Hannity Battles With Atheist Over Anti-Christmas ‘Myth’ Billboard & the Big Bang: ‘Rude,’ ‘Narcissistic’ & ‘Mean’
American Atheists (AA) president David Silverman is a frequent guest on Fox News, where he regularly tussles with conservative hosts over a plethora of issues pertaining to the separation of church and state. Last month, Silverman debated Bill O’Reilly about the War on Christmas. And on Thursday night, he returned to battle Sean Hannity over his group’s potentially-offensive, anti-Christmas billboard in New York’s Times Square.
As TheBlaze previously reported, the controversial message, which reads, “Keep the Merry! Dump the Myth!,” is meant to attack the religious sentiments associated with the Christmas season. The sign includes an image of Santa with a photo of Jesus suffering on the cross. The “merry” corresponds to the traditional Christmas mascot, while “myth” (in caps) is presented beneath the Christian savior’s picture.

Photo Credit: American Atheists
The segment opens with a montage of comments from people who are unhappy to see the ad posted in one of the busiest areas of New York City. The reactions ranged from “horrible” and “disgusting” to “I don’t like it.” Even Santa, himself, rejected the anti-Christian message.
Following these comments, Hannity wasted no time targeting the billboard as offensive and questioning Silverman’s motivations for posting it. The atheist activist doubled down and, instead of focusing upon the negative connotations, he claimed that the billboard is meant to attract the attention of non-believers who go to church to celebrate Christmas because of pressure from their families.
“You want to insult people. You want to attack them. You want to stick it in the ribs on their holiday,” Hannity charged. “And you just want to be rude and narcissistic and mean. Why?”
Silverman obviously rejected these claims, noting that AA is actually looking to help non-believers cope with the religious nature of the holiday season.
“There’s a lot of familial and social pressure that keeps atheists in the closet,” he responded, noting that he and his group are working “to tell the atheists of this country that they are not alone.”
The debate extended into the Big Bang, what happens after people die and other related issues. Watch it unfold, below:
The interview concluded with Hannity throwing a “Merry Christmas” Silverman’s way. In response, the atheist leader poked back, saying, “Happy Holidays, Sean.”
(H/T: Mediaite)
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- Atheists Post Anti-Christmas Billboard in Times Square, Featuring Jesus Being Crucified: ‘Dump the Myth!’
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:12pmWow, Hannity’s an idiot! He really doesn’t think there are social and societal consequences for many atheists to who want to be open about it?
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jman-6
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:36pmHannity’s point was if these so called atheist choose to go to church they don’t believe in or bow down to someone else’s demand; that’s their choice and therefore Silverman’s argument was BS!! I don’t think you want Silverman representing atheists because he’s to dumb to know the difference between a religion and philosophy! Christianity is a philosophy and not a religion!! If you get caught lying right from the start you lose all credibility!! I hope you have a Merry Christmas and JESUS loves you!!
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:00pmWhat is all this nonsense as of late with people saying Christianity is not a religion? I really don’t care if you call it a philosophy, a religion or a cult. It’s irrelevant. However, I pretty sure just about every other person in the world would call it a religion. Must be a Blaze thing.
Regardless, often times if someone is living with a very religious family or friends, there can be social consequences to coming out as an atheist. Many people keep it a secret out of fear of being alienated by friends, family and coworkers. While I suppose nobody is forcing them to be religious, there is often time very strong pressure to pretend to be.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:14pmPnis, can’t give strength to weak people. They have to find it within themselves.
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texashuntre
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:37pmFunny I have Never have met a 5 year old atheist before. Funny how they are so afraid of the Lord. Shame on NY for allowing this. You are in a close second to CA!
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texashuntre
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:39pmTHIS GUY has it figured out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q9afXNm-klM
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tslate
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:43pm“P”NIS, clearly you chose your handle to invoke outrage just like the billboard was intended to do. Stop trying to psycho-babble everyone. Atheists main target is Christians not Muslims so most of you’re points regarding philosphy vs religion register as nothing more than false indignation. So don’t believe in God, that’s your problem, don’t pretend that we have to care or your “hurt” and “offended” by every religious symbol you see. You’re just another self-servng SIG that constantly makes war to fulfill your own agenda. Once you get your version of God out of the public arena (by then it’s too late anyway), you won’t stop,then you’ll want to re-educate everyone into Eugenics. Stop whining and crying and excusing your way through life and just don’t believe but leave others alone.
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:43pmTexas- Five year olds also believe in Santa Clause and the tooth fairy. They’ll believe anything their parents tell them, i.e, religion. Smart people stop believing in fairy tales when they grow up.
Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:06pmIf you are “Outraged” by my username, then I think you have some very serious problems and ought to get off the internet. I haven’t used any “psycho-babble”, unless you consider my use of clear thought out points to be “psycho-babble”. Clearly, you’ve decided to use this space, not to criticize what I’ve written, but to make nonsense points about how I don’t criticize Islam or some other nonsense about Christianity being a philosophy and not a religion. You forget to mention that I’m a Marxist/Communist/George Soros puppet/agent of Satan trying to enforce UN Agenda 21. It’s the same comments every time.
#1. Atheists criticize Islam all the time. It’s a violent, misogynistic religion that has culturally not advanced beyond the 13th century. I believe their beliefs are as absurd.. We all know this. It is preaching to the choir here on the Blaze. I enjoy an honest debate with people who disagree with me. This will not spark it.
#2. I don’t care what you call Christianity. Philosophy, religion, cult… It’s irrelevant.
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texashuntre
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:04pmO’PNIS So you are a fully mature man aye? Your name tells all. Second since you know there is no God and you claim to know everything about life, explain to me why the scripts were written, not just for the Christians but for all cultures! Just to amuse or irritate “grown men” like yourself? I hope you find God before it is to late. GOD BLESS YOU PNIS and Merry CHRISTMAS! There is hope yet.
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:19pmThank you Texas, Merry Christmas to you too! I never claimed I knew everything about life and never claimed to know for a fact there isn’t a god. I just haven’t been convinced by the evidence. The stories aren’t even remotely plausible. As far as the scripts go, I don’t know why, nor do I care why they were written. This isn’t evidence of any truth value. There have been lots of things written over the last few thousand years and I doubt you believe in the majority of it either.
The only claim I have made is that there exists social and societal pressure for an atheist to remain silent. So far, none of my points have been debated. I have only received ad hominem attacks on my person and/or username. I take this as a sign that I have won the debate.
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smv803
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:28pmHere’s a lesson for you:
Religion is man searching for God
Christianity is God seeking out man
Religion says do
Christianity says done
Are we clear or do you still have questions?
