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Fury After Paper Publishes Names, Addresses of Legal Pistol Owners in New York
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New York’s “Journal News” ignited a fierce debate Sunday after publishing the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in two New York counties. They are actively working on acquiring data for a third county.
The article, titled “Map: Where are the gun permits in your neighborhood?,” reads:
The map indicates the addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties. Each dot represents an individual permit holder licensed to own a handgun — a pistol or revolver. The data does not include owners of long guns — rifles or shotguns — which can be purchased without a permit. Being included in this map does not mean the individual at a specific location owns a weapon, just that they are licensed to do so.
Data for all permit categories, unrestricted carry, premises, business, employment, target and hunting, is included, but permit information is not available on an individual basis.
To create the map, The Journal News submitted Freedom of Information requests for the names and addresses of all pistol permit holders in Westchester, Rockland and Putnam. By state law, the information is public record.
Putnam is still putting together its records and could not immediately provide any data. The map will be updated when that data is released. [Emphasis added]
Here is what the map for Rockland County looks like (note: the image below is a screen shot, so clicking on the dots will not reveal the personal information like in the original):
(Photo: Lohud.com)
A map for Westchester county is also visible on the site.
Unlike with the above map, however, on the Journal News website, you can click on any one of the dots and get the full name and exact address of the permit holder.
AMI Global Security, which published an article condemning the “massive privacy breach” that is “meant to intimidate the lawful” and “abrogate the Bill of Rights,” collected a few of the first comments:
“If the homeowner is killed or injured, will LOHUD be charged as an accomplice to the crime?”
“It is as if they put out an ad to jewel thieves listing the names and addresses of where to find diamonds and cash.”
“This is CRAZY!! why in the world would you post every licensed gun owner information?? What do you hope to accomplish by doing this? This is the type of thing you do for sex offenders not law abiding gun owners. What next? should I hang a flag outside my house that says I own a gun?”
“Now everyone knows where the LEGAL GUNS are kept, a valuable piece of information for criminals. Why don’t you do something helpful, like trying to find out where the ILLEGAL GUNS are kept? That would be helpful to the non-criminal population”
AMI Global Security also added recent “threats from local government” with regard to guns.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said last week, as the nation still shook from the tragedy at Sandy Hook, that he was considering new gun control measures when it came to “assault” weapons in the state:
“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”
This is not the first time the journal news has published the private information of gun holders. They pulled a similar stunt back in 2006, but that time, they only published names and municipalities– not exact street addresses.
(H/T: Gateway Pundit)
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Comments (661)
crystalsky
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmLove the kids you are right they all ought to sue them because they not only know who the good people who own guns are but know they know who don’t have them or did not register them. Sue there asses off for attempted Murder. The ones at those community’s need to get together and sue the paper and there internet pages. I would say they should get a good chunk of change. Merry Christmas New York Citizens.
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Maji
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:14pmSupprised??
These people will “pimp their mothers” for a political point!!
Look at bill marher…a street clown with a tv show.
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AmericanFightingMan1
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:14pmNY government and whacko marxists can go F themselves.
No compromise on this issue. Gotta turn and make a stand somewhere. Here is good by me.
The marxists did the same thing on the gay marriage issue; publish personal info to intimidate.
They will push and push and push until you fall off the cliff. Got to turn and fight them. Face them down. Most will turn and run.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:23pmthis is why you don’t get “permits” to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.
It isn’t a right if you have to ask permission. I would sue the paper and then suer the agency that released the info.
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TopFlightSecurity
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:33pmThis is why if you are a real American you don’t live in states like NY!
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Patrick in AZ
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:40pmPerhaps every employee of the journal should be listed on a map – with a note that says, it is safe to assume that they are unarmed.
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MLeo
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:48pmThis was, no doubt, published with approval and encouragement by Cuomo and Holder.
Not only are legal registrants specified, but, by inference, those who are not are thus also indicated. Those endangered are both those who are and are not on ‘the List’. Will Cuomo, Holder and Obama publish lists of other categories, too, via this newspaper? Salaries? Work schedules? Names of relatives? Party affiliation? (Or is party affiliation assumed to be in opposition to ‘the Obama,’ by virtue of being on this ‘List’)?
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Keatonc333
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:49pmBut i thought owning a gun was a crime deterrent… shouldn’t they be thanking this paper?
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:50pmYeah, it SOUNDS so good, the liberal arguments — “Oh, we juuuuust want to REGISTER the guns… we don’t want to publish that information, and we CERTAINLY don’t want to confiscate.” And then look what happens.
I think at the very least if they do not sue, they should look into how this paper got this information and whether that was part of the agreements that were made when people bought the guns. Of course, even if they were, it’s not justified, but it would be good to know if what this organization and/or the government did was against explicitly written laws and contracts. If a gun owner wants to opt to inform the world that they own (same with permits), then that’s their choice, and theirs alone, by rights.
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dissentnow
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:50pmThis is nazi-level propaganda. They are conditioning us to turn in our neighbors
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:55pmThe JOURNAL NEWS would never publish a list of those with HIV?
How about a list of doctors that do abortions, and where they live?
How about child molesters, rapists, and other sexual predators?
The MSM is now the mouthpiece for Obama and Socialism. They will stop at nothing to destroy our constitution.
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deadb4red
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:57pmI have a simple way to deal with this news paper…fight fire with fire. Get a list of all the employees who work at the Journal along with their address and phone numbers. Also include their family members. Verify whether or not they are on the gun permit list that the Journal published (mark each name accordingly). Then send a copy of this list to every permitted gun owner who was listed by the Journal. Finally send a copy of the Journal’s employee list of addresses to each prison inmate in the state of New York identifying those who have a weapons permit and those who don’t. Problem will correct itself.
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BSdetector
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:59pmWell if any criminal is looking for a nice legal gun to steal and use in a crime, they now know which houses to break into during the day while the responsible people are out working.
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hallkbrdz
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:10pmCriminals now know who NOT to rob. Good job guys.
