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Here Are Some of the Winners & Losers From Last Night’s ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Deal

The House voted 257-167 Tuesday to pass the Senate-backed “Job Protection and Recession Prevention Act of 2012.” For all intents and purposes, the bill steers the country away from the so-called “fiscal cliff,” a combination of year-end spending cuts and tax increases that would have gone into effect had Congress failed to act.

But now that this hastily written bill has passed both chambers, here’s a question: Who won and who lost?

We’re glad you asked. That’s what we’re here for. Below are some of the winners and losers from last night’s “fiscal cliff” vote:

Winner: The Wind-energy Industry

The “fiscal cliff” bill includes a one-year extension of tax credits for the wind-energy industry that will “cost taxpayers an estimated $12.1 billion,” Fox News reports.

“The extension was part of a tax-extender package that the Senate Finance Committee approved in August and was included in the final package that Congress approved before sending it to the president,” the report notes.

“Congressional Republicans and other fiscal conservatives opposed the extension, arguing the deal between Congress and the White House was supposed to include cuts to federal spending, not additional subsidies for alternative-energy programs,” it adds.

Winner: Hollywood

Despite the fact that Hollywood already receives millions of dollars in federal subsidies, last night’s bill funnels even ​more ​in filmmakers’ direction:

Who Won & Lost With Last Nights Fiscal Cliff Deal?Originally, the subsidy was supposed to encourage small, independent films to stay in the U.S. But that changed of course:

The original tax incentive applied to productions costing less than $15 million to make ($20 million in low-income areas). The 2008 extension applies to all films, up to a deduction of $15 million (or $20 million in low-income areas). The incentive is especially generous to television series; it applies to each TV episode.

“Apparently, this sucker costs the American taxpayer about $150 million per year,” writes Mike Masnick for techdirt.

“Yes,” he adds, “this was just one of many such ‘pork’ efforts slipped into the fiscal cliff deal … it’s stories like this that explain why so few people trust Congress, and why they’re fed up with “crony capitalism.”

Winner: Rum

Who Won & Lost With Last Nights Fiscal Cliff Deal?

Yes, booze. Via the Washington Post:

Another longstanding item—this one dates back to 1917. Congress currently levies an excise tax worth $13.50 per gallon on all rum produced in or imported to the United States. Most of that money is transferred to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, who use the revenue to support their rum industries. In 2009, this tax raised some $547 million. The cliff deal would extend the current arrangement another year. (By the way, Puerto Rico’s non-voting representative in the House, Pedro Pierluisi, thinks this tax set-up is too favorable to rum distillers.)

Winner: Goldman Sachs

Even Goldman Sachs (yes, ​that ​Goldman Sachs) came out on top with the “fiscal cliff” bill.

“Section 328 of the bill extends tax-exempt financing for the ‘Liberty Zone,’ the area around the former World Trade Center, for another year,” the Washington Post reports.

“[T]his tax provision was supposed to help fund reconstruction after 9/11. Yet a recent Bloomberg investigation found the bonds have mostly helped finance new luxury apartments, not to mention the construction of Goldman Sachs’ new headquarters.”

“Developers say the bonds were necessary to revitalize downtown Manhattan, but there’s a fierce debate over how they’ve been used,” the report adds.

Losers: Conservatives

Per the conservative news site CNSNews.com and the Republican Study Committee, there are several reasons for the right to be upset over last night’s vote. In fact, there are at least a dozen:

First, the bill supports the “Death Tax”:

After many years of effort, conservatives succeeding in eliminating the death tax for one year, 2010. This legislation would permanently reestablish the death tax at a 40% rate with a $5 million exemption.

Second, conservatives argue the bill penalizes marriage:

The new permanent tax brackets set at $400,000 for single individuals and $450,000 for families would continue to penalize married Americans as the bracket for married filers is not set at twice the amount of the single bracket. Many conservatives fought for tax reforms in 2001 and 2003 that eliminated the marriage penalty for lower-income filers, and hold that the principle of equal treatment for income of married and single taxpayers should be universal, not only for certain income groups.

