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Here’s the Audio of the NY Gov. Talking Gun Control: ‘Confiscation Could Be an Option’

Dec. 21, 2012 1:55pm Becket Adams

Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D-N.Y.) said Thursday that all options, including confiscation and “mandatory sales to the state,” would be on the table next month when the New York State Legislature debates new gun control measures. The comments were specifically aimed at what might happen should stricter rules be imposed on “assault” weapons and high-capacity magazines.

The governor said he plans on proposing a package of gun legislation in his State of the State address on Jan. 9.

“There’s a big difference of opinion on these issues,” Gov. Cuomo said today during a radio interview with Albany’s WGDJ-AM.

Mr. Cuomo explained that because gun control hasn’t been a recent topic of discussion in the capital, he has chosen to reach out to lawmakers to see where they stand on the issue before he submits his final proposal.

The governor also explained that he would focus his attention on changing state laws regarding the possession of what the media confusingly calls “assault weapons” (“there’s no real definition of the term,” the Washington Examiner’s Tim Carney notes) and high-capacity ammunition magazines.

New York’s existing ban on those items has “more holes than Swiss cheese,” said the governor.

“I don’t think legitimate sportsmen are going to say, ‘I need an assault weapon to go hunting,’” he said.

However, he was also careful to note that he owns and regularly hunts with a shotgun, saying, “There is a balance here — I understand the rights of gun owners; I understand the rights of hunters.”

He also noted that some “assault” weapons bans have in the past been “cosmetic.”

During the course of the interview, Gov. Cuomo didn’t outline any specific gun control measures, but he did say the following: “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”

He also dismissed rumors that lawmakers would be called back to Albany next week for a emergency session dedicated to the subject of gun control.

“The only thing that’s going to happen in the next few days is Christmas,” he said.

Although the Democrat-controlled New York Assembly has in the past voted for several gun control measures, these bills were all DOA once they made their way to the Republican-controlled Senate.

However, starting next month, the Senate will be run by a combination of Republicans and what the New York Times refers to as “a breakaway faction of Democrats.”

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Comments (265)

blackbean
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:30pm
Go ahead Cuomo, or whatever your name is, as it will entice the criminals to move out of my state to yours for the easy pickings.

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- hatchetjob
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:36pm
  The criminals have to be rubbing their hands together and smiling from ear to ear.
  
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- copatriots
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:41pm
  Makes one wonder in whose hands these confiscated guns would end up. I’m guessing the NWPP since they will become 0′s civilian army along with union thugs.
  
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- ginger100
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:53pm
  mid evil days are coming and we will be ruled by over lords
  
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- cosette
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:30pm
  Earth to Mario. I suggest you avail yourself a copy of the bill of rights paying particular attention to the second amendment. The government, be it local, state or federal has no constitutional authority to “confiscate” arms from the citizenry. There is no force on earth, short of violent force that can legally disarm any legally armed citizen. It’s amazing to me that anybody in your level of the government wouldn’t know that, your membership in the democrat party notwithstanding.
  
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- Lotus503
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:46pm
  I wonder just how many fools there are out there for Mr. Cuomo to hire that are stupid enough to want the job of disarming the people of this country?
  
  Typical political trash talking….
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:55pm
  The Communist Chinese government, via its state-run media front Xinhua, has called for Americans to be disarmed, arguing that the Sandy Hook school massacre demands “no delay for U.S. gun control.”
  Calls on Obama to exploit the tragedy to push his gun control agenda, adding that his lame duck situation represents “the best position to promote it,” while blaming the National Rifle Association for curtailing previous attempts to regulate firearms in the United States.
  
  The Chinese, Russia, Communist South America and Islamic countries don’t want the USA’s citizens to have guns. Why do you think that is?
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:27pm
  Lol Queermo ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:05pm
  Is it me or does Queermo look like a Zombie….maybe the Zombie apocalypse is on the horizon.
  
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- fastfacts
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:12pm
  Did you hear his good buddy Bloomberg today. He said he has been the greatest defender of the 2nd Amendment: http://www.thedailycandidate.com/video/2012/dec/bloomberg_actions_shooting.html
  
  Who actually believes that?
  
