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Stunning Graphic Shows Possible Reason the House GOP Balked at Senate’s Fiscal Cliff Bill
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Prepare to scroll down a considerable distance to get the full impact of this image illustrating the difference between the annual tax increase from the Senate-approved Fiscal Cliff bill ($62 billion) and the actual 2011 U.S. Budget Deficit ($1.089 TRILLION).
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South Philly Boy
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:51pmThe Magic Words… TERM LIMIT
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ex-repub
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:56pmThats not gonna happen. They would have to vote on that themselves. How many politicians have died in office because they could not step away from the free gravy?
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:04pm@ex-rpe
Sad but true.
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:04pmThere is only two possibilities those that say they don’t understand what they are doing are either ignorant or evil. You decide
https://vimeo.com/52009124
If America goes down, the free world will go down with it and it will be finished for a very, very long time…
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turkey13
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:07pmWe here in Oklahoma will lose Tom Colburn to term limits and he is hated by both partys because he blows the whistle on things like the bridge to nowhere, so both partys hate him. Back in 2007 Hillery Clinton spent $ 95 million for the NY Senate seat.That is a lot of favors for a seat she didn’t even fill so as Sec. of State a lot of folks had axcess to her. With Term Limits these folks would be running for their district rather than the whole country. Lobbiest would think twice about giving millions to someone that can only serv 2 terms.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:10pmI thought they didn’t like guns?http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/01/assploding-irony-new-york-newspaper-publishing-names-and-addresses-of-legal-gun-owners-hires-armed-security-guards/
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Anamah
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:27pmImpechment…
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:28pmGuess who is special in this bill?http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/01/01/hollywood-loophole-fiscal-cliff
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dublinthewagons
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:45pm@ex-repub. Not near enough. More should die from rope burns than gravy stains
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pschlentz
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:50pmThat’s an Affirmative, Term Limits would do it!
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:00pmAfter Eight, Must Vacate (maybe after TWO, maybe after FOUR)!
Stop the ‘going along to get along!’
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AmericaMustBeFree
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:01pmYou don’t really think our vote counts anymore do you?? There all fixed! Tyranny is the only way clean house.And sooner or later its going to come.. probably when they try to take your guns!
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HappyConservative
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:15pmI will stop paying taxes.
Like the other 47%
Screw the Govt and obama they will no longer get one red cent of my hard-earned dollars.
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SCHEXbp
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:37pmPeople KEEP asking for term limits; it was tried once & failed.
Newt had it included in the Contract with America & it was the ONLY one of the 10 items to fail. It lost 5-4 at the U. S. Supreme Ct. If you like reading law, look up the common-sense dissent written by Clarence Thomas to see why term limits should be acceptable.
It may take a newly-written law (to be re-litigated) or else a constitutional amendment (as it stands now).
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valiant1776
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:45pmTerm limits can be accomplished two ways, through the ballot or through the bullet.
True Story, armed WW2 veterans take back their Government in a local town in Tenn.:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncdXfUAkMUI
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bb010864
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 11:22pmAmen to that Philly Boy !!
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SilentRunner
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 9:28amNay. The magic words: firing squad.
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TERM-LIMITS
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 9:34amENACT TERM LIMITS!!
http://wh.gov/U5rY Sign the petition and at least get our voice heard!
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avgconservative
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 9:36amTom Coburn’s term limit is self-imposed.
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searcher619
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 10:37amWe tried that. I forget the year. It was either in the late 80′s or early 90′s. I just remember being amazed and disgusted when the people voted to impose term limits on congress and instead of abiding by the will of the people, congress actually took the people to court to fight it and actually won. That was the day the reality that our elected officials do not feel they need to answer to us was hammered into my young mind.
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PlowMan
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:21amTerm limits maybe, but I say repeal the 17th amendment. That will be a good start to right our past wrongs.
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dnewton
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:53amI have never been in favor of term limits but I would like to see a ten vote per lifetime limit. After you vote ten times, you are done and replaced with another Senator or Representative. This would cut down on voting for something before voting against it and it would cut down on frivolous subject matter. There should also be an end to Omnibus bills that contain numerous provisions that are unrelated to the title.
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 12:15pmOk, South Filly, have you written you three-congresspersons about Term Limits?