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ltb
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:13pmThere’s a difference between being open about your non-belief and trying to force other people to not believe. Being open about your non-belief means you say, “no, I don’t” if someone asks whether you believe in God. Being a fascist means that you try to remove every vestige of Christianity (evidently every other faith is okay with you atheists) from the public square. BTW, the Bible says the reason you people do that is because of your own wickedness (Romans 1:18). It’s too bad you people blame God for all of the bad things in your life, because He’s the only good thing in this world.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, JESUS STILL LOVES YOU!!!
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smv803
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:48pmAmen LTB……Jesus loves us all.
A merry Christmas to all.
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DenverKitty
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:52pmSilverman’s a idiot!
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:27pmLTB- I don’t care what silly reasons the bible gives for my beliefs. If you knew me, you would know that I’m not wicked and actually a nice guy. And I don’t blame god for any bad things in my life. My life is actually quite good and I’ve been rather fortunate. I don’t believe god exists.
I’m not trying to force anyone else to not believe. I’m not forcing anyone to do anything. And I’ve criticized Islam right here in this thread. Your criticism of me is wholly without merit. Apparently, you find simply stating my beliefs to be offensive. I drive by billboards and church signs every day that criticize my beliefs, which I can handle. It seems that your beliefs are so fragile, that you get offended at the mere mention that they may be false.
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smv803
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:12pm@ chappellgirl5.. Could not have put it better. What if they are wrong? Tell me again why people purchase insurance?
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Jaycen
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:38pmHey, PNIS.
Look at your handle. Have you ever considered that it’s not other people’s view of your belief, it’s your nasty disposition that’s the problem?
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:37pmJaycen- I don’t think I’ve really been all that nasty. As a matter of fact, I’m probably one of the more civil people posting here. Once again, an ad hominem attack on my user name and not on my arguments. It’s obvious you can’t attack my arguments, so you attack my user name, you call me mean things, you make baseless assertions, tell me I’m going to hell or some other made up nonsense. You’re really offended by PNIS? Why does the human body offend religious folks so much?
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singingcowboy674
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:09amI think there may be social pressure within the family unit to get other family members to go to church, but I don’t think Silverman’s stated reason is his REAL reason. And both are right in that anybody that is a CHRISTIAN is not nor can be an atheist. And no atheist is a Christian. He doesn’t know the MEANING of the word he’s speaking out against. Point of fact, going to a particular place of worship does not make you the same by association.
People who believe in Jesus and go to church once in a while to make their families happy are NOT Christian. Not before they walk into the building and not after unless of course the Holy Spirit convicts them while they are IN the church (or before) and by way of sorrow over one’s sins and belief of the claims of Christ, and the desire for the kingship of Christ over that person’s life and a subsequent indwelling of the Holy Spirit…..you aren’t a Christian when you leave either. Even if you simply believe in the man of Jesus Christ and even so much that He is the Son of God (which He is), you still aren’t without the regeneration that comes through a personal experience with Him. And so if you are INHABITED by the Holy Ghost, you MUST TRULY believe to begin with.
And if he wanted to put up a sign encouraging would be atheists to forgo church on Christmas the sign simply could have read:
Follow your heart this Holiday. You shouldn’t be forced to attend services this holiday season. Enjoy the love and warm feelings w/
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December22
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:58amWhat consequences in today’s world are there.
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rfycom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:12pmOk so all y’all ain’t getting nothing for xmas.
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rfycom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:57pmOh and Santa rules
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rfycom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:56pmHannity the bully. Making a living of of gosiping like a little granny lady. Adding no value to nothing or no body cept hiself.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:04pmWho’s the bully? David Silverman, a Jew who purposefully insults and ridicules majority held traditions and beliefs, or Hannity, the man who calls this minority cultural and tradition changer out.
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rfycom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:20pmHey Jerk, stay on point if you are going to debate. You probably been drinking already maybe surfing some porno. So since we are off point. Who created God?
Love you man/woman. You have a great xmas.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:03pmRfycom, you wrote who’s the bully. I’d say, I was right on message. Perhaps you should read what you write.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:18pmRfycom, you wrote, “Hannity the bully.” I wrote, “Who’s the bully?” That is on point. Sorry for the above misprint, though in doesn’t change the anything.
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ChappellGirl5
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:29pmNobody created God, He is, was & is yet to be, He is eternal. He is the Creator, not a creation. The creation (man) is NOT greater than the Creator. Just because your tiny, finite mind cannot wrap itself around the concept of an eternal Being doesn’t make it a myth. My question is: what if you’re wrong & I’m right? What happens to you after you die? I know what happens to me when my body dies. If I’m wrong & you’re right nothing happens, but if the alternative is true there is a heaven & a hell. The Christ you mock & reject so completely is preparing a place for me in His Father’s mansion. There is a place prepared for all those who willfully choose to reject the love & mercy of that eternal God. When you get there it will be too late to change your mind, not choosing is a choice to spend eternity condemned. And before you start screaming about God being hateful because He won’t allow sinners in His presence, just remember hell is your choice not His. He takes no pleasure in condemning His creation to hell, it’s His will that none should perish, but that all would come to repentance. That’s the whole reason Christ came & died for your sins, so you won’t have to live eternally in torment. As to the question about Christianity not being a religion, that’s not new to the Blaze, we have been saying that for decades. Religion is all about working your way to God, Christianity is God making a way for you.
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davecorkery
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:29pmHannity looked terrified, like the coward he is. He kept bringing up opinions, legends, while the atheist brought up harmless facts. This terrifies christians. So my vote is Hannity: 0, Silverman: 1.
Winner by TKO.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:35pmYou are correct in secular terms. The Jewish culture changers and tradition destroyers are winning in the secular world. They hide behind the veil of antisemitism to carry out their changes. It’s working.
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TomZ
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:49pmWhy is it that Saint Nick is okay, but Christ (mas) not?
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:00pmTomZ, it’s a war on our culture and tradition. We were/are a Christian culture with our Christian traditions. The Jewish secular minority doesn’t like that any more today than they did in the past.
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Platonician
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:35pmHannity didn’t lock terrified, he needs, however, to understand apologetics in order to fight the enemies of the faith. The Catholic Church has answers for all the simple half-truths that narcissist atheist raised. On evolution for instance Pious XII wrote: “the Teaching Authority of the Church does not forbid that, in conformity with the present state of human sciences and sacred theology, research and discussions, on the part of men experienced in both fields, take place with regard to the doctrine of evolution, in as far as it inquires into the origin of the human body as coming from pre-existent and living matter — for the Catholic faith obliges us to hold that souls are immediately created by God. However, this must be done in such a way that the reasons for both opinions, that is, those favorable and those unfavorable to evolution, be weighed and judged with the necessary seriousness, moderation and measure, and provided that all are prepared to submit to the judgment of the Church.” “Some however, rashly transgress this liberty of discussion, when they act as if the origin of the human body from pre-existing and living matter were already completely certain and proved by the facts which have been discovered up to now and by reasoning on those facts, and as if there were nothing in the sources of divine revelation which demands the greatest moderation”
The problem is that protestantism has turned most people into easy preys for atheists.