Lastly, it delays spending cuts from the Budget Control Act:

Some conservatives may be concerned that H.R. 8 would delay FY 2013 sequestration for two months. The cost of that delay would be offset by lowering the discretionary spending caps for FY 2013 and 2014 and through increased short-term revenue by allowing 401(k) to Roth IRA conversions. Some conservatives expressed concern at the time of passage of the Budget Control Act that it exchanged an immediate increase in the debt limit in exchange for future spending cuts that may not occur. Similar concerns may arise here as additional current spending is offset by unspecified future spending cuts.

Click here to see CNSNews’ complete list of why conservatives lost last night.

Losers: The Taxpayers

This is really all you need to know: Regardless of your income bracket, your taxes are going to go up.

“The bill that passed the Senate and the House did not reinstate the payroll tax holiday that has been around for the past two years. So even though income taxes aren’t going up for most people, actual take home pay will be going down,” Walter Hickey writes for Business Insider.

“In order to aid the recovery Congress and the White House cut the payroll tax from 6.2 percent for all workers to 4.2 percent for all workers effective 2011,” he adds. “The deal that was reached did not renew that, so everyone’s taxes are going up.”

The following graph illustrates how the deal will affect your taxes:

Who Won & Lost With Last Nights Fiscal Cliff Deal?

An explanation of the graph via BI:

The column under the red arrow tells you how many more dollars taxpayers in that income bracket can expect to pay as a result of the payroll tax holiday expiration.

The column under the blue arrow shows how much your effective tax rate increased. If that number is less than two points you’re not affected by the President’s plan to raise taxes on upper income Americans. If that number is less than two for your income bracket, that is just the impact of the payroll tax holiday’s scheduled end. The total average rate increase is 1.8 percent.

The column under the green arrow shows the average effective federal tax rate for members of each income bracket. The total average effective federal tax rate is 21.7 percent.

And in case you were wondering, here’s a complete list of the 85 Republicans who voted “yes” to the Senate-backed measure:

House Votes ‘Yes’ on The Senate’s ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Bill

Here’s a complete list of the Republican’s who voted against the bill (along with those who didn’t vote at all):

Complete list of Republicans who voted against the ‘Job Protection and Recession Prevention Act of 2012.’

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Comments (79)

  • berlet98
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:44pm

    Have a Happily Insane New Year!

    The year 2012 in America wasn’t all that happy, except for President Barack Hussein Obama.
    2012 was rife with insanities affecting virtually every sector of American life from our social fabric to our judiciary to our weather to the political arena to professional sports–quite a spectrum!
    And 2013 doesn’t look much better.
    Based on the New Year’s Day abject surrender by John Boehner’s Republican House of Representatives to Harry Reid’s Democrat Senate, thereby acquiescing to an exercise in fiscal lunacy which will reduce the nation’s out-of-control spending by all of $1. in exchange for every $41. tax increase, (a pittance of $15 billion in spending cuts versus $620 billion in taxes), in a country already burdened with over $16 trillion in national debt and a 2012 federal budget debt of $1.2 trillion.
    Insane!
    One suspects the inmates are clearly in charge of America’s asylum in 2013 just as they evidently ran things in 2012.
    The insane killings in Aurora, Colorado, the insane ratification of Obamacare by the Supreme Court, the insane violence of non-hurricane Sandy, the insanity of reelecting a president dedicated to bankrupting and destroying what remains of our great country, the insanity of the Sandy Hook massacre all posed formidable challenges to any sense of optimism for our future as a unified people and as a sane country confident in our future.
    Responses to those atrocities? Literally insane.

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    • Brother Winston Smith
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 9:57pm

      It’s a good thing the republican party reelected Obama, with ANOTHER “better evil” scam.

      Who’s up for 2016′s “better evil?” Boehner?

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  • Jim S
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:41pm

    …as long as we look at our elected officials as being players in a win/lose competition…we all lose…maybe next time…

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    • Lamarr01
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 7:31pm

      It’s more than a win/lose situation.

      The following procedure was used to get enough votes in the senate to pass.

      1) Count all the votes in favor.
      2) Make a list of senators who might be bought.
      3) For each senator,
      3.1) Ask what it will take to get them to vote in favor.
      3.2 Get Obama’s handlers to agree to the payback.
      3.3 Threaten the senator with:
      3.3.1 Loss of committee chairmanship
      3.3.2 Release of embarrassing email-FBI Reports-IRS-etc.
      3.3.3 Remind of previous illegal activity
      3.3.4 Fix the primary for the next election.
      4) Continue until their are enough votes.
      5) Pass the bill before special interest or the American public can read it.