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steelpanther
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:16pmThey are doing this so their paid protesters can go to these houses and make these people miserable so that they just shut up and sit down.
You don’t think it’ll come down to these OWS types hiding outside these peoples homes, stalking them following them around shouting obscenities constantly, follow these people to work and disrupt everything there to get these people fired.
They will act just like or worse then the gays did in that one town/state in the North East, they will make life hell for all those that don’t fall in line. This is what this is all about.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:22pmFrankly, I do not understand all of the uproar here. If anybody should be pissed its those who are unarmed in the area. And, considering that NY is a “May Issue” state as opposed to a “Will Issue” state only those with the financial and political clout, or security job descriptions will be armed. This map tells the bad guys which homes to avoid. I just wonder how many professional criminals will be taken into custody with a copy of this map on them? It is the unarmed citizen (also know as a subject) who this media outlet did a disservice.
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booger71
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:23pmThis is why I buy from individual sellers not a dealer. .
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JohnQTaxpayer
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:26pmWell, now you know who has a pistol, impressive.
Ok criminals; spin the wheel of does the non-pistol owners have a shot gun, or other home defense gun waiting for you?
Choose wisely, I live in NY, go ahead punk pick my house.
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:27pmKeaton, you liberals are always arguing just on the border of what illogical claims of yours haven’t been completely exploded, but never admitting “I was wrong the other day”. This is highly dishonest. Just the other day it was “nobody’s talking about confiscating.” (It’ll be interesting to see if SendTheMeteors will publicly admit he was wrong on that one.)
But as usual, even the arguments you libs do still feel safe to use have already been debunked by others. Just read the comments around yours! Specifically: the “mystery” of who does and doesn’t have a guns is an even better deterrant than telling the criminals who to avoid and who (by process of elimination) it’s likely safer to hit. And if you’d just stop and think honestly for a moment before posting blathering defensiveness of liberalism however you can, you’d realize that easily.
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RabidPatriot
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:38pmThe sheep are starting to get distracted by Christmas, shopping and bowl games. Soon, Sandy Hook will be replaced by Superbowl commercials and Obama will need fresh blood to forward his agenda.
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jgary
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:41pmI’m sure Bloomberg would confiscate the money..
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Silvertruth
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:44pmYou can’t ‘sue’ the government agency for this. A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request was used to obtain the information.
Perhaps every named, law-abiding gun owner, should show up at the newspaper and the homes of the editors, reporters and owners of the newpaper, make use of the public property in front of them and demonstrate their dislike of abusing public resources for private agendas.
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:53pm“You can’t ‘sue’ the government agency for this. A Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request was used to obtain the information.”
Not so fast — that was my gut reaction too, but a lawyer should scrutinize every word of the contracts and laws leading up to that. It is not safe to just assume this information was legally given into a database that Freedom of Information applies to. A gun purchase is a contract of sales between a private business and a private individual. It should be more akin to personal identifying information like social security numbers which may NOT be given out via FOIA.
Even if the laws were set up so that it could go into that database, that should be changed.
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txbigfoot
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:56pmkeep your gun but permit it.. I say well F U
I own it and passed what ever I needed to buy it. Screw you if you want a pansy permit.
I just sold all of them. Now what?
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edcoil
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:09pmI’d say that is one safe neighborhood.
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:13pmEdcoil, it may only seem that dense due to how far out it’s zoomed and the size of the dots. Not sure, though.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:32pmKEATONC333 You are so F-ing stupid, I would just love to slap the s*^t out of you!
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JediKnight
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:33pm@Bones: As the article points out, this doesn’t prove ownership of a weapon. In NY, they’ve made it a requirement that you get a permit to purchase a weapon. This map is of permit holders. While it’s highly unlikely that anyone would get a permit without buying a weapon afterward, this map does not show those that have purchased weapons. Whatever “contract” was made by these individuals, it was with the state (or maybe city) of NY, not with gun dealers.
This is a perfect example of why gun registration or permits are bad. This is essentially a government database of every gun owner in the area. I’m sure the federal government would love to have something like this. They could easily use it to confiscate every firearm in the country.
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Buddynoel
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:43pmThis is a state issue, but all states need to look closely at this and pass laws preventing the distribution of license data, especially when it comes to concealed-carry permits. You can stop FOIA issues if you have the state law in place to do so. Some may require voter approval and language to their constitution, not an impossible feat either.
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dmerwin
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:49pmApparently, there is no right to privacy in New York.
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NOT A CRAZY
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:50pmBlanket party time!!!
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paperpushermj
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:01pmSo when will the paper publish a list of homes in the area with security alarms ?
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Wiley41
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:13pmIf this had been a list of all houses where a person lives who filed for a homosexual marriage license then I assure you the publishers would be brought up on criminal hate crime charges
How on earth can anyone think it is 1) legal and/or 2) smart to publish this information?
Other theater of the absurd, lets see the houses of all:
- people who voted for Obama (love to hear the MSM go nuts over ‘targeting’ districts then)
- people arrested for disturbing the peace during Occupy Protests
- all convicted felons
- all people on Welfare ( wouldn’t that make the progressives pissed)
- all people on Social Security Disability
- all ObamaFon owners
- all people convicted of DUI/DWI
- everyone ever charged with a drug crime
- all men over 17 who have not enrolled in the draft
- all women who had an abortion
- all people receiving free contraception from the govt
- all people on food stamps
- all atheists
- all schizophrentics
- all unemployed
- all illegal aliens
- all Muslims
- all people with a Sociology Degree
- all people with a Women’s Studies Degree
- all blacks
- all divorced people
- all union members
- all registered democrats
- all people delinquent on student loan debt
- all users of ‘medicinal marijuana’
- all people who paid zero income tax the previous year
- all households with a child who is suspended or expelled from school
- all people who applied for conscientious objector status
IN SHORT: if you cannot honestly say you w
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Wiley41
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:18pmSo as above, if are not comfortable with having ALL of the above information posted then why should we allow gun ownership to be posted. Guess second amendment means nothing. and wasn’t it the leftists that ‘discovered’ the right of privacy in the constitution. Where are they on this issue
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Starkadder
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:27pmIsn’t that just a list of LEGAL gun owners?
