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Jan. 3, 2013 12:56pm Billy Hallowell

Belleville Detective Told to Remove Gun From Dennys, Chief Bans Staff From Eating There

Photo Credit: Denny’s Restaurants

Gun sensitivity is certainly on the rise. And if you needed an example, look no further than Belleville, Ill., where a battle is brewing between local police officers and a Denny’s Restaurant after an on-duty detective who went inside was told that she either had to leave her firearm in the car or exit the establishment. In addition to voicing outrage at the alleged treatment, the Belleville police chief has since banned officers from eating at the diner.

The drama unfolded on New Year’s Day when the detectives were eating at the Denny’s. The restaurant’s manager came over to tell a female in the group that she had to take her gun to the car or leave. Her request was purportedly based on a complaint from another customer. While, at first, the detectives assumed that the mandate was a joke, they quickly learned otherwise.

The manager explained the Denny’s only allows officers in uniform to carry guns, however the detectives had shown their badges, thus substantiating their identities. When they got up to leave, a general manager, who purportedly noticed the officers refusing to pay for their meals during the dispute, came over and told them that they could stay after all. But the damage was done.

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The detectives, feeling embarrassed, decided to leave anyway. Belleville Police Capt. Don Sax condemned the employee’s treatment of the group in a statement to Fox News’ Todd Starnes.

“The Belleville Police Department is very disheartened by the lack of respect shown to on-duty sworn police officers,” he said. “Until further notice all on duty Belleville Police officers are banned from Denny’s Restaurant unless responding to an official call for service.”

To clear up the situation, a Denny’s spokesperson said that the manager making the initial request was wrong and that police in or out of uniform may carry weapons in the company’s restaurants. The spokesperson dismissed the incident as “miscommunication” and said that the manager was simply trying to do the right thing to address another customer’s complaints.

(H/T: Fox News’ Todd Starnes)

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Comments (438)

searcher619
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:15pm
The manager must not like the safety armed officers frequenting their establishment brings. Stupidity knows no bounds.
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- Old Truckers
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Maybe the “patron” was just trying to clear the room of those pesky police, with their guns………..
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Right.
  May as well hang a sign up on the entry door:
  “Welcome Criminals & Armed Robbers — We’ve Just Offended The Entire Law Enforcement Community”
  
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- PeachyinGA
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:56pm
  For any criminal in Belleville, IL thinking Dennys would be an easy hit … well, life just got a little bit sweeter for you.
  
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- Cemoto78
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:08pm
  Adding Denny’s to the list of places I will not frequent. Stupidity has no bounds.
  
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- poorrichard09
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:25pm
  “Gun sensitivity?” How about a new word “gunophobia” (like homophobia or islamophobia) “an unreasonable and irrational fear of guns.”
  
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- OldSurfRat
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:27pm
  Wow
  
  New Denny’s getting ready to open in my city and now I will not eat there. Just another to add to my list.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:31pm
  Well fooey, now I have to add Denney’s to my no fly list even though I have been in many Denney’s with my double barrel derringer in my boot and my wife had her .38 Lady Smith in her purse. This is so dumb, they will never know who is armed and who aren’t unless they put up metal detectors or give a pat down. The clown complaining probably wanted to rob them and would squak the loudest for the police to get there ASAP if they were robbed.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:32pm
  Last i checked cops are civilians to… They been above the law for years. If i can’t bring in my gun then neither should they. We only need traffic cops and detectives. No need for regular cops..They always show up late and after the fact. Don’t need them. My grandfather who was a cheif of police even said the same thing….
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:37pm
  @PoorRichard
  “Hoplophobia is a pejorative neologism originally coined to describe an “irrational aversion to weapons, as opposed to justified apprehension about those who may wield them.” It is sometimes used more generally to describe the “fear of weapons” or the “highly salient danger of these weapons ” or the “fear of armed citizens”.
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:38pm
  And that customer who was offended would be the first to plead for help if an armed intruder came into Denny’s. All the officer had to say was that she was required to carry in case of an emergency.
  My S-I-Law is a Fed Corrections officer and is supposed to have his with him at all times. Not in sight, but with him.
  The customer was probably an environ-mentalist, anti-war, anti gun, anti-American.
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:43pm
  @Poorrichard09……”Gunophobia”/”Gunophobic” are terms which should be used from now on to describe any anti-gun zealot.
  Yes….we should use the same tactics that the socialist/communist left uses all the time. The Left has perfected the art of controlling the context of conversation for years.
  
