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Boston Mayor Says Vice President ‘Guaranteed’ Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January
FILE – This Oct. 5, 2012 file photo shows Boston Mayor Tom Menino during a campaign event for Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren in Boston. Menino on Friday, Dec. 21, 2012, responded to the National Rifle Association’s call for armed police and security volunteers to be posted at schools, saying the group’s proposal “is not a plan, but a ploy to bring more guns into our neighborhoods,” following the Dec. 14 massacre in a Connecticut elementary school. Credit: AP
Vice President Joe Biden “guaranteed” that President Barack Obama will pass sweeping gun control legislation by the end of January, according to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino.
“He said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino reportedly said at City Hall on Thursday. “They’re going to get it done.”
Menino, a leading gun control advocate, has been recovering from a myriad of health issues over the last two months, but said Biden has called him a number of times while he was in the hospital. One of the calls came after the Newtown, Conn. school shooting and concerned gun control, the Boston Herald reports.
“I understand the Second Amendment, the right to bear arms. But I don’t understand how young kids should be able to get guns,” Menino said, adding that Obama has “no excuse not to pass strong legislation.”
The mayor also said the president no longer has to worry about upsetting pro-gun voters or the National Rifle Association because he is in his second term. In other words, he is more “flexible.”
“Menino and New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg co-chair the 500-mayor-strong Mayors Against Illegal Guns and have called for national gun reform in the wake of last month’s Sandy Hook school killings,” the Herald report adds.
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MrKnowItAll
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:21pmI really don’t think this is gonna end well.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:26pmNope if these socialists really try and get their way it will not be pretty.
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RightUnite
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:36pmThis won’t end well for those who want gun control.
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:39pmNope, I see the confiscation of guns coming in full force. Probably under the guise of the Federal govt buying all guns for pennies on the dollar.
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KBARRANCH
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:50pmI dare you to cross the Red River. Bet they dont get past the boys in Louisiana, Arkansas, and Oklahoma…
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oldguy49
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:56pmalways go for the leaders first……meaning the idiots that order and gun confiscation………………
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Dkoonz
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:57pmI pitty the fool who comes to collect the guns.
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E.Souchak
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:07pmit’s no joke they are going to try.
The Valerie Plame Case: Why was Patrick Fitzgerald appointed Special Counsel?
http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/01/03/the-valerie-plame-case-why-was-patrick-fitzgerald-appointed-special-counsel/
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PeachyinGA
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:11pmNo problem getting desperate gun owners to part with their guns when they are offered food as a trade … after this administration makes sure those not on food stamps can’t afford food.
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ResistSocialism
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:26pm@PeachyinGA ya I take their food and use the body energy to build a gun to shoot them with and take all the food! lol
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:36pm“This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
– Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
“Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
– Theodore Roosevelt
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Here is some info on the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYLe02uld_0
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turkey13
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:40pmWe need to demand that Obama & Biden force these game companys to take all the violance & guns out of the games and force Hollywood to only let people aim their fingers – rather than guns in all the NCIS, Detective, CSI & Westerns. They need to go back and make any reruns of old John Wayne or any old show with a gun be changed to show the folks shooting at each orther with fingers. You have to start with the kids and then maybe a ban on guns might work.
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:44pmNATO will be the enforcer of gun Confiscation.
Since you people never heeded warnings from the “Consiracy Theorists”, it may be too late.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:46pmThis is not shaping up to be something that will play out very good. There are to many people that will not comply with a gun ban or having to register their weapons. It could get bad:
http://www.isthatbaloney.com/us-marine-will-not-comply-with-senator-feinsteins-proposed-gun-control-legislation/
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:50pm*Conspiracy Theorists”
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“When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed (Reserve) to conceal its powers but the truth is — the Fed has usurped the government!”
– Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of House Comm. on Banking and Currency from 1920 to 1931
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:56pmJFK was going to end the Banksters stronghold on the American People and their Country.
This is why he was assassinated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVCIdrcS6k
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Wolf
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:06pm“…“no excuse not to pass strong legislation.”…”
Except for that pesky Second Amendment- not that the Constitution has bothered odumbo in the past.
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HumbleMan
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:22pmThe masks are off now.
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MDECKER
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:25pmSteady!
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:26pmObama can’t pass anything, that takes a bill out of Congress which will not happen. What Barry-O might try, is to back door an executive order through the EPA outlawing lead in bullets for “environmental” reasons.
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:38pm“The REAL TRUTH of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has OWNED the GOVERNMENT since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
– President FD Roosevelt (1933-1945)
“The very word “‘secrecy’” is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.”
– JFK
“If the American people ever allow the banks to control the issuance of their currency (instead of Congress), first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied. The issuing power of money should be taken from the banks and restored to Congress and the people to whom it belongs.”
-Thomas Jefferson
If the nation can issue a dollar bond, it can also issue a dollar bill. The element that makes the bond good, makes the bill good, also. The difference, between the bond and the bill, is that the bond lets the money-broker collect twice the amount of the bond, and an additional 20%. Whereas the currency, the honest sort, provided by the Constitution, pays nobody, but those, who contribute in some useful way.
– Thomas Edison
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Trigus
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:46pmHey Tommy – give up your armed security detail, stop the illegal drug sale on your streets, stop violence in your city, and show proof that “assault weapons” kill more people in america.
Tommy, FBI states 1688 people murdered last year with a knife, 768 murdered with hands and feet, and 353 murdered with a rifle. 11k plus murdered by Islamic Extremist, 46 people killed by subway trains in New York City last year. 38k plus killed in automobile accidents last year. 3k killed by airplanes and box cutters on 9/11. What would you like to ban first?
Tommy, some sound advice for you: stop letting Joe blow smoke up your ###.
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Lotus503
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:47pmI still don’t see how anti-gun socialists who most likely don’t own firearms expect to forcibly confiscate firearms from those of us that do still believe in the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment. Throughout history, it’s always been the ones with the guns that dictate to those without…and I don’t see anything that has changed to make things any different nowadays.
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mikem1969
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:50pmThen let this be the line drawn in the sand fore my guns will only leave my COLD DEAD HANDS.
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icbartz
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:54pmOver my dead body!!!
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henryKnox
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:02pmPeople who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those that don’t.
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michaelmoron
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:11pmHere is another Demand a Plan Parody.
I think it is going Viral Right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgCemznb6Lc
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GuruMeditation
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:13pmI am sure it wont.
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hcartexas
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:14pmOhhh… Hes making a list, checking it twice, adding all the socialists that hate freedom and lie… Ohhh… Commando Clause is coming… to townnnnn!!!!
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BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:23pmWhat guns? I don’t have any guns, they were sold, stolen, destroyed just last month.
I will not comply
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redfish52
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:32pmThe Northern ******* will cave but the South will never give in….lot of blood will be shed and its about time.
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afishfarted
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:41pmWatch the left hand. I DO believe he wants to disarm the American people, but watch the left hand. This could be a distraction for something else.
Stay alert
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:45pmHow many more has snuck across the southern border?http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/03/egyptian-magazine-claims-muslim-brotherhood-has-infiltrated-the-obama-administration/
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DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:03pmYou are so right. This cannot end well. I worry about my kids & grand kids but I will stand my ground. They believe they will be able to send local law enforcement or national guard to confiscate firearms. Well guns I got from my daddy they don’t know to look for & guns I bought legally all got stolen last month. No I didn’t report it since the numb nuts didn’t do anything every other time I called. That’s my story & I’m stickin to it.
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Saving_the_Republic.com
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:28pmWon’t end well for the gun grabbers. This is the one thing MANY Americans will draw the line with this corrupt govt. Record gun sales are happening for a myriad of reasons, but if you think hunting or target shooting is the reason you are gravely mistaken.
To those in the military and law enforcement (as well as retired) the day IS COMING when you will have to choose between honoring the OATH you took to this nation, CONSTITUTION and the people
OR
Will you be an automaton following orders?
Its that simple.
As for those saying “from my cold dead hands” what you need to be asking yourself is not if your willing to fall but if you are willing to take another?!
Im not a Jesse Ventura fan, this is from an ’08 speech, for those wondering about taking on govt “….The second amendment, the right to bear arms is there so that we the public, if our government gets out of control, we have the ability to rise up and change it. Just because we believe in that amendment does not make us fools, it does not make us gun crazy people. There’s a reason they put that in there and as I said the reason is so we have the ability, now many people have said to me well wait a minute “how could we the citizens ever stand up to the US government and their entire military might?” Well wait a minute, I got the answer. We threw everything we had at Vietnam, and they were nothin but a bunch of farmers with a few AK-47s, and they withstood it all… “
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Brerr Rabbit
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:39pmThe Senate had the cliff bill in hand 3 minutes before the vote. How easy it will be to pass a total ban on guns. How many lines of an unread bill do you need. My guess one, All guns are hereby property of the US Government. Failure to surrender all firearms punishable by death.
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Redintheblue
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:42pmMan I’m stuck in NYS, may not be the majority around these parts but Look in the hills and you’ll find us! There is honestly more people up here that wish for no laws that I know than people that support it.
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db321
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:58pmObama can pass all the laws he wants, and Biden can pass gas on Pelosi’s face – I am not giving up my guns. I read the end of the book and I know what comes next.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:05pmWait a second. Do you mean President Obama intends to confiscate our guns? Do you think that will pass the House? Taking our guns away I mean.
Somebody explain to me how this is going to work. The House can’t even pass The Violence Against Women Act, and you think they’re going to pass a bill that requires Americans to give up their guns? That’s probably the most stupid thing I’ve ever heard in my life. I mean that’s just crazy. You’d have to be mentally ill to think Congress would pass a bill like that.
That degree of stupidity, or mental illness, hasn’t been seen in America since the ignorant, the stupid, the paranoid and/or mentally ill thought that FEMA was establishing concentration camps for Conservatives.
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SUNTZU
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:23pmYou should have already been
reading my books
may want to start with
The Art of War
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Walkabout
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:26pm“Firearms groups fight sweeping Illinois gun ban, Dems weigh options
“National Rifle Association lobbyist Todd Vandermyde told lawmakers the bill would restrict about 75 percent of handguns and 50 percent of long guns in circulation today” -Foxnews
Of course this won’t be the last Demoncat bill. If they succeed they will comeback for the other 25%.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:29pm“If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them . . . Mr. and Mrs. America, turn ‘em all in, I would have done it. I could not do that.