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- 226crimsontrace
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:04pm
  come and get them you communist pig, I’ll be waiting
  
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- iammpc
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:20pm
  Could someone help me understand why in 2009, 34,000 people were killed in motor vehicle accidents but not one congressman wanted legislation to outlaw vehicles.
  Guns don’t kill people, nor do vehicles. People kill people.
  
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- Soulfire1975
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 4:34am
  What an idiot, he doesn’t understand peoples right because the right to have weapons is to protect ourselves from people like him. Moron,
  
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- December22
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:48am
  These people are fools, do they really think that they will be able to confiscate the guns of criminals.
  
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- auhunter
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:11pm
  Yes and from every other state, by the way Gov, how’s those gun laws in NYC working out for you. Oh, you didn’t know, NYC is about tied with Chicago as the most corrupt and the highest crime rate in the nation involving guns. Now let’s turn back the clock to 1982, Kennesaw, Georgia enacted law mandating that every head of household own a gun, with the exception of those to poor to purchase one or physically or mentally disabled. FOUR murders since then, with 3 being committed by the same man, an “a non resident”.
  
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- Freelyn
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:41pm
  BRING IT ANDY!!!! MY COLD DEAD HANDS, COMES FIRST TO MIND.
  Amendment II
  
  “A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, ”
  
  HERE COMES THE OPERATIONAL CLAUSE…………………
  
  “the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
  
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- propel7
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 5:36pm
  “ARMS” are for WAR. Hunting has NOTHING to do with WHY we have a 2nd Amendment. The 2nd amendment ONLY exists to thwart politicians that try to make themselves God by loading as much debt on all the masses as possible in an attempt to destroy everything, thin king that they can easily CHANGE what BLOOD bought. Regardless how much debt they falsley put upon the People, they WILL NOT succeed in taking the 2nd amendment without being pout out of their misery. Just like rabid dogs must be put down. A RABID govt. MUST also be put down.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:20pm
  The funny part of all of this is, where do they think the criminals will target first, which cities first? All the big, wealthy cities in NY! Especially the areas populated by rich, liberal people with no way to protect themselves. The criminals will be the only ones with weapons! Well done people of NY for voting left.
  
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- merton42
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:49am
  I truely hope Mr. Coumo does not go the route of Confiscation. This might work in NY, where NYers will probably bend over but some other Idiot politician may try it elsewhere and it not go over VERY WELL!
  
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- jim375
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:33pm
  yep…. and it will only leave people who cant afford to move out of new york or hire private security like he and bloomberg have vulnerable
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:55pm
  Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson’s “Commonplace Book,” 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
  
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- ConserveUSA38
  Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:10pm
  This guy is nuts. Ever since they mentioned doing ANYTHING to the gun laws….the gun sales have gone thru the roof! And in some ways this is a great thing and in another way they just made all the nuts out there go buy a lot of guns too. Responsible gun owners of course bought guns to protect their rights. But by doing this a lot of unstable people also just bought guns who probably should not have them. I do not think it is is a coincidence that there are 3 shootings so far today. I am a proud member of the NRA and believe in the constitution. The political arena has no one else to blame but themselves here. Government should have stayed out of this. What part of LESS GOVERNMENT DO THEY NOT GET???
  
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Ceefour
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:28pm
And what are those anti constitution weasels going to do when no one turns in their guns? Over night hundreds of thousands of honest,taxpaying citizens become felons. I reckon thats when the party starts…..

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- Blacktooth
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:50pm
  We do live in interesting times. The potential for a complete breakdown of society is very evident.
  
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- Americanius
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:27pm
  Police state and Warsaw Ghetto all over again.
  
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- jerryod1627
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:14pm
  When the government start’s attempting to consficate our weapons all hell will break loose and given the fact that there is a vast number of freedom loving american’s who own guns I suspect that this is the time that we will take back our country. If we are “united” and stand together we will not be defeated!
  
