MSNBC Co-Host Refuses to ‘Lie’ to His Children and Let Them Believe Santa Claus Is Real
MSNBC’s Touré (FILE)
As the hosts of MSNBC’s “The Cycle” discussed what they did over the Christmas holiday on Wednesday, co-host Touré surprised his colleagues when he revealed that he refuses to “lie” to his children and tell them that Santa Claus is real.
Instead, he explained, they go out and buy each other gifts and the topic of the Santa “myth” never comes up.
“With my 5-year-old and 3-year-old, we didn’t talk about Santa at all. I went shopping with them. I let Hendrix pick out a present that he wanted, I let him pick out a present for his sister,” Touré said. “The idea that the presents did not come from us never came up. It just never occurred. We put out the presents before bedtime on Christmas Eve. So, there was no myth that some stranger is going to come in through the door while you’re sleeping.”
Co-host Krystal Ball called Touré’s stance on Santa “lame.”
“I’m sorry. We didn’t lie to our children,” he quickly interjected. “I don’t think that that’s lame, but whatever. Judge not.”
“They picked out their own presents? They didn’t get a surprise?” Ball pressed. “What kind of Christmas is that? I’m glad you’re not my dad.”
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Rob
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:44pmThis liberal tinkerbell CAN’T have ever had sex with a woman.
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taintso
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 10:43pmVoices
A doctor had sex with one of his female patients and felt guilty all day long. No matter how much he tried to forget about it, he just couldn’t. The guilt and sense of betrayal of his patient were overwhelming.
But every once in a while he’d hear an internal, reassuring voice in his head that said: “Don’t worry about it. You aren’t the first medical practitioner to have sex with one of his patients and you won’t be the last. And you’re single. Just let it go.”
But, invariably, another voice in his head would bring him back to reality, whispering……….
“You’re a veterinarian, you sick bastard.”
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SUNTZU
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 11:32pmTAINTSO
I would sure like to get in your pants right now
cause you just made me pi$$ in mine.
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LogCabinRepublican
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:23amPROGRESSIVES want to change our Traditions which is NOT happening with me – and this Toure’ dude – he’s married? boy my “Gaydar must be really off or he’s LYING – he’s the biggest **** on MSNBC along with that Lesbian’s name oh yeah Rachel Maddow the anorexic needing a sandwich news caster
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U4eeeahhh
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 6:18pmThank you, Taintso
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:43pmI dont either. If you a christian, you should consider the effects of your kids finding out something that cannot be seen or completely understood was just a lie told by the parents
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chips1
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:29pmWithout encouraging imagination, your kids will never evolve. The wheel would remain just an abnormal rock.
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Gregb
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:42pmSanta Claus is a lie that was meant to dilute the truth of Jesus Christ
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:43pmSo without santa clause there is no imagination? Its not like he is banned – he is just outed as a fictional character. The notion of imagination is built upon the understanding that it is not real – so your argument makes zero sense.
If you want your kids to have imagination – play with them, have them read, draw, and write….This isnt rocket science
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:49pmAnother thought….
The government will be telling my kids lies their entire lives….The last thing they need is mommy or daddy getting the ball rolling. Teach your kids to love the truth more than the lies
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LiveFreeOrDieRob
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 10:42pmI am a hardcore conservative and a believer in Christ. No Santa B.S. in my house ever. Santa, trees, lights, etc. as they are employed in the modern “holiday” traditions have nothing to do with the birth of Christ. Not that we can’t celebrate His birthday with lights, gifts, etc. (we do). But Santa takes the eye off the ball for young kids–is it about him and you getting stuff or this other thing altogether where God crawled inside a man called the Son of God to take your sins away? Plus, lying to your kids about something they can get so invested in is just unsmart. What else will they decide you were B.S.’ing them about? Including maybe that thing about God coming as a man? Or did you mention that this Christmas at all? Cuz I know Santa forgot to mention it or note it in any way while NORAD tracked him all the way to your neighborhood. Santa can be a fun thing, but he can’t be presented as real, nor does he enhance the actual point and theological meaning of Christ’s birth in any way. Maybe tangentially if you use the Orthodox Saint Nicholas (the actual saint) story in place of American Santa–but then, he wouldn’t be riding a sleigh through the air to your house ever, would he, then?