-Diane Feinstein on CBS-TV’s 60 Minutes, February 5, 1995
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:46pm@SendTheMeteors Apparently you’ve never heard about Executive Orders, State legislatures, or International treaties which only need Senate approval before going to the President. You’re one freaking ignorant leftist tool. Idiot.
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Canyouhearus
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:55pmGun control? What about this one?
http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2013/01/video-n-c-police-lieutenant-warns-of-martial-law-in-early-2013-2452598.html
Think there’s any truth in this one?
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IndyGuy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:05amThis just in…Civil War to erupt in America by the end of January…
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Jonesdawg
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:33amGuys, this is all theater! Remember Feinstein wanted to take this to vote in the Senate but after a few week she decided to push it to the House? That is because she didn’t have the votes in the Senate to pass it. Too many Dems in the Senate are up for re-election in super red states and would not vote for it because they wanted to keep their jobs. So a few weeks ago I told some friends to watch it get pushed to the House. It did just like I said. It wont get passed the House at all and Democrats know this, just for the mere fact that after it goes down in flames, the Dems and the MSM would then try to vilify the Republicans in the House for their desperate attempt to regain seats in the midterms. Its nothing more than theater. There is more of a chance for a executive order for some form of gun control than it is for it getting passed the House. Its all theater!!!
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kryptonite
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:13am@SAVINGTHEREPUBLIC
We threw everything we had at Vietnam…
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You’re talking apples and oranges. First, it was their turf and tropical jungles are inhospitable. Second, the govt. knows all about you and your kids. Third, we did not unleash all our military might against Vietnam. If we had, we would have crushed it.
Obama is a sinister man. You have seen what he does to his enemies abroad. He wipes them out — and whoever else happens to be around; no qualms about the casualties. He hasn’t done the same to us, because his goal is to subdue America without having to fire a single shot, so he can play golf without any major problems on his plate. He’s got a thousand ways at his disposal to control the populace.
We had one viable means to take our country back, but it was not used. I don’t know what lies ahead, but it doesn’t look good to me. God help us.
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darkknight91
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:17amSendthemeatheads, who do you think you’re fooling? “Our guns”? A sissy like you doesn’t have any guns. Go smoke a joint and go back to sleep.
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paperpushermj
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:34amThis Mayor is got to be kidding us. One politician believing another Politician now I’v heard everything.
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subic
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:37amHe’s going to try to create a false flag against themselves to create a crisis and balme it on american extremists. Stay alert!
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Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:46am“Boston Mayor Says Vice President ‘Guaranteed’ Him Obama Will Pass Major Gun Control Reform by End of January”
Han Solo said it best:
“Bring ‘em on! I’d prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around!”
http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100129155044/starwars/images/thumb/0/01/Hansoloprofile.jpg/250px-Hansoloprofile.jpg
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Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:52amOh, and Han SHOOTS FIRST:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-m3QjYszH9ic/T0GavPTOLPI/AAAAAAAAEVM/tUJNpMUIWB4/s1600/shoot-first-han-solo.jpg
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Black Horse
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:53am@Michaelmoron,
“NATO will be the enforcer of gun Confiscation.”
Then it’s war. Call it a civil war or whatever you want. Armed NATO troops on US soil equals an invasion by hostile forces and anyone up to and including the idiot in the White House that requests these troops to come here is guilty of high treason. Guess what that’s punishable with.
In this scenario, it all boils down to who will stand with Americans and who will follow the illegal orders of the Traitor In Chief. It will be the ugliest, nastiest struggle this country has ever seen and many of us won’t survive it. Doesn’t matter. We cannot roll over on this one.
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DaveInFla
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:03amProblem is, the spineless Diane Feinstein and similar ilk in Government will not be the ones knocking on doors. You want MY guns you moonbat commie? Have the backbone to come and get them YOURSELF you worthless piece of garbage! Don’t send someone else s son or daughter.
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hyper
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 7:39amRemember Obama’s mantra…he doesn’t legislate, he regulates. Somewhere the moron-in-chief is conjuring up ways to “regulate” ammunition, guns, either via the EPA or DHS. Still, if more guns in schools aren’t the answer, then why have almost ALL of the schools in America beefed up their security with armed resource officers OR are trying to figure out how to fit them into their budget. “Gun control” is just the latest easy target for liberals…like coal, tobacco, and “rich people,”
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jerryod1627
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 7:39amThere is no way that this issue will be solved peacfully! We need to prepare ourselves to either surrender or go to war!
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may40
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:10amI live in the good ‘ol state of MA (sarcasm) and we are so backwards here it’s disgusting. We have a town that just banned bottled water (rich & liberal) and the state just voted to legalize pot. WHAT???? How screwed up can one be???? It’s quite an embarrassment. The thing is where do you stop? We have more drunk driving deaths and yet there are commercials that promote drinking and sex and none of the liberals are crying out against that. Why???? Hypocrites!!!
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rangerskippy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:12amsendthemeteors
what exactly do you think Feinstein is planning on banning?
She even specified that some guns need to be banned, and without grandfathering.
other politicians and much of the MSM is saying the same
are you going to tell me that no nation has ever banned, and confiscated guns in the history of the world?
Nations that turn to socialism and communism always ban guns. they want total reliance on the state, and you are not allowed to do for yourself.
Are you telling me that England and Australia has not in recent years banned and confiscated guns?
You might want to go back and study legislation that Feinstein, Clinton, Brady….. pushed for back in the eighties and nineties. Go back and look at Morton Grove. Look at the Heller decision, where major cities though they could ban hand guns.
Liberals do not want guns in the hands of citizens.
Liberals are not talking about building a system to keep the mentally insane off the street
Liberals are not talking about how to take the black population who is 12% of the population, and does half the nation’s murders, and lowering their murder rate to the same as whites, thus lowering the nation’s murder rate by almost forty percent and saving many black lives
Libs want the guns. Hollywood types like Rosie O Fatbutt, and many others have been calling for gun confiscations for decades, and they are not just talking the rifles.
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Stu D. Baker-Hawk
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:23amLet’s see… when the government tries to get between me and my inalienable right to bear arms, I think there is a high probability somebody is going to get badly hurt… or worse (and I’m going to do all I can to ensure it isn’t me).
And a message to law enforcement: Guys, you may have to soon determine on which side you’re going to be regarding the issue of gun control. Do you REALLY want to side with godless Democrats who are hell-bent on stomping out the Constitutional rights of patriotic, law-abiding citizens? I implore you to carefully choose your allegiance because your life may depend on it.
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redfish52
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:31amFirst I hope and pray Mayor Menino passes away before he can see “any” gun legislation pass. As far as harsh new gun laws on existing ownership my question is this? Mr. President…how are you going to force me to comply? Will your force come at the end of a gun barrel?
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naughtycal
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:56amPeople wake up you want to change the Government it’s easy. Congress can’t amend the Constitution only we the people can. You want the Fed. Reserve audit or shut down the fractional bank system that is allowing these thieves to charge us 875 MILLION A DAY in interest on money they loan that they don’t have in the first place. You rally a state vote to amend the Constitution from allowing outside sources to control U.S. CURRENCY. Fact is the Constitution can be changed to master the times as they change but it takes citizen not congressional powers to change them.
All you Patriots want to remove dictorial power from the Presidency….PUT IT TO A VOTE.
But we can’t do any of this until we stop illegal and fraudulent voting within our system.
Open paper ballots who votes can t be tracked to the citizen. Programs that allow polling attendence to view photo of the voter when they pick up their ballots.
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jcldwl
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:15amNope I don’t believe it will. The thing that concerns me is that we cannot trust the Republicans either. So be ready people. If he executive orders anything we damn sure better resist. He does not have that power and the only way he can is if we let him.
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max00man
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:17amIt will end in a bloody mess… Patriotic Americans shall not give an inch on any new “gun control” measures. If they truly want a war, war is what they’ll get. I don’t believe our military will fire one shot at Americans standing up for our 2nd ammendment right. In fact, I believe they would switch sides and join us.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:21amAw, isn’t that nice? And I, and millions of others, promise not to comply. So there, two promises. Let’s see which one has more impact in the real world shall we?
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jhrusky
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:26amI see so many people saying things like, “They won’t get mine”, or “Mine have all been stolen” and others telling how they’ll hide theirs. I wish it were going to be that easy.
It’ll be a huge surprise … a confiscation won’t be announced and then methodical door-to-door tactics used. You’ll be surprised at your door some middle of the night when you least expect it and they will be there to search and remove your guns (and you if necessary) with virtually NO advance notice. You cannot hide guns so easily; dogs will sniff the gun powder out. I’ve read of some pretty ingenious ways people in other countries have attempted to hide guns during a gun-grab and even 50 years ago they were found. Think about where we have come technologically since then and how much easier it will be to hide a gun?
The only thing that comes to my mind on hiding them is to go out into your yard and bury a gun in a sealed, vertical piece of heavy duty PVC. Be sure it’s very, very deep. Then before it’s completely covered up, put scrap metal in the ground a couple feet above it. Now, dig a whole bunch more holes in your yard and bury scrap metal and crap in all of them. At least this way, you’ll have a chance once they start using ground penetrating radar, metal detectors, and other items.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:36am@Meteors aka JZS
It’s your President making these promises. Tell him about how stupid he is.
And I actually agree, it can’t be done, legally anyway.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:40am@jhrusky
Logistically impossible.
They don’t have the manpower, even if they combined the entire military of these united States and all of the police forces of the united States together into one unit. We outnumber them about 80:1. The first whiff that this is starting in, say, North Carolina and the folks in Ohio or Wyoming or Texas or Indiana will be well prepared and not laying in bed waiting. They simply do not have anything close to even a whiff of the manpower capabilities to do what you said, and if they tried, they’d be signing their own death warrants and leaving themselves powerless once their thugs were dealt with.
Not a chance in hell of door to door.
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rangerskippy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:45amJrusky
You are thinking in the right direction, but I do not agree completely with you.
They will start out, appealing to emotion ( like Sandy Hook), to stop the sale of certain guns, magazines, and ammo. Latter will come registration, and at some point outlawing what you have at your house.
When it comes time to take them, Obama and crew are smart enough to know going door to door will not work.
They will set conditions for Americans to turn in what they have. Lots of tough guy talk about prying cold dead fingers. When the feds shut off the water, power, and gas, see how many folks are talking tough after 72 hours of no water, heat, electricity, no where to poop….
