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mtonepa
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:11pmSo the tool is saying that it is the NRAs fault? How about it is the shooters fault. They want to make sure that the lefty Hollywood chumps don’t have to answer for violence in America.
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bukowski72
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:50amStupid NRA idea — more guns at schools.
There was an armed Sheriff at Columbine who didn’t stop anything.
Pontiaku
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:34am@bukowski72
There were exiting gun ban laws that didn’t stop a damn thing either. I suppose you’re one of those people that can trust school teachers for 8 hours with your child but can’t trust any of those same teachers with a firearm. I suggest you move to another country that can’t trust it’s uncivilized populous with their own means of self defense.
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milez5
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 3:17amwell, I disagree with the notion that there should be armed cops at school—it would make parents feel like they are sending their kids to a police state. But I do think that fully trained, vetted and armed uniformed or plain clothes security guards would be a good idea. Unlike cops, the guards could be told that their only real job is school safety. In other words, if they spot a couple of kids smoking under the bleachers—tobacco or pot–they are to ignore it. They are only to react if there is serious trouble. You can’t tell a cop that but a properly trained guard can make that work just fine.
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Soulfire1975
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 3:39amLet teachers carry guns in school, the only bad thing is they are mostly ********
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 5:01am@Bukowski72….”There was an armed Sheriff at Columbine who didn’t stop anything.”
Exactly, Bukowski! You win the prize! That’s why the teachers should be packing. Do you think one or even two armed security guards can be everywhere when some schools are huge complexes?
Stupid NRA? If there was no NRA, no one but the police and Gov. would be armed. How’d that work out in Russia, China, Cuba, Sudan, Rwanda, Cambodia…etc, etc? If some armed perp’s blast through your front door at 3am do you want to be armed or defensless?
Stupid Bukowski!
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 5:41amTo all Patriots……
As we talk about the nonsense that will be thrown at gun-rights advocates by the communist-indoctrinated left, let us not forget that the land-barrons are gradually, slowly, eating away at our private-property rights.
As I type, various radical groups like the Sierra Club and their friends are buying right-of-ways to link various tracts of forest. They do this under the pretense of giving bears and other far ranging wildlife accesss to more forrest.
This all fits in nicely with the UN’s Agenda-21 program. For those of you who do not read, the plan is for regionalization of the population. Just make all the private property off limits to humans through various schemes.
Re-designation of current public-accessed land to “Wildlands” status will close much of the land-mass in the US to humans.
But…….for now, I guess we have to listen to these little empty-headed twit reporters with their Socialist/Communist educations with no knowledge of what I just typed.
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MittensKittens
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:03amThe NRA is right, gun violence is not the fault of the NRA….and reporters are in the same category as rats, pigeons, and cockroaches!
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TEXASGRANNY73
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:11amYep. I have an opinion. In the state of Texas the prison system does not allow guns inside the prison, only in the pickets. There is a reason for that. REASON. Anyone who cannot reason or understand why that is it is simple. Also posted are signs. You (the public) enter the prison at your own risk as Texas does not deal with inmate demands. Period. Thus. Having noticed if anyone disagrees with the idea of teachers and school authorities packing guns they are the subject of ridicule by those “more knowledgeable”. Considering the reason behind (or up front) if one factors in teachers inside the schools under the same pressure as authorities (guards) who have intense training it is my opinion of course it is not a good idea. (Rave rave holler holler). If anyone can PROVE a teacher could not be overcome by a student of age (what age?) or a disgruntled parent or another teacher or janitor or cafeteria worker on and on the debate could be a closed case. On the other hand outside in the pickets is a whole other ballgame. I don’t know the answers but it seems to me a teacher could have the warning button as banks do, a direct hotline to the outside, etc. You want the schools like mini prisons? The airports are already there..pat down everyone? Come on!!!!
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December22
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:36amSo the NRA who defends the Constitution is at fault?
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Hoax And Chains
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:44amBUKOWSKI72
A well trained guard (or guards), rather than a person with a pistol just trying to make an extra buck, is much better than a gun-free zone. Also, there was an assault weapons ban at the same time as that unfortunate shooting. You missed the NRA’s point, which most of the liberals did because you think a new law will change everything. Keep blaming those “scary” looking guns though, if it works in your sheltered little world.
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LadyGOP
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:24amThe media et al are doing a great job of blaming law abiding gun owners who are responsible for this tragedy. And it is driving gun and ammo sales through the roof which is not quite the effect they hoped for.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:36amTXGranny”. You want the schools like mini prisons? The airports are already there..pat down.”
No, Granny, and I don’t want them shooting galleries, either.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:38amSendTheMeteors
Just for your education, here is a trained shooter, using a revolver to put six shots into the target, reloading, putting six more into the target, and all under………………. THREE SECONDS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLx5ISBXw4
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dcatkin
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:45amGive it a little thought all of you gun hating douche bags. You blame gun violence on the fact that we are allowed by the constitution to bare arms.
In Switzerland most gown adult males are required bt law to own a gun, and they have some of the lowest murder rates in the world. I wonder has logic ever entered you mind at any point in your life?
