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U.S. Senate Passes ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Bill, It’s Now up to The House to Pass or Reject The Deal

Dec. 31, 2012 9:09pm
Senate Republicans & The White House Reach a Fiscal Cliff Agreement: These Are The Details

A pleased-looking Sen. Mitch McConnell (Courtesy the New York Times)

With just hours to go before the Jan 1. deadline, the White House and Senate Republicans have reportedly reached a deal to avert the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

Republican leadership has already “okay’d” the deal and Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have allegedly signed off on it.

The deal would extend Bush-era tax cuts for family incomes below $450,000, according to the Associated Press.

“Income taxes go up for individuals making over $400K,” writes ABC News’ Jonathan Karl, “40% Estate tax kicks in at $5 million, indexed for inflation.”

“Tax rates on cap gains and dividends go to 20 percent — permanently,” he adds.

Another part of the deal involves delaying the automatic spending cuts that were scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1.

“Two month delay in the fiscal cliff spending cuts intended to give Congress more time for more comprehensive measure,” reports CBS News’ Mark Knoller.

However, it should be noted that postponing the automatic spending cuts (i.e. the “sequestration”) for two months means that they will come up again for debate just as we again turn our attention to the debt ceiling.

“The US debt will now remain unchanged until the next ‘deal’ since debt ceiling was just breached,” writers at Zero Hedge note.

Also, this from National Review’s Robert Costa:

Vice President Joe Biden headed to Capitol Hill late Monday to meet with Senate Democrats and sell the plan. After arriving at the Capitol, Biden and Sen. Reid ignored reporters’ shouted questions about whether a deal had been reached, Biden responding only, “Happy New Year.”

GOP leaders are reportedly confident that the deal with pass in both chambers by wide margins.

But there are some things to keep in mind. First, although it seems that leaders in both parties are on board with the deal, it’s unclear whether the “legislative language for [a] ‘cliff’ deal will be ready for Senate vote tonight or tomorrow,” Knoller notes.

Second, even if the bill ​is approved the Senate (which it probably will be), the House is another matter. Many GOP members object to the income, estate, and capital gains tax increases.

UPDATE(S): Is the deal in jeopardy?

Speaker Boehner is reportedly nervous about how he will frame the deal so as to sell it to his caucus. But at least Rep. Pelosi feels comfortable with the deal:

And a little something else to consider:

UPDATE II: Hmmmm …

You know what this means, right? It means that by attaching congressional pay to the bill, its architects have successfully put the fiscally-minded members of Congress in a position where a vote against the deal is a vote to increase their salaries. It’s a tricky situation, to say the least.

UPDATE III: The Senate will vote tonight on the deal as soon as the Congressional Budget Office is finished scoring it, said Sen. Harry Reid.

“Nobody in senate dem meeting said they would be against it,” writes NBC News’ Chuck Todd. “There’s no liberal revolt. Senate GOP may lose less than 10. Could get 80+ votes.”

We hope for the sake of congressional leaders that someone told the CBO to say on call:

And in case you were wondering about that whole “dairy cliff” thing:

Lastly:

If this is the case, and all that’s needed is for Boehner to get enough Republicans to vote on a House version of the Senate bill, then we have a deal. However, although the Speaker says the House will “honor its commitment to consider the [bill]” if it is passed by the Senate, he stressed that its passage is contingent upon a House review of the Senate deal.

“[U]ntil House reviews the Senate bill,” Knoller reports, “[Boehner] can’t say if House will accept it or return it with amendments.”

UPDATE IV: Well, it’s midnight and there has been no vote in the Senate. So there’s that. We’ve officially fallen off the so-called “fiscal cliff.”

And this from the AP’s Andrew Taylor:

According to Fox News’ Ed Henry, the CBO reports that the Senate deal contains $620 billion in new tax hikes and only $15 billion in spending cuts. Do the math on that one.