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Evileye
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 12:49pmThe USA is like a Stage 4 terminal Cancer patient
No Hope for recovery
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Beepster
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 1:50pmNow, I just wonder if the individual states can limit the terms of those who supposedly represent them? That would be one way, I would think.
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cemerius
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 2:01pm@South Philly Boy
The ONLY way this could even come close to being made possible is to have a 2/3′s of Governors present it to their states first. BUT, these same Governors are looking at “higher office” and would be even MORE hard pressed to cut up that golden goose then Congress will. We have term limits here in Florida and it works out just fine until “Mr Fake and Bake” Charlie Christ pops his ugly head up for another chance!!!!
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Mephisto
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 2:47pmNo need for term limits because the “moron” voters will always vote for the hand that feeds them. I have a better solution and it’s called the firing squad. No more re-elections, just a more permanent solution. And, let us give a graphic example of what “trickle-down” really means by starting at the top and working our way down.
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nomark
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:51pmTerm limits could be done right now. It’s called “election day.”
(Note: I support a Constitutional Amendment, I’m just saying if the will was there, we’d have it done already.) Too many people (not just politicians) on the gravy train.
Nothing will change until the crash happens.
When it does, I believe the US will be split up into 3 new countries. The Pacific Northwest (CA/OR/WA), the Northeast (New England, NY, PA, NJ, DC, MD, VA, and maybe a few others) and then the rest of the country will band together to bring our country back into sanity. Because right now we all know where the insane people live, and it isn’t where we live.
If you are a sane person and you live in the insane part of the country, sell now because housing/land prices will never recover in those areas from where they are now, there will be a massive deprecation over the next 20 years and values will climb in “fly over country.” Now is the perfect time to start planning and taking action.
Just look over the maps folks. It’s not hard to see what is coming.
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UNIX_Techie
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 10:59pmWe have TERM LIMITS. It’s called election day. Mobilize voters in your local precinct. Word is that the reason why Obama was voted in was because the Republican base did not turn out.
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KeystoneState
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:50pmWhy do we continue to put faith into these clowns who couldn’t run a lemonade stand? I’m so disgusted!
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1389AD
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 2:20amThey’ve put up with the same thing in Zimbabwe under Robert Mugabe.
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ex-repub
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:48pmYou knew the greatest scam on earth, elected politicians, could not wait for everyone to be hung over and not pay attention to them while they put their hands deeper into the cookie jar. This whole thing has been a sham from the beginning. Harry Reid, John Boehner they play for the same team the team of enriching their lives off of our sweat and blood. The taxpaying citizen in this country does not even know the half of what they are doing to them. The part that upsets me is the political maneuvering that just took place. I am no way any political analysist, but I can see what just took place.
The dems and repubs both argued and postured to the public drumming up false sense of fear of going over the “cliff”. The dems act like they got screwed on not fleecing the rich for all their money. And the repubs get to sign a deal today or tomorrow. By doing this the republican base gets to see us not signing a deal before 2013 and think they have won by going over the cliff and enacting all of the mandatory cuts. In reality absolutely nothing has changed except for the special interests that were fulfilled in the bill they are going to sign because nobody read the bill before they voted. I really wont be surprised that one day our freedom has been given over to th UN for total control of our government just because no none reads the damn bills.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:27pmThe “fiscal cliff” nonsense is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
It’s not like we haven’t seen this kind of thing before. It’s an act, put on by the political class, to keep the American people from seizing them and putting their heads on pikes.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:46pmAnd there are still people who dont realize that obama is the worst president in history. Maybe after he destroys the economy a few will wake up, but its too late. We’re screwed. There are none so blind as those who will not see……..
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TEOTWASWKI
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:35pmNo. after Obama and the democrats destroy the economy the MSM will convince the sheep that the republicans did it. Obama truly out foxed the DA republicans. If they vote for tax increases and betray their pledge they will lose their base if they block the vote they will be blamed and lose the majority. Their only hope and a slime one at that is to vote present and let the dems own the recession that will follow.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:29pmLook, let’s be realistic about this.
The Republicans DID do it. And so did the Democrats.
Holding one party blameless, is purest bovine excrement. It takes two to tango, after all.