Americans will take their guns to a turn in point, and they will get their water and power back on, when they turn in their guns, and they will get some sort of credit by turning in family members and friends that own guns. The gov is tracking face book, blogs.. they know who owns guns, and who is vocal about keeping them.
When it comes time to get guns from the hard core folks who did store up firewood, food, water, they will not knock on the door. They will pull up at range with armored vehicles, they will have air support via drones and helicopters, and they will order you out with your guns to turn in. Fight, and they will put a rocket through your front door, and blow your house off the foundation.
Good advice on stopping tough guy talk. Call and write your senator, and educate
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jhrusky
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:51am@ ghostofjefferson
“They don’t have the manpower, even if they combined the entire military of these united States and all of the police forces of the united States together into one unit. We outnumber them about 80:1. The first whiff that this is starting in, say, North Carolina and the folks in Ohio or Wyoming or Texas or Indiana will be well prepared and not laying in bed waiting. They simply do not have anything close to even a whiff of the manpower capabilities to do what you said, and if they tried, they’d be signing their own death warrants and leaving themselves powerless once their thugs were dealt with. Not a chance in hell of door to door.”
I hope you’re right, but am just not sure. When you combine military, UN ‘peacekeepers’, the TSA, Homeland Security, and most local police forces that will comply, that’s a bit more people. Of course, you do this under the guise of ‘National Emergency”. And, if you have the “kill switch” on the internet, do you really believe word is going to leak that quick and easy? We certainly cannot count on national news to report on anything like that.
I do, really, hope you’re right. However, our government is becoming more and more repressive and outright evil. I believe they are in the planning stage and feel their window to ‘opportunity’ is rapidly approaching. I don’t care so much about myself, but it concerns me greatly for the lives of my children and grandchildren and their ability to live free.
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jhrusky
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:02am@ rangerskippy
Acknowledged.
Those that can get their water and heat and electric shut off will be city dwellers. Those of us in the country already can survive quite well on our own. That is the reason I believe we will be targeted first. It’s pretty easy to contain and rule over city folk, not anything against them, but they are already herded into a pen and in many ways dependent, thus a fairly simple pool of people to manage.
Country folk are another type of people. I believe we will see door knocks and forceful confiscations. Certainly there will be a some public spectacles like Ruby Ridge just to show people what they will get if they do not comply, but the door to doors will follow.
I don’t know if we can win this. The time to do so is now, right now. The longer we wait, the less chance we have of winning. Writing congress people is good, but I believe many are compliant with the rulers. I believe this is going to take a huge amount of people thumbing their noses at the tax collectors and saying, “I refuse to comply!” It will take a massive amount of people standing up, and I just don’t see the vast majority of people have the ba11s to stand up and defy government, especially if government shuts off their “Jersey Shore” ‘entertainment’.
What a sad, sad state of being many/most Americans have become.
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rig_jumpr
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:17amare you saying Hope for the best but plan for the worst ? agreed
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:19am@JHRUSKY
Well, “UN Peacekeepers” showing up here would lead to an immediate assumption of foreign invasion, guaranteeing that even the wishy washy fence sitting “I own a gun but only for hunting” types will stand on our side. I already mentioned the police forces. We have 110 million known legal gun owners in these united States. They could bring over the whole damned Chinese army and the grabbers would still be outnumbered 5:1.
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G-WHIZ
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:29amThis amonst alla the illegal actions will be hidden inside the PORK, INNA The next bill they never Reid!!
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rangerskippy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:38amKeep in mind. Obama is not your regular politician.
he can do things no other politician ever dreamed of, and gets a free pass from the MSM.
Look how easily he passed his Obama Care. Bill and Hillary are not qualified to carry Obama’s jock strap.
Look how quick he allowed degenerate homosexuals to serve in our military, and our leaders dared not say a word.
He just got republicans in the house to sign off on a bill that raises taxes, does not cut spending, and grew the deficit. Republicans, the party of lower taxes and less spending, are terrified of Obama, and they do what he tells them to do. They just put their finger prints on higher taxes and bigger government.
he is magic, and has powers that none other has had before
When he decides to take the guns, the republicans will do as told, and will fall in line with the commands of Obama.
There will be some sort of slickey boy tricks that we have not even though of, and your average American will willingly turn in their guns, just like your average spineless man in American is now on the side of homosexuality, gov healthcare…..
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jhrusky
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:50am@ ghostofjefferson
“Well, “UN Peacekeepers” showing up here would lead to an immediate assumption of foreign invasion, guaranteeing that even the wishy washy fence sitting “I own a gun but only for hunting” types will stand on our side.”
Doubtful
“I already mentioned the police forces. We have 110 million known legal gun owners in these united States. They could bring over the whole damned Chinese army and the grabbers would still be outnumbered 5:1.”
They may be outnumbered, but they’d kick our ass. Most gun owners are all talk and have no idea what it means to pull the trigger on another human being. They will cower and cry like a schoolgirl when fired upon and will comply with whatever they are told. Honestly, if you think most won’t you are quite disillusioned.
I wish we lived in your perfect gun-ownership world, ghost, but I do not believe we do. We will have to agree to disagree on this.
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Yeah_Buddy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:56amI think this would be the last straw for some states and the perfect time for succession due to the Feds once again overstepping their bounds and trampling on the peoples rights.
This is our land, our God given right to seek happiness, not the ruling classes.
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ravenalexs
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:00am..history demonstrates it does not end well for citizens who are unarmed and facing a totalitarian regime….its coming. But we already knew that it was after we almost lost our 2nd Amendment right at the behest of the US Supreme Court a couple of years ago…remember!?!
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decendentof56
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:00amWell, I certainly understand the sentiment behind the talk of resisting gun confiscation. I’ve detailed to my wife the sequence of how it could play out, and what I will have to do if plays certain(and different) ways.
Having your home confiscated, being killed in a shoot-out, going “underground”, having all your assets siezed, etc. Not pleasant thoughts! I would never have thought this would happen, but these things, for all of us, are real possibilities.
Can we really believe we could possibly stop armed personnel carriers from rolling down our streets and invading our homes? We have to be ready to die. We have to inform our sons in the military of what may be asked of them to do to their own family. Some young miliytary personnel are so naive, so indoctrinated, so unaware of what is at stake, that they would take orders to kill you if threatened.
Look for the ‘infowars’ video interview of a young Army (I think) soldier who was involved in confiscating guns in NO after Katrina. He is sorry for what he did, and now realizes how wrong it was.
Remember….the German parents of children indoctrinated by Hitler never thought their “own” kids would turn on them for not relinquishing their guns!
You have to understand the consequences, and be prepared to suffer them. This is from a descendent of a signer of the DOI, so you know where I am on this.
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decendentof56
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:03amOh, and BTW….I’d love to slap the **** out of any mayor who tries to prevent a business from representing their religious belief’s. I consider them to be a traitor of the higest order.
Or, as some would say “let me be clear.”
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:04am@JHRUSKY
If that were true, it would be true across humanity. The evidence of humanity’s history shows something quite different than cowardice. The Afghans are “kicking our ass” and kicked the Soviet Unions ass with little more than bolt action rifles and donkeys.
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rangerskippy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:26amGhostOfJefferson
Believe me, the Afghanistan folks do not kick anybody’s ass, they just never stop fighing
When we pull out, they will go back to killing doctors, school teachers, they will run the educated folks out, and back to Pakistan and other nations.
they will sit on the biggest lithium reserves and do nothing with it, so they can herd goats, rape little boys, grow poppies, and stay ignorant.
Throughout world history, no nation or Army ever has a problem defeating Afghanistan. It is just after you defeat them, these undedicated cave dwellers and their fake religion never stop fighting.
You cannot make chicken salad from chicken crap.
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decendentof56
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:33amRanger/JRHusky….
I’ve done my share of reading on the takedown of America. I don’t claim to know more than any one person here, but, obviously, I know more than many.
There are “sources” in the DHS who are leaking info. It’s gotten to the point that DHS people are watching other DHS people. I’m sure some of you have seen a couple of posts hereon that topic.
The “perfect storm” would be to have the manufactured (I didn’t say it wasn’t real, just manufactured, like a motorcycle) financial calamity hit, and then, as chaos/anarchy result, people will ‘beg the devil’ for protection.
The forecast is, of course, for problems to hit cities first, as people there will be hungry (as in no food in the stores). They will go to the rural areas to steal, rob, etc. Homeowners will defend themselves. This will be followed closely by “the authorities” excursions into the countryside to kick in some doors, if necessary. Military/police/DHS personnel will have some descions to make, just like the homeowners.
What was the phrase used? “Fundamentally Transform”?
We shall see!
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rp454
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:47amNah. They couldn’t even get the votes to consider new gun legislation in Illinois. Now ObamaLord may try an end around, but there are too many Dem senators and reps from gun friendly states to get anything through Congress. Much less Diane Frankenstein’s draconian bill.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:04pm“Wait a second. Do you mean President Obama intends to confiscate our guns? Do you think that will pass the House? Taking our guns away I mean.”
We are never more than 2 years from the Democrats being able to achieve that. Election in 2014 & the Democrats are already campaigning for that. Heck they are already campaigning for 2016 as well.
Wide Receiver started & ended during the Bush administration, poorly coordinated with the Mexicans (but none the less they were given a heads up) was scrapped after the Cartels found the transmitters on the guns.
Later the Obama Regime starts Fast & Furious with no coordination with the Mexicans, no transmitters, with Cartels already alerted to government efforts & yet expected it to succeed in curbing crime.
It makes you wonder what their real agenda was. Probably exactly what people accuse it of. Planned mayhem in order to raise a hue & cry for gun control
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Walkabout
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:21pmJonesdawg
Guys, this is all theater! Remember Feinstein wanted to take this to vote in the Senate but after a few week she decided to push it to the House?
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I do not care if it is THEATER. They have us running all the time to the ramparts trying to wear us down & wear us out. We should not have to read TEA LEAVES every time some bill hits the floor or some DEMOF/CK gets in front of the cameras, to figure out if this fight is the big one or a skirmish. We go other things to do like live & prosper in our lives & jobs.
If all you do is play defense you cannot win, but you sure as heII can lose.
Ever look up Diane Feinstein’s House. It ain’t in an urban area. It is by University of California Davis. It is in a bedroom community of Sacramento about an hour or 2 away. Why did I look it up?