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- yougottabekidding
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:43pm
  Civilwar
  
  Amazing how that gene pool works!
  
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- TheseTruths
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:44pm
  @PoorRichard
  Excellent idea! We need to start using the tactics of the Left against them.
  
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- echo216610
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:48pm
  seems to me the criminals are the ones violating the gun free zone and refusing to pay for their meals when they get called on it. isn’t that what they try to tell us all the time.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:51pm
  Who’s gene pool?
  
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- pitboss711
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:52pm
  So, now we know that Denny’s hires idiots.
  
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- THERAPTURCOMES
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:55pm
  Oh just great another gun free zone that is actually a killing zone
  
  Hey all you psychos, now you know where to go for your next mass killing and be sure to pay your regards to the manager while you are blasting away.
- Security Mom
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:14pm
  I wouldn’t blame Denny’s for one idiot employee. Back when I worked in law enforcement, the Denny’s near our office was extremely LE friendly, offering discounts and giving great service. No company is 100% free of jerks, so I plan to continue eating there.
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:22pm
  Here is another definition of “pejorative neologism”. Obviously…the patron at Denny’s who wanted the gun “OUT” has major issues.
  
  In psychiatry, the term neologism is used to describe the use of words that have meaning only to the person who uses them, independent of their common meaning.[3] This tendency is considered normal in children, but in adults can be a symptom of psychopathy[4] or a thought disorder (indicative of a psychotic mental illness, such as schizophrenia).[5] People with autism also may create neologisms.[6] Additionally, use of neologisms may be related to aphasia acquired after brain damage resulting from a stroke or head injury.[7]
  
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- JohnnyinthePedros
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:26pm
  Hey crackheads! There’s a new soft target in Belleville, Ill!
  
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- RightThinking1
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:29pm
  Cavallo,
  You might have included with your definition of ‘Hoplophobic’, some symptoms: “May cause sweating, faintness, discomfort, rapid pulse, nausea, sleeplessness, nondescript fears, more, at mere thought of guns. Presence of working firearms may cause panic attack.”
  It is clear to me that the complaining customer was suffering an attack of hoplophobia. Once again, the problem is not the gun, but a loon…, oh wait, not fair to the bird…
  
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- Techcon
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:51pm
  These SPOILED BRAT HOPLOPHOBES do not differentiate between GOOD guys and BAD guys.
  
  THEY SEE ONLY THE NEGATIVE. THEY HATE GUNS!
  
  Brat: “I hate fishing hooks—they were designed to kill fish.”
  Adult: “Yeah, stupid? What do you think you just ate?”
  
  P.S. I’ve always thought to way to beat back the “Gun Grabbing Gestapo” was to go after excessive cop firepower, you know, the whole, stupid, “weapons of war” B.S? I mean, if WE don’t NEED them, then why do the cops? But this is MUCH better.
  
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- Gator_222
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 4:23pm
  @civilwarcometh
  
  “Last i checked cops are civilians to… They been above the law for years. If i can’t bring in my gun then neither should they. We only need traffic cops and detectives. No need for regular cops..They always show up late and after the fact. Don’t need them. My grandfather who was a cheif of police even said the same thing….”
  
