NRA: ‘There’s a Media Machine That Wants to Blame Guns Every Time Something Happens’

AP
The National Rifle Association on Sunday reinforced its call for armed guards in every school and stood resolute in its opposition to any new gun laws following the Connecticut elementary school massacre.
“I know there’s a media machine that wants to blame guns every time something happens,” NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I know there’s an anti-Second Amend industry in this town.”
Calling on Congress to immediately appropriate funds for school security guards, LaPierre said it would make every mom and dad feel better to have a “good guy” protecting children if “some horrible monster” tried to do something.
“If it’s crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy,” LaPierre said. “I think the American people think it’s crazy not to do it…I think that is the one thing we can do immediately that would make our children safe.”
LaPierre said gun control laws aren’t going to make children safe and that the NRA would not support reducing magazine capacity or similar measures.
“We don’t think it works and we’re not going to support it,” LaPierre said. “A gun is a tool. The problem is the criminal.”
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progressiveslayers
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:38pmSimpleton obamazombies are a pushover because they’ll believe anything and they did it twice so they’re ignorant as well. They think a gun free zone will ensure their safety and that government should confiscate all firearms,like I said they’re ignorant. No simpletons, if the government confiscates all the weapons they’ll engage in a genocide because it’s happened throughout history.Hitler Pol Pot Mao and Stalin.The so called media are begging to have the 2nd amendment repealed with their constant calls for more restrictions on firearms,they know not what they wish for.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:45pmsome were in this rant is a great post
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progressiveslayers
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:45pmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDivHkQ2GSg&list=FLCREqE1DIvW0LqQD2GSWlww&index=11
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Dauh
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:58pm“Somewhere” in this rant is a great post.
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:01pmThe liberal Marxist depends on the Government, and like a slave, waits for his overlords to protect him. He does not accept his natural right to self defense and self preservation because that would entitle that he also accept personal responsibility.
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DIR
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:03pmWhat’s interesting is how the media doesn’t seem to have a problem with U.S. gun running to Mexican drug lords and their marry band of murdering goons who kill, at will, men, women and children to assure their reign on drugs is unharmpered. How about Barry arming rebels in Libya, and elsewhere in the mideast who mass murder anyone who gets in their way (men, women, children, Americans and Jews). All the carnage brough on by these activities doesn’t seem to bother the MSM. In fact they have little if anything to say about it. However, they want to disarm the U.S. citizenry and the noise they make in order that their will be done. Doesn’t that seem odd? It does to me.
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progressiveslayers
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:16pmDIR What passes for journalists in this country is a shame indeed because they’re simply propagandists for the regime currently in power. Whatever position Barry takes they defend it and his unconstitutional action in Libya,executing a foreign leader is ignored because they’ll do anything to keep him in power. They love his collectivist ideas of big government but don’t realize that his target isn’t just the 2nd amendment it’s the entire constitution.
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macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:45pmI think your attitude is misplaced, the folks are not as stupid as you think. The objective is to repeal the Second Admendmant, not because the people think a gun free zone is safe. They want the guns gone so that the public will be pacified. Poll Pot, Hitler, all those guys don’t mean anything to the new socialist. They think they were right wing zealots, not the social progressives that they were.
The left wants your guns because that is what thier propaganda has taught them. What needs to be looked at is what is taught will happen when the guns are gone.
The opposition is not stupid, they are focused, like a laser beam on the objective, and they have fooled the conservatives into thinking that the threat is local and extremist, when it is international and common.
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:54pmOne issue Im not worried about. The gun owners & gun advocates in this country by sheer number
form the largest standing army in the entire world.
Try to restrict the 2nd amendment and you’ll have entire states in open revolt —- TN, WVA, TX, SC, GA
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Techcon
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:55pmDear NRA,
Go after the ACLU!
They’re the ones keeping these nut-jobs on the streets!
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jblaze
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 4:16pmWhy are “We The People” giving the Federal Government voice to something that was written as the law of the land; that they, the Government could neither change nor alter???? How can those that the law was expressly written against now put their hand forth and strike out against it without national resistance? This is a States’ issue NOT a federal government issue! If you do not stand up now against this Dictator of a President, you are all finished as free men.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 4:33pmStill like to hear more about the ATF involvement with the gun shop as well as the guy they found in the woods wearing camo. Not going tin foil hat, just want the media to do its job. Ahem, Blaze, “part of the solution” please.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:12pmHere’s a mocking video in response to the “Demand A Plan” celebrity video that will do absolutely nothing to help curb these massacres:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvy7CD4GPo
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:33pmThe bizarre paranoia and irrational thought is out in force tonight. Progressiveslayers (nice handle, although why the plural “slayers”?) says that liberals, “…think a gun free zone will ensure their safety and that government should confiscate all firearms,like I said they’re ignorant.”