And you Republicans wonder why nobody loves you any more.
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asybot12
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 11:45pm@norm de plume , if you you knew how to spell it I might answer. ( sarcasm intended you are not worth it.).
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GTCharlie
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:03amWe will not see change until those that collect for doing nothing feel the pinch of not receiving all those freebees. Benjamin Franklin said, “Do not make the poor so comfortable that they start liking it”. Back in the fifties my family was in a bind so we did accept government help. The help was in the area of food which was a gallon of milk and a block of cheese each week. And, you know something, I appreciated this help. Now the help is a free cell phone, free gasoline, discounted housing, expensive food items, and cash from the food stamp card. I had a reason to improve my self and get away from the government help. Today the compliant is, ‘Why can’t I get more help?”
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KeystoneState
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:44pmWhat a joke!
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revelation2012
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:43pm‘they’ cut it as close to end of timeline so
‘IT can NOT be READ,,,
“We the People” aka American Citizens are NOT iDiots!!!
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ex-repub
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:54pmYup, I wonder what freedom I have lost due to my representative not doing his job and reading something before he puts his name to it.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:04pmrevelation2012
You gotta wonder how much of it is legitimate hardball politics between 2 parties & how much is kabuki theatre.
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TRILO
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 9:42pmYou are absolutely right. We have already found out that the bill the Senate voted on spends $330 billion more than they will collect with all the pork. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? They are all in on the fleecing of America.
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schroeder123
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:41pmTake everyone of those spending democrats and ride them out of town on a rail with Tar and Feathers, then prosecute them for Treason.
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e.galle
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:34pmCome on add 3/4 republicans on that same rail.
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:41pmWe are screwed. The progressives want to collapse the system, plain and simple. Obama and his herd of demoncrat sheep are doing what we always knew they would do, destroy the economy. Prepare, its going to get very ugly.
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neverending
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:00pmYep and especially since a whole bunch of ignorant people handed him a second term on a golden platter.
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Norm D. Plume
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:31pmThe Democrats and the Republicans are marching in lock-step on this one. Plenty — PLENTY — of blame to go around.
Shockingly, libertarians and constitutionalists have been railing against this stuff for decades.
Might want to look that direction in 2014 and 2016. If we get elections, that is. And if we can trust the results.
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Atomic
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:40pmThe chart is missing the bar for the gov’t spending amount.
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TIMEBOMB
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:37pmMy supporters look at that graph and say the rich aren’t paying their fair share and our ole sugar daddy just needs to take more from them. Just between you and me I could confiscate all your wealth and it wouldn’t do any good but my supporters for the most part are uneducated worthless lazy idiots who couldn’t find a job to save their lives so I have to give them the impression that I care about them and well since they’re so stupid it’s really very easy to accomplish. So in very short order the US is going to have a depression,feel free to call it the Obama depression because I’m very proud of what I’ve done to you and will continue to do as long as I like,see millions of idiots that keep me in power. My mission is almost complete I will reduce you to third world status,destroy America and it’s constitution and when the civil war starts because of hyperinflation I will crush all dissent in spectacular fashion! Praise be to me BHO.
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Kregneva
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:50pmDear President Obama, I am having trouble really believing it is you! Do you endorse this website? I was under the impression this was an Anti-Obama environment, and if that is not true, I feel foolish.
The-Monk
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:01pm@Kregneva
Yes…. you should feel as foolish as Humanly possible. LOL
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TIMEBOMB
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:09pmDear loyal subject you are addressing your ruler BHO the one and only and I’m here to win over some more votes. Yes I know I won the election but I have no intention of stepping down from my throne anytime soon,no I’m here for the rest of my Godly life so sit back and enjoy the destruction.All my friends told me I’d be president of the United States one day,they’d say son of Satan you’ll be the leader of the free world and in no time you’ll plunge it into a depression the likes of which the world has never seen.I’m doing my best and I’ll get you there,you can count on me. Praise be to me BHO.
BTW About me endorsing this website? I’ll allow the kids to have some fun then when I feel like it I’ll flip off the switch on the internet and voila no more dissent.
AvengerK
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:30amIt’s good to see that your concern for spending and debt in this country MONICNE/ENCINOM/SLEAZY HIPPO/KREGNEVA. Oh what’s that? You didn’t mention it?
