Sen. Feinstein Posts Proposed ‘Assault Weapons’ Legislation — and It Includes Provisions on Handguns and ‘Grandfathered’ Weapons

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) (L) speaks during a press conference responding to comments made earlier in the day by the National Rifle Association December 21, 2012 in Washington, DC. Â (Photo: Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Last week, Sen. Dianne Feinstein promised to on the first day of new the Congress introduce legislation that would ban so-called assault weapons and certain types of ammunition.
Now, the Californian senator has posted a summary of this legislation that would be introduced in 2013, showing more details about the provisions that she would hope would be included. And it doesn’t just have to do with what she calls “assault” weapons.
Here are a few bullet points on the guns that would be banned from sale, transfer, importation and manufacturing:
- 120 specifically-named firearms
- Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic
- Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds
Those who have acquired weapons recently under the pretense of being “grandfathered” in under prior laws see mention in Feinstein’s provisions as well. It requires these weapons to be registered under the National Firearms Act that will include collecting the following information
- Background check of owner and any transferee;
- Type and serial number of the firearm;
- Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
- Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
- Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration
In addition, Feinstein proposes banning large-capacity magazines, which for her includes those that can hold more than 10 rounds.
The proposed legislation would protect hunters and existing gun owners’ rights by:
- Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
- Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
- Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons
The legislation also proposes to strength the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and some state bans by forbidding “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons,” among other suggestions. Thumbhole stocks allow for easier more ergonomic grip of the weapon and bullet buttons release an empty magazine quickly to allow the user to pop in a new one, which some have said skirts around existing assault weapon bans.
Check out the legislation’s summary in PDF form here.
“[The legislation] will be carefully focused on the most dangerous guns that have killed so many people over the years while protecting the rights of gun owners by exempting hundreds of weapons that fall outside the bill’s scope,” Feinstein said in a December 17 statement. “We must take these dangerous weapons of war off our streets.â€
Related:
- White House Actively Supportive of Assault Weapons Ban
- This Is the Latest City Asking Its Residents to Voluntarily Surrender Firearms for Cash
- Here’s the Audio of NY Gov. Talking Gun Control: ‘Confiscation Should Be an Option’
- Why Guns? ‘Because Too Many White People Are Afraid of Black People’: The 6 Most Inflammatory Parts of Michael Moore’s Latest Blog Post
- ‘The Sandy Hook Effect’: Something Remarkable Is Happening With Gun Sales and Stocks
(H/T: Drudge Report)
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cessna152
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:11pmI have sent notice after notice and contacted politician after politician. I have peacefully assembled time after time after time. I have shown these people the facts about awb and how they don’t work. How millions more are killed per year when firearms are banned yet they don’t care. I have come to the conclusion that these people are not representing us but are taking over us…..they are no longer friendly but are destroying us from the inside. The Declaration is very clear what is to happen next. But how? What will it look like? When?
I pray everyday for this country and the leaders. God please direct us as we strive for freedom and remove all tyranny. I used to worry about house, stuff, getting things but now I worry solely about preserving freedom for me, my family and future generations. They need to disarm us to complete their plan. I will not comply as I have a right to persue freedom, happiness and well being and to live without tyranny.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:25pmMost of your freedom is already gone. There are so many exceptions and exemptions to your freedoms that it is rather sad. You have the freedom of speech so long as that speech is not deemed harmful or detrimental to the ruling class. Feel free to scream on a street corner, but the second you attempt to reach or influence too many people you will be regulated, harassed, and oppressed until you run out of funds and go away. You have the freedom of the press so long as you meet what is constituted as a “real†journalist (sanctioned and approved by the State). You have the freedom of religion so long as that religion is not practiced in view of the public or on public property (and so long as you don’t speak about politics while practicing your religion). Public property is reserved for the Godless who practice the sanctioned religion of the State. You don’t own property, the State does, and rents it out to you via what they label as Property Taxes. If you fail to pay your rent to the Government they will take your property and rent it to someone else. And so it goes with the rest of the Bill of Rights that they wipe their rears with. Particularly laughable is the 4th and 10th amendments. Welcome to Oceania, we hope you enjoy the view.
USA RIP
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Patriot Z
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:41pmyou don ask for freedom from tyrants, you TAKE IT BY FORCE! we have played it to nice only to be called violent and racist. we have lost too much time and freedom playing by the rules the statists set up for us to truly entertain anypeacful option. i reccomend filing serial numbers off and not registering your weapons. its the only way. if we wait for election cycles to fight for freedom than we do not deserve freedom. thetime for bloodshed or slavery will soon be upon us.
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cessna152
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:41pmEncicom, answer this. Hitler and Stalin had gun buybacks and registrations….how did that end up? I’ll be waiting for your answer.
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SouthTexan
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:45pmTo end the tyranny for good, take our Country back and restore our Constitution peacefully:
http://www.joinamericaagain.com/step1.php
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skippy6
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:46pmWell said….All common sense citizens feel the same…I hope to God A well regulated Militia won’t be necessary, but if it get’s that far WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS….The wicked fiendstein thinks that you don’t have that right and only the government and the elite( politicians) do. Over 100 million people died under dictatorships.And that’s the reason the founders put the 2nd amendment in place…It’s all part of understanding what natural law is…Or Gods law…..
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oldguy49
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:48pmok……..who here will stand up and use their gun to protect encinom……..??
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:49pmencinom
I’ll ask you again Hypocrite
How many innocent babies died at the hands of abortionist on the day of the shooting?
And you only have to count late terms! You know the ones born alive and have a scissors stuck in their head or just left to die.
You never answer this one!
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AUsername
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:51pmGun Control, leads to Gun Confiscation leads to concentration camps and gulags remember that.
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19RANDY59
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:55pmencinom is a idiot
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:56pmI think Encinom is really Michael Moore…
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NSDQ
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:58pmEnicom never replies, she cant engage in a meaningful debate all she ever does is power period all over the place and thinks she’s witty, pfft whatever
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skippy6
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:59pm@ oldguy I will!!! Maybe he will see the light!! After all, he is human…..People can change….
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redogcamaro
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:02pmEncinom is an idiot, those that don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Cessna152, keep your head held high and encinom……… just go away. really……not kidding……..go far away like maybe go visit Hugo Chavez in Venezuela and buddy up to him. It looks like you have so much in common with him.
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TheRightSideBlog
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:03pmYeah, Cessna needs a shrink…right. I think Encinom needs a library card, because they need to read a book…a history book preferably.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:10pmI say we show Feinstein a copy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Do you think she knows that of all murders last year in the US, more were done with knives, than all types of rifles?
Do you think she knows that blacks make up 12.5% of the population, and do half the nation’s murders? If we lower black murder rates to the same as whites, we will lower the nation’s murder rate by almost 40% and save a whole lot of black lives.
Do you think she knows that we in America own 88 guns per 100 people, but there are 25 nations with higher murder rates via guns? Do you think she knows the in Honduras; they own 6.6 guns per 100 people but lead the world in murder?
Do you think she knows that the European countries with the lowest amount of guns have higher murder rates? Do you think she knows the in England and Australia, when they took away handguns and “assault rifles” the murder rates went up, and have continued to go up?
Do you think she knows that the cities in America with the most gun control have the highest murder rates?
Do you think she knows the not one mass murderer in the US was an NRA member, shot in 4H or CMP, or had a hunter safety card? Do you think she knows that the majority of mass murders and school shooters were very addicted to violent video games?
Do you think she knows violent crime is intrinsically connect to welfare?
Do you think she knows that Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Mao all agreed with her on disarming the population
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afishfarted
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:10pmI’m with you 100% cessna. But I still wonder what button will be pushed–or how far the govtmet gonna push–before the people take that course of action you speak of. Half our country’s population is already gone.
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essence428
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:19pmHere is what it will look like..very soon. This from an “Intelligence Insider.” He’s been right on EVERYTHING he’s predicted since I’ve been following him. All Americans NEED to read this. Extremely Frightening!!
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:19pmencinom
If we had not protested in the past,,then we would have gun registration. Every country thathas had registration had had confiscation
Thus the t-shirt, poster or comic with he line “Mass Murderers Agree: Gun Control Works” with pictures of Hitler, Mao & Stalin.
You are in good company Encinom. I bet you can click your heels with the best of them.
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DadRocked
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:20pm“IF A NATION EXPECTS TO BE IGNORANT & FREE, IN A STATE OF CIVILISATION, IT EXPECTS WHAT NEVER WAS & NEVER WILL BE.”
Thomas Jefferson to Charles Yancey – 1816 January 6
http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/quotations-education
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:21pmShe can propose any damned thing she wishes, it won’t get past the House. Even if it does (never trust the GOP to be consistent or to NOT be cowards), nobody should comply. Want mine? Come get them. It’s just that simple. No debate, no exchanges of snark, no ceding the issue. The Left plays word games and indulges in obfuscation and lies as a favorite pastime. They deserve no engagement now other than “No, you’re wrong. I will not follow your laws” and then walk away.
I will not comply and will continue to urge others to break any other of these upcoming unconstitutional laws if they manifest themselves into our legal code.
