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One Down: This Is How Congress Reached a Deal to Stop a Spike in Milk Prices

Dec. 30, 2012 5:42pm Erica Ritz

This Is How Congress, Washington, Hopes to Avoid $7 a Gallon Milk in 2013

Jim Mitchell selects a gallon of milk at a Milwaukee grocery store on Tuesday, Dec. 4, 2012. (Photo: AP)

WASHINGTON (TheBlaze/AP) — The top leaders in both parties on the House and Senate Agriculture committees have agreed to a one-year extension of the 2008 farm bill that expired in October, a move that could head off a possible doubling of milk prices next month.

Senate Agriculture Committee Chairman Debbie Stabenow, D-Mich., indicated the House could vote on the bill soon, though House leaders have not yet agreed to put the bill on the floor. In addition to the one-year extension that has the backing of the committees, the House GOP is also considering two other extension bills: a one-month extension and an even smaller bill that would merely extend dairy policy that expires Jan. 1.

Expiration of those dairy programs could mean higher prices at the grocery store within a few weeks. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack said Americans face the prospect of paying $7 for a gallon of milk if the current dairy program lapsed and the government returned to a 1948 formula for calculating milk price supports.

A spokesman for House Speaker John Boehner said Sunday that Republican leaders had not decided how they would proceed on the farm extension, though a vote could come as soon as Monday. Boehner has pushed back on passage of a new five-year farm bill for months, saying there were not enough votes to bring it to the House floor after the House Agriculture Committee approved it in July. The Senate passed its version of a farm bill in June.

The prospect of higher milk prices has motivated some action. The bipartisan extension also includes disaster assistance to farmers affected by a lingering drought this year, along with extensions to other farm programs that expired in October.

Instead of just extending current dairy policy, the extension bill includes an overhaul of dairy programs that was included in both the Senate and House committee bills. The new dairy programs include a new, voluntary insurance program for dairy producers. Those who choose that new program also would have to participate in a market stabilization program that could dictate production cuts when oversupply drives down prices – an idea that hasn’t gone over well with Boehner.

In July, he called the current dairy program “Soviet-style” and said the new program would make it even worse. Large food companies that process and use dairy products have backed Boehner, saying the program could limit milk supplies and increase their costs.

CBS Philly has more on the story (and a few reactions from local grocery shoppers):

Stabenow blamed Boehner for getting to the point where an extension is the only option.

“The lack of action by the House Republican leadership has put us in a situation where we risk serious damage to our economy unless we pass a temporary extension,” she said.

One of the reasons Boehner has balked at bringing up a farm bill is disagreement within his caucus over how much money should be cut from food stamps, which make up roughly 80 percent of the half-trillion-dollar bill’s cost over five years. House Agriculture Chairman Frank Lucas, R-Okla., has unsuccessfully pushed his leadership for months to move on the legislation despite the disagreement over food aid.

On Sunday, Lucas said he hoped the extension would pass both chambers quickly as GOP leadership mulled their options.

“It is not perfect – no compromise ever is – but it is my sincere hope that it will pass the House and Senate and be signed by the president by Jan. 1,” he said.

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RoDogg
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:01pm
Apparently, milk prices will have to be a lot higher before the idiots in this country start waking up!

Please, raise taxes, make gas ten dollars a gallon, and milk ten dollars a gallon, maybe then, people will start disliking the size of government?

*wishful thinking…

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:13pm
  No, they’ll be told to blame freedom, so they will blame freedom. We’re dealing with a highly dysfunctional electorate here.
  
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- RoDogg
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:32pm
  You know Ghost…. thats what makes this whole situation so scary!
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:42pm
  you might want to google FDA approving Frankenfood..heading to your supermarkets soon..Monsanto..the insecticide company to produce GMO foods..is so big..that they can and do demand no labeling of their frankenfood..designed for the masses..I understand that there was corn on the cob at Wal Mart recently that killed rats..Salmon is on the way..It has an unnatural protein in it which if like the rest of the Frankenfood..adheres to your intestine and multiplies exponetially
  suspected of causing cancer..auto immune disease and alzhimers..France found a link between GMOs and massive tumors and called for a worldwide ban..Monsanto..the producers..will not even allow it in their cafeterias..Their biggest investors? Surprise..the banks..Massive depopulation..formulated specifically for the masses..with Obamacare right on its heels..to make sure you have a cap on your paid for medical coverage..sweet..huh?
  
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- Ben__Franklin
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:54pm
  That wont work. You have to remember the majority of Obama voters are takers. They could care the less if the price of milk or bread or what ever doubles in prices. They are not paying anyways. Big Daddy O will give them all a raise on their Food Stamp Cards and Welfare Checks to cover the cost increases. The rest of us that produce will get stuck with the bill as always.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:58pm
  If the free market price of a gallon of milk is $7 – THEN THAT IS WHAT IT SHOULD BE
  
  Subsidies make no economic sense – i hope all of you understand that. Whether you pay the extra price or the government – either way we end up paying. Giving the milk guzzlers cheap milk at the expense of the the lactose intolerant makes no sense.
  