When a person aims a gun at another person and pulls the trigger, it’s not the gun’s fault its the person’s fault that does the shooting. To remove the freedoms of the people in this country should not be the first place we look every time a tragic evernt happens.
The less freedom we have, the more control the government has, and the closer to communism we are. Russia who knows something about communism says we are already a communist country.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:39amDid you hear about the shooting at the home school, sarc.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:08amIf you hooked up these code pink girls to the lie detector you would find an vast majority of them were molested as a child and Bullied at school.
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minorityconservative2
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:53amWell I have to say the fault was of a gun owner. As I understand it his mother owned the guns. She knew what was going on with him. She should have had them locked up. If he was dangerous enough she should have had them removed from her home. I hate to blame a victim, but I have to be honest. It was his mother’s fault. She was not a responsible gun owner. Don’t take guns away from everyone because one person was irresponsible though. The bad guys will be the only ones with the guns if that happens. Oh yes there will be police, but how many people have a policeman in their back pocket everywhere they go?
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vallivue19
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:56amYes, there were police officers at Columbine. And they did exactly what they were trained to do at the time. Set a perimeter and wait for SWAT. Those days are gone. Now, when there is an active shooter call, cops are trained to run into the building and neutralize the threat immediately. So, an armed police officer at schools, or an off duty officer working a second job, would confront a threat much more differently than the officers at Columbine.
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Touche Turtle
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:21pmbukowski72 . . . . don’t want to have armed guards at the schools because it is useless? Let’s just CLOSE the schools, leave the children at home with their mamas so THEY teach them what they want to know, and then the children will be safe, right? Have you checked out what segment of the population poses the greatest threat to children these days? Most children who are hurt or killed suffer at the hands of their own parents!!!
Perhaps you are one of those who believe the children should be removed from the home at birth and placed in gov’t owned and run schools with little or no contact with their parents! That was tried in Nazi Germany, and it really worked out well!!!
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Roger Bryant
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:40pmbukowski72
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:50am
Stupid NRA idea — more guns at schools.
There was an armed Sheriff at Columbine who didn’t stop anything.
Well Berko,
You said it well, Armed Law didn’t do anything.
Good argument for the armed citizen and the 2nd amendment. Wouldn’t you say so??
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jwright
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:49pmNot every “armed cop” is actually ready to react to that level of violance. If you watch the videos of the mass shootings you notice that the cops spend most of time hiding behind their cars, trees, and any other cover they can find while people inside are dying. This takes training and a mindset that many cops do not have. When my youngest son was still in high school they had a school resource officer who was supposed to be there to protect the kids, but I really wondered then and now who picked him. From talking with him I don’t believe he had the mindset to protect them. He was too interested in being their buddy.
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pdw
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:00pmBack in the 60′s they had already put up bars and posted guards in all DC schools because of the high crime there. This is what happens when people get spoiled and too conformable with their life styles. They think they know what they are talking about. I have always said a desk, paper and ink cause brain damage. Now it is a desk and a computer that brainwashes these lazy fools who have no experience and just talk about what they are spoon fed.
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willsapper
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:30pmSchool security s the only answer. One armed guard and a few teachers willing to carry and this will never happen again. A little common since goes a long way, longer the decision based on biased feelings.
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Mandolin44
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:36pmI believe that everyone who has supported gun control on any level, especially those who have worked to bring about the so called “G free zones” have in fact enabled these types of criminals. It is a tyrant that wants people defenseless, and everyone of these progressive/liberal democrats should be held liable for negligent homicide. SHOUT THAT BACK AT CODE PINK…ITS TIME FOR CODE BLUE (as in gun blue) to make a stand. Yes, I went there! You hear that you liberal pieces of turds? YOU really ARE liable for these deaths, because your NEGLIGENT, CORRUPT, CRIMINAL, TYRANTS, COWARDS, and MURDERERS!
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PPMStudios
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:42pm@ bukowski72
A Deputy showed up after the shooting began and forced Harris and Kiebold to run back into the school and stop shooting the students who were outside.
Get your facts straight….
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VanceUppercut
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:29pmThe NRA, and especially Wayne LaPierre, abandoned any notion that they were just a gun rights group when they barreled headlong into tinfoil hat, conspiracy theory, raving lunatic territory. Ol’ Six-Shootin’ Wayne made a bunch of ridiculous “predictions” when Obama was elected in ’08. Not a single one of them came true, but that hasn’t stopped him from making a bunch of new ones when Obama was re-elected in November. Look out, everybody, the U.N. is comin’ to take your guns! LOL. I’ll leave you with a few lines from “Lullaby For Wayne” by Weezer:
“Never thought you’d graduate
Playing with your guns all day”
“Wayne you know it’s true
There’s nothing you can do
So put them guns away”
“Wayne you know you’re in too deep
All your friends have gone to sleep
Wayne you know you’re in too deep”
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Graywolf
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 3:46pmTexasgranny, I’ll bet you moved here from some liberal bastion like NY, Ca, Ma, Ny or Seattle. You should run, not walk, back there as every time you leave your house you are elbow to elbow with gun tote’n cowboys. and you know they will shoot you at the drop of a hat. If you are a real granny you are old enough to out grow the flower power days and peace signs. Time to become an adult and act your age.