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3Tesla
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:25pmMichael (The Hindenburg) Moore’s bodyguard was caught with a gun at the airport. The last people to be denied a gun will be the “Representatives ” that take ours away.
We are supposedly fighting for our freedom in Afghanistan — when the REAL fight is here in the once good Ol US of A .
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JQuentinEvermann
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:25pmWell, these are the “dead cold fingers” of which we have spoken for so long. If this bill were to pass, and there is no way that it would, but if it did, then it would be time. They could come for guns that are known but failed to be registered, and then you end up with BAFTA and IRS agents being picked piece by piece off the pavement.
What will that button look like? See above. This article is about that very button, and this woman is trying her best to push it.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:31pmAFishfarted: ” But I still wonder what button will be pushed–or how far the govtmet gonna push–before the people take that course of action you speak of. ”
Your answer can be found in history. Look at the history of the all-Jewish Menshevik and highly Jewish populated Bolshevik parties at the turn of last century. Look where they stopped. And, let it be known, that the leader and trigger pullers in the Czar family massacre were progressive, communist, and Jewish.
Hobbs10
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:38pmIt’s going to get much worse, than we can even imagine. Boils down to what Charlton Heston said in his speeches to the NRA “From my cold dead hands”. The government can’t even enforce the laws we already have. Now they want to make more. Think about Fast and Furious, now that’s something to brag about.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:39pmoldguy49
ok……..who here will stand up and use their gun to protect encinom……..??
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You’re kidding right? I might do that for a liberal that they might turnover a new leaf. I might do it because I believe in heaven. I might do it because, if he were my next door neighbor & he got owned by some crooks, they might think the neighborhood was easy pickings & return night after night.
Then again I might film the whole thing surreptitious & make it into a morality tale of the idi0t, who refused to take responsibility for his own safety.
I saw a film of Japanese man dragged put of his basement apartment into the street & shot dead with a gun in gun free Japan. The have no land borders with any nation. And yet this guy was dragged out of his home & killed. Police did not show up. I wish I had the name of that film as well ast the date & place of that incident.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:04pmSo it begins….Standing here waiting for you and everyone else…. I don’t need to take an oath…..
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Gorp
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:20pmIn the Feinstein bill:
“Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:
Background check of owner and any transferee;
Type and serial number of the firearm;
Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registrationâ€
Here we go people. Anyone who does register their weapons is done for by result of gun confiscation like what happened in other countries.
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eagledown
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:23pm@ESSENCE428 posted a scary and very real interview from a DHS insider, so enough with the Jefferson Quotes and justifications for gun ownership.
“most important cataclysmic events that DHS is preparing for (the collapse of the dollar). I almost think that DHS was created for that purpose alone, to fight Americans”
“A lot of police departments are being gifted with federal funds with strings attached. That money is flowing out to municipal police departments faster than it can be counted. They are using his money to buy tanks, well, not real tanks, but you know what I mean. DHS is turning the police into soldiers”
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005
Time to man-up people.
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:25pmEncinom, and you people are takers and oppressors. During the 20th century, name an entity that caused more oppression, death, and destruction, than all powerful, central governments. They were all people like you.
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Fubared
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:27pmJihad Jerk
May you encounter an Uzi, Dessert Eagle, Galil, or even Baby Eagle in your near future…The jews own you boy.
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NSDQ
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:30pmEncinom, you madam are a what I believe many would call a ‘tard’, perhaps its pronounced ‘terd’ either way it fits…homework, you know like knowing what the hell your talking about before you speak
Australia: “Historically, Australia has had relatively low levels of violent crime. Overall levels of homicide and suicide have remained relatively static for several decades, while the proportion of these crimes that involved firearms has consistently declined since the early 1980s. Between 1991 and 2001, the number of firearm-related deaths in Australia declined 47%.[25] This being said, all other violent crime indices rose.[3][4] Because of this, between the years 1995 and 2007, “Australia’s (total) violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.”[5]
In the year 2002–2003, over 85% of firearms used to commit murder were unregistered.[26] In 1997–1999, more than 80% of the handguns confiscated were never legally purchased or registered in Australia.[27] Knives are used up to three times as often as firearms in robberies.”
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desertspeaks
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:32pmU.S. Supreme Court CAHA v. U.S., 152 U.S. 211 (1894) “Generally speaking, within any state of this Union the preservation of the peace and the protection of person and property are the functions of the state government, and are NO PART of the primary duty, at least, of the nation. The laws of congress in respect to those matters DO NOT extend into the territorial limits of the states, but have force ONLY in the District of Columbia, and other places that are within the exclusive jurisdiction of the national government.”
The Legislature, either by amending or otherwise, may not nullify a constitutional provision Rost v. Municipal Court of Southern Judicial District of San Mateo (1960)
in Eisner v. Macomber, 252 U.S. 189 (1920), to wit: Congress … cannot by legislation alter the Constitution, from which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised.
They can pass all the legislation they like BUT it has NO FORCE outside of D.C. and other properties owned by or ceded to the federal government!
Fina Supply, Inc. v. Abilene Nat. Bank, 726 S.W.2d 537, 1987 it says “Party having superior knowledge who takes advantage of another’s ignorance of the law to deceive him by studied concealment or misrepresentation can be held responsible for that conduct.â€
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:34pmFubared: “Jihad Jerk… The jews own you boy.”
That’s my point.
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guardrail
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:35pmI sent this to my congressman (Cantor Va). I encourage others to do the same. These are the feelings of millions of patriotic Americans, be careful Congress and Obama.
I Christopher Parrett, as an American, as a military veteran, and as a father, pledge the following:
I Pledge to never disarm, and in particular, to never surrender my military pattern, semi-automatic rifles (and full capacity magazines, parts, and ammunition that go with them), regardless of what illegitimate action is taken by Congress, the President, or the courts.
I also pledge to pass on those military pattern rifles to my children and my children’s children, as well as the full capacity magazines, parts, and ammunition to needed to use them, regardless of what illegitimate action is taken by Congress, the President, or the courts. As Founding Father Tench Coxe said, while attempting to allay the fears of critics of the proposed Constitution:
The powers of the sword are in the hands of the yeomanry of America from sixteen to sixty. The militia of these free commonwealths, entitled and accustomed to their arms, when compared with any possible army, must be tremendous and irresistible. Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom?
Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American… [T]he unlimited power of the sword
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harryset
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:04pmSo, I still don’t need ID to vote??
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IndyGuy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:05pmI believe Feinstein has declared war on the American people…
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Too_Far_Gone
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:11pmTell your neighbors, friends and family to Wake Up !!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n9ZvwPmjJu4
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DrFreedom
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:22pm@ranger YES i think she knows! She doesn’t care!!! Taking our guns is just the first step of a long socialized march over our God given constitutional rights on their way to Socialism for all!!!!!
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The_Jerk
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:24pmIndyGuy: “I believe Feinstein has declared war on the American people…”
No, you’ve just noticed. It started at the beginning of the last century.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:27pmENCINOM
The 10 year long assault weapons ban in the US (according to the CDC and DOJ) did absolutely NOTHING to our crime rate. The Columbine shooting happened right in the middle of that ban.
Australia had very few mass murders, and they were very rare. They had a famous one in Port Arthur in 96, leading to their gun bans. While they may brag that there has been no more mass murders (but they were rare prior to the ban), gun violence actually went up, murder went up, and rape went up in every major city in Australia.
As far as Americans owning guns out of fear; nope, we are armed thus we are not afraid.. We fear communist/Marxist governments though. We know history. We know what happened when governments under leaders like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Castro….. did when they disarmed the people.
We also know what will happen if the welfare check ever fails to go out, and the heathen (who are armed) rise up, like they did in the Rodney King Riots, Hurricane Katrina, Watts Riots, the Baltimore Riots……
Once again, I see you have no ability to speak about the black on black violence.
I also sea that you are not able to show a trend of NRA members ever doing crime. Of the millions of NRA members, there is not pattern of any of them taking part in criminal activity with a fire arm. We can link liberal welfare programs to crime, and we can also link mass murderers to video games.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:33pmENCINOM
Being you like to quote stuff about Australian, Ranger Dan will help you out with some of their more famous mass murders and other murders since their 96 gun ban.
Childers Palace Fire – In June 2000, drifter and con-artist Robert Long started a fire at the Childers Palace backpackers hostel that killed 15 people.
Monash University shooting – In October 2002, Huan Yun Xiang, a student, shot his classmates and teacher, killing two and injuring five.
Snowtown murders – 11 murders committed from 1992 until 1999
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John Wayne Glover – murders of six elderly women on Sydney’s North Shore over a fourteen month period in 1989-90
Whiskey Au Go Go fire – Fire lit in club killed 15
Douglas Crabbe – Truck driver deliberately crashed his truck into a hotel, killing five and badly wounding 16.
Russell Street Bombing – 23 wounded when a car bomb ignites outside a Police Building. One of the wounded, a female police officer, died later of injuries from the explosion.
Sydney Hilton bombing – Two garbage men were killed and 12 passers-by were injured by a bomb planted in a garbage bin outside the Sydney Hilton Hotel in the 1978. A police officer who was wounded died later.