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- SavvyCowboy
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 9:24pm
  Right on RODOGG Right On!!! Let’s go off that stupid cliff and maybe just maybe the rest of the morons that voted for obummer again will wake the f_ _k up!!
  
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- brigott
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 10:23pm
  Ashes,
  
  What independent scientific evidence do you have to support and substantiate those claims? Other than wild speculation put out by paid, for-profit competitors, I mean?
  
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- listeninginVT
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 10:34pm
  subsidies are not a friend to the free market, the fact that all these gov’t ‘regulations’ are in place is why life is so blankity-blank hard and out of whack. People will pay what something is worth or they just won’t buy it, and the company will go out of business, end of story. The deck is now so stacked that our options are poisonous food and toxic food. Even organic isn’t really organic anymore, the counsel to ‘decide what can be in an organic product’ is now under control of conglomerate farm supporters and chem. company people. Also, the ‘milk’ that they are talking about, when tested guess what is in it? Blood, pus and fecal matter. Drink up!
  
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- darkknight91
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 10:36pm
  Freemarket should be a free market. Government only makes things worse. The market corrects itself. If you think the gun industry is in chaos, wait til the 2012 drought takes affect. Half of the corn crop was wiped out along with other crops and grains. That won’t only affect your portion of niblets, but also feed for cattle and poultry in which will affect beef, chicken, bread and dairy products. Not to mention water supplies are still low.
  
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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 11:23pm
  You have an highly dysfunctional electorate by design:
  
  The idiots in America have been deceived; indoctrinated not educated, a media that is corrupt gate keepers of information, agenda that is designed to drive this country in a direction designed to destroy it. Fabians, Frankfurt School, Antonio Gramcsi’s work of taking a Judeo/Christian culture down from the inside; creating a people so dumbed down they not only want cradle to grave government care but they can’t exist without it – can’t critically think, they can’t serve on juries competently and can’t vote intelligently. Useful idiots for the state.
  
  This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this
  together. Watch it. Share it. Arrange a showing in church, groups, clubs, with friends or family. Everyone who loves America needs to see this movie,
  It is free on line for the moment
  
  https://vimeo.com/52009124
  If America goes down, the free world will go down with it and it will be finished for a very, very long time…
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:17am
  Milk is like soda pop…you don’t need it so don’t buy it…I promise your children will not die without it…
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:39am
  If they really want to keep milk prices down they can stop using corn to make fuel or fuel additives. This whole scenario of using corn to make ethanol is driving not only the cost of milk up but that of beef as well as feed costs for the farmers goes up. Domestic oil drilling increases would also help as that would lower the fuel costs to ship the milk. These solutions are based too much on common sense to be implemented any time soon sadly.
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:51am
  @Redfish, do you have any idea how many different food items contain milk? The prices on everything that contains it will go up as well. This would include things such as cheese, cakes, pies, certain soups, breads, cookies, pasta dishes, etc. Simply not buying milk won’t fix the problem. An increase in milk prices will cause an overall food price increase just as the increase in fuel prices did. And we’re constantly being told there’s no inflation going on.
  
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- Chet Hempstead
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:56am
  It’s got nothing to do with raising or cutting taxes. Who taxes milk? It’s about the government spending money to keep prices down. Smaller government and lower spending means higher prices on milk, which is fine by me. I can get by on a half pint a day for my coffee, I don’t need the government to take my money so that idiots who don’t know anything about nutrition can pour gallons of the stuff into their kids.
  
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- Speaking-Monkey
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 6:59am
  I agree, the blame will fall on “wall street fat cats,” corporatism, and therefore the free market. The statist propaganda machine holds no punches and takes no blame. How unpatriotic of those greedy dairy farmers for not volunteering to produce milk for free!!!
  
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- old white guy
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 7:30am
  it would seem americans have no idea how much it costs to produce a gallon of milk. the socialist policies of the government has distorted the price for years. what a joke. the government is in debt and borrowing more money to keep the price of milk low and then printing more money to make the dollar worth less so the price has to go up. ok, does anyone grasp how stupid things have become.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 7:50am
  “Those who choose that new program would also have to participate in a “market stabilization program” that could (disastrously) dictate production cuts when oversupply drives down prices ”
  
  Oooh, that’s bad…how could we possiblyhave low milk prices? Are you kidding me? Too much milk will drive the price down, and that’s bad for consumers? Oh, I get it, it’s bad for the dairy farmer. Well, if you’re making more milk than you can sell, sell a few cows. Heaven knows I’ve gotten used to milk at $3.50 a gallon…../sarcasm off.
  
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- ashestoashes
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 7:56am
  @BRIGGOT..Here is a film by a news organization.. http://www.responsibletechnology.org/ Here is where Russia bans a shipment of corn.. http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/europe/item/13050-russia-bans-gmo-corn-over-cancer-fears-as-pressure-builds-on-monsanto
  Of course we could all go by the “Forbes” evaluation where they discovered that the rats fed the straight round-up actually survived longer than the control group..but then..it is like you said..it is all about money..I would lay odds that you don’t eat the poison..although if you are lucky..you will be and not even know it..Dennis Kuchinch..one of Ron Paul’s friends has struggled to get the labeling done..so we can choose..but has been unsuccessful..Too much “profit” being made by Monsanto and government officials..Pretty good when lawyer for Monsanto goes to work for the FDA.
  