You reflexively chimed in instead to defend personal insults against Barack Obama rather than discuss the debt he keeps increasing. That’s what good statists like you do..distract, obfuscate, insult..ad nauseum.
Perhaps if you log as one of your numerous other screennames you’ll discuss the debt and spending?
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Kregneva
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 2:29pmyou are a sick puppy AVENGERK/KREGNEVA/OBAMA SHAM/TROLLTRAINER/CHEEZWHIZ
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EdgeOfSanity
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:37pmProblem is that the tax increases are real. The spending “Cuts” are reductions in future increases. So instead of a 25% budget expenditure, they will “Cut” it 10% so the increase will only be 15%.
Most of the news reporters and American viewers have never been taught anything in their “education” it will seem to make perfect sense that the proposed 10% spending cut is reasonable.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:46pmThe CBO has scored the new bill it adds 4 trillion dollars to the deficit. WOW!
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:02pmMost people are unaware of Baseline budgeting with its’ automatic increases, which are way above inflation.
Rush Limbaugh has talked about them for 15 or 20 years. He only reaches 20 million people & there are 300 or so million in the United State.
Baseline budgeting ensure the federal government grows faster than the natural economy (GDP).
How could that every F/CKING work in the long term you F/CKING f/ckercrat tards?
Remember low information voters kill nations and their people in the long term.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:03pmMost people are unaware of Baseline budgeting with its’ automatic increases, which are way above inflation.
Rush Limbaugh has talked about them for 15 or 20 years. He only reaches 20 million people & there are 300 or so million in the United State.
Baseline budgeting ensure the federal government grows faster than the natural economy (GDP).
Remember low information voters kill nations and their people in the long term.
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MisterSarcastic
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:34pmHmmmm….Me tinks Opelka may be on to something here.
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GlennDuh
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:28pmBlah, blah, blah. More graphs from the right which are wrong.
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Joss
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:31pmThanks for your input, UI.
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AllLost
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:36pmHow is the graphic wrong?
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LIBSALWAYSLIE
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:38pmGLENDUH, so facts mean nothing to you? Oh yes, thats right, facts mean NOTHING to liberals, in fact, they fear them, so of course it makes sense to mock the facts. You are disgusting. All liberals are pathetic liars.
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Red Meat
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:41pmHow’s it ‘feel’ being a low-life taker?
Probably pretty good for a degenerate like you. Now go back to your step-mother, she’s calling you to paint her toenails.
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stopprintn
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:41pmWhat’s $1.39 your portfolio ?
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Advection
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:41pmClaiming it’s wrong is easy.
Explain exactly how it’s wrong, or else admit you lied.
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BlackCrow
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:43pmDe-Nile is more than a river in Egypt.
What part of that graph is inaccurate?
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:58pmGlenda,
I write this not for your benefitm but the beneift of everyone else.
Either the tax increases proposed will raise in the ballpark if $ 62 billion or they won’t
You did not deny that they would.
Either the CBO projected budget deficit is in the neighborhood of $1,098 billion or it is not.
You did not deny that it is.
The rest is simple arithmetic, fractions & percentages that kids should be learning in grade school.
The additional tax increases bring enough additional revenue to close the budget deficit by 5.7%.
That is mathematics that is beyond dispute given the 1st 2 points.
You want to dispute the CBO numbers or the arithmetic? Either you are no Marine or I now see why you could not make sergeant. So 4 & out whether you had anything lined up or not.
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eagledown
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:11pm@GLENNDUH $139?
Is that what you paid for your education?
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GlennDuh
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:37pmYou guys should read my posts and not disparage them.
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gyro
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:40pmdont beat up on GlennDuh he is just a bit off level
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red1
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:40pmFacts are hard. This is an excellent video by Bill Whittle that explains the situation also. Eat the Rich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ
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AvengerK
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:25amRead your posts GLENNDUH/WANGO/HORSEDANCER/PANTLOADIAN? Why? Are the scribblings of a delusional lefty troll like you valuable to anyone?
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perry1980
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:26pmIt was NEVER about Taxes or Taxing or Tax increases
It has Always been about Spending!!