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- MetalPatriot
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 3:35pm
  C4…
  
  That’s why Homeland “Security” has purchased so many 5.56/.223 and hollow points this year.
  
  Listen, the people that are “in” on this one world agenda (21) know it and deny it specifically as a deflector.
  
  I’m scared, but I’m not going down without firing back.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:41pm
  I would rather have peace…but not at the risk of our freedoms. Give me liberty or give me death…..Some will come down with me though.
  
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raderby
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:27pm
Cuomo is a putz. I am getting out of the POS state of NY soon. (due to move within months to plains)

NY has fallen long ago – 25% of the workforce is union or union and works for gov’t. Dead zone. Luckily, I am way north and west in the state, so my guess is that the people around here will…?? They will resist quite strongly to mr. putz’s ideas. Note that large areas of NYS go red, not blue. The red areas will be heating up barrels.

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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:27pm
Sonny Cuomo, just more proof that the nut did not fall far from the tree. Mario was the newly elected governor when I lived in Upstate, NY. He was wacky enough back then. Just like a leopard, Sonny cannot change his spots to save his life.

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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:33pm
  Hi RJJ,
  
  Won’t be long and only criminals, the poor, jailers and politicians will be left there.
  
  Everyone else is going to leave.
- biohazard23
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:54pm
  Leave it to them. Hi, Monk!
  
  Have a great weekend, gentlemen. :)
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:59pm
  Hi MONK, I enjoyed it when I lived up in the northern part of the state. Actually, a lot of conservatives up there. I suppose that would explain the local disgust for the then governor. They pretty well expected Mario to become tyrant.
  You are wise with your observations there too. As one of the posts above, he expects the criminals to move from his state to NY for the easy pickins. Its like attracting the homeless with huge giveaway programs.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:01pm
  Why, thank you BIO. The same for you as well.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:10pm
  What was that movie where they made NYC one big prison in the future? Coming soon.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:12pm
  “Escape from New York (1981)”
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:49pm
  @Monk…Politicians are Criminals!
  
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- brubs
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:54am
  I would hope that the criminals, the poor, jailers and politicians will be the ones leaving, we are the ones with the guns.
  
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- mr. parker
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 4:29pm
  Andy Cuomo the Huomo. I was proud of my son when he knocked him on his ass in a law school basketball game.
  
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frogg
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:24pm
They can confiscate my guns “One ullet at a time!!!!!!” Check out http://www.rescueourconstitution.com/

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THX-1138
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:23pm
“There is a balance here — I understand the rights of gun owners; I understand the rights of hunters.”

Um, no, you don’t.

But you will.

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- yougottabekidding
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:19pm
  What does – I swear and affirm that I will defend the constitution of the United States mean?
  
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- cosette
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:33pm
  @ Yougottabekidding…. To a democrat..Nothing.
  
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- revron
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:01pm
  Didn’t you know that the 2nd amendment applies to hunters only? Its not the bear in the woods we need to worry about but the beast in Washington. I’m sure Germany started out well intentioned too.
  
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- integrican
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:34pm
  @ Revron. I’m sure that Germany did NOT start out well intentioned, as I am sure the Obama clan is NOT well intentioned. Actually, they eerily similar.
  
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- 226crimsontrace
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:08pm
  Hunting is a privilige, not a right
  
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Publius
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:22pm
I will resist with lethal force.

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- justangry
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:43pm
  It’s either that or die like a lamb. If they take away your guns, they’ll more and likely begin the genocide next. It’s happened too often throughout history to think it won’t happen again. Every one of them that would enforce a weapons ban has family members that are soft targets. Destroy the morale of the authoritarians and they’ll quit fighting.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:51pm
  Very very little body armor will stop a rifle round from a hunting rifle. Hunting rifles are also designed to kill animals quickly that are much larger than a man, so massive tissue damage. There are 80+ million gun owners in the country, if only 10% (1 out of every 10) decided it was worth dying for? That is an army of 8 million snipers, most with high powered long range training. What sort of body armor (class IV) would every bureaucrat be willing to wear at all times?
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:57pm
  @Just,
  