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- 1FreeVoice
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:31am
  In the commentary about how if nothing is done (by government) the price of milk could double, they do not say that the price of milk is kept artificially high (by the government) to protect the dairy lobby.
  
  Print the rest of the story, hey?
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:51am
  @YAHSHUARULES: Indeed.
  
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- rfycom
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:05am
  Bourbon. Fine Kentucky bourbon all a man need. Milk is for sissies.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:13am
  I am with SOY on this. As tax payers, we are already subsidizing the dairy industry. We are paying for the hidden pricing. A subsidy provides the incentive not to be a cost controlled business. Efficiency and effectiveness of operations are not as rigorous when there is a built in incentive. Stop the subsidy. The free market system will find equalibrium.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:52am
  @kalidor835…I understand milk is in a lot of products just as is corn syrup. When I go to the grocery store I see things I want but I see that they have increased in price dramatically so I don’t buy them. I understand there are item’s you have to have especially if you have young children so buy only those item and nothing more. Unlike gasoline which they have us by the short hairs on if “we” stop buying products the prices will come down.
  
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- hallkbrdz
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:51am
  So cow milk goes up – big deal. I’ll just drink more almond milk.
  
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- red_white_blue2
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:55am
  I agree. Unless the pain is excruciating, liberals will never bend. They have to bleed out their ass first!
  
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- Starkadder
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:11pm
  All the while I can’t buy some milk from my neighbor who owns cows!!
  
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- zman173rd
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:31pm
  @YASHUARULES: I watched most of the movie. Sent the link on to all in my email list. Very good explanations of how it all interconnects. Thanks.
  
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- sparsam
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:53pm
  Wife and I usually buy almond drink which is sometimes called almond milk and also buy coconut milk creamer for coffee. Once in a while we’ll buy 2% milk which spouse likes using to make cornbread. I don’t think the increasing price of milk will affect the price of these substitutes which are better for us. To another point though, I remember a few decades ago my dad in Georgia could go to a local small dairy farmer and get unpasteurized milk in his own jugs for a very low price which was set by the farmer. Now you can’t buy unprocessed milk at a local dairy in some states. Goat milk is easier for babies and some adults to digest, by the way.
  
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- SciPro
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:09pm
  Actually, I see “no” end in sight, to higher food prices, in addition to that, if a ‘third-world-war’ breaks upon the shores of America, food of any kind will be in short supply … for those who think they can hunt game until things blow over .. game runs out very quickly. Maybe we all need to become a ‘Prepper’, in order to cover any eventuality. Just using a few smarts …
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:36pm
  They should let the price go to $15 a gallon. These farmers are using grain (corn, wheat, & oats) that could be turned into fuel for our cars. Run these farmers out of business and we can get gasahal down below $2.00 a gallon. You have to force kids to drink milk anyway. Just give them a Calcium pill each morning and we can have cheaper fuel.
  
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- jcvillar
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 5:13pm
  I’ve cut costs by simply pouring premium unleaded into my cornflakes. It gives me extra energy to start the new day, especially when I fire up a cigarette afterwords. I i i i i i i i i it’s GREAT!
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 6:50pm
  @redfish52
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:17am
  
  Milk is like soda pop…you don’t need it so don’t buy it…I promise your children will not die without it
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  Don’t know when you went through the public schools, but once upon a time they actually taught science and nutrition was part of it. Other foods can supply calcium but not in the large abundance found in milk. Without the proper amounts of calcium you do not have strong bones and teeth, thus the children may not die, but unless that calcium is properly replaced from some lesser source, their soft bones will break easily and teeth will rot much more quickly. If doing away with milke your children need to eat or drink large amounts of other foods high in calcium.
  
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- Mil Mom
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 6:53pm
  @redfish52
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:17am
  
  Re: my reply : Milk is like soda pop…you don’t need it so don’t buy it…I promise your children will not die without it
  Sorry, as my mouse hit reply, I caughte the spelling of milk as milke, (to late to stop it.)
  
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- oneshiner
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:30pm
  @Ashes to Ashes: I’ve heard about this report and try to remember to read labels to not get the GMO in food, but if they are dirty enough to not have to label this killer, we’re doomed to every illness that goes with this stuff. Pity the people who have the most apparent illness, allergies, etc.
  
  The company who started modifying seeds years ago, so you would have to buy new seed each year, as the modified seed would not germinate, encouraged me to start buying seeds (unmodified) to store away. If only one seed germinates, I’m ahead of the game. Monsanto had done much harm to this Nation for years. Funny, it takes Russia to know how bad it is. Where are our agencies?
  