I’m pretty sure your average gang banger does not have his Saturday night special registered. Just guessing, but I surmise that this list is not only useless but highly inaccurate. Inaccurate because it does not (and cannot) account for criminal gun ownership, and useless because the vast overwhelming majority of gun violence is committed CRIMINALS who don’t obey pesky laws like registering a firearm.
Actually it does these law abiding Citizens a favor by publicly giving notice that they are armed and therefore are more dangerous to victimize. I wouldn’t be a bit surprised to find a criminal origination using this map to either target these homes for burglary (to get the guns) or to target the gun less and undefended homes.
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t00nces2
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:32pmPerhaps every person who does not own a gun should sue the paper for letting criminals know who is unprotected.
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Wolf
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:02pmBS Detector…” Well if any criminal is looking for a nice legal gun to steal and use in a crime, they now know which houses to break into during the day while the responsible people are out working….”
They also know which houses to stay away from, just in case they aren’t at work as expected. Rather, they can go to the house next door, especially the ones with ‘gun free zone’ signs on the windows, doors and in the yard.
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Wolf
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:08pmPatrickinAZ says, “…Perhaps every employee of the journal should be listed on a map – with a note that says, it is safe to assume that they are unarmed….”
This is pretty much like Bill Clinton’s Rules of Engagement theory: ‘Unintended Consequences’ of being a member of the liberal commie press corps government mouthpiece organizations.
These people don’t understand that they are much of the problem, and what goes around truly does come around. Sometimes in ways not appreciated.
So let them blather and connive and continue their childish behavior. When the ropes begin to stretch, rest assured their will be some doing the stretching.
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flyoverbob
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:15pmI don’t see the problem for gun owners,I have a sign in my window informing I will put you down if you enter
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:20pm“By state law, the information is public record.”
You can’t sue somebody for making public information more easily available.
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Silvertruth
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:36pmYour name and address are not “private” to government agencies. They are available on tax records, post office transactions, etc. Only “Personally Identifyable Information ” or PII is considered non FOIA accessible. This includes Social Security Numbers, Credit Card information, Health History (HIPAA compliance issues), and any sealed court activity. Other than that, fair game.
That is why the Democrats were able to publish Republican Political donor and candidate addresses, it’s also been used by Republicans so neither party can claim the high road here.
Is it alarming that such information is readily available- yes, completely alarming, but not illegal.
Check out many of the information sharing websites, they have so much info on you it will make your head spin. Before you freak out about that, and Google search something, remember Google keeps a list of what you search, where you surf off of Google and what you shop for.
Nothing you do is private folks. If you want privacy, unplug and go live in a cave in Montana someplace and hope someone doesn’t report you as a Sasquatch sighting!
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bonesiii
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:42pmJediknight — social security numbers are registered with the government as well and FOIA does not grant anyone access to them. The permit is taken out by a private individual for the express purpose of becoming able to legally purchase a gun from a private business. The involvement of government does not automatically guarantee FOIA access.
This is different from records about an elected representative or government appointee. That is the sort of thing where a person goes into a job knowing they are by name accountable to the people they work for. That’s what FOIA is for. But these are private individuals. Unless a lawyer can definitively pin down a regulation that allows this, I’m not convinced. :) (And even if they could, that still wouldn’t make it right of course.)
I agree with you otherwise, just don’t want us giving ground that we should not justly be giving. :) The liberals probably would love nothing more than for us to just assume it qualifies under FOIA and roll over, even if we whine about it. In any case, it should be scrutinized by an independent expert; that’s all I’m saying basically. :)
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turkey13
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 6:24pmThis is no big deal – Bloomie amd Maurio only let bodyguards have free gun permits. All others must pay about $1,200 so that means no poor folks have one and are on the list. I do agree that all those that aren’t on the list had better put their valulables in the safety deposit box and the thugs will avoid these addresses that are on it.
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hotmonkeylovejunkie
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 6:47pmyep, all those legally permitted and displayed should get together and create a lawsuit. without a doubt. America and Americans NEED to take a stand on their freedoms and any infringement upon them. the silence is deafening.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 7:22pmLiberals have no honor, no dignity & no decency.
At his point publish the names, addresses & net worth of Handgun Control Incorporated members.
Do the same with Code Pink
Do the same with AVAAZ members.
Do the same with every liberal group.
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Female
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 8:00pmSally Mae liberal to neighbor, Mary Alice Gunowner: “Hey Mary, I was reading the journal and well, I noticed your name on that map…. if I hear a bump in the night, will you come over with your gun? You’re 15 seconds away, where as the police are 15 minutes.”
“Oh, come-on don’t hold it against me for destroying your Republican yard signs….remember, 15 years ago I return a letter addressed to you.”
If I was living in any of these disclosed counties, and was in anyway affected by a death directly related to the disclosure: I would want the paper charged with “Negligent Homicide” and all parties sued to emotional distress and damages.
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Female
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 8:05pmI wonder if any of the disclosed are in law enforcement? They don’t like to give out their addresses.
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1389AD
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 8:17pmEvery possible argument in favor of gun control has already been REFUTED.
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pondfrog
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:09pm305 Employees names for Lohud Journal news if anyone has a premium account they can get the names do a little research on addresses then post them to “non owned” public site somehow.
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henryKnox
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:33pmPeople like Keaton333 must be so full of hate that they can’t understand the difference between good and evil. Why would anyone wish harm to their neighbors? Why would anyone punish the good guys every time the bad guys harm someone? I think it could be because they are cowards and are afraid of confronting the bad guys.
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rickc34
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:41pmLaw suit against the paper yes., but on the other hand now the criminals know who does not own a gun in this area, so Merry Christmas to those that do not own a weapon to protect your families because the bad guys know who you are now.