Of no one has proposed or believes in “confiscating all firearms.” Nobody. And yet you, Slayer, believe that! Now Mr. slayer of progressives, if you have a basis for that belief, perhaps a quote from a Democrat in Congress or the President expressing that idea, you could sure post it here couldn’t you? But you can’t. It’s simply is paranoid fantasy. You’d know that if you could comprehend the discussion on gun control in the news and in this country. That, apparently, is beyond your the bubble of your paranoid existence.
Given your detachment from reality I wonder how functional you could possible be in the real world. I know in your mind you are prepared to slay progressives, but are you able to dress yourself in the morning, prepare food, and support yourself with a job?
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 10:38pm@gobewiththemeteors The maniac in CT caused all that mayhem in less than ten minutes. He killed all his victims within less than 25 feet. It doesn’t matter if we ban every rifle and shotgun; all makes and models. Say we ban all long guns, regardless of firing power. The supreme Court ruled in Heller that a handgun is the common gun in use by the people for lawful self defense, wherefore it may not be prohibited, as was done in DC. And as you have just conceited, all firearms will not be confiscated or outlawed. Now, upon these facts, and considering only handguns are legal. Can not the maniac in CT have caused the same damage with two .45 semi-automatic pistols, 16 rounds each, within the same time, and same firing distance? Of course he could have. Banning “assault rifles” would have not and will not prevent, deter or reduce the outcome of that tragedy. Hell, after all that, we still have yet another problem. The police weren’t there in time to do anything to prevent, deter or reduce the outcome of that tragedy, and there’s nothing we can do to guarantee immediate police assistance. Wherefore, the maniac could have come in with a machete and smoke grenade and caused the same damage within the same time. Until you confront these issues and systematically disintegrate them, you can’t deny that these progressive policies are nothing but feel good do nothing laws that only give the illusion of security and safety but confront and impose neither.
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kuala1313
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:09pmThe problem with gun control is there is no middle ground for reasonable discussion and compromise. As the owner of dozens of firearms including many that have been previously banned, I like most gun owners am not afraid of improved regulations, background checks and registration. What scares everyone who owns anything other than a hunting rifle or shotgun is a ban of any kind. Bans are pointless without confiscation and that can lead to making criminals out of those unwilling to sacrifice any liberty just to pacify fear. I had to follow difficult regulations in order to obtain concealed carry permits in 3 states and 2 suppressors and have no problem with similar regulations for new purchasers of assault type weapons or hand guns as an alternative to any out right ban. Even auto weapons are not banned- just highly regulated. Unfortunately, the hard line uncompromising rhetoric of gun owners scare those who want to ban them to the point that they won’t listen either. Just reading some posts from gun owners actually even scares me. We can be our own worst enemy when we quit being the voice of reason. People like Piers Morgan or those fanatics who held up signs to disrupt the NRA press conference stand out like nut cases when confronted by logical intelligent and non emotional facts and potential solutions. When we sound like the nut cases we put our liberty in serious danger. We need to follow the example of the NRA and maintain professionalism in the emotional chaos.
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Trigus
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:36pmBefore any elected official talks about taking our guns. They should be the first to get rid of there armed security. From the lowest elected state official to the highest government official.
Then talk about taking guns.
Before american citizens talk about taking guns. They should demand all local, state, and federal law enforcement agencies should be disarmed and disbanded. Then talk about taking guns.
When we stop blaming the instrument – firearms, automobiles, box cutters, and airplanes for mass killings and address the contributing factors – alcohol, drugs, hollywood, music, video games, and mental illness. Then and only then will we stop these senseless acts of violence and murder.
