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Alleged Occupy Activist & Pregnant Girlfriend Busted in NYC With Weapons & a Bomb, Sources Say

Dec. 31, 2012 10:45am Billy Hallowell

Morgan Gliedman (Photo Credit: Facebook)

An alleged Occupy Wall Street activist and his pregnant girlfriend were purportedly caught with a stash of weapons in their Greenwich Village apartment.

Aaron Greene, 31, and his nine-months pregnant girlfriend, Morgan Gliedman, 27, were apparently found to have these elements in addition to bomb-making instructions, a stack of papers with a cover sheet entitled, “The Terrorist Encyclopedia,” and other weapons according to sources speaking with The New York Post.

Some of Greene’s associates have purportedly called his views “extreme.” Police made the discoveries and subsequent arrests when they went to the couple’s home over the weekend to look for Gliedman who is wanted for purported credit-card theft. The Post has more about the bizarre alleged findings:

A detective discovered a plastic container with seven grams of a white chemical powder called HMTD, which is so powerful, cops evacuated several nearby buildings.

Police also found a flare launcher, which is a commercial replica of a grenade launcher; a modified 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun; ammo; and nine high-capacity rifle magazines, the sources said.

Cops also allegedly uncovered papers about creating homemade booby traps, improvised submachine guns, and various handwritten notebooks containing chemical formulas.

According to the Associated Press, Gliedman is awaiting her court appearance; Greene was held without bail after a court appearance on Sunday. Both were charged with criminal possession of a weapon.

Rather than coming from underprivileged backgrounds, the Post claims that the two have had quite the opposite experience. Gliedman grew up in a prominent part of New York City and her father is a well-known doctor. And Greene attended Harvard University and did his graduate work at the school’s Kennedy School of Government.

Despite these backgrounds, Greene allegedly had five prior run-ins with police and has been charged with assault and weapons possession in the past.

Update: Occupy Wall Street has responded to claims that Greene is a part of the movement. Earlier today, TheBlaze spoke with a representative who pointed to a press release that attempts to debunk his connection to Occupy. It reads, in part:

Since its beginnings in September 2011, Occupy Wall Street has vigorously used its Constitutional rights to protest Wall Street greed, and is firmly committed to non-violence. Nonetheless, Occupy has been subjected to extensive surveillance and repression, and the NYPD takes every opportunity to link OWS to crime.

There is nothing in the news stories to support a link between OWS and the individual arrested; his name is unfamiliar to many OWS activists. A very large number of people came through Zuccotti Park, and there are countless Occupy-related groups nationwide, so it is very difficult to ascertain if one person participated in anything related to OWS.

We urge members of the media to refrain from spreading rumors and misinformation.

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Knot4u2no
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:54am
Entirely consistent with the BRACE Character Profile of the Occupiers of the Occupy Wall Street Movement (OWSM). Excerpts: This combination suggests very strong characteristics related to power and control, a willingness to violate the rights of others in order to accomplish goals and objectives, and an inflexibility and narrow minded range of interests….This suggests intentional, callous, proactive rather than defensive use of force and violence, calculated provocations, an active seeking of confrontation, and an intentional disregard for the rights and property of others.

http://www.braceanalysis.com/downloads/12.26.11%20OWSM%20BRACE%20Character%20Profile%20REPORT.pdf

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- Trigus
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:53pm
  Did these two study under Bill Ayers.
  
  “Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Department headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and the Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days.” written by Ayers
  
  Do we see a connection?
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:54pm
  @walkabout
  
  “These are the same trash as the Red Army Faction, the Red Brigades & the Bader-Meinhoff gang.”
  
  They may be, but maybe not.
  
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- Proverbs17-12NLT
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:29pm
  and democraps want to ban assault rifles
  
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- JRook
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:02pm
  If “criminal possession of a weapon” means unregistered then by all means we should start going door to door until all guns are registered and a complete profile of the owner is obtained. Until those you disagree with actually commit a crime, they hold the same second amendment rights as everyone else. And I’ confident that they are not the only holders of unregistered guns on the block, let along the neighborhood, city, state or country. .
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 3:44pm
  Yes JCROOK..we’ll go door to door..like a good bunch of Bolsheviks…bringing out those who oppose the purge and sending them to gulags. Da Tovarich?
  
