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$76 Billion in Special Interest Tax Credits Snuck Into ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Bill?

Jan. 2, 2013 11:43pm
About $76 Billion in Special Interest Tax Credits Included in Fiscal Cliff Bill

Wind turbines dot the shoreline near Port Burwell, Ontario, Canada on Thursday, Nov. 22, 2012 as birds sit on the shoreline. Credit: AP

In addition to the tax hikes on the nation’s highest income earners, the “fiscal cliff” legislation also included $76 billion in special interest tax credits for General Electric, rum makers and even the Hollywood industry.

As the Washington Examiner’s Timothy Carney points out, “these subsidies weren’t the fruit of eleventh-hour lobbying conducted on the cliff’s edge — they were crafted back in August in a Senate committee, and they sat dormant until the White House reportedly insisted on them this week.”

The Family and Business Tax Cut Certainty Act of 2012, passed by the Senate Finance Committee in August, was reportedly put into the must-pass fiscal cliff bill nearly verbatim after it was considered stalled and just a “political document.”

Carney explains:

“[If] you’re wondering how algae subsidies became part of a must-pass package to avert the dreaded fiscal cliff, credit the Biotechnology Industry Organization’s lobbying last summer.

[…]

Here’s what happened: In late July, Finance Chairman Max Baucus announced the committee would soon convene to craft a bill extending many expiring tax credits. This attracted lobbyists like a raw steak attracts wolves.

Former Sens. John Breaux, D-La., and Trent Lott, R-Miss., a pair of rainmaker lobbyists, pleaded for extensions on behalf of a powerful lineup of clients.

General Electric and Citigroup, for instance, hired Breaux and Lott to extend a tax provision that allows multinational corporations to defer U.S. taxes by moving profits into offshore financial subsidiaries. This provision — known as the “active financing exception” — is the main tool GE uses to avoid nearly all U.S. corporate income tax.

Liquor giant Diageo also retained Breaux and Lott to win extensions on two provisions benefitting rum-making in Puerto Rico.

The Senate crammed in nearly 50 tax credit extensions into the Family and Business Tax Certainty Act of 2012 and the finance committee passed it 19 to 5. House Republicans expressed their hesitance to pass some of the extensions, particularly for green energy firms. So the bill sat on the shelf.

Then came the “fiscal cliff” emergency. A Republican aide familiar with negotiations told the Washington Examiner that the White House was “absolutely insistent” that the “exact language” of the previous tax extension bill.

“Sure enough, Title II of the fiscal cliff legislation is nearly a word-for-word replication of the Family and Business Tax Cut Certainty Act of 2012,” Carney writes.

“The legislators and the staff go underground when things get so intense,” another Hill staffer-turned-lobbyist told the Washington Examiner. “Nobody has time for a meeting. Nobody wants to talk about what’s going on. … The key is to plant the seed months in advance.”

Fox News reports that the fiscal cliff deal includes $12.1 billion in tax credits for the wind-energy industry alone.

ABC News provides a run down of some of the other tax gifts to special interest groups:

  • $430 million for Hollywood through “special expensing rules” to encourage TV and film production in the United States.  Producers can expense up to $15 million of costs for their projects.
  • $331 million for railroads by allowing short-line and regional operators to claim a tax credit up to 50 percent of the cost to maintain tracks that they own or lease.
  • $222 million for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands through returned excise taxes collected by the federal government on rum produced in the islands and imported to the mainland.
  • $70 million for NASCAR by extending a “7-year cost recovery period for certain motorsports racing track facilities.”
  • $59 million for algae growers through tax credits to encourage production of “cellulosic biofuel” at up to $1.01 per gallon.
  • $4 million for electric motorcycle makers by expanding an existing green-energy tax credit for buyers of plug-in vehicles to include electric motorbikes.

It’s unclear whether all lawmakers even knew what they were voting for as the Senate reportedly voted in favor of the cliff legislation just three minutes after receiving it.

To read Carney’s full report, click here.