Laws that forbid the carrying of arms… disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man. Jefferson’s “Commonplace Book,” 1774_1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:41amMacpappy — That reasoning still doesn’t work (we can point out) because if you disarm even a liberal public but then a supposedly “right-wing” (meaning tyrant; extreme liberal) dictator gets into power later, they could have their way with the populace like Hitler, etc. did. Hope this helps. :)
Send — Your post contained no actual content; it’s just obviously illogical doubt-casting, but I might as well repeat my question from before — what, then, are you actually proposing, if not all those things that liberals have proposed? What good does it do to deny that you’re proposing things that we disagree with, when you are coming on here as a critic of the things we believe in? Clearly you must disagree somewhere. So where, and why?
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 6:40amHey SENDTHEMETEORS,
I guess that it’s merely coincidental that the fine governor from the state of NY, Cuomo, just days ago said that he would not rule-out a plan of confiscation. OK, since that’s on the table, I’ll use one of the oilfield poker slang phrase from my youth,
“Throw down, buddy, show me what ya’ got!”
The Second Amendment was written-in to allow citizens to defend themselves from an oppressive government. And, if you’re as cute as your picture, I know that one of your gun-owning bachelor neighbors will take you in when the Sewer Rat-in-Chief makes his big move. Gun owners will suddenly become the “Flavor of the Month.”
“Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
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jiva
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 8:24amThe NRA is the enemy…the 2nd amendment is lordly worded, ambiguous and anachronistic…it needs to be REPEALED and firearms need to be regulated like any other deadly product on the consumer market…background checks for all purchases.. manditory safety and proficiency training and tests for all owners…recertification annually … …licensing for all owners …registration of all firearms …liability insurance for all owners…manditory secure storage and/or trigger locks…ban all large capacity mags…ban all bulk ammo sales…ban all internet sales…manditory reporting of all lost or stolen firearms….MERRY CHRISTMAS!
firearms.s…
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 8:55amJiva
The government does not give us the right to own firearms via the 2nd amendment. Those (the Bill of Rights) were rights we already have and the government is supposed to protect those rights.
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Trigus
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:36am@Jiva
“Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.”
George Washington
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CABERNETQHS
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:20pmHe is the NRA CEO, what did any of the media expect? If he doesn’t defend our gun rights, who will? He waited to make a statement out of respect for the victims, but he’s right. The most immediate action we can take as a society to protect our children at school, is to post an armed professional. It’s not the only problem we have, but addressing mental health and our culture of violence will take time.The psychos will then go elsewhere and we will all have to protect ourselves when in public. Sorry for anyone who wishes we could return to different times, this is where we are and we need to be prepared.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:17pmPROGRESSIVESLAYERS — hat is a great clip! I use it too and try to spread it around, everyone should see it, especially all of the liberals.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:20pmMACPAPPY — Yes the people are that STUPID.
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Racemosa7
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 12:24am“If it’s crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our schools to protect our children, then call me crazy,†LaPierre said.
No your not crazy just not thinking clearly. The socialist would love to have a policeman at every school, a pension plan for every guard, a union to organize them, and a citizenry that would pay for it broke or not. They could join the teachers union, strike for better benefits, and deployed to areas of ‘unrest” when needed.
Think about it LaPierre.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 2:15amThe “media machine” is known as the “chosen people” controlled Marxist Media ran by Judens as they spew out leftist propaganda.
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valiant1776
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 2:32am@JIVA All that didn’t stop Adam Lanza, and won’t stop any maniac from stealing a gun and bypassing all those useless stupid rules.
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GroverCleveland
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:27pmYou know where there was an armed guard on duty? Columbine.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:38pmand where was he?
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:39pmyou know little and try to progressive hustle much.
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:40pmYes let forget about that idea ..and while where at it ,get rid of the police too ,they are always showing up after the fact.
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:43pmIt was a sheriff’s deputy. He saw one of the murderers and called in backup, pin pointing where the murderer was. I don’t agree with LaPierre in that having armed police officers in schools is the best solution. Allowing teachers to be armed would be a better decision. A school in Texas is doing this the right way:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-tiny-tx-town-allows-teachers-to-carry-concealed-guns-we-can-protect-our-children/
“We don’t have money for a security guard, but this is a better solution,†Superintendent David Thweatt said. “A shooter could take out a guard or officer with a visible, holstered weapon, but our teachers have master’s degrees, are older and have had extensive training. And their guns are hidden. We can protect our children.â€
Harrold’s school board voted unanimously in 2007 to allow employees to carry weapons. After obtaining a state concealed-weapons permit, each employee who wants to carry a weapon must be approved by the board based on his or her personality and reaction to a crisis, Thweatt said.