  I think you hit a key point. I question how many of those who are prepared to resist really understand what it means to fight a guerilla war. If we present ourselves on the battlefield in full regalia and cannon we will be slaughtered. The only way a resistance to the state would work is if the engagements occur on our terms. Furthermore, the weakness of the “enemy” is that they live among us. They don’t retreat behind FEBA (Fowrard Edge Battle Area) after an operation. I question if we will have the capacity to conduct resistance on those terms. This is all hypothetical of course. :-)
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:01pm
  @CAV,
  
  Class IV is heavy too. Mobility is severely hampered. Even still it is pretty limited in coverage. You can get III and IIIA for all parts of your body but IV is usually chest and back plates. My IV can stop M2 30-06 AP rounds…it’s the real deal. However, if you shoot me in the Head, Pelvis, Legs, Arms, Neck, I’m screwed. As you point out you’re talking about thousands of scoped rifles. I’m pretty sure they’ll find squishy spots.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:03pm
  @Roth,
  
  Quite so. Always make the confrontation happen on your terms. A long standing and enduring strategy through the ages. If you can force the confrontation on your terms, in your chosen field of battle, with full initiative on your side, you can take down a much larger and less prepared force.
  
  These people have huge vulnerabilities. In any given neighborhood you won’t find houses filled row to row with cops. They are heavily outnumbered in any given area, and everybody from that area knows or can quickly find out where they live. And wouldn’t you know it, we look exactly the same as the regular disarmed sheep, when walking down the sidewalk.
  
  As you say, all hypothetical.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:16pm
  @Ghost/Just,
  
  You bring up an interesting point about blending in. The ability to gather intelligence would be almost unrestrained. However, alluding to something Just posted below. That advantage works both ways. The collectivists obviously wouldn’t do one second of trigger time, BUT I’d wager that they would be dropping dimes like nobody’s business. We’d have to find some way of stopping the Torries from sabotaging things. Hypothetically.
  
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- MoseyAlong
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:29pm
  No reason to be Hypothetical, Roth. It’s just that laws don’t seize guns, people do.
  
  Those people that the gov’t is relying on to take those guns won’t do it. Those lawmakers are in for a surprise if they make that powergrab.
  
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- biohazard23
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:30pm
  @Ghost and @Roth, if the Afghans could methodically drive out the Russians (and now us), why couldn’t we adopt some of their strategies and methods of resistance, too? Hypothetically, of course.
  
  Hey, I’m just a girl with no military experience so I’m just asking. I may be way out in right field with that, but I was just wondering.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:28pm
  BIOHAZ…
  
  Not sure if Suicide Vests, random kidnappings, landmines where our children play, and blackmailing our own citizens is really our style?
  
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m14guy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:19pm
Wow, there is so much here that defines the marxist statist. He just about laid it all out. Just listen to what they say and you will hear what they truly are. Illegal confiscation of private property, telling us what we need (oh, do they love that one) and what we don’t need. Laying down the “hunter” requirements…it’s all there. This will end up being a defining moment for the country and could start the ascension of States rights over the Statist demands. Hang on boys & girls this could get real messy for the left as they smell blood. I expect they will over-reach in their giddiness and they will not be happy with the result. Everyday I give thanks that brilliant people like him have been put on this earth to manage my affairs for me. I am humbled by their deep intellect and await the next decree so that I may doff my cap and avert me eyes to their greatness.

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The_Jerk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:19pm
This is exactly why our Founders gave us the 2nd Amendment. They knew that these power hungry fools would one day try to destroy their creation.

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- Dkoonz
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:17pm
  that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the rightof the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government.
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:18pm
This kind of seals my thoughts on this. They’ve gone mad with power and see their utopian goals in sight, and are now doing a hard court press without regard to what anybody else thinks. The problem is, they went mad at precisely the topic they should have exercised restraint regarding; firearms. They don’t see a possibility of loss, because they are blind with power. They don’t realize that if there is one principle most Americans agree on, whether R, D, independent, or Libertarian, it’s that we won’t give up our firearms and we will fight to keep them.

