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Your Move, Mr. President: Boehner Says House Has Done All It can to Avoid ‘Fiscal Cliff’

Dec. 22, 2012 7:47pm Becket Adams

House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) during his weekly GOP address said that the House has done all it can to avert the so-called “fiscal cliff,” a combination of tax increases and deep spending cuts set to take effect at the end of the year unless Congress comes up with a budget deal, and that it’s up to President Barack Obama and his Democrat allies to present a “balanced” approach that both parties can agree on.

“The House has done its part to avert this entire fiscal cliff. On the 10th of May and again on Thursday, we passed legislation that would replace the ‘sequester’ with responsible spending cuts,” the Speaker said.

“We also passed a bill to stop all of the January 1 tax hikes. The events of the past week make it clearer than ever that these measures reflect the will of the House,” he adds.

Speaker Boehner continued:

The American people re-elected President Obama on Election Day. They also re-elected a Republican majority in the House. In doing so, they gave us all a mandate. It was not a mandate to raise tax rates on families and small businesses. It was a mandate for us to work together to begin solving the massive debt that threatens our country’s future.

Unfortunately, the president and Senate Democrats have vowed to reject and veto all of our proposals while failing to offer a responsible solution of their own.

What the president has offered so far simply won’t do anything to solve our spending problem and begin to address our nation’s crippling debt. Instead, he wants more spending and more tax hikes that will hurt our economy. And he refuses to challenge the members of his party to deal honestly with entitlement reform and the big issues facing our nation. That is why we find ourselves here today.

I’ve challenged the members of our party to grapple with these issues, to make tough choices. And we’re willing to – because Washington has a serious spending problem. This was the year the size of our debt – all 16 trillion dollars of it – surpassed the size of our entire economy. It’s a grim milestone, one of many we’ll have to bear if we don’t come to grips with it.

The president’s solution of raising tax rates would still leave red ink as far as the eye can see. And it would hurt jobs, at a time when far too many of our citizens are struggling to find them.

Speaker Boehner concluded by reiterating the position of House Republicans: Avoid raising taxes and instead address out-of-control government spending.

“The best way to address our crippling debt is to make significant spending cuts and fix our tax code to pave the way for long-term growth and opportunity. This is an approach most Americans support, and it remains Republicans’ highest priority. But we only run the House. Democrats run Washington,” Rep. Boehner said.

“Of course, hope springs eternal, and I know we have it in us to come together and do the right thing. We will continue to work with our colleagues in the Congress and the White House on a plan that protects families and small businesses,” he added.

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OlefromMN
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:37am
Boehner has two battles to fight. He is “battling” Obama as well as being given calls through his helmet by establishment to hold 1 line or another.

The party needs to dump him quickly. The “party” is as dysfunctional as they come. Politics are fast becoming a thing of the past, but we still have to play them.

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- Chuck Stein
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 3:04am
  How would this play out, do you think:
  (1) Republican party folds its tent
  (2) All who were Republicans register as Democrats (NOT a “new” party)
  (3) Now conservative and libertarian candidates have a shot — even in the Northeast — at the primary level where the vote can get split 3 ways (or more).
  I know it won’t happen — too much money for some folks in party leadership. Still, I wonder if it’s benefits would outweigh its advantages. Basically, “one party” COULD be the effective equivalent to NO parties.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:40am
  The moral cliff is this nations problem. We have gone over.
  
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- realindependent
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:03am
  You are full of it Boehner. This President ran on raising the rates on anyone’s income above 250k a year, and WON the election. The only reason you still have a majority in the house is they weren’t that many tea party republicans on the ballot that where in 2010. You had to tuck your tail behind your arse cause they wouldn’t even raise it for people making 1 million a year. Obama can’t negotiate with someone who can’t give half way. Obama even offered cuts to Social Security. Something no Democrat has ever offered and lowered it to people making over 400k a year and still you don’t have the votes. You republicorps have control of one branch of government and you act like you have all the power. You tell me how you get rid of our debt by just cutting safety net and entitlements our elderly have paid into there whole lives? You can’t you must raise taxes.
  
  Keep playing politics with this so called cliff. and you’ll be out of power in 2014 and you will guarantee Democratic control of government for 50 years. All to protect rich peoples continue’d 0 effective tax rates and see where that gets ya….
  