I wanted to see if she lived in a gated community. She does not appear to. But she lives in a an upscale community that is anything but congested. So next thing is to figure out is if she has security like ADT or armed guards at her house or on call.
The POINT is to call her a hypocrite.
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MMSands
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:31pmKBRRanch, please don’t dare them to cross the Red River. Every time I hear someone say, “That’ll NEVER happen here,” within three years, it’s happened there.
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danger08
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:04pmWhen you feel its time to hide your guns its probably time to pull them out. I’m having a hard time believing this will end in a peaceful manner. The communists have removed their mask.
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Walkabout
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:21pmSend the Meteors
Congrats … Cheers. … Salut … Take a bow.., you have earned it.
Ranger, JRHusky, ghost , Descendant & others are all talking to each other
I do not think that they would have talked quite as much as quickly without you being an irritant. They might have been been polite but split into different camps by libertarian, social conservative or whatever. But you have become an organizing force for them. They are organizing in opposition of tyranny of the people & policies you represent. You represent the holier than thou, I know better liberal. We will out law the 2nd amendment, private transportation, single family home, etc.
In at least one case emails have been exchanged.
Yes, Meteors is an organizing principle like speck of sand in a clam or like bacteria forming the nucleus of a raindrop.
Please continue with your shibboleths.
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@leftfighter
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:43pmIt won’t get past the House.
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naed5048
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:44pmwasn’t the revolutionary war started because of the threat of taking are guns away? the second is to protect us from the government…. DAHHHH
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ZZTOP
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:14pmIts not going to end well, thats why they will have the U.N come and do it, and even then its going to be a mess. We are in trouble in this country and we better hurry up and do something about it instead of waiting for it to happen. And this doesn’t just mean the gun issue.
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HenryA
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:28pmI do not think they will be able to go door to door. Also we all need to remember that if they are able to take are guns that the people have many ways to defend our freedoms. Look at Countries with no guns at all like Libya, now what is happening in Syria. The people found ways to arm them self and go after the government.
This will happen here! We will be even stronger if they try to take our guns.
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psalm37
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:57pmLooks like Governor Menino needs to cut back on the pasta, scary looking dude!
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1TrueOne55
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:02pmYeah KnowitAll: it never does just look at Russia or China or Nazi Germany. When you legislate guns away from the citizens, those citizens that agreed with the law to take guns. That years later a new leader comes into power that they don’t like and he kills them and their whole family aka Joseph Stalin or even Mao Tse Tung etc.
It really never does end well, now the UK is dealing with having there gunless society destroyed by criminals with guns and home invasions increasing. They now have to issue bullet proof vests to Police to do their jobs…
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grassroot
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:03pmRight, as he told Medvedev, this is my last election, after that I will have more
” flexibility.’ To move on with his agenda, marxist/fascist that is.
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Mr Sanders
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:11pmI feel a-n-o-t-h-e-r E.O. coming on…. where’s my advil?!
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kryptonite
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:21pm@HENRYA
Look at Countries with no guns at all like Libya, now what is happening in Syria. The people found ways to arm them self and go after the government.
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Guys, you need to stop setting rogue nations as examples of success. Reagan stated it plainly: “We are the last and greatest bastion of freedom.”
Who do you think was arming the Libyans? Hussein. Iran is too. We (Hussein & Gang) are now aiding and abetting the Islamization of the ME. That is one reason why, while I hated the Benghazi coverup, I did not mourn for the Benghazi victims. They were all sold out to the Traitor.
@RANGERSKIPPY
You are spot on about Af-Pak — and Iraq. Defeating Islamists is impossible, because they use religion to kill. We would have to: 1) Take their economic power away, i.e., become oil (not energy) independent ; 2) Get rid of the Iranian govt. Iran could actually RETURN to democracy, and 3) Give Egypt back to the military. HOWEVER, all the above are contingent upon our ability to 4) Retake our Constitutional Republic.
Needless to say, none of the above will happen with Hussein in the WH. Heck, even another Reagan might fail, since Europe is pretty much owned by the UN commies and Islamists. If you want to recall similar cases in history, take any falling empire. Then you’ll get the picture.
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airborneoathkeeper
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:50pmThey WILL get your guns. I promise you that and your Republican Party will be ones who will help them. Remember, it was the Republicans who were the determining factor for the ’94 assault weapons ban and it was those very same republicans who promosed us that if we elected them to Congress that they would overturn the ban…..they didn’t. Infact they let it expire. I find that it is only a matter of time before this government, this media, hollywierd, pro-sports and pressure from the left and the right that WILL result in the total abolition of our right to keep and bear arms. I was in my local courthouse to handle some property paperwork and I stood in a line that went out the door……all for gun permits. The funny thing was, that many of these folks were government employees…..Think about it folks. Why would government employees be standing in long lines for something that they themselves know is something that is going away and they will be instrumental in the confication process of those weapons.
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R-Paulson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:58pmThe Constitution refers to a “well regulated militia”. The only thing missing is the “regulations”. Gun owners need to be trained, tested, licensed and insured. Only then will we have a “well regulated militia”.
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conservative_dan
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:13pmBiden is an a-hole and there is no way they are going to be able to take away our guns, ever, much less by the end of the month! NEVER!!
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:33pmGhostOfJefferson, honestly I believe you are one of the few here who are not clinically paranoid. I’m not a hunter although I have friends and relatives who are (nor or I am against guns or hunting or whatever and agree that hunting is actually good to prevent overpopulation of deer, for example, and the starvation that would result). You’d probably agree that bow hunting is the most “real” form hunting, as it depends much more on stealth and skill than killing a deer visiting a feeder with a rifle. And you’d probably agree that even killing a deer at a feeder is a one shot proposition. You get a deadly shot, and find the animal, or the deer dies a week later in the wild, something which shames a real hunter.
Even if you’re hunting wild hogs in the south, a real hunter would be ashamed if he didn’t get the animal on the first or second shot. If you need five shots to kill a hog, you’re just a sorry hunter.
That’s the way the hunters I know think. They realize, as you probably do, you don’t need an AK-15, or AK47 with a 100 round magazine to hunt deer or hogs or any other animal.
Any other mammal than man. The only purpose those weapons with hundred round magazines have ever served, and will ever serve is killing people as fast as possible. That is the only reason to have those weapons. And, of course, that’s how they are used. Not for hunting, for killing people, at war, or in a theater.
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Tonto USA
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:53pmThe socialists will take this a far as they can….they absolutely want the confrontation that they were unable to get with the clowns in the OWS thing (whatever the hello THAT was supposed to be) They want it to blowup….and most of all, they want our guns gone…totally and forever. They do OT give a darn if you oryour kids or Granny gets slaughtered….andthy aren’t worried about themselves because, like Boxer they’ll have special permits and a phlalanx of armed goons protecting them.
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jhrusky
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 12:39am@ sendthemeteors
” … That’s the way the hunters I know think. They realize, as you probably do, you don’t need an AK-15, or AK47 with a 100 round magazine to hunt deer or hogs or any other animal. Any other mammal than man. The only purpose those weapons with hundred round magazines have ever served, and will ever serve is killing people as fast as possible. That is the only reason to have those weapons. And, of course, that’s how they are used. Not for hunting, for killing people, at war, or in a theater.”
Why are you bringing hunting into this and what weapon a good hunter needs? The conversation is about the right to own guns … you know, that pesky 2nd amendment thingy that has absolutely NOTHING to do with hunting.
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piper60
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:46amMumbles is establishment brain dead: a fool who thinks we can be panicked into giving up the bill of rights. And this is the hometown of the American Revolution?
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Walkabout
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:08amSendTheMeteors
That’s the way the hunters I know think. They realize, as you probably do, you don’t need an AK-15, or AK47 with a 100 round magazine to hunt deer or hogs or any other animal.
Any other mammal than man.
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Actually, if you came face to face to Kodiak in Alaska & he saw you before you saw him, you might need a 100 round clip.
Looking at pictures of merchants at Korea town defending their homes, stores, community & livelihood during the Leftists inspired LA riots, a revolver a price or a single shot shotgun would not have sufficed.
And yes, the merchants had a right to protect their stores, their livelihood. It is called a livelihood for a reason. Without it there is no life.
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LEADBELLYWOLF
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:25amHey crazy uncle Joe you forgot to blame….hammers, chainsaws, ice picks, rusty screwdrivers, rope, piano wire, automobiles, gloves( that don’t fit…you must acquit ), golf clubs, axes, war clubs, meat tenderizers, drain cleaner, bleach, rat poison, pitch forks, shovels, wood chippers, razors, broad swords, needles, Molotov cocktails, water, carbon dioxide, mailmen….
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GenEarly
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 12:58pmDHS buying millions of rounds of ammo; Citizens buying out supplies of rifles and ammo…. Where is the enemy? Two growing armed camps… Feds allied with Fiendstein and Citizens allied with The Bill of Rights. Who are Americans fighting? You know. A time for individuals to choose is coming. We are not all on the same side. Let the simple reality sink in, two camps are arming up.
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Bloodywomble
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:41pmSo how it will happen is through specific new laws that might make munitions cost prohibitive
for Joe public or bind the process of obtaining firearms in red tape.
It will be subtle but not so subtle, it seems the democrats favor death by a thousand pin
****** when they know the will of the people is against them.
Tbh I have only a passing knowledge of the bill of rights, amendments etc being of red coat
descent but living in America.
It seems clear enough though.
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
Any laws imposed restricting or forbidding law abiding citizens keeping and bearing arms
could be constituted as tyrannical.
Not even a citizen but living in the USA I can legally defend my family is a freedom I have
never known before.
The 2nd amendment is not something I wish to relinquish to a tyrannical government.
The question is how do we do something about it and not fall into the trap they will invariably
set. Push some people enough and bad things happen, irregardless of whether the
constitution is on our side.
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BlackCrow
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:21pmLook up title 10 section 311 and see who the members of the militia are. Able bodied citizens 18 years of age an up. If they are called up they need to be ready to answer with a rifle chambered for 5.56×45 NATO or 7.62×51 NATO. That mayor is why 18 year olds must be allowed the use of arms.
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:28pm7.62 is the magic number
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doubletap
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:15pmI’m to old for CQC, can I use my .300 win mag and do overwatch?
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:28pmdoubletap
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I like my .308
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JoanofAmerica
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:29pmThe Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws. It also divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities.