 

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Comments (67)

  • Tigress1
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:24am

    God, please help me be grateful for your many blessings that you have given me. Obama says I’m rich and can afford to pay thousands more, but I can’t help but think of the many material things that I want. Help me to be less selfish. I don’t really need:
    1. to replace my old, worn-out warped countertops. After all, the gov. needs $500,000 for a WW1 statue in France!
    2. to replace my hideous carpet upstairs. The gov. needs $951,500 for “green” streetlights in Detroit!
    3. to build a patio roof to have some shade in the summer. The gov. needs $1,200,000 to build an Undersea Exploration Center.
    4. to update my light fixtures. The gov. needs $900,000 to update it’s planetarium projector in Chicago.
    5. to get my **** cut every 6 weeks instead of using my scissors to extend the time before I need to go to SuperCuts. The gov. needs $1.24 million to control tree snakes in Guam.
    6. to buy my husband a big, fancy TV that are all the rage in the ghetto. The gov. needs $15 million for a “gift” to Ireland.
    7. to buy some more expensive sneakers because my feet hurt. The gov. needs $3.8 million to rescue part of a stadium for “memories”
    8. to buy fruit more often even though it’s expensive. The gov. needs to give money to the Muslim Brotherhood.
    God, please help me be less self-centered, accept the things I cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference. Amen.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/the-worst-pork-of-2010-2010-4?op=1

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  • PlanetReality
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:05am

    Well folks HOW LIBERAL???????
    As long as the big oil companies pay more which rises our gas prices but keep giving tax breaks to green that cost this country billions!!!!!!!
    Yes indeed BACKWARDS as the more left we go!!!!!
    QUESTION WHERE IS THE RIGHT????? ! on blogs when VOICES SHOULD BE MARCHING IN WASHINGTON!!!!!

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    • lovenfl3
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:11am

      I hear you, but I can tell you where the right was. Just ask Trent Lott (R) who was lobbying for the GE tax breaks. Or how about Peter King and Chris Christie crying about the failure to pass the Sandy relief bill…..even though it’s filled with pork. Unfortunately, both sides lack any real concern over the national debt. They’re far too busy buying votes. It’s sad but true?
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn7HlDqK3VM

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  • retiredfire
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:14am

    Sorry, fellow Blazers, can’t muster outrage for this.
    Most of these look like tax credits for businesses.
    Tax credits mean less taxes paid and, since businesses don’t really pay any taxes (they’re just passed on to the consumer) it means lower costs for us, or higher profits – something I don’t think is bad.
    Of course, because politicians refuse to stay within their income limits and end up borrowing or taxing the individual more, it comes out badly for us but maybe the more individuals are taxed, the sooner they will rebel and vote in fiscal conservatives.
    My outrage is reserved for schemes that put money into the pockets of individuals, who should be taking care of themselves.

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:27am

      “This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
      – Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913

      “Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
      – Theodore Roosevelt

      “When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States DID NOT PERCEIVE that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed (Reserve) to CONCEAL its powers but the truth is — the Fed has usurped the government!”
      – Congressman Louis McFadden

      “The REAL TRUTH of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has OWNED the GOVERNMENT since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
      – President FD Roosevelt (1933-1945)

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Here is some info on the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLe02uld_0

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    • starman70
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:51am

      My outrage is that government subsidizes any one business while taxing the hell out of others. This bill is a prime example of why we need to clean house in Washington.

      This bill should have been a stand alone bill. Any subsidies for any other purpose should have been handled seperately.

      A subsidity for Hollywood? Are you surprised? Obama’s personal funding mechanism? Yeah, they really need subsidies.

      Green Energy? So far every company which has recieved money from this administration has gone broke. Of course, much of the money was recycled – - – back to re-election coffers.

      Subsidies for Rum producers in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands? Another case of picking and choosing one producer over another. How about whiskey and wine producers?

      The list of picking and choosing goes on and on. We can’t forget the cost to the taxpayers of the “Government Motors” fiasco. The taxpayers got the shaft on that one. “Government Motors” buys back stock from the government at a price far less than the government paid for it, and who makes up the difference? You guessed it! The taxpayers!

      Get the government out of the business community and let capitalism determine the winners and losers.

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    • ReddirtOkie
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:56am

      You can’t express outrage at this? Sweet Old Boehner (SOB for short) slipped us a bonener on this. With no spending cuts, if he caves on the debt limit without significant spending cuts, we are totally screwed. I’m so pissed at this it woke me at 4AM this morning. If BHO wants to chastize the Republicans in his State of the Union Address, the entire Republican delegation should stand, give him a Joe Wilson “You Lie” and add a one finger salute and a Boehner to Reed expletive and walk out. On the way out , knock over his telepromter and see if the thrill of Mathews runs down his leg. If the house controls the purse strings, pass a bill with the spending cuts, no compromise, and if he won’t do it then shut the place down. We damn sure won’t be any worse off. For those that saved their confederate money, suprise, the dollar is soon to be worth as much. Think I will join the Tea Party Superpac and invite all Blaze readers to come along. From the reddest of the red states, we had only one OK rep vote against this bill. Yeah, he is a Tea Party guy.