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fawlty
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 11:24pmNot every Christian family is weak in faith. As a Christian you boycott a figure based on a well known Christian? Nevermind …I don’t care to know…you are like the skeleton at the feast…a slayer of hope and good.
Anyway, for the rest of us, it is an exercise in imagination and narrative. As a kid when you realize it is just that…a narrative..a tale and tradition…then you can appreciate it as such while still enjoying the memories. I am glad my parents didn’t piss on my childhood because they were afraid of their own faith being questioned.
The fact that Santa Claus is white is the main reason that black militant ignores him.
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andrew36
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:23amSo you losers have never told a lie to your kids, what a load of F^%$#@ BS.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:37amlook who is defensive. If your conscience was clear on this issue, you wouldnt be defensive.
Its funny that ‘conservatives” complain about how stores and the government is taking the word “christmas” out of the season, but then at the same time – they think christian parents who teach only Jesus and not Santa are TOO EXTREME………………………………………….
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XScramblerX
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:25amYou should consider the effect of your children finding out that their parents are complete heartless morons! After all, bringing joy, wonder and excitement to a child’s FIRST FEW years of their life is just a terrible thing to do. I mean telling of a fat guy who loves to share with the entire world regardless of race or religion. Someone who can show them kindness and selflessness…just terrible!
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MIBUGNU2
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:09pmLiberals just drug up their Kids so they don’t feel anything..sad !!
Future Bama Zombies !!! Free Stuff and I can be gay, Yea !!!!!
you don’t have to work hard for stuff, It’s FREEEEEEEEEEE !!!
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tootsie roll
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:31pmSoybean reject
Just another Atheist A H who would not know the TRUTH IF if bit you in your A@@
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:03pm@Tootsie
Your dishonor this website with your comments
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dadsrootbeer
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:37pmHe is correct but left one thing out. Obammy is the real Santa Claus for him and his followers.
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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:35pmSo the CYCLE is still on the air? How benevolent of NBC. Santa rocked for me and Santa rocked for my kids. To each is own, I believe. But really, the CYCLE is still on the air, huh? Wow.
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dwilco77
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:44pmIt isn’t about lying. It is about imagination, joy, and magic. Something the Left seems to shun. It is outside of the accepted norm on the left to have imagination, joy, and magic. They are into configuration, anger, and racism. A generally unhappy group of folks.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:47pmHi TRON, Hope you had a very Merry Christmas. Yeah, if we didn’t occasionally see something about that show here, none of us would know anything about it.
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TRONINTHEMORNING
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:57pmYes, MERRY CHRISTMAS! Funny story, My Mom told me about Santa when I had received a Superman costume for Christmas and was headed to the roof to try it out. She decided to be safe rather than sorry. True story.
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pissantno.10
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:28pmhe is just like obumer cheap let other people buy his kids gifts. man dont be getting in my stash not even for my own kids.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:45pmthe left thrives on imagination because their ideology is not based on fact. Keynesian economics, economic multiplier, benevolent society – those are all fallacies. It is no wonder the liberals have forced santa upon our country
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THE EQUALIZER
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:35pmI am sure the checks his Mama cashed came from Santa! Friggin idiots!
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catsighting
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:30pmI’m sorry, I cant get past that the other co host’s name is Krystal Ball and we’re to supposed to take MSNBC serious? I don’t care what he doesn’t or doesn’t tell his kids about Santa, to me it is not news worthy. I don’t understand why they bought any gifts though and they kids picked them out, so it was just like it was their birthday, what the fun is that? Santa is of European descent aka white male so I heard on the radio today and that they are all evil and Jewish. Better watch out for those evil Santa’s!
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Kupo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:16pmCriticizing someone for their name is pretty low. It’s not her fault her parents were hippies.
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drenfroe
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:29pmWhat a shame their kids don’t really get to be kids to begin with. I say time enough for the real world when grown upm but I know alot of people don’t really like kids to begin with and want them to be like grown ups and stifle their imaginations. More power to ya buddy.