Where we stand now (12:45 a.m. ET): Congress missed the deadline (sending us over the “fiscal cliff” [for now]), new tax hikes grossly outweigh spending cuts, early reports indicate the Senate bill might not make it through the House, and they only managed to put off the “sequester” for two months.

UPDATE V: Legislatively speaking, we’re ​not over the “fiscal cliff” yet. You see, as BuzzFeed’s D.C. bureau chief John Stanton reminds us, because the Senate didn’t gavel out yesterday, it’s still ​technically Sunday for U.S. lawmakers. So,​technically, they haven’t missed the “cliff” deadline.

Fun, right?

Oh, also, for those of you who are still awake, reports are coming in that the Senate will vote on the bill at around 1:40 a.m. ET.

UPDATE VI: The Senate reconvenes for a vote.

The U.S. Senate at 1:58 a.m. ET passed by a vote of 89-8 the “American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012.” It’s now up to the House to review the bill and see if they agree with it.

Among the senators who voted against the bill were Sens. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Richard Shelby (R-Ala.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Mike Bennet (D-Colo.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.), and Tom Harkin (D-Ia.).

Surprisingly enough, Sens. Jeff Session (R-Ala.) and Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) voted in favor of the deal.

Final Thought – Considering the fact that U.S. lawmakers spent most of the day locked up in the Capitol Building haggling over the “American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012,” it’s almost certain none of them actually read the bill.

This is getting to be a really bad habit.

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  • noslave
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:46pm

    like heroin addicts getting their fix,our so called reps hooked on spending ,other peoples money, sold us out again? lotsa mo money? but hold your breath as far as spending cuts?hope fully someone will put them in re-hab when the debt ceiling comes around for their next spending fix??GOT TO SAY NO SOMETIME OR WE HIT A DEPRESSION??HIGH INTREEST,INFLATION,DOWN-GRADE,ETC??

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Re: GOP leaders are reportedly confident that the deal with pass in both chambers by wide margins.
      ***
      What did they do, lock the doors and lock up all the booze and noisemakers until it passes both houses?

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:02pm

      40% estates tax GOOD BYE republicans. Won’t miss you at all…

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    • sokogoose
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:04pm

      I would love to drink away my sorrows but unfortunately now I can’t afford it! Are they offering alcohol stamps now too?

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    • SendTheMeteors
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:11pm

      The Democrats caved.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:23pm

      TERM LIMITS……….please

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:26pm

      Don’t blame me, I supported Ron Paul.

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    • jhrusky
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:34pm

      @ oldguy49

      Yes, term limits as well as salaries equal to the median income of the US Working class, an end to lobbyists, a true flat tax with no loopholes. That’d be a great start.

      Of course, that will take WE THE PEOPLE actually getting off their arse and running for public office, school boards, town boards, city councils and more. Not sure many (if any) will do that, in which case, we will get the government we [then] deserve.

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    • turkey13
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:36pm

      Good lord, did I take my birth control pill.

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    • SUNTZU
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:38pm

      SENDTHEMEATEATORS
      We will all living in caves soon .

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    • SavvyCowboy
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:38pm

      How many times can these progressives/communists kick the can down the road? It’s time to replace every s.o.b. that votes in favor of this. Every one of them!

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    • SUNTZU
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:40pm

      Look at the wemans in the picture.
      The look of rejection.

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    • chicago76
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:49pm

      This was always intended as a back door way to raise taxes. When the repubs created and signed onto this monster they knew this would be how it would end up. The repubs caved to the dems when this legislation was created. They wanted a tax increase, but needed a reason to do it that would make it seem they were actually stopping a tax increase, so they could all come out heroes. A pox on both their houses.