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- Becks_Art_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:01pm
  “One Down: This Is How Congress Reached a Deal to Stop a Spike in Milk Prices”
  
  “One Down”? YOU ARE BROKE, AMERICA!
  * By borrowing in your name and spending on what they wanted, they spent all your money.
  * More than that, they spent all that you are projected to make during your lifetime.
  * Even more than that, they spent what your children will make during their lifetimes.
  
  You were broke yesterday. You are broke today. And you will be broke tomorrow.
  What part of BROKE don’t you understand, America!?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:21pm
  @Mil Mom
  Look at the countries where they do not drink much milk but still have a balanced diet….Asian countries. But asian countries do not suffer bone problems like we do. Also, mexicans dont drink much milk but their bones are fine.
  
  The truth is that our bodies get calcium from many food sources. The best food sources are ones that contain magnesium and phosphorus as well (green). Drinking milk for strong bones is like going to watching John Stewart Show for news
  
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towerguy
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:41pm
What nobody seems to see is how this will actually hurt the milk producers. Government’s price supports will cause the price to be so high that only people that have to buy milk will do so, and the volume of milk sold will drop so much that losses will result. Your Federal Government; running from crisis to crisis making things worse every day. Let’s give them a raise! Please let the system collapse so that those of us with a clue can get on with the rebuilding process.

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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:54pm
  Voting like a moron should be painful. Maybe some economic pain will cause some people to wise up and stop voting for these incompetent, power hungry, enemies of the United States.
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:53pm
  No! The people won’t wise up, if that were possible then they never would have voted for Bammy, or Romney for that matter. The fact that they voted for these losers only means that there is no hope for these people. What will happen is these fools will come FOR YOUR STUFF! Don’t depend on your guns either, they will have been confiscated by then.
  
  When the beast power falls the merchant will cry. REV 18 speaks of this. If you notice at the end of verse 13 (and slaves and the souls of men), this is speaking about us and our organs. This is speaking of a future captivity of the Israelites, once again. (The English speaking peoples)
  
  All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews. Think about it.
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 9:56pm
  The only one that would not have been an enemy of US would have been Ron Paul, and you see how he was made of no effect. If somehow he would have won the nominee and then the presidency it would not have been long until he was taken out.
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:08am
  “these fools will come FOR YOUR STUFF! Don’t depend on your guns either, they will have been confiscated by then.”
  
  If they have my guns, it means that I am already dead. What’s left of those that were sent for me can have whatever they can carry.
  
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farmerkevin
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:38pm
What a lie, 7 dollars, last month, November, we were paid 20 dollars per hundred pounds of milk, how much was a gallon of milk in the store, around here it was 4 dollars. Do the math, the dairy farmer, that’s me, was paid $1.72 a gallon. If milk goes up to $38 were it should be, we’d get $3.27 a gallon. I’m not quite sure what moron’s doing the math but it’s not quite $7 yet. If anyone out there believes the dairy farmer should get paid less than $38 per hundred pounds of milk may you and yours starve off this winter. American food has been kept horrificaly cheap by this administration, in 09 we were paid on average $10 per hundred. December 08 we were paid $24 our input costs have doubled or tripled. It’s come up slowly but not enough to keep up with costs. As for the govt. paying us what a crock of you know what. They set the milk price we get at half production cost then “help” us by giving us 20cents per hundred for “adjusting the price” that they set wrong in the first place. Thank you government for all your help, you’ve starved us out and destroyed alot of dairy farmers, I pray to God we can return the favour.

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- conservativenotarepublican
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 9:04pm
  Your dumb a$$e$ jumped in bed with them. I don’t feel a bit sorry for your poor little whiny butt. Live in the real world where the market dictates prices you guys would all go away and real business people would take over your jobs.
  
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- EscondidoFarmer
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 11:34pm
  Thanks for the math, I too am a retired dairyman and when I retired, our feed and labor costs were nearly 35% above what we got for our product. You people think the dairy farmer is filthy rich because of what you pay in the store, we don’t get the bulk of the price of a gallon of milk. Would you work 65 hours a week and try to raise a family working yourself to death all the while knowing the losses you incur will put you out of business. You can thank that moron for stating that milk contains puss and blood, ours didn’t and if it did the whole tank was dumped on the ground. We sold pure, clean milk which was wholesome. You environmental imbeciles that talk about genetically modified foods won’t find it here. What a screwed up world you people create. If you don’t like milk, go buy your genetically purified water and make a environmentally modified statement…
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:06am
  @Conservative, here’s where your premise is flawed, it wasn’t the small farmers who jumped in bed with the feds. That was the large corporate farms and the small farms are taking the hit for it. I’ve known quite a few small private farm owners who wish the government would stop the so called subsidized aid so that they could compete and it’s not just dairy farmers that are affected by it. Any small farm that produces a crop or livestock is under the boot heel of the federal government and has been for decades. Under the current administration this is just going to get much worse.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 7:59am
  I don’t know what happened to it, but in 2009 there was a bill in congress that would have MADE local dairy farmers (who didn’t have to pay shipping costs) pay a heavy tax on their milk sold locally, because it wasn’t fair to charge less to the local markets when they didn’t have to ship it half way across the country. This would have (if it passed) drove out the little guy and supported the big name brand dairies because local dairies could charge less, and sell more. It’s like cigarettes. If you charge too much, people stop smoking. If you keep the price low, people have no incentive to quit. Milk isn’t healthy for adults, and I’m dubious about it being healthy for children. That said, when it’s cheap, people would like to have it. Raise the price too much, and they’ll do without.
  