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smv803
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:29pmQuite frankly, If I had school aged children, This would be my cue to homeschool. Parents, get back to basics….get your kids out while you still can! Get back the control that is rightly yours!
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2gether
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:23pmHere is what is stupid. That the media and the government continues to run around after horrific tragedies attempting to draw on the emotion of the moment rather than using their brains for once. A tragedy requires people to step back, catch his or her breath and don’t make impulsive decisions based wholely on emotion. These guns appear to “look like “assault rifles” but the weapon only fires a bullet as fast as you can pull the trigger…just like a hunting rifle or a hand gun. The only difference is the number of bullets in the clip. My question again is when do we look at ourselves in the mirror and take responsibility for our own actions and/or inactions? When that happens we will begin to see the necessary changes we need to see in this country. Until then we will continue to see knee jerk reactions and blame flung at everything else and everybody else.
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careaboutUSA
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 5:04amHey Brurwiser or what ever yr name is,did’nt you read or listen to what Wayne Lapierre said!” How do you stop a bad guy with a GUN ?? a good guy with a GUN !! U don’t have to he too smart to think that makes sense !! I know I would rather have a policeman with a gun in a school, than NOBODY, because OF NOBODY there at the school with a GUN ,26 little innocent babies got slaughtered!
U’re thinking with yr heart, instead of yr BRAINS !! U can’t think straight when u’re all emotional! Wait till things calm down and the liberal fog clears, then u can really think clearly! In fact don’t u wish you had been there in that classroom with a loaded gun, when he was slaughtering those poor DEFENSELESS little children! Please think clearly! By the way I don’t own a gun!! YET!!!
One more question,what did these people have in common? Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Hitler, Chavez, Castro, Stalin and Lenin ? They all believed in GUN CONTROL!! Remember what our forefathers said, “A government always fears a well armed militia of the PEOPLE!!!” and with Mr socialist obama in power, taking our freedoms away a little at a time, sure makes me want to own a gun! Not to shoot little children, but to protect me and my family from obama’s planned tyranny !!
God bless America, the land I love, obamaless!
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SELECT
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:58pmthese are not my words but seem very succinct and to the point: Lack of conscience is the problem both for individuals and for nations. Among nations the problem is nuclear (and all other) weapons in the hands of bad regimes. And among Americans the problem is guns in the hands of bad people.
Want to know a major cause of criminal violence in America? Try leftism’s denial of the importance of moral values among nations and individuals; its systematic destruction of character education; and its elimination of God as the source of moral law.
Not guns.
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Guitar Master
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:10pmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
From THE REPORTER
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
The press used to be our eyes and ears, the U.S. Congress our mouth.
We the people, no longer have eyes or ears nor do we have a mouth.
Now, those at the seat of power will try to disarm us. The question is, will we let them?
Didn’t some prominent American say “Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!”
Remember the founders – without the means of self defense, there can be no liberty!!
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lillymckim
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:27pm“Only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”
These reporters after praying to God who they probably don’t believe in either will wish they had a gun in their hand instead of the phone when the bad guys come calling.
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ltb
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:56pmYou know who is to blame for this shooting? The shooter. Crazy, or not, if he hadn’t had a gun handy and was intent on killing a bunch of people, he would have found another way to carry out his evil deed.
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demorepublicrap
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:00pmAnd when you ask for social justice Michael Moore ‘s kids are more important than your kids.
Equal justice for all. Why is it that the president, congress, Hr, Hollywood ‘kids life is more important than my kids? You get the picture wake up people!
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jman-6
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:51pmDPC- That’s exactly how communism works! The elites are deserving and the peasants can eat cake!
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702TruthSeeker
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:59pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ju4Gla2odw
+1
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:03pmObama appointed Kevin Jennings as the SAFE SCHOOL CZAR – why is the MSM not interviewing him?
What did Jennings do to keep our schools safe? What was his plan?
His claim to fame was teaching homosexuality to school children. Did that keep our kids safe?
The NRA has a plan that is logical. It works for airlines, as we know they put Air Marshalls on flights. Why did the MSM not attack that idea?
Why is the MSM not holding Obama accountable for his pick of safe school czar?
Why does the MSM seem to care so much about this incident, but ignored Fast and Furious. Are the two cases not both involving those evil Assault Rifles, that Geraldo told us this morning on Fox make the shooter not have to think, but allow them to spray children.
When is someone in the MSM going to have a person like Massad Ayoob, or another gun expert come on,and speak some truth?
Why is Fox acting more and more like CNN?
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:22pmInstead of mocking the NRA, how about these reporters getting out and getting some answers on this story?
So what was the evidence they found at his house?
Who was the man arrested in the woods at the school?
Why for two days did they say the AR was in the back of the car, but then an investigator said everyone was shot with a rifle? Which is it?
What are the eye witnesses saying? Did he have a rifle in hand? Was he let in? Did he force his way in?
What is his dad saying now? What about the brother?
What was he doing? Was he in school? Did he work? Did he just sit home all day playing video games?
What political views did he and his mother have?