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:33pm

      @Savycowboy,
      They WANT tokick the can down the road. They aren’t avoiding anything. This is their plan. It’s so late th epeople can’t see where we’re heading because we’ve been going in that direction for too long.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:42pm

      stop voting for these clowns

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    • Red Meat
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:44pm

      Traitors, the lot of them.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 12:05am

      jhrusky
      Yes, term limits as well as salaries equal to the median income of the US Working class, an end to lobbyists, a true flat tax with no loopholes

      I could go with Congressional salaries being a multiple of the median income of say 2X or 3X.
      Or maybe the median income if it were a part time job.

      a true flat tax with no deduction. I don’t want to call them loopholes. Congress voted for them in the 1st place, people like their deductions & calling them loopholes demonizes them. I think the best way is to phase some of them out like the mortgage deduction. It favors homeowners over renters. Although one could argue that if deduction weren’t allowed on rental properties as a business expense that renters would pay higher rents. Phase out the deduction in steps & phase in the flat tax in steps.

      I don’t know how you end lobbyists except to ignore them & not change the tax code every year. It is a 1st amendment issue. I see parallels between municipal codes & federal law. Some communities have scrapped their municipal codes & bought standards set of codes from private businesses that studied municipal codes & made a collection of the best of the best. I don’t see why Congress has to add so many laws each year. They are making laws for light bulbs, toilets, showers, car fuel economy, etc. But they have not passed a budget in 5 years. For the most part all it needs to do is pass a budget & audit federal agencies. It should be a part time job.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 12:11am

      make the tax code flat and end the Federal Reserve – That will eventually solve 90% of our problems

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    • Female
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 1:40am

      40% estate tax…oops no more counting inheritance ….so, contrary to scripture with says a good man leaves an inheritance for his children and children’s children…doesn’t mention taxes.

      Quick MST and PST: Die before 11:59 to leave it to the kids.

      After that, just spend it on them while alive and only pay sales tax?

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    • jmeister8
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 2:05am

      There comes a time when no amount spin or bamboozalery will work any more, reality will eventualy set in. No amount of money printing will fill the gaps created by these money drunk libs, dems, and rino’s. There comes a time when there’s no more excuses that work, and no more people to blame. There comes a time when no lie or truth for that matter will change anything. Financial collapse is assured. There will soon be a time when the dollar collapses and food will cost a buck but no one will have the buck. Then these libs, and dems, and rino’s will be looking for something to eat but starvation will rule their day. They will lament for the bed they have made for themselves. They will look for us conservitives but we wont be there. We will be tucked snuggly in our homes with our prepper food, and our guns and our bibles while we hear the sounds of the voices outside crying for want af a morsel of food, and for a gun to protect themselves from the murderous bands that roam the streets preying on the unprepared scoundrals that created this mess. Then we will hear from heaven these words… Be not decieved, God is not mocked, whatsoever a man sows that shall he also reap. And as the voices grow silent outside we will emerge with gold in our hands to restart our economy. and unapposed conservative wisdom to restart our government. And bibles, prayer, and God to restart our society. Every dog has it’s day and they are having theirs but it wont last forever.

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    • RepubliCorp
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 2:31am

      TURKEY13 where you got it there is no need to worry

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    • Female
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 2:37am

      After 12:00 est New Years Eve, much of the country especially the liberals are out partying. Must be worse than O’care.

      2012 shaft and robbery leading to 2013 can kicking down the road.

      Republicans, we elected you to stop these increases in taxes, It only took a few of you to get to 60, therefore 29 of you needlessly committed political suicide. In 2 months, do you really think they are going to cut spending by a significant amount? Number 1 rule is get everything written in the contract, verbal or eye wink agreements don’t stand-up…..

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    • Godzgrl247
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 5:31am

      Yep! And they voted themselves a raise ta boot!

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    • dukielouie
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 6:45am

      I will not COMPLY!!!!! Everyone of these idiots need to go.

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    • mersey
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:06am

      As long as a larger percent of morons turn up and vote at elections than truly concerned Americans, this is the type of government we deserve. History books will not be kind to the current generation of Americans.