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- TonyRUS
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:49am
  Sorry, Kevin, but Conservative is absolutely right. You thought you could get something for free, thought you could defy market forces–where maybe milk IS too expensive to produce and has to become like filet mignon or caviar. We’d respect you a little bit more (a little bit) if you’d just stand up like a man and declare that you screwed up and are reaping what you sowed—and are looking for something else to produce profitably without the welfare.
  
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- farmerkevin
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 6:04pm
  No morons ,like conservitive, you don’t get it the government mandates what we recieve, the USDA sends us out a nice little letter every month and tells us how they come up with the price we get. And if we want to sell it from the farm it is illegal. Don’t you get it, the government won’t let it go to the free market, if only we could get the free market involved, we are not allowed. As most dairy farmers we hoping for a complete economic collapse to straighten things out, let the bums who won’t work starve off.
  
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- NLN
  Posted on January 1, 2013 at 2:26am
  Kevin is not even a US farmer. Look how he spelled favor. His spelling { Favour.} Where I live there are several dairies, and most of their workers are illegals.
  
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KEELHAULUM
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:18pm
“No one who makes less than $250,000 a year will see their taxes increase one dime,…” Barry Soetoro

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- Thatsitivehadenough
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:35pm
  That’s Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama. The enemy that’s inside the house.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:40pm
  Yeh, from the big eared kenyan. A real corporate cap’n.
  
  http://www.atr.org/trillion-obamacare-tax-hike-hitting-jan-a7393
  
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- Anamah
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:46pm
  The only thing Democrats know to do, besides to lie, is to blame others for their own faults.
  
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Imprimatur
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:16pm
Just like the greatly efficient 1948 formula for calculating milk support has been so effective to this day we are posting all of our comments using the newest 2013 typewriter models. Let the free market reign. The consumers and producers react in real time to the market conditions as they unfold. The government is like a glacier in pace and level of destruction on the market landscape. So much for the positive intervention of government there are plenty of dairy farms closing despite all of its actions. As much as this loony progressive movement has completely embraced atheism in all its aspects I declare and demand that this government embrace this form of secularism when it comes to its dealings with businesses. No sacred cows. Nobody gets any special treatment. Everybody gets treated the same.

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- capelady
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:20pm
  Ah, but the only capitalism that the progressives embrace is CRONY capitalism… aka Fascism!
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:07am
  If the government got totally out of price setting, I’d be happy. If that means milk prices go up, so be it. I was a Mary Kay consultant for a while (I moved to Bermuda, where they didn’t allow self employment of government people or dependents). The whole idea of making a profit means that you take what you buy the product at, and try to sell it at a price that pays all your business expenses and gives you enough to buy a replacement. I know it’s not that simple with milk, but the principle is about the same. You sell your milk at enough that it pays the cost of being a dairy farmer. Otherwise, there’s no use being in the business. I think that’s what government is there for…to support the ones who have enough money to donate to their campaign and lobby for changes that help THEM, not the little guy. If the little guy is driven out of business, all the better. If things were actually a free market, everything would cost differently in different places.
  
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legendarytwo
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:14pm
Let those Obama voters get a dose of that 7 dollar a gallon milk. I bought 18 chocolate bars at Sam’s for $17.87. Soon we will finally see those ignorant people getting a dose of the end result of the policies of the crooks they vote for. I know it’s not just Dems, but most Dems are pure evil and their leaders are baffoons top to bottom.

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- CatB
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:16pm
  Amen … it is ALREADY $7.00 a gallon .. but the taxpayers are subsidizing it for the rest. Let the market set the price and stop having the government set prices.
  
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:08pm
I’m sick of the seven dollars a gallon for milk, fear mongering.
Demoncrats always use fear mongering to get what they want.

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- donsfirstwife
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:31pm
  What other things that are no good are in the farm bill. Progressives hide so much junk and payoffs in these bills and I doubt that the legislators really know what they are voting on, just like that affordable health care act..
  
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rwmccrory
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:55pm
is it really good to have the government to ever intervene in free markets? if stuff does go up won’t it eventually come down if people buy less. is life really so complicated that government has to adjust everything ? no rhetorical question. why is dairy farming no longer a career choice? the comp is gone

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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:02pm
  Members of the Cuban Communist Party can get two quarts of milk every week. All others drink water.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:03pm
  Milk will still cost what it cost today but the container will have a lot less milk in it.
  
