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UPDATE: Boehner Cancels Vote! Not Enough Support — House Passes First Measure of ‘Plan B’ Tax Bill

Dec. 20, 2012 7:04pm Becket Adams

The House just passed the “Spending Reduction Act of 2012” bill, by a vote of 215 to 209:

The House passed H.R. 6684, the Spending Reduction Act of 2012, in a 215-209-1 vote. twitter.com/GOPLeader/stat…

— Eric Cantor (@GOPLeader) December 20, 2012

“The first of two measures related to Speaker John Boehner’s ‘Plan B’ tax proposal, HR 6684 would put off the sequestration, or automatic spending cuts, for one year, replacing it with other spending cuts,” C-SPAN explains.

“The House will then proceed with a series of roll call votes before taking up H J Res 66, Permanent Tax Relief for Families and Small Business Act. This measure would permanently extend the Bush-era tax rates for everyone on the first $1 million of earned income. Those earning more than $1 million would pay a higher tax rate,” the report adds.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has assured members of the press that her Democrat colleagues won’t support Speaker Boehner’s “Plan B” proposal and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has said that the Senate will not hear the proposal even if it passes the House.

President Obama has vowed to veto “Plan B.”

UPDATE(S):

It appears Speaker Boehner’s backup tax bill has run into a bit of trouble:

The House is now in an unscheduled recess, prompting the Q, does Boehner have the votes for Plan B? Yowsa. #fiscalcliff

— Luke Russert (@LukeRussert) December 21, 2012

If Boehner can’t even get Plan B out of House, playing right into @presssec hands about going down “alley with no exit”

— Ed Henry (@edhenryTV) December 21, 2012

Boehner calls special conference meeting at 7:45

— Daniel Newhauser (@dnewhauser) December 21, 2012

Clearly this is a signal that they don’t have the votes. It doesn’t mean they won’t get them, but clearly there is trouble for Plan B

— Susan Ferrechio (@susanferrechio) December 21, 2012

There are reports that Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) has been seen trying to rally his former House colleagues to support “Plan B.” However, based on other reports surrounding the impending vote, it doesn’t seem to be working:

Asked whether Republicans will can Plan B passed tonight, Rep Kay Granger, R-Texas, shook her head.

— Jonathan Weisman (@jonathanweisman) December 21, 2012

What do you suppose is going on in that Republican meeting?

Hearing booing inside this emergency house gop meeting re scramble for votes on plan b.

— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) December 21, 2012

Wow. Per Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.), there will be no vote tonight on the tax increase portion of “Plan B”:

Cantor says no vote tonight. #fiscalcliff

— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) December 21, 2012

The reason for postponing the vote? It’s what many has already suspected: Speaker Boehner doesn’t have the votes to pass it:

Boehner: “The House did not take up the tax measure today because it did not have sufficient support from our members to pass”

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) December 21, 2012

And then there’s this:

House is adjourning for the week, per Cantor’s office. Will return ‘when needed’ after Christmas holiday

— Felicia Sonmez (@feliciasonmez) December 21, 2012

Final Thought:

if Boehner can’t get Plan B passed, there are no votes for an Obama/Boehner deal either. We are going over the cliff.

— Conn Carroll (@conncarroll) December 21, 2012

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Comments (190)

Braintree64
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:47pm
STOP THE SPENDING.
STOP THE FRAUD.
STOP THE STEALING.
STOP THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BULLYING.

My 10 year old – and yours owes 52,000 dollars in debt. (That’s an Audi FOR MY 10 year old.)

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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:00pm
  the ‘chains’ of ‘debt’ just imagine when we are gone
  
  their ‘world’ we have left them – breaks my ‘heart’
  
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- KissMyAmericanFlag
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:05pm
  Congress makes the laws; Senate passes the laws; president — or current occupant — Accepts and Abides by the laws, as well as the US Constitution, or is impeached. Pure and Simple; bhusseino, pack yer _#___ bags and GoooWH!
  
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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:30pm
  Obama’s biggest contribution to the fiscal cliff deal was to put out a twitter hashtag #My2K. Such great leadership, remember:
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/my2k-twitter-hashtag-fiscal-cliff-leadership-from-president-obama/
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:38pm
  Braintree64, nice post, but what do you want to cut spending on? The military, social security, Medicare? Speak your mind! Tell us your plan.
  
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- jorge_washington
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:53pm
  “My 10 year old – and yours owes 52,000 dollars in debt. (That’s an Audi FOR MY 10 year old.)”
  
  Apparently that didn’t bother you or other republicans when Bush was handling out those tax cuts that caused the US to run deficits for 6-7 years or those 2 unpaid wars.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:05am
  Best thing that could POSSIBLY happen at this point —- GO OVER THE CLIFF.
  Give them EVERYTHING. The whole thing NEEDS to CRATER.
  That is the only way to fix things now.
  
  When the whole thing collapses then Nature takes over.
  Thats a good thing.
  I trust the laws of nature. That is God’s law.
  