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    • BreeZee
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:48am

      I’m done with the GOP. this was the final straw, I hope the 51%’ers are the first to pay for their uninformed socialistic votes last Nov. Sadly as barry said “I’m prez for the next four years” and congress has been nullified and America is all but gone and I will probably be arrested for this next statement but I am done with all this crap. Screw gun control (Dick Act or 1902) I am locked and loaded and I WILL NOT COMPLY anymore to tyrannical gov’t and it is my RIGHT by the Declaration of Independence and Constitution to overthrow said tyrannical gov’t.

      It is time for the T party and 9-12 to think about recalls and impeachment of these tyrants in congress..

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    • BreeZee
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:07am

      “Unless the people, through unified action, arise and take charge of their government, they will find that their government has taken charge of them. Independence and liberty will be gone, and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish interest.”
      Calvin Coolidge

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    • PATTY HENRY
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:13am

      I know REID, McConnell think they are the center of the Universe but boys: You are C grade players; you are totally inept. the whole thing is one big
      Y
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    • Graphiterikel
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:59am

      Wowzer! Gracious! Dont’cha just adore political theater? All of this silliness was carved in stone weeks ago. We are governed by fools, hucksters and wimps. Haven’t you ever wondered why there are no mirrors or reflective objects in the Halls of Congress? Simple. It’s because these reprobates (vampires) we keep electing either cannot be seen in a reflection or they can’t stand to face themselves (Dorian Gray). Either way folks, if Christ doesn’t come first and The Smithsonian still stands 150 years from now I will guarantee that right in the middle of the entry hall of the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars (Hi Glenn) will be a wonderous exhibit. It will be a a single glass container containing the VERY CAN (not a replica folks) that our elected officials kicked down the road until it hit a brick wall. A Progressive will tell you it has the battle scars of a real Democracy being formed in the manner of Russia, China, Nazi Germany, Venezuela…I could go on. Nah! But the archeologists will just stare and marvel at how that ugly piece of tin managed to be kicked so often without anybody replacing it with a brand new one. In two years folks, we need to replace Congress.
      And tell them to go buy their own daggum can next time!
      Nuf Sed! Graph

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    • dcatkin
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:32am

      Well it’s all over with now, the morons have spoken although it’s just another attempt to make the people fell good that congress does a lot of nothing, accept makes tax hikes and pay raises for themselves.

      Yes tax hikes are for them, it’s all about gving the Dems more flow to spend as it comes in to the coffers. We do need term limits on the lot of them, and no lobbys allowed. We need the constitution enforced, and any who don’t want that should be put to death.

      This fiscal cliff deal is a sham, it’s just to make the people think that they are making progress. Obviously the people don’t care much, they elected Obama again, or was that voting machine fraud.

      Well any way this deal is just a way for Obama to get what he wants, like a whinning brat kid. If I don’t get my way we go over the cliff. It’s a classic whinning bratt manuver.

      Free Our Country

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    • G-WHIZ
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:07am

      Vast majorityof 1%ers are Dems and PROGS in sennate and house…most worth over 40miliom$$!!

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:27am

      Where are the spending cuts?

      The dumb Republicans got rolled again. They get talked into a tax increase with a promise of spending cuts in the future. Surprisingly, the tax increases go to affect and they never get around to any spending cuts.

      The democrats that been pulling this since Ronald Reagan and the Republicans keep falling for it. The bill had to be crafted behind closed doors and voted on before the American people had a chance to see it and express their opinion.

      This is complete contempt for the American people.

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    • Bumpintheroad
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:53am

      They don’t care, they’ve all got thier money, er i should say our money, bulging in thier pockets. Wonder how much self enrichment pork spending is in the bill. It never ends.

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    • hallkbrdz
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 11:05am

      No budget – no taxes from me. If you can’t tell me how you are going to spend my money, and do it responsibly, you don’t get any.

      We need to take a stand as US citizens and starve them to death – no taxes.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 11:20am

      That’s right kids! The “fiscal conservatives” in the Senate passed a bill that has a 41:1 ratio of taxes to cuts. Meaning, for every $1 in cut, we get $41 in taxes! And of course, as we all know, nothing is ever “cut”, they just decrease the increase, since they work by criminal accounting methods.