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Topcat
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:47pm
Let me get this straight , we are talking about a Farm Bill , that has the ability to raise milk prices to $8.00 a gallon , but 80% of that bill involves food stamps legislation . So we cant fix the Farm part of the bill without arguing over the food stamp part of the bill , so we do nothing or just kick the problem down the road. If these politicians in both parties worked in my company I would fire them all for there incompetence . Fist off why do we have any regulation at all , from the government , that can affect any food prices to that extent . 90% of all farming in this country now , is run by big corporate farms ans dairies , so why do they need anything from the government. Here is my solution , separate the farm part of the bill from the food stamp part of the bill , now do away with the farm bill completely , get rid of all government interference . If milk goes to $8.00 a gallon so be it , it wont stay there very long if it happens at all because people wont buy milk at that price., and if those huge corporate dairies want to stay in business they will sell at a reasonable price or fail . The food stamp program is a whole different story , but I am sure the answer is not that complicated , as half the cost of the program , goes to people who dont need it or deserve it .

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 9:32pm
  Exactly. Government should stop spending money subsidizing milk and apply it to the deficit
  
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- HAL8728
  Posted on January 2, 2013 at 9:40am
  @TOPCAT
  Agree completely. Congress cannot seem to deal with one issue in a piece of legislation. They must always have “pork” in it. Let the free market determine the price of milk. Government subsides should be eliminated. Farmers should be allowed to sell their products anywhere at any price that will be paid by the consumer. Federal government needs to stop picking winners and losers.
  
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TJexcite
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:47pm
Nothing but traps to gain points on when you avoid them.
Laws that expire, tax cuts that expire, and regulations that have to be waved every term rather than changing that old laws that govern those regulations. Nothing but administrators, rubber stamps and cowards to change anything big.

Was there not an election and the people still complain about them. Well what 97% of the same people in now will be in for the next 2 years. At least this was a some what quiet lame duck with out any major changes on Christmas eve, well at least not public changes.

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Salamander
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:43pm
At least the Federal Government cannot print more cheese, like The Fed does with our money! Hmmm, I wonder what they do with all the cheese they buy to support the underlying price of milk? Maybe they store it at Fort Knox, which has plenty of room, now that all the gold is gone! If it’s cheddar, it’s probably yellow, so who would know the difference! Billets of cheese replace billets of gold!

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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:41pm
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if we could get our politicians to quit sucking hind tit, milk would be .50 cents a gallon……

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- Salamander
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:55pm
  I used to work on a farm, and I can tell you that a squirt of warm milk from hind tit was a delightful surprise! My Uncle could nail me from 15 feet away, so long as bossy didn’t kick him off his stool, or flick her fly-swatter in the way! The old girls were pretty ‘content’ and docile, or they were sent off to the hamburger or glue factory!
  
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- Cape_Lookout_RW_Extremist
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:09pm
  I hear ya Spank! We should stop their salary until they start fixing America again or march on Washington and physically throw them out.
  
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Salamander
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:37pm
So long as they drop milk from the school lunch program, I couldn’t care less! It would be a BIG motivator for new moms to breast-feed their little ones and if they do away with price supports altogether along with material farm regulations (includign the death tax), the market will find a way to adjust! Meanwhile, I’ll start putting Anise in my coffee instead of milk! I’m sure the transportation agencies will understand that without milk for my morning java, I had no choice but to turn to alcohol!

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Imprimatur
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:32pm
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- gyro
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:48pm
  I agree
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:52pm
  I concur
  
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BlasberryStrat
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:32pm
The ENTIRE farm program needs to be scrapped and re-written. All you “city people” that bust your hump in a factory for ‘token’ wages, just take a Sunday drive out in the “real farm country”. What you will see is a farmer standing beside his mail box bit–ing about “no income”, and behind him is a four story brand new home, brand new sheds / buildings, brand new tractors, brand new pickups (multiple), mini vans, Harley’s, boats, and camper(s). Oh…and another brand new four story home being built on the same land. **NOT ALL FARMERS ARE CROOKS! I’m not saying they are! But MANY search for and accept every “chip” and “subsidy” they can find, then come November, BRAG at the car dealership how they “Have to buy a new pickup to avoid taxes”! This is WHY they are building and buying – to avoid taxes because their income is too high! We have farmers in Nebraska that drive BMW’s and Porche’s to WALMART, and buy food with STAMPS! They “say” they don’t get any “subsidies” for fuel. They aren’t. What they’re getting is “CHIPS”, another word for “FREE GOV. MONEY BECAUSE THEY’RE A FARMER”! And when corn farmers are asked about Ethanol, they OPENLY state, “I won’t put that ‘s-it’ in ANY of MY vehicles”. The farming industry is nothing but a “home grown Mafia” – period! And for all you ‘poor’ farmers that are going to post back at this, PLEASE include a photo of YOUR “current” home and vehicles for all of us to see! And DON’T be posting an old pic

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- RED_JOHN
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:42pm
  My in-laws are “farmers” and everything you say is true….
  
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- Salamander
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:45pm
  I agree with the ‘scrapped’ part, but I’m not so sure about the ‘re-written’ part!
  