      To get the bill passed in the House:
      1) Prepare the media to blame the Republicans for everything.
      2) Delay negotiations until a holiday just before the deadline.
      3) Conduct negotiations behind closed doors.
      4) Insist on an up-or-down vote
      5) Threaten the Speaker of the House
      5.1) Remind of email or illegal activity
      5.2) Get donors/lobbyists to apply pressure
      5.3) Remind of political threat of the TEA PARTY and conservative majority
      5) Isolate the group against the bill
      6) Isolate the group that might vote in favor of the bill.
      6.1) Offer inducements such as committee chairmanships.
      6.1) Remind the Congressman he/she will be blamed for the tax increase.
      6.2) Remind the Congressman he/she will be blamed for the economic collapse.
      7) Congressman will make the safe vote.

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  • Angel98315
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:55pm

    All those who voted yes for this bill really want to be replaced. This is just their way of letting everyone know that they want to be replaced. So someone in their constituency should work towards helping them out with that.

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:09pm

      Winner: Hollywood
      Who’s surprised? http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

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    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:14pm

      Winner: Goldman Sachs

      Who’s surprised? Lloyd C. Blankfein – Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer; Gary D. Cohn – President and Chief Operating Officer; John S. Weinberg– Vice Chairman; Michael S. Sherwood – Vice Chairman; David A. Viniar – Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer….

      Progressive Jews… fact not anti-anything.

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  • BODYBAG
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:31pm

    @FREE_THOUGHT
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:20pm
    Fishbone was one of my favorite bands when i was a kid.
    —————————–
    Last week?

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    • Gold Coin & Economic News
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:57pm

      The payroll tax holiday was complete BS in the first place. No one Democrat or Republican should have ever voted for it because it was nothing more than a vote garnering bill in to begin with. The Payroll tax is the only thing that funds Social Security that is broke as can be so who’s brilliant idea was it to actually **** the funding for a program that is already broke? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

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  • Free_Thought
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:20pm

    Its not ignorance my dear friend. Those are truths. Being ignorant to the fact that conservativism is winding down is ignorance.

    But good job on the screen name. Fishbone was one of my favorite bands when i was a kid.

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  • ArmedAndReallyPissed
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:05pm

    You spelled AMERIKANS wrong, dumbass.

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  • FISH_BONE
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:59pm

    Ignorance is bliss.

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  • ArmedAndReallyPissed
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:56pm

    All the WINNERS should be the LOSERS and Vice Versa. As Usual, everything is assbackwards. On the bright side, Samuel L. Jackson and Jamie Foxx thank those in Congress for supporting them and their Industry while we Amerikans pay for that support..
    AmeriKa asked for it, and we are getting it.
    Who’s in your Wallet.

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  • Chet Hempstead
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:48pm

    Winners: all real Americans when internal dissension finally eradicates the threat of the Republican Party forever, and a new Congress with an overwhelming Democratic majority is free to govern in the interests of the people instead of the plutocrats.

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    • TIMEBOMB
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:02pm

      I appreciate all the hard work that simpletons like you and many millions have put forth to put me into power. With your help I will create a communist country here in the old usa,I’ll trash the constitution and bill of rights and my police state will keep me in power as long as I wish. As for all the useful idiots who helped me along the way,when I seize absolute power your usefulness will be no longer required. Having done your function you’ll all be eliminated,no loose ends. Praise be to me BHO.

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    • DRed
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:06pm

      There was not one thing done here that was in the interest of the American people! The lack of common sense is staggering! Useful idiots abound!

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    • Popp40
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:12pm

      @ Timebomb….to bad all of Obama’s supporters will be too dumb to realize he will be the one cutting their throats. Obama will just have the MSM tell them that it is those evil Republicans (granted those that voted for this bill have proven they are nothing but RINOs) are the ones doing it and the whole time Obama will be laughing at everyone.

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    • richauthor
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:46pm

      You are actually too much of a twit to understand this, but I’ll try… If you think that passing every piece of liberal legislation introduced by Obama, Reid, or Pelosi WITHOUT reading it is democratic representation, then you have no idea about what you write.