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  • piper60
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:19am

    No wonder GE has moved so much of its operations over to China. Tax credits for outsourcing. Geeeee, what a concept!!! Typical.

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  • Ghandi was a Republican
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:31am

    So- I can claim my pond out back as an algae facility and collect $1.01 a Gallon? Do I have to donate to obama?

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  • lassiegirldawn
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:01am

    People get a clue, the politicians do not write these bills, the lobbyists do. Why do you think that Nancy said you have to pass the bill to know what is in the bill. After the lobbyist write the bills the aids read them (sometimes) and tell the politicians what is in them. When we vote a politician in, look up which lobbyists, they are connected with and you will see who you really voted in. I know this because I have been privy to some of these back room deals.

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:47am

      Which is why they should READ THEM before voting .. and what about them being posted so that WE CAN READ THEM TOO … I seem to recall BHO promising that .. yea right!

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  • lassiegirldawn
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:54am

    That is just part of the paybacks that we are going to have to pay for this commie in chief. I you think this is bad, how many more obama phones do you think are going to be given away. These people will riot, if they don’t get the free stuff that you and I have to work to pay for.

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  • The-Monk
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:34am

    I’d like to see a list of everyone who did this.

    I already know “why” they did it…. : (

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    • MisterSarcastic
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:35am

      House: http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll659.xml
      Senate: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=112&session=2&vote=00251

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:40am

      Thank You MisterSarcastic !!!!!

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    • MisterSarcastic
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:46am

      You’re welcome. See, I’m not always sarcastic.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:51am

      Are any of you guys hot-shots wit hcomputers? I can’t open links with IE! Goes to “about blank” page.

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:56am

      They don’t even read these bills before they vote on them. You know how easy it would be to throw in a removel of any our rights like the 1st and 2nd amendment. This has got to stop.

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    • MisterSarcastic
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:57am

      Try a reboot. That’s the full extent of my computer repair knowledge.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:57am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      Yep, I am. What version of IE do you have. Left click on help and then on about.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:09am

      Hi MisterSarcastic,
      “Try a reboot. That’s the full extent of my computer repair knowledge.”

      Then you’ll love this. Look up “youtube sales guy vs web dude”.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:10am

      Vista!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:12am

      Hi Civilwarcometh,

      All too easy. Look up Obama’s Job Act (whitehouse website) and start reading page at 133.

      They already tried it on the 11th.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:16am

      Monk…
      It goes to error message when I click on any link. I close the EM twice to get rid of it, then it goes to the “about blank” page.
      BTW, when I LC’d on help then ‘about IE’ (is that what you meant?), it says windows explorer 9. Is that Vista?

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:21am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      Open up IE, left click on tools, the internet options, (check what you have listed as you home page) then the advanced tab, then on reset, then on reset again. DO NOT check the box to delete personal setting. When done close IE down and restart it.

      If you want to have a better experience at The Blaze, download Mozilla Firefox and then install Ghostery after firefox. You should run Combofix to check for malware.

      http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/products/download.html?
      http://www.ghostery.com/download
      http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:23am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      I’m waiting for the instructions to post….

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    • Polarized America
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:26am

      DECENDENTOF56………i had the same problem with IE, so much so that i stopped using it.

      but it may be a Privacy setting or even cookies ……. but hey, what do i know ;(

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:27am

      Ahh! Anyway… before I go to bed, I just wanted to say how beautiful those 3 wind-turbines are. its just something about a shoreline and turbines!

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:28am

      Check for a (word press error) that’s what happened to me on here. It’s the reason i am now civilwarcometh instead of UNHATER couldn’t fix it. my friend said it has do with this wesite….

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:36am

      @MONK: thank you my friend.. This is messed up on so many levels.http://www.theblaze.com/stories/what-you%E2%80%99re-not-hearing-about-the-new-jobs-bill-it-overrides-state%E2%80%99s-rights/

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:38am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      OK, they are blocking it. I’ll try this separately.

      Open IE9, left click on tools (or the white gear looking symbol in the upper right), check your home page while there, then left click on the advanced tab, then on reset, then reset again. DO NOT check the box to delete personal settings. Shut IE down when finished and restart IE.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:41am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      For a better experience on The Blaze use Mozilla Firefox. Install it and then download and install Ghostery for Mozilla. Download and run Combofix from bleepingcomputers to clear away any malware.