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/31/Fiscal-cliff-deal-41-1-in-tax-increases-to-spending-cuts-ratio

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 12:04pm

      Republicans do not like the feel of a rope around their necks any more than do the commies. It is all about not wanting to swing from a tree branch. They all have that fear-Dems and Gopps.

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  • shortnsweet
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:45pm

    We went over the Cliff Nov. 6!

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    • neverending
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:53pm

      Yeah no kidding.

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    • Theblackbook
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:10pm

      Amen!

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:28pm

      Actually, we went over the cliff when Romney was successfully cheat-nominated in Tampa.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:53pm

      Add your comments

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:58pm

      Yes we did .. btw with regards to the assault on the second ammendment there is a plane to go protest on February 8th at EVERY state capital .. it is too expensive and working people can’t get to D.C. but state capitals are easier. It is on Facebook.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:01pm

      I did NOT write the “add yor comments” post … weird .. I am on my Kindle and I need to go charge it .. again weird!

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    • TRILO
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:05pm

      Decades ago.

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:39pm

      I told me wife that they’ll put it off til the last mintue and then act like saviours of our freedom. I KNEW they would come out and be heros for all of us forlorn and forgoten. Thank you from the downtroden. If anyone thought they would go over the cliff,… You haven’t been paying attention. It’s all in the plan folks. It’s too late.

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    • ADNIL
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:09am

      Over the cliff? More like down the crapper.

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    • dissentnow
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:11am

      We’ve been going over the cliff for years. The dems and the repubs have been spending us into oblivion long before Obama.

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    • Fubared
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:39am

      Bro Smitty
      You should probably check into a rehab while you can.

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    • 1389AD
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:52am

      Brother Winston Smith is right about Romney. But then, I voted for Newt, not Ron Paul. Newt gets it about the jihad – Ron Paul just doesn’t, and neither does Mitt Romney.

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 11:29am

      I see only 5 Republican Senators with a future … don’t be fooled by the Dems who voted against it … they either wanted MORE taxes or were “allowed” to vote no for reelection reasons. One of my Senators is on the no list .. Rubio of Florida.

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  • repup
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:42pm

    aww common guys, they need the money to build the washington moat

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:57pm

      .
      as soon as they ALL leave DC, we need to move in and change the locks & setup guards

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    • Kregneva
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:09pm

      polarized Am…

      Are U in America? Do you vote in the USA??

      Kregneva  
    • Polarized America
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:22pm

      KREGNEVA…. i replied to you below on my thread ..and here you are. following me around !
      do you need a friend ? if so, sorry, i’m busy

      btw…. yes i live in one of the 57 States

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    • RexBeagle
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:36pm

      With ARMED guards!!

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:41pm

      Does that pic not remid you of those from Marvel Comics !?!? He’s our hero !!!

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    • mercenary4freedom
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 1:59am

      couple of those women look like they’re ready to go stand on the corner and solicit some business, especially the one in the designer fishnet stockings.

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  • valiant1776
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:41pm

    Does that mean liberals will be upset now because those darn rich millionaires making $250,000 a year won’t get taxed more?

    BTW, Do not consent to any gun control legislation that congress puts forth. It’s all unconstitutional. They may only train, equip and discipline the state militias, for certain specified reasons, but they have no power to infringe on the people’s right to keep and bear arms. None. Do not consent. Do not comply to fingerprints. Do not comply to photos. Do not comply to registration. Do not give them a freaking inch. They intend to confiscate them all.

    There will be a 2nd Amendment March on February 8 in every State Capitol,

    https://www.facebook.com/events/406312512782872/406530982761025/?ref=notif&notif_t=event_mall_reply

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:01pm

      Al Gore called people making $100,000 a year millionaires, because in 10 years they would have made a million. This is before taxes & living expenses. It also assumes they don;t have student loans like many doctors.