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- ANoNameMess
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 9:15am
  @REALINDEPENDENT When are you liberals going to start looking at the real data and realize that even if you raise taxes on everyone – rich and poor alike, we still won’t have enough revenue to offset the current spending crisis? If you would actually do your homework, a lack of revenue is not the problem. Out of control spending is. And Social Security is only a part of that spending. There are other areas to cut. I really don’t think anybody wants to make cuts to Social Security. That’s why your god, Obama, offered it: because he knew it would be turned down. But how many “entitlements” do we need? Why do we need to keep adding more, and more, and more? I don’t see you talking about the other entitlements that the elderly and all of us (working people, at least) pay into that they or we will never see a dime of.
  
  BTW, your handle, REALINDEPENDENT, on a liberal is a contradiction. Independence is the antithesis of security. You give up more independence the more you demand security. Even if you can honestly claim that Social Security is actually “secure” in the hands of an over-spending government, it doesn’t spell out “independence”. If the elderly cannot live “independently” from their Social Security, then, obviously, they are dependent on the government. Then it’s not REAL INDEPENDENCE, is it?
  
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- tithonia1
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:33pm
  ‘Bonehead’ Boehner actually thinks O-Blameo WANTS to or is capable of working with the right side of the aisle. After 4 years of non-compliance in any fashion, what does Boehner expect. Move home, John, this isn’t your America anymore. Boggles the mind how these ‘so called’ leaders in the GOP keep pandering to Obama infinitum and expecting different results. Truly amazing. America is over.
  
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- Chuck Stein
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:35pm
  @ realdemocratpuppet:
  “rich peoples continue’d 0 effective tax rates” OWS fairy tales retold, I see.
  
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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:55pm
  The leftist republican party’s LAST hurrah was reelecting Obama by CHEAT-nominating Romney. The leftist republican party is finished. The ONLY thing they can do now, is siphon support AWAY from third parties… clearing the runway for democrats… just like they did in 08 and 12.
  
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- Clive
  Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:54am
  its as though the republicans are trying to lose the 2016 election. we might as well save our time and just let hillary move right in.
  
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:03am
Had enough?

Constitution Party.
Libertarian Party.
State nullification.
NOW!

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- Chuck Stein
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 3:07am
  That Libertarian Party — what a boon to the Democrats. In 1998, it handed Harry Reid re-election. In 2012, it handed Jim Matheson re-election. Must be other examples.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:17am
  Yes Chuck, like green party giving GW Bush victory in 2000
  
  change the election laws if you think third parties hurt republicans
  
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- therealconservative
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:16pm
  @SOYSAUCE
  
  Sorry, but the Green Party did not vote for Bush. They voted for Gore.
  
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- therealconservative
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:18pm
  @Brother Liberal
  
  “Had enough?”
  
  Yes, we have had enough of the Paul Followers that helped Obama get reelected.
  
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- Chuck Stein
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:41pm
  @ The RealConservative
  I think what Soy was saying is that some left wingers voted for (Nader, perhaps? Was he the “Green” candidate?) instead of Gore and that gave Florida to Bush. Could be. And while that sure would be a big case of the third party influence going in favor of a more conservative candidate, it simply has to be a small minority of that. I am absolutely sure that third party candidacies hurt conservatives much more often than they hurt liberals. (Of course, I am also SURE that most bad calls in sports go against “my” team).
  In any event, Soy’s “change the system” comment is a bit ironic. Usually the folks who run as Libertarian or Constitutional candidates will be very vocal about individual choice, personal responsibility, etc. I would think that anyone who subscribes to such a philosophy would be very opposed to government-based solutions and would instead encourage self-restraint and the exercise of some humility instead of the hubris that is the hallmark of third parties in America for several decades.
  
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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:53pm
  @therealconservative
  
  Republicans were told OVER AND OVER AND OVER that a cheat-nominated Romney would be a reelected Obama. Conservatives and Constitutional Libertarians PLEADED with FAKE-conservatives to not nominate a LEFTIST. We said it would GUARANTEE Obama’s reelection. We tried to save a nation.
  
  But you laughed.
  