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:45am

      Hi Civilwarcometh,

      Yep, that’s a story I gave them. I send in all kinds of stuff. Some actually get stories posted.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:49am

      Monk….
      Very slooooow, too. I have 50M download speeds with FiOS. Never had any trouble with this machine. I keep it as clean as possible and stay out of the dirty sites as much as you can tell.
      Thanx for the help…..really!

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:52am

      Hi Civilwarcometh,

      You might have seen me asking for links to the Bill Congress just passed. I don’t read the Bills I do word searches. On that Bill when I did a search for “abroga” I found “abrogation” and then read that part. That’s the only way to find things in 2700 page Bills. I used to have a word search list but forgot to back it up before formatting and reinstalling my PC. Need to make a new one. : (

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:02am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      No problem. Ask me for computer help anytime. I enjoy helping people. Let me know how it goes. You do know the easy way to find right? http://www.theblaze.com/users/the-monk/

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:31am

      Monk….
      No, I didn’t know you could find a persons comments that way.
      Oh..thanx for the help. It is much better now! Seems to be back to its old self.
      Actually, once i started to go through the repair steps, things I learned on my second tour of duty with a high-speed division of Verizon (I know, thats an oxymoron) helped me walk right through. I seemed to have done an upgrade of IE.
      Thanks again…Dec of 56

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    • The-Monk
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:46am

      Hi Decendentof56,

      Glad to be of help. Just click on a users name to see the last 10 posts. : )

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  • MisterSarcastic
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:33am

    Notice to all South Carolina voters:
    The only Republican in SC to vote for this barrel of pork is our good Senator, Lindsay Graham. He’s up in ’14.

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  • Chromo200
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:24am

    And Christie can’t figure out why we are pissed at congress.

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    • civilwarcometh
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:58am

      Because he is a progressive who has fooled the people into thinking he is a conserv.

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    • YAHSHUARULES
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:13am

      Much more then congress is at fault -
      . Once there is control of teacher’s unions, education colleges this becomes self perpetuating you remake the country in the schools rather then by throwing bombs. Your children in government schools 7hrs a day for 13 years being indoctrinated with anti-American, anti-God, anti-capitalism. Journalists now trained to interpret events and not report facts. Teachers union supports forcing every child to attend public school.

      Our enemies can see our morality is our greatest strength. Freedom – Free Enterprise is fruit on the Tree of Morality. Marx was at war with God, sought to dethrone god and deify man. Family falls part, church looses influence and a free people’s government collapses. The Ideas that made America great and unique came straight out of the bible.

      Founders understood this principle and so do our enemies.

      “Out Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other” John Adams

      I have watched it 12X to absorb all that is in it!
      This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this
      together. Watch it. Share it. Arrange a showing in church, groups, clubs, with friends or family. Everyone who loves America needs to see this movie,
      It is free on line for the moment

      https://vimeo.com/52009124
      If America goes down, the free world will go down with it and it will be finished for a very, very long time…

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:46am

      Yahsuarules….. Yes, it is a great movie! I saw it this past summer for the first time, and just bought a copy and watched it two more times. It now is at my like-minded daughter’s in Maine. She did say some thing the other day that bothered me. She referred to something about “not getting too absorbed” (in all the problems), or something like that.
      She is 45, and seems to have a good grasp of what we are facing. Maybe she is worried about me. I hope she takes this as serious as I do. I’am a descendent of one of the signers of the DOI, and I guess patriotic blood runs very deep in me.
      My great-great-great, etc had to hide from the British after signing. We are in for times which are, I’m afraid to say, most people don’t understand. I’m doing so much research on the forces moving us towards GHW Bush’s NWO that my head is going to explode!
      There are so many NGO’s, environmental groups, and sustainable development forces attacking, and lining up to attack, that I’m afraid we will not be able to stop it.
      The problem as I see it is that these forces have organized and refined their tactics to the point that we don’t understand how to counter-attack.
      He**, even the bicycling group Thunderhead Alliance is in on it. Cycling paths, walkways, etc. These people are all over. Look at their website. They are getting rid of one car and the other peddles the infants in a pull-behind cart…..in Denver! They think they are saving the planet! Nuts!

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  • USA-Ron
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:23am

    congress is a gallery of Baboons,

    just do what they want,

    NOT want those that elected them want

    You are Fired !!!!!!!!

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  • yougottabekidding
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:09am

    Now who would have suspected such a thing would happen ???????????
    Living in a third world country is great soon we will have large pictures of the most exalted leader along our HI ways with his head turned and cocked to the sky as all great leaders of third world countries do!
    It was never about anything but make believe and lining pockets.