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swalt2493
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:50pmHey KEATON333!!! Post your address here! Then we can ALL personally thank you for your comment!
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Becks_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 10:00pm“New York’s “Journal News” ignited a fierce debate Sunday after publishing the names and addresses of pistol permit holders in two New York counties. They are actively working on acquiring data for a third county.”
This is it, people. It’s got the smell “Cass Sunstein: The Most Dangerous Man In America”. This is the “nudge” becoming the “push”. The Progressives(communists) in government are setting the stage for their final take-down of America. If you don’t know WHY this is happening, Glenn Beck names the traitors and exposes their conspiracy:
“DICTATORSHIP PLAN For America 2012!! :: Glenn Beck Names The TRAITORS & Exposes Their CONSPIRACY!!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAu_-UmERuo
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banjarmon
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 10:30pmFix up a sign… I OWN a GUN! My neighbor Dose Not! Who do you wanT to ROB??
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70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 11:29pmIf you cant find certain addressees follow them home. We need to peacefully show these COMMUNIST FASCIST hypocrites we will no longer take their fascism!!!
TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!!!!!!
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Patrick Henry II
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 11:30pmWe don’t register guns in my state.
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decendentof56
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 11:35pm“Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option.”…Cuomo
Kicking your **** would be another!
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Cemoto78
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 12:23amYou can complain to the editor and columnist right here:
https://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/tag/gracia-martore-publisher-gannet-home-address-and-telephone-number/
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Johnny 7 OMA
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 12:51amWe shall turn our firearms into whistles and flutes and dance our way to the gas chambers.
Johnny Walker
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SUNTZU
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 1:34amJust to help out the bad guys .
Now they know where the guns are not
easy to Burn,Rape ,Pillage,and Kill
Thanks for the Info on the gun free zones.
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doubletap
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 1:36amKeatonc333, let me spell it out for you. Now the criminals know which houses are safe to break into or where to steal guns to use in other crimes. Either way this is giving to much info for the bad guys to use.
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GEW
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 1:37amSomeonee on yahoo pages under their 12,500.& countingpost… posted the entire staff, names, addresses, and phone numbers. All of them he claims it’s “under freedom of information act.”
I am wondering how long it will be before yahoo deletes post. I know I sure wouldn’t want to be one of those people now….could be quite a Christmas morn.
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bonesiii
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 2:55am1389AD, major thanks for that link. I learned a lot from that article. HIGHLY recommended reading. =D Indeed, the critics of gun rights are the emperor with no clothes.
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Trigus
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 7:03am@RJJ You are correct.
Criminals prey on the weak and unarmed.
If you are afraid of The Government coming to your house and taking your firearm. Well, do what we do: We remind the local and state law enforcement agencies (Yes this is who the government will send) of the OATH:
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
5 U.S.C. §3331
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 7:54amOkay KEATON, post your full name and address, and whether or not you have a gun. You are a blind fool. and the sad part is, you’re choosing to be a blind fool.
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poorrichard09
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 9:32amYes, sue their butts off, then-
How about publishing a map with the names and addresses of the people who run and work at the newspaper. After all, it’s public record.
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M4-A1
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 9:34amHere is what someone needs to do, publish or put on the internet everyone’s name who works at this paper. Name address, phone numbers. I mean it is all public record…….
See how they take to having their info broadcast to the world.
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Taquoshi
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 10:17amI’m concerned because there are probably the names and addresses of police officers on there and the names and addresses of people who have taken out restraining orders against others and have been living quietly at an unlisted address with a gun for protection.
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bamanana
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 10:30amNot only have they published names of American citizens who are exercising their rights to bear arms, the sheeps clothing has come off & their agenda revealed who the MSM really are! We have to boycott the advertisers who keep these mouthpieces for the Marxist regime on the air!
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SLAPTHELEFT
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 11:28amBravo Keaton! Brilliant point!
Thank you journal. Now the criminals know who not to target. Of course I’m sure you’re not listed so I’d make sure I locked up real tight if I was you.
Now curl up in the fetal position with a romantic novel and leave the fight for liberty to the real Americans.
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Baerlin
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 11:45amLiberals truly are idiots. No idea what point this is supposed to make but I would feel much safer knowing that there were weapons in my neighborhood. At what point in your adult life do you wake up and make such stupid decisions and decide these are good ones? I’m for listing the names and addresses of drs that perform abortions. 55,000,000 deaths since 1973.
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Lonescrapper
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 6:45pmI don’t think this is going to help them the way they think it will. What is anyone going to do if they know their neighbor has a handgun? I’m not sure what this logic was behind this move. It doesn’t seem very well thought out.
http://www.noellecampbell.com
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snooop1e
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 11:12amSo now criminals can use this map to ensure that they don’t target homes/businesses with guns. Just imagine if ever dot on that map joined together and filed a lawsuit against the New York Journal.
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PATTY HENRY
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 12:02pmWhat is MORE dangerous than guns/Owners/Addresses information is the OWNERS/ADDRESSES part.. like the criminal who can now come to the door and say “Mrs. Adams?” or I have a delivery here for the ADAMS family… and dupe unsuspecting housekeeper etc. into opening the door.
Aren’t there PRIVACY laws that protect us? First of all, I would sue them from here to hell; Secondly I would make sure that every advertiser for them that I also did business with was aware that I would be finding other vendors – boycotting the advertisers and even the commercial businesses that would allow this dumb A. paper to have dispensing stands. Boycott seems to be the only way we, the people, have of letting these jerks know we will not have our lives, information used for their purposes. I hope this paper is out of business in three months or less.
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naughtycal
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 12:04pmNow criminals will know which houses to hit if they need or want to aquire another gun…..GOD WORK YOU SOCIALIST JERKS
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LoPhat
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 5:29pmFEMA needs to know where the guns are in order to assemble the right team to kick in doors at 3:00 AM to arrest the people that had the unbridled audacity to legally protect family, loved ones and property.
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bonesiii
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:58amThat’s a very good point, Patty Henry. What about things like unlisted phone numbers? Surely they don’t have the right to give out the names. Pretend for a moment that the rest is okay, but the names?