      So this class envy schtick of the Democrats goes back 20 years. They hate anyone whom makes 6 figures or more unless it is them or their backers.

      In short obama is continuing the tradition started or continued by Al Gore. There is nothing new here. obama just is a slightly better salesman at selling a liberal terd.

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    • 1TrueOne55
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:28pm

      The problem Al Gore had or has, he is not Black or even 50% Black. He can’t play the race card like Obama can and be believed. Also Al Gore lost Florida recount because state law required the whole state be recounted not just party favored districts and he did not have enough funding to do that and he knew that if they did that he might lose. And that was found out after the 2000 election when University papers went through the whole state recount and found that Bush really did win the state and the Supreme Court Decision was not really necessary but Gore pushed it to that point.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:02pm

      1TrueOne55

      Awesome post on the Al Gore & Florida vote. I copied it.

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  • CatB
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:41pm

    I’m not much of a “drinker” .. I have an assortment of liquor from when friends come to Florida to get out of the cold .. what goes with Squirt soda? I can’t take this sober.

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    • sybilll
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:51pm

      Anything 80 proof or higher.

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    • Kara_ite
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:52pm

      I do not drink, but I would throw out the Squirt (too much sugar) and chug whatever I had.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:59pm

      Need the sugar to help coat and protect tummy .. heading into the liquor cabinet .. know I have tequila, rum, vodka …

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    • whatthecrazy
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:01pm

      Thats funny Cat,probably most clear stuff will do,I’m having an amereto sour right now ok i’m on my second one and can’t wait till the third.My daughter gifted me with the set up for Christmas.They are yummy and i only really drink on New Years Eve and thought this time i too need a mental break.HAPPY NEW YEAR…………………

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:37pm

      @WHAT … that’s funny found Amarretto also .. but didn’t know what to do with it … ended up with Kahlua and cream with some milk and a little shot of chocolate in a 24oz glass … doubt I will need another. ;-)

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    • SCREW-WINDOWS
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:55pm

      Yukon Jack and Squirt in a 50/50 mix does the job.

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    • Female
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 1:34am

      Vodka!

      goes with anything citrus and even ice coffee plus great beverage to celebrate communism of course!

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    • sligresda
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 3:01am

      vodka goes great with ice, water and lemon. you dont need no stinking squirt. the beauty of vodka and water is that, sure you may be dehydrating with the vodka, but the water is rehydrating! its a win win.

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  • FLYOVERSTATEIOWA
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:40pm

    Too bad the house has to approve it before it can be enacted. (Tongue in cheek)
    Actually the house writes the policy, the senate bill will not matter. I should say, it shouldn’t matter. Just the o-care. Unconstitutional because it was started in the senate.

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    • Advection
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:00pm

      They have a history of laughing off questions of constitutionality. They’re infamous.

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:25pm

      It is just a game. It does Not really matter. I am just glad that i can print my own money and have magic box where i can pull out food and booze.

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    • Sully9378
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:34pm

      why doesnt ***** actualy intoduce a bill that can pass the house. I realize that the President and Senate probably wouldn’t pass it but at least it would be constitutional.

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    • Sully9378
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:42pm

      OK fine Blaze people! Boehner. A guy can’t have fun anymore at other peoples expence:)

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    • booger71
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 2:45am

      FLYOVERSTATEIOWA
      ===============
      What the Senate did was pull out one of the House spending bills sent over earlier, striped it, and inserted new language, so technically they could say the bill originated in the House.

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  • thedude50
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:40pm

    I say lets go off the cliff let the rich liberals feel a little pain lets see how long the rich on the left can take the pain before they come whining back to the table to get a deal

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  • phrogdriver
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:39pm

    All this drama and theater over athe possible return to previous tax rates and a slight decrease in the rate of increase in two areas of the budget.. No wonder the real problems don’t get solved. We are purely screwed.