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2hawk
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:44pmIt has no use except to display numbers, but here’s a WH petition to impeach Feinstein for violating her oath to support and defend the Constitution:
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/impeach-sen-diane-feinstein-violating-her-oath-support-and-defend-constitution-united-states-re-awb/sdKKkKJ5
Hit It!
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Saving_the_Republic.com
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:44pmWhat you said Cessna many have been saying. The calls for “what more I can do?” gave birth to my site where I have been trying for over 3yrs now to get ppl to get active and actually do things to engage the left. But with no support, no help from larger sites like Blaze, Breitbart etc etc only so far ones message can go.
This dream of the progs is 100 yrs in the making, even the gun grab, with the end goal of complete and total control over this nation. We are back in 1776, what month I cant tell you but that is what we are living. Only diff btwn then and now is the people are completely complacent/ dumbed down and many cases asleep.
When folks finally wake up it will be too late
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:49pmGuardrail, I don’t want them knowing that I may have such weapons. I don’t want them to see me coming when they try to disarm my neighbors.
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Bowlz
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:01pmCessna152: Agreed and Amen. To put it simply; this is none of her or any other politician’s business. She’s violating the consttitution by infringing on the right to keep and bare arms, personal freedom and the right to defend onesself and family (or even strangers). People like her need to be held accountable for violating their oaths to protect and defend the constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. The domestic enemies are worse…………..
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West Coast Patriot
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:07pmHere is an idea. Stop paying taxes to the government that is using that money to turn us into socialists. If enough people were to do this, the corporate government will fall and a new government, already in place, can take over, putting our original Constitution back in place. This will require great sacrifice from all of us, but in the long run, will be worth it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYleC7l86ys&feature=plcp
http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/
Watch the video to the end, then go to the website and research on your own. Each and every state is involved in this and it can only succeed with more people to join in and fight for our country. We have tried writing our elected officials to no avail, they continue to turn a blind eye to our grievances. It is now time for all good men to come to the aid of their country and take it back. This can be dome without a total war, we just need to abolish our present government by causing them to go broke, as it is “We the People” that keep them afloat, and it is “We the People” that can stop paying them.
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Yeah_Buddy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:07pmI wonder if this is the ‘new’ world after the end of the Mayan calendar. The next 7 years should be interesting.
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Simple Skeptic
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:16pmOf course you all understand how democrat tactics work. They know republicans better than the republicans know themselves. What they want is a ban on assault ‘style’ weapons (for now), but have to scare gun owners with the thought of potentially having to give up more, so gun owners will settle for what they want (near-term). I know they really want an all out ban of weapons period, but that would cause civil war, so this is their Overton Window strategy. The window of what gun owners are willing to accept will move to include ban of assault ‘style’ weapons because gun owners fear that it could be worse and will compromise to accept. This has worked over and over again. Stand for principles and this strategy doesn’t work. Stand for the constitutional rights and this, if passed, will get defeated or overturned…force it to the Supreme Court. Their oath will force them to engage original intent and this bill would be defeated 9-0.
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afishfarted
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:19pm@Yeah_Buddy, that’s a point few have taken. The Mayan’s never said the world would come to an end. I have no idea if the calendar’s end means what you say, but forget about the next 7 years. What’s gonna happen in the next 12 months should be the question.
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John.Galt
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:36pm@Cessna152 – Well said! God help us all. Unfortunately, I believe you are all too correct on them taking us over. An all out assault on 2nd Amendment rights must be completed before this can happen, though. And I believe very few gun owners will willing register their guns. Somehow they will have to have an excuse to go house to house and confiscate them (like Cuomo suggested…). When that happens, the only resort left is, as you said, written in the Declaration. I WILL NOT COMPLY. If it comes to that, remember that THEY will be wearing body armor… don’t bother with any chest shots, you are only wasting ammo and giving them time to locate and eliminate you. The only vulnerable area is the face – the clear or tinted face shields are NOT bullet proof, but the helmets are. I hope it never comes to that, but if you want to defend your rights, you need to know.
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willbedone
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:46pmMay I remind you that FREEDOM is what you give yourself. YOU chose to be free or enslaved. Yes, there may be a price that you have to pay for FREEDOM.
LIBERTY is what someone else gives you. An example is that a ship’s captain gives the sailors liberty.
Patrick Henry had freedom, he asked for liberty to be free otherwise he would be free as whatever the cost.
Does anyone else get the feeling that when the government uses the word terrorist they are refering to someone that is their enemy, and not necesisairly the enemy of the citizens? (Us vs. them)
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paulrogers
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:03pmYou have put it right. I, too, write and call these idiot to no avail. Mrs. not so Feinstein, needs to retire and get a life and leave ours alone. The Republic party of CA can’t seem to find a good alternative to this old bag. Oh well, she can fly free on Southwest since bags fly free. LOL
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Evileye
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:16pmThis an Example How the Federal Government Will Do It. (confiscation of Fire Arms)
They will carefully select there targeted In Individual.
then a Long costly investigation.So you spend all your money on defense Attorneys.
They want Cash up front because the Department of Justice has a 90% conviction rate.
And you will have no money to pay them.
Then they will leak a lot of information to the press to Convict you in the public eye before you ever see the inside of a court room.
Once they nail and they will,because they have an unlimited amount of funds and you are broke. Then they will appoint you an attorney,That works for them, Forcing you to cop a plea or face far more prison time.(your choice)
After plea they will print it in every paper how they got the bad guy.
This naturally scare the S–t out of every one that has a AR-15.
You take a long look at the AR-15 then your wife and family, that you only get to see once a month for the next 10 years. And the favorite saying “They will take it from my cold dead hand”.
Does not sound so heroic. Then people will dump the gun and submit .All dictator know this.
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angryamerican33
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:26pmI,m afarid we may have no other choice but resist.Voting doesn,t work so resistance is our only option.We need to band together for whats coming,they can pick off anyone who stands alone but they cannot stand against We The People…
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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:29pmHOW MANY GOP SENATORS WILL SUPPORT GUN CONFISCATION
Now all guns will be illegal because few if any will be able to jump through flaming hoops. Democrats could never repeal the 2nd Amendment so they pass laws. Can’t they do this to the 1st Amendment too. Will the GOP filibuster this anti-Constitutional scheme? Will this domestic disarmament scheme become part of the Debt Ceiling agreement?
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:30pmDon’t you people get it yet ?
“Behind the ostensible (visible) government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.â€
― Theodore Roosevelt
“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.â€
– Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
“The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the international bankers.â€
– Congressman Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, June 20, 1932
“The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.â€
– President FD Roosevelt (1933-1945)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLe02uld_0
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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:32pmTHIS IS WHY OBAMA FEW BACK FROM HAWAII
He will lead the attack on the US Constitution.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:43pmDEMOCRAT SENATORS 53, GOP SENATORS 45
Elections have consequences. How do you think this gun law will be defeated? Will the GOP controlled House negotiate with the Democrats to take your 2nd Amendment Rights away and send millions of American gun owners to prison. The US Supreme Court ruled that you have the right to keep a gun in you home, and Democrats will make that impossible.
When the German people elected Hitler they did not realize what Hitler had in mind and Americans who voted for Obama seem to not have cared.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:48pmNO ONE WILL KNOW WHAT IS IN THIS LAW UNTIL IT GETS PASSED
This will be a law no one gets to read before it passes. Democrats hope that many Americans oppose this law so they can be killed. Once these Gun Clingers are dead, Democrats no longer have to worry about them. This is why Democrats have not been worried about all the guns people have purchased because they will use the disgraced US courts to take them away and kill those who refuse the mandate.
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muffythetuffy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:53pmLETS VOTE ON IT
The people of Brazil voted on a law like this and defeated it.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 6:30pmSKIPPY6 — I love your avatar, you do not double cross Tuco and let him live!
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 6:33pmWhy do you people give encinumb what she wants, which is attention? Don’t even reply to the troll, there is no point, all you do is put wood on the fire of her ego.
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Jimbo65
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 6:38pmI will likely become a felon when or shortly after this law is passed. That’s the whole purpose isn’t it??
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lillymckim
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:06pmI though Joe Joe was appointed “The Gun Czar”?
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:09pmRANGERSKIPPY — She knows all too well. It’s about the bankster elites taking over the world, she is in with them and so are the other politicians that ignore the FACTS. It’s about controlling the world through the UN, creating that one world Govt. NWO. Controlled by the Rothchilds, Bildeburg’s etc. Look at how many presidents are members of these secret groups, as soon as anyone looks to have a chance at the presidency they end up at these secret meetings. The more you try to disprove these things the more truth that they are real emerges.
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226crimsontrace
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:10pmwow, did she ever age badly!! Nancy needs to take Di to her plastic surgeon, then Di can look as beautiful as Nancy
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KeystoneState
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:12pmSo what else is new? Do any of you “freedom and liberty lovers” think that negating with these leftist are going to produce any results? Ugh.