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scissorflash
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:26pmSPINMAMA, only a religious person would consider the truth to be provocative lol.
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todd147
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:18pmDon’t be deceived. This guy clearly believes in God. However he serves satan. Why would an atheist care what anyone else believes. And what is an atheist? In order to say that you know there is no god, then you would have had to travel the world, looked under every rock, climbed every tree and then traveled the entire universe and check out all the planets, stars and everything in between to say that you have seen everything and can testify that God does not exist. The problem with unbelief is simple. Intelligent design has been accepted by most legitimate scientist. In order for there to be intelligent design, there has to be a designer, and if there is a designer, it demands accountability. That’s where atheist get there venom. They don’t like the accountability side.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:33pmLook at the results. Don’t get lost in debating the belief. God is being used to change our culture and traditions. Point David Silverman out. He is a descendent of those who killed for secular reasons. Christ was eating into their secular power. Christ challenged their money changing principles.
Caiaphas considers, with “the Chief Priests and Pharisees”, what to do about Jesus, whose influence was spreading.
They see a different secular world. They want your world to change.
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No_Lables
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:50pmAn atheist is simply someone who does not have a belief that any of the religions have any proof to their claims of validity. In other words, that is a position of not having any position. Now, for one to say there is a god, or gods, they are then the ones with the burden of proof. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence to support the claim.
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Locked
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:50pm@The_Jerk
“Point David Silverman out. He is a descendent of those who killed for secular reasons.”
Man, you REALLY hate cultural Jews, don’t you? At one time I thought you just disliked Israelis, and while I disagreed, I could see why some of their actions were atrocious. But in fact you really just hate Jews.
I hope you get over it soon.
@Todd
“Why would an atheist care what anyone else believes.”
Most that I’ve talked to don’t: but they are firmly against the public (ie, government-sponsored) promotion of Christianity over all other faiths.
“And what is an atheist?”
Again, personal experience, but most that I’ve spoken with are actually agnostic atheists, who basically say “I’m not convinced by the evidence of the Christian God.” Few would say “God does not exist and I can prove it.”
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Stephencj
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:08pmYour comment is extremely ignorant to what Atheism is, and the differences in beliefs within the Atheist community. Atheism just means without theism. Not all Atheists claim to know for a fact that there is no god. Atheists, such as myself, say “I don’t know” when it comes to how we all got here. There is not sufficient evidence to lead me to believe that there is a god, so I don’t. It is that simple. I don’t know, so I am not going to fill in the blank with something that is greatly lacking in evidence.
You clearly didn’t listen to what David Silverman was saying, since you think this is about him caring what other people believe. The billboard was more of a message to the people who are Atheist Christians (those coerced by family to believe something that, deep down, they really don’t) that they aren’t alone.
Using the term “legitimate scientist” is a loaded term that is defined by your own definition of legitimacy. You also are using the “accountability” argument that assumes that only people that believe in a god can be good and understand there are consequences to our actions, which is nonsense.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:09pmLocked, appears as though you hate historical fact. If I’ve made an error, point it out. Otherwise you’re obfuscating the truth.
As it is, David Silverman is the hater, not me. I love the American culture and traditions. He, and apparently you, do not. That’s okay with me, but don’t fret when I point that fact out.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:14pmIF JESUS had not died for our sins, when we died…that would be it. DUST. No eternal life.
THE most joyous thing in life is a personal relationship with GOD and Jesus and Friendship with Mary and the Saints. The same yesterday, today and tomorrow… The truth about GOD is the truth world-wide. It never changes.
The increase of these Satanic Minions and these classless, tasteless, offensive billboards designed to cause pain, harm, discord, anger …but they fail. They only serve to point out the GREAT SACRIFICE that our LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, made for us to pay our sins, cleanse our ‘records’ and therefore allow GOD to welcome us into eternal life with Him. These Satanic Minions who are so arrogant as to deny the fact they were created by a Greater Being (you know, the type of brain power that can create life, oceans, suns, moons, the Universe, a human eye…that Being) …these horrific, arrogant Atheists aren’t content to have their belief..sick as it is…they are so INSECURE ABOUT IT that they WANT COMPANY. SORRY dudes, I know there is a GOD. I also know HE LOVES ME and I know that all my questions will continue to be answered and His truth shared with me.
Here is the bottom line on Atheists: YOU BOYS and GIRLS cannot prove that there is NO GOD. YOU cannot compete with the great minds of the ages who really questioned and came up : THERE IS A GOD. HE OWNS IT ALL. HE LOVES US. I dare you guys to dare to ask God if HE is real.
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Locked
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:29pm“appears as though you hate historical fact.”
I forget your faith… are you Christian? I seem to recall a certain Messiah was a Jew. But let’s look at some statements of yours:
@The_Jerk wrote:
“David Silverman is the hater, not me.”
Who’s the bully? David Silverman, a Jew”
“The Jewish culture changers and tradition destroyers are winning in the secular world. They hide behind the veil of antisemitism to carry out their changes.”
“The Jewish secular minority doesn’t like that any more today than they did in the past.”
“Don’t allow them (Jews) to hide behind the labels. That’s why they created them.”
“Point out the movers and destroyers (the Jews).”
“David Silverman is another culture changing, tradition destroying, Jewish progressive. There’s something in the Jewish culture that makes them changers of cultures rather than assimilators into cultures. They always want the majority to conform to their minority standards. They do this by dividing, using courts, using wealth, and controlling debates through media influence. It’s called change through their force multipliers in societies.”
As said: you really, REALLY hate Jews, don’t you? I especially like the “they created the labels!!” argument. It’s like someone saying “I hate all blacks, but they created the idea of racism! I just hate them because of their skin color, and then I get attacked for it! I’m not racist, they are for getting mad that I hate their skin color!”
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:15pmMany people have a variety of definitions for Atheism.
A – Without
Theist – Belief in a Deity
An Atheist is one who doesn’t believe in God. Whether they are a “soft” or “hard” atheist is dependent, usually, in one way of saying this phrase:
God Doesn’t Exist.
A “hard” atheist will make a sweeping declaration such as the one above. Many atheists I’ve come across are more of a “soft” atheist, or what I define as an Agnostic. I am an Agnostic.