  Under nature’s law — the self-sufficient survive & thrive, faith, charity and good-will
  from community members helps those who genuinely need assistance and the
  lazy moochers go bye-bye.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:20am
  Remember how the history books said people believed the world was flat, when Christopher Columbus sailed off to the new world, they thought he’d fall off the side? That was supposed to be like a “physical cliff” if he sailed on, he’d fall off and perish. The Queen bankrolled his experiment, and the “Brave New World” (my childhood American History Book’s name) was discovered.
  Now fast forward to 2013, b o and all the politicals are shouting “fiscal cliff” do something quick! Everything they’d do runs breakneck toward it. Let’s step back and contemplate. If we can’t slow them down, and we can’t stop them, LET’S GET OFF THE STAGECOACH AND LET THEM GO OVER BY THEMSELVES!!! Whatever they do will make matters worse, so why not step back and use a zoom lens to watch the show. THERE SHOULD BE A PRETTY GOOD FISTFIGHT ALL THE WAY DOWN!!! If there are any survivors we can throw them a rope and see if they want to climb back up with us. IF NOT, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR LITTLE COMMUNIST UTOPIA AT THE BOTTOM AS LONG AS THEY DON’T DESTROY IT AND THEMSELVES, the rest of us should roll up our sleeves and attempt to restore our beloved America.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:30am
  @jorge_washington
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:53pm
  
  “My 10 year old – and yours owes 52,000 dollars in debt. (That’s an Audi FOR MY 10 year old.)”
  
  Apparently that didn’t bother you or other republicans when Bush was handling out those tax cuts that caused the US to run deficits for 6-7 years or those 2 unpaid wars.
  ***
  Step away from the Kool Aide and let’s think for a minute. When the Japanese Yen crashed, do you remember president william jefferson clinton bailing them out. Do a google search of the Japenese bailout, he made one of the conditions to be that they “cut taxes” to spur the economy. Go back a little farther. John F. Kennedy was encountering a bad economy. He cut taxes to spur the economy!
  If you weren’t alive during the jimmy carter fiasco, consider yourself either lucky to have missed a trainwreck economy, or unlucky you missed the education. Prices went up several times a day and gas was rationed, Reagan came in and cut taxes, instantly the economy turned around. Bush had the “World Trade Center” bombing. (to destroy the economy of the world) He achieved the tax cuts, and things took off for the better until the Pelosi Congress destroyed it. Last time the tax cuts were to expire. b o said “You don’t raise taxes in a bad economy.” Wow! He was right!
  
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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:33am
  Just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the destruction of this country. Obama has implemented the Cloward Piven strategy of using the weight of the poor to collapse the economy. And he is making more poor so their weight is greater.
  
  The agenda is to indoctrinate creating a people so dumbed down they not only want cradle to grave government care but they can’t exist without it – can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state. Mindless little, robot zombies spouting the leftist line and not even understanding how they are being used being trained by cadres of intellectuals who want to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it:
  
  do you know who Fabians (with logo of wolf in sheep’s clothing), Frankfurt School, Antonio Gramsci, Mattechine Society, Alinksi (who dedicated his book “Rules for Radicals to Lucifer), which Obama taught in Chicago, Committees of Correspondence are? Connect all the dots
  All part of the Agenda to create an America so corrupt it stinks and to drive this culture in a direction designed to destroy it. If you don’t know all this you need to find out!
  This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. Watch it. Share it.
  It is free on line for the moment
  https://vimeo.com/52009124
  if that is not working try this: https://vimeo.com/16647512
  
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- sbenard
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:21am
  S&P 500 stock futures went limit down following this news. This is the first time in my futures career that this has occurred. It is a BIG deal! That means that the futures dropped by the maximum allowed for a single day. It’s about 500 points on the Dow. Then, stocks bounced back about 300 points, but are still trading down about 200 points as I type this.
  With both the House and the Senate in recess until after Christmas, it could be a bloody few days in the financial markets.
  But this increases the likelihood by a magnitude of many-fold of a plunge into the economic abyss. If Boehner can’t muster enough votes from conservatives to pass his “Plan B”, which Harry “The Tare” Reid has refused to bring before the Senate, and Obama has vowed to veto anyway, the likelihood of a last-minute deal is fading very fast.
  Prepare for the cliff, because it has suddenly become THE most likely scenario!
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:50am
  Hey Bodybag,
  
  I think you’ve hit the nail on the head.
  
  Waking up every AM to death by a thousand paper cuts is getting to be real old, real fast. Just let the whole s.o.b. wind down and let the chips fall where they should for a nation that spends more than it makes.
  
  I just hope that the first to starve will be the incompetents like Boehner and Cantor who aren’t smart enough to stick to their Republican roots and have been become Republicrats! Boehner says tax the rich. I say the hell with Boehner!
  
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- girlnurse
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:45am
  The way I look at it. My kids don’t owe anything. Its the stupid brain dead politicians and fools up on Capital Hill that can’t stop spending that owe it! Where does anybody get off blaming this mess on our kids?! And for the one who asked “where you gonna cut”? The list would be so long it wouldn’t fit on this post and it would NOT be Medicare OR Social security. It would be foreign aid, Government workers, Stupid pet projects like soccer fields at guantanamo, ummm did I say government workers? Dumb non-wars that we never win>>>I could slash the government and bring back our private sector jobs…cut Obamacare, Flat tax plan, the list is endless…The answer is—They know exactly what theyre doing–they seriously couldn’t be that stupid…they are trying to wreck the economy obviously!….well Im ready for the NWO to begin so we can all tell them where to shove it….I dont like the papercuts either…lets make this thing a huge gaping wound so we can start the surgery!
  
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- dukielouie
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:28am
  Next election conservative little r republican,tea,912,constitution,and liberty parties take the RINO’S out!! Obama is doing the Cloward/Piven.Oh that’s right Beck educated us and we can’t mention his name on Fox and frauds!! Reilly and his freinds on the five are left behind.Rove is back and the next election has been bought.
  
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- MittensKittens
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:54am
  This country is doomed…We are witnessing the collapse o the USA…what a great time to be alive in History. If you can’t make lemonade out of these lemons, well then we all F(_)cked!
  