Employees also must undergo training in crisis intervention and hostage situations. And they must use bullets that minimize the risk of ricochet, similar to those carried by air marshals on planes.
The superintendent won’t disclose how many of the school’s 50 employees carry weapons, saying that revealing that number might jeopardize school security.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:47pmvaliant1776 do you realy want teachers with guns ?
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:50pmIf someone in the school was actually armed to immediatelyprotect the children, lives would be saved. What do you think police arrive with, nun-chucks? No, Guns,
If a teacher or principle at least had a gun concealed, or in a locked safe, in the case for such emergencies, there would be a much greater chance to protect lives.
Here’s another incident:
“The Pearl High School shooting was a school shooting that took place on October 1, 1997 at Pearl High School in Pearl, Mississippi. The gunman, 16-year-old Luke Woodham, killed two students and injured seven others at his high school. Before the shooting at Pearl High School began, Woodham stabbed and bludgeoned his mother to death in his home.
The school’s assistant principal, Joel Myrick, retrieved a .45 pistol from his truck and, spotting him near the parking lot, shouted for Woodham to stop. Woodham instead got into a his mother’s car and tried to escape. Myrick, a US Army Reserve commander, detained Woodham until authorities arrived.â€
The principle prevented further harm, subjected the murderer, and was able to safely wait for the police to arrive. No one else was murdered or threatened while waiting for the police to arrive, and the murderer was quickly apprehended by an armed good guy. Had a teacher or staff member been allowed to exercise his natural right to self defense results would be different. Of course, only those examined and permitted would be able to conceal carry.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:51pmGROVERCLEVELAND, You quote well the writings found in Hot Air. Try reading the actual history of the basis of the 2nd Amendment without all of the hot air BS. Look more at the English right to bear arms from their Bill of Rights of 1689. This one was clearly written as an individual right. Either the English now violate their own rule of law, or it was repealed. I must confess that I currently have no idea.
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Frederick_Douglass_Republican
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:02pmAnd had there not been armed security at Columbine the death toll would have been much greater. The deputy exchanged fire more than once with them. Had the two not met armed resistance they would have killed many more and also had a chance to set off the bombs they never got to.
Armed deputies aren’t the only answer though. Teachers and administrators who step up should be allowed to attend tactical training and be licensed to carry concealed. Few will step up, but it doesn’t take more than a few per facility. A short term response is needed since we know it will happen again. Its not whether or not it will happen again but when. Allowing teachers and administrators to carry concealed is the only viable immediate response. It won’t happen though because that doesn’t fit the victimhood government-please-save-me dialogue dictated by the repress.
Long term action is re humanizing and teaching morals but that will also be flatly rejected by the repress and the leftists who run things.
First priority being self esteem+there is no God+someone else owes you+dehumanizing pornography online for all at any age to view+loss of respect for life via abortion on demand+endless hours of carnage in video games+epidemic use of psychotropic drugs = heartless soulless monsters who will kill for the sake of killing. People whos minds are functioning realize they need to defend themselves. They also see attempts to disarm good guys to protect us from monsters as insane or just evi
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:06pm@gyro I rather have a teacher in the care of 20+ children with a gun than allow an armed maniac in a room with 20+ defenseless children. I want for any madman that trespasses on school property to know that opposition will be met and force used.
The liberal’s stupidity must stop some day. When it comes to children, we put politics aside, and protect our children. Every damn elitist in Congress sends their kids to private schools with adequate security and armed guards.
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macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 2:04pmWhen I hear so called Conservatives advocate putting guns in the hands of teachers, thus giving said teacher the “right” to decide when to take life makes shivers run down my back. Because I understand that the left has won, when conservatives say to arm one of the largest unions in the United States, and one of the most violent unions against our constitutional ideals. Have you looked in our school lately?
Do you really want to create another authoritarian body and give it the right to take life?
If you are a Conservative, then what may I ask are you conserving?
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mikenleeds
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 2:15pmThat s a bald faced lie , they was no armed guard on duty at Columbine high school the day of the attack of two mental deranged teenagers ,
if they was we d have 2 mental deranged teenagers dead and not innocent kids
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 3:36pm@MACPAPPY The right to self defense against a maniac, and the right to protect the lives of our children.