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Hobbs57
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:05pmYou hit on a great point and something I have been pondering upon for some time now, but especially with this Sandy Hook thing. Kids are constantly be made out to be adults, given rights as such, yet, they are still quasi if not completely dependent. With any form of independence comes personal responsibility. Apparently, there is a wide general agreement that a child is not considered able to cope and deal with life responsibly and be accountable for their actions as an adult until the age of 18. This would indicate that a human child lacks the developmental emotional and psychological abilities to thrive and live as an independent responsible adult, yet, these yokes on the left continually treat their children as little adults. Clearly, this isn’t for the childs best interest, but for that of the parents, who by treating a child as a little adult, the expectations are such that their childassume the responsibilities and accountabilities of an adult, thus, creating a perception for the neglecting parent that they have less responsibility they have to deal with in their lives. The quicker they get their child on their own, the quicker they can get back to their self serving and selfish lifestyles. They want the teachers to raise their kids, the day cares, the baby sitters, and everybody else but themselves. They only act as a bank, and when a child cracks, they blame everybody else but themselves with anger generated from the deep seated denial it is really their fault.
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OUT THE REGRESSIVES
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:29pmWHAT!!!!!!!
NO SANTA CLAUS?????
I am emotionally scarred for life now.
Who do I sue???
Wait a minute, I am saved!!!!!!!
I forgot we have Baraka Claus.
Whew, that was close.
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justasurvivor
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:28pmI never lied to my child about Santa either. The reason was, when I was a kid, I was told there is a Santa, an Easter Bunny, a tooth fairy and a God, all of whom you can’t see.
Then one day I’m told there is no Santa, no Easter Bunny, and no tooth fairy.
That can’t help but start the questions about the existence of God, whom we also can’t see.
So from day 1, I told my son that we give Santa Clause presents and Easter Bunny presents, and tooth fairy presents – because they’re fun and they make life more beautiful.
But from day 1, he has been told the truth about God and about Jesus and what the Bible, God’s Holy Word, says about God.
My son is 38, and we still exchange Santa gifts every year, and there never was that day of misery of being told all those “magical” beings don’t exist.
He has always known how very much families love their children to want to have such a beautiful tradition of giving, and how neat that is that so many parents are willing to give extra presents, never taking credit for them.
We give gifts to others in Jesus name too, anonymously. Same thing. He’s well grounded in truth and love.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:46pmexactly
in our house we dont hate santa….We just accept him as a fictional character – just like mickey mouse and spiderman
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Brooke Lorren
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:50pmI agree. From even before they could understand, my kids have always been told where their presents come. My mom actually mostly fills our stockings and mails them to us every year; when we hang them up at night, they’re already mostly full; I will usually buy a couple of bags of candy and divide them among the stockings so they have a little more.
Even still, the kids think that Santa is cool, even if he’s only a fun game to play. The kids don’t have to go through a major disappointment as they get older, and I don’t have to go through the dilemma of whether to tell a “white” lie or not. We’ve told them not to spoil it for other kids, because it’s really not up to me how to tell other parents how to raise their kids.
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pissantno.10
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:35pmsucks to be you guys too. to bad but your time is lost for ever.
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CommenterInChief
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:25pmReally!? He won’t tell his kids about Santa Claus, but he probably leads them to believe that MSNBC personalities aren’t liars and fools. He should at least be consistent.
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shabe
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:25pmPersonally, I agree with him on this issue. I did the same with my kids who are now grown and they turned out just fine.
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emoore54
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:35pmand what big noble thing did you accomplish? And now parents who are not lost and insecure, are liars for letting little children believe in something magical? Well sweetheart, I have something you should know, Barack is a socialist,sociopath who is destroying my country. Aww too harsh?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 11:12pmits an uphill battle christians face. Every issue should be addressed and compromise with the world should be minimized. Santa Claus is an easy solution because kids love christmas whether they believe in santa or not.
Ask yourself a simple WWJD and the answer becomes apparent
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shabe
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:50pmwhat big noble thing did I accomplish? – not lying to my kids. Is that not noble enough for you?
BTW, I am not your sweetheart and wonder how you made the leap from Santa Claus to Barack. For the record, I agree that he is part of the problem helping to destroy this once great country.
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Mudd
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:24pmWho cares? Kinda cool that he named his kid Hendrix.
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catsighting
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:31pmafter a dead major drug user?
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Mudd
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:56pmYep. Also a musical genius.
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chips1
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:55pmMy dog has a squeaky toy and makes better music than Hendrix and he does it without drugs. No Puppy Uppers or Doggie Downers.