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 6:44pm

      Chet.. could not agree more!

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  • Glennda
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:46pm

    Why so anti-business? Oh, wait, I know, they don’t make chicken sandwiches.

    Glennda  
  • DEFCON4
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:42pm

    More spending, I can only imagine, how happy the “chi-coms” are with this news…..

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  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:37pm

    Our Marxist POS president and RINO congress increased spending in a recession,they’re simply rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. The republic and the constitution lost.

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    • ArmedAndReallyPissed
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:16pm

      Crappy New Year Slayer.

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    • qualityrkc
      Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:31am

      Giving money to banks and hollywood is not marxism pal. It is actually called crony capitalism which is the inevitable endpoint of any capitalist system. All roads lead to fascism.

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  • TIMEBOMB
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:30pm

    I won I built this and you serfs can call it the Obama depression,green energy won,it doesn’t work and never will but I can waste billions of your dollars on it. Hollywood won,they can continue being my propagandists spewing lies that you idiots will lap up like starving pigs.The losers are the taxpayers,the constitutionalists who believe in limited government and America. I will destroy the American economy and the constitution,the middle class will be gone and the collective will be the order of the day. People cry poverty in this country and they have flat screens and O phones and welfare and ‘free’ health care. I deceived you because I’m a Marxist and it’s all built on lies but you’re about to experience the truth,the hard way and you will know true poverty.Praise be to me BHO.

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:41pm

      I hope you have a nice time in Hawaii while I work my ass off to pay for your continued vacation you Marxist POS.

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    • SCREW-WINDOWS
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:47pm

      Gee I’m glad this is finally over now we can get back to the laser focus of JOBS.
      Not!!!

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    • pap pap
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:48pm

      Right on TIMEBOMB

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      pap pap  
  • FISH_BONE
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:30pm

    Barraaack Hussein Obama the POS Kenyan Marxist may have won a victory but any way you sice it, he is still a total and complete loser.

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  • girlnurse
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:29pm

    This is hard to watch day after day after day after day after day after day after day…..The communism train is going forward…like a slow moving train. Questions:

    1. Who will stand up for America and our freedoms?
    2. Is Glenn “really” with us?
    3.How much of what the lying media tells us is true?
    4.Where are the men and militias?
    5.So we are told to stand down because they “want us” to rise up wo they can squash us…so does that mean we just sit here and watch them destroy our freedoms and grow their socialist plan until it is complete?
    6. Is ANYBODY working behind the scenes to stop the madness?
    7. If God is for us, who can be against us?? Tho He slay me, still I will trust Him. By faith and NOT by sight we trust HIM and HIM alone…

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    • Cavallo
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:50pm

      I’ll try, but I’ll admit I am quite jaded with it all:

      1. Who will stand up for America and our freedoms? – If not you and I, then no one.
      2. Is Glenn “really” with us? – On many important levels, No.
      3.How much of what the lying media tells us is true? – I’d say they tell enough lies to frame the truth in their light. True honest truth? 10%
      4.Where are the men and militias? – Hiding, disorganized.
      5.So we are told to stand down because they “want us” to rise up wo they can squash us…so does that mean we just sit here and watch them destroy our freedoms and grow their socialist plan until it is complete? – Most of our freedoms are already gone. There isn’t one aspect of your life that isn’t regulated, mitigated, subjugated, and manipulated by the central authority in Washington.
      6. Is ANYBODY working behind the scenes to stop the madness? – I fear not. They’re likely CYAs.
      7. If God is for us, who can be against us?? Tho He slay me, still I will trust Him. By faith and NOT by sight we trust HIM and HIM alone… – God will not save us. God did not save the Chinese, nor the Jews, nor the Cambodians, nor the Armenians. You can only have faith that your soul will find a better place after the State murders you and your family.

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    • OhioRifleman
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:00pm

      1. When pushed enough, the common man will return the favor. We have not yet reached that point.
      2. The answer is both ‘yes’ and ‘no’ in his case. Yes, he is with us, no, in that he cannot push as hard as we all want him to. He is a big target, and if he pushes too hard, they will destroy him.
      3. The way you asked that question is all the answer you need.
      4. You can ask, but you will never get a clear answer. (addendum: see question 1′s answer.)
      5. Again, you answered your own question, albeit indirectly.
      6. Unknown. If they are behind the scenes, they are by definition not visible to us.
      7. God sides with who He will. What we do, we do for ourselves, our honor, our freedoms. Granted, I would not mind His help in coming times, but I have learned that the first and foremost assistance a man can receive is by his own hand.