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liberalism_is_mental_retardation
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 6:23pmGrover you are a typical douche bag. Letting liberals lay out a tactical plan or approach is suicide. Which is why most liberals were sipping coffee at star bucks and blogging on their apple computers while their little gay ass smart car was parked outside. Meanwhile, we real men raised our right hands to defend your ***** ass because you are like most liberals, VICITMS. NO BALLS NO SPINE NO GUTS. but you all seem to know everything when it comes to life and death scenarios. Before you start thinking in a tactical way do the world a favor and go back to hiding your head in sand and make sure the hole fills with water. Freaking loser!!
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jhrusky
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 6:35pm@ mikenleeds
I’m not so sure the 2 shooters at Columbine were mentally deranged. From what has come out on this tragedy, they’d simply had enough of being pushed around, laughed at, ridiculed, and everything else by thugs (including some of the teachers) at their school. You do this to a kid long enough and some of them will snap and take any revenge they can. The media was quick to blame the guns and the kids and gave the teachers and other students who abused them a pass because we don’t want to hear the hard truth in these instances.
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macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:13pmThe right to self protection in not adhered to by arming a recepient class of union members. If a school district deems it is needed, then professional security needs to be hired for our schools. The idea of arming teachers is a knee jerk reaction. I suggest you go to your local school and meet the teachers and then see which one you would give a weapon to under any conditions.
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macpappy
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:17pm@mikeinleads
A blad faced lie, strong words. Seems like you would get your facts straight before speaking such.
Do your own research:
In 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold killed 15 people and wounded 23 more at Columbine High School. The destruction occurred despite the fact that there was an armed security officer at the school and another one nearby — exactly what LaPierre argued on Friday was the answer to stopping “a bad guy with a gun.”
Deputy Neil Gardner was a 15-year veteran of the Jefferson County, Colo., Sheriff’s Office assigned as the uniformed officer at Columbine. According to an account compiled by the police department, Gardner fired on Harris but was unsuccessful in stopping him.
The blad faced truth.
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Bum thrower
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 7:28pmLets declare within 1/4 mile of every school a “Gun Free Zone”. Problem solved!!!
Where is my ‘free stuff’?
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 10:52pm@MACPAPPY Eh, most armed police officers are union members. If a school district deems it necessary, then professional security needs to be hired, and if it deems it could better secure its facility with licensed, trained and certified teachers, then let them decide that. Here’s one school in Texas that has done just that: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/this-tiny-tx-town-allows-teachers-to-carry-concealed-guns-we-can-protect-our-children/ Do tell, what is so wrong with their initiative. The fact that there was a police officer present in those previous tragedies further confirms my position that armed teachers are better in such situations. I have never advocated for police officers to be mandatorily placed in every school through some federal program. That’s LaPierre’s position, which does not represent most gun owners or Conservatives. If you can’t trust a teacher with a gun, then what the hell are you doing sending your child to that person five days a week, six hours a day, in a closed classroom wherein most likely no other adult is present? You might as well home school your child. Besides, past all these points, is the fact the most private schools, government buildings, and other public facilities do provide security or armed personnel on the premises. So unless you start applying the same logic in those situations, and start demanding they also disarm, your counter arguments or presumptions are moot, or non productive towards any cause.
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Luzmaria1
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:23pmYou are correct, Wayne.
Without doubt, the msm has an agenda. However, it’s a lot more than the second amendment ….
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Polarized America
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:01pmit’s a ” HUGE” problem
the left is going after the 2nd Amendment
the right is talking about the 1st ..ie..video games..
and everyone is looking at the other Amendments that deal with privacy rights
who’s …Odd…who’s …Nuts…. etc…etc…etc….
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oldduffer
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:09pmTry, takeover a country for your leaders, without firing many shots, and only encountering token resistence, from leftover patriots too old to do anything. Except mount thier guns on their walkers.
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progressiveslayers
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:23pmHere’s an idea why don’t we have real journalists that do investigating to dig up corruption in government instead of having ‘journalists’ being the propaganda machine for whoever happens to be in the oval office with a D after their name. They’re nothing more than propagandist cheerleaders for the ‘D’ in the oval office and it’s been that way for years.
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M40-A1
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:29pmSecond that!