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- pagraywolf
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:09pm
  I have friends who have a small dairy farm and they are barely keeping ahead of the bills. Wife told me 2 days ago she may have to get a second job (both off the farm). Their car is a 90′s model and the truck is older yet. They live in a little house with no frills. I don’t disagree that there are farmers like you describe. Please don’t lump honest, hard working farmers with free-loaders that have land and crops/livestock.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:58pm
  Blas… do you farm? I know several farmers and most have full time jobs to support their families. My neighbor almost lost his whole place this year.
  
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- JediKnight
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:00am
  Where exactly is “farm country”? I’ve seen quite a few farms and not a single one looks like what you describe.
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:22am
  I don’t know where you live, Blas, but that certainly isn’t true of any of the farms where I live. Where I live it’s more like the Kent farm from Smallville. They’re lucky if they can keep the one maybe two old broken down tractors they have running. The same goes for the pickup truck they may have. The one good vehicle they might have would be the car the wife uses. None of them have brand new homes and only one has a new barn. The only reason they even have the new barn is because the storm that hit the east coast in July wrecked the old one and their homeowner insurance paid for the new one.
  
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- SidneyDave
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:30am
  Where do you live that people build 4 story homes in the county? Please post a picture of your house.
  
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possom
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:24pm
Friggin politician’s just need to stop! And I mean all of them!

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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:52pm
  Some people call other people crazy for saying printing money will create inflation. Well the government is so involved in the economy it providing price supports for agricultural products. Between printing & price supports who knows the real price of milk.
  
  Also the damnable government use “CHAIN CPI”, & doesn’t include food & energy into the CPI calculations. that is much lying. they are not lying about the statistics. They are lying about the premises they build the statistics with. Bunch of blind mullets they are.
  
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zpritchard
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:21pm
I don’t want to pay $7 for a gallon of milk but if getting rid of subsidies then so be it. We have to start somewhere and if this is it, then let’s do it. But no one in Congress is willing to do it. I doubt that we will go over the fiscal or milk cliff even though that is what needs to happen.

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- CatB
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:18pm
  You are already paying MORE than $7.00 if you are a taxpayer .. you are subsidizing low prices for others who pay NO TAXES.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:17pm
One more way for politicians to foul up the economy. This holdover from the Roosevelt administration should have been buried with that socialist.

A good reason why for every law passed one should be repealed.

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- 1956
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 9:50pm
  How about repealing 10… just for good measure.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:16pm
If this keeps up ,I wont be taking my coffee that’s like my ‘Blond and Sweet’ wife.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:45pm
  I’m searching for a locally produced coffee substitute caffeine replacement. As the US$ sinks towards parity with third world currencies, we will not be able to afford coffee.
  
  In round numbers, I’m paying $15/33 oz = $5/11 oz ≈ 50¢/oz for generic grocery store bean.
  
  μολων λαβέ molṑn labé ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE “From my cold, dead hands” works for me.
  
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- zman173rd
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:31pm
  Strong and black. Thats the way I like it. Once you go black you’ll never go back. But you have to have the right grind. Don’t take the off the shelf stuff. taste it at it’s source first, one bean at a time. Then take it home and grind it to your satisfaction. Some grind it down to the point where it’s fine, fine. Then some like it rough, course like, so when you taste it, it comes back and slaps you right in the face like WAKE UP MAN! Of course, variety is the spice of life, so try it different ways. As a note, I’ve been to Brazil (Brasil) and it’s special down there. Nothing like it. Kind of a blend of aromatics and softnight breezes with that “punch in the gut gimme some more!” just when you think you’ve had enough. Life is short, so enjoy it with whipped cream and some caramel. :)
  
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2smart4libs
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:14pm
I know libs hava short attention span but does the term DAIRY BUYOUT mean anything to anyone here??? Remember when we bought out dairies and made them NEVER produce milk again??? Still think thats a good idea???

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- 65Mustang
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:32pm
  I remember it well, I think there is only one dairy farm left in the county I live in, at one time there were communities built around the dairy farms.
  
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matamoros
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:12pm
the takers won’t have to worry about this; they have their EBT cards. Sometime in the near future, the only people you will see in the grocery store, who can afford these high priced foods (eg: steaks & and now milk) are going to be the takers, because we had the audacity to pay our own way!

With all their EBT cards, cell phones, WIC, Section 22 Housing, electrical subsidies, disabilities, and Lord knows what else, soon only they will be able to afford to drive to their local grocery store, in their brand new SUVs, and purchase the “high-end” foods. There will be a day when only they will be able to eat-out, go to the movies, and participate in other such family activities, because we’re (the middle class) going to be too busy paying their way.

Essentially, there will be a major transfer of wealth from the middle class to the f**king poor. And it will be us who are going to be driven to the poor house. It will be us who will have to clip the coupons, drive the small efficient cars, work the gardens, forgo the family outings, forgo the vacations, and … You get the picture?

It’s happening right now.

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- turbo
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:26pm
  The illegal mexican’s will be looking forward to receiving their IRS check in February for on average around $14,000, thanks to their EITC on their anchor babies and all the other children that claim, and that the IRS, under orders from Obama, refuse to investigate.
  