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- JimmyP
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:50am
  Couldn’t you have him buy a Lincoln or a Cadillac or a Chrysler, perhaps?
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:10am
  Here is my summary-My kid doesn’t owe anybody jack crap, cut EVERYTHING including SS and Medicare, quit spending 40% of all Medicare on the last 6 months of life, quit giving people money for sitting on their ass, and as BodyBag said, let it collapse and then we rebuild.
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:11am
  we have to look to ourselves to solve the debt mess, we all want what we have contributed to for all these years,so what to do renig on the promises to ss receiptents or those who worked for the federal gov and military, it is no easy answer to these problems, maybe we will bite the bullet and take our medicine but i don’t think that will happen, i worked for 36 years on my knees laying carpet and now it is almost impossible to do that any longer, however i won’t or can’t go on disability but i sure could use my ss as soon as possible
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:13am
  SendTheMeteors
  Braintree64, nice post, but what do you want to cut spending on? The military, social security, Medicare? Speak your mind! Tell us your plan
  ***
  First off Meteors have you have seen the budget for the military at least down to the various programs?
  Second I have sen the military cut. There use to be 12 active carriers. Now there are 10, a 16% cut. Reserves cut by 1/2 over a decade.
  
  When Carter & Clinton were elected you see the same trends in military spending. First, it is ramped down & then it is ramped up. it makes a nice valley in the graph. where does the difference go? Toward the debt? No, to buy more votes.
  
  The absolute 1st place to cut is the presumption of growth in the budget. Any growth above the inflation rate or predicted inflation rate should not happen unless there is a cause.
  
  So dear instead of assuming a 8% or 10%, we should have a 0% to 3% increase depending on inflation. that alone over a decade would eliminate the deficit if not the debt.
  
  Braintree64 may answer, but consider yourself in check.
  
  There are more solutions of course. but you dare not think of them. One would be raise the retirement age a year or 6 months. People are living longer. If not why don’t you propose lowering the retirement age. you know you want to do it. You want to give out goodies so that you may grip the reigns of power.
  
  Just a question. You bragged about your sterling education from a top shelf university. Do you know what t
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:16am
  We could start will DEA,ATF.CIA,HLA,TSA,FCC,PBS,EPA,FORIEGN AID,CLOSE BASES AROUND THE WORLD,BRING BACK TARIFFS,END NAFTA,DOE,DOE,IRS,AND ANY OTHER USELESS TAX SUCKING LEECHINGH AGENCIES. We should also end the federal reserve charting us 875,000,000 a day in terest on money they don’t have in the first place might even want to consider arrest warrants for those crooks maybe wanted dead or alive posters.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:21am
  Jorge,
  
  The wars were unpaid, because the Democrats held the line on budget cuts elsewhere.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:23am
  MIL MOM ,
  The Bush Tax cuts allowed taxes payers in all brackets to 89,000,000,000 a year Obama deficits are 1,600,000,000,000 basicly Bush taxes cuts across the board would only fund 5% of Obama deficits.
  In Bushs worst year he had a 650,000,000,000 deficit about 1/3 of Obama 1,600,000,000,000 in other words Obama deficit is a trillion worst than Bushs.
  Only a braindead idiot would defend Obama by attacking Bushs spending.
  
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- Talmid of Yeshua
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:29am
  Jorge Washington…. I like how you commies always talk about unpaid wars…. what about the unpaid welfare programs for the lazy? Check out the CBO website. We spend way more money on welfare and entitlement programs than we do the military… I know, don’t left facts deter your talking points.
  
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- ChiefGeorge
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:10am
  Or a classic 70 Chevelle SS.
  
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- georgette
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:27am
  it appears we have an administration and appointees who say…we won…all we have to do is stand here ….enjoy the prestige and benefits ….. .
  
  we have a congress, from all appearances, who says “if our job was easy we might do it……but frankly, we’d rather play the game…. talk to lobbyists, talk about bacon and elections…….it’s more fun.”
  
  A Nation suffering from debt is one thing….embarrassment is another….
  
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- Lotus503
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:43am
  Contact your Republican Congressmen in your state and insist that they abstain from voting for John Boehner. It only takes 16 abstentions to force an election for Speaker of the House.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:25am
  Lotus503
  
  I want a vote on Plan B. The Senate will not take it up. It is on recess.
  
  When Harry Reid slinks back to Washington, he wioll vote it down.
  
  Plant B puts ther Ball in the Democrat Court where it needs to be.
  
  The Low Iinformation Voter (LIV)has no ideal about dynamic scoring of tax increases or cuts. Economics is applied psychology. The best liberal can argue is that response to tax cuts/increases is INELASTIC because people are hostage. LIV cannot understand dynamic scoring, laffer curve or baseline busdgeting.
  
  By understand I mean they do not have the education or if they do they refuse to use it.
  If you make a person an Epsilon & work them hard enough, the at the end of the day they only want to veg because they are fatigued. So they do not have the energy to investigate the foibles of the ruling class’s economic debacles.
  
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- jhrusky
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:56pm
  @ mil-dot
  
  ” … cut EVERYTHING including SS and Medicare, quit spending 40% of all Medicare on the last 6 months of life, quit giving people money for sitting on their ass, and as BodyBag said, let it collapse and then we rebuild.”
  
  I believe there are a couple problems with your statement;
  1. We should not cut SS and Medicare. Many people rely upon these programs today and have contributed to them a good share of their lives. Cutting them would greatly harm these people and would not at all be fair to them. I certainly do not want to live in a country where we just let the elderly fend for themselves — that is not civilized at all. Now, if you want to begin changing these programs for the younger I am in agreement with that, but we can’t just cut what some people barely can eat from now.
  