      Patience is its own weapon when used correctly. Make it a cornerstone of your arsenal, and these questions will have answers before they are asked.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:58pm

      Soooo good! I wasn’t really expecting answers but those are good. Especially the last one…no God will not save us from the hand of evil man…he didn’t save Abel who died at the hand of Cain. He didn’t save Bathshebas husband who was an honorable man fighting in the war when King Davids lust got the best of him. No God may not save us in this world but I believe He WILL grant us mercy in His Kingdom. This IS the “blessed hope”. There is always a counterfit to good original…..Believe it or not Obama is what some people have “hope” in. It makes me sad…if it makes you sad..you are human…this is our human condition..as tough as it is…..
      “Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin”. Hebrews 12:4

      We have NOT resisted unto blood against this government yet either……
      Socialism at its end is communism
      Communism is evil.
      Read “Tortured for Christ” by Richard Wurmbrand

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iZajLGoNws8

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:05pm

      Here is a better one. This guys is my hero. 17 years in communist concentration camp.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bqdPkDPMCwk

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    • qualityrkc
      Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:33am

      Girl I dont think you know what communism is. This bill is an example of crony capitolism not communism.

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  • FANGS
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:28pm

    Who’s ready to throw Democrats out by force?

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:30pm

      Every single day the Chocolate Dicatator openly MOCKS this nation and its citizens

      Barry Left town without signing the bill!
      http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/02/will-white-house-use-autopen-again-to-sign-fiscal-cliff-bill/

      Senators Got 154-Page ‘Fiscal Cliff’ Bill 3 Minutes Before Voting on It
      http://cnsnews.com/news/article/senators-got-154-page-fiscal-cliff-bill-3-minutes-voting-it

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:33pm

      What about the RINO Republicans? Are you still believing the Right/Left fantasy?

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    • Glennda
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:45pm

      FANGS . . .Are you? Are you ready to throw the Democrats out by force? Not only are you not willing to do it, you’re not willing to SAY it for fear of some reprisal. That’s the rub with all this revolution bravado from the right – all smoke, no fire.

      Glennda  
    • mrunner
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:58pm

      The likes of glennda and other communists of the like crack me up. Always looking for the conservative response to immediately turn to what they understand. No glennda, we are not all going to go out and crap on police cars, sleep in the park, stick needles in our arms and cry out for the government to pay for our irresponsibility. The fact that the conservative response has been measured should concern folks like glennda greatly. The huge turnout of responsible citizens on the Washington Mall a couple years ago was not a mirage. We are all still out here, preparing and pissed.

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    • Glennda
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:05pm

      MRUNNER . . .As John Lennon said, “Life is what happens when you’re busy making plans.” Keep prepping. And save those pennies for another bus ticket to DC. But be prepared to pay more for that Glenn Beck T-shirt.

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  • term limits for congress
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:27pm

    I’m going to start a union for Infidels – get me some of this pork, too.

    Speaking of,… if the tax break for hollyweird was to encourage independet film makers, I wonder if the guy that made the Benghazi video/movie is eligible for the deductions? Or, does the exemption only apply for movies that support the communist regime?

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    • ranepowel
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:14pm

      Movies are one of the USA greatest exports, and the typical feature-length film will hire about 600-1600 people. Medics are hired to be on set. Police get paid extra to moonlight as security. Animal trainers are on set to monitor conditions. Construction workers. Visual design experts. PR reps. Accountants.

      In an average year a movie studio will provide part time or full time work to over 20 thousand people. A TV series will employ about 10 thousand per season. Hollywood all together provides income for over 400,000 people just on movies and TV shows each year, making it one of Americas best and most reliable employers.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:34pm

      Yea RANEPOWEL…abortion clinics employ thousands in amerika too! Doesn’t mean its a “good thing”. Holiwierd is the most hypocritical, Marixsist, holier-than-thou, vile institution we have…it exports death, immorality, and destruction.