  And Obama was reelected.
  
  King Soetoro thanks you.
  
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- ArmedAndReallyPissed
  Posted on December 25, 2012 at 2:50pm
  State Nullification ? Never in a Million years. You can stop with that anytime. And truth be told, ALL Politicians are self serving Crooks. I don’t care what color of Hat they wear. The only thing worse than a Politician is a Child Molester.
  
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sinner-saint
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:55pm
No Mr. Speaker, you haven’t done all you can do yet. Charge Obama with treason, abuse of power, misuse of government funds, and get the marxist/communist out of office.

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- andrew36
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 2:36am
  I dont like Obama neither but seriously your an idiot.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:19am
  that would implicate 90% of the republicans as well
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:31am
  Sinner Saint is not an idiot. They have a very valid point. American soldiers are dying under this fake-president’s so-called “leadership” and he has befriended the muslim brotherhood and openly welcomed their members to permeate every facet of our govnerment. If that’s not treason, I don’t know what is.
  
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- oddfellow
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:58am
  Sinner Saint’s statement is a grey area in its description, he not an idiot. We need to have some kind of standards for our elected official’s actions, other than waiting another four years to remove them. Although speaker Banner is much too weak for the job.
  
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- Ohello
  Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:05am
  If subversion laws covered subversion of the Constitution then the entire administration, & 75% of both houses and SCOTUS should be rounded up tried and punished for treason. As it is subversion laws protect the government even though it is guilty of Constitutional subversion in every aspect of its daily operations.
  WE TAKE OUR LIBERTY, AND BRING REAL HOPE AND CHANGE AND AN END TO TYRANNY
  
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Raging_Waters
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:42pm
Is it just me, or does Bo-eh-ner bear a striking resemblance to the kid from “A Christmas Story”? Then again, I think that kid had more b@lls then Bo-eh-ner.

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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:01am
  Actually, spot-on. Ralphie (Ron Paul’s Liberty Movement) beats the snot outta the democrat character after taking the snowball to the face, while the democrat’s FRIEND, the republican runs away whining: “I’m tellin’ my dad!”
  
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M40-A1
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:39pm
Uh, no Mr. Boehner you are far, far away from doing all you can. You sat on your hands and cried for four years, negotiated like a loser, and refused to call a spade a spade. Now you negotiate a threshold on the definition of the rich instead of standing on principle. Done all you can? BS. Go to hell you low grade common POS.

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- Raging_Waters
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:54pm
  I think it’d be fantastic if we could get a true conservative as Speaker of the House, one that’s not in Congress. It’s possible, but for now we’re stuck with a b@lless Bo-eh-ner.
  
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breakobamanow
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:34pm
Why do you people rail and fret over this?
If you believe in Jesus Christ you know it gets much worse. I suggest you get on your knees and cry out unto the LORD, who is the only one who can save you. Whatever you have on this earth is going to be destroyed in the end. I’m looking forward to being with Jesus, and will depart on his terms.
Accept his free gift of salvation and be free from all your worries. I’m happy and joyful over watching him work his will regardless of what any of us do. You can’t save yourself. You know your flesh must die or be translated and if you don’t believe, ponder the works of heaven and earth and decide soon.
Psalm 19:1
The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.

If you need comfort and want peace in your life about any issue, just go to the book of Psalm and start reading, doesn’t matter where you start as far as chapter or verse. Just read!
I pray for all to find peace and joy in what is a sure word of prophecy. May God bless you and if you are his may he keep you by his word.
Watch, pray and rejoice for the day of the LORD approaches.

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- LovingJesus
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:52pm
  couldn’t have put what you said in any better words. It doesn’t matter what any of us do, we will never fix the damage that has been done. I don’t understand what part Obama plays in these ends days, but do know that it’s not good. This world is destined to be no more, at least not in the way that we know it. I have been trying so hard for years now to get my children to realize their need for Jesus. I feel as if I’m beating my head against the wall. It so terrifies me to think that they will be left behind, or die during the Rapture.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 11:53pm
  Yeah right. He couldn’t even get the House to vote for it’s own proposal. The Republicans, even as publicity stunt can’t pass the bill proposed by by the Republicans leadership, a bill both Boehner and Cantor said would would pass.
  