  2. You can’t tell people that they’re too old so we cannot spend medicare dollars on them. That sounds like Obamacare’s end-of-life plan. We should take care of our elderly citizens just as we should take care of our children and our unborn.
  
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ree758
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:46pm
Obama doesn’t even have a budget how can you raise taxes if you don’t know whgat spending will be

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- countryfirst
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:17am
  Dead ON, Barry couldn’t get one Democrat to vote for his and Harry never produced one. If you don’t have one you can’t be held accountable to it. But then again this administration is not for anything.
  
  All those in Washington know what is coming and are protecting themselves as best as possible. Also you really think any new gun regulation will affect them, they will just exempt themselves like so many other laws they know are not good for the well being of the nation.
  
  There is a saying that sheep will allow you to shear them, but fight when you want to butcher them. When will the sheeple start to fight? Oh that’s right when their checks bounce.
  
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Paulhgreenbay
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:42pm
Repugs in the house screwed the Republican brand. They should have sent this up knowing it would be vetoed. Call it! Go riddance repugs, Obama will get to place the blame on you while raising taxes on everyone that pays taxes. O will convince the sheep to rid congress of you in 2014.

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- ree758
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:53pm
  Sorros and his world wide voter fraud team will take care of those republicans
  
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- ATSGal
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:08pm
  You are most likely wrong concerning 2014 since Ocare and the disaster that it will be will have been fully implemented. Obama wants 1.6 trillion in tax increases and that is over and above what Ocare will do. Small businesses will not be able to withstand all that. When Pelosi said that we must pass healthcare to see what is in it she wasn’t joking and what we have learned so far is MASSIVE taxation.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:41am
  @ATSGal
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:08pm
  
  You are most likely wrong concerning 2014 since Ocare and the disaster that it will be will have been fully implemented. Obama wants 1.6 trillion in tax increases and that is over and above what Ocare will do. Small businesses will not be able to withstand all that. When Pelosi said that we must pass healthcare to see what is in it she wasn’t joking and what we have learned so far is MASSIVE taxation
  ****
  And denial of healthcare services to whoever they want via their board, and bureacracy. Remember the GM auto dealers. If they’d voted or registered repub they were closed, dem they got the dealership! Why should healthcare be treated differently? That way they’re guaranteed to win relections for eternity.
  
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Astalavistababy
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:36pm
Boehner should seize the moment and tell the American people who voted for big government and entitlements that they have to pay for it. You have a choice: Low taxes or Big Government programs. You can’t have both. He needs to cut up the credit card and say enough. Let the tax cuts expire. Let the middle class scream. Boehner needs to put ear plugs in and say no tax cuts until we have spending cuts now and entitlement reform now. Don’t raise the debt ceiling either. Let it default if that is what it takes to force Obama to negotiate. Do nothing until Obama agrees to real spending cuts now and entitlement reforms now. It’s his presidency and his legacy. He will be remembered as a failed president if he does nothing. No one will remember who the speaker of the house is years from now.

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- oldguy49
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:46pm
  2 words come to mind over and over again……….TERM LIMITS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:12pm
  Every member of the house knew this was political theater. As well as any American who follows the news. This bill would never have passed in the Senate and never would gotten the President’s signature. This was an attempt by Boehner to throw the ball into the Democrats court. But he couldn’t get the Tea Party votes.
  
  Boehner can’t whip the votes to pass anything even remotely close to what Democrats will agree to. The House is dysfunctional. The Speaker simply will never be able to get a consensus among members with any bill that doesn’t lower taxes for the rich, cut funding for the poorest among us, and increase military spending. Thanks to the extremists Tea Party element, who feel their job is to block every and anything that President Obama might support, there is no chance avoiding the fiscal cliff. The Founder’s are rolling in their graves seeing that a relatively small group of people have made our government impotent, unable to compromise and unable to function (despite the fact that Obama is an absolute dictator).
  
  I feel sorry for Boehner actually. I think he’d like to be seen in history as someone who helped hammer out an agreement. But he won’t.
  
  SendTheMeteors says that no agreement will be made before the end of the year. And you know her prediction are always right, more than GB’s anyway.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:37pm
  What are you talking about? Our founders designed the gov. this way. The whole problem is we’re under represented in Congress. If Congress’ pop. had kept up w/ the general pop. growth, there’d be at least a couple thousand members today. They wouldn’t EVER get anything passed.
  Don’t feel sorry for Boehner. He screwed the Rep’s in Aug. 2011 w/ that terrible, terrible deal. Now, he’s getting his reward. I hope he cries til New Year’s Day.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:19pm
  I stand corrected. The pop. of Congress should be over 5000 members now, had it kept up with pop. growth. The most odd thing I found is that it has been frozen at 435 since 1913. If it had just kept up since then, it’d be around 1500. 1913 was also the year of the first income tax and the Jekyl Island monster. Our country hasn’t been what the founders intended for at least 100 years. All we have are a handful of Tea Party members to stand for us.
  Don’t back down!
  
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vic138
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:34pm
Stock futures dropped 3.5% on this news. Up now so only down 1%. Gold and silver are crashing too, which is weird (you think bad for the dollar would be good for precious metals). Kinda of a flash crash.