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dmerwin
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:17pmAs of today there have been 500 murders in Chicago this calendar year. I’m going to guess that most of these were perpetrated with a firearm. I’m also going to speculate that the majority were unregistered handguns in the hands of people with a criminal record. So I would have to ask the liberal elite how an additional law would reduce this? The solution just may be to incarcerate with mandatory minimum sentences and prosecute as adults those who commit ANY crime with a firearm of ANY type, and not make my favorite range rifle illegal. I’m pretty sure that machine guns (real fully automatic), RPGs and mortars were not legal in the UK, yet the IRA were able to obtain them. The real problem is our accept no responsibility and “tolerant” society.
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Cemoto78
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:23pmAnyone who is in favor of this over reach is a true enemy to your freedoms and need to be removed from office immediately. The only ones who will have weapons which are not registered under this would be criminals, politicians, and the friends of politicians.
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Thewayiseeit
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:46pmAnd to add insult to injury…
Look what they just “Found Out”…
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
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michaelmoron
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 7:47pm@WATER-THE-TREE
Secret Groups? Secret Meetings?
Check this out:
“The very word “‘secrecy’†is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is a very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment. That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know.†– John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961
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Evileye
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:11pm62% of gun deaths are suicide. A single shot.
And it against the law to commit suicide ( they lose a Tax Payer other wise they don’t give A S–ht)
So we need new laws to say you cant shoot yourself?.
If your terminal you can get a pill from the doctor or Be old and sign up for Obama care to get the job done.
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Mich9Bran
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:47pmSen. Fienstein is a very DANGEROUS person and an Elitist , She is not upholding her oath of office she is helping destroy the Constitution and helping the Goverment try to enslave we the people ..
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:07pmWho is this encinom guy? Some kind of liberal troll? I know the type. Their only purpose here is to make outrageous statements and try to draw you into ill advised argument about your values, which admittedly are difficult to defend if you believe in the Word of Christ. His Words are twisted around until they are unrecognizable even to Ayn Rand, let alone many who are lightweights by comparison. The libs have distorted Christianity to the point where they are saying that Christ did not believe in social Darwinism and the idea that each of us in a community, or country, owe anything to anybody. Christ, and Ayn Rand, taught that you should help someone if it makes you feel good, but otherwise the rich and powerful got there because they are deserving of God’s grace.
Although we are the most heavily armed country in the world per capita, putting even lawless countries like Somalia to shame!, we have not yet reached the tipping point where ownership of guns outweighs evil the that besets our country due to the so called First Amendment rights, not to mention the capitalistic motives, of those who profit from video games, movies, etc. Gun crime and mass murder is tragic. Only when every single adult in America owns a gun and is prepared to kill on a moment’s notice will gun violence stop. At that point we will have the Peace on Earth that Christ spoke of. God is great! God is great!
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ColdDeadHands
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:27pmWho the hel# is Feinstein? It’s her and her other 60 or so progressive friends in the Senate against 80 million gun owners, and 300 million firearms already in this country. You’re right, something will eventually “go down”, we better keep praying hard that the people will step up and step up all together!
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Marine 1
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 9:57pmLet the idiots in D.C. debate this issue all they want. They have ignored the Constitution anyway – especially Obama. Now , WE the PEOPLE can ignore them on this and other issues. I certainly didn’t vote for senators and reps to go back to D.C. and take my rights away. No way in hell!
There are 100 senators from the states and no more than 435 house members by law. There are over 100 million gun owners. Now, who has the power?
As states and as the people we will nullify any unconstitutional bill they pass and attempt to enforce as law. Basically, they try to force U.S. to accept the “monster” they create and we simply tell them to go to hell.
Folks, this is the last straw where I live and the folks out here in the Rocky Mountain West are drawing a line in the sand when it comes to Amendment II rights. From what I see the communists in D.C. are about to throw “salt into and open wound.”
I fear that if they are going to press the issue they may want to be prepared for another “Concord and Lexington.”
WE, the PEOPLE want civility in our society but that will not happen when our nations’ leaders are ignoring the Constitution and forcing their tyranny down our throats.
These are trying times for a people destined to live free under a God-given constitution. Just because someone in the District of Corruption says “this is how it is going to be” does not mean that the population will follow this time. We have had enough foolishness for a lifetime.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:21pmSendthemeatballs – I see you are back to your stupid little act, and posting more moronic comments.
Your quotes -
“Christ, and Ayn Rand, taught that you should help someone if it makes you feel good, but otherwise the rich and powerful got there because they are deserving of God’s grace.â€
“we have not yet reached the tipping point where ownership of guns outweighs evil the that besets our countryâ€
I see you are as ignorant to the Bible as you are to firearms. Generally, if you are going to tell us what Jesus said, it is wise to quote the book, chapter, and verse. Otherwise, you are just making stuff up.
Ayn Rand and Jesus are not interchangeable. Being we are on the topic, I will tell you why libs so hate Rand. She was an atheist, so libs feel she should be on their side (being you libs hate God). She also came out of communism, and preached on the evils of it, and the reasons why capitalism is better. That really chaps lib’s butts, when someone proves communism to be evil.
As far as the gun ownership comment. We own 88 guns per 100 people, and there are 25 nations with higher gun violence than we have. Honduras has 6.6 guns per 100 people and has the highest murder rate in the world. Higher gun ownership in most European nations equates to less murder. In Luxemburg, folks cannot own guns, and they have some of the highest murder per capita in Europe.
Keep it real meatballs, I am watching you.
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bulletsinthegun
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:21pmI could not have said it better. Today facebook started closing accounts that don’t agree with the goverment point of view with gun control
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:47pmsoon as the government, federal or state, starts to enforce a mandatory buy back(aka confiscation) that is the line. That is the signal of the start. I am curious how many truly stand up for their rights and how many choose safety.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:30pmHi Skippy. I’m glad your watching me. You admit I deserve watching. And there is probably nobody better than you for the job!
You sure seem to know a lot about “libs.” They hate God, you say. Surely you don’t mean that liberal Christians hate God. Or do you mean that no liberals are Christians? Or do you mean that no Christians are liberal? Or that you can’t be liberal and be Christian? What do mean exactly?
You’ve quoted some statistics. Are you lying, or will you provide the source for those statements you provide as “fact.” You’re not a liar are you? Skippy, I don’t want to believe you are a liar. You seem like such a nice person! I’d like you to prove your statements here and to the world so everybody won’t think you’re a liar, which is the logical supposition when someone makes statements of fact without supporting them links. Please prove you are not a liar just making stuff up!
Let’s see it! The world is watching you!
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jcldwl
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:51pmHow many people can we get to show up to protest this bill on inauguration day. If we could get 100,000′s of thousands or a million to be there and assemble peacefully on that day in protest of a national gun registration it would be damned hard for them to ignore us on the mall that day. Sounds like there will be plenty of hotel space and they are reducing their prices. Obummer is sending out emails to boost attendance. Let’s go boost his attendance. I can be there if 999,999 more of you can. Or maybe we should go “occupy” it a couple of days in advance to ensure front row seats. Anyone out there know how to organize something like that?
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Trigus
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 12:05amKnow your neighbors, organize your friends, prepare. United we stand and divided we fall. Largest Standing Militia in the World are US citizens. Inform your local and state law enforcement agencies about the oath.
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
5 U.S.C. §3331
“A recall election (also called a recall referendum or representative recall) is a procedure by which voters can remove an elected official from office through a direct vote before his or her term has ended. Recalls, which are initiated when sufficient voters sign a petition.”
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steelpanther
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 2:09amThey are just pushing for something outrageous so they can turn around and offer what they really want and say they are compromising.Or they are just going to demonize everyone in their way. Nice to know there’s no way its going to get past the house.
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johnboy007
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 2:19amAnything coming from california is bad news for everyone. Its a poorly run state with to many liberals who are chasing business and residents out with increased debt and high taxes. Beware of the evil doers.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 2:33amSen. Dianne Feinstein=leftist, “chosen person” Juden furthering Marxist causes…..like about 90% of the “chosen people” out there. But Blazers love them no matter how liberal they are.
Ray2447
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 4:18amFormer Idaho Congressman Curtis Bower posts a list of goals in his movie Agenda: Grinding America Down, that the Communists want to work to achieve. The list comes from the book “The Naked Communist” published in 1958. Elimination of gun rights is on the list and everyone of the goals on the list is something that the Democrats have long been working for. We should just stop calling Democrats by that name and call them what they truly are – Communists. :-/
P.S. “Agenda – Grinding America Down” is still available at Amazon and is well worth seeing.
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piper60
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 6:33amThestupid “assault weapons” ban did no good whatever the first time. This unconstitutional mishmash will do no better- and the iSSC has already refused to credit some of the sophistries the Dems thought could overturn the 2nd amendment.
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lordamercy
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 6:58amHow can we get lawmakers like Feinstein labeled ‘assault weapons’ on our liberty and ban them, also?
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 7:41amsendthemeatballs
Yes, liberalism goes against Bible truth. The Bible clearly defines marriage between one man, and one woman, libs are pushing for gay marriages. Lev 18 22, Roman 1, Jud 19 are all clear on homosexuality being evil. Libs support abortion, but God told Jeremiah in the book of Jer that he knew him in the womb, and loved him then. The libs are for gov sponsored welfare, where Thes 3 10 tells us that if a man will not work, then he should not eat. James chap 1 tells us that charity comes from the individual, not the collective. On just about every topic, American libs go against Bible. At the last democrat national convention, dems voted on mentioning the name of God. When libs here the name God, they booed.