  If Boehner can’t pass a bill he put forward, one so ridiculous that was never had any chance at all in the Senate, how is President Obama supposed to figure out how to pass a bill, even one Boehner supports through the House?
  
  The House is broken. They are incapable of passing any legislation at all, let alone something that the Senate might pass. Thanks to the far right and their inability to compromise, and their determination to vote “no” on everything no matter how inconsequential, has brought the US government to a standstill. They’ve brought down the government. As of right now, the US doesn’t have a government capable of making decisions. Spooky.
  
  The next move is President Obama’s? No, sorry, the next move is Boehner’s, and he doesn’t have one. We’re going over the cliff folks!
  
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- breakobamanow
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 6:54am
  @LOVINGJESUS
  Just love them, pray for them, and give them scripture for the problems in their life. We can do nothing, but there is power in God;s word. I have children and grandchildren too. I know how you feel. I believe and trust in the LORD to do his will. God bless you.
  
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- ANoNameMess
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 9:38am
  Just because the fight may be heading for defeat doesn’t mean you stop fighting the good fight.
  
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TRILO
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:30pm
Hate to say that I agree with Howard Dean but he was actually correct when he said we need to go over the fiscal cliff. EVERYONE needs to pay, ALL spending needs to be cut, including the funding for the ever expanding military conquests and cherished entitlements like Social Security and Medicare. No one in DC has a set to actually do either. This country has been living off the gravy train of fake money for decades. As Reverend (in name only) Wright said – “The chickens have come home to roost”.

I can not wait to hear the cry babies who thought Bush was an evil man in the pockets of only the rich (I do think that he was a horrible president) when their tax rates increase from 10 to 15%. Maybe then they will see how much he cut their rates, as opposed to the evil rich who only had their tax rates cut by 3%. Add to that the payroll tax increase of 2% and the beggars and moochers will know how it feels to be pick pocketed by the federal government.

When they raise taxes on our business and others the employees will be crying foul too, because no more cost of living raises, less hours and reduced benefits are all coming their way. The IRS will be getting those checks come 2013. They will be reminded that elections have consequences. They will also be told that the goose (employer) who laid the golden egg (benefits) has flown the coop. Uncle Sam is now their sugar daddy and insurance carrier. Good luck to the 47%, now your goose will be cooked too. Welcome to the cl

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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:02pm
  We probably could find ways to cut the military even though we have been cutting since 1989. It would entail risk. Maybe we could look into procurement & find something. Contracts are usually on a cost + basis.
  We could save a great deal if we stopped all research & development & for pennies on the dollar we just steal Chinese & Russian technology.
  We would be out of Afghanistan if we had whipped the Taliban, which we can’t do because they have safe haven in an adjacent country. Yes, some are all of the Pakistani government is playing a double game. But it seems as though there resources were stretched taking South Waziristan from the Taliban let alone take the northern half.
  We had every right to go into Afghanistan. If you don’t agree say why not. If we had ousted the Taliban & left, then the Taliban, ******** & leftist around the world would say we destroyed the country & people are starving. Hence Colin Powel’s ‘if you break it you own it’ comment.
  We had every right to go into Iraq. They broke the armistice signed in 1991. We found many WMDs in Iraq (including 500 tons of yellow cake). I just looked up the articles.
  Putin by the way put one over Obama this weak. He secured the Iraq & Syrian WMDs. So it is safe for tards to say Bush lied, people died. I don’t see the rebels toppling the government in the next 3 months. It is hard to tell & I could be wrong.
  
  Russian forces take Syrian chemical, biological weapons under control – DEBKA
  
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- MONICNE
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 5:19am
  This is the drunken angry walkabout team member, please notice how militant this one is.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:26am
  Thats right Trilo – i think if americans had to pay enough taxes to fully fund government, we would never have gotten as much bloated spending as we have. But when the federal government started to fund itself through federal reserve and inflation, they were able to grow spending without raising taxes.
  
  Sometimes i think they should raise taxes to cover the entire deficit – that way americans would see how much government costs. Yea it would tank the economy – but it is going to happen anyways
  
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omni
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:10pm
Bohner appears to be against conservatve principals. Why not replace him with a real conservative with the courage of his (or her) convictions. If we’re to be kicked to the curb, I would prefer to go down swinging. Besides, we can’t lose much more credibility, we’re running on empty now.