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- drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:40pm
  Year end selling due to lower tax rate. Also, no deal is deflationary to the economy. Look for the the tax man, Bernanke to pull more dirty tricks from his bag.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:52am
  @vic138
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:34pm
  
  Stock futures dropped 3.5% on this news. Up now so only down 1%. Gold and silver are crashing too, which is weird (you think bad for the dollar would be good for precious metals). Kinda of a flash crash
  ****
  The markets have become a “Crap Game” for the casino mob who’re running the country. Get out of them and put your money on things with intrinsic value, farmland actual product production, (if you have enough) ways to help the little guy with the big idea to invent something made in America, and of course, on helping your neighbor. When their casino goes under, you’ll have something of true value to barter with, and a reputation of being someone people can trust. That’s the future.
  
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BehindBlueEyes
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:22pm
Useless reckless “servants” of the people. If the world doesn’t end tomorrow we are in for something worse on the horizon.

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Dkoonz
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:22pm
Ready for the fall over the edge? Might as well do it now and get it over with.

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Keatonc33
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:08pm
Of course this didn’t pass. heres what is going to happen. Obama will propose his final offer around december 29th or 30th. i think he’s about done compromising. hes already caved some to Boehner, and then it will be up to congress to either pass it or send us over the cliff. and why shouldn’t it be that way? Obama, house and senate democrats won the election. the people spoke for what they want to see done. plus Obama’s approval rating is 57% right now. where as the house GOP and Boehner’s approval rating is hovering somewhere around 16%. It isn’t hard to see. If we go over the fiscal cliff that the republicans in the house created 2 years ago. it will be viewed as their fault. simple as that.
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:44pm
  in REALITY no one WON anything ,,, look around
  
  when people get HUNGRY we all will discover what “The Games” have cost ‘us’
  
  those that have precious metals may be burrowed in some hole in the ground
  
  thinking that they are secure but there is NO e s c a p e from what is to come,,,
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:54pm
  Keaton
  Don’t take this personal, it is more of an observation than anything, but you are a moron.
  
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- sbenard
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:38am
  I’m just curious. Is ignorance really bliss, Keaton?
  Perhaps you forgot that the Republicans in the House are also elected representatives. They were elected to “just say NO” to the Dictator of Debt, His Unholy Unctuousness.
  As of Nov. 30th, the US government is borrowing 46 cents of every dollar of spending for this fiscal year. Obama’s proposed tax increase on the rich would cover only about 1/20th of that — about another 5 cents. Who do you think will have to pay the rest of it? It would literally take a doubling of the income tax on EVERY American, rich and poor alike, to pay the difference.
  Obama’s own budget figures show that by the end of this decade, we will be paying $1 trillion/year in interest on the debt — about HALF of all income tax revenue. What do you think will happen to entitlements when HALF the tax revenue pays just interest?
  When we hit the debt brick wall in the next few years, we will experience a depression the likes of which no one in our era has ever known. When that happens, all entitlements will come to a sudden and swift end. We’ll see if your ignorance helps you then. Best to prepare to become self-reliant NOW, because calamity is certainty! Good luck!
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:53am
  give obama everything he wants but make it well known that it will be on him when the economy tanks into oblivion
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:18pm
  just wait and see! and how does this make me a moron exactly?
  
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karen162
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:07pm
Both these clowns are on the same page, but giving us a dog and pony show. They are freakin’ playing games and the American people are going to pay the price. No worries, it doesn’t matter what these Bozo’s do. The Fiscal Cliff is a done deal, thanks to all the increases/tax hikes, etc in the Affordable Health Care Act, the Consumer protection Act and a bunch of other bills they’ve passed. They are just scrambling to point the finger of blame at each other to confuse you.

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perry1980
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:03pm
Talk about Not reaching acoss the Isle. The Dems have never voted for one Republican bill. period

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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:11pm
  and the republicans have voted down several bills aimed solely at helping afghan and Iraq veterans find jobs because it was sponsored by Obama! You are out of your mind of you think the democrats are the only ones being obstructive! The house GOP has filibustered obama more than any other house in history! and by a pretty healthy margin.
- jorge_washington
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:58pm
  “Talk about Not reaching acoss the Isle. The Dems have never voted for one Republican bill. Period”
  
  With bills like this Plan B that allows people earning between 200k and 1 million dollars (most of the wealthy) to keep the Bush tax cuts in addition to receiving an additional $250.00 tax cut. While those earning over a million will pay an additional 72k dollars in taxes though they will be able to get around most of that.
  
  Meanwhile those people earning between 10k-20k (the poor) will have to pay taxes $290.00 as well as the middle class. In addition, the republicans cut food stamps, meals on wheels, gut Wall street reform act and Obamacare.
  
  What’s not to love, if you’re wealthy, neo-Christian that believes Jesus praised the rich and condemned the poor.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:02am
  @jorge_washington
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:58pm
  
  “Talk about Not reaching acoss the Isle. The Dems have never voted for one Republican bill. Period”
  
  With bills like this Plan B that allows people earning between 200k and 1 million dollars (most of the wealthy) to keep the Bush tax cuts in addition to receiving an additional $250.00 tax cut. While those earning over a million will pay an additional 72k dollars in taxes though they will be able to get around most of that.
  
  Meanwhile those people earning between 10k-20k (the poor) will have to pay taxes $290.00 as well as the middle class. In addition, the republicans cut food stamps, meals on wheels, gut Wall street reform act and Obamacare.
  
  What’s not to love, if you’re wealthy, neo-Christian that believes Jesus praised the rich and condemned the poor
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  What better thing to do for the poor, than give him/her an opportunity to actually earn things, and understand what the true economy is. (Not the fake one they’ve created.) On Food Stamps, etc. you jump constantly through govt. hoops, Earn your own money and let them get another trained dog and pony! Jesus said”The poor ye have always with you.” Not as a put down, but there will always be someone at the lower end of the scale, you can’t lift them up, but you can put a ladder down for them to climb individually, if they don’t destroy it, many, many can make it up. That’s how America got her “Middle Class”!
  