Honduras is leading the world in murder -http://www.smh.com.au/travel/the-worlds-10-deadliest-cities-20121010-27cnz.html
world homicide rates http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=161310 http://www.economist.com/blogs/dailychart/2011/10/homicide-rates
black on black violence http://globalgrind.com/news/7000-black-people-murdered-each-year-other-blacks-details
You would also do well to check the uniform crime reports, the FBI crime stats, and the Center for Disease Control page
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Trigus
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 8:14amIs it not strange? An Administration (Barry Obama and his band of 40 thieves) threaten legal Firearm Dealers (US Citizens), who refused to sell Firearms to Government Straw buyers, with IRS and ATF problems. This same Administration then took these Illegally gained Firearms and armed the Mexican Drug Cartels. Now this Administration wants to take the HONEST US CITIZENS FIREARMS.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.”
Benjamin Franklin
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In an act of complete generosity by the United States for arming Drug Cartels with Firearms (illegally gained by government official from Honest US Citizens under threat.) The United States should give to Mexico the State called California.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 11:48amPoor JZS/Meteors cannot google the Luxembourg or Honduras murder rate herself/himself.
Poor, poor JZS/Meteors, can you imagine. Rangerskippy does not provide links in each & every post.
Can you imagine Meteors outrage, her disgust? Like many other poster including Meteors himself. Ranger does not footnote each & every statement.
I have found that if you put any links or too many people simply do not respond to the posts.
Meanwhile a concerned & chiding Meteors posts whole essays with nary a link.
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180pilot
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 11:57amEspecially for idiots likd “EncinoM” if you live in Encino, or most anywhere in the already “assault rifle” free state of California. Read how long it takes a 911 cell phone call to get you any help against an armed criminal:
http://healthcare-economist.com/2012/08/29/do-not-call-911-in-california/
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 12:34pmSkippy, I have to admit it’s amusing to hear conservative Christians argue that the Bible teaches conservative principals, such as letting the poor starve so that the richest can become ever richer. Let’s see, you quote Leviticus with regard to gay marriage. Leviticus also says, “If a man commits adultery with another man’s wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.” (Leviticus 20:10 NLT). Do you believe that? Exodus 21:15 (NAB) says, “Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.” What about that? Do you believe it? Why aren’t conservative Christians promoting the Biblical punishments of stoning and burning to death of children who hit there parents or people who have sex outside marriage?
Where exactly does the Bible say charity comes from individuals, not a collective? A church is a collective. Churches can’t help the poor? So the Bible says that if a man can’t work – if he’s injured, or old, or sick – the Christian thing to do is to let him starve to death? You want a Christian nation, but our nation can’t help the poor?
Nah, you just pick and choose your quotes to make it appear that Jesus actually thought the poor were a bunch of bums and deserve to die. I’m not buying it.
Also, FYI, for large, industrialized countries, the US actually has one of the highest murder rates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
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girlnurse
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 12:41pmWHO does this Biatch think she is!? Diane..you can have my gun when you give up ALL your own guns and/or armed guards and protection! I don’t care WHO you are–you are NOT special! You have NO special rights to defend yourself against the crazies out here just because you are a senator!!! Your handbasket awaits you my dear.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 1:16pmSendTheMeteors
Also, FYI, for large, industrialized countries, the US actually has one of the highest murder rates
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Once again Meteors expounds her one variable theory of the causation of crime.
Read VladTepesblog sweetie. Crime is rising in Europe. I also know this from personal experience. I cannot safely visit the apartment complex in a major Western European city where my aunt once lived.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminology
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-control_theory_of_crime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_opportunity_theory
But Meteors cares for none of this. She and Obama are 2 of a kind.
- Embassy attacked: Film control.
- Sandy Hook: gun control
- Someone pushed under a train again: Train Control.
Meteors are all about objects control & not about self control.
For example Meteors would willingly support “Doctors’ kitchen knives ban call”. This was a news story from the BBC warms to cockles of Meteor’s progressive heart.
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girlnurse
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 1:47pmMETEORS: The bible is more than the just the OT Jewish law that you are quoting and fyi people are sinners, period–Then there is the “law” that they had in their Jewish society back then and the law that we have in our society today. What do you think they would say a thousand years from now if they read about the government encouraging killer baby murder mills that grind up infants all day long??? You see THAT my dear is why we “need” a Savior. THAT is why Jesus came to seek and save that which is lost (which the OT pointed us to all along). We are ALL guilty of sin but once you are born again and the spirit of God lives within you—you can more clearly see the SIN that is in our society. Is homosexuality sin? Yes! But so is murder, slander, and fornication! Stick to what you know.
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eagledown
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 1:51pmThe more the communist (Democrats, Progressives, Socialists, Marxists, that’s exactly what they are) push Tyrannical policies like Gun Control, the more they push us, law abiding citizens into a dangerous corner.
They are choosing this fight, not us.
The irony is, what they are actually doing is galvanizing us, by having dialogue and reaffirming who we are as a people and what we are willing to die for. These constant attacks on our liberty and freedoms granted to us by God and the US Constitution will ultimately lead to conflict.
The choice is simple, we choose Freedom and Liberty, or we choose Tyranny.
These are also two choices people working in the US government/Military/Local Authorities will have to make, they are people just like us; they have children too. Obey your oath, or collaborate with communists.
It’s a time to choose sides, the ideological differences are too deep and irreconcilable.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 3:11pmSendthemeatballs
Wow, debating with you is just too easy.
Your comment “it’s amusing to hear conservative Christians argue that the Bible teaches conservative principals, such as letting the poor starve so that the richest can become ever richer”
Find one conservative that makes that claim? Prior to the US having welfare, we did not have a population of starving poor people. Churches, communities, and family helped out those in need.
Check and see who is running the charitable soup kitchens and homeless shelters across the nation. It is not atheists like yourself, it is our Christians. Christians in the US send more charity worldwide, than all other nations combined. Atheists are not sending missionaries to the remote jungles of Africa and South America, but Christians do
The federal gov welfare program only made more poor people, to where we now have 46 million on food stamps. It does not get rid of the poor; it creates a class that leaches off from society, but always votes democrat. Kind of how Mao rode to power on the back of the peasant farmer, and then killed 60 million of them.
Concerning the Bible and Charity; Check charitable giving’s of democrats, then check republicans, and you will find there is no comparison. Dudes like Dick Cheney give a huge portion, were Joe Biden barely gives.
Nowhere in the Bible did Jesus ever command the government to steal from the rich, and redistribute to the poor. In James chapter one we are tol
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 3:13pmNowhere in the Bible did Jesus ever command the government to steal from the rich, and redistribute to the poor. In James chapter one we are told that real religion is giving to the widows and orpahns, but in Thes s3 10, we are told that folks who will not work, should not eat.
Leviticus is one of the books of the law, written to the children of Israel. The laws were specific to the children of Israel, but we now that if it was a sin then, it is a sin now. Jesus did not change the law, he fulfilled it. When the woman was caught in adultery, Jesus told her to go and sin no more. He did not stone here, nor did he let the people, nor did he condone her sexual immorality. Had they brought him a sodomite, I imagine he would have done the same. The New Testament (Romans chapter 1) is very clear that homosexuality is wickedness, just as it was in the OT.
Notice when Jesus met the maniac of Gadara, this man was running around naked, and cutting on himself. Jesus and the disciples did not take off their clothes and join him, but they did give him the gospel. When they left, this man was clothed and in his right mind. When Jesus dealt with people, he forgave them, but they changed their wicked lifestyle.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 3:14pmAs far as our murder rate and the numbers in relation to other industrialized nations. You may not like the facts, but they are the facts in reference to this topic. Our murder stats are out of whack, because our black population (12% of the pop) are doing half of the nations murders. If we lowered black murder rates to the same as whites, we would drop our overall murder rate by just about 40%. That is a huge drop, and would make us one of the lowest murder per capita rates in the world.
You will also notice that our violent crime is intrinsically tied to our welfare population.
Go Check Japan, and tell me what percent of their population is on welfare, does not contribute to society, and is black, then come back and talk to me.
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Slipstick
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 3:16pmI pray, too. It’s an old Russian one my Grandmother taught me: ” May the Lord Bless and keep the Tsar — Far away from us…” I’m beginning to think that the TSAr’s need ALL our prayers…
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VMA214
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 5:13pmYou are right in all you’ve said and I’m right there with you CESSNA. The only question I have for all is what are you going or willing to do to keep the freedoms you know. The true patriots will take a stand against all enemies, no matter whom they are or what they look like. So many will fold in fear, but then, enough will hold true to their beliefs in what a free nation is and what it’s citizens must do…just look at the photo at top, all I see is evil incarnate!!!
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Grey Eagle
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 7:16pmYep, you certainly got that right.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 9:26pmSkippy proclaims that “Wow, debating with you is just too easy.” One certain sign that a person never went to college or even learned much in high school is starting an argument by declaring what a great debater they are. Usually that’s a sign of insecurity, but in any case adds nothing to your argument. Especially when it takes three rambling posts to respond to my one.
