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Girl Spits on Israeli Arab Politician and PLO Adviser After he Refuses to Call Fogel Family Killers, Terrorists

Dec. 31, 2012 1:05pm Sharona Schwartz

A sixteen-year-old girl spat on Israeli Arab Member of Knesset (MK) Ahmed Tibi after the politician, who was once an adviser to the late PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat, prompted outrage in a speech to college students Sunday.

The girl is circled in the above photo, which was published Monday by the Israeli website Ynet. Other students singing Israel’s national anthem Hatikvah are heard in the background.

Ynet reports that the trouble began when Tibi participated in a heated debate with right-wing MK Arieh Eldad at Bar-Ilan University near Tel Aviv.

In an edited video of the debate posted by Israel National News, Tibi accused the students of killing Palestinian children. Most Israelis attend college only after serving between two and three years in the army. What also angered the audience: Tibi’s refusal to call the 2011 murder of the Fogel family “terrorism.” He said:

I come with clean hands. My hands are bloody with the blood of Jewish children whom I birthed and some of you killed Arab children! Some of you killed Arab children! You should be ashamed! You should be ashamed! […] Some of you are proud that you killed Palestinian children. You should be ashamed! And that is the moral difference between me and you. There is a large moral difference between a person who brings life into the world and a person who calls for death. You can for death, hatred, and killing. I am proud of the life that I brought and I despise the world view that supports the killing of children and targeting of civilians because of the fact that they are Palestinians.

The students were likely also angered by fresh memories of the November hostilities with Gaza, in which Hamas and other terrorists targeted Israeli civilians in southern Israel with more than 1,500 rockets aimed at schools and homes. In a second video posted by Israel National News, here was another exchange with the moderator:

MODERATOR: Are you willing to tell me that there’s a certain act, even for the liberation from occupation, which is amoral, inhuman, and that you denounce and see as an act of terror?

TIBI: So I will take you back to what I said about the terror attack at Itamar when children were killed. From the Knesset podium […] I said that whoever did this thing, when he sees children and shoots and kills them, he thinks he is a hero, he is a coward. And therefore this act is deserving of … [INTERRUPTED] [TO AUDIENCE HE SAYS] Isn’t there a psychiatrist in this room? Stop it. And therefore I reject this act on a moral and political basis.

MODERATOR: Your command of Hebrew is much better than to say ‘I reject.’ Terror or not? Terrorist or not?

TIBI: since I know Hebrew, I chose my own words. And my words are clear. I denounced harm caused to Jewish civilians, or Israelis in general. […] There is a difference between expressing sorrow and denouncing.

MK Aryeh Eldad, who also participated in the debate, told the screaming students:

You want Dr. Tibi to say things that he cannot say, because he supports the Arab terror. What do you want from him. Do you want him to lie? [Applause]

Two Palestinian teenagers from a village near Itamar in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) confessed to murdering the Fogel family in 2011, stabbing to death parents Ruti and Ehud and three of their children – Yoav, 11, Elad, 4 and three-month-old Hadas whose throat was slashed while she was in her crib.

The perpetrators were 18 and 19-year-old cousins, now serving five life sentences. They told investigators they carried out their attack on a whim – deciding to do it only two days earlier.

Ynet reports that guards had to escort Tibi off campus due to the ruckus and that several students yelled at Tibi: “You’re a child murderer, go to Gaza, go to Syria. That’s the place for you.”

Several students were whisked out of the hall. There was an unconfirmed report that a student also spilled water on the politician, but that is not seen in any of the videos posted.

Speaker of the Knesset Reuven Rivlin said Monday: “I condemn any attack on an elected representative and attempt to disrupt his ability to fulfill his mission. In a conflicted country like this we must firmly defend the right to a proper democratic debate.”

Watch the Ynet video of the spitting and the debate from Israel National News:

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Comments (33)

mopman64
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:49am
Where is The_Jerk? I am in the mood for some Jew hate on New Years Day. Come on Jerk don’t let us down.

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reportanddeport
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:22pm
She spat on him, but napalming him would have been a better choice. Yes, Israelis are stupid, for putting this puke in their government, but so are Americans for putting DEMOCRATS in the government. Hating and weakening your own country makes no sense, whether you are an Israeli or an American.

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Excomunicatedmarine
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:17pm
More “monkey talk” kinda like not my president this morning. “I don’t like it, but it is OK to kill kids !”
Give my mind a break !

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SciPro
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:14pm
Well, good for her, point made. My mother told me never to spit, it was a filthy habit, obviously, this women was not my mother .. heh heh .. Happy New Years to all wandering these sites …

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chips1
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:44pm
The purpose of her question and the questions asked of our politicians is NOT to get an answer as much as it is to see what side they are on. Their non-answers say more than their words. Her point was well made. WIN.

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Steel Monkey
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:30pm
Turn it into a parking lot and give it back to them. They only want, will not give anything! We keep listening to this Palistinian crap, we will have to give the stolen lands back to the Indians. Hattred and nothing more!