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Chrison
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:41pm
ALL of the politicians from BOTH parties are going to play political games until the US economy totally collapses! It’s neither the Republican’s nor Democrat’s fault… it’s ALL of their fault! All politicians are addicted to spending because that’s what supposedly gets them votes. They’ll NOT quit spending until the money totally runs out!

The so-called “fiscal cliff” the US is about to go over on Jan 1/13 is a mere “curb” compared to the REAL fiscal cliff the US will go over when the bond market loses faith in US Government security (which is already happening) and interest rates go through the roof (coming soon!), and the Fed has printed so much “funny money” that the US dollar is worthless. Then, the Government can tax the rich all they want and it won’t pay for a day’s worth of spending, let alone a week.

Get ready, folks… it’s going to get REALLY bad and it isn’t going to be too long from now!

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- truthnstuff
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:54pm
  It’s not both parties fault. The Dumbocraps refuse to do anything except raise taxes AND spending. They refuse every attempt to compromise because the taxes and spending are not high enough.The Republican leadership can be accused of stupidity for not putting out a bill that is good for the country and letting 0bama refuse it. The Republicans want to fix the economy but Boehner is too stupid and incompetent.
  
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- Coded-Dude
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:10pm
  It is both their faults…the GOP hasn’t put forth a budget that makes serious cuts either. They both want to spend in their own way(one just wants to do it with more taxes).
  
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- IamWhatIam
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:24pm
  It is both paries fault. But we voted for them! We vote in the same (or same type) of politicians over and over and over. Do we expect something different to happen? Do we expect Democrats or Republicans to “give” us any better choices to vote for? The parties choose who we can vote for and then because we voted Democrat or Republican we think we made the choice!! We need to end the Democrat and Republican control and manipulation of us. We need new parties or independants. Or maybe Libertarians!!!
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:46pm
  The money has already run out. 3/4th’s of last year’s budget deficit(around 1 Trillion) was printed up out of thin air by Ben Bernanke. This money was conjured up up out of the FED’s computer. Counterfeited!
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:06am
  @drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:46pm
  
  The money has already run out. 3/4th’s of last year’s budget deficit(around 1 Trillion) was printed up out of thin air by Ben Bernanke. This money was conjured up up out of the FED’s computer. Counterfeited!
  ***’
  Amen! Did we expect less, voting in the Chicago Mob to run the country???
  
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Harold B
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:40pm
Taxing the rich is an excellent idea. That tax burdin should result in even less jobs. Obama just wants to go down in History as the African who defeated America and made it into a third world African nation

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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:14pm
  the 4.6% tax increase is very hyped! It really wont do much if any damage to job creation. But let me ask you a quick question! how does cutting welfare and similar entitlement programs motivate poor people to be more productive, but raising taxes on the rich does the opposite? i’ve never understood that one.
  
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- DetroitGunClinger
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:36pm
  KeatonC33,
  
  Cutting welfare motivates people to get jobs because not starving to death is a surprisingly strong motivator.
  
  The tax cuts will hurt job creation because as much as you don’t like it, CEOs aren’t just going to cut their salaries when taxes go up and the lost revenue has to impact someone, and that will be the workers. Additionally, higher taxes result in higher prices for goods which causes consumers to spend less which leads to reduced revenue. Reduced revenue leads to reduced hiring/workforce reductions.
  
  Anymore questions?
  
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- thesiren
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:54pm
  The super rich always threaten to take away jobs when any new regulations on companies are placed, but it’s always just a bluff. Corporations threw a huge fit when the 40 week work hour policy was put into place and claimed that they would have to fire people/that there wouldn’t be any jobs/etc. It didn’t happen. It never happens.
  
  Taxing the rich a bit more won’t ruin the job market. Corporations won’t go out of business. This is just a case of the super rich being super greedy.
  
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brtmchl30
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:25pm
It’s just stupid to me that people believe taxing the rich accomplishes anything. 1st off there is no such thing as only taxing the rich. Any tax is a middle class tax hike, you can sugar coat it all you want, but honestly when you tax the rich or in other words ( employers ) they make cuts and people lose their jobs. 2nd when you tax the rich they raise the prices on their goods to offset the increase and the common folk pay more for the same items. Tax hikes cost US. not Them. People are fools, they are demanding the rich to pay their fair share when in reality we are paying higher costs on goods and services, while they still make their money. Papa John’s pizza guy said it best. He loses employees and the cost of pizza goes up, He still makes the same living.

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:31pm
  Why can’t Bohner say what the papa john guy said in a national press conference? Try to jiggle some low information voters synapsis.
  
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Beachmastermax
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:22pm
Well…that is that….it’s off the cliff we go!!!!

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mtsnj
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:08pm
Both sides blame each other..One wants to keep the party going..oh and so does the other..as an outsider looking in, both are the problem, both have caused this country to tail spin. Facts are you can’t tax people enough to pay off their spending. Fact 2 The people making the Millions are the ones employiong all the rest. Overtax one you will have less of the other. The community organizer has polarized our nation back 60 years..

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- motherboard
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:33pm
  That is a fact, pretty much everything you said…
  
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Stelex
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:08pm
Until “We the People” realize that we give them the power…….willingly……we will never escape. The only way to attack this problem is to stop paying taxes. As many people as possible…..max exemptions and stop paying taxes. Just stop…….now. Everyone. Good god people…..its your money. Stop giving it away and wake up. If we stopped for one week we would get noticed. I don’t mind paying reasonable taxes but we are way, way past reasonable. Our tax code is an abonination or BS. STOP PAYING TAXES……they can’t grab us all. We have to come together and attack this now.