And addresses is another thing.
Why not just the number of total permit holders? Why not just do that? That shouldn’t be a problem. Nobody would have objected. Why the names and addresses — what good does that do… none.
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Helaman
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:15pmNobody believed me that when they started posting sex offenders online that this would be just the start. Now gun owners have just been put in the same category as sex offenders. So how does it feel?
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Thomas_Jefferson
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:11pmNew York’s “Journal News” must be racists against Naive Americans because my name is not on the map.
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Thomas_Jefferson
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:17pmNew York’s “Journal News” must be racists against Native Americans because my name is not on the map.
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John.Galt
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmActually, this is very helpful for the criminals – they now know which homes have guns – AND WILL AVOID THOSE HOMES. Too bad for the rest of the homes on the list – they are now more likely to be burglarized.
I still think all the gun haters should put signs outside their home – “THIS IS A GUN FREE HOME,” that way we won’t be confused – and it will be safer for the criminals to know which homes won’t get them shot!
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DrFreedom
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:08pmI’ll add to these by saying its double edged, now the criminals know or have better idea which homes are “GUN FREE ZONES” and therefore “safe” to break into BUT criminals now also know which homes to watch, waite for owners to leave n then break into so they can obtain guns without having get them legally!!!
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taintso
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:15pmOr to rid the neighborhood of criminals lock and load and post your ‘Free Guns Home’ sign.
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Mess23
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:18pmI hope there are more gun owners than that? At the very least, they know who not to rob.
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Thoth
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:22pm@John.Galt absolutely right! Like so many other *well thought-out* liberal plans, this ploy will likely backfire and just increase crime in the homes not listed.
@DrFreedom, I’m not too worried about thieves coming for the guns. Guns are too easy to get on the street, and thieves are cowards. Why risk getting shot? Much better to just rip off the homes of the un-protected…
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ravinginfidel
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:24pmIf you were a criminal with an illegal gun and you posted your house as a gun-free zone and someone with ill intent broke in and you shot them, could you be sued for false advertising.
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Acena
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:34pmYup,they created a map for criminals .
And it will drive illegal gun purchases up by people trying to hide gun ownership that now have to fear their personal info will be published .
Gangs are organizing as we type to go rob the homes listed.
So where is the list of the illegal gun owners ? Those that actually deserve to be named because they are breaking the law.
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gyro
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:37pmperfect
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Plan B
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:53pmThere is no way to know how many crimes were avoided by an armed citizen. How many rapes, burglaries, etc. are avoided with out firing your weapon? If a criminal avoids homes with large dogs, will they then avoid homes that they know are armed? I feel it was a huge breech of privacy to print this, and if I was a subscriber, advertiser I would then end my business with this paper and the people it is owned by.
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docvet
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:11pmYou saved me a post, almost word for word (I know, so why am I doing this post?) There was a sort-of footnote that the list doesn’t include people with long guns (or unregistered guns bought from a private owner). Imagine the criminal’s supprise – “Hey, you wern’t on the list, you can’t shoot me” (bang) “Oh, ouch even”. We can only hope.
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JediKnight
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:27pmIt’ll also tell the govt which homes to go to when they decide it’s time to start confiscating firearms.
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Lamarr01
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:03pmHomes with handguns and rifles are a target for burglars. Now there can be an APP so the burglars can get directions to the homes of Republicans with firearms.
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DrFreedom
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:10pm@jed Don’t kid yourself, the gov already has a list, starts with the one they will get from all states that require registration, then nra members list n so on…..
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PatriotSunDevil
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 6:27pmPost my house in the paper. I’ve always wanted to say ” Say hello to my little friend!”. My .45 and .223 can talk up a storm.
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WCJ
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmSo now crooks know who doesn’t have a handgun. Once less thing for them to worry about when they break into the homes not listed here.
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ONLY4UANDME
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:07pmOne more reason to go out and buy one. This will backfire like nothing else ever did.
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Chuck Stein
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:04pmThe people who are NOT named in the list have more to worry about than those named. The Aurora murderer SELECTED the theater for his crime based upon the “no gun” policy.
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Uechi
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmOne of 10,000 reasons why I moved out of the Progressive NE to the South.
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TheGreatMan
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:01pmLikewise.
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226crimsontrace
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:07pmIf you live in NY, this is your pill, now swallow
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Cavallo
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:28pmWherever you moved to, it is time to introduce legislation to have a HIPPA version for firearm license holders.
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HumbleMan
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 9:09pmDefinitely need to get out of NYS … but my house in under-water. I don’t see much hope for it getting better, so I better just cut my losses and escape libtardia.
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schroeder123
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmI knew this would happen. Anytime you have the Government require a permit, you are the First.
Now that I know, bring it on, I’m waiting for you.
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Pro2A13
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:52pmThis is clearly NOT covered by the 1st Amendment. Burn this ‘news organization’ to the ground. I’ve never seen anything so blatantly arrogant in my life.
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G.E.R
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:58pmThis is public information. The Journal News did nothing wrong.
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VoteBushIn12
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:06pmThank you GER!
Jesus H Christ on a *******, the information already existed for anyone to view. It’s a matter of public record. All the newspaper did was make that information more accessible. That isn’t a crime, if anything that’s a courtesy.
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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:13pmAnd, my friend, it’s only going to get worse!
“Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traitors!”
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Billca
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:20pmSimply because a newspaper can do something doesn’t mean the MUST or SHOULD do it. This is just more evidence that the news organizations lack any form of ethical or moral leadership. I’m sure they did not debate the risks of publishing this data. Should even one woman or child be put at risk, the newspaper should be prosecuted for reckless endangerment. Imagine a woman who has spent time, effort and lots of money to move away from a violent ex-spouse. She’s even managed to obtain a gun permit to ensure her safety. Now the ex-spouse finds out exactly where she lives and that forces her to move again, pull her child from school, hide her tracks if she can. What’s the cost to women like her? What’s the cost to all of us when that violent spouse catches up to her?