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 8:26pmMSNBC: People Against Gun Control Are Scared Of ‘Black And Brown People’ Rising Up To Get Them…
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/12/22/msnbc-people-against-gun-control-are-scared-of-black-and-brown-people-rising-up-to-get-them/
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lisalake
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:21pmWhy oh why can’t we talk about our gun rights in relation to the CONSTITUTION? I am so sick of hearing the same lame talking points from even the NRA and other advocates.. why aren’t they talking more about our BILL of Rights? Why won’t they hammer home what our rights are really about?? Remind people over and over again about the millions slaughtered by governments across the globe??? WHY are they talking about HUNTERS????? Why aren’t they talking about why we are the greatest country ever because of our CONSTITUTION?? Why aren’t they talking about the UN’s plan to take away our rights?? MAKE THESE COMMUNISTS say out loud on TV over and over that they want to abolish our CONSTITUTION??!
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GroverCleveland
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:35pmLet’s talk about the Bill of Rights. The first ten amendments were reluctantly penned by Mr. Madison to answer anti-federalist fears and complaints about the proposed constitution. One of those fears was the rise of a large standing army. Anti-federalists thought that the military potential of the new nation should locate itself in state militias, which were more democratic in their nature, and which dissolved when not needed. The 2nd Amendment was written to appease anti-federalists, and to help ensure that the nation would not develop a large professional army, an idea which the people feared and hated. So you see in its intent, the 2nd Amendment is an utter failure. It fails as a safeguard of liberty, and for that reason should be subject to scrutiny. It is not merely a vestige of a very different past, but a weak an ineffectual piece of political art.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:40pmthe media won’t allow their whores to say it on tv.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:43pmthere you go! Trying to reason with the mentally unstable again.
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:45pmGrover
You need to move to China and be a part of ‘political art’ in action.
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lisalake
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:46pmHey Grover.. the supreme court agrees with me.
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:14pm@grosscleveland Have you ever heard of the Continental Army, which was separate from state militias?
The Congress of the Confederation officially created the United States Army on June 3, 1784. The Constitution was adopted on September 17, 1787. The Bill of Rights came into effect as Constitutional Amendments on December 15, 1791. The US Army had already been formed when the Bill of Rights was ratified. The state militia is not dependent on the non-existence of a federal army, but is a necessary safe guard for all time.
Only Congress, not states, had the power to raise and support Armies. Article 1, Section 10, reads, “No State shall… keep Troops,†The militia was not made up of enlisted soldiers, nor was its existence intended to form some kind of inferior army, but consisted of called upon able-body private citizens.
“The militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves… all men capable of bearing arms…†– “Letters from the Federal Farmer to the Republicâ€, 1788 (either Richard Henry Lee or Melancton Smith)
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:14pmSupreme Court Joseph Story was appointed by President James Madison, the Father of the Constitution. Joseph Story was present during the Revolution and ratifying of the federal Constitution, and was one of the most influential early commentators on the US Constitution. In his Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, vol. 3 at pp. 746-747 (1833), he has the following to say about the Second Amendment,
“The importance of this article will scarcely be doubted by any persons, who have duly reflected upon the subject. The militia is the natural defence of a free country against sudden foreign invasions, domestic insurrections, and domestic usurpations of power by rulers. It is against sound policy for a free people to keep up large military establishments and standing armies in time ofanding armies in time of peace, both from the enormous expenses, with which they are attended, and the facilee means, which they afford to ambitious and unprincipled rulers, to subvert the government, or trample upon the rights of the people. The right of the citizens to keep and bear arms has justly been considered, as the palladium of the liberties of a republic; since it offers a strong moral check against the usurpation and arbitrary power of rulers; and will generally, even if these are successful in the first instance, enable the people to resist and triumph over them…â€
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:19pm“…And yet, thought this truth would seem so clear, and the importance of a well regulated militia would seem so undeniable, it cannot be disguised, that among the American people there is a growing indifference to any system of militia discipline, and a strong disposition, from a sense of its burthens, to be rid of all regulations. How is it practicable to keep the people duly armed without some organization, it is difficult to see. There is certainly no small danger, that indifference may lead to disgust, and disgust to contempt; and thus gradually undermine all the protection intended by this clause of our national bill of rights.â€
BTW, “well regulated†means properly disciplined, equipped and trained. The Bill of Rights does not only protect an armed citizenry, but demands that they be from time to time properly trained in the use of arms.
The second Amendment was, not too long ago, used by Maryland’s Governor as just intended. He encouraged and asked private Maryland state citizens to remain armed and to join local gun clubs in order to stay well trained. He asked for volunteers to be ready if ever called. Read the speech here:
http://marylandshallissue.org/get-informed/historical-information/preparing-maryland-invasion-ww2/
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Bruce P.