  This was meant as a joke post correct? If not you and your grandfather need a big old reality check … While I agree in most cases officers are on the scene AFTER a crime is committed, there are occasions where a uniformed officer has stopped a crime in commission. I served for 20 years as an officer, and I can site many cases where officers arriving on the scene during the act stopped the crime in progress … Including the justified shooting affair I was involved in where an armed robber at a pharmacy was stopped for good with nine .40 caliber rounds (He pointed his weapon at the wrong people)
  
  I will leave you with the words spoken to us at the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy on my first day in attendance …
  
  “You people are about to embark on a journey that will lead to your becoming the most powerful people in America … You will be the only people legally empowered to take human life 24 hours a day … You will be held to higher standards than your fellow citizens … Never betray that trust”
  
  Cops are not mere “civilians”
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 4:26pm
  Let me be the Devil’s advocate for a minute without, hopefully, getting too much flack for it.
  
  Maybe this Denny’s employee is a gun owner. And maybe this gun owner is getting fed up with Illinois style politics. And maybe this gun owner is retaliating for Illinois banning all guns and wanted to make a statement to show the other side just what gun banning is all about and how it feels when the shoe is on the other foot.
  
  I’m just saying maybe…Might not be the case, but just maybe.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 4:47pm
  @GATOR: No i was not jokeing and neither was my grandfather. You don’t like the truth to bad. Oh that’s right your a cop no wonder you disagree. Affraid of loseing some of that power you guy’s throw around.. Sorry i don’t by into your crapp we need this many cop’s with as much power as you have over the people. The police are NEVER held to their action’s the way i would be if i broke the law. There are more bad cop’s than their are good was anymore. The United States Police Force<< The biggest gang in the country never to be punished for their crimes….Union thugs is what they have become and nothing more. When you have to be held accountable the same as i do then we can talk till then NO SIR….
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:05pm
  CAVALLO – Thanks Spock.
  
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- myrwo6
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:09pm
  Just goes to show that any idiot can manage a denny’s eatery. My favorite meal of the day is breakfast and I must say to Denny’s: YOUR BACON SUCKS!!
  
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- hpyagl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:37pm
  Civilwar
  I am not a cop and I disagree with you! With a name like “Civilwarcometh”, it says alot about who you are. An arrogant SOB who thinks he will get his chance to shoot a bunch a people when a civil war breaks out. If civil war really does break out, It will be zealous fools like you who get capped after 20 or 30 rounds and all that ammo you have stored up will just go to waste or be used by someone else. I guarantee there are thousands who are a better shot than you who have cool heads unlike yourself.
  
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- proliance
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:09pm
  The government in Illinois doesn’t allow private citizens to carry guns to protect themselves, they why should government employees be allowed to?
  
  Until the thugs who run the state allow the people to carry, then the people shouldn’t allow the government to carry.
  
  Hey cop, feel naked without your gun? Now you know how we feel.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:30pm
  Now Criminals knowThat Denny’s is a “sitting-duck” zone.
  
  The liberal useful idiots have got to be the world’s worst chess players.
  
  They can NOT think beyond that first move.
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:52pm
  I would hazard a guess that it’s an Illinois Denney’s thing since Denney’s corporate recently had a pro second amendment advertisement. Of course since the nutjob in Ct, killed his mother and stole her guns to go on a shooting spree at the nearest unarmed victim zone, who knows what the idiot lawyers are advising their corporate clients to do now. Funny how so few MSM outlets are talking about the mass shooting at the theater in San Antonio. I guess that since the wannabe mass murderer and only one victim were shot because a good WOMAN with a gun put four rounds into the miscreant before he could shoot more people keeps it from supporting their agenda and therefore less newsworthy.
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:57pm
  More than likely, the manager is a gun owner and was actually making a statement about the gun-ban that was/is being debated in the Illinois senate (has been put down for now, thankfully).
  
  For one, I agree with the manager: if civilians aren’t allowed to carry guns in Illinois, cops shouldn’t be, either.
  
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- toto
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:09pm
  They should indeed oblige them, AND NEVER show up to an armed robbery. Just hope no innocent people get hurt and the manager is front and center when the bad guys show up. THEN there would be two winners. Justice and Darwinism.
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:13pm
  Is this just one store or Nation wide??? I think Dennys is going to regret this for a long time!!
  