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Cavallo
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:21pm@GER You’d might be surprised at what volume and detailed information is “public” information. You might look into the difference between Legal and Moral actions. What they did was LEGAL, but what they did is also WRONG. However, this does not absolve them from civil action. Not every tort is also a criminal action.
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:26pmThe fact it is public record is BS and violation in itself. Never register anything with the government.
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proliance
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:29pmThere’s a lot of dumb things on the Internet, but GER’s statement takes today’s prize for idiocy in a public forum. The information is NOT readily available to the common criminal who will wait until you leave for work, kick in a window and enter your home. And God forbid that kids aren’t home alone on Christmas break when some thug breaks in.
Crack-head Jimmy who needs quick cash for his fix isn’t going down to city hall to and fill out the paperwork to view public records.
Someone’s prized $1000 .45 is going to be sold for $50 to a gang banger and then tossed in the river after its used in a liquor store robbery.
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FormerLEAcademyInstructor
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:32pmWhat a maroon (moron) you are. You scream about having the right to bear arms then scream even louder when the press expresses its right to publicize public information. I prefer that everyone know I am armed and trained to protect myself and my loved ones rather than being a random target. If someone breaks in and I shoot them in self-defense my attorney can cite this list as reasons the perp should have known not to break in but did anyway at his own peril. At a big box store in a major southwestern city I found it oddly comforting that there were others like me who were exercising their right to constitutionally carry pistols, concealed and open carry. It is time to man-up and quit boohooing about what liberals think and do. If you don’t like what your state allows, move to one of 50 others that might fit your preferences. I did.
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:56pmEach concerned citizen should have to go to their county seat and look up the info for themselves, to see which neighbors own a gun.
This mass amount of information should not be published and distributed for the world to see.
This information hurts the folks who don’t own guns as well. Now the criminals know which homes will be easy to rob.
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Maji
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:07pmGer,
Suppose someone found out you were a
Illegitimate child,really it’s no ones biz,
but if Someone found it in public records
and put in the papers!! I think you
wouldn’t be happy.
child
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:09pm@PROLIANCE
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:29pm
There’s a lot of dumb things on the Internet, but GER’s statement takes today’s prize for idiocy in a public forum.
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2 thumbs up on this post sir.
Anyone making this stupid argument I challenge you to get on your PC right now and try to
access this information if it is so “freely available” on the public record.
YOU CANT.
Maybe you can fill out paperwork down at the courthouse to access the info, but thats
in a completely different UNIVERSE than having it splashed all over the web.
Sooner or later you’re going to have to fight these people THEIR way. Thats the ONLY
way to beat them. Look up the names of the people at the paper and publish their home
addresses advertising that they are unarmed and unprotected —- BURGLARS OPEN-HOUSE !!!!
Here’s the paper:
http://www.lohud.com/
http://mediakit.lohud.com/article/99999999/MEDIAKIT08/110607006/A-Heritage-Innovation
Email & Fax
letters@lohud.com
Fax: (914) 696-8396
Its part of the GANNETT Conglomerate of Media Wh*res
http://www.gannett.com/section/WHOWEARE01
All of their social media are at the bottom of the page. Feel free to let them know how you feel
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darkknight91
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:50pmFormer, your rebuttal is about as stupid as it gets. I have a right to carry $1000 in my pocket but I don’t want it advertised. If you feel so strongly about letting everyone know you’re armed, just wear a t-shirt that says so. Advertising private facts about yourself simply makes you a target. How you don’t understand that speaks volumes of you. Someone that professes to be conservative would never buy into your line of thinking.
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:59pmHave the not considered the many of those listed, with their home addresses are the very police officers on whom they depend upon for their security? It may be wise to consider the consequences of you spouting off who all these people are before you give it out to anyone who cares. The only people who are going to read this are the ones who need to know where the guns are, or who those people are.
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MajorMolly
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 8:09pmThe publishing of names and adresses of legal gun permit holders by Journal News in upstate NY is the final straw. I am disgusted by their and other mainstream media outlets liberal bias. It’s been going on for years but has never been more blatant than with their zombie-like adoration of Obama. The media’s actions are treasonous to the US. We deserve non-biased investigative reporting. Do they no longer adhere to the ethics of journalism? NO! As of today, I am cancelling my subscription to my local newspaper which is owned by Gannet. Good Riddance!!
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Plan B
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:51pmSo, what they have done is give criminals the addresses NOT to rob, letting them know who DOES NOT have legal weapons. You might as well have put a yard sign saying “Gun Free Zone” in every yard that is not on this list!
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Tractorboy
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 4:07pmAnybody that lives in that area, if you feel the paper put you or your family in danger, and you had to buy a guard dog, or security system, etc. well that would seem to be damages to me…. I live in NY if they do this to me, I will sue for every stick of gum I chewed thinking about what I need to do to protect my family, also will ask for punitive damages……… this is a form of reckless endangerment…
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Gregg Weber
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:50pmIMHO if someone went into the house when nobody was there and searched the home, not finding the gun, the paper can be responsible for pointing to the house where a gun might be found.
IMHO if someone went into the house and confronted whoever lived there, and then was shot, then the person shot didn’t pay attention to the warning not to enter that home. S/he shouldn’t be able to sue the homeowner for shooting him/her.
IMHO if a handgun was taken and then used elsewhere the person shot can sue the paper for pointing where to find the handgun used against him/her.
Is this a NEWSpaper of a PROPAGANDApaper or AGENDApaper?
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hpyagl
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:50pmThis gives true meaning to “We Surround Them”!
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:50pmThere are no reporters or journalists anymore. Only activists.
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ONLY4UANDME
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:05pmI am guessing democrats own guns. This will wake people up. From the size of their drinks (NYC) to this. You can only hope they wake up now.