Skippy you say that “The libs are for gov sponsored welfare, where Thes 3 10 tells us that if a man will not work, then he should not eat.” Then you backtrack and say that’s not actually true in the case of the the sick, the elderly, the injured, the disabled those unable to find work and so on. Skippy, come one, either that’s God’s will or it isn’t. That’s your quote. So are you sticking with your Biblical injunction that “if a man will not work, then he should not eat” or not? Yes or no?
I know, you don’t really believe literal Word of the Bible either do you. This is where you say that, well, the Bible isn’t literally true, there are all sorts of exemptions for the young, the old, the disabled and those who are unable to find work no matter how hard they try. And, you might say, those people are covered by churches. The food, the housing, the cancer treatments, the medications, and all those things which give dignity and a chance at living and providing food and education for their children. Sure Skippy.
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Thatsenough
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 10:35pmWhen Ms Feinstein gives up her gun and all her armed guards, then I’ll vote for her gun ban. Not before.
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rangerskippy
Posted on December 29, 2012 at 8:47ammeatballs
The Bible is true, cover to cover, and I believe every word.
No where does the Bible ever call for a government run socialism, where you punish the hard working, and reward the lazy. You are not able to show me one verse, where Jesus advocated taking from the rich via the gov, and redistribution of wealth.
Every verse on charity is aimed at the individual Christian.
Prior to LBJ’s (and the dems) giant welfare programs, we did not have folks starving in the streets in America. We took care of our elderly, we cared for the injured, and we also cared for much of the worlds downtrodden via Christian charity.
Are you trying to tell me that the 47 million on food stamps are all orphans, widows ,and disabled?
We have a welfare system that has become a way of life, and it breeds more welfare, and more crime.
I attend a church that is known for its bus ministry into the toughest and roughest projects and slums in our area. I spend time in these places, and with the kids in these places. They have a belief that they are entitled to welfare, and that the gov owes it to them, based on the color of their skin. It has been instructed to them.
I have been around the world (I am an active duty Infantry officer in the US army, with 25 years of service). I have seen the poor, what we have is lazy people, more than we have “poor” people.
Block the stream coming across the border, and let our welfare population do the work that immigrants are coming
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upeopleneedtogetalife
Posted on December 29, 2012 at 9:27pmAre both Boxer and Feinstein Jewish?
How is it possible that both CA senators both be Jewish? I thought they were supposed to be a minority?
Appears to be a minority with an awful lot of power? You don’t suppose that power comes from illegal money which has been printed at Ben Shalom Bernankme’s Federal Reserve do you? lol
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dublinthewagons
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 12:10amEagledown hats off to your post. The problems @ hand famous quotes will not cure.
Open eyes a clear mind and determination. Better to see the hinchmen for what they are & are after.
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dublinthewagons
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 12:22amWhen the dollar is no more. Who will trade their gun for a bowl of rice? Sell their blood for a hungry child to eat one more time before starving to death anyway.
This is what we face. Freedom is not cheep. The price will be dear. I hope and pray we have enough intestinal fortitute to withstand the storm within us. God & countries last hope here on earth.
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pkoning
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:54pmWhat’s needed is a zero tolerance policy. We have to tell politicians “if you vote for this, I don’t care what excuse you give me, I *will* support your opponent at the next election, no matter who it is. A vote for this is a vote against me, and I will *not* forgive or forget.”
Then follow up. Make it stick. In the past, all too often politicians have gotten away with these crimes because we have not applied a zero tolerance policy. We have re-elected them as “the lesser evil”. We have to stop doing that.
Yes, if the person voting for this is a Republican, we still have to do this. Hold your nose and vote for the democrat next time. Anyone who votes for this is your enemy no matter what party label he wears, and no matter what else he does for you. Don’t cut him any slack at all, none.
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toiletclogga
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:11pmRemember the Treasury Dept purchase of billions of rounds of ammunition? Anybody believe this was in the works for a long time? I do!
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:27pmIndeed, the disarming of America is soon to be at hand.
And something else, recall the reports of many departments of the Fed’s now have their own versions of SWAT teams for their disposal.
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DadRocked
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:45pmOn a side note, these liberal hypocrites find it convenient and socially acceptable to send their children to non-govt schools while denying less affluent parents access to school choice and vouchers.
Anti-gun advocate David Gregory of NBC sends his kids to the Sidwell Friends School in DC, as does Obama. It has 11 armed security guards, as it should since our Capital has a high murder rate. The murder rate has gone down in recent years because political fat-cats are taking over the bad neighborhoods.
If these Hollywooders and politicals would get rid of the bodyguards, turn in the guns we know they have, and send their children to unguarded government schools, we might actually listen to them.
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For my Liberty!
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:00pmIt was…and everyone should read what is over the CLOSE horizon for us here….we are in DEEP TROUBLE! I am afraid I do not see a way out of this one. This has NOTHING to do with crime….it has EVERYTHING to do with the NWO, Agenda 21, and America becoming a SOCIALIST Country…..
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/52005?utm_source=CFP+Mailout&utm_campaign=364c513134-Call_to_Champions&utm_medium=email
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Hobbs57
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:03pmYou know it … While not a conspiracy nut by any fashion, I am beginning to give weight to those who point thing out like “Sandy Hook” showing up on the map in that Batman movie. I would have never imagined myself even considering such things, but I have seen what these tyrants have done in the past and recognize our rights and liberties have been being forcibly taken from us for a very long time now. Events like every President who tried to move us away from the central bank being either shot or murdered, seems no longer like a coincidence. Just look across the pond, at England, where those chaps rights are not even an inconvenience anymore. They just trample over them as the powers to be give the green light. The media is complacent and turns to look the other way when told. So much of which sounds familiar to our current state of affairs. The only difference here is the media seems to be part of the same destructive force that is driving to move towards a new world order. Nothing aggravates me more than the intellectual elites attitude towards others, having the point of view that they really do feel they are doing for us what we can’t do for ourselves. That of which doesn’t apply to them, because they are different. A new order, where everything is equal an fair, except for the fact it doesn’t apply to them, because they will be the ruling class. Because they are so smart, of course. …. Ughhh, seems so hopeless sometimes…
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jjoy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:26pm@FOR MY LIBERTY!
“I am afraid I do not see a way out of this
The “way out of this” is to “lock and Load” and have the balls to “stand up” for your freedom…
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GroverCleveland
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:35pmFOR_MY_LIBERTY: Do you really not know that the “informational” link you posted is pure fiction, pure entertainment? What’s more, it’s bad fiction. It’s poorly written. It’s awkward and implausible. The so-called “source” has precisely the same style of diction, cadence and syntax as his “interviewer.” Only paranoid children believe this kind of junk. For godsake, get some fresh air!
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EgbertThrockmorton
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:55pmThere are NEVER any “coincidences”.
When Feinstein gives up her City of San Francisco issued California concealed weapons permit, since her MAIN/Primary residence IS in Marin County, California, then we can talk about her idiotic proposal.She is merely pandering (in the literal sense) to her ridiculous constituency that continues to live in fear of the mentally I’ll, the homeless and drug abusers that now abound in San Francisco. Feinstein and her ilk ruined that city completely. Like seeing people defecate in downtown SF? Thank Dianne Feinstein. Like being strong-armed by homeless demanding “donations” while visiting SF? Thank Dianne Feintstein. Love the smell of urine in the air? Thank Dianne Feinstein and her “progressive thinking”, it’s working well for San Francisco…..
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fixer
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:04pmmake sure you have armor piercing rounds,because when they come,they’ll be wearing kevlar
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:10pm@Fixer, does that super glue and steel BB on a hollow point round actually work to pierce body armor?
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eagledown
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 5:03pm@GROVERCLEVELAND
I appreciate the skepticism.
Even if it’s the same guy and is fabricated, all of if very plausible.
I think you are the one that needs to come up for air to see what has been a very diabolical plan to destroy us from with-in.
Ok try hearing from a Congressman and a Governor.
This is the real story. ( and ties in with exactly what that “Fake” interview is talking about )
https://vimeo.com/52009124
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WarMunger_Al
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:12pmJust above the sternum at the base of the neck..soft target.
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Skeeterhawk
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 7:35amhttp://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/03/robert-farago/full-list-of-armed-federal-agencies/
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BobM
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 12:32pmGot a clue as to what 4.9 MILLION deer hunters can do with just bolt action rifles? Maybe some semi autos in that mix? That number is just in FOUR states. So if the Feds think their “SWAT teams” can stand up to the LARGEST STANDING ARMY IN THE WORLD, I’d say MOLON LABE.
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AUsername
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:10pmCome on Rand Paul filibuster this garbage.
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SandboxSoldier
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:20pmAnd charge her for treason, subversion, and impersonating a woman.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:42pm@Sand, you mean impersonating a human.
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chips1
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:46pmLimit the number of bodyguards that in total, carry more than 10 rounds. Example would be 5 bodygards with 2 rounds each. Works for me.
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SandboxSoldier
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:27pmYeah that last part was meant as humor, while we all seethe.