A – Without
Gnostic – Possession of Knowledge
With this definition, an Agnostic would declare their belief like this:
I don’t believe there’s a God.
The difference may seem subtle or non-existent to some, but it’s there. One is making a claim to fact, which I don’t agree with. As a poster mention, to truly claim that God absolutely doesn’t exist, you’d have to have all the knowledge of the universe. God could be hiding behind some moon in some distant galaxy. I don’t know.
But, I don’t believe he exist. As many have already said before me, the burden of proof lays in the ones making the claim.
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smv803
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:10pmTodd1947……Bingo!
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From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:12pm@The Jerk – It doesn’t matter what historical ills Jewish have done. They are people just like everyone else and people do things in the name of religion – or the lack thereof – all through history.
Point of fact, God said that they are His people. Period. He said His covenant with them was forever. Period. He also said that he would bless those that blessed them and curse those who cursed them.
Now, they’ve turned their face from Him and this is the time of the church (His time with playing with us Gentiles. All humanity are His children, after all.) and they will suffer on this earth, but He’s going to give them a second chance. Read Revelations. They all convert – to a man.
Keep that in mind…..
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christianUSA
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:13pmOpinion Thanks for putting up big pictures for little kids to associate Jesus death with CHRISTmas; For showing how rude, unintellectual, deceptive, unhistoric, intolerance and that their message is so poor they resort to using Christian symbol of charity against Christianity’s greatest Teacher who taught: Love, forgivennes, charity, tolerance to even enemies. Modern view of santa is from pagan deity Myths and supposed roman catholic priest one kind charitable; Jesus and that he was executed as picture shows is well present in history so unintellectual, deceptive, unhistoric to picture this as a myth, and about Jesus Birth; but secular merry is mostly about intoxication etc seems not what most think of joy in this? Intolerance why can they just go do their nothing, why are they fighting to strip rights of Christian free open expressions and why can they not just ignore other peoples Christmas joy?!
1JN 2:22; 1JN 4:3.
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AvengerK
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:47pmIt’s funny that the faithful atheists decided to choose a depiction of Christ crucified as their “myth”. The best evidence we have of the historical Jesus from the best secular sources is of his arrest and crucifixion. Tacitus, Pliny the younger..etc. Silly atheists.
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From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:28pmThey did it to be offensive. Why not a picture of a babe in a cradle?
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I SPY
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:03pmThe only thing these liberal losers hate more than conservatives and God is themselves.
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Pnis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:18pmWhat does this comment even mean? Why would we hate ourselves? Half of the Blaze posters think atheists are narcissists that are full of themselves and then folks like you say that we hate ourselves. Just FYI, atheists are normal human beings that are neither narcissists nor hate ourselves. I bet you know a few atheists yourself and don’t even know it.
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From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:21pm@pnis – Because you are both – well, not you, perhaps, but these noisy ones. You obviously hate yourselves because if you were confident then someone else’s faith and celebration of that faith wouldn’t bother you in the least. On the ohter hand, since everything IS about you, you have to have all the linelight on yourselves and your non-belief. ESPECIALLY during the Holy times of that religion you hate so much.
And it IS only ONE religion you bother. You don’t bother the muslims, who have the numbers to disrupt both school days and work shifts. But you don’t mind that. Separation of church and state doesn’t apply there……….
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Pnis
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:25amName 1 instance of Islam violating the separation of church and state that atheists are ignoring.
And someone else’s faith and celebration of that faith doesn’t bother me in the least, nor does it bother any other atheist. I agree that the billboard is provocative, but I think it has to be to reach it’s target audience.
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scissorflash
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:51pmThe billboard is only stating a fact. I love Christmas, but it doesn’t have anything to do with some guy who got nailed to a piece of wood 2000 years ago. Christians just co-opted that date from a pagan celebration and said Jesus was born that day. Enjoy your time with your families. Merry Christmas!
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:05pmHas our culture and tradition been changed? Yes. That is a secular result. They want you to engage, get lost, in their religious argument, as they make the secular changes. They are using your God to destroy your culture and traditions. Identify the culprits and fight the fight on secular terms. Don’t allow them to hide behind the labels. That’s why they created them.
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Spinmamma
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:07pmSilly attempt to be provocative.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:07pmHappy Winter Solstice scissorflash….
You know… that’s today and not the 25th. : )
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christianUSA
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:28pmOpinion Actually historically it was not Christians but a former unbaptized Roman emperor that so declared this date Jesus birthday to replace pagan holiday. But the point is that Jesus was a Real born son of man.
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scissorflash
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:32pmTHE-MONK, The Romans had the Winter Solstice pegged at December 25.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:42pm@scissorflash
As usual… the Romans had many things incorrect.
They weren’t really known for their scientific achievements or calendars.
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Platonician
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:32pmYou are naive. You discovered that idea recently and because the literalistic (ignorant) protestant tradition you probably grew up in, you draw anti-christian generalizations.
The first to study the origins of the Christian Christmas were Catholic theologians that didn’t always agree on the exact date. Even today the Orthodox Church celebrates Christmas the 7ths of January and the Armenian churches the 19th. It’s the symbol that matters.
‘All christian traditions and doctrines can be seen to have pagan antecedents.’ ALL of them. Latin the language of the Church, for instance, was the official language of the Roman empire. Greek the language of the New Testament was the language of Homer. Catholicism teaches that Revelation happened to men, men in a given culture, at a given historical time, with a historical background. Not to imaginary beings. Of course the new doctrine revealed to men made use of pre-existent elements, like Saint Paul preaching in Athens, talking about the pagan altar to the ‘unknown god’ (Acts 17). This is in no way disqualifies the Doctrine of the Church, on the contrary it shows the richness of its millenarian tradition.
The problem is that the narcissists that divided the church: Luther, Calvin, etc. (The Obamas of Christianity) have created simplistic doctrines and ignorance, which are easy preys for the enemies of the faith, atheists.
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From Virginia
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:18pmThe fact they chose to depict His death speaks volumns! Christmas is the celebration of His birth.
So………you should ask yourself why they chose to use a picture of a grown Christ dying on a cross? Why not a babe in a cradle?
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InWithForGod
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:40pmFrom nothing, to nothing gives you nothing in between.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:53pmLook. They want you to make this a belief argument, when in fact their goal is to change our culture and destroy our traditions. Neither side can win a belief argument. They are winning the culture changing and tradition destroying reality, as you get hung up on the argument. You must identify the cause. Point out the movers and destroyers. Don’t let them hide behind the labels of their creation.