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- gastroville
  Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:03pm
  I don’t think they did anything wrong. they practiced their 2nd amendment right.
  
  a “modified” mossberg ? what ? a security model with an extended mag?
  
  a few “high capacity” mags that are completely legal in most states and most of ny if they are old enough? oh – but not legal in the people’s paradise of NYC.
  
  a few grams of a simple chemical that can be used in a child’s cap gun ( if those are not yet illegal in this country) check out you tube for examples of using this hymn… and the morons cleared several buildings… they are imbeciles. probably just reloading primers.
  
  regardless of their politics I defend their right to bear arms and protect themselves.
  
  btw most of the booby trap manuals are issued to our soldiers…. you can AND SHOULD buy theme at any surplus store, even amazon.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 2, 2013 at 10:40am
  It’s always these hateful, bigoted, racist Tea Party gun nuts. Oh wait…they were OWS? They were radical leftists? But…they’re “the best of us”, they’re not violent. Nothing to see here, make this story disappear.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 2, 2013 at 10:43am
  Rookie, several states have registration, several states do not. Registration has no effect on crime reduction. I will not register mine, and I would love for you to come try to force me. Registration leads to confiscation every time.
  
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lordjosh
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:52am
Man, all you people love freedom, you say. Innocent till proven guilty, you say. Right to bear arms, you say. Nothin’ but tyrannical bully, hyprocrites, I say.

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:00pm
  Topic is weapons and a bomb says the headline.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:10pm
  You define arms how you want. Thats your opinion and you have the right to it. I see no facts that that these to committed a crime. Do you?
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:15pm
  Both were charged with criminal possession of a weapon.
  
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- Female
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:22pm
  Future residents of the white house?
  
  Somebody ratted them out. probably her dad and daddy’s accountant when they saw the credit card bill’s purchases. Reported it stolen….or just a convenient excuse to raid their apartment. NO guns allowed in NYC…..Priviledge, geez
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:25pm
  @1776
  What is the factual difference between possessing a weapon and “criminal” possession of a weapon?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:25pm
  Josh
  
  “in addition to bomb-making instructions, a stack of papers with a cover sheet entitled, “The Terrorist Encyclopedia”
  
  I read you past 10 comments to try to get a sense where you are coming from. From a 1st amendment I see no problem with “The Terrorist Encyclopedia”. Nor would I see a problem if they had the Anarchist Cookbook or schematics needed to print a gun.
  
  I do have a problem with the HMTD. At the very least they had it in an apartment, when different storage was necessary. If storing HTMD at an apartment does not matter, then I should be able industrial chemicals on any domicile (If you & your get harmed my bad). I think you would feel differently if you have kids & lived next to a neighbor that had chemicals like these
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:31pm
  @ walkabout
  
  Your opinions about explosives notwithstanding, what facts have you seen that support the opinion that these two were in “criminal” possession of a weapon?
  
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- Female
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:32pm
  Just research for a book?
  
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- BasketFullOfPuppies
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:04pm
  Josh, you need to rethink your argument. First off, there is legal and illegal. While many of us might believe the gun laws of NYC are ill-advised and stupid, we do not advocate BREAKING the law. We advocate CHANGING it.
  
  The fact that they were in possession of unlicensed weapons, makes it a crime in NYC.
  
  Next up, you seem to have completely missed the part about HMTD. I don’t think you can even get a permit ANYWHERE, to possess that stuff since it is inherently unstable and not used anymore. BTW, it WAS used as an initiator… that means to set off an even bigger bomb that might not be so easy to get going.
  
  I live in Oklahoma, where we are quite familiar with ammonium nitrate explosives. Fertilizer can grow your food, or it can take down a federal building. Open your eyes and look at the available facts, man! I could care less if they had a whole library of reading material about bomb making. But, if I find you in the same room with that library AND the chemicals used in them, WTH is a thinking person supposed to believe?
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:14pm
  Josh: You said: “What is the factual difference between possessing a weapon and “criminal” possession of a weapon?”
  