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:30pm

      thats why it was Ron Paul and if not Ron Paul, then Gary Johnson. They screw us every chance they get – get them the F out of there

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  • qpwillie
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:37pm

    No surprise here. I predicted this very thing a few weeks ago right here on the Blaze.

    I’ll make another prediction. The next time one of these deadlines comes up, they’ll put on their little show right up to the last few minutes, the Republicans will cave and Obama will get what he wants.

    It doesn’t take a prophet. The next time you watch one of the old reruns of I Love Lucy, it’s going to end exactly the same way it ended the first time you watched it.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:32pm

      Exactly. I’ve watched the sitcom rerun “Better Evil” for decades now. But we keep doing it over and over and over… only to COMPLAIN about the results.

      Don’t blame me though, I voted Peroutka 04, Baldwin 08 and Ron Paul 12. It’s of little consolation, but I am one of the few who are blameless.

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    • ChiefGeorge
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:34pm

      Hehe right on brother!

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    • soybomb315_II
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:50pm

      it is easy to predict because we know that the republican party is not interested in cutting spending. But they will go along with tax increases if it makes them look good

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  • kdshell1
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:35pm

    Too bad tax bills must originate Constitutionally in the House and not the Senate. Now all the House must do if find meaningful, real, drastic, and immediate spending cuts to put with a tax-change bill that will eliminate the deficit and reduce the debt.

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  • LIBSALWAYSLIE
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:35pm

    Gee, and all this time I thought it was a spending problem, turns out its a revenue problem, now everything will be just fine…..

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    • noahcline
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:40pm

      Boehner OUT, McConnell OUT… spineless… Rep. (conseratives) always give in… NO MORE!!!

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    • Lord_Frostwind
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:42pm

      Until reality hits, that is going to be a very bad day, and no amount of wheeling and dealing will be able to save the old USA.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:34pm

    The headlines will be “Fiscal Cliff Averted” .. In one week, Obama will be on the campaign trail telling every one that it would have been better if the GOP did not become obstructionists on the $250,000. That X number of dollars will not be collected to give to the people who have been suffering for the last 5 years due to the Bush and GOP years.

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  • Hotconchick
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:31pm

    Biden saved the day! Yay- what a superhero.

    Why didn’t these idiots just go home? Doesn’t someone need to vote like the Senate and the House? What a joke this is…I liked it better when we were off the cliff.

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  • Stelex
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:30pm

    Awesome, just sold my guns, got rid of my stores, burned my bible, obviously the government rules. I shall sleep well tonight. How many times have we seen this play? Good lord, stop paying taxes everyone.

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    • Kara_ite
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:55pm

      good idea

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    • chicago76
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:56pm

      There is a way. Everyone go on welfare or social security.

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    • zman173rd
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:52pm

      You know it’s a kind of a combination 1984 and Farenheight 541 rolled into one. F-541 because they have us addicted to TV, and the drugs have been legalized. And 1984 because they’ve convinced us ( you, not me) there is an underground capable of overthrowing the government. Sorry folks, it’s too late.

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    • 1776freedomofspeech
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:09am

      @zman173rd

      You left out “A Brave New World”.

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  • jspec33
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:24pm

    God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

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    • Wino911
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:33pm

      Amen!!

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    • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:35pm

      And to fire all the blasted bum traitors that gave us this mess in 2014.

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    • Mil Mom
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:57pm

      @Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:35pm

      And to fire all the blasted bum traitors that gave us this mess in 2014
      ***
      Snow, if many of us have that attitude they’ll find a way to not have elections in 2014, Watch!

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    • GrayPanther
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:54am

      Amen! And that means to get off your back side and begin to support the Tea Party movement and take over you local Republican city or county party. In Arizona we have done this and there will never be another Juan McCain elected again! So get up, stop blogging and join the Republican party and take it over from the RINOS and work the grass roots for a better solution in 2014 and 2016. OK?