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    • carbonyes
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:37am

      Yes, the Narcissist and Solipsist-in-Chief, and the Emperor in his underwear. Few on the left ore the right miss his beguiling expressions or deceptive ways. Doubt very seriously that he will escape the wrath of the Living God, for although his ascendency to his lofty position was permitted by God Himself, but his arrogance and self aggrandizement and self exultation may not too soon find him decaying from the inside – not all that different from King Herod of biblical times. Though the Obamameister may indeed be an instrument of God’s wrath, even God has His limits on what He is able to tolerate among mankind’s fools and tyrannical oligarchs.

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  • Polarized America
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:08am

    Anyone remember the TV commercial with that guy with Question marks all over his Suit ?
    He claimed to know the secret on how to get Money out of Gov’t
    Makes me wonder ????????????????????????????????????????????

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  • Chrison
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:06am

    Screwed again!

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  • spirited
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:04am

    President Obama has obviously spent four years going “line by line” AND removed the pork too.
    Lobbying and special interests don’t influence
    Nope; not on his watch. Not in his White House. Not part of his fundamental change.
    He’s responsible; unlike President Bush.

    >It’s been on C-SPAN; daily –don’t cha know.

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  • DadRocked
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:04am

    Interesting how they have had over a year with knowledge of this ‘deadline’ and needed to ‘push’ it through. Within 24hrs, WE THE PEOPLE know what it comprises.

    Oh, I can find algae for no cost, so their tax credit; “$59 million for algae growers through tax credits to encourage production of “cellulosic biofuel” at up to $1.01 per gallon” makes me laugh…

    Why do we not trust or believe so so many of them down the street on the hill? DUH

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  • zetuff
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:02am

    allen west was rite… to many commies in the white house..wait till they all vote to disarm america,, and open borders… muslims will come in by the millions just like in europe …and america wont be able to stop it..

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    • asybot12
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:11am

      That’s why I left Europe years ago. And today sadly enough no-one in North America learned the lesson that Europe now has to live with.
      And coming to a place near you.

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  • decendentof56
    Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:01am

    Ahhh! Those GE bonds will do well now!
    I almost forgot the railroads. How are we going to have those Sustainable Transit Villages without rails?
    Electric M/C’s……I’ve been reading about them in my M/C mags for 3 years. Let’s face it motorcycles ‘do’ only get 40-75 MPG and are low polluters, so lets replace them with battery bikes, which will use more elec trying to keep them charged than they will save.

    Did they give anything to The Thunderhead Alliance? You gotta admit…..they are “green.” Those panty-boys really turn my wife on! hahahahahahaha! not!

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    • yougottabekidding
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:13am

      Don’t forget no pipeline: railroads will carry oil in. Warren Buffets railroads.
      Strange how that works out.

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:25am

      Yep! Just like the Rockefellers, Vanderbilts, etc.

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    • Obama_Sham
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:29am

      “Don’t forget no pipeline: railroads will carry oil in. Warren Buffets railroads.”

      Well… He does need extra money to keep fighting his back tax bill…

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  • SUNTZU
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:53pm

    Snuck Um All

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  • SUNTZU
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:53pm

    Hope and change
    Forward
    Bend over
    Kiss your a$$ goodby

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  • IndyGuy
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 11:51pm

    When are Americans going to finally march on D.C. and use tar and feathers on all of them???

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    • SUNTZU
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:01am

      On April 15
      we should send a box of the same STUFF they have been trying
      to feed us.
      Send to
      Resident Washington DC

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    • Psychosis
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:02am

      we are passed tar and feathers

      have we passed lifetime sentence on a chain gang breaking rocks ????

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    • decendentof56
      Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:22am

      Indy…..
      Really….I almost wish I had not started to read and investigate all the forces working to bring about the NWO.
      Electric m/c’s? Really? My bikes get 40-52 mpg! Are battery bikes neccessary?
      Everyone here has to understand that the environmentalists /social-equity/ equal-outcome/ sustainable development (UN agenda21) / bike path/ high-density/ communitarianism (Communism) movement is huge beyond your wildest imagination.
      Read Nien Cheng’s “Life and Death in Shanghai”. All attempts at stopping Sustainable Development are stopped by facilitators. Cheng wrote of “struggle meetings” used by the Chi-Coms to break down society.
      Some might say…what’s this have to do with spending? I’ll tell Ya!
      The money for algae growers replaces gasoline , electric motorcycles replace ones which use gas, railroads replace cars, which use gas (and will be the new people-movers), and Hollywood will continue to degrade our society with their filth.
      These 4 components are all part of Agenda 21. I’m not going to type it all out. As GB says….do your own research.

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