And they clearly don’t realize that we outnumber them by 80 to 100: 1.

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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:33pm
  I truly hope they attempt to follow through. The masks come off. Everyone picks sides. You’ll have those who out themselves as full on statists. The police will have to pick sides. Suddenly that fellow that lives down the street with the daughter that goes to school with your kid is kicking in your door to collect the weapons. The reality people had created for themselves will be removed. People will have to decide if they will resist or like sheep willing walk up the chute to serfdom. Governors and state legislatures will have to decide if they will be absorbed by the collective or if they believe in the 10th Amendment.
  
  Everything will become much much clearer. Please Governor and VP Biden….please go for it!
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:39pm
  Pry My BIBLE and My GUN from My COLD DEAD HAND!!!
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:51pm
  @Roth
  
  Quite so, same thoughts. The one hobbling weapon they’ve had against “us” for decades has been the moral ambiguity, the squishyness, the absolute inability to pin them down to specifics all the while they worked in the background. A full on confiscation would provide the exact black and white clarity of moral purpose that you allude to. That’s would be a huge tactical error on their part.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:04am
  @Top_Contributor
  “faithful Blaze posters continue to threaten to shoot people for no good reason”
  You keep up that stinkin thinkin and pryin lyin, we’ll just have to prove you right!
  
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Top_Contributor
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:18pm
Four dead in a PA mass shooting that occurred during the NRA speech.

Just keep talking.

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- hatchetjob
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:24pm
  I heard it also on the 2:00 radio news. The gunman is dead – hooray!
  
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- THX-1138
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:26pm
  Men with GUNS stopped the shooter. As usual. Start Thinking.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:31pm
  Nice reporting there Porky Chop.
  
  Loved the links….
  
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- alinmatt
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:32pm
  If you think guns are the problem, what will you do when psychos resort to improvised explosives to do their killing.
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:33pm
  The story is at Drudge. Nothing about it at Fox.
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:50pm
  talk talk talk. meanwhile, faithful Blaze posters continue to threaten to shoot people for no good reason. what a shameful, violent community here. ugly.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:00pm
  @Top_Contributor
  “faithful Blaze posters continue to threaten to shoot people for no good reason”
  
  I’d like to see an example of that from a “faithful Blaze poster” here (not a troll pretending).
  
  Come on back… after all, you still got 2 hours left.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:04pm
  TOP_CONTRIBUTOR, Look up the stats, how many died in traffic accidents, of cancer, or of heat disease? Far, far more. All while many crimes were stopped by the armed citizen. The greatest weapon to have is one’s mind.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:05pm
  If somebody taking away your rights is not enough for you to engage them in defensive action, Top, they’re you’re a coward and not even half a man.
  
  I suspect that your kind has always stood on the sidelines, mocking, while your masters try to trample dissenters to tyranny.
  
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- alinmatt
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:05pm
  @top, I’m asking you a serious question. Do you honestly think taking away guns will help? There are far more destructive options out there than a gun.
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:08pm
  Just saw a funny (and spot on) Onion headline: NRA calls for end to childhood obesity by putting McDonalds in every school
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:22pm
  TOP & The Onion..
  
  what a pair.
  
  McDonalds would be a great analogy if it were re-arranged…
  
  “NRA wants to combat childhood obesity by having Pepto-Bismol available in all schools in case some nut job brings McDonalds in for everyone”
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:21pm
  @Top_Contributor
  
  Well…. it’s after 5pm.
  
  http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+fred+flintstone+5+oclock++work+whistle&mid=9E4697A57DDA87600BA99E4697A57DDA87600BA9&view=detail&FORM=VIRE1
  
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Larry E
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:17pm
Yup and confiscation would work in NY because all the legal guns are registered, and SCOTUS has said that criminals can’t be required to register theirs because of something about self incrimination. That way the honest citizens who obey the laws would be hurt but not the criminals, and others who intend harm to others. Mafia Andy is so smart I’m amazed his head doesn’t explode from all the brains….