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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:06pm
  It’s like a chess game and we are the pawns…………….
  
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mrunner
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:09pm
Let’s all hold hands and sing kubaya as we go over the cliff. Seriously- Let’s go over the darned cliff. Enough already. Let the Obama Zombie Apocalypse begin. Keep your pantry full and your powder dry… This is going to come to a head at some point and the longer we wait- the worse it will be. If we had just felt the pain back in 2008/09 we would have been out of it already.

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:38pm
  @MRUNNER
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:09pm
  This is going to come to a head at some point and the longer we wait- the worse it will be. If we had just felt the pain back in 2008/09 we would have been out of it already.
  ———————————————–
  Excellent point Ive made myself many times. We should have let it all go back in 2008.
  Big banks were caught gambling in a bad game. So you’re in trouble now? Tough. Your problem.
  
  At this point, 5 YEARS LATER, we would have purged all toxicity out of the economy.
  
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- Glennda
  Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:02am
  BUDDYBAG. . . If only global economics were so easy. But it ain’t. And that makes it your problem. And your T-shirt.
  
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dissentnow
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:04pm
Awwww….Boehner sulks off to cry his progressive crocodile tears! I’m sure Obama can offer you a shoulder to cry on

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- Polarized America
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:35pm
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  crocodile tears..? nope ..Boehner the big baby has real ones, if your from Ohio send him a box of tissues for Christmas & a CD of The Chipmunks singing Christmas Carols
  
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:02pm
Obama wants America to go over the cliff. That’s his goal.

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kickagrandma
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:58pm
boehner LIES.

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FANGS
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:46pm
5 trillion later and Obama has nothing to show for it. Whats worse is No-one has a job because of the Dodd-Frank regulations. If we Americans don’t start a Civil war Soon. America will be invaded by another Country. Join a Malitia soon. There’s strength in Numbers. If they even think of an assult weapons ban, It’s game over. America Snapps. We stop them now, by force.

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:57pm
  @FANGS
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:46pm
  5 trillion later and Obama has nothing to show for it. Whats worse is No-one has a job because of the Dodd-Frank regulations. If we Americans don’t start a Civil war Soon. America will be invaded by another Country. Join a Malitia soon. There’s strength in Numbers. If they even think of an assult weapons ban, It’s game over. America Snapps. We stop them now, by force.
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  Brother we are on the same wave.
  
  Hard leftest Progressives want a war. They’re instigating it.
  And you’re right, any action to restrict firearms and its GAME ON.
  
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- mrunner
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:37am
  Kinda like the movie “Patriot”, some of us will be dragged into it a little reluctantly- but fully prepared to protect our constitution and those we love from the “progressive” collectivist hell. When the time comes and it is “game on”- I am all in…
  
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- tithonia1
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:38pm
  “….It’s game over”. Only if we let it be over. I’ll hand my gun over….yeah right, after they receive the ‘business end’ first or I’m out of ammo.
  
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KeystoneState
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:43pm
Well in my opinion, the (Makers) should stop “making it” that would stop the (takers) pretty quick now wouldn’t it?

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ColoradoMaverick
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:35pm
Senator Boehner, I’ve always thought that you were a decent man and have supported you for the most part, but you made a BIG mistake my trying to negotiate with Obama. He never intended to negotiate. He wants this to happen. You should have told him to pound salt from day one.

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- progressiveslayers
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:46pm
  Unfortunately Boehner is a congressman,an ineffectual congressman but a congressman none the less.
  
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- SCREW-WINDOWS
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:51pm
  Don’t blame Boehner blame Reid it all ends at Reid everything has bee nonnegotiable with Reid there has never been a bigger roadblock in Congress as Reid.
  
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FANGS
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:32pm
Obama’s going to start a war. And Americans, all 80% of us will finish it. Unions, Public teachers, Cronie media and of course democrats will get the brunt of America’s Rage and Revenge. The only thing holding America back from Prosperity is Democrats. We get rid of them and everyone Prospers.