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  • mrunner
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:27pm

    Any suggestions on how WE can impact this crap (short of revolution)? I vote, attend rallies, call and write my congressmen and senators. The missing key imho is to educate the low information voter- but I believe they are low information because that is what they are comfortable being. Until they get uncomfortable- I am lost as what to do next. They won’t be open to learn until they feel a major impact on their lives and the Obama plan is the boiling frog approach. Open to suggestions. In the meantime I will keep my pantry full and powder dry while I await the ObamaZombie Apocalypse.

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:31pm

      Right! There is NOTHING “short” of Revolution!

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:32pm

      Why stop short of revolution? The last one ended up working out ok.

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:37pm

      “The welfare of the people has always been the alibi of tyrants, and it provides the further advantage of
      giving the servants of tyranny a good conscience.”
      ~ Albert Camus, 1948

      Back in November, the Russian news outlet Pravda (formerly the official press of the USSR), surprised everyone
      when it published a scathing opinion column labeling President Obama a “Communist without question promoting
      the Communist Manifesto without calling it so.”
      http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/

      “Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.”

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:39pm

      @FISH_BONE
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:32pm
      Why stop short of revolution? The last one ended up working out ok.
      ——————————————————
      LOL
      Its a figure of speech —– means that is the only option left

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    • girlnurse
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:49pm

      It seems as clear as day to us BODYBAG but WHY are many so blinded????
      I heard that something like only 16% of men who were able to fight in the Revolutionary war did so.
      The longer one waits the harder it gets…
      The MEDIA is enemy #1!

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    • FISH_BONE
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:10pm

      BODYBAG: But that is not how MRUNNER used the term. Look at the content of MRUNNER’s original comment.

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    • BODYBAG
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:29pm

      @FISH_BONE
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:10pm
      BODYBAG: But that is not how MRUNNER used the term. Look at the content of MRUNNER’s original comment.
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      Got it. You’re right. My bad.

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    • mrunner
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 4:36pm

      If revolution is what it ends up being, so be it. I privately pledged my “life, fortune and sacred honor” to the principles layed out in the Constitution. I was truly hoping that our “leaders” would make the tough decisions and start turning this thing around. Obviously they are not up for the task. Maybe the looming debt ceiling debate will yeild different results, but all our representatives are in the congressional gym right now working out their legs so they can sternly kick that can down the road too. It is up to us. Less than 40% of the colonists wanted to break free from the King… That gives me hope.

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 6:05pm

      When the low information folks get uncomfortable they will just blame someone else.

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 6:06pm

      @FISH_BONE: Not for some.

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  • stopprintn
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:26pm

    The joke of the day in Washington is………..

    ” For The People ”

    BWahahahaha !

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  • Mandors
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:24pm

    Boehner is wuss. If ever there was a time for him to cry like the sissy-baby he is, it’s today.

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  • Truth and Justice
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:23pm

    America and Americans are the Losers!!!! Our country is doomed!!

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:20pm

    Losers: All Americans when this stupid crazy train finally jumps the tracks and kills us all. So more taxes, more favors, more spending.. SSDD. This is exactly what we have been telling them NOT to do, and it is EXACTLY what they did do. The only difference between GOP and the Marxist Party of Democrats is the intensity of the taxes, favors, spending,..

    I will note I am very pleased to see my Congress Critter grew a spine and voted against it. Although that might be because they said they didn’t need him for it to pass so he could at least say.. “Hey, don’t blame me. I voted against it.”

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  • RIGHTHOOK
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:15pm

    They missed the category “SPENDING”; that was the overall winner!

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:28pm

      America lost …

      Remember Benghazi!

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    • RIGHTHOOK
      Posted on January 2, 2013 at 5:57pm

      I have not forgotten Benghazi but our leadership has done a masterful job at turning a blind eye!

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  • TADTAD
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:15pm

    This is Marxism 101. Kiss your former way of life goodbye. We have the power to change this, but we won’t. Damn glad to be on the back nine of life and have no children to stick this to. What a mess.

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  • Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
    Posted on January 2, 2013 at 3:14pm

    Put it more simply:

    Winners: Obama and the Democratic communists, their political cronies and madness induced agenda.

    Loser: American citizens and those who want freedom.

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