I want to know what music he listened to
I want to know what computer games he played
I want to know how often he went to church (if ever)
I want to know what his relationship to his father was
Did he ever play sports
The MSM called him a Marksman – did he shoot with the 4H, boy scouts, CMP, NRA…???
Was he an NRA member? Was him Mom?
How often was his mom out at the bar drinking, while he was alone at home?
If she was going to commit him, did she allow him access to those guns, or did he break in and get them?
Did he watch Fox news? Did he watch John Stewart?
What movies did he watch?
Was he into the role playing games, LARP, did he have any addictions?
What medications was he on?
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:33pmThis does not surprise me when you know that the Communist Party agenda included:
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
The idiots in America have been deceived; indoctrinated not educated, a media that is corrupt gate keepers of information, agenda that is designed to drive this country in a direction designed to destroy it. Fabians, Frankfurt School, Antonio Gramcsi’s work of taking a Judeo/Christian culture down from the inside; creating a people so dumbed down they not only want cradle to grave government care but they can’t exist without it – can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state.
Gun control is just one of their weapons. The cadre of intellectuals that have trained Gramsci shock troops of teachers and media hacks to take this which was a Judeo/Chrsitan culture down from within…and the beauty of it is the victims of it will be fighting for it:
This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. Watch it. Share it.
It should be mandatory viewing for anyone who is educated/indoctrinated in government funded schools
https://vimeo.com/52009124
if that is not working try this: https://vimeo.co
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Old_Bones
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:49pmDon’t try to be a Rambo. join your states militia movement. The assistance of like minded individuals may be very valuable during any protracted siege.
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Lotus503
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:57pmI’ve totally tuned out of the “drive-by media”..and I can’t remember the last time I watched CCN, MSNBC, or any of the other formerly major network news. They don’t believe in our laws, our Constitution and our general traditional American morality, so I have no use for them.
The only reliable news can be had on the Blaze, WND, the Drudge Report, and (for the most part) Fox News…along with some smaller news sources. I find them more honest and sincere.
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:09pmThese reporters are just a bunch of pathetic hypocritical hens. They’re cowards who are probably sh!tting their pants right now because their forked tongues were openly exposed for all to hear.
CHEERS TO THE HOT MICS!!!
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Female
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:13pmRangerskippy,
How dare you ask such questions?
You really need to read the memo to all media:
Regardless, of the obvious truth, absolutely ask no questions regarding the shooter. The blame must be deflected to the gunstore, the NRA, preppers, and the Conservatives.
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skippy6
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:27pmcool link
http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html
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taintso
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:37pmYou have to remember these journalist are a product of our socialist school and college system. You don’t change a governed people by convincing present generation, you indoctrinate the children. If we don’t get the feds out of our schools and take control of our schools locally we will loose this Nation if it is not too late.
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rjtaurus605
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:39pmYou are so right! I have said before that the shooter could have used a hundred year old side by side and the outcome would have been the same, no one there to stop him, so stop blaming the gun and start protecting our kids!
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:06pmAll the above plus our elections are stolen through voter fraud!
What do we have left? Only self defense.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:42pmrangerskippy
His claim to fame was teaching homosexuality to school children. Did that keep our kids safe?
***
IF the safe school czar teaches kids about homosexuality, they will be safe from a criminal with a gun or any weapon.
They will be dead of AIDS.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:52pm“President Obama’s “safe schools czar,” under fire from critics who say he’s unfit for his job, acknowledged Wednesday that he “should have handled [the] situation differently” years ago when he was a schoolteacher and didn’t report that a 15-year-old boy told him that he was having sex with an older man.”
“I hope you knew to use a condom.” Obama Safe School CZAR, Kevin Jennings.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/30/obamas-safe-schools-czar-admits-poorly-handled-underage-sex-case/#ixzz2FkWBJabj
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LaBelle
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:46pm“reporters” are worthless anymore, all they care about is forwarding the lefts agenda, no matter what the agenda is.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:53pmIf a bad guy would have walked into that room with a semiautomatic pistol they would have all been dispatched in less than 3 seconds. If that had happened I bet all those libs would have wished they’d been holding. They could have recognized the threat, whipped out their concealed weapon, taken aim, and laid the guy low. Provided, of course, they could have done that in three seconds or less. One, two, three. They could have saved all their lives. Libs don’t get it.
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Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:04amYou are right Meteors. “Libs don’t get it”.
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Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:11amSendTheMeteors
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:53pm
If a bad guy would have walked into that room with a semiautomatic pistol they would have all been dispatched in less than 3 seconds. If that had happened I bet all those libs would have wished they’d been holding. They could have recognized the threat, whipped out their concealed weapon, taken aim, and laid the guy low. Provided, of course, they could have done that in three seconds or less. One, two, three. They could have saved all their lives. Libs don’t get it.
BTW- A semi-automatic weapon means you have to pull the trigger every time you mean for it to fire genius. Now, count again.
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LBRTYorDTH
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:37amThat is the most famous part of his speech, but my favorite part is this.
“Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?” Also Patrick Henry in the same speech.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 5:22amRangerskippy…..Good questions!