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- nonofmybiznez
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:13pm
  We don’t have to frequent their establishment either. I feel safe when an armed officer is near. New Year’s day I broke down in an area where there are frequent illegal traffic and was scared in my own country. I called a friend to help and when this 6ft6in buddy showed up I asked if he was packing and he said no. I was still scared until I got the heck out of there. I don’t feel safe anymore in my own country. I would have been carrying but I had just come from California dunes where they don’t allow guns.
  
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- SgtB
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:42pm
  Turn about is fair play! The LEO’s across this nation continually trample our RIGHTS to defend ourselves, even in our own homes; and somehow you all are crying with outrage when a single officer is asked to keep their weapon in their vehicle while they dine in a privately owned establishment?!?
  
  Seriously, you people must be devoid of critical thinking skills. I personally vote that EVERY officer should hand in their guns immediately and permanently until they recognize that the Citizens of this nation have just as much and even more of a right to defend themselves as an officer on duty. By the way, the 2nd amendment says “arms”. It does not say firearms, guns, bolt action rifles, bows & arrows, or any other specific armament. The ATF and local law enforcement are constantly confiscating our rights. The ban on explosives is unconstitutional. The tax stamp on automatic weapons is unconstitutional. The defacto registration of guns through FBI background check information is unconstitutional. And all of these are things permitted and promoted by the NRA. Which is why I personally will never support the NRA. To me, they are as much a tyrannical group as the Congress they cow tow to.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:28pm
  I’m not sure how to feel about Denny’s. On the one hand there’s John Metz, owner of 30 or so Denny’s franchises, who said he was going to charge customers 5% more for each meal to cover the medical insurance he was going to have to provide for his waiters and waitresses under Obamacare (at least the ones he didn’t cut hours on). Alternatively, customers could pay the regular charge for their meal, and then not tip the waitstaff.
  
  I doubt the people who work for him liked that idea much, but f-’em. And if people aren’t willing to work for him for tips, the can go elsewhere. No smart capitalist is going to provide health insurance for their employees if they are poor and desperate for any job! It’s called supply and demand and Christian virtue! You’d have to be stupid to reduce your income to pay for some worthless bum’s health insurance. You got a love a guy like that!
  
  So I’m in a quandary. Eat at Denny’s or not?
- yougottabekidding
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 9:56pm
  civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:51pm
  Who’s gene pool?
  
  My point!
  
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- moonlight on the bay
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:18pm
  I was thinking the same thing as Bodybag when I heard the story this afternoon. Basically an invitation to robbers: “Come on in, no danger of being challenged here.” Yet another Gun Free Zone. Wonderful.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 10:40pm
  Denny’s is a dump anyway. I have only eaten there three times in my life:
  
  1. When I was a kid, my parents stopped there for lunch. My father’s lunch was brought to him with eggs stuck to the plate from breakfast.
  2. When I was in high-school, the manager that I worked for took us to breakfast after an all night shift at work. The eggs were runny & the bacon was almost raw.
  3. About 10-years ago when my wife and I went there for lunch. There was ketchup on my plate, rock hard from breakfast (or some previous meal).
  
  I think the Denny’s manager was a complete idiot listening to some stupid customer that was offended by law enforcement officers & their standard equipment. However, it doesn’t matter what Denny’s attempts for damage control, I haven’t eaten there in years & never will again.
  
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- Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:15am
  “Police Chief Bans Officers From Denny’s After Manager Tells Detective to Leave Her Gun in the Car or Leave”
  
  From the above list of comments, one can only quote a stunned Ripley:
  “Did IQs just drop sharply while I was away?”
  
  Well, I’m back to remind you WHY there are “police”! Here’s a quote from a really big city’s Mayor:
  
  “I have my own army in the NYPD, which is the seventh biggest army in the world,” said [New York City Mayor Michael] Bloomberg, reports The New York Observer.
  