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:23pm

    Translation – we have been sold down the river once again by the failed leadership of Boehner.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:30pm

      H*ll have no fury like people sold down the river … 2013 we find people to PRIMARY these fools … in 2014 we throw the bums out!

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    • americansfightingforcommonsense
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:34pm

      Bingo…Ding ding ding

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    • Twisted Mind
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:39pm

      catb thought that was 2012. Me thinks 2014 will be a repeat. Stupid voters

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:46pm

      Nope .. remember 2010 … the Obama voters don’t bother to show up at midterms… unless the unions can get them on the buses .. we stand a chance in 2014 .. I think our last.

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    • bigbear_awake
      Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:51am

      catb we dont make it till 2014

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  • cactusjoe
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:22pm

    Yeah they raise taxes dont cut spending or entitlements(welfare) pat each other on the back and declare victory. This why we will be crashing like greese in thenext few years.

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:20pm

    .
    I think I’m gonna Puke. then get Drunk…………………….

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:32pm

      and repeat!

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    • DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:50pm

      Poppin the cork shortly. No reason to celebrate, but defininately reason to drown my sorrows.

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:41pm

      Didn’t they get a monthly vodka allotment in the old U.S.S.R.? They need to add that into screwing us over.

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  • jspec33
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:19pm

    More taxes and no cuts way to go morons

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    • flyoverbob
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:28pm

      SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE,none of them can stop spending.But actually none of them want to stop.
      Something will be done when they cant borrow anymore.
      Who was it that said American’s will always do the right thing,but only after they try everything else ?

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    • fedupcitizen2012
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:02pm

      You are right, something will be done when they can’t borrow anymore. They’ll raise the debt ceiling!

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    • U.S. Constitutionist
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 10:26pm

      We have yet to see nor hear of pork projects thrown into this…

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  • Lordchamp
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:19pm

    So utterly predictable. They’ve played this card too many times and I’m sick of it because every time they do it we get screwed even worse than if they did nothing at all.

    Also, what about the house? Do they not have to vote on it too?

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  • Kregneva
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:17pm

    So be it, there is such a thing as Compromise – even among the sternest Grinch ethic, our love for America allows us to Govern as a country. UNITED we stand…a not so perfect UNION…

    Kregneva  
    • Walkabout
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 11:31pm

      So there was a compromise to cut the rate of growth by a sliver in 2 areas.

      That is enough progress?
      ***
      We cut the rate of growth in parts of the budget, but we already have a huge debt 16 trillion & are borrowing 40%to 50% of each budget.

      France invaded Mexico in the 1860s because of debt. Britain invaded Egypt over debt. France & Britain wanted to invade Venezuela over debt.

      Mainland U.S, may not get invaded, but overseas American companies might be nationalized to compensate for pour debt. Some of these businesses or American corporations & others a small concerns run by expats

      Without the expat community where would America be? The expats of many countries float their home countries financially. Even if they don’t financially save their countries they are very important to the financial health if those companies.

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  • booger71
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:15pm

    Senate is one thing, it will never get by the House without budget cuts.

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:15pm

    End the fed return to the gold standard problem solved. As long as the fed can continue printing money out of thin air the idiots in congress will keep us in debt in perpetuity.

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  • ares338
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:15pm

    Whattya know!

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  • Polarized America
    Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:14pm

    >>>>>>>>……REPORTS: THERE IS A FISCAL CLIFF DEAL…<<<<<<<<<

    …………………….they must be getting drunk…………………

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    • Kregneva
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:19pm

      Greetings, P-A, are you an American? Hello Boy. It’s raining in Bristol?

      Kregneva  
    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:33pm

      I’m certainly considering it … POLARIZED

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:36pm

      Cheers, K—A, are you in sane ? Hello Girly. It’s too cold to rain in Bristol !

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:38pm

      .

      i hear ya Cat….Happy New Year…. /;-)

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    • CatB
      Posted on December 31, 2012 at 9:44pm

      Happy New Year .. and pass the liquor … ;-)

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