  There is nothing wrong in the possessing of a weapon if you are not a criminal to begin with. But criminal possession of a weapon is the difference. HMDT is illegal to possess because it is bomb making supplies. Even law-abiding citizens cannot possess such supplies. AND the police were investigating him for credit card theft. Credit cards are small so if the cops had a search warrant they could look into small places and that’s probably where they found the HMDT. The other weapons, depending on how the “modified 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun” was modified, the literature and the high capacity magazines I have no problem with providing he’s not a felon already.
  
  I don’t have double standards on owning guns. There’s people I know that I don’t like and can’t stand to talk to but they have the Right to own weapons as long as they aren’t felons, or in any other way prevented from owning weapons. Just because I don’t like them doesn’t mean that I don’t support their Right to own weapons.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:33pm
  @josh
  Should these people be able to possess bombs? So if they didn’t possess the explosive material and NY didn’t have the oppressive anti gun laws they have then these two would not have been arrested. Figure it out idiot.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:44pm
  Let’s see
  
  “modified 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun “illegal”
  
  “nine high-capacity rifle magazines” Illegal in NYC.
  
  I don’t agree with NY\C laws. However there is a big difference about what you can infer they were trying to do & what someone from out of state who tries to check in his CCW at the door of a tourists site.
  
  I won’t be swayed. These are the same trash as the Red Army Faction, the Red Brigades & the Bader-Meinhoff gang.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:48pm
  @Basket and Gorp
  
  The facts are, (if we believe what the media is reporting what the cops are reporting…..)They were in possession of a shotgun, HMTD, a flare launcher, and literature.
  The opinions are that the act of possessing these, or any one of these, is “criminal”.
  How do you suppose I would be subject to your, or anyone else, opinions?
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:06pm
  @ walkabout
  “I don’t agree with NY\C laws.”
  But you do!
  “I do have a problem with the HMTD”
  You agree with them to the extent that they ban what you believe should be. You just don’t like it when you disagree with what is being banned. You have no problem declaring to your neihbor’s that they can’t possess object A, but will cry foul when someone declares to you that you may not possess object B. Hypocracy, with all due respect. I am not faulting anyone for their opinions, only there willingness to violently oppose their beliefs on others.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:17pm
  “They were in possession of a shotgun.”
  
  No they were in possession of a modified shotgun.
  
  Personally I think that shotguns should be able to be modified, but that is not current law.
  
  Some stupid judge back in the 1920s or 1930s ruled that sawed off shotguns we not legal because there were not used during WW1. Therefore they were not weaponry a militia would use. The m0r0n judge never heard of “trench brooms” being used in WW1.
  ***
  If you think HTMD is not dangerous, then you should have no problem if I stood next to you with a knapsack full of TATP
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 2:26pm
  @walkabout
  
  Under that judges logic, possessing HMTD is completly legal and constitutional!
  How does the opinion of a lawyer in a black dress, who probably isn’t even alive at this point, matter at all, anywhere?
  
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- Jack Zedee
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 4:50pm
  Lord Josh , these lefty types are the ones who do real killings and similar then the decent law abiding gun owners pay for their lefty political statements ( bombing something or shooting someone )
  the head of the anuti gun lobby here was caught with bullets that matched those found at shootings of police stations around Sydney Australia , seem her and her lesbian lovers decided to make gun owners look bad and shoot up police stations , she returned to the USA to avoid charges when ID’d by video camera
  
  keep her there will ya’s ?? oh thats right she’s now working for obama ..
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:48pm
  LadyJosh
  Hi-cap mags. You cannot have hi-cap mags in NYC. Ax Bloomturd while you have a black market 20 oz latte.
  
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Metallicat
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:52am
while the radical left is building bombs,they want to disarm law abiding citizens of guns.and those who refuse to give up their second amendment rights will be deemed terrorists,without ever firing a shot or building a bomb. All they were charged with is criminal possession of a weapon? For a illegally modified( sawed off) shotgun? or was it the high capacity mags? no charges for bomb manufacture? they are going easy on these two and they will walk with a slap on the wrist, while the MSM paints all legal gun owners as terrorists. America has truly degenerated into Bizzarro world.