Yahsuarules…… I see you’ve been reading.
I would not want to place a bet, Yahsua, that any of those reporters have read the things you spoke of. I’m sure you have read of Wilhelm Wundt. G. Stanley Hall studied under Wundt and brought back to America ways to emplement Wundt’s teachings.
Daniel Colt Gilman (the order) was president of J Hopkins Univ. He hired Hall and trained John Dewey, who had his hands in both Columbia and Univ of Chicago.
All these leftists and the schools of “learning” they were involved in were funded by the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations.
Its all intertwined with the conspiracy to take us down.
Anthony Sutton, Beverly Eakman, Charlotte Iserbyt are all good sources.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 5:50amYahsuarules……One other thing I’ll mention that you may aware of:
Wilhelm Wundt was one who believed that anyone (but in this case Americans) could be trained like rats. The actual plan, according to Wundt and his disciples, was to train, not teach. Critical thinking was “verbotten.”
I’d have to say (after listening to those little twits in the above video), that Wundt was absolutely right.
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MittensKittens
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 6:10amI’m glad I started stocking up on weapons and ammo along time ago…
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:32amSendTheMeteors
Had the school not been declared a “gun free zone”, this may have never happened.
Notice that it was reported that when Adam Lanza knew the cops were closing in on him (they had semi auto wapons) he then shot himself.
He like most of these mass murders do not go for a fight, they go looking for an unarmed victim. Had a employee of the school, had a weapon on school grounds, grabbed it, and moved to the sound of the shooting it is very plausable that they could have stopped him before he started his execution in that class room.
Your quick draw scenario is bogus, and no one is fooled by your stupid sarcastic comments.
You are a troll, you are not educated in the use of fire arms, nor are you educated on these types of events/
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:33amHey – SendTheMeteors
Just for your education, here is a trained shooter, using a revolver to put six shots into the target, reloading, putting six more into the target, and all under………………. THREE SECONDS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsLx5ISBXw4
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:29pmsendthemeatballs – looks like you ran out of stupid stuff to say.
Head back over to the huffpo and stay away from the grown folks.
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Balzy
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:31pm@sendthemeteors
lol i think you’re dead on pal, it sure would be a wake-up call for those silverspoon babies ;D
@Improvise.Adapt.Overcome
i actually didn’t see anything wrong with what he said… i don’t get what you mean.
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yiska8
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:26pmThis is the generation of indulged idealists who actually believe that they became “journalists” in order to CHANGE THE WORLD, instead of writing objectively by stating FACTS and backing up those facts with reliable sources without interjecting your own opinion. The American media should feel the heat and learn we’re WISE to them. We can turn it off the news. Change the channel. Not purchase from particular advertisers who buy time on statist media. Or cancel subscriptions. The NRA at least came up with a plan. Liberals don’t think a plan is viable if it doesn’t include all their wants and desires. If Americans are stripped of the Second Amendment, no one will be able to defend the others because we will have been disarmed by the liberal mind and hand.
The liberal mind is a weak one.
Liberalism is a mental disorder.
“The first thing you have to do is disarm the people. A disarmed public can’t fight back..” Adolf Hitler
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thewolf00
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:07pm“[The NRA] basically said it’s everybody’s fault but ours,” one reporter said
Sounds like Obama the last four years
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Mil Mom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:36pm@thewolf00
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:07pm
“[The NRA] basically said it’s everybody’s fault but ours,” one reporter said
Sounds like Obama the last four year
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Nope! That would’ve been BUSH’S FAULT!
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:41pmOuch, that was an accurate comment if I ever heard one
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commies.in.the.wire
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:11amNothing but immature leftists punks.
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Proverbs17-12NLT
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:02amI’d bet big money that those Code Pink women, don’t trim up?
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scrapadapolis
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:03pmIf I were Wayne I would have asked If that woman was packing,Would she have murdered me?This is how much they hate guns but their hate for the gun people infurates them so much would they use the very weapon they despise to make a point?
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meisterman41
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:00pmCode Pink? Do they also collect money for breast cancer? If not, please change your color from pink to Red and show your “true colors”!!!!!!!!!!!!!Commies.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:17pmI really don’t mean to sound argumentative, but why are these people like commies? I really need clarification not troll messages.
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OhioRifleman
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:23pm@ Nlitened
Communists want all power centralized. The only way that is possible is if everyone but the central power is disarmed. Thus, their actions are either direct result of or in support of being communists.
Follow?
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grimmster
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:05pm@nlitened1.
Its simple, read history, and compare.And read real history, not some liberal sites version of it……
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thewolf00
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:55pm“[The NRA] basically said it’s everybody’s fault but ours,” one reporter said???
That sounds just like obama the last four years. Maybe they are related.
Why would it be the NRA’s fault? They had nothing to do with it.
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:49pmPravda.
Look it up.
It is what exists in the USSA now.
State run media propaganda.