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TrueSoundsOfLiberty
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:17amWhat if he named his child Grover Cleveland (cocaine), Ulysses S Grant (cocaine and booze) , Joseph McCarthy (opium), Elvis Presley (who even knows), Johnny Cash (pills, pills and more pills), or George Washington (pot).
Should we bring Newt, George W, Teddy R and now Crapo into the conversation?
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:35amMaybe he gave them gifts of hypodermic needles in honor of his hero, as well?
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Mudd
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:23pmCHIPS1, What are you on that makes you think a squeeky toy sounds better than Jimi?
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:21pmToures said: I swear I been looking fo a job, but the mexicans all snatched em up! So I settled fo this lame gig.
See Soledad Obrien? An Juan Williams, you know, I knew he was half mexican. He got that Fox job I wanted to get, you know the one fo the token from nigeria.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:25pmNow all I do is talk about stuff like Santa Claus and depress my kids.
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soybomb315_II
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:52pmmy kids know mickey mouse is not real – but they still love disneyworld
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chips1
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 10:19pmSOY:
You just crossed the line. (Hee Hee)
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OhSnappage
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:18pmTypical of the demented mindset, incapable of understanding the spirit of the holiday. Instead, a liberal damaged mind lashes out on others, accusing everybody else as “liars” to elevate themselves. Torretz suffers from broken childhood upbringing so expect him to do it to his own kids (who did he slip the date rape drug to btw?). Toure’ it is clear you were not raised properly, lack of morals and values, just a mouth piece struggling to prove your own importance. The real truth is your own ego obstructs the innocence of youth and compassion.
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Kupo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:22pmYou can maintain the spirit of the holiday just fine without telling your kids lies about some obese, crimson-clad voyeur breaking and entering into every house on earth.
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OhSnappage
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 11:24pm@Kupo sure, but you, like your boy Toure’ here again miss the point of Santa Clause and throw an ugly image on that which you cannot comprehend. You want the innocence of children to celebrate the joy of the holidays the same way an adult does, then go ahead. Treat children as adults, sure there’s no harm in that…right? Maybe do a little research as to why Santa Clause was created.
Adults that grew up with the spirit of Santa Clause, that talk about it, tend to have a smile on their face and have fond memories. In hindsight (there’s a lesson) appreciate it all the more. Why are liberals/communists always so close minded? One dimensional in thinking? Funny how liberals project.
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AmericanStrega
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:18pmIt’s good that you can choose not to lie to your children, but do not look down on people who wish to do so. I was lied to by my parents that Santa was real. But when I caught Mom putting presents under the tree on Christmas Eve she asked me to not spoil the fun for the younger kids. Her words made me feel like an adult and we after became closer. So, being lied to about Santa actually brought me and my Mother closer together (Dad was always there too, but Mom was the one who was the real Santa). That was 40 years ago. She’s 82 years old now and plays “Santa” for her great-grandchildren. God Bless her.
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Bowlz
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:43pmHow PC and respectful of him not to lie to his kids. I’m just curious if he, and all the other self-righteous left wing celebrities, disguised as journalists; have a conscience about the lies they tell daily to the kids of anyone who watches them? The ego-centrism of most of the msm is out of hand.
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rickc34
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:15pmHe cannot lie to his kids but has no problem telling lies to his viewers and lie to get Obama elected. He is a liar.
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pdw
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:27amAgenda Agenda we all must remember Agenda. Spoon feed the lazy and the foolish.
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Epic Fail
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:15pmI guess he is ok lying to them and telling them he is a successful unbiased non race baiting journalist.
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gyro
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:21pmyup
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pavepaws
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:22pmOMG, he reproduced. Santa doesn’t believe in him either.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:14pmLol…. yet Toure let Run from Run DMC officiate at his wedding. Some say Run is a Reverend… ?? They also say that about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson too…
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hi
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:13pmThat’s fine as long as your kids don’t spoil it for the other kids.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:22pmKids usually figure it out by 1st or 2nd grade. Why spoil it for them?
But then Toure never has been wise.
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gyro
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:22pmgood clear post that is rational !!!!!!!!!!!
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brigott
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:33pmSometime in the life of EVERY child who has been lied to, someone will finally reveal the truth to them. Most likely it will be another child at school.
Better to teach children the truth from the cradle.
How many children finally find out the truth, and then they wonder what other thing(s) their parents have been lying to them about for years?