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scrapadapolis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:16pm
First of all the small town I live in we know basicly who we are and what we have.Local police will not even dare take our guns.But know this Government will have alot of positions to fill..

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jman-6
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:15pm
Cuomo go ahead and confiscate or mandatory buyback (same thing) I dare you! When the armed insurrection commences let me know how that worked out!!

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- Teufel Hunden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:29pm
  Folks talk a good game until push comes to shove, and then fold like a house of cards. You have to be willing to die, on the spot, RFN, when throwing challenges like “I dare you”. It’s easy to sit back in the safety of ones homes and make anonymous posts threatening retaliation to those who would dare confiscate weapons, but turn on the light, and watch how many internet warriors scurry for safety.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:47pm
  @Hunden,
  
  You are very correct. I suspect millions will do just as you say. Looking down the barrel of a gun can be a life changing experience. Of course, that works both ways. I wonder how many cops, ATF agents, DHS, TSA, FBI thugs will fold as well. Pretty fun when you get to mace, truncheon, tazer, and shoot the serfs one at a time when you have 5 buddies. Wonder how many will get gully when there are 20, 30, 100, 200 armed, trained men that are willing to die for something larger than themselves? We don’t need millions that don’t fold. A few thousand would make the point. Methinks many of those cops won’t pick up the fight. Those that do, many will fold. Those that stay? Well, that’s why they play the game. If I go down, then let it be for the chance to secure freedom for my children. If they go down, I’ll wager that I’ve already stepped over better men before.
  
  But to echo you’re point, you are absolutely correct. Like I said, the masks will come off. True colors will come out.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:48pm
  I’ve seen live fire, Teufel. Danger exists, however, fear is self generated.
  
  You clearly underestimate the resolve out here in flyover country. That’s fine, in fact, it’s a heartening sign. It shows that you folks clearly are underestimating your perceived foe while being overconfident of your own strength and position. From this point forward Sun Tzu’s wisdom comes into play.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:59pm
  That is why soon as you start reading or hearing about raids on the homes of gun owners, anybody serious about their rights will not wait until their house is next. Doesn’t matter if it is in your state or not. Once one state begins, the others will follow and likely the ATF will be at the forefront. We already know they have no qualms killing civilians and their families.
  
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- Elena2010
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:03pm
  Dunno Devil Dog, Drudge has a story up that says one outlet has orders for 3-1/2 years worth of mags in 3 days time. Somebody is stocking up.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:12pm
  @Teufel Hunden, there are 80+ million gun owners in the US, if only 1 in 10 get the guts up enough to resist that is an army of 8 million. 1 in 20 that is an army of 4 million. There are 4.5 million gun owners in the State of New York. If only 1 out of 20 New York State gun owners violently resist that is an army of 225,000 vs somewhere around 50,000 law enforcement officers. Out numbered, outgunned.
  
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All Pro
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:12pm
I wonder what happens if they can’t find the weapons and the owner refuses to tell them where they are. I have about twenty thousand dollars invested in them and I have no intention of surrendering my only means of self defense.

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- Elena2010
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:41pm
  Roger that — I live on the border w/Mexico. Trouble is seconds away and the police half an hour.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:03pm
  They wont ask for them, they will kick your door in the same way they do with drug suspects. Any wrong move on your part or your family’s and they will kill. afterward they will tear your house apart and display anything they find as a trophy live on TV.
  
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- All Pro
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:17pm
  @WarMunger_Al
  I guess at that point I’ll be glad I own a night scope, an AR10 carbine and an AR10 SASS and where I am you can’t get at me without me having a lot of advanced warning. And all this time I thought had fought communists in south east Asia so that I wouldn’t have to fight them here. End sarcasm.
  In my best Yoda voice, “End well this will not.”
  
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- Americanius
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:29pm
  The same thing that happens now with the ATF, they rip your home apart.
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:31pm
  ALL PRO, God bless Yoda.
  