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 6:01pmGROVERCLEVELAND — I see your point but I do not agree with it as the Second Amendment was not simply to safeguard against the dangers of a standing army (something I think we should scrutinize intensely…). However, I will respectfully disagree with you, as it seems many here are incapable of doing.
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ek1
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:20pmIf liberals were really serious about the death of children, they would be for scalpel control, forceps control, scissors control and vacuum control.
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Redhawke
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:10pmI watched this interview. The “journalist” stayed stuck on his ban the magazines drivel.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:44pmit’s all about the magazines. Slow push. Sun Tzu style.
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valiant1776
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:05pmWe must repeal the gun-free school zone act, and allow school boards and local school districts to decide for themselves whether to allow certified, trained, licensed teachers to carry concealed, or hire professional security guards. What we can’t allow is for no security measures to be made or improved. Our children will be left like sitting ducks for any maniac to just walk in and cause any kind of havoc. If any politician disagrees then he should immediately demand that their children in private schools be disposed of any protection consisting of armed school staff or guards. Let these progressive pigs disarm and unsecured the government buildings where they work, if guns are so evil.
These liberal’s, and the ACLU, gave someone who is a threat to society a free pass to walk around all over town unsupervised. Once again, we as a nation are reaping the consequences of these stupid polices passed by progressives. The left is to blame for allowing maniacs like Adam Lanza to roam the streets freely. The left is to blame for allowing schools to remain unsecured and become easy targets for vicious intruders intent on causing mayhem. You should be damned outraged that a group of thieves and self righteous, know nothing, idiots have taken over this nation. It’s time to start the presses, and expose these progressives for what they really are.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:44pmmost of them are sitting ducks at home with maniacs for parents.
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burnteye86
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:05pmThen they should make all Federal property gun free zones too. No armed guards for the Capitol building or the Congress.No armed guards for Palosi or Reid either
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:15pmstop picking on the 1%
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:01pmVery true, and in the age of “low information” masses, what the leftist media preaches for the god-king Obama and his high priesthood of the Democratic party becomes ‘truth’ even when they know it is nothing more than ‘lies.’
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:13pmquote
even when they know it is nothing more than ‘lies.
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repeat lie over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over then ITS THE TRUTH
Then even they believe thier own lies
Vote obama he will NEVER raise taxes on the middle class !!!!
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Lordchamp
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:01pmThat’s the biggest problem here.
With liberals it’s ALL about emotions…no logic, no critical thinking, no personal responsibility.
That way they can appeal to the “low information public”, translated ignorant, useful idiots.
That’s all they have…emotions and emotional responses.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:45pmthat is called mentally ill…GET IT!!!!
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:01pmThis media is controlled by whom?
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Redhawke
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:08pmYou haven’t figured that out yet?
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:13pmStatists. It matters not what their religious ideologies are, they are statists.
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jungle J
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:46pmthe media controls government…wake up and move out of the dark ages.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:27pm@Redhawke
So you know who must be trying to take away the American’s Rights that were bought and paid for with American Blood.
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Redhawke
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 3:01pmIt is not as much a who as it is an ideology. This ideology has gone by many names in the past. Today it is called Progressivism (often spelled using a D, sometimes spelled using a R).
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banjarmon
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:56amSo True!! Libs blame gun rather than their liberal teachings on behavioral problems and mainstreaming of all kids in school.
Kids with mental problems get frustrated when they can’t do things like other students. They end up taking out that frustration which can happen with deadly consequences!
The other part of the speech talks about how the NRA is willing to spend time and money to train responsible people to help prevent killings like Sandy Hook, I’m for ONE am for the training and and arming of guards and or teachers.
If the government can protect the president of the US with guns, ARE NOT OUR KIDS MORE IMPORTANT TO US??
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Lordchamp
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:08pmYou are spot on. The NRA is heading in the right direction but why have to hire more police when we already have people in the schools. Just train and arm them. Are they not at least as competent as police when properly trained? Aren’t teachers trusted individuals? Let’s push for that and put it back on the liberals since they love teachers and education so much. Do they think teachers are less responsible than police?
Also, yes, when the president and other government officials give up their ARMED secret service and guards then I will consider giving up my guns. Until then, never.