The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army. The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.
The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:38pmThe President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.
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But many Presidents have violated this by sending the National Guard to fight in foreign lands
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Eternal
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:23pm.223 or .22. ( yep… .22) shoot to kill
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YAHSHUARULES
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:11amFor those that don’t know how this is going to end: A history lessons on the way to the agenda…gun control is just one of the weapons.
Knowledge is Power
https://vimeo.com/52009124
If America goes down, the free world will go down with it and it will be finished for a very, very long time…
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muddy1
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:40amFind out who is a member of this mayoral organization at: http://www.mayorsagainstillegalguns.org/html/home/home.shtml
Joe Biden “promised”, Biden’s always running his mouth. Why is the Blaze putting so much credence in what he “promised” Mayor Tommy???????
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ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:20pmIf this does happen and believe me it will, then stand by to stand by because evil is going to have its way in America.
Make a hiding place NOW for your kids, esp your daughters.
I expect most law abiding Americans to be compliant with the new “No Private Guns in America” law.
Just when you thought you dodged a bullet on the fiscal cliff, you ain’t seen nothing yet!
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Lt_Scrounge
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:52pmWith the number of gun owners in this country, if a 95% majority of gun owners turn in their weapons, that will leave an armed force roughly 3 times the size of the US military. I don’t think I can calculate the level of PO’d that armed force would be either. That’s even allowing for every member of the military to side with the government, and odds are not in the government’s favor on that one either.
Just remember one fact from the American revolution, the bulk of the colonists didn’t favor the revolt.
One other thing I have to ask these liberal twits: If you were willing to surrender to a few thousand illiterate Muslims when you outnumbered them by 10 to 1, how do you expect to defeat an enemy that outnumbers you by about a 5 to 1 (or higher) margin when that force is going to be made up of and/or lead by US military veterans including a large number of special operations troops?
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Black Horse
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:08amLT – there’s almost 5 million NRA members alone. That’s already a sizeable force. As far as the military aiding and abetting NMP Odumbo, there will be some who blindly follow orders (because we were trained to). Others will not because those orders will be illegal. The National Guard units, for the most part, will likely head home and join the people. Then there are the Oathkeepers and our numbers are growing.
If we can count on a majority of the Guard and their supplies and equipment, we have a fighting chance. Otherwise, it’ll be a bloodbath and it probably will be anyway. Only our massive numbers will allow us to prevail and this country will be a sad place for a long, long time. But – we’ll still be free and the Constitution will still be the law of the land.
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muddy1
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:42amNot just our daughters, ALL of our female relatives.
Especially after reading that Biden told a newly elected female that she needed to “spread your legs, you’re gonna get frisked”.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:53amFree Thought
I don’t want a fully automatic weapon. Fully automatic weapons burn through ammunition at too fast of a rate. Ammunition weight and resupply will be a major effort. If you have ever carried a combat load you would know that weight is an issue. I saw troops burn through a 20 round magazine faster than I can type this message.
I believe in semiautomatic weapons that use 5.56 rounds. Resupply is just pulling unused magazines from the SOB who tried to kill you.
Off on a tangent
I believe there are three America weapons cultures. Rural and tied to rural have the weapons culture. Intercity ghettos regardless of race have the weapons ethic. White city dwellers who are terrified and do not a weapons ethic. I wonder who will survive when weapons confiscation happens.
This is obviously a generalization. Many city dwellers have the weapons ethic and many NE rural areas do not.
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:43am@Vet
You had me until “5.56″. Ugh, no thank you. I’ll take 7.62×51. Sure, I carry less, but since I’m firing semi-auto, I make each shot count, and every shot is a kill (well, most of them anyway, except spray and pray running between cover, which is why we also like sidearms).
5.56 just seems so damned inadequate for anything except shooting unarmored, defenseless people. It’s a wounding round and not even a good hunting round.
I know I know, the perennial debate. Anywho, I’m with you brother. :)
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D-Back
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:23amI have seen an American general and his officers, without pay, and almost without clothes, living on roots and drinking water; and all for LIBERTY! What chance have we against such men! — young British officer to Colonel Watson describing the American militia rebels in Georgetown, SC [Source: 'Marion, The Life of Gen. Francis Marion' by M. L. Weems, Ch.18]
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kapnkd
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:19pmHey Biden,
The only thing you pass is bad gas!! …You really want to start CW2 that bad???
WE WILL NOT COMPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:44pm20% won the revolution so what’s your point commi? Oh that’s right you don’t know history do you or you would not even have said that. TOOL!
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Fubared
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:47pmFreebie could this be a reason as to your not retiring in Vegas?
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All Pro
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:48pmFree_Thought 20% of three hundred fifty million is seven million versus one million federal troops. Will crush you like the commie maggots you are.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:52pmF’D UP_THOUGHT: What is your allure to voluntarily handing over your rights and freedoms to a government? Why are you ok with that? Do you have any self pride?
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:52pm@ALL PRO
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:48pm
Free_Thought 20% of three hundred fifty million is seven million versus one million federal troops. Will crush you like the commie maggots you are.
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Remember there are at least 14 million private hunters. Factor in that some very high percentage of
the military will not support the REGIME or side against the people.
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california_leavin
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:54pm20% of 800 million gun owners is actually 16 million…. I like those odds…
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:57pmOnly 3% wanted to fight the British overlords in the Revolution. In our humble appeal to God, and through his Divine protection, we won our Independence.
George Washington in his first inaugural address said, “No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States.”
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OlefromMN
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:58pm@Free_Thought re: “It will be interesting to see how many of you actually have the balls to fight. My wager is about 20%”
It’s a wager that only a fool would make. The first American to lose their life due to an overaggressive government employee will be immediately followed by rounds being chambered. I personally will fight and to my death. My last words will be “you can go ahead and shoot me, but the next sound you hear will be my neighbor returning fire”
Let’s just pray that this is all just a bunch of tough talk from a liberal politician who has no clue what his wish would really bring.
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:05pm@OLEFROMMN
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:58pm
Let’s just pray that this is all just a bunch of tough talk from a liberal politician who has no clue what his wish would really bring.
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I believe they know full well.
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Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:06pmSorry to be there bearer of bad news beckerheads but a couple of points here.
1. I was referring to the 20% of the gun nuts. Not america as a whole. The 20% of your minority. You may think that all of america shares your views but if you looked outside the blaze you may find a swell of momentum going against you. You can deny it if you like.
2. The 20% that won the revolution did not have helicopters. No tanks or drones. No kevlar or now even invisible cloaks now. No sniper rifles or rpgs. The army will follow our presidents orders not the rednecks from the blaze. Much like your homie allen west, you still dont know you have lost but the outcome will be the same.
No one is getting rid of all guns. Just ones that do not belong to civillians. Why do accept the fact you arent allowed to own fully automatic weapons? They are still guns right?
valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:17pm@Free_Thought In the 1950s citizens were able to own the same guns used to fight in WW2. They could go in to their local hardware store and buy a semi-automatic rifle, with ammunition and accessories. Nothing bad happened. What has changed? Morals, values and society. We need to restore our nation to its fundamental principles.
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OlefromMN
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:18pm“No one is getting rid of all guns. Just ones that do not belong to civillians. Why do accept the fact you arent allowed to own fully automatic weapons? They are still guns right?” by:Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:06pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0
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brother_ed
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:38pmFREE brings up some excellent points.
What about drones?
What about Apaches and night vision goggles?
What about the UN?
What about radical Islam & the drug cartels?
I, for one, do not wish for CW 2.0, but I also believe it is what the regime is pushing for.
Why are we being divided?
Why is our economy being wrecked?
Why, why, why? A thousand why’s.
I fear we are headed for disaster, but I pray for cooler heads.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:41pmFREE_THOUGHT: Answer my questions please.
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Clownzilla
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:53pm@FreeThought
Apparently there are a couple of things wrong with your logic.
1. You assume that the entire military exists of people who would follow orders against their own people. This would not be a war against another country, this would be a war against brothers, sisters, mothers, fathers, neighbors. As somebody interested in history in general I PROMISE you that any internal conflict has a whole new set of rules and morals.
2. You also assume that tanks, helicopter, big guns, etc. would make a big difference. Unfortunitly, the United States has been on the “good” end of the odds many times and lost. Remember, that even though they were supported by the Soviet Union North Vietnam was VERY outgunned by our military. We ended up getting beat up by ambushes, traps, and a lot of determined people. In a hypothetical war in the US there would be a lot of miniature Vietnams everywhere. It would result in an insane amount of losses on both sides but the government with the bigger guns would be much more surprised (because we don’t learn our lessons from history).
Do I think all this will happen? Probably not, but if your going to make the bold predictions on how things would turn out you might think about knowing what you are talking about before you say it.
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Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:56pmI am all for rights and freedoms. I thought i made it clear that they are not coming for all guns. Semi auto rifles with 30 round clips have no business in a civilized country. Answer this question. Why does anyone need a weapon like this?
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OlefromMN
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:06pm“Semi auto rifles with 30 round clips have no business in a civilized country.”
You’ve never been prairie dog hunting. The .223 with extended magazines makes for a fun day. The prairie dog is almost as dumb as a liberal.
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Lordchamp
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:29pmFree, Why do you need anything? Why not just let the government tell you exactly what you can have, what you can eat, what you can wear, what you can drive…if they let you drive or not.
Why do I have a semi-automatic rifle with 30 or more round magazines? Because it is my natural and God given RIGHT. It’s for ME to decide what I have and don’t have not some government. I have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. My guns are part of my happiness. Part of my liberty. Most importantly it is the way I retain my life as my own.
You honestly, REALLY trust the government to stop with just banning one type of gun? REALLY? Are you really that trusting? What do you base that trust on? Have they really been that trustworthy?
You see, without being armed with the same weapons that are available to the police and government we have no way to protect those rights that we have. History is the best teacher. Just the 20th century alone speaks volumes for what happens to the citizenry of countries that give up their guns.
Well over 100 million dead that we know of. You support that kind of killing?
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:30pmthe military will not support the REGIME or side against the people.
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I agree, but Barry will keep them occupied outside of the U.S.
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:35pmSemi auto rifles with 30 round clips have no business in a civilized country. Answer this question. Why does anyone need a weapon like this?