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crystalsky
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:49pmYou know they say if you even take a swing at a person and miss it is attempted bodily harm and bullying.They need to sue the paper for attempted murder by giving the criminals who don’t register there guns the names and addresses of the good people who do. By the way are the cartels, gangsters the Hollywood crowd who own guns on the list. because you know they have them. Congress people have them to. What about the guns in fast and furious who are they registered to.are they on the list because if there not they did not register them also Bloombergs body guards are they on the list with there name and addresses.The main problems are the hypocrites against guns but they have there guns or they hire guns . Mr. morgan has security in the building he works at.
HELLOOOOOO.
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oldguy49
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:53pmsue them and see if they like it
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Derek01
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:02pmBy providing names of the armed, these brilliant liberal morons are helping criminals. Now they know which houses to avoid and which houses to rob. Before they couldn’t be sure, but now libs are on their own. Couldn’t happen to a better group of losers.
Ever notice that most of our problems are caused by liberals?
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Time Rebel
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:49pmThis is persecution of citizens! The media has gone too far. People have armed themselves according to the 2nd Amendment. My God; these attacks against citizens are getting out of hand! If you have not already done so, please join the NRA and fight back.
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SandboxSoldier
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:57pmNo, join the Gun owners of America. They won’t sell you out. The NRA only wants your money for its upper execs, the GOA uses it for fighting not lining their pockets.
Compare it for yourself, Heller Decision was a NRA sellout.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 10:56pm@SandboxSoldier:
Agreed. GOA http://gunowners.org and JPFO http://jpfo.org are both excellent, no-compromise organizations.
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:48pmP.S….Class action lawsuit anybody???
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kickagrandma
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:54pmWe will join a class action lawsuit. And, while we are at it, let’s go after congress! Dereliction of duty sound about right?
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COFemale
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:47pmIf this is public information then it should be up to a person to go find the information. It is not up to a separate entity to make something public, public for everyone to see it. It would be like me going into the assessor records and publishing the name and address of everyone’s house info in the paper. It is not the business of anyone else. If they want to know, let them go look it up.
By publishing this information, criminals now know where the guns aren’t. Do Liberals have any brains? How could they not see what they aren’t saying. I swear everyday more and more mental illness is shown by Liberal do-gooders. Do us a favor before you get people killed STFU.
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:47pmJust proof there should be no gun registry lists. The paper now has pitted neighbor against neighbor.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:00pmAfter registry comes confiscation. The fascists will stop at nothing to disarm you. This is just the beginning to finalizing your slavery.
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Misty Williams
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:11pmThat’s the idea. Now, their neighbors are to be looking at them askance, as though they are dangerous, unpredictable people. Their neighbors are supposed to be pressuring them to get rid of their firearms for the safety of the neighborhood. If they are good citizens, we all know they will give up their firearms and protect the children!!!
What a crock of Bull.
This so-called “News”paper (propaganda rag) has done a couple of really deplorable things here.
First, highlighted which homes it is likely OK, to break into, because no one there has the means to stand up to you. Those non-firearms owners should feel really safe with that info out there.
Second, highlighted which homes to break into while unoccupied, to try and steal the firearms that are probably there, to use for nefarious purposes–or to pawn for your next fix.
Third, as OleFromMN points out, put the good, law abiding gun owners at risk for retaliation from their neighbors.
Whichever one of these you want to address, it boils down to that waste of ink making efforts to incite crime and panic. Anything happens, a single Christmas light bulb goes missing, they should be held accountable.
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Don Fulano
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:19pmA government registry implies that they give you permission to do something.
What the government gives, they think they can take away. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.
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OlefromMN
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:03pm@Cavallo,
You point out the most concerning issue. The government having a list of potential resistors.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:47pmMore like a map of what homes not to break into. Go for their unarmed neighbors’ homes instead.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 7:26pmI disagree. Some burglars might try to rob a house while the people are gone hoping to find a pistol to sell on the black market.
It all depends on the odds for pulling it off in reality & the perception in the crook’s mind.
When the home owner is present at night or whenever it probably will make it less likely.
If a known liberal is being attacked it is a real gut check to decide to help them. Will they appreciate the help, & turn over a new leaf or will they go meh?
I think I would slow walk the 911 call.
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grimmster
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:47pmWait,doesnt new york ban guns completely? Mapache has it right,not only publish their names, but rent billboard space with names and photo’s….
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Mike Benton
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:46pmSo now they can list the names of all the people who own cars.
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hpyagl
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:46pmPerfect! Now criminals know who not to mess with. This exposes all the non-gun owners as open targets.
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:45pmLook at the bright side…Burglars will be wise to bypass all those addresses…
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 5:17pmOr go there to steal guns. A gun can;t protect you from a burglar smart enough to break in when you aren’t home.
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strawberry411a
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 10:32pmWell then you just made this news organization an accomplice…they just cased the houses for the hooks who would have no idea where to look or how to access this information. face it..they released this info for less than honorable reasons. Imagine if they released the home address of every muslim in this country on one website. Libs want it one way and one way only. Hey ACLU where are you?
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Chet Hempstead
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 1:11amIt doesn’t matter if they published it of good or bad reasons if it is a matter of public record. The law only recognizes a difference between public and private information, not between public and more public.
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taintso
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:45pmOne more reasons not to register your guns, as it only hurts the law biding.
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hpyagl
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:03pmIt’s sad that we are considering things like unregistered guns but I can sympathize knowing that our Government is out of control. There was an interesting “shop talk” conversation several of us Engineers had at the firm I work with recently. It revolved around 3D printing of firearm components. This is quickly becoming a reality. Other than the barrel, we surmised that everything else could be printed with current materials and equipment. One in the group already has a 3D printer in his house.We need to stay one step ahead.
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:44pmLets see if we can put more weapons in the hands on criminals
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:42pmCome steal my guns!
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love the kids
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:40pmSo, the Govt. can put a guy in jail for making a film that didn’t cause any riots or have anything to do with anything, but lets wait and see what they do to someone that prints this info that could incite real violence. Also, I bet robbers will use this list to know what houses they can rob!!!