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LukeAppling
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:54amAnything Republicans want the media is automatically against the system has been taken over by the progressive financed by Soros and his overly wealthy friends. We have lost our beloved country to an organization that wants America dead and forgotten with all history rewritten just as they have rewritten FDR, JFK , Clinton and , soon, Obama.
We must stop whining and get better people leading us.
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Dkoonz
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:51amKing Obama will try hard to take away all of the guns but lets hope there is enough of us gun owners to throw a monkey wrench into his plans.
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Independent4233
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:03pmWith more than 250 million guns in this country and adding to that every day, there’s a lot of people who oppose gun copntrol, because it’s a second amendment right, but mostly because it doesn’t work.
Violent, blood drenched movies and slaughterhouse-type videos are to blame far more than guns. However, the Hollywood bunch contributes so much money to the Democrats I doubt seriously that they will ever admit that these two genres need to be brought under control, so the carnage will continue.
Too, they’ll never admit that society has lost its moral base and needs it back.
Look to the Hollywood Taratinos and the Weinsteins who delight in helping to crush Western societies by encouraging their kind of bad influences.
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toomuchgovt
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:50amIf the media and hollywood had any brains, they would be joining with the NRA to fight for the 2nd amendment. Why? As history has taught us, first they will disarm the citizens, then they will ban “speech”, then control the press and we all know the rest of the story. Time to start joining these odd groups that the left has become so good at doing.
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Glennda
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:49amLaPierre. That sounds . . . French. I have a bad feeling about this guy. Clearly he’s a liberal plant-ophile doing his best to make gun owners look bad.
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:00pmWhat? He has been rattling cages for years. Just look at the letter re-circulating amongst the statists today…
http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:41pmHi Glennda or is it High Glennda?
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:46amThere’s a media machine that is anti-American, just like the Obama’s.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:51ammorning jurk –
the media is part of a plan
the plan is simple make people stupid and they will believe anything they are told
the only way around this is balenced education
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yup usa screwed !
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:08pmLAWYER629, LOL, please tell me that you don’t find that surprising.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:20pmRJJinGadsden you ever watch cnn ? no surprize there !!!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:43pmGYRO, I actually do occasionally. I generally flip through the channels checking CNN, CNN HLN, BSNBC, and Fox. Rarely bother with the regular three letter networks though.
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:45amThey will blame guns at the drop of a hat for tragedies such as Newtown, yet defend Democrats in tragedies such as our economy?
I am not surprised. They are at least consistent in the location they like to bury their collective heads.
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:42amMental patients are loose and no one really cares. Hells bells
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tj1961
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 12:39pmYou can thank Jerry Rivers for that(Geraldo Rivera’s REAL name). After his expose on the Willowbrook State Hospital What SHOULD of been done was to reform mental health facilities turned into CLOSING them
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:57pm@ AbrahamsSheepdog
Mental patients are loose and no one really cares. Hells bells
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Who says we don’t care? Hell, we elected them to hold public office, didn’t we?
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chips1
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:39amAny human that can manage to survive being murdered in the womb will spend the rest of it’s life trying to avoid the defenseless shooting galleries designed by liberals. Being alive is their biggest threat.
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dholio
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:39amI’m tired of all this gun control crap….This is just an opportunity and excuse for the government to disarm the people as part of their plan to turn us into slaves.
An armed society is a safe society.
If you take away the guns from law abiding citizens who obtained firearms LEGALLY, the country will be left with millions of criminals who have firearms that they obtained ILLEGALLY. And those criminals will have free reign to murder, rape, and steal from anyone they want with no way to stop them.
The government cannot protect us all, the police cannot protect us all.
If you don’t like guns, and think you can rely on the government and police to protect you then don’t buy a firearm.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:47amlogic like this is hard to argue
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ginger100
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:33amthe criminal problem flew off in a plane payed by his slave population, have a happy muslim, atheist, hanukkah, solstice, kwanza holiday mr preezy.
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:43amdid your xmas card from barry get lost in the mail?
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ginger100
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 10:03pmyep
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gyro
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:32amalso should be mentioned that there are people that stand up for guns all the time regardless of right or wrong
very tricky subject to keep emotions out of
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ginger100
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:36amguns are a right, talking about taking them away is wrong
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 1:43pm@ ginger100
More accurately, “self-defense” is a God-given right, taking that away is what’s wrong. The gun is just a tool to achieve that end.
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AbrahamsSheepdog
Posted on December 23, 2012 at 11:31amYup.
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