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searching for the Truth
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:35pmHannity . Still, one of the ” Leaders .” Mr. Hannity to war with an atheist is an attrition on the Spirit. The only thing one can direct them to is ” cause and effect.” One has to tell them to research the life and death of some of their most infamous – Try starting with the one who was, by random ,responsible for taking prayer out of school. Reveal their lives from their death .
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:13pmHah!!!! The atheist wished him Happy Holy Days! (that is what holidays means).
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NinjaJuice
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:02pmThe greatest lie the devil ever told… was convincing humanity that he doesn’t exist. Hmm,…this must be the reverse phsycology just for kicks and giggles.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:19pmI don’t know how many times I have to write this before it becomes blatantly obvious to even the most detached, but here goes. David Silverman is another culture changing, tradition destroying, Jewish progressive. There’s something in the Jewish culture that makes them changers of cultures rather than assimilators into cultures. They always want the majority to conform to their minority standards. They do this by dividing, using courts, using wealth, and controlling debates through media influence. It’s called change through their force multipliers in societies.
This is the reason for their persecuted history. It’s an historical tale. And, I’m not the first to notice.
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism
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DeavonReye
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:35pmSo, . . . let’s get this straight. The “Devil” created the Earth and universe? If part of “the lie” was to make it to where any HONEST experimentation finds naturalistic mechanisms, . . . nothing supernatural at all, . . . then a god damns people FOR believing what has proven true, . . . do you not see the issue with such a belief? Really stop and consider such things and how they logically follow any true reality of the world we know. It is an important thing to do! You have to use critical thinking here!
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:38pmJerk write a novel. You must count jews to go to sleep.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:47pmAbrahamsSheepdog, did Churchill do the same?
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woowoo8
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:01pm“Faith” is the essence of things hoped for but the evidence of things not seen”
The non-believer cannot understand faith in the Lord because
they have never experienced “Faith” as the Spirit-filled Christian has because
The Spirit-filled Christiain is filled with the Spirit of God (The Holy Ghost)
The dialogue between believer and non-believer will never be settled until God settles it.
I Corinthians 3:11 – “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, Which is Jesus Christ”
Look to 2013 for the “New Thing” that the Lord has said that He will do.
No man, Devil; Devil’s Imp; or fallen Angel and doubting Christian will be able to
stand and mock God when he unleashes “The days of the ‘VOICE” of the Seventh Angel.
God always warns humanity before His wrath falls upon them and God’s messages will become clear as we race toward the real end of the world -”The Terrible Day of the Lord”
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Elisheva
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:53am“Every” Knee Shall Bow and “Every” Tongue Shall Confess Jesus Christ is Lord to the Glory of God the Father..Phillipians 2:10-11
It will be a Sad Day for those that rejected Jesus Christ as Lord!
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davecorkery
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:27pmWho wrote Phillipians? God. Nope. Not one word. It is nothing more than the opinions of the writer. Nothing more. Hey, you want to live your life by the opinions of ancient men? BE MY GUEST! I’ll choose reality, anyday. Not some fear mongering ancient opinion.
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akrock
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:05amYou know it wouldn’t be so bad if those who oppose Christianity actually sat down and read the Bible instead of assuming that it is false or because mom and dad forced them to get up and go on Sunday. . It is sad too that many so called Christians have never read or even own a Bible themselves and most of them that have have read just enough to make themselves sound like fanatics. True believers and disciples such as myself who study the Bible and explore it’s history shouldn’t be aghast or surprised at what is happening, because if you have read your Bible you know everything is happening exactly as it is written, no more no less, so I would be making sure my house is in order instead of worrying about what the haters say. Merry Christmas.
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right field
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:48amThis man is definitely full of hatred and his message is clearly anti-Christian.
If you do no believe in any deity or have no religion, then no one can force anything on you because you do not believe. It is a contradiction to suggest otherwise.
Those who do believe cannot affect anyone who does not believe in religion.
It is like saying people who believe in ghosts cause others who do NOT believe in ghosts to start believing against their will. Nonsense.
Fox should ignore this idiot and never give him any airtime or coverage.
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scissorflash
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:01pmThe people interviewed apparently don’t know that the celebration of the winter solstice was around around long before Christians annexed the holiday lol.
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HuskerDave
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:35amThis guy is either a liar or deranged. Maybe both.
Someone is forcing him to go to church? – a lie.
They put up an anti-Islam billboard in NJ and nobody made threats? – certainly a lie.
He is not an athiest. He is an anti-Christian. Not the same thing. Intellectual dishonesty.
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Kupo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:20pmDude, he’s not claiming that anybody is forcing atheists into church at gunpoint. He is claiming that there are certain societal and familial pressures that convince some of them to hide the truth from those they care about. Whether it’s a fear of disappointment or a desire not to rock the boat or whatever. I know for a fact that this sort of thing happens. I have several friends who were nonbelievers – albeit born and raised in the church – all throughout their adolescence but put up a facade of belief for the purposes of social acceptance. I knew another guy who joined the church in order to make friends when I knew for a fact that he didn’t really believe. I can certainly see where this guy from American Atheists is coming from on this particular point and I think it was obtuse of Hannity to respond the way he did.
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Jude 4
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:33amThat’s not a picture of the Jesus in scripture. The apostles stated that they no longer regarded Jesus “after the flesh”. Jesus was likely Brown in skin color, but His physical appearence was only temporary. Jesus even appeared to His diciples in “another form” after the resurrection. Jesus is God in the flesh, and His glorified body, which no man has seen, is how He exists in eternity. All the attention to Jesus physical suffering is a stumbling block to masses of religious professors. Most believe that Jesus died in order to allow them to live their own way, without the guilt that goes along with disobedience.
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:55amHey Jude 4.
You said:
‘Most believe that Jesus died in order to allow them to live their own way,
without the guilt that goes along with disobedience’
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Is this what you believe, or were you just referring today’s professors ..?
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UNALIEN
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:30amThese intolerant radicals are really “Statist” hiding behind Atheism to demoralize and subvert individual liberties and freedoms.. based on Judea-Christain values
Statism is incompatible with all religions except the authoritarian pseudo-religion of ISLAM
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:30pmActually Islam is just a useful tool at the moment because it is very anti-western. The Statists will try and turn on Islam after they have solidified more power. Otherwise you are fairly correct. Atheism is the official religion of The State, with Obama as his Prophet.
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chucksue351
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:28amwhen tradition (no matter where they came from or what they mean) trumps Scripture, then the people of this world had better repent
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:18pmLike the tradition of Scripture only?
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:29pmScripture Alone Disproves “Scripture Alone”
Gen. to Rev. – Scripture never says that Scripture is the sole infallible authority for God’s Word. Scripture also mandates the use of tradition. This fact alone disproves sola Scriptura.