We Don’t have a Tax Problem. We have a SPENDING problem
Wake Up America
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Magyar
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:40pmPerry— We’ve been aware and awake for years and KNEW we would end up here if a bloody Liberal ever won the presidency…. It’s a PERFECT storm and We The People are now in a vortex racing toward Sodom and Gomorrah at alarming speed.
If you are NOT financially positioned, stocked for a year and armed— survival will be all but impossible when the SHTF…. Mark my words………….
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Advection
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:58pmIt’s undeniable that SPENDING is the problem, if you’re honest and care about the truth. But Obama is dishonest, and his worshippers want to believe lies. So, they deny the truth.
But they can only deny gravity for so long, but eventually they’ll hit the ground.
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decendentof56
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:07pmDo you wonder why NO budget has been proposed by the Socialist-Dems for 4 yrs, yet they continue to spend beyond belief?
Certain gov sources (multiple scources) have leaked info, like:
The election was over in Sept.
People….weren’t some states denied right to verify voting eligibility?
Judges got “the word”, loud and clear, to not allow verification. (SC/PA/AZ and others)
There was never going to be a “deal” about the fiscal cliff.
Thank Obama and his “handlers” for that.
Jarrett and Napolitano are in charge, but Obama is aware.
Why Napolitano?
Isn’t she DHS?
Yes!
What’s that got to do with “the cliff?”
Nothing!
How about no food on the grocery shelves?
Civil unrest, perhaps?
Going to protect your family iof it happens?
Not without guns!
Kind of a perfect storm, huh?
Have you ever heard of “detainment camps?”
Some of you drive by them every day.
Remember the ammo requested by DHS this past year?
How about NDAA? Indefinite detainment?
Did you forget?
Still want them to get your legal guns?
You’ll be able to voluntarily turn them in…..you can be a good citizen.
Don’t think they’ll do it????
What happens if there’s another SH?
DHS will be in full riot control.
Fiscal cliff…..no food, etc.
Then the confiscation starts.
They have your firearms reg. forms if you are legal.
Amnesty, then the doors get kicked in.
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NoMoMrNiceGuy
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:22pmIt is the theater of the absurd !
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MLeo
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:21pmWhy do the Democrats and Obama want to be so profligate? They live here, too.
Collapse the worth of the dollar and….people will still have to eat, sleep, drive places, heat their houses, wash up….. Even these cretins.
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develdog84
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:34pmIn all communist states have rich and poor people. Oboma and co,. intendeds to be the rich.
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Mudd
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:49pmBecause their base are the poor and oppressed who vote for a big government to “care” for and protect them. In short, it’s about job security.
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Magyar
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:51pmOvomit and lice do NOT see themselves as immoral! They believe themselves to be the architects of a better world where everyone will happily embrace mediocrity for the benefit of their fellow man. NOTHING could be further from the truth— and there will begin the revolution.
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Shamrock241
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:56pmThe IDIOTS in Washington have vastly underestimated the outcome of a total collapse in this country, never in mankinds history has such a large populace of extreamly well armed citizens face a total breakdown in society, they will not be able to control the fallout.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:03pmNo….they have stolen enough money (they think) that they can retreat to another country or, if the outside world gets really bad,….they will be living under some mountain in West Virginia built for government types to weather a break-down.
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marthasusan40
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:18pmOh yes, it is coming…………get ready.
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Bum thrower
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:25pmGOT ROPE???
The Republicans are being deciptful………….if the people want a Federal Government that spends THREE TRILLION DOLLARS a year, then TAX the people THREE TRILLION DOLLARS per year….quit passing the bill on to future generations who Won’t pay it back.
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Sharon Rose
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:18pmIf Americans knew what was really in the proposal, we would be pi$$ed!
Stop with the pork and irresponsible spending.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:17pmThis graph is much to complicated for your typical Obama voter,if they read it their heads will explode from confusion so they shouldn’t read it. On second thought ALL of them should read it,the collective IQ of the country would soar.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:48pmThe tax increases closes the budget deficit by 6%. If we went with Obama’s original plan it would close it by maybe 7% (increase marginal rate for $250k & up). Obama was never serious about the deficit or the debt. That is criminal.
There was $1 in spending cuts for every $41 dollars of tax increases in the Senate compromise.