That isnt a talking point — its the actual truth.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:42pmThere’s a special place in H*LL for the liberal media.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:52pmReally? Hell for them, hell for homosexuals, hell for drunkards and druggies and fornicators. Well at least the media gets a special place…is that better or worse than the others?
oh, here’s a fun article for you…I particularly like the title.
http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/newtown
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Flag-Man
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:53pmAmen
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Walkabout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:00pmNlitend1
I skimmed th article. Per the author mass shootings/killings did happen until around 1989, which was after the evil Reagan became president & the unions were broken up, yada, yada, yada. except for everywhere else in the world, where a mass killing led to enlightened laws like in China & Britain.
Was Reagan president in China & Britain too?
Gosh, we have to rewrite the history books.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 12:33amThanks for skimming…evil reagan would be proud!
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countryfirst
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:30amOur right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed upon it is clearly written.
It would have been nice if the media would have been on this kind of a witch regarding BHO’s certifications and past mentors. But then again the facts are never a distraction to the main agenda
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:21am@Enlitend1….”Really? Hell for them, hell for homosexuals, hell for drunkards and druggies and fornicators.”
You added..”hell for homosexuals, hell for drunkards and druggies and fornicators.”
The discussion in this thread is about young, naive, and biased left-wing reporters who have been “trained” by socialist professors. I know its sometimes uncomfortable, but try to stay on-topic.
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jens63
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:37pmDo they even listen to themselves?
“The group of reporters laughed when one said that the NRA chair was “probably packing” and that no one would be “stupid enough” to pull a gun during the event.”
Uhhhmmmmmmmm, yea, arguement for concealed carry and they don’t even hear it!
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AvengerK
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:54pmThey don’t care. It’s all part of liberal moral relativism…the means justifies the ends. Objective journalism is dead in this country. They are winning this war and they will keep on winning until we’re serious about pushing back at them. The conservative message is poisoned before it reaches the public’s ears because of these b@stards and the lefties in our schools. It’s time to fight back on all those fronts or we’re not going to win this.
I just watched Obama demagogue congress and pander to the voter. Not a peep from the liberal press corps questioning his part in the stalemate in Washington. He threw a “deal” at the House where he wanted $50billion in new stimulus, nearly $2 trillion in new taxes on “the rich” and he wanted congress to relinquish the power over the debt ceiling to him…yes indeed the heroin addict wanted control over how much heroin he can have. They won’t touch this guy he gets away with everything.
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SeekerEmerald
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:49pmThat’s what I picked up on, also… Glad I’m not the only one that see these morons for who they truly are. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. (I know that’s not an exact quote, BTW…)
They won’t let their own common sense get in the way of their ideology.
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riseandshine
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:35pmI’m not a fan of these videos that play automatically.
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:42pmYeah. And it’s “The Travel Channel” nonsense. I haven’t once seen the video that’s supposed to play on the topic.
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grimmster
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:22pmEasy solution, dont come here encinom, moron…….
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dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:35pmso often they knock the truth. 1 it wasn’t the NRA’s fault and 2 if it is known that someone may be packing then nobody is going to pull a gun and start shooting. they just solved the problem of mass shootings.
I hope this is thrown in their faces.
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Marine25
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 8:02pmI agree it wasn’t the NRA’s fault. But if shooters won’t go where they believe somebody is armed, why all the body armor? They are not afraid of dying. Suicide, or shot by police, they are not trying to get away. Body armor buys them 15 minutes to do what their anger, ignorance or illness compels them to do, then they check out. Trained, armed personnel may stop them, but I don’t believe it will dissuade them any more than firearms scare off guys walking into Beirut coffee houses with bombs strapped to their chests. An enemy with nothing left to lose is a different animal entirely. That’s the part of the puzzle nobody seems to talk about, and that part is way more dangerous than any firearm.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:48pmMarine25
Wow, I agree with you in part. That must be your Marine training & having experienced different things than civilian.
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aproudinfidel
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:34pmI doubt that I could have stated the case from a gun owner’s standpoint nearly as Wayne LaPierre did. He spoke for me.
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19CavScout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:24pmI was at the local gunstore earlier today and was told that next week it is looking like POTUS will issue an Executive Order banning the sale of anymore firearms.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:34pmIf he does he will be in violation of the Constitution ! He is already a Communist Traitor!
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Gerewolf
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:50pmAnd that will be the let’s roll moment. Once he goes against the constitution in such a direct way, it’s time to take a dictator and introduce him to the constitution.
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Flag-Man
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:55pmBring It On
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mtonepa
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:08pmHe can make any EO that he wants, an EO is not a law and is not enforceable in courts.
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Wolf
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:23pmThat POS CoonInChief can legislate any law he wants- but he’d better find someone to enforce it before he signs it. Other than his ****-lickers in Justice, I think he’d have some problems.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:39pmyou couldn’t be any more of a stereotype if you tried. This is why I love you teaparty folk…dependable consumers of fear-marketing. Read this: http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/newtown
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saranda
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 9:36pmDuh, think the gunstore might be trying to create urgency in your buying decision? A little fear can motivate certain types of people of which you are likely one. GB has built an empire on using fear mixed with half truths to have people send him money.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:04amNlitend1……your comments about the Tea Party show you have never been to a TP meeting. I go to TP meetings, and unless you consider the pledge to our flag and singing the NA threats, then maybe you need to consider going, too.