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- Free_Thought
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:16pm
  Nice attempt but you would get crushed. The numbers are not on your side my friend. This is a liberal country and they far out number your side. Plus the military takes its orders from obama. Obama has done something for them that conservatives havent. Gotten them out of wars they never should have been in. He also tried to pass a veterans work bill which the conservative congress voted down. Who do you think they believe is on their side?
  
  I truly believe that america will never have another for a few reasons. There arent enough competent conservative citizens to make a difference and it will only be the extremes from the right and left willing to fight. True americans are with america through thick and thin. They dont bail when someone gets elected that does not agree with everything they do. There were so many people that loved akin and mourdock even after their crazy comments. But cons bailed on christie for saying thank you to obama for his sandy support. That is why the conservative movement is dying. It is a breakdown of leaders and followers of the party. Instead of looking in the mirror and taking the lessons learned to fix the party, the cons instead scream fraud marxism socialism gifts race godlessness etc is the reason you lost. I really wish the cons could come together and organize like the libs. They stick together. Cons are divided. Te extreme voices of limbaugh palin akin mourdock need to go for the party to be taken seriously again. A few bad apples….
  
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- steelpanther
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:07pm
  Hey Free_thought, it’s to bad your wrong. Liberal’s are still out numbered by conservatives and the right of center. For your claim about getting us out of wars? Absurd, we are in more wars then ever and haven’t gotten out of any of them. We can’t even get answers to why our troops are in Uganda. Hate to break it to you, but Obama hasn’t done much more then play on his blackberry.
  
  Oh yeah, conservative congress my backside, They still have the senate well in hand, and they won’t even work with Obama. Not a single one of them voted for his budget plan, guy can’t even get his own party to work with him.
  
  I also have to point out the absurdity of the idea that the republican party is falling apart, it’s reforming though.
  
  The last elections, and most all, are being lost because the party keeps throwing RINO’s and other liberallites as the candidates to win those in the middle, and instead they lose regular conservatives who realize they aren’t being given a choice, so they stay home. I doubt that happens in the next election as all but one of the possible runners are Tea partyiers, and the one that isn’t is Jeb Bush, and America left and right is sick of the Bush Dynasty. Funny though, that G.W. did run as a real conservative and won, even if he wasn’t.
  
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- Free_Thought
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:48pm
  I got the answer i expected. Keep it up. I guess your conservative minority must have voted in obama. Cons need to wake up and realize they are going down big time. If you wat to ignore it thats up to you. Denial is a beautiful thing though. Sweet dreams buttercup.
  
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qpwillie
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:27pm
I’m just wondering what Boehner is going to say after he gives in to Obama just before the deadline is up. How will he backtrack on what he’s saying now?

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:32pm
  Maybe the fact he faces a potential defeat of his Speaker of the House position has encouraged him to grow some political spine.
  
  Not likely I will admit, yet when a politician faces a loss of prestige and power and position, they tend to suddenly become capable of achieving results. No matter what happens, the Republicans will be held to blame by Obama and the Democrats and the MSM for years to come.
  
  This is one case for Obama and his fundamental transformation into Communism agenda, where come an agreement, collapse of the national economy or what not, he wins.
  
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Micmac
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:18pm
As NoBama sits in Hawaii soaking the sun and ocean breezes at your expense ($1.34 billion in trips last year alone),as he celebrates his accomplishment of achieving the fiscal cliff that will increase taxes on everyone. This is his his agenda and why I dealt with my IRAs, etc. last month. Taxes go up, businesses go back into struggle mode, the economy tanks, and NoBama is pleased. Spain is in better shape than us. This is what the likes of the 49%, including you trolls here, as stupid as you are, want. Malthus had it right.

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MisterSarcastic
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:08pm
BLAH BLAH BLAH…heard it all before from both sides…BLAH BLAH BLAH

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:17pm
  yup
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:18pm
  As economists debate about elasticity in the economy. When tax rates go up or down do people shift their economic activities.
  
  If the taxpayers actions are inelastic when tax rates go up, then the Democrat way of scoring additional revenue when taxes are raised is correct.
  
  If not then Democrats are wrong.
  