Putting America’s Tax Hike In Perspective
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-01/putting-americas-tax-hike-perspective
Fiscal Cliff Deal: $1 in Spending Cuts for Every $41 in Tax Increases
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/12/31/Fiscal-cliff-deal-41-1-in-tax-increases-to-spending-cuts-ratio
The Senate compromise is headed in the right direction in baby steps. But at that rate it will not head off the debt disaster in time
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And then there is this from the Monk
This Bill, HR8, was passed by the House back in Sept and Harry Reid has been sitting on it.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-112hr8eas/pdf/BILLS-112hr8eas.pdf
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Commentary from OlefromMN
“This Bill, HR8, was passed by the House back in Sept and Harry Reid has been sitting on it.”
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No, he has been “massaging” it to fit Obie’s platform. Every bill passed by the House is subject to the Senate’s pencil and eraser. It would take an astute House to send bills in a “pass as is” fashion.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:24pm@Progressive:
Enlightenment for those who do not wish to be enlightened by their own choice is difficult. The graph is truth presented in the simplest of means, and the easiest to comprehend, even for the low-information voters who supporters of Obama.
The main difference is they do not care.
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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:40pm@ Snow Sadly that’s the truth and I might add some want the destruction of our republic and actively work toward that end.
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Magyar
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:05pmI assure you that when the SHTF even the beneficiares of our public education will understand when the Ovomit govenment turns their backs and when they have empty stomachs and no way to protect themselves…..Then they’ll know the truth —too late…..
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OhioRifleman
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 1:07pm@ Magyar
They will continue to blame everyone but themselves and Odumbarse. It is the normalcy bias: they are programmed (literally) to believe that it is someone else’s fault, thus they will continue to blame everyone but themselves. Some of them even unto their dying breath will believe themselves in the right.
It is the way of the brainwashed.
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GREENDOG
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:16pmbarry is a bad joke.
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mudguy
Posted on January 2, 2013 at 1:41pmNo he is not a joke. You laugh at joke. What he is doing to our country is no laughing matter. has had too much help from the Rino Republicans.
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S-O-B-E-R
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:15pmPossible reason? Duh…
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MLeo
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:14pmThat is great diet inspiration right there. Takes both your breath and appetite away.
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chips1
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:14pmWhere is the graph showing the budget cuts?
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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:35pmBudget cuts…..that is what both parties are desperately trying to avoid
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Shasta
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 10:13pmLast I read, the politicians managed to squeeze more pork in the bill that is heading to the house. That was really fast. So to answer your question, the budget/spending cuts do not exist, in fact they will be increasing the deficit due to this one bill. I used to think that these ‘leaders’ were just stupid, but now I know that they all want to take this country down, hoping that they and a few other ‘elites’ will maintain power and riches when it is all over. I think a lot of these ‘leaders’ will end up in prison or worse.
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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:14pmWow, that’s a lot of red. Real question is, do you think this would be able to change anyone’s mind?
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:22pmProbably not, I wonder if the problems have become so manifestly large that no one really can grasp them and have for the most part, given up from being overwhelmed or in despair.
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nacilbuper
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:13pmThat’s what the “free health care, free cell phone, Obama gonna pay my mortgage, fill my gas tank” voted for. We are screwed!
Better listen to Glenn. He told us this was coming and now it is here!
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Glenn in Virginia
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:16pmYep, you’re right! I’ve been sayin’ it since 1964!
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nacilbuper
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:20pmWell then both of you!
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catty
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 7:40pmHe also said we would be using the euro a couple of years ago too
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Walkabout
Posted on January 1, 2013 at 8:23pmcatty
Your point? For a talk show host predicting the future if he gets it right 60 or 70% of the time, that is pretty good. He was talking about the stock market crashing in October & November of 2007. It started in October 2007, accelerated in October 2008 & bottomed in March 2009. How much can you predict when the government is using all sorts of levers & dials artificial doing things to the economy like quantitative easing (QE). ZeroHedge dot com has graphed the effects of each QE on the stock market. The stock market is rigged by the government. So it is much harder to predict on a normal timeline.
I don’t expect you to answer. You never do. You snipe with a snide comment & disappear. We could play cat & mouse.
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