Matt. 28:19; Mark 16:15 – those that preached the Gospel to all creation but did not write the Gospel were not less obedient to Jesus, or their teachings less important.
Matt. 28:20 – “observe ALL I have commanded,” but, as we see in John 20:30; 21:25, not ALL Jesus taught is in Scripture. So there must be things outside of Scripture that we must observe. This disproves “Bible alone” theology.
Mark 16:15 – Jesus commands the apostles to “preach,” not write, and only three apostles wrote. The others who did not write were not less faithful to Jesus, because Jesus gave them no directive to write. There is no evidence in the Bible or elsewhere that Jesus intended the Bible to be sole authority of the Christian faith.
Luke 1:1-4 – Luke acknowledges that the faithful have already received the teachings of Christ, and is writing his Gospel only so that they “realize the certainty of the teachings you have received.” Luke writes to verify the oral tradition they already received.
John 20:30; 21:25 – Jesus did many other things not written in the Scriptures. These have been preserved through the oral apostolic tradition and they are equally a part of the Deposit of Faith.
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:30pmBy the end of the fourth century, at the Council of Carthage in 397, the Church had finally accepted those books which became the Canon of the New Testament. Up until that time many of books had been in dispute and, as mentioned, many of them did not make it into the New Testament. The official Canon of the New Testament remained inaccessible to most Christians through the centuries that followed, right through the Middle Ages. When the printing press was invented, the Bible became more accessible but the majority of Christians remained illiterate and few people possessed copies of the Bible. It was far too costly for most people to purchase. Most churches might have had a copy and this was usually chained in place so no one would steal it. Some Protestants have claimed that these Bibles were chained in order to keep them away from the people. But anyone who wished to read the Bible, if able, could use this chained Bible in the church. But for most of the centuries of Christianity, the Bible was totally inaccessible to most Christians, because of its rarity and its cost, and because of illiteracy. It remains inaccessible to millions of Christians, and non-Christians, to this day, due to illiteracy.
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:30pmYet these illiterate Christians have still heard the teachings of Christ and the Apostles. And readings from Scripture are an essential part of every Mass because every Mass is divided into the Liturgy of the Word and the Liturgy of the Eucharist, just as described by St. Justin Martyr in 155 A.D. The Liturgy of the Word consists of readings from the Bible.
What does this reality say about the Protestant position that the Bible is the only source of God’s Revelation? Would God provide a source of His truth in a mode that was totally inaccessible to most Christians through most of Christian history? Did not Jesus say, “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. . . .” [Matthew 28:19] Of course this admonishes them to teach; it says nothing about writing. And the Bible itself says nothing about it being the sole source of God’s revelation. Sola Scriptura is un-Biblical. Scripture says nothing about the Apostles being commanded to write anything. Rather it commands them to preach. Preaching was and is therefore the principle method by which God’s truth is revealed to us.
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:32pmThe truth of the faith has been given primarily to the leaders of the Church (Eph. 3:5), who, with Christ, form the foundation of the Church (Eph. 2:20). The Church has been guided by the Holy Spirit, who protects this teaching from corruption (John 14:25-26, 16:13).
Now, Jesus said that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church [Matthew 16]. He also said, “I have told you this while I am with you. The Advocate, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you everything and remind you of all that I told you.” [John 14:25-26] Divine revelation, i.e., the Deposit of Faith, ended when the last Apostle died. Everything that the Church has taught since then is simply the passing down through the centuries of this Deposit of Faith from Jesus and the Apostles. The Holy Spirit would never allow error to creep in to this teaching, the Deposit of Faith. That does not mean that individuals themselves would not fall into error and become heretics, but the Church itself, the Magisterium, would, could never error. The Church is “the pillar and foundation of the truth.” [1 Timothy 3:15] It never says anywhere in the Bible that Scripture is the “pillar and foundation of the truth” because the Church is the “pillar and foundation of the truth.”
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:33pmThis teaching remains intact, even if some of it is not in Scripture. All Sacred Tradition of the Church, not in Scripture, has come down to us from the first century, from Jesus and the Apostles. No teachings have been added or patched in, ever. So when dogmas are formalized, such as the Immaculate Conception in 1854, that does not mean that this teaching did not exist until then. It existed from the first century. Our understanding of various teachings has grown and deepened through the centuries. This is sometimes called “The Development of Christian Doctrine.” Development of doctrine is defined as the increase in understanding — by means of the teaching of the Holy Spirit, prayer, theological study, and the reflection of the Body of Christ as a whole — of Christian doctrines which originated from the Lord Jesus Himself and which have been passed down through the Apostles, Fathers, Councils, and the Catholic Church in general. [Catechism of the Catholic Church, #94]
Mark 4:2: He taught them many things by parables. . . .
Luke 5:3: He got into one of the boats, the one belonging to Simon, and asked him to put out a little from shore. Then he sat down and taught the people from the boat. [It was not recorded what he taught them]
Mark 4:33: With many similar parables Jesus spoke the word to them, as much as they could understand.
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:34pmJohn 4:40-42: When the Samaritans came to him, they invited him to stay with them; and he stayed there two days. Many more began to believe in him because of his word, and they said to the woman, “We no longer believe because of your word; for we have heard for ourselves, and we know that this is truly the savior of the world.” [Nothing is recorded regarding what Jesus taught to them during these two days.]
Luke: 5:3: He got into one of the boats, the one belonging to Simon, and asked him to put out a little from shore. Then he sat down and taught the people from the boat.
Mark 6:34: . . . He began to teach them many things. [none of these "many things" are recorded here.]
John 16:12: I have yet many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. [These "many things" must have been spoken during Jesus' post-Resurrection appearances; few of them are recorded.]
John 20:30: Now Jesus did many other signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book.
Acts 1:2-3: . . .the apostles. . . to them he presented himself alive after his passion by many proofs, appearing to them during forty days, and speaking of the kingdom of God. [These are not recorded in the Bible.]
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:39pmSt. Paul makes three statements arguing for the truth of Tradition: “So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which were taught, whether by word or by letter from us.” [2 Thess. 2:15] “Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep aloof from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.” [2 Thess 3:6] “Now I praise you because you remember me in everything, and hold firmly to the traditions, just as I delivered them to you.” [1Cor 11:2]
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:40pmNow, a Protestant argument goes like this: “The Bible does not tell us that there is a pool of Tradition which exists separately from the Bible. Nor does the Bible give to this alleged tradition the weight of added certainty of the revelation of God that is necessary for our Salvation or Sanctification or Service. When things of substance are spoken of in the Bible, the apostles appealed to the Written Word and not to an alleged outside source of tradition.” [www.sxws.com]. First of all this argument is logically in error because Tradition, by its very nature, consists of a pool of beliefs. There is no need for the Bible to say there is a pool of tradition; it is self-evident. Secondly, whenever statements are made about the Apostles appealing to Scripture, they are always appealing to the Old Testament. The New Testament had not yet been written. And the Jews had many traditions not found in the Old Testament. Finally, all arguments against Sacred Tradition fall flat in the face of 1 Timothy 3:15.
if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.”