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- Salamander
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:52pm
  You know, IRS writing checks is a violation of the most basic principle of cash control: namely, the separation of receivables and payables; the dept that takes in the money doesn’t disburse it! We need to break up IRS and make TWO agencies, one to collect taxes and the other to disburse the welfare! Then, once we see how much more we are disbursing than we are collecting, we can cut off the spigot! If the government has the power to tax, then it shouldn’t have the power to disburse–at least not back to the citizens from which it taxes! It may need to buy pencils, although with Congressional salaries, they should bring their own damn pencil to work! But, it certainly does NOT need to DECIDE FROM WHICH CITIZENS it will disenfranchise SO THAT it can DECIDE TO WHICH CITIZENS (and non-citizens) it will enfranchise! You can’t put BOTH responsibilities in the same organization! That is the VERY REASON WE HAVE a private sector and a government! Duh!
  
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kindling
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:12pm
We have goats and the milk tastes SO GOOD. We don’t have bucks around the does so the milk tastes just like fresh raw cow’s milk but sweeter and creamier. My kids love it and playing with the baby goats is an extra bonus.

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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:44pm
  We do too. Saw the prices of food coming. Goat milk is better for you. Takes less room to raise a goat than a cow. And talking to a goat is just like talking to a polititian. There is nothing but nothing behind those eyes.
  
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- zman173rd
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:43pm
  You just made me decide to buy goats from the neighbor. We have two now but are old and never milked, just used for weeds and such. The neighbors gave us occasional milk, we’d swap for eggs, (uh oh, here come the freekin feds) so it’s a good relationship but i should rely more on our resources than someone elses. And YES, just like fresh milk, but since it’s unpasturized you need to use in a week or less. And for those who’re thinking about it; once you start to milk you can NEVER stop. Up to a quart a day i believe so It’s good for families.
  
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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:12pm
First Milk… then Gasoline.. prices will go up and up and up. Got Food Storage?

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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:40pm
  I have already quit drinking gasoline. Now its milk too.lol
  
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- zman173rd
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 7:06pm
  Been buying evaporated milk for a while. When we were kids that’s all we had for cereal. Half canned milk and half water did the trick. I remember when moma caught me drinking from the can. My ear still rings.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:03pm
I only buy Organic processed milk. Costs about $5.75 per gal. Regular milk is so full of hormones and steroids that it will not even curdle. I guess the really good milk will be too expensive for even a Monk.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:11pm
  Hi MONK, I can see the price for that. But, with even more government meddling it will likely go up to $14 a gallon. You know, those good intentions that dems keep getting the credit for attempting.
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:20pm
  Oh my, so many presumptions. Processed organic milk, isn’t that oxymoronic? The a$$ociation of steroid hormones and curdling is also odd. Raw milk out of a cow is also full of hormones and cheese makers add rennet to curdle it faster, though home made clabber and yogurt will curdle without help. I don’t think DaMunk knows of what he writes, only of what heshit has read.
  
  μολων λαβέ molṑn labé ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE “From my cold, dead hands” works for me.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:27pm
  Monk & RJJ… beware of TimeBomb…
  see our back and forth on the Lindsey Graham… Went toe to toe big time…
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:28pm
  Gentlemen I think we’ll have hyperinflation no matter what the clowns in congress does or doesn’t do. As you know we have too much debt and we’ll reach a breaking point,sooner rather than later I’m afraid.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:33pm
  @DougHuffman
  
  I know what I have seen and what I have tasted. You are going to regret your words.
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 8:52pm
  Monk. If you buy your milk from a local farm your price should not go up that much. “Organic” food is over priced. I’d recommend buying from a local farmer who you know how he handles his animals. I would not worry about labels just source.
  
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- operagost
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:24pm
  Retail milk does not curdle because it’s pasteurized, not because of supposed hormones or other contaminants. Your “organic” milk is probably not pasteurized, which is fine as long as you consume it within a very few days and keep it properly refrigerated.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on December 30, 2012 at 5:54pm
Hmm, ten minutes up and no comments on how good is this taste of the bitter fiscal-cliff pill.

Better now, bitter though it may be, than at the point of Obama’s Chinese masters’ bayonet-sword-pen is mightier.

μολων λαβέ molṑn labé ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE “From my cold, dead hands” works for me.

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- SUNTZU
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:01pm
  Why worry
  food stamps cover milk.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 6:57pm
  @SUNTZU so does theft.
  We raise our own nubians, cut and butcher the males ( what needs to happen to polititians) milk the nannies, have bee hives for the honey, vegies from a large garden, fruit trees, freeze, can & dehydrate fish in stock pond and trap wild hogs. And a good 500 yd. Kill zone. ‘LET-R-RIP’
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:35pm
  DUBLINTHEWAGONS
  Sounds like you live in a good country.
  Looking for a good old vet. to help secure.
  I’m weened.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 30, 2012 at 7:49pm
  Dublin
  Dude, you realize like 5% of peeps know what you reference when you speak about nubians, right? Racist goat milker you… Good for you, sounds like a good set up-
  
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