Never have heard a racist comment at a TP meeting, and apparently, neither have any of the blacks who have attended.
Throwing in a person who makes a negative racial comment in with TP’ers shows your total lack of knowledge on the topic.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:22pmGot this in email, too:
Very cool!
Now this is a gun show!
YOU’RE GOING TO LOVE THIS ONE!!
Click on the link below …
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=OQnU1t7UzgM
Now this is a gun show!!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:10pmThat looked like fun. I do wish that I’d had the opportunity to have fired the M134 when I was in the service.
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South Philly Boy
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:14pmExcellent
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P4cooler
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:22pmThese reporters are so busy cleaning the colon of the President. You media are blood sucking vampires that push fear (false emotions appearing real) onto the American public every single hour. I am wise to your crap and sick of you co-conspirators to the destruction of America.
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Gregory_Adams
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:20pmI will repeat, the MSM is nothing but leftist advocates.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:32pmMSN and MSNBC are a bunch of Liberal Commies that would like nothing more than to take all our Liberties away.
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quiltgal
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:53pmYes, the press are no longer “reporters.” They should now be called “advocates” or, in the case of those who applaud obstructing the faces and free speech of those with whom they disagree, “information suppressors.”
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Sgt_Rock
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 1:47am@quiltgal – I agree with you and will go one further…in my opinion, most of the reporters you see in the news, especially local news, never intended to be reporters, they wanted to be actors and didn’t have the talent. Watch them sometimes and you see their pathetic attempts at sounding and looking credible. They have two goals; get noticed and get to a bigger market. They accomplish both by getting the big story or stories. Whatever they need to do to accomplish this they will do, including lie, embellish and mislead. Their excuse?…”it doesn’t have to be true, just it accurate.” Half of the story maybe all thy need to get your attention, and the truth or whole story is not important, only the accuracy. So if what they have reported is accurate they’re good, if you really want the whole story then it is up to you to seek it out. That is not their focus or objective. The old adage “If it bleeds, it leads” is true and the more lurid the better. If there is no controversy they will create it. They seldom get called on any errors and if they do, the correction or retraction is frequently under-reported or minimal at best. We haven’t had journalists since before Walter Cronkite and he sold his soul when he lost his objectivity while reporting the Tet Offensive in 1968. Everyone wants to be Geraldo. No one wants to be Edward R. Morrow or Eric Sevareid.
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DatabaseSue
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:13pmTired of the hypocracy….. where are the abortion controls? Why is it ok to murder innocent babies? The ones hollaring the loudest for Gun Control are the very same ones hollaring for babies to be allowed to be murdered.
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Trail_Jumper
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:21pmThat’s because it isn’t about safety. It’s about their political agenda.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:24pmHey, pathetic liberal media, it’s NOT the NRA’s fault, not even the slightest bit. Liberals suck.
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kaydeebeau
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:25pmTrue that – these screaming loons would not have any issue if those poor little angels had been murdered before they exited their mothers’ wombs.
So how is it that the “mother” has a right to murder her baby in utero but Adam Lanza doesn’t get to exercise his right to choose who lives and who dies?
Neither leftist, abotionist or Adam Lanza has the right to deprive another of the right to life – our first right – the Declaration says all men are CREATED equal – not born equal, not breathe equal, not live equal – but CREATED – even the founders knew that life began at conception
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Bluebonnet
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:40pmYou got that right. Not one of these protestors would hold up a sign against abortion, but they don’t mind wanting the rest of us to be left at the mercy of sick thugs who have unlicensed guns. Don’t even argue with me about this, I would never knowingly go to a mall or store that didn’t allow a legal gun owner to be there. I want good people with a gun to be around everywhere I go.
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spookydoom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:36pmexactly what i think. its ok for a woman to kill her unborn child with a surgical procedure but she can’t defend herself with a gun from an attacker that is trying to kill her.
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romsquiz
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:34pmSave the sperm, stop masterbating.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:12pm(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.
(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians
per year are
120,000.
(C) Accidental deaths per physician is
0.171
Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept. of Health and Human Services.
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Now think about this:
Guns
(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S.is 80,000,000.
(Yes, that’s 80 million)
(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.
(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is .0000188
Statistics courtesy of FBI
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So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.
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Remember, ‘Guns don’t kill people, doctors do.’
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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT
Almost everyone has at least one doctor.
This means you are over 9,000 times more likely to be killed by a doctor as by a gun owner!!!
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Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.
We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!
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Out of concern for the public at large, We withheld the statistics on lawyers
for fear the shock would cause people to panic and seek medical attention!
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:16pmI like this ! I’ll be careful next time I go to the Killer Doc !
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Seth Patriot
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:18pmPriceless.
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justangry
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:20pmJournalists aren’t interested in the truth anymore.
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The-Monk
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:45pmHi Anonymous T. Irrelevant,
Isn’t 170,000 divided by 120,000 5.83%.
I’m catching my roommates cold so I’m not thinking real well.
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Al J Zira
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:53pmGreat statistics, but where’s the data on killings? You compared accidental gun deaths to accidental deaths by a doctor, and that’s fine. But to make a better argument, everyone is ticked at killings with a gun. Any stats on that?