Please report posters such as encinom, as trolls. They are not welcome here and do nothing but invoke posts that can be used against us in a court of law. Watch what you type. There are such things as plants and shills whose sole purpose is to I filtrate and incite others for their benefit.
Report them, make the moderators do their jobs.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:54pmSandboxSoldier
Maybe the moderators will get sick of having to removed the comments so many times they will use a program like Websense & block their IP address
It works, I know. I was blocked by a liberal site. If I had threatened them they would have had the police at my door. I know that for a fact. If I had cited the Bible they would have laughed & thought they were like kids poking sticks at a caged animal. I did not even use profanity. But using the FBI Uniform Crime Report (UCR), Center for Disease Control (CDC) statistics, Quadrennial Defense Review (QDR) & other resources & they feel threatened. I might have converted some, picked some off slowly & over time (increasingly so). So the ranchers protected their flock. They blocked dissent. Gotta have followers.
Oh I would use the Bible. the wisdom of the Bible comports with good living. You can see this in the FBI UCR & CDC stats.
The rancher who blocked me? Oh he is here at this site. Such a hypocrite!
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DontFear2012
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:10pmPlease view and share http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6E-th9XqXg and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dq2BfL_QCQ
In the United States, You are 32% More Likely to Be a Victim of Violent Crime in States that have Enacted Strict Brady Gun Control Laws.
Internationally, Countries that have Enacted Gun Bans Have Violent Crime Rates 300% Higher than the United States.
Every Year in the United States, 80,000 Lawful Gun Owners File Police Reports Stating That They Used a Gun to Defended Themselves Against Violent Crime.
Each Year Surveys Show That Over 2,000,000 Americans Used a Lawfully Owned Gun To Prevent Themselves from Becoming the Victim of a Violent Crime.
Contrary to news media reports, the vast majority of Americans do not believe gun control measures will prevent mass shootings at schools.
A December 18, 2012 poll conducted by the Gallup organization, clearly shows that the vast majority of the American public agrees with the recent recommendations of the National Rifle Association with regard to what would be an effective approach to preventing mass shootings at schools. Please visit http://www.gallup.com for the poll details.
The Gallup poll results directly support the recommendations of the National Rifle Association made during a press conference on December 21, 2012. Please see http://home.nra.org/# for more information.
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DadRocked
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:48pmThis past weekend, a family in Sacramento, CA was a having a sleepover. A little after 3:00a, armed intruders broke into the home. Their mistake was that they picked the wrong house.
The homeowner had a gun and knew how to use it. He used his gun to protect his family and the other kids that were there for the sleepover. He drove the intruders outside where a gun battle ensued. Cops were called to a report of gun shots being fired.
When they arrived, they found 1 dead and the homeowner with non-life threatening wounds.
Later that day, a 2nd intruder was busted and found to have been wounded in the gun battle.
There may have been a 3rd involved since another guy showed up at a local hospital with a gunshot wound.
Sacramento resident kills would-be robber; 3 wounded in gunfight
Published: Sunday, Dec. 23, 2012
http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/23/5072877/sacramento-resident-kills-would.html
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:57pm@Dad
Thanks. And keep fighting the good fight.
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chips1
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:57pmSpeaking of having armed adults at schools, there are 4 or 5 schools within 50 miles around here. One of the schools, don’t know which one, has between 5 to 7 high school seniors that are stashing weapons to protect students incase something happens. Doesn’t sound very good to me. These kids are scared to go to school because the police are 15 to 20 minutes away. I feel so sorry for the kids now a days.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:09pmMore bad ideas from the bad idea people.
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encinom
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:31pmWhere, the Satan’s spokes men at the NRA didn’t comment.
Of course Gun Nuts are proving to be the problem, caring more about thier toys than hte lives of children.
AxelPhantom
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:40pmPlease oh wise and powerful encinom, enlighten us. Tell us how this will prevent the next mentally disturbed person from creating a slaughter. Do tell…..
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Red Meat
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:41pmI wonder how many Republican’s will support this nonsense?
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JeffersonsPen
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:47pmEncinom When you get done with your oral feccies expulsion ild like to suggest you and you boyfriend go overseas and witness first hand what rights “subjects” have in othe countries. There should be little to no federal gun laws……..The second amendment was installed to deter the fed Dumb@ss. Those states that want gun laws can have them.
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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:53pm@encinom
If you were American, you would know that guns are what allowed the United States to become the United States. Without them, the United States would be England (or later on, Germany).
So despite your hatred of the freedom of Americans to have weapons, it is those weapons that made you and keep you free (if you were an American that is). Through the fear that the possession of these guns by the public is manifested in the elected government. This is as the founders tended it to be. .That fear of the people needed to exist. This is in order to maintain the balance of power within this great nation.
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Popp40
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:55pmHey Encinom…why don’t you go ask the 60,000 people killed last year in Mexico….where by the way gun ownership is ILLEGAL. But how could 60,000 people have been killed when guns are outlawed in Mexico….could it be that criminals don’t care!
The problem is not gun owners or even the gun. The problem is the person behind the gun pulling the trigger. Plus, the blame is on people like you and others who want to take our ability to protect ourselves from criminals and a tryanical government. That being said which category do you fall in because it is obvious by your comments you fall into one of these 2 groups. Are you a criminal or are you one of those government elites who believe you need to control every action we do…..while you do as you please.
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fixer
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 3:12pmhey encinom,as soon as i get this ips to address program working we’ll post yours so we can see what you use for protection
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darkknight91
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:32pmConversing and trying to reason with that twit Encinob is a waste of time. He is a sissy and irrelevant. Encinob, get off the computer and go knit a sweater. When SHTF, you’ll be dead in the first wave.
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Techcon
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:08pmAny thing is dangerous WHEN A DANGEROUS PERSON IS HOLDING IT–AHHH!
Are we ever gonna discuss mental health, ever? These psychos foreshadow their acts. Listen to them and COMMIT THEM!
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afishfarted
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:19pmThese steps are exactly how communists have confiscated weapons. Don’t think it’ll happen here? Hitler did it, Mao did it, Stalin did it~~~create a registry to make it easier for the government to confiscate.
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Techcon
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:29pm@afishfarted
What I mean is, “If a guy VOLUNTARILY walks into a college mental health department, and says, ‘I might as well climb the tower with my deer rifle and start shooting people,’ that guy should be committed.â€
No registration, bans, or new guns laws required!
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afishfarted
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:02pmYou’re exactly right
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dvlfrmdnvr
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:05pmMolon Labe!!
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BIGDANE
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:05pmFront Sight gets it. http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/2012/12/19/front-sight-special-blog-our-message-is-being-heard-keep-it-moving/
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:04pmNotice how she is holding her hands like an evil Mr Burns from The Simpsons.
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MisterSarcastic
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:13pmSinister.
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Twobyfour
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 10:22pmYou know that sinister is Latin for left, right? Coincidentally, in English, “left” is for “sinister”.
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BIGDANE
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:04pmEvery one will ignore the cause of most of these school incidences http://ssristories.com/index.php?p=school The 04 FDA hearings touched on increased suicidal ideation and the results were the warnings now required for all antidepressants. Many testified about out of character and sudden violent behavior while taking SSRI and nothing was done. How many shooters taking an antidepressant does it take before people make a connection?
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darkeningskies
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:04pmhey bi#@H, congress/president gets rid of their bodily protection or you will be considered hypocrites
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cemerius
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:03pmThe crazy Witch needs to keep her grubby paws Restricted to those fruits and nuts in California ONLY!!! I am sick and tired of San Francisco politics being FORCED on the rest of the country!!!! Elections have consequences but I sure as HELL can’t vote in California and REFUSE to live in that state EVER again!!!!! Texas BEWARE most of those escapees from crazy California will NOT be satisfied until they bleed you dry too……NEVER trust a “mover”!!
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liberalsarealiens
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:03pmAin’t gonna happen Feinstein!
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:11pmSenator Feistein had a concealed carry. She might not need one now, because she can afford to live in a gated community with private security guards. She is a hypocrite.
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Tri-ox
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:02pmImprisoning enemies of the United States, such as senile moonbat Feinstein, would have much more benefit for society than gutting the U.S. Constitution and seizing legal weapons from law-biding citizens.
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Berbel73
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:47pmNo encinom the enemy is you and those like you who are willing to sacrific freedom and liberty for the illussion of security.
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AUsername
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:58pmThe enemies are those nazis and communists that want to control guns than confiscate them to mass murder and enslave people.
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:02pmDOA in the House, or it better be.
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CatB
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:09pmAmen …
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dvlfrmdnvr
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:16pmI have a bad feeling the dems with use the media to scare the rhinos into voting for something close to this.
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GunsBlazin
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:33pmI have something more scary than the media…
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thop1960
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:39pmDon’t forget we have the “Executive Order in Chief” in the White House. He is waiting with baited breath to sign this into law. Never let a diaster go to waste. If the American people don’t stand up and say “NO”, this WILL happen. Republicans are too scared to raise their voice on this matter, they have turned into a bunch of wimps. It’s up to the people (as it should be) to stop tyranny from their government. They are afterall our employees, we are still a constitutional republic and will be until they take it from our cold dead hands…Thank you Mr. Heston.