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First read the Bill of Rights, then read the <D i c k Act of 1905? which is still in force
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gs425
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:43pm“I am all for rights and freedoms. I thought i made it clear that they are not coming for all guns. Semi auto rifles with 30 round clips have no business in a civilized country. Answer this question. Why does anyone need a weapon like this?”
Us ‘gun nuts” thank you for being able to make decisions for us but the fact that you ask that question makes you completely unqualified to talk about any firearm. A question like that shows complete ignorance is stopping power of certain firearms and the use against multiple attackers.
Even if you had a clue, the answer would be “none of your f*&king business you commie”
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Redhawke
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:47pmI think that you are FREE from THOUGHT.
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GuruMeditation
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:25pm@Free_Thought: You are seriously misguided. The guns civilians buy belong do them and they can also buy fully auto as well and license them in some areas. It just isn’t cheap. And guess what? If they make them all illegal, people WILL ACQUIRE fully automatic weapons and employ them rather than semi’s because they are all illegal. Once they are all illegal who’s gonna give a 5h!t? It will be about life and death then, not a measly prison sentence.
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NOTYERHUCKLEBERRY
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:45pmFree-thought–I’ll answer your question. It is simple, the second amendment, in it’s strictest sense, means that I am able to be as equally armed as the military. Our founding fathers set it up that way because they feared an over powerful government. When a population is well armed, a government would think twice about grabbing too much power.
All this said, I should be able to own anything the military has if I have the funds.
Oh, and to your question about owning a semi auto with a thirty round magazine–because I can! Quite simple isn’t it?
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:52pm@pervertedthought During the Revolution, citizens owned the same arms that the US continental military owned. Hell, during the Revolution, American citizens owned much more advanced guns than the British troops owned. On that note, during the Civil war, Colt sold the same guns to the US military and US citizens. What we have now is a bunch of deluded liberals who are little pansy degenerates and who are brainwashed by misinformation spouted by the leftist MSM.
Watch this and learn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–br564pRH8
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Fubared
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:23amFreebie
I just mailed in all my 30 round clips, so that is out of the way-whew huh?.
Point 1. You are a moron that cannot differentiate base nomenclature and follow blindly what is spoon fed to you. How can you expect to be a part of a conversation with someone else’s blather coming out of your empty cranium?
Point 2. Retire all the way and STFU.
Point 3. I can and will shoot and enjoy immensely a 30 rd mag at my leisure, on my property and at ranges that still know what is legal and safe. Cry on over to AARP about your rising worthless healthcare costs.
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WATER-THE-TREE
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:26amThere are foreign troops that you may not be aware of on our soil, lots of them. While our troops are stationed all of the world in useless places.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:04amFree Thought
“Semi auto rifles with 30 round clips have no business in a civilized country.”
Here is the good deal. We don’t have semiautomatice weapons with a 30 round clip. If you had spent some time in the military or naval services, you would know that the M16 and it’s derivatives use a MAGAZINE not a clip. You probably picked up on the word “clip” watching WWII movies on TV. Since you don’t know the normenclature of weapons, you speak for ignorance.
Study up a little before you talk to veterans about weapons and the right to keep and bear arms. You have to be a city dweller.
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D-Back
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:35am@ FREE THOUGHT:
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’ The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, and not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree; and all this for the important end to be attained: the rearing up and qualifying a well-regulated militia, so vitally necessary to the security of a free State. Our opinion is that any law, State or Federal, is repugnant to the Constitution, and void, which contravenes this right. [Nunn vs. State, 1 Ga. (1 Kel.) 243, at 251 (1846)]
Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American…[T]he unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people — Tenche Coxe, The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788.
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bTeri
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:19pmGood luck getting Feinsteins bill essentially outlawing all guns passed in the Senate let alone the House. Especially given that the Obama Presidency by Executive Order that is bankrupting our country and gutting our military has reminded us that more than ever we need for the people, THE GOVERNED, to arm against and out of control GOVERNMENT- and with comparable arms.
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:41pmThe senate and the house will have no say in this. This will be done just like everything else he has done. Executive order……
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mrunner
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:25pm@CWC – Won’t be his first Executive Order that is unconstitutional- but will be the first one that is not only ignored, but openly opposed. CDH
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BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:44pmCertainly makes one wonder, if he does push this through via EO, will ANYONE, anyone in the House have the guts to FINALLY impeach him for treason? I mean, attacking the 2nd amendment- it doesn’t get much more treasonous than that!
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rc30
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:51pmgs425
The guns they want to ban are not the guns used in most crimes. More people are killed with there bare hands then with a semi auto rifle. That is fact look it up on the FBI crime list. You belive government when it tells you the AW are bad. There are more AR15 and AK47 out there then we can count. Here is more facts for you. My son 270 4 round mag or 10 round mag bolt action rifle will do more damage then any AW fact. Most who shoot hunting rifle can hit a 3inch circle at 600 yard and farther. Now tell me this if this mad man who did this. Had 4 to 5 10 round mags in a bolt action rifle that is high power thing would have been better less kids would have died. One he could shoot threw all most any object who going to stop him inless they have a gun. Any way you look at it kids would have died. Now what would happen if the teachers would have been armed or a armed guard. You going to tell me that he wouldn’t have been stop before so many died. You never hear how people with a CCW save life. Just how guns take life wonder why that is. Look at what happen in San Antonio Texas. Some mad man try to kill a bunch of people. He didn’t take one life because he was put down by a CCW carrying woman. Now try to use facts to make your case you can’t. The truth is the truth plan and simple.
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AUsername
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:18pmRand Paul filibuster it. if they override it they party is dead and gone and a third part is a must for representation of conservatives.
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danger08
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:18pm“Nothing to worry about”… Sir, if you think you can take away my means of protecting my family against thugs and those who believe they are “elite”, well good luck with that. Do you think record sales of guns is because everyone suddenly took up plinking?
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ResistSocialism
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:28pmExactly
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piper60
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmThere’s a reason why they call him “Mummbles” Menino.
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lissa77
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:01am(just to further his credibility): Biden’s the same guy who made a crude, inappropriate comment about the private parts of a man lying in a coffin, to his family as they grieved at a ceremony for their hero son.
Take heart, my Southern neighbors – this Canadian 2nd-amendment supporter is with you…Biden’s story is fiction.
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Black Horse
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:25amLissa77 – Thank you and God bless you and our other brothers and sisters to the north. If the worst does happen, the fallout will be global and we’ll need to band together and help each other in the US and Canada.
Freedom is only one generation away from extinction, as a great man once said. I pray it will not be this generation.
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Coded-Dude
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmGood luck with that Barry. Let me know how it works out for you…….
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:23pmI would not be so quick to dismiss this. There is something unnerving and unsettling about
elections that defy all known logic, TV news graphics that “accidently” show results that havent happened yet, etc.
Everyone should be alarmed that the sitting VP is going around giving “100% guarantees”
on SWEEPING legislation that hasnt even been INTRODUCED yet.
“Vice President Joe Biden “guaranteed” that President Barack Obama will pass sweeping gun control legislation by the end of January, according to Boston Mayor Thomas M. Menino.
“He said, ‘Tommy, I guarantee you, we’ll get it done by the end of January,’” Menino reportedly said at City Hall on Thursday. “They’re going to get it done.”
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Joe_The_Patriot
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:35pmWell lets think… once Barry got elected for his 1st term he started by RAMMING obama care down our throats..
Now as we come to the beginning of this tyrants 2nd term he’s going to RAM gun control down our throats…
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Nancys Red Diaper Doper Babies
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:44pm@ BODYBAG
I’d be more concerned if Biden didn’t talk out of his ass more than Barney Frank after a severe bout of beer farts. Biden can barely string a coherent sentence together let alone a legitmate “guarantee”. The libs/progressives will definitely push for it but unless the Republicans completely bend over I don’t see how they plan on getting it done.
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Coded-Dude
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:56pmLast I checked, Obama passed Obamacare with a Democrat controlled House. The House is now controlled by Republicans. The legislation must go through the House, where it will likely fail, but Boehner doesn’t even have to allow the bill to hit the floor(he said he wouldn’t IIRC). The only way I see Obama passing “strict gun control” is through Executive Order(to which we say hello Civil War II). Maybe the Democrats will gain control in 2 years, but I see nothing happening anytime soon. YMMV
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darkknight91
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:37amWell, it is Crazy Joe. He’s got diarrhea of the mouth. The only way it’s a guarantee is if it’s EO. But the Republicans cave on everything so who knows. Just keep loading up and be ready. Keep an eye on the left hand.
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmI will not comply with any new gun legislation that comes out of the rear end of the progressives or Feinstein. No one comply. Do not comply to fingerprints. Do not comply to photos. Do not comply to registration. Do not give them a freaking inch. They intend to confiscate them all.
Don’t forget what happened under National Socialism in Germany:
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/2nd_Amend/nazi_repression.htm
North Korea, Venezuela, China and a host of other leftist and socialist nations want the US Government to disarm us Americans. These red bastards are pushing international policies to pass stricter gun control legislation worldwide. Don’t forget the UN’s Small Arms Treaty and their attempt to trample on our Sovereignty and Constitution. These closet Marxists in Government are traitors. Don’t negotiate with traitors.
Do not consent to any gun control legislation that congress puts forth. It’s all unconstitutional. They may only train, equip and discipline the state militias, for certain specified reasons outlined in the federal Constitution, but they have no power to infringe on the people’s private right to keep and bear arms. None. Do not consent to any of their traitorous laws.
“All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” Marbury vs. Madison
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:50pmNew York Governor Cuomo hints at gun ‘confiscation’ as a legislative option:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/12/governor_cuomo_hints_at_gun_confiscation_as_a_legislative_option.html
Sen. Diane Feinstein intends to ban all guns:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LaBJvI0BI
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:07pmEric Holder calls on the Government and the MSM to brainwash people to think negatively about guns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw
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newsjunkie
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:50pmHow do you not comply to finger printing, registration etc? I’m 63 and just purchased my first gun. I had to fill out the registration or I wouldn’t have gotten it. I’m going to a ccw class and was told when I get that certification, I have to go to the courthouse and get finger printed and whatever else I have to do to get it. I don’t want to get finger printed, but don’t know what else to do. It seems they already have us over a barrel.
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Fubared
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:58pmNewsJunkie
Just last week I sold my arsenal to a guy by the name of Encinom, or Jihad Jerk, I can’t remember now and sorry I didn’t save a receipt. Or, dang, just yesterday, they were all stolen in a brazen night time shed robbery, and I was just getting around to calling the PD and BATFE wankers. Ooops. They were all on a jon boat in the Chesapeake when a rogue wave came up over the gunwales. Ooops.