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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:03pm
  We celebrate the arrest of these two when I have heard no evidence of an actual crime. But we’ll stand strong when they try to take our guns, right? Right.
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:11pm
  @lordjosh
  
  Crimes are stated in the story. Denial is not a course of action. Neither is hope a course of action.
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:17pm
  @lordjosh
  
  Both were charged with criminal possession of a weapon.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:23pm
  @1776
  
  “Both were charged with criminal possession of a weapon”. “The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed” Sorry, but the two don’t jive. What is the factual difference between possessing a weapon and “criminally” possessing a weapon.
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:37pm
  @Josh
  
  Maybe you should go fight their courtcase for them since you seem to think you have a point here that no one else can see. It is criminal to possess weapons in NYC. If you don’t like it, please ask the NYC Police Department to explain it to you. Good Day!
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:45pm
  And as long as you blindly support it, tyranny will reign! Sad day.
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 1:13pm
  @JOSH
  
  I am having a very good day. I am not in jail on a weapons charge. And if you are in jail on a weapons charge, then you are having a bad day. See the difference? What were they going to do with that stuff? Something peaceful with modified 12ga and bomb materials? You need to fight for gun rights. Not OWS rights. The 60s are over. Quit living in the past. Remember you must grow up. Put some of this fire you have under Obama, Pelosi, Reid and Feinstein. They are the ones that are working on taking away our American blood earned rights.
  
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ares338
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:40am
Bwaaaahahahaha…….I love it! I love peaceful OWSER protesters don’t you? It’s all the fault of those Bible thumping, gun hoarding Republican war mangers. I hope they put him in jail with a 7 ft. tall drug dealer named Bubba and her in with a hairy armed Lesbian.

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Ash_Kiker
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:37am
Their college professor must have been Bill Ayers

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Owt_Raged
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:33am
Couldn’t happen. New York has very strict gun control laws. This is obviously a complete fairy tale, created by some extreme, constitution supporting, terrorist.
{end of sarcasm}

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:51am
  Mayor Bloomberg outlawed “Big Gulps” instead of the lawbreaker OWS.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:17pm
  That is what I was think. How does this happen in NYC?
  
  “Greene allegedly had five prior run-ins with police and has been charged with assault and weapons possession in the past”
  
  Five priors, some with weapons, & he was allowed to walk. Liberals looking out for liberals?
  
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bava
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:31am
I’ll just say what you idiots always say. It’s Obummer trying to discredit the military with a false flag operation and isn’t it time we ban pregnant girlfriends. Were are the pictures? No pictures, it didn’t happen. Union thugs and Happy New Year.

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cdn1979
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:28am
and their religion is…………….. come on now. you know what it is, but are afraid to say it.

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- lynnissmart
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:55am
  Hand raised! Jumping up and down in my chair! I know, I know!
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:01pm
  Spill it!
  
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GoodCook
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:26am
Typical of the extremeist Democrats and their true agenda of anarchy and dictitorial rule by extremist union thuggery.

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tbeachhead
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:24am
Now we need gun control…For all Occupy Wallstreet folks…Put the Tea Party in charge of it.

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:53am
  TEA party good. Occupy bad. Occams Razor.
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:58am
  I thought that all New York needed to do was outlaw 7-Eleven Big Gulps. because you all are so fat per Mayor Bloomberg. I didn’t realize that the OWS were so evil and needed to be outlawed too.
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:23am
Well, it looks like obama’s OCCUPY movement is alive and well – they put obama back in office for (at least) four more years – So, what’s their problem now?

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- Shasta
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:23pm
  What’s their problem? As long as there is a hard working family trying to hang on to some small portion of what they have earned, OBlamo and OWS will be their to do the noble thing.
  
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Ceefour
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:19am
The left (commies) just doesn’t have the level of intelligence to realize that these two are part of THEIR group…the group that wants to destroy everything. Yep..these people vote like They …democrat..and thats a fact,Jack

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G-WHIZ
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:12am
Naaaaa! Couldn’ be one of those nasty TERROR-CELLS that MSM/oBERRI won’t tell you about!!

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Zipit
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:12am
Aaron Greene, 31, and his nine-months pregnant girlfriend, Morgan Gliedman, 27!!!! AKA SEND THE METEORS, AND BLUEHEN!