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:05pm@BYFAITH………You go on and on and on……………you’re like the energizer bunny keep it pithy as Bill O’Riely says you have much in your post that I or many others might disagree with but one of the bat just skimming through you say……………..”Jesus commands the apostles to “preach,” not write, and only three apostles wrote”
I count more than three off the top of my head………..Matthew, Mark, Luke, also Peter, James, John and while not of the original 12 Paul who was the direct choice of the resurrected and ascended Jesus.
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:48pmBY FAITH…….”Scripture Alone Disproves “Scripture Alone”
Gen. to Rev. – Scripture never says that Scripture is the sole infallible authority for God’s Word. Scripture also mandates the use of tradition. This fact alone ……………….
2Timothy 3:16 All scripture is inspired of God and benefical for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness.
Colossians 2:8 Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philsophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ.
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:20pmBY FAITH……..”This teaching remains intact, even if some of it is not in Scripture. All Sacred Tradition of the Church, not in Scripture, has come down to us from the first century, from Jesus and the Apostles. No teachings have been added or patched in, ever.
Like infant baptism, hell fire, purgatory, limbo, Trinity doctrine, the immortal soul to name a few.
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:54pmBY FAITH………”What does this reality say about the Protestant position that the Bible is the only source of God’s Revelation? Would God provide a source of His truth in a mode that was totally inaccessible to most Christians through most of Christian history?
Inaccessible, maybe because the “Church” during the bedarkened Middle Ages the Catholic Inquisition killed any who translated, read or even owned the Bible.
[Matthew 28:19] Of course this admonishes them to teach; it says nothing about writing. And the Bible itself says nothing about it being the sole source of God’s revelation. Sola Scriptura is un-Biblical. Scripture says nothing about the Apostles being commanded to write anything.
John was commanded to write the book of Revelation of the vision that he saw
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:11pmBY FAITH…………….”the apostles appealed to the Written Word and not to an alleged outside source ”
I thought they were inspired by God’s Holy Spirit
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by faith
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 10:25amGreenwood,
your lack of reading skill and your desire to take things out of context prove even more that you and your “skimming” of what is written has caused much confusion in Christianity.
That is why there are 40,000 + different Christian denominations, and still the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church still stands in the face of all this devision. Just as Jesus promissed
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DeavonReye
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:24amI agree with Silverman. It really IS about evidence over “just because someone tells you it is true”. And yes, there are many who profess “christianity” who actually no longer believe, but are stuck in the delemma of “do I hurt my believing family members who would grieve that I am going to hell”, or play the part for their sakes? And I have seen those who are clergy/pastors who are basically stuck in their profession because unemployment would be the alternative [when you only have a bible degree].
This topic is MUCH deeper than “just not believing”.
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:55amI always love the scientist/Atheist here who demand the evidence, the truth is 30-40% of scientist believe in a God, 76% of doctors also do, Atheist are only 1.6% in the US 2.4% worldwide.
Merry Christmas all
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DeavonReye
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:28pmI would venture to say that those “30-40%” believe it because they HAVE evidence. It is still up to a person’s own faith. But “faith” isn’t an avenue to truth.
So, yes, I would require some sort of evidential backing for any claim that I would incorporate into my world view. Why wouldn’t you . . . . if you care about what IS true? I understand that, for many religious people, they must “take it on faith” or “have had personal experiences that cause them to beleive”. . . yeah, yeah, I get it. But anecdotes and beliefs are insufficient to those who DO care if they have truth in their life.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:47pm“have had personal experiences that cause them to beleive”
A peek at the divine would be evidence. It is liken to the scientist not allowing you to take his papers with him once you leave the lab. You can proclaim the truth of what you saw in the scientists lab, but others will just have to take it on faith that you have seen the truth. Who knows, someday you might wind up with Lord Krishna as your taxi driver, and get a lecture on why you have to do what you don’t want to do.
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U4eeeahhh
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:04pmtractor boy – 19.6% of Americans are not affiliated, the Nones as Pew Reserach calls them. 3% are Athesits but it’s the 13.6% the billboard reaches out to to let the questioning know that abandoning the supernatural and myths is OK. 76% of American doctors may call themselves Christian, that does not mean they believe in the same version of god as you do and by your own admission 70% of scientists don’t. Most Americans are cultural christians, they parents called themselves christian so they do. It is the course or less resistance since Atheist and non-believers are ridiculed and hated by many like Hannnity and O’Reilly
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:08pmHey DEAVON, What thing of importance do you have as fact in these areas, the theory of evolution has 8 known defects, the theory of the big bang, I don’t even know how big a guess that is? Just asking………Anyway, I have a feeling you are a bit of a control freak, as I am, and you want soild answers in life? I think most Atheist would share this trait?…….I know I have tried to force doors open in my life, did the same things others have done, the same way, but with different results, and in other areas of life, doors have been opened, and I walk right through, you guys chaulk this stuff up to being coinidence, I can’t just throw these things out as just that, I say it’s part of the mystery of God…….Plus I look at the magesty of life and the universe around us, and say How can’t there be a God…..I also think you are part of Gods plan…..notice how we are debating his mystery, wouldn’t happen if you were not a part?……God Bless friend
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justangry
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:21amHannity is a dumbass. So is Billy Hallowell. Christian and Jewish Supreme Court Justices are responsible for the made up war on Christmas, NOT ATHEISTS. When anyone can provide ONE atheist that has sat on the SCOTUS/Federal Courts then you can say that atheists are responsible. Until then blame who is actually responsible. I’m guessing Jewish SCOTUS’s have been 100% for the separation of church and state. (Not because they’re Jewish, but because all the Jewish Justices have been liberal/progressive idiots) Probably 40-60% of the Christian Justices have ruled this way. Blame who is responsible. Atheist have had absolutely NO POWER in this country AT ALL.
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fdraiden
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:23pmAnd you are an ignoramus!