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wzanesdad
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:29pmnewsjunkie,
In some states, like arizona and texas, you can go to a gun show and buy your guns. You don’t have to show anything or take any classes to do it.And you don’t ever have to be fingerprinted.
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booger71
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:43pmwzanesdad
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:29pm
newsjunkie,
In some states, like arizona and texas, you can go to a gun show and buy your guns. You don’t have to show anything or take any classes to do it.And you don’t ever have to be fingerprinted.
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And you can buy directly from individuals, but anyone who would sell their guns are nuts, a quick profit is not worth it.
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valiant1776
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:53pm@newsjunkie I’m talking about new federal legislation. The line has been drawn. We’ve had enough.
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Royalkin
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmAll I can say is, war is coming… People WILL NOT voluntarily give up their guns, and the resistance towards any attempts to do so will result in bloodshed.
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Wisdom7
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:18pmA war is coming? No it isn’t. People did nothing while the anti-American left slowly took control over the last half century. People did nothing when they took over the educational system, rewrote history, destroyed our identity and culture, and brainwashed children to their way of thinking. People allowed themselves to be labeled falsely. They also allowed themselves to be burdened with a false “white guilt”. They allowed men to become emasculated and celebrated it. They allowed themselves to be demonized without just cause. They allowed lies to rule. They allowed those who sought only their self-interest to sit in chairs of power. What did they do? Nothing. The signs were all there for everyone to see, just as they are now. Where are integrity and honesty? They are seldom found. Where are values and morals? They don’t exist they say. To argue with them is like arguing with an addict. There is no logic or reason. It will become your fault regardless, and the people have become enablers. When they ask to give up the guns, people will do nothing.
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Black Horse
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:41amWisdom7, care to bet on that? Pay attention to what’s being said now and what’s going on around you now and by whom. Things are changing fast. People ARE waking up. There is always a point at which a large number of people will have been pushed too far. There will be a trigger. Gun grabbing by the government may be that trigger, or something else or multiple things at once.
I see the finger on that trigger right now, slowly squeezing. Nobody can tell for sure when the hammer will fall, but I think it will not be too long.
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Think_4_yourself
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:42amThere will be a few cases of “rouge” people that resist, they will be villified by the MSM as gun nuts. Has everyone forgotten the National Civilian Defense Force that Oblamo touted 4 years ago? Does no one remember the 1.2 billion rounds of ammo purchased and stored in various ammo holding spots like SS offices, FEMA offices, local police department offices.
How easy would it be to operate when the IRS freezes your bank account? Cuts off your credit/debit cards? No power at your house, oh well? No water, too bad. We have lost the war already, we just don’t realize it yet.
Lots of big patriotic talk, not much teeth behind it though. Don’t mistake my meaning, I served my country and am proud of it, but the reality has be exposed to me. In this high tech world, of which we are very dependant on, they can defeat you without firing a shot.
Remember the little 2 line wording in one of the many bills passed, giving absolute power to control the internet…hmmm. Pretty hard to jump on your horse and scream the british are coming nowadays.
All of this was being planned and executed while everyone was watching American Idol, football, ect. Everyone was focused on the latest bozo move by Oblamo, while the left hand was secretly lining everything up. When evil is your motive, it is amazing what can be accomplished. The end is here, good luck and God bless you.
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Black Horse
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 2:44amThink_4_Yourself,
What you say may be true to some extent, but many of us grew up without the internet. I have enough alternative and backup resources and I don’t need anything more high-tech than 2-way communication. Got that, too. You might be surprised by how little people can get by with when they have to, especially if we help each other. If what we’re talking about happens, banks are meaningless, the IRS is meaningless – it all matters not one whit.
If you truly believe we’ve lost already, then you indeed have. I am sad for you. If I lose my life during all of this if it come to pass, I still will not have lost.
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Stone Cold Truth
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmSince when did the mayor of Boston matter? No matter what just need to stick together and NOT COMPLY. There aren’t enough jail cells for us all. Fight the power!
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ResistSocialism
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:29pmIs the bastad dead yet
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southernORcobra
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:13pmHaha prepare for a second civil war you stupid libs.
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Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:47pmAnd prepare to lose. Again.
FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:00pmIronic that you would use the word “FREE” as part of your name when you are so willing and eager to give up your freedoms and your liberty and voluntarily hand them over to a government. You are a true coward and an embarrassment to all Americans who have fought and died for the freedoms you so willingly discard.
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hatchetjob
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:24pmThe reason FREE is part of his/her name is because of the food stamps, welfare and EBT goodies he/she is receiving.
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mcnak90
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:40pm@my_mind _is_controlled_by_the_government (freethought): again? you do realize that democrats were the ones who were on the confederate army? and that Lincoln created the republican party which fought in the union army? and then the union army won? and that its the republicans once again defending our liberties with this gun control nonsense? If Syd Barrett were here, he would spit in your face for not knowing your history while claiming that you do. i implore you to change your icon. and your name for that matter because clearly you lack the intellect required to be a free thinker.
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TeslanEdison
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:47pm@FREE_THOUGHT You don’t get what you’re egging on do you, a modern Civil war will mean even less quarter for civilians than in the previous civil war, and if they get their hands on any biological or chemical weapons of which there are loads of stockpiles, train cars etc with lots and lots of it going all over the US it will be a horrific event. I hope Obama thinks about fixing mental services before he touches Gun laws, he’s already on the verge of being impeached for passing the LOST treaty with the UN without ratification. God save us ALL
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Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:08pmThe civil war was a long time ago friend. The same rules do not apply. I think you severely underestimate americans desire to see an end to gun violence. How many times do i have to tell you people that they are not coming for all guns. Jesus christ.
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Free_Thinker
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:12pm@ Free_Thought, change your name idiot I had this one long before you showed up here with your moronic comments. How can you even think your statement of “they are not coming after all your guns” is true? You have no idea what they are planning on doing! BTW, they can’t have ANY of our guns as they are a right we are guaranteed. If you want to know why anyone needs a semi-auto rifle with a 30 round “magazine”, it’s because the government has them and we need to be able to defend ourselves. As far as an automatic weapon goes hardly anyone has one so stop acting like it’s common.
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DoOrDie
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:41pm@Free quote “And prepare to lose. Again”.
I’m prepared to lose Free. Want to give me a shot coward?
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Free_Thought
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:03pmSee the difference between us is simple. Im bot talking all this macho come and take it crap. I believe there should be limits to the second amendment. If you want a gun fine. But you do not need an assault rifle with a 30 round clip for self defense. A 9mm would suffice dont you think?
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Techcon
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:38pm@FREE_THOUGHT
“But you do not need an assault rifle with a 30 round clip for self defense. A 9mm would suffice dont you think?”
Ever hear of a SHOTGUN, stupid?
Lemme help: 5 shells x 9 pellets = 45 projectiles. Is that MORE or LESS than 30?
And “clip”, really? Great, another GUN-TARD who knows only what he’s seen in the movies. It’s MAGAZINE, dummy!
What is it that you don’t get? The 2nd Amendment is about defense of SELF and STATE.
You really expect the PEOPLE to defend the STATE with pistols, hmm, stupid?
“That will NEVER happen here!”
Yeah, that’s right up there with, “There will never be a shower with a chimney.”
Lemme help you again: whatever civilian law enforcement has, yeah, we get to have that, too. What, they’re only “…weapons of war…” in the hands of the PEOPLE?
Try THINKING next time.
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BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:08pmI have read many of your comments on this topic and have to say I am astounded by your total trust in the government. This administration first drew my attention, and scrutiny for that matter, before the election of the first term when, then candidate, Obama said he was going to “change” the United States, but never defined what “change” meant. Now, after 4 years, I know what kind of change was meant. His socialistic tendencies are all that’s needed to breed fear into the heart of every freedom-loving person. He has nothing but pi$$ all over the Constitution since day one- dismantling it a little piece here, a sizeable chunk there. And YOU think that we should just trust that “they” are not coming after every single gun?
What shocks me most about your attitude is this; you seem to not even realize that “they” get to define what an assault weapon is. Any gun can be used as an assault weapon. In the wrong hands it can cause mass destruction and it does not matter how many rounds it fires per second. And this is NOT even being addressed. Mental health is the issue here. Not one politician, media personality, or Hollywood elite has DEMANDED that we address mental health in this country as they have come out against guns.
If they were REALLY serious about addressing the Sandyhook incident shouldn’t mental health be at the top of the list? I suspect it has nothing at all to do with sparing the lives of innocence, but all to do with power.
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valiant1776
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:06am@pervertedthoughts Your presumptions are baseless. A man can do the same damage a semi-automatic rifle with 30 rounds can do with two 15 rounds semi-automatic .45 pistols. Your fear, emotion driven, illogical drivel is pathetic. Should we also limit gun ownership to one gun? To 6 rounds? You liberals are so damn stupid. Crime will not be deterred nor reduced by banning 30 round semi-automatic rifles. Should we reduce drunk driving by banning certain cars and requiring all drivers to take a breathalyzer test before each drive? You have absolutely no facts to prove crime and violence will go down by banning 30 round semi-automatic rifles. Your progressive overlords in Congress only propose such non-sense to create the illusion that they’re doing something about violence, and to make the people feel safe. Thanks to your Marxist ACLU organization, maniacs are free to roam the streets. You can ban all rifles of whatever kind, and have the strictest gun laws ever, and it will never stop a madman from murdering his mother or neighbor and stealing their guns.
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weskets
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:13amFREE – first I have the right to own ANY firearm regardless of the size ammo or the amount of rounds it is capable of holding.
When the founders wrote the second amendment they knew that the times and types of firearms would change that is why they SPECIFICALLY stated “firearms of the times” because they knew that ” WE THE PEOPLE” would not be able to defend ourselves from a tyrant government if we were only allowed inferior fire power.
They did not write it so we could go hunting or sport shooting, they made it clear, it was to protect the citizens from a tyrant government.
Now, why don’t you be a little daring and be a rebel for once and go back and tell your handlers that maybe they should discuss the real issues and restore family, values, morals and logic. And if you really want to be a rebel, tell them you don’t want any more FREE stuff, your house is already full.