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- Tractorboy
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 4:28pm
  In Rochester NY the police blew a guys house up, making it unlivable, he was on probation for DWI.. after doing a check they found a pipe bomb, so their answer was to evacuate the neighbors and blow the guy’s house up. BTW Rochester is where little Andy Como’s second in command lives.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:12pm
Hey .. where are those leftist fascist trolls who said that no one is talking about coming to get your weapons? We’re not paranoid, we just know you. We know exactly what you are like and what you will try and get away with.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:15pm
  Bngo!
  
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- momrules
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:21pm
  Exacyly Cavallo……. They are strangely quiet right now. I doubt they will show up on this story at all.
  
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jjoy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:11pm
“Confiscation could be an option”.

It will be interesting to see if the citizens of the state of New York will “knuckle under” and let their guns be “confiscated”.., or whether they will be willing to excercize a few “options” of their own…

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- RANGER1965
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:14pm
  Escape from New York.
  
  You’re running out of time.
  
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- lookes2003
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:15pm
  Well… I don’t know what will happen in New York but I do know what would happen in Idaho!
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:18pm
  And we certainly hope that the good NY governor comes to VA to show our “gubbamint” types how to conduct those confiscatory raids on personal residences.
  
  Governor, please come to SE VA first so that we can show you how “expensive” your idiotic theory is!
  
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- RTFM
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:29pm
  Confiscation is unacceptable.. Everyone needs to stand together. If all gun owners said NO !! That would be the end of it. No need to get violent at all. The government cannot arrest millions of people..
  
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- Popp40
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:36pm
  @Johnpaulkuchtajr…..I went to a outdoor/local gun shop here in Richmond VA yesterday at around 12 noon…and it was PACKED. Everyone was at the gun cases and there was a long line just to do the background check. I spoke with one of the guys who worked there and he said they sold over 400 guns on Monday and Tuesday. We also have a very nice gun range here as wel and they normally have their walls filled with rifles….all of the walls were empty and so was their ammo supply. The sad thing about that is this gun range is one of the largest ammo suppliers east of the Mississippi. There is a gun show this weekend in Richmond and they are already telling people to get there way before it open because the line will be extremely long just to get in.
  
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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:49pm
  Hey Pop,
  
  I hope they intend to pay the gun confiscators a bucketful of money.
  
  They’ll earn every cent here in VA!
  
  Come see me when your in VB!
  
  “Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- RTFM
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:56pm
  @POPP40 My friend is an FFL dealer He sold all 10 AR15s he had in stock last night. In 2 hours. I remember a few weeks ago he was worried about his sales numbers. Well no longer every time the Obamunist opens his mouth gun sales sky rocket..
  
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- All Pro
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:30pm
  People in the city will give in so fast they’ll bruise they’re knees. Out here in the country where I live the blood will flow like a river. I really wish I had sold this house and moved to Texas or New Mexico two years go when I wanted to. It’s to late now. I live at the top of a mountain. All I can do is establish a perimeter. The real question is whether or not anyone will step up to help us.
  
  First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
  Because I was not a Socialist.
  
  Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
  Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
  
  Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
  Because I was not a Jew.
  
  Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.
  
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lookes2003
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:09pm
They are going to end up forcing The People to exercise the 2nd amendment to protect the 2nd amendment. I hope they know that. If you let the government confiscate your weapons you are a fool. Might as well just use them on yourself.

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RightUnite
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:08pm
Pppffffttt! It’ll never, ever happen. There are tooo many Oathkeepers that will not allow it.

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- johnpaulkuchtajr
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:28pm
  Stay vigilant, my friend, stay vigilant!
  
  I worry about today’s Army when we see a Muslim jihadist kill 13 heroes and it’s called “Workplace Violence” by the chain of command.
  
  Then there was that training manual revealed last week that encourages soldiers to not address pedophilia with their Afghan Army associates.
  
  I think that Obama, et al, have sucker punched the military for so long that I fully expect that our Army of today would turn their guns on US citizens if ordered to do so by a corrupt upper echelon.
  