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Thorn2455
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:01pmSen Feinstein is a menace.
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txannie
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:00pmWhat part of “bad people don’t register thier guns” do the lib/progs not get? Is it too complicated to for thier brains to comprehend that criminals don’t give a rats’ naked tail about “legislation” to ban guns? I’m so frustrated at how dumb they are presenting themselves to be that I could spit.
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cemerius
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:07pmCall me a “bad people” then….my state does NOT have a mandatory registration BUT the few guns I own that required background checks are most definitely on some Federal watchdog list!!!
When guns are outlawed only Outlaws will have guns…….
Give me liberty of give me death!! The kettle is boiling over……
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Popp40
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:14pmI have come to the conclusion that the reason the libs/progressives don’t get the fact that criminals don’t obey the laws is because they themselves are criminals. Just look at how they always take up for criminals and give them more rights then the law abiding citizens. They are protecting their own….and ultimately protecting themselves…..remember Feinstein carries a gun herself…but we all know that if any law that is passed she will not follow. After all look at Obamacare, none of the Senators have to obey that law, yet we the citizens do!
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RevPh
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:24pmOh, they “get it” alright. The agenda is not our safety but our disarming.
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Republic_of_Texas
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:20pmSomeone needs to ask Feinstein how she is going to stop the Mexican drug cartels from adding illegal firearms to their menu and sending them north through their well entrenched drug distribution system. Bad guys will continue to get the weapons of their choice. The cartels need a replacement for Marijuana now that it is slowly being legalized. Guns would be a boon to their profits. I’m sure the Dumbocrats will have a great plan to protect the southern boarder. Holder is doing a great job of sending guns south to the bad guys. I’m sure they will be more than happy to return the favor.
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Techcon
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:00pmAnything that would have prevented Sandy Hook, Dianne? Anything like that?
Gonna take these “…weapons of war, these ‘military’ weapons designed to kill as many people as possible…” from the police, too, Dianne?
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CatB
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:11pmIt is vile that these vultures were after the guns before the bodies were even out of the school. It is so disgusting I have no words that really express how much .. that I can post here.
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AlansTigg
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:00pmwho came up with the magic number of 10 rounds? Forgive me if I fail to agree with what someone who wants to remove my right to defend myself considers reasonable for self defense. Personally I feel that however many rounds I need to fire, however many mags I need to quickly change to reload is none of her damn business. Leave my guns alone, plain and simple, getting into debating the finer points like exactly how many rounds, what type of ejection, etc only clouds the issue. I have a God given right to defend myself and I will not debate why or how I am able to do that.
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Red Meat
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:58amThis will not end well for politicians and their minions.
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encinom
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:35pmNo, this will not end well for the gun nuts and others that value their toys above the lives of children. The NRA and other pro gun lobby groups are proving that they are the enemy of the people.
Daddy Hawg
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:03pm@Encino – you ever read anything other than the stuff you can create controversy over? How about the article on The Blaze ( http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/the-gun-control-debate-part-1-the-facts/ ) showing STATISTICS on violent crime? Will Cane is a CNN contributor no less. Can’t have facts disproving your theories or lib talking points can we. Check out this article on how a firearm may have saved some lives, at a slumber party no less.
http://politicaloutcast.com/2012/12/homeowner-3-bad-guys-0/
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:33pmEncinom
Watch the Show Facing Evil with Candice DeLong. Watch the episode “A Mother’s Love”
A mother shot at a group of 5 adolescent men who drove to her remote house to beat up or beat to death her son. What was she going to do against 5 men? Flee to a panic room.
Do you panic much encinom?
Maybe the panic room would be a bathroom in a wood frame house. They guys could bust throw a wall in 2 to 5 minutes. They could bust the door down in under 30 seconds.
Would encinom call 911 or quiver up like a chunk of quivering jello?
She went to jail. Her son lived. Success.
Five guys park on your front lawn & start crossing it to the front door with the intention of beating your son & the Great Enciclown counsels to call 911 & hope the police get there in time.
Before the head stomping & the brain damage occurs.
But we all know that encinom is brave with others people’s lives but not his.
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Proud Stray Dog
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 2:11pm@Encinom
I value both. I taught both my kids how to shoot and how to safely handle a firearm. I also taught them the true meaning of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. One is now in the Army(and takes his oath DEAD seriously), and the other one stands ready with me to defend America at home.
Of course….you basement dwellers would freak at reality. When you stare enough evil in the face, you learn how to take care of yourself.
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Wisdom7
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:09pm@Encinom
Not really. You are only proving you are completely ignorant when it comes to firearms. I would like to see this list of 900 exempt firearms because according to the “Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds” rule, that would include things like a Marlin Model 60 .22 LR semi-automatic squirrel/varmint rifle with a tubular magazine that holds around 14 rounds. I’ve had one since I was around ten years old.
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Larry E
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 6:11pmEncinom, you’ve obviously had what passes for a brain removed from your head and replaced with pasture pavement. The idea that every crime is the fault of the NRA or guns is too stupid to even be considered. Don’t want to blame the criminally insane who, since they never obey the law, always seem to find the means of committing their crimes, or violent video games or movies where violence is glamorized by people who’ve never themselves done anything more violent than squash a bug.
It’s fools like you who have no idea about what you rant about, but never let your ignorance bother you at all. You don’t happen to be Feinstein do you? You sound a lot alike. Not very bright, but very shrill.
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19RANDY59
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:58amI sure am proud to have the permission to bare arms(sarcasm)and it’s not being infringed upon.
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dgb05
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:57amHere we go. Get ready for the disarm America campaign.
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USPATRIOT101
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:53amThis is nothing but gun registration. And as always, after registration comes confiscation.
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randy
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:51amBoy, they sure are afraid of legal gun holders aren’t they?
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Cavallo
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:04pmThey should be. That is what makes for a free people.. assuming we don’t give the tiny bit we have left away.
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Thighmaster
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:31pmHow many Syrians have been killed by their government ? Look what happens when the people arm themselves and sometimes our government helps whichever side our officials want to win or stand by while citizens are slaughtered when they’re on the side of another corrupt government. I can’t say it enough, our second amendment rights weren’t given to us for hunting game..
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BrutalTruth
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 1:12pmOur Second Ammendment Rights weren’t given by the Constitution, but are protected. Government doesn’t give me my Rights. Protection of those Rights are also not at the whim of those in office at the time. Each person needs to come to grips with the line they won’t allow themselves to cross. I’m guessing a lot of people will fold.
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dosdelgados
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 11:51amOne step at a time. Feel-good legislation. Coming soon: total disarmament. I smell a revolt.
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 12:09pmThere are more gun owners than people who voted for Obama last election. They can be defeated legislatively. And then in the polls in 2014
We need stories on Sidwell school. Maybe they do not need security. With the president’s kids there, I am sure they are a dozen or more secret service officers there with CCW. they probably also run the plates of cars that go by the school.
Sidwell school needs to go on record as to what their security is. Then we can show how the rich politicians, MSM & other elites live compared to regular schools.
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CathyvanDyke
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 4:57pmWalkabout
Three very informative reads exposing the Washington elite double standard.regarding armed security entitlement.
At Sidwell Friends School, Obamas Will Encounter Parents From Clinton Campaign
Friday, December 12, 2008
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/12/11/AR2008121103579.html
School Obama’s Daughters Attend Has 11 Armed Guards
4 Dec 2012
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/23/School-Obama-s-Daughters-Attend-Has-11-Armed-Guards-Not-Counting-Secret-Service
Mother of six says school kids deserve to be protected by armed, trained guards
By Gayle Trotter
Published December 22, 2012
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/12/22/mother-six-says-school-kids-deserve-to-be-protected-by-armed-trained-guards/
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:06pmCathyvanDyke
Thank you very kindly for your posts & the attendant links
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Walkabout
Posted on December 27, 2012 at 8:12pmClassic Obama
obama sends his kids to private schools & will not give kids in Washington D.C. public schools tuition vouchers.
Sidwell has guards, but Obama is opposed to guards in public schools. At least he will be until it is his ideal, he can get power from it & they forget it was originally Wayne LaPierre’s ideal.
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Apple Bite
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 12:25amRevolt on stand by. Civil discord imminent.
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Patriot Huntress
Posted on December 28, 2012 at 9:01amWhat amazes me is that Diane Frankenstein is protected by armed guards everyday at our expense. She is basically saying to all of her constituents is your life isn’t as important as mine. I’m above all of the peasants and so what if your robbed or raped, maybe you should have called the police faster. She needs to visit with some of the women who’s names and addresses were revealed in that NY paper the other day. Some of them had protective orders which I’m guessing was against an abusive ex. If you’ve never been in that situation then there is no way to understand what it means to have a loaded weapon at the ready to save your own life. Some of these women may have moved and made it more difficult to be found until these idiots provided google directions to their homes. Once again a typical ******* who never thinks of the consequences outside of their little bubbles. The older I get the more I realize that my only defense against an intruder will be a gun. As a small female there is no way I could ever make a stand against a male who wanted to rob me or worse. My only option for self preservation is to be armed and have a mop at the ready.
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