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Code_Exempt
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:42am@Free Thought
“But you do not need an assault rifle with a 30 round clip for self defense. A 9mm would suffice dont you think?”
No, people never know what they are going to have to defend themselves against. The LAPD have their side arm and in their car they have both a shot gun and M16. Why? You never know what you might have to defend yourself against. In 1997 they attempted to use their 9mm’s/.40′s for self defense against bank robbers with actual assault rifles (not the semi-auto ones that you are claiming are “assault” rifles) It did not turn out so well. If you think a 9mm is sufficant, then you might as well keep a fire extinguisher filled with water in your kitchen. But then again you don’t need a fire extinguisher because you kitchen is not on fire, right?
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Zundfolge
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:11pmAh, so we’ll be at war by the end of the month.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:18pmLet’s roll
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MooseyStuff
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:13pmPlus one.
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checkingbothsides
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:15pmSure is a lot of empty bravado on this site, isn’t there? You’re all a bunch of internet tough guys. You know what you’ll do when they come for your guns? You’ll roll over, because a redneck with a shotgun is no match for a trained law enforcement agent. Good thing that’s not really happening, and it’s all in your paranoid brains.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:18pmcheckingbothsides
One might consider the accuracy of a “redneck with a shotgun” who uses it every week as a tool to feed his family vs “trained personnel” who maybe use it once a year to qual on a range with paper.
Also, one might consider that this is the internet, and that you have absolutely zero knowledge of what anyone posting has training for or experience in.
Have a nice day!
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:09pmFrankly it won’t be any problem with Boehner in the bag…..again!
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Fubared
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:13pmExactly, again.
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tonypro
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:13pmHow true.
We’ll just have to pass it to see what’s in it.
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Uechi
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:09pmMole Labe!
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:08pmWhy are “gun control advocates” so ignorant? Does it really take that much brain power to understand:
1. Gun control laws do not stop criminals from committing crimes
2. When good guys don’t have guns only bad guys have guns
Really, how difficult is it to understand?
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Shasta
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:13pmOh they understand. And it has never been about public safety. It is about power, control and the need to disarm the citizens who will some day have had enough of this bull.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:23pmSHASTA: I agree with you 50%. While there are certainly many, many elected officials including the maggot in the white house, who are using the gun issue as a means to control and take more power, there are also many mindless dolts and general fools who sincerely believe that more gun laws equate to a safer society.
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Shasta
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:31pmFish, you may be correct. But I find it easier to believe these people are totally corrupt rather than think anyone could be that friggin stupid.
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pissantno.10
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:38pmthey dont care, its about making the people of this country slaves of the state. these people all think they are gods and goddess kings and queens lords and ladies. and the rest of us are just dirt. they have no clue about history and what may just come there way trying to enslave people of this country
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:44pm“The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, short swords, bows, spears, firearms, or other types of arms. The possession of unnecessary implements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues and tends to foment uprisings. ”
– Toyotomi Hideyoshi, dictator of Japan, August 1588
“One of the ordinary modes, by which tyrants accomplish their purposes without resistance, is, by disarming the people, and making it an offense to keep arms.”
– Constitutional scholar and Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, 1840
“Men trained in arms from their infancy, and animated by the love of liberty, will afford neither a cheap or easy conquest. ”
– From the Declaration of the Continental Congress, July 1775
“Militias, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves and include all men capable of bearing arms. [...] To preserve liberty it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them. ”
– Senator Richard Henry Lee, 1788, on “militia” in the 2nd Amendment
“Every Communist must grasp the truth, ‘Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.’ ”
– Mao Tse-tung, 1938, inadvertently endorsing the Second Amendment.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:18pmSHASTA: If you find it hard to believe people are really that “friggin’ stupid” just read FREE_THOUGHT’s comments above. He will happily hand over his rights, freedoms, and liberty to a government. These mindless dolts are foolish enough to believe anything their progressive maggot leaders spew off their forked tongues.
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eadamico70
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:39amExactly!!! I’m so sick of hearing these people talk about ‘gun control’, God forbid they are ever in a situation in which they need it. I’m hearing many different things from many different people. I’m from Massachusetts which have some of the strictest laws in the Nation, I dotted my I’s and crossed my T’s, had a class from a state trooper (believes in the 2nd ammendment, can’t stand Obama). This trooper is teaching me so much about flight or fight and combat readiness. I don’t know what the future holds but as a responsible gun owner, I have to be prepared for whatever comes and pray for the best. Also, as a women, I feel much better knowing I can protect myself and be comfortable with a weapon. For target practice, I’m partial to the .22 LR. Very easy, minimal kickback.
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jimmymac1
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:21amGun control is not what this is about. Gun control is just a step this has been in the works for a long time. You all should be aware that in ww2 only about 10 percent of solders actually fired their weapon at another person that is why the military went to man shaped targets to desensitize the military. As far as Vietnam I was there and we were not really allowed to just go in and kick ****. We were sent to take lots of hills that were not needed. That was dumb azz politicians the same problem we have now.
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tonypro
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:07pmI will state very simply to ANYONE that wants to set me up to become a slave of the state, or THINKS they have the right to take from me, the means of defending my family, or myself,,,,,,,,,Well YOU CAN GO SCREW YOURSELF.
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Gildersleeve
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:06pmGood God Almighty what an ugly man. Gripes.
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TheePolitinator
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:15pmLooks like bawny fwanks boyfriend.
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Redhawke
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:02pmI doubt he has the mental capacity to understand something as “complicated” as the Second Amendment.
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:01pmWhy do all these Politicians look like the Old Mafia photos?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:10pmHe does look as though he could have been a character on the Sopranos.
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yiska8
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmThe old mafiosos are a step above these sacks of *hit.
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RLTW
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:01pmObama has “no excuse not to pass strong legislation.” Only that more gun laws aren’t the answer, and it’s unconstitutional along with the fact it’s not about safety, but control.
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Obtuseangler
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:00pmObama can’t “pass” any legislation. Only Congress can do that.
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Shasta
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:11pmObama will expand his use of executive orders to include legislation by decree. And congress will complain, and then roll over and ask to get their belly scratched.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:12pmHow many executive orders has the POS signed?
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Babci
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:14pmOh, watch those Executive Orders roll…
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Al J Zira
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:28pmFrom what I can gather, he’s signed 145 EO’s.
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Al J Zira
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:34pmBush signed 135 in 8 years in office.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:40pmThanks AL J. And how many of those EOs have advanced the liberty and freedom? How many have advanced his anticolonialist, anti-American agenda?
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GuruMeditation
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:27pmCongress can over turn the Boy King’s EO’s an so can the people.
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Canyouhearus
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:37amObama can do anything he wants. As he keeps telling us..he has a mandate. To him that means he can. He is now ruler of all! And do you see our Congress doing anything about it? Have they yet? Why would they suddenly grow a spine?
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zeroturnzed
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:51amYou are partially right on that. It takes a coordinated effort by Congress and POTUS to pass laws with one exception. POTUS can use the executive order to create laws and sidestep Congress. All that has to happen is for the Senate to be silent and let the executive order stand and become the law of the land. The House of Representatives has no say in this at all. And you will find that the Senate is offering a blind eye and deaf ear to anything that the president issues an executive order for so one way or another it will happen.
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yiska8
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:59pmPhone calls with Biden over the last few months? Sandy Hook was less than a month ago.
This has been in the works for some time.
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FISH_BONE
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:10pmAlthough I try not to buy into conspiracy theories, I have to wonder if the recent gun related “events” were “planned”. Frankly, I wouldn’t put anything past the Kenyan and his crew. Dispicable maggots, all of them.
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Skeeterhawk
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:22pmThis has been going on since the first ban in ’94. The anti’s knew the first bill was thrown together and full of holes. They have used 18 years to craft one that will be harder to usurp. The House is still with Republican control but I don’t know if they all have the backbone to stop the impending legislation. What’s coming is not only draconian but it will be the first volley in disarming the USA at the grass roots, middle class level. You are foolish if you don’t believe this is the mission of these zealots. The proposed legislation to ban and restrict will come in wave upon wave. Join the NRA and get active on the phone because these folks have an emotional tidal wave on their side of feel good morons that could give a damn about you or that pesky constitution. Its already starting in IL an it soon will be in a state and town near you guaranteed.
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SaturdaysWarrior76
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:27pmThings that make you go hmmmmmmm….
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Joe_The_Patriot
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:31pmWe all knew this was going to happen, Luckily many of us started preparing for it 4 years ago… The result of the election has closed the lid on the coffin of the USA and obama has the hammer at the ready to nail it shut
Keep YOUR Power DRY
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Skeeterhawk
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:31pmMore aptly, “we” would be foolish not to understand they want every private firearm and magazine in private hands. Did not want to sound like I was after you personally YISKA8. I was not.
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yiska8
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:44pmI wouldn’t put anything past these evil SOB’s either. Lanza’s mother was so fearful of her kid, that she took him to a gun range to train on AR-15′s? Nothing adds up. The story keeps changing and rumors by local police in CT are saying that no assault weapon was fired. We know nothing about the mother. Conspiracies abound, but at this point how can any critical thinker forego looking beyond what the media and this administration is shoveling at them.
Here’s Michael Savage on the topic if you got the time..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tVPtTzar_0&list=UUGQ29J4BOwYWcQWMx_lMiWw&index=6
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ResistSocialism
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:46pm@fish “Frankly, I wouldn’t put anything past the Kenyan and his crew.” no doubt and everyone will surely be sorry the results
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yiska8
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:10pm@skeeter
No problem. I get it. I grew up with weapons. I have a respect for personal defense and the Constitution.I sniffed the stench of government reach and capabilty when I was in high school during Ruby Ridge and Waco. Then I watched how they snatched Elian Gonzalez with assault weapons in a private home to sent back to Commie Cuba under Clinton. Yet, Obama gave amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Now I’ve seen a man who is not legally fit to be President in the Presidency and basically steal the 2012 election. It was just a matter of time before a government who doesn’t fear the American people, to render them completely powerless by stripping their fundamental rights. Our nation went over the cliff quite some time ago. I think the lights must go out for there to be any kind of rebirth. God be with us all.
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john koenig
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:59pmIf Mayor Mumbles and Biden say it’s so, then I GUARANTEE you, we have nothing to fear.
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Shamrock241
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:16pmIf there lips are flapping there lying, Biden knows they can’t pass gun control by the end of January.
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