  ‘Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:10pm
  there are not enough oath keepers. The majority of Police are not oath keepers, they protect each other, but not the public. Unless the oath keepers are willing to use force against their fellow officers, they will not be able to anything except for abstaining from the confiscations themselves, as demonstrated in Katrina. The police will enforce any law that gets passed. They will say it is not their job to pick and choose which law they will enforce…It is sad but true. The real hope comes from the freedom states and rural police forces who I think will stand against this insanity, but the police in the cities already enforce illegal laws, like the random pat down/harassment’s they do daily in NYC
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 3:15pm
  USCG, FEMA or DHS did not take the Twenty-nine Palms questionnaire. Neither did my local Deputy Douche Bag. Do they swear to defend and uphold the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic?
  
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- sajack
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:28pm
  @Doug. You are wrong about the USCG and DHS. We took the same oath that military officers take. You could probably count on one hand those that would follow an order to deprive a citizen of their 2nd Amendment Rights, most are VERY conservative.
  
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- smv803
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:13am
  Please remember…if the oath keepers are Christians, they will not turn. Please Spread the Gospel; It’s now more important than ever. Thou shall not kill, but I will not comply either and if push came to shove….
  
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All Pro
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:07pm
One if by land. Two if by sea.

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momrules
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:07pm
I do believe that the liberal elitists WANT a civil war. They have ginned up their anti gun talk to the point they are talking openly about what I believe is their real plan, confiscation.

As harsh as this sounds the Newtown murders were a gift to these antiAmerican communists.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:17pm
  Mom, only if somebody else fights it for them.
  
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- momrules
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:30pm
  True RJJ but they have found many, many people willing to commit sexual assault as a TSA agent so I have no doubt they will be able to find those willing to do more of their dirty work. The elitists will be safe behind gated walls thinking that keeps their hands clean when people die.
  
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- Popp40
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:37pm
  @Momrules….all they have to do is turn to the Occupy Wallstreet crowd….there are your useless idiots.
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:37pm
  @RJ,
  
  Bingo!!!! Not a one of the collectivists would ever dare stand a post. That’s what the paid muscle is for. Police, ATF, FBI, DHS, TSA, etc. Again, why do you supposed they bought enough bullets to put five rounds in every man woman and child in this country? Hmmmmm.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:47pm
  @RJJ, You know there’s enough of them that will fight for them. There will always be people like that. I’m sure you’ve seen them here, in the military and on the police force. Of course they all have families that live among us. The elitists all have children in Ivy league schools. All soft targets.
  
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Landon410
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:06pm
Confiscation would lead to bad bad things…… bad….

why do all those gun manufacturers stay in that God forsaken state? move out to the central part of the country with lower cost of living and more cooperative state goverments, we’ll make it easier on your to employee people and make guns

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:01pm
And so the acceleration of gun confiscation begins, it will happen on city, county, state and ultimately on the Federal level as well; complete disarmament of the people for a tyrannical government to rise.

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DougHuffman
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:00pm
“Need” is not within public or legislative purview. FOAD Cuomo “From my cold, dead hands” works for me.

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kaydeebeau
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:00pm
OK – fine Cuomo – when you can guarantee me that all of the criminal elements of society have surrendered their guns and somehow see the light and stop being bent upon being criminals, then we can talk…

IDIOT!!!

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- Cavallo
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:13pm
  Never negotiate with the fascists. They’ll always lie and oppress. The second you drop your self defense is the second they slap you in chains or murder you.
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:21pm
  Right on, the criminals’ wildest dreams are coming true.
  
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- Popp40
  Posted on December 21, 2012 at 2:22pm
  Cuomo and all the other governmental officials, including the Pres. and Judges need to give up their armed security detail and any weapons they have as well. Plus, they need to ensure that countries like China…who by the way is calling for all American citizens to give up their arms…I wonder why….give up their guns as well.
  
  Someone needs to tell these dumb politicians and the uneducated that the 2nd admen had nothing to do with hunting but deals with our ability to protect ourselves…from both foriegn and domestic threats.
  
  Wake up people….
  
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