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justangry
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:47pmOK name ONE atheist that has ever sat on the Supreme or Federal Court. Can you? Who or what government entity has solely ruled that the establishment clause of the first amendment is interpreted the way it is today? I do expect crickets from the dimwit lobbing “ignoramus” insults. It’s a bullsh*t narrative. In essence, it’s just as much of a bogus narrative as the leftist anti-gun propaganda after each mass murder. They both place the blame on something that has NOTHING to do with it. Atheists are a powerless group in this country. Not only that, we are split because we have such a wide range of political views. I, for one, think the courts are wrong and will gladly work side by side with the religious folks to protect their freedom. Of course, many here wouldn’t accept that because I’m godless vermin to them. The bottom line is the Supreme Court, not atheists have waged the ‘so called’ war on Christmas and atheists are not some homogenous group of people that want to strip you of your religious freedom. I just want people to reject the right wing media’s (FOX) false narrative because it’s wrong. There is absolutely no evidence that atheists are responsible for the war on Christmas. I recognize there are SOME (mostly on the left) that are vindictive, cruel and militant, but I do believe those are the minority. There’s millions of atheists in this country and only a few atheists (and often the same ones) that actually make the news.
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COFemale
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:21amSilverman believes he is really helping atheist come out of the closet. In other words he is saying they are mental cases from the gitgo. If you are solid in your non belief, you should have no problem stating your convictions. He thinks that children are forced to follow their parents religious beliefs and they should have the freedom to not believe. Parents bring up the children in their faith, it is not a punishment; although I must admit sitting in the pew for an hour got boring at times and I felt it was a punishment. I loved when we sang, at least I got to participate.
Silverman is just a pissed off Jew and he wants to punish believers for his tainted view of God.
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DesertRose1960
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:39amHaving to defend yourself constantly from finger wagging people who presume your disbelief in God makes you a mental case is reason enough for some perfectly balanced, rational people to stay in the closet rather than being lectured by a petulant “Christian”. Having someone else shove their faith down your throat is enough to make others rebel. I am a believer, but I want to be left to practice with my family and MY faith community. I don’t want to be forced into practicing some monsterous bastard of the sacred, secular and the pagan that Fox keeps shovelling. Do what Jesus says, go home, shut the door, draw the curtains and pray. God will hear you. And if you don’t believe in God, you should be free to go about the world without having to make public declarations of a faith you don’t share. The person being mean and narcissistic is Sean Hannity. Before you talk about Jews and tainted views of God, remember, Jesus was a Jew. Christmas trees are pagan fertility symbols. Reindeer fly by “magic”. Elves are “magic” folk. This has NOTHING to do with Jesus.
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Remember_Benghazi
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:45am“He thinks that children are forced to follow their parents religious beliefs…”
Aren’t they? Can you provide another reason why the great majority Christian children are born from Christian parents? Parents indoctrinate their children while they are young and those lovely critical-thinking skills aren’t fully developed. Maybe it’s not literally forced but something along the lines of blind acceptance of that belief.
Many people go through life without questioning how they know what they know. I think people like Silverman want religious people to have a healthy inspection into their beliefs. Is that such a terrible thing? Shouldn’t you have good, personal reasons for why you believe in something and not just because your parents raised you a certain way or because a book says so?
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by faith
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:26pmRemember_Benghazi
“He thinks that children are forced to follow their parents religious beliefs…”
Aren’t they? Can you provide another reason why the great majority Christian children are born from Christian parents?
The same thing can be said about atheist. The great majority of atheist are born from atheist parents.
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red1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:34pmCOFemale is correct. Atheists are not shy about expressing their opinion. They are more evangelical than all but the most devout Christian. I am not sure what Silverman’s agenda is but it is not what he claims it to be. I have been an atheist since I was 12 and have never felt any pressure to remain silent. If I had to guess what animates Silverman, I would say that it is that he enjoys hurting people.
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Greenwood
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:39pmREMEMBER_BENGHAZI……”Many people go through life without questioning how they know what they know. …….. Shouldn’t you have good, personal reasons for why you believe in something and not just because your parents raised you a certain way or because a book says so?”
1 John 4:1 Beloved one, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth to the world.
or like Thomas Jefferson said “Question with Boldness”………………………..
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brother_ed
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 1:23pm@DESERTROSE
For the most part, I agree with you.
There is a difference between bearing testimony and funding fault.
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justangry
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:55pmI hid my disbelief for a long time for the reasons that DesertRose speaks of. I just don’t care what A-holes think about me anymore. If anyone thinks I’m a bad person because I don’t believe, they’re more than welcome to kiss my arse. The people that don’t think like that, and there are VERY few here on the right, are the only people worth the time of day.
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rx4nv
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:12amWhy did they use a picture of the death of Christ? Christmas is a celebration of the birth of Christ. They just want to offend and argue.
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justangry
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:22amThey?
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Remember_Benghazi
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:25amIsn’t the death of Christ a point of pride for you Christians? Doesn’t it mark the point where he supposedly died for your sins, the cornerstone of your religion? Don’t you even wear the torture device around your neck as an homage to that sacrifice? I don’t see how that is offensive or argumentative, when it is merely depicting what you people believe.
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rx4nv
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:51amYes “they”, who else?
Christmas is the celebration of Christ’s birth, thus all the nativity scenes. Easter is the time to celebrate Christ’s triumph over death to pay for our sins, if we do our part. As for the cross on a necklace, some religions embrace that symbol, as for mine, we celebrate his triumph over death, not his death, therefore we do not embrace the cross as a religious symbol.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:56amWhy only Christ? Why do athiests only target Christianity? What about Islam, Buddhists, Shinto, Jews? Why? When I hear a reasonable answer, I will be overjoyed. Until athiests man up and address other religions, I will believe you are not denying the existence of a Creator, you simply hate Christians.
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rx4nv
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:14pmRemember_Benghazi: No one said I was offended to see the picture of Christ, I just asked why they used a picture from another holiday. Why did they not use a picture of the baby Jesus since Christmas is a celebration of His birth? Why does everyone think you have to take offense to everything. That is the problem with our world, everyone wants to offend or be able to claim they are offended. I believe the athiests should be able to hang that ad, just as Christians should be able to hang one too.
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DeavonReye
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:19pmDismayed, if you watched the video, . . . they DO speak against other religions. Why christianity? In this country, christianity is the main religion. It is also a belief system that “believes certain activities are sinful, thus make laws that affect others who don’t agree WITH their religious beliefs”. That is why it SEEMS like they “only attack christianity”.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 12:20pm@Dismayed Veteran, Christians are less likely to stab you in the chest. They’re afraid of Muslims. The other religions are also populated by various racial minorities and they are also afraid of being labeled as racists. While it is safer to mock Christians, the majority of atheists are not atheists but merely anti Christian bigots. While I myself may or may not be Christian, I would rather have Christian neighbors (or Hindu, or Buddhist, etc) than Atheists or Muslims. True Atheists are few and far between, and most true atheists hate the evangelical atheists.
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