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ares338
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:09pmThat’s his business and I could care less what his friggin’ kids believe.
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AmericanLass
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:08pmLike they are never going to see him “lie” as they grow older and watch where he works and what he says himself.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:07pmHey Tourettes, tell him about this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2pp9xsAn-o
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:11pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xUUgjSdQhc
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:12pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50UBpf-ivd4
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:24pmLmao….
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:45pmTIME, I remember that show on AFN when I was stationed in Graf, then Hohenfels. Early ’80s. Actually, around ’81. I had the same reaction back then.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:59pmI came to Germany a couple years later…. don’t remember it. I DO however remember that exercise show AFN had on… 3 three young ladies (contortionists more like it, lol) on this excercise floor that rotated? You remember THAT? Lmao.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:06pmLook up “20 Minute Workout”-’80s on your browser. Check out the images and see if you remember what I’m talking about RJJ. Lol.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:47pmTIME, Man, I was just pulling out the keyboard to respond to your other post just as I got a phone call from one of my best Army Buds from Bragg, my first post.
Yeah, I think the Tooth Fairy ended less than a year after I got over there. LOL, yes I do seem to recall that exercise show. Will look that up in a moment too. Dang, remember probably what was the most boring show on AFN in the afternoons, Gasthaus! With LOL, Herb Glover? Don’t ask how, but I just cannot forget that name for some reason. And, Lord I do try. Okay, off to the search engine now.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 9:54pmTIME, Oh yeah, I do remember that. Heck, I was there from early ’81 to early ’84, then back here to Drum, then less than two years and I was back over there for 3 1/2 years. Then finally home for Christmas of ’88. Then back again right before Christmas of ’91. To me AFN is just short for Another Friggin’ (I was nice) Nuisance.
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TIME_2_END_THE_PAUL_CAMPAIGN_IN_12
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 11:48pmLMAO…. Sorry to get back to you so late RJJ…. Oh heck yeah, I remember “Gasthaus”… and Herb Glover DOES sound familiar too ! I just did the one 3 year tour in Germany (Baumholder, 8th ID NCO Academy), but was there previously for a couple Reforgers (in your neck of the woods around Wild-Chicken and Graf) when I was at Devens in Mass. We were always gone when I was stationed there. We called the 39th Engineer Battalion the “road show”… and Devens called us the Black Sheep when we were in garrison (they loved when we went TDY), lol.
If I’m not mistaken… AFN when I was stationed in Panama was called AFRTS…. ??
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:52amTIME, Yeah, AFRTS is American Forces Radio and Television Service. AFN in Europe fell under the umbrella of it’s parent, AFRTS. I remember the still black and white AFRTS ads in the ’80s on AFN. I do know that in Korea, it was called AFKN. Never made it to Panama myself. Geez, I remember the REFORGERs. Worked on about 8 of them. LOL, Engineer eh? Our two MOSs were like oil and water then! Actually had a lot of good friends who were engineers. One really great friend was in Heilbronn. He and I did a lot of bicycling and shooting together, while his wife worked in my unit.
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Maxim Crux
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:07pmA smart kid would say, “prove it”
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Pouncing Porcupine
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:28pmMy kids are smart, and they know that St. Nicholas was a real man, but is long dead, and that he was known for giving gifts and expecting nothing in return, a very Christian concept. If I teach my children that “Santa Claus” and “The Easter Bunny” are real, when they find out the truth they may think I was lying to them about God being real. Therefore I only teach them truth.
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:38amTo which, I would reply, “No presents for you this year”.
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pecosval
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:05pmIt sucks to be your kids
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CABERNETQHS
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:51pmWait… these are adopted kids, right? No way he fathered any. Nurturing creativity and magical childhood experiences should be requirement #1 on the adoption application, after the unconditional love clause of course.
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:05pmHow can you lie to your children about Santa Claus when you helped to re-elect him in the first place?
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BODYBAG
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:15pmNow THATS funny !!!!!!!!!!
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gyro
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:24pmWait a second !!!!!!!! show some respect to santa !!!!
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on December 26, 2012 at 8:35pm@ gyro
Wait a second !!!!!!!! show some respect to santa !!!!
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I did show some respect. I didn’t mention anything about the new red Santa suit missing the hammer & sickle emblem on it.
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