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- MisterSarcastic
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 10:13pm
  Walk,
  You should run fo office. You sound just like a politician. (humor)
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:05pm
Good – Boehner and Republicans need to stop negotiating with obama, because obama never had any intention of accepting any compromise anyway. It’s obama’s disaster – let him own it (when he, and 200 plus family members and staff, get back from their xxxxxxx-million dollar, taxpayer funded, luxury Hawaiian vacation). Let it burn!

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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:14pm
  I think what you say is true. Obama never had any intention of accepting a compromise.
  
  The thing is as popular as FoxNews at #1, it still doesn’t balance ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN & the comedy channel.
  
  Kabuki theatre had to played. It should have been played better. Boehner should have accepted a compromise at 550K or 600K. After the ink was dry, he should have went on TV & told the American public that the Clinton the additional revenue from those increase tax rates only close the budget deficit by 8% and that what the MSM & Obama are doing is a sham.
  
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- SCREW-WINDOWS
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:44pm
  Obama never had any intention of accepting a compromise it was all a ruse to show Congress as dysfunctional and needing replaced therefore installing the dictatorship.
  
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Walkabout
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:03pm
I think Mr Boehner should have counted with 850K when Obama countered with 400K, hust to see if he would move.

The money to close the yearly budget deficit at the Clinton rates is not there at $1M or 250K or anywhere in between. So Obama’s starting bid to close the deficit gap & put forward a workable budget was fraud. All he wanted to do was play class warfare. As far as I can tell he is winning in the short term.

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- MONICNE
  Posted on December 23, 2012 at 5:23am
  Drunken Walkabout means “counteRed” and needs to multiply up to TRILLIONS. What a sad sack.
  
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progressiveslayers
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:01pm
Hmmm let’s see the Marxist POS hasn’t had a budget in four years and he couldn’t even get one vote from someone in his own party to vote for it and crybaby Boehner thinks Barrys going to do anything to make a deal? HAHAHA No folks the Marxist mulatto POS doesn’t want a deal he wants everyone’s rates to go up,how do you expect to pay for the disaster that is Obama care and every other BS program the maniacal Marxist maggot can dream up? The rates will go up and it won’t do a damn bit of good in fact it’ll harm the economy but it will appease Barrys simpleton base,after all that’s all that counts to the unending campaign of BS.

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encinom
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:59pm
So the speaker of the House, unable to reign in the tea baggers crazies of his party has thrown up his hands. The GOP is proving that they are no longer a party but a collection of crazies unable to do the job they were sent to Washington to do.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:06pm
  Encinom,
  
  1. Using the Clinton rates for earned income over $250K would not have closed the budget deficit. Do you agree?
  
  2. the budget cuts offered by Obama by themselves or with the increased marginal tax rates would not have closed the budget deficit. Do you agree?
  
  3. If the budget deficit is not close & the debt keeps getting added to, then we are inn trouble. Do you agree?
  
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- progressiveslayers
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:17pm
  Encinom
  So just exactly what do you think congresses job is? To keep spending and increasing the size of government? When the government extracts money from the private sector it uses that money to increase the size of all the BS programs the constitution rapers dream up.It won’t use it to pay down the debt and I know this because there isn’t enough dollars in the country to have any affect on that debt. Stop being so obtuse and accept the fact that the ‘ONE’ doesn’t want a debt deal he wants all the rates to go up because he’s a collectivist POS who believes government is the answer to all our problems and that’s just BS,we all know government IS the problem. Slash spending by the trillions problem solved.
  
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- SCREW-WINDOWS
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 8:38pm
  In general, the art of government consists in taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.
  François-Marie Arouet 1770
  
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- Save_the_Constitution
  Posted on December 22, 2012 at 9:10pm
  Representatives in the house are sent there by the citizens of their districts to represent them, not the party or the majority. If they ran on a promise of no new taxes then they are doing the will of the people that elected them. Putting our fate in political parties will destroy us just as George Washington warned:
  However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.
  GEORGE WASHINGTON, Farewell Address, Sep. 17, 1796
  
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RIGS
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:59pm
OBAMAS next move is from his 4MILLION plus vacation on the taxpayers dime. HE REALLY CARES!!!!!!!!!!

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jungle J
Posted on December 22, 2012 at 7:54pm
fraud…. but still better than almost every democrat.

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