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Cavallo
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:29pm
This is the attitude of many of the westernized Muslims as well. They’ll make statements like “It was horrible, but you must understand.” They desire sympathy for individuals who would cut the throat of a 3 month old baby. This is the monstrous philosophy in which you must contend. This is also something that leftists do not comprehend. They think by making deals with devils that have no problems slashing the throat of an infant that they can control them with their fascist mechanisms. They have no idea of the disgusting barbaric beast they have crawled in bed with.

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kryptonite
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:17pm
When Satan rebelled against God, he was booted out of heaven – for good reason. When are we freedom-loving people going to learn that you do NOT sleep with the enemy? This (political) terrorist should never have been allowed to become a member of the Knesset. He has been given a voice to promote jihad against Israel from one of the highest offices in the country. That is sheer lunacy.

Same goes for us. Nobody with known ties to terrorists should be given political legitimacy. America would never allow a Nazi in office, yet commies and Islamists have been elected to govt positions. If we had followed God’s example, Hussein would have been blocked from holding a Senate seat from the very beginning, period. We freedom-lovers have turned away from God, and as a result we have become utter fools.

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- chips1
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:48pm
  America IS Heaven and Obama and his minions will be cast out again.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:56pm
  I love your optimism, CHIPS. What makes you so sure? The Bible? I wish I could say “amen” to your comment, but like I’ve said before, I’m a realist.
  
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Gonzo
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:00pm
That guy has a future in the Obama administration if he wants it.

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- skippy6
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:50pm
  LOL good one!!!! You must have been on vacation….
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:01pm
  @GONZO
  Why would he? Obama aids and abets the “Palestinian cause.” These two are buds working for the same cause, i.e., the destruction of Israel.
  
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:55pm
I spit in your general direction.

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COFemale
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:48pm
Should not that say Palestinian Arab Politician rather than Israeli Arab Politician? There is no such thing as an Israeli Arab. However, there are such things as Palestinian Arabs living in Israel.

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:09pm
  @COFEMALE
  
  I would definitely say he is not pro Israel. I don’t know if you saw what happened to that family, but it was horrible. Cold blooded murder of an innocent family. Young kids murdered, mom and dad murdered. Bad as anything there is.
  
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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:19pm
  COFE, there absolutely ARE Israeli Arabs, I’m a little confused by your statement…Israel is such an amazingly free and open country that they actually allow people of Arab decent to gain citizenship. They are far more generous than I would be.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:51pm
  @USEDCZARSALESMAN
  …they actually allow people of Arab decent to gain citizenship.
  —
  A think COFEMALE’s point was that these people don’t think of themselves as “citizens of Arab descent.” They consider themselves PALESTINIANS. It would be like Obama claiming he was Kenyan, even though he was born here. Eventually this lunacy will be Israel’s downfall — as well as ours.
  
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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:42pm
  If that is the case, then I stand corrected (well, not really “corrected” as much as my assumption was false)…no worries, it happens from time to time. Happy New Years!
  
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skippy6
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:43pm
Well it seems like they have freedom of speech in Tel Aviv… I think most of you know what would have happened if it were in the so called peaceful and free Palestine?

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- RaydocX
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:01pm
  Not to mention the supposedly peaceful and free US, where security ‘thugs’ are now free to impede citizens’ progress to confront their politicians…
  
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LeadNotFollow
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:41pm
The Fogel Family murders were committed by terrorists. Their Government should call a spade a spade.
Maybe we should hock up a few loogies at our useless evil politicians, to get their attention.

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- twistin
  Posted on January 1, 2013 at 1:35pm
  But….that would be racist, and probably assault with a deadly weapon over here.
  
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Daveed
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:30pm
Killing the Fogel’s was terrorism as it was spawned by hatred indoctrinated from birth. It was not a human deed, it was a deed of evil. That family and their children lives were precious as all children’s lives are precious. You either hate evil or hate good, you can not have two masters as you will only love one and despise the other. Choose this day whom and what you will serve. Will you serve the cause of peace or a life of constant violence for your children. If you choose violence then you are incapable of loving your children.

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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:25pm
Israel’s gov’t is a mess.

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- termyt
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:39pm
  Far better than ours. We sit here pretending nothing is wrong. Both sides are fine, just a little different in their views of a strong Republic. Like blind sheep. At least Isreali students seem to realize the difference between freedom and tyranny. We vote tyranny and call it freedom.
  
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- Shasta
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:40pm
  Like we can talk.
  
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RoDogg
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:21pm
I wish the same Americans that don’t have a clue about our economy and political corruption etc…

Would see/understand the hate brewing around the world right now!

To me … so many people not paying attention … makes it that much more dire!

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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:11pm
She has guts, I will admit that.

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IndyGuy
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:42pm
She needs to aim that spit at Obama…

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- Mirimichi
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:38pm
  You betcha’.
  
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- chucksue351
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:06pm
  how about a shoe
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:05pm
  Ever wondered why Hussein will not set foot in Israel?
  
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