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Cashpipe
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:11am
Her choice in boyfriend was simply to get back at daddy for only buying her a million dollar apartment and not one worth two. Enjoy prison future white supremacists. How soon before Mr Greene gets that swastika tattoo? 1st day? week? or month?

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:32am
  Too much reality. The liberals need to go back into “the Matrix” and play their video games, smoke the dope, freakout on spice, stay in “college” to avoid work, and of course dream of the communist states of America.
  
  Reality of prison life is something they are not ready for.
  
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PA_Iraq_Vet
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:06am
Flares? What was he going to do? Signal people he is a lowlife, POS idiot if they didn’t get it at first look?

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matt_c
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:04am
The peace-loving, gun-hating left at work!

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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:11am
  It’s for the people man….cough..cough.
  
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lynnissmart
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:04am
Oh aren’t they just a cute couple? NOT! I hope they rot in jail!

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do_in_it_2
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:01am
His nine-months pregnant girlfriend. Ban pregnant girl friends!
A detective discovered a plastic container. Ban Plastic!
Police also found a flare launcher. Ban Flares!
Cops also allegedly uncovered papers. Ban paper!

Its clear he was surrounded by things that influenced him.

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Chromo200
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:58am
They can be famous as Bill Ayers .. do their dirty work against society and be a well paid professor and friend of the present President.

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- Jackson843
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:33pm
  I was pondering that same thought. May the Prez needs more friends in the white house.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:58am
Obama’s children. This is what Bolsheviks do.

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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:24am
  @Cavallo
  
  Yeah, unlike that Right-wing Christian militia that was planning on killing a cop, and then attacking the ensuing funeral procession with bombs.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:41am
  Yeah, unlike that Right-wing Christian militia that was planning on killing a cop, and then attacking the ensuing funeral procession with bombs.
  ====================
  All good except they are not Christians, they are anarchists, just like these two in the story..
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:56am
  @Booger71
  
  Nice righhook to VanceUPPERCUT’s jaw!
  
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AvengerK
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:56am
Well look at that JZS/SENDTHEMETEORS…..your beloved Occupy Wall Street movement must make you so proud.

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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:28am
  @AvengerK
  
  You and the rest of the Protect the Borders brigade (who are curiously only concerned with one border in particular) oughta be proud of Shawna Forde, the leader of a Minuteman group who murdered a father and his 9 year old daughter in cold blood.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:16pm
  Gosh VANCYBOY..no where near as proud as you must be of the five occupy human debris that were caught before they blew up those bridges. Good intentions anyway..right? I’m sure they were quite the inspiration for the anarchists in this article too.
  It’s all for the 99% right?
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 8:50pm
  Lance
  Why aren’t the OWSers out right now? Why? Comfort level of basement versus a lil cold weather?
  
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yougottabekidding
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:55am
Thank God for those progressive lefties. These are the people that the left coddle and want to see in the fore front!
I wonder why I would want weapons! This time the police were successful, maybe next time it will fall to a citizen to save lives!

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1776freedomofspeech
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:52am
Liberals trying to destroy America. Harvard liberals at that.

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IndyGuy
Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:48am
But Pelosi,Reid and Obama all LOVE the Occupiers…

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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:53am
  Didn’t Obama say he supports them?
  
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- CatB
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:04am
  Yes the “peaceful” organic Occupy are good .. as opposed to those hate filled dangerous TEA Party members … who .. wait a minute .. have any of the TEA Party been caught with bombs? .. NO? I am so confused (sarcasm off)
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:11am
  They will be let go with a slap on the wrist,obama will intervene,because the police acted “stupidly”………
  
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- 1776freedomofspeech
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:15am
  TEA party good. Occupiers bad. Occams razor.
  
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- JimmyP
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:25am
  Don’t forget Mad-Maxine’s defense of the OWS violence.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on December 31, 2012 at 12:28pm
  Many of the commies & agitators come from rich families
  
  Castros live on a hacienda while growing up.
  Che’s father was a doctor or dentist.
  
  These 2 are no different. They are rich, spoiled brats, who are now too old to be put in juvie & so must pay the price.
  
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