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- kenboo1
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:46pm
  Business needs to run at Break even or slight loss and not pay any tax. Or better yet, go on strike and lay all employees off… That might be the only way to get the politicians attention…
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:55pm
  thoughts on how the employers and employees can come up
  
  with an IDEA or so that would help BOTH and STOP the INSANITY
  
  something that could SIDETRACK obamacare diaster ?
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:57pm
  where are ALL the LAWYERS when “We the People” need them ,,,,
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:14pm
  “We the People” NEED A KILL SWITCH too,,,
  
  WE WILL NOT BE IGNORED – WE ARE TIRED OF BEING USED!
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:31pm
  all people no matter the “Party” have been manipulated
  
  tired of blaming one party over another there is only ONE planet
  
  and we ALL had better PULL IT TOGETHER because there is NO PLACE to run,,,
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:37pm
  Yeah, why you go ahead and do that, I’m sure you have a huge audience here on the Blaze and they’ll all follow along with your lead.
  
  hahahahahahaha
  
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- cbrown
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:37pm
  Time for new leadership in Republican party otherwise we will permanently loose elections. Boehner is the worst Republican speaker, he should not be re-elected. A strong Republican party is good for our country.
  
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Xiccarph
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:49pm
Wait until the low to middle income taxpayers feel that 50% increase in their tax bill. Oh, and also the 2+% employment tax increase too. And I do mean “low income taxPAYERS”, not low income welfare/tax credit recipients whom never pay a dime in taxes, but reap an equivalent income to many middle income workers.

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- gyro
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:28pm
  well said
  
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Sickandtiredofextremists
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:38pm
I’ve written and admonished Speaker Beohner on more than one occasion concerning this “so-called” fiscal cliff crap. So I have to admit I’m pleased he finally gathered up the balls to tell Osamabama to “take this and eat it”. But in all truth, if good “ol Harry is just going to refuse to hear it in the Senate, then that’s it. Our “fine example” of a Democratic President will just prove, once again, that he’s a Marxist…………….not that any of his constituents are informed enough to understand what that is, or even care, as long as he keeps giving them their “entitlements”. (pardon me while I go to the back of the room and puke!)

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:46pm
  You sound like an extremist.
  
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- thesiren
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:58pm
  If your username is true, you must be really sick and tired of yourself.
  
  Obama isn’t a Marxist. He’s not even close. YOU, my friend, are the one who doesn’t know what a Marxist is. I also love how fault Obama for the bill’s failure when it hasn’t even left the House yet. Yes, it’s totally Obama’s fault that people don’t want to vote for the bill….somehow. It has nothing to do with the bill being a pile of ****.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:54pm
  Harry Reid is the Gate-Keeper. Barack, the Magic N*gro has nothing to do w/ any of it. The Tea Party is right. I just wish we had more of them in Congress last year when Boehner sold us out to Reid.
  
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- jens63
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:09am
  I don’ care how many times Harry says it won’t come to the floor and potus says he won’t sign something, the house still have to pass it to get it on the record. Just because it is said they won’t vote, they won’t sign won’t go down in history, make it official.
  
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ltdan
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:33pm
The best thing that can happen is we go off the proverbial cliff. Yes the republicans will get blamed for it in the short term, but then again the the republicans are going to be demonized by the MSM no matter what they do. If we do go off the fiscal cliff Obama will have to own it. Too many people don’t even know what’s going on in Washington, they vote with their pocketbooks and by then they will blame Obama. The POTUS always owns the economy, not the House, not the Senate or Wall Street but POTUS himself.

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brtmchl30
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:28pm
so the senate hasn’t had a budget for 4 years. The dems had the majority in the House until 2010, still control the Senate and the WH And this is the Republicans fault? They seem to be the only ones putting forth anything all the time. Harry Reid vows to not hear it in the Senate as he does everytime and yet we are to believe it is the Repubs who are the obstuctionists. Congress and this President are a pathetic joke, keep promising morons money; obviously this is the only way you can keep your jobs at least until the media actually start reporting news and stop carrying the water for the liberals by trying to vilify the slightly less incompetant Rinos.

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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:23pm
  The Media,,, have SOLD their SOULS for ‘time and eternity’
  
  when they do awaken out of whatever MINDSET it will be too late
  
  the damage they have done to everything that this country once stood for,,,
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:27pm
That’s right candyasses raise the rates on the first million,it won’t do anything to reduce spending but it’ll appease Barrys simpleton worthless base.To all the obamazombies out there,when the government raises tax rates they’re spending more of our money not less. I hate to state the obvious but considering the demographic it’s necessary. Okay continue what you were doing………..nothing.

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- Stelex
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:14pm
  Slayer, the only way we get our way is to start a tax movement. Just stop paying in. Do it now, do it en mass. It wouldn’t take long for gov to realize we are serious. Just save the back taxes if your worried. But withhold it from the gov. If we can’t do that much. We ain’t doing anything.
  
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- Steelhead
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:23pm
  stelexa=you sound like a deadbeat just like progressive slave, you poor victims
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:08pm
  Let me try again Blaze, obviously you are verbally sensitive. Mr. Steelhead, I work hard every day, I pay what I believe is more than twice what I should in taxes. I have never received a thing from gov and hope I never do. You little people whom rely on gov will in fact get what you deserve soon. Since you like the state taking care of you, you will do exactly what the state wants. Did I satisfy the Blazes dictatorial verbal protacol this time. Steelhead……..nice fish. Tasty.
  