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:14pmMaybe you could start a movement among tea party members not to use doctors. Just one step further, maybe you guys can fix all your ailments with your guns.
Here is an interesting article that undermines your simplistic argument: http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/newtown
Good luck trying to understand.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:21pmHave you considered starting a movement among tea party members not to use doctors. A lot of people don’t use assault rifles and they are doing okay…
Here is an interesting article that undermines your simplistic argument: http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/newtown
Good luck trying to understand.
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 7:08pmNLITEND1
This is just a humorous email I passed on. It’s not real. Lighten up Francis and quit repeating the same link, you are starting to sound like Tim, off his medication.
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momrules
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:12pmLook how young these so called unbiased reporters of the truth are. Simpletons, silly youngsters that have swallowed the liberal/communist line of garbage taught in schools and colleges. Willing slaves for the New America. I bet they think Cuomo’s gun confiscation idea is a good one.
Silly and dangerous children.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:40pmLOL, you rule!
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myrwo6
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:10pmI will never trust a reporter. What was supposed to be good for the country by helping to keep systems of government in check has turned out to be very bad for this country because the press are now all a bunch of liberal drones. I’ve come to the conclusion now that no news is good news.
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romsquiz
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 10:37pmPaid off by Robert Murdoch, who happens to own Fox News…well surprise surprise
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Walkabout
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:09pmScrew the reports. The NRA nor the gun owners made gun free zones. The liberals did.
The liberals said this a gun free zone. this is a soft target. Hit me Hit me. M/rons!
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encinom
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:07pm“‘[The NRA] basically said it’s everybody’s fault but ours,’ one reporter said, adding that NRA Chair Wayne LaPierre failed to bring up assault weapons.”
That wasn’t bad mouthing that wsa stating the truth. The NRA president did everything he could to avoid placing blame where it belonged.
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catty
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:14pmWord
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kaydeebeau
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:16pmSo AdmamLanza was an NRA member and promoting the values of safe gun owner ship ? Realy?
I have yet to hear of a mass shooting (or any shooting other than self-defense) by the NRA or an NRA member. So your point is what other than that point on the top of your head?
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:27pmENCINOM is a pathetic, disgusting, hate filled loser with no ability to speak the truth.
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aproudinfidel
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:33pmJust so you’ll know, he is the executive director, not the president, you moron. And what he said spoke for me. An evil, insane young man killed those kids and teachers, not the NRA, not the gun.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:19pmENCINOM, It does not necessarily take a gun to do what Adam Lanza did. The two largest loss of life attacks on schools in this country were not perpetrated with a single gun. There are truly crazy and/or criminally insane and evil people out there who will kill. Something is just WRONG with some people. What makes you think that you or anybody else can live in a world where no malice can possibly occur. You are as foolish as the idiots who stroll around in public texting to the point they fall into fountains, or on the stairs. At this time there is no such thing as an evil free world.
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Nlitend1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 6:55pmThis is an article from one of those media elites:
http://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/newtown
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 4:10pmEncinom is a Communist ! Come out of the closet !
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RaydocX
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:07pmsorry journalazi, but they correctly pointed out that some unstable folks… you know, the sort that will kill to get their name immortalize, are encouraged to act by the wall to wall over the top coverage by the ’24 hour news cycle.’ Not that there is reporting of real news, journalazi, just spin and sensation to whip up emotion in whatever direction you feel is ‘right.’
It is correct that impressionable, susceptible people at the fringes of our society can be influenced by television programming and movies and videogames… witness the people who are ‘sick’ for a week when a game comes out, or who stood outside the Michael Jackson trial weeping and begging for his salvation.
And it is correct that the existence of ‘assault rifles’… modern sporting rifles, does provide a tool that can be used to devastating effect. Sadly, they are necessary given the similar weapons wielded by bad guys both beyond and within our borders. And they are CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED as a tool to remind the government it is subject to the people, rather than the other way around.
Last I checked, the shooter (why list his name… he craved the notoriety) was not an NRA member, much less a delegate or employee. when you are so obtuse to claim NRA is ‘responsible’ you have stepped so far beyond collecting the facts and reporting you’re no longer a journalazi… you’re a press representative for the Left… and the Left has some responsibility in the constant push to blame o
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romsquiz
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 2:24amHow many criminals are NRA members? Lots? None? Would it matter?
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Cavallo
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:06pmSycophantic Pravda Fascists. We’re never surprised by this, and they are never ashamed by it.
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SPIN_MD
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 11:39pmActually Pravda correctly identified these people as the illiterates.
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chips1
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:04pmSorry, but the sign wasn’t large enough to hide the truth. That’s what scares them more than guns. The truth.
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gyro
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:12pmthis
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:03pmNothing but campaigners for Obama. Journalism is dead in main stream America.
Journalism schools are nothing but dens of Marxism, with no teaching of critical thinking whatsoever.
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booger71
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:11pmBarry -O is the King of passing the buck
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on December 21, 2012 at 5:29pmANONYMOUS, So true.
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romsquiz
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 3:17amWell thank goodness for Fox News
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