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TyMcW31
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:54pmActually that guy wasn’t jailed for making the film. He had outstanding arrest warrants unrelated to the film.
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:00pmTyMcW31
Don’t be ridiculous !
Clinton said he was going to be brought to justice and damn if she didn’t, damn the constitution full speed ahead!
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Mapache
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:39pmSome enterprising individual should now publish the photos, names, addresses, emails and telephone numbers of all the employees of the “Journal News.” Since outing Pistol Permit Holders is deemed ‘newsworthy’ by the Journal, those who did the outing make themselves ‘newsworthy.’
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love the kids
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:42pmI couldn’t have said it better.
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neverending
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:44pmCouldn’t agree more.
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socialism.rocks
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:45pmits all public infomation… we are going to get the nra list here.. soon too
its a 501c
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Cavallo
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:46pmExactly. Also publish if they are likely armed as well, the make and model of their vehicles and their yearly salaries.
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Time Rebel
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:49pmI agree.
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Bill S.
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:50pmIn es essence they did a disservice to them selves and all the New Yorkers need to realize that not only did they mark the gun owners they marks the gun free zone homes. I smell a real good law suite for any armed break ins in these counties.
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65Mustang
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:50pmDamn right, what a disgusting piece of journalism…must have gotten their “marching orders” from the Obama media machine.
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:51pmhttp://mediakit.lohud.com/article/99999999/MEDIAKIT08/120501010
Janet Hasson
President/Publisher
The Journal News
914.694.5204
jhasson@lohud.com
George Troyano
Vice President/Sales & Marketing
914.694.5157
gtroyano@lohud.com
Eileen Zaccagnino
Director/Digital Sales 914.696.8587
ezaccagn@lohud.com
Scott Baker
Director/Retail Sales Westchester
914.694.5381
sbaker@lohud.com
Wendy Green
Director of Strategic Partnerships
914.694.5358
wgreen@lohud.com
Bob Sorensen
Display Manager/Automotive
& Real Estate Advertising
914.694.5106
rbsorens@lohud.com
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Berbel73
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:52pmI don’t know about every employee, but I definitely think that the editor’s, writer’s, and owner’s(s’) should be. What’s good for the goose…
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Displacedsoutherner
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:54pmLet’s list the names/addresses/home phone numbers of everyone who voted for/contributed to Cuomo and/or Obama so the locals can know where the enemy lives. Also the home addresses and phone numbers of all the NY federal/state legislators, judges,county officials and NYC aldermen who support this intrusion.
I’ll bet there is significant overlap of the gun owners and those who publicly decry gun ownership. Let them explain their hypocrisy in a public forum and wring their hands over their privacy being invaded.
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dnewton
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 12:57pmAlso, how about printing the names of anti-gun politicians who own guns. That certainly happened in my state legislature. There was no mass release of names, only targeted people. This won’t get the people who can hire armed guards and speak against gun ownership and self defense but it does beg the question about people who left their homes because of the hurricane. Did they take their guns with them when that home was declared uninhabitable? So technically are they violating the law if the permit is limited to the premises? This might give the criminals a better list of safer locations to create future victims.
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taethne
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 1:14pmSocialism.Rocks – Have you ever lived or been to the countries where the citizens cannot protect themselves? Having traveled all over the world in many countries and lived for 6 months in Russia, I have seen first hand that the biggest threat to people’s freedom is government, no matter what the ideology/Philosophy or religion is. Socialism, Islam, Communist, Dictatorships, ” Chirstian” it does not matter. Oppression is always greatest at the hands of those with the biggest and most guns. The only way to freedom comes in a balance to governmental power, citizens who can defend themselves. History is filled with “enlightened” ideas about gun control. The results are always the same. The government always takes power and oppresses someone. Stalin killed 20-60 million of his own people. I lived in Russia and spoke to people about the government and their oppresion of the people. Hitler 6 million Jews alone. I wonder how many Jewish people could have been saved had the citizens been able to protect themselves from Hitler. Pol Pot, 2 million dead. Communist China (? They are not finished yet) N. Korea (? they are not finished either). Your shallow comments show you are dumb as to what really happens when the government gets absolute power. It has always and will always corrupt absolutely.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:01pmAmen.
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Americanius
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:02pmSame thing happened in Virginia a few years back with CCW holders database being posted. Someone posted up the personal info of the editors including financial infor and wasn’t long before the database cane down.
The Memphis Commercial Appeal does the same thing with Tenn. carry permit holders. Democrats repeatedly voted down a bill to keep the info confidential for the state only and the RINO led legislature has not taken it up.
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M1A2_Tanker
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 2:19pmI did just that to a “Reporter” at the Arkansas Democrat Gazette for this same thing, I posted it in several forums and on his own Blog. He was Irate.
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dovndce
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 3:20pmDougHuffman: Someone should post the names and addresses of ALL the unmarried female employees of the “Journal News” and see how they like that.
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Lamarr01
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 4:40pm@DougHuffman
You are evil! I like that.
Whatever you do, don’t look at the following link:
http://christopherfountain.wordpress.com/2012/12/24/sauce-for-the-goose/
It has some nice interior views of her house. It must be nice to live in such a safe community. The right to privacy doesn’t mean much anymore. This poor, stupid woman will probably need to sell her house and move somewhere else. One good thing to come of this, Homeland Security and the National Security Agency will be able to monitor all the harassing emails and comprise a list of all the deranged, white, male gun-owners.
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randy
Posted on December 24, 2012 at 7:47pmJanet Hasson
President/Publisher The Journal News
914.694.5204
jhasson@lohud.com
3 Gate House Lane,
Mamaroneck, NY 10534
Phone number:
(248) 594-2197;
you might also try
(914) 525-1923
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Johnny 7 OMA
Posted on December 25, 2012 at 12:00amThis is perfect. Every gun owner in the country should put a sign in her or his front yard pointing out that they possess fire arms and know how to use them. The guy next door can’t prevent anybody from entering his house and raping him, or his wife and children, red and blue flashing lights in the street or not.
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