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- revelation2012
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:09pm
  there should be an AUDIT before ANYTHING else is done
  
  freeze everything TILL each dept. can show HOW they have spent
  
  TAKE TAKE TAKE – ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:16pm
  how exactly does creating more revenue through higher taxes lose us money?
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 10:31pm
  Keaton When government extracts money from the private sector it doesn’t pay down the debt it simply spends more of our money and expands the size of the programs.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:31am
  Keatonc33
  
  1. Economics is applied psychology.
  
  2. When taxes go up people shift their activities.
  
  3. Study the laffer curve
  
  4. Mind you that you will have to study 1 or 2 semesters of calculus 1st & then a semester of macro economics. Keaton can you hit the books for 3 straight semester? If you just studied that it would be a 1/3rd academic load. Can you do that good buddy?
  
  5. The laffer curve can be used as an argument to increase or decrease taxes. Did you see that Keats? You can use it as an argument to INCREASE taxes, also.
  
  P.S. Did you see where many people especially Obma donors are shifting income to this year to pay lower taxes? When taxes take effect next year under higher rates they will not bring in less revenue than projected. Insteasd of 80 billion they will get 70 billion.
  
  “No sweat” says Keats “We still got 70 billion more than last year”
  
  Except under a higher tax rate the GDP grows slower. Which means you have a larger slice of a ever smaller pie.
  Instead of growing 3% the GDP grows at 1%. Compound that a few years.
  
  Keats Argentina had an economy the size of Canada’s in the 1930s or 1940s. they went socialist.
  
  Argentina’s economy is nowhere near Canada’s economy now.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:43am
  Keaton are you going to answer back?
  
  Or are you a seagull? Cr/p & fly off.
  
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:26pm
This is the plan all along show Congress as dysfunctional needing reform and install the dictatorship.

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- Keatonc33
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 9:18pm
  Congress is dysfunctional! look up why Americas credit rating was dropped….. give you a hint, Dysfunctional Congress!
  
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- SCREW-WINDOWS
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 11:55pm
  Who makes it dysfunctional “Clue” Harry Reid.
  
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:22pm
I am not crazy about allowing $.01 more in taxation, but this is what needed to be done considering the current atmosphere. Pass it and make no further concessions. Next, allow no more increase in the debt ceiling and force Obama to actually cut current spending rather than promising future cuts.

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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:34pm
  You’re assuming a president that has our best interest at heart and nothing could be further from the truth.Barry wants the rates to go up on everybody and the rates will go up,add in the disaster of the so called health care law and the ‘ONE’ will turn a recession into a depression,his desired result. He needs to crash the system so he can complete his fundamental transformation of America into Amerika.He hasn’t had a budget in four years! That’s never happened before in our entire history,no that bastard doesn’t ever want a budget he simply wants to spend us into oblivion,his hatred of America compels him to it.
  
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- brtmchl30
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:37pm
  Why do you support tax hikes? Spending is the problem. There are new taxes everyday. I live in Chicago i am getting taxed to death on a federal and local level. Once there is a federal tax increase, then the state raises the taxes, then the county. You think its not bad to go from 34 percent to 39 percent but you are missing the picture. Obamacare also has hidden taxes so now you are up around 40 Percent, along with state and county I bet they are paying over 50. Lets not talk about sales tax, property tax, alcohol, tobacco. cap gains and now they want a 50 percent death tax. The dream is to build a life and hopefully pass it down generationally but they want to make that impossible. The rich already pay for the majority of everything in this country while 50 percent of the people contribute nothing. This isn’t a problem that the rich created, the government created this mess. I don’t understand why there is no outrage that the administration will not cut spending. Buffett and Google and all the other a holes that say they would gladly pay more taxes are the biggest liars there are. They have teams of lawyers that figure ways around the tax code not to mention these hypocrites dont even pay their taxes.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:47pm
  @Why do you support tax hikes? ,
  
  Please read my first sentence. I do not support tax hikes. But being a realist I know that something had to be offered up. I would like to see the entire tax code thrown in the garbage and a flat tax implemented, but that ain’t gonna happen. Now Boehner needs to walk away from the table after this is passed. Leave it in Reid and Obama’s lap and go enjoy a nice Christmas dinner. Obama can be neutered if the House allocates funds wisely.
  
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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:57pm
  @BRT
  
  First they covet, then they vote to steal, in the end they will murder. Now they are the majority. In a democracy this is the beginning of the end. Unless there is a revival. Are you getting your family to a church that teaches God’s word? Let me give you a hint. If you are currently going to a church with more than a hundred members, probably not. You are having your ears tickled.
  
  There may not be more than a dozen men left in the ministry that teaches God’s word without watering it down. They are hard to find.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 8:10pm
  Boehner lost his support and had to postpone the tax vote. The plot thickens.
  
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noslave
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:20pm
hopefully the bills,PLAN B?, full wording was “BITE ME OBAMA”WE CAN BE JUST AS ARROGANT YOU MUTT??

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skippy6
Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:11pm
Sounds like a Laural and Hardy episode…At least they were actually working!!!!!

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=laurel+and+hardy+clips&view=detail&mid=AD93DF3E5A1FC9619E2DAD93DF3E5A1FC9619E2D&first=0&qpvt=laurel+and+hardy+clips

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on December 20, 2012 at 7:20pm
  So Obama will let tax rates increase on every taxpayer because he wants to argue about who is really rich?
  
  Go with that Bohner, that is a good position to argue and will show BHO for what he really is. Pin the looming tax increase on his intransigence.
  
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