  That’s right. Today’s “police departments” are nothing more than “standing armies” that America’s Founders warned us against (because they had them, too). They are tyranny’s thugs. Sorry for the splash of cold water in the face to some of you who haven’t thought they are.
  
  They are “hired” to “uphold” the “law” passed by “politicians”. Excuse me? If we Americans walk into Denny’s with our guns, for breakfast, they’ll start a gun fight when we resist being accosted or kidnapped. Just ordinary government thugs:
  
  “LAPD Police-thugs Bravely Subdue Dangerous TV News Camera”
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkvNrtk6GJ0
  
  No, DISBANDING those standing army “police departments” is the FIRST step to regaining our STOLEN LIBERTY.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 7:41am
  Don’t boycott Denny’s based on one stupid manager in Illinois. Texas Denny’s (I’m sure) would welcome concealed carry patrons. If you’re in a blue state that is for gun control, maybe, but all restaurants are not like that. And with that said, man things must have changed in 18 years since I’ve been to Northern Illinois. I remember restaurants in North Chicago being very cop friendly. It gave them free protection. And the officers would do extra patrols because they knew who was there. I remember being a ride along, and an officer didn’t see anyone in a local mom and pop restaurant, and stopped to do a well-being check. They happened to be in the back, and fine.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:47am
  I don’t feel safe when there are armed officers around. It is actually very threatening.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:50am
  “The Belleville Police Department is very disheartened by the lack of respect shown to on-duty sworn police officers,” he said.
  
  Heh. Welcome to my world, the world of the lawful carrier of sidearms, cops. Fun ain’t it? I heard the interview with some of the cops, they were all agast that anybody would even think it was wise to disarm police, laughed at the temerity of being asked to disarm, etc. and I thought “Yeah buddy, that happens to a lot of other law abiding citizens everyday, many time perpetrated by you guys in blue”.
  
  They really don’t get that they’re not given the “privilege” of bearing arms, they are simply accorded the same right that the rest of us have as well. They really do think that somehow they are an elite few who are enabled to do things the rest of us are not.
  
  In any event, it was funny to hear the incredulity in their voices during the interview I heard.
  
  That said, asking anybody to disarm is stupid. People can be so primitive and emotional and illogical. And by can be I mean “are most of the time”.
  
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- lordjosh
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:54am
  @ Gator
  
  Gator says, “I will leave you with the words spoken to us at the Indiana Law Enforcement Academy on my first day in attendance …
  
  “You people are about to embark on a journey that will lead to your becoming the most powerful people in America … You will be the only people legally empowered to take human life 24 hours a day … You will be held to higher standards than your fellow citizens … Never betray that trust”
  
  Cops are not mere “civilians”
  
  Proof positive why the police need to be disarmed and debadged. You have got to be kidding you freakin’ psychopath.
  
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- CABERNETQHS
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:40am
  @CIVILWARCOMETH
  
  I’m not a “cop” or a detective, but I would bet you have been on the wrong side of the law. Your disdain and that of your grandpa for officers of the law is suspect. I’d rather dine with cops than gene pool bottom feeders.
  
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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:42am
  He just wants him murdered as he hates all police…”who acted stupidly”!! I too would never go in that particular s-hole Denny’s (not all are a-holes likethis guy!).
  
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- Le Sellers
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:33pm
  poorrichard09 sed:
  >“Gun sensitivity?” How about a new word “gunophobia” (like homophobia or
  >islamophobia) “an unreasonable and irrational fear of guns.”
  
  There’s already a word for that: “haplophobia”. It’s the unreasonable fear of weapons. (The ancients didn’t have gunpowder, and we have no way of knowing what they’d call a modern firearm.)
  
  Mr. O’bama, will there ever BE any Jobs?
  
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- EgbertThrockmorton
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:15pm
  As a matter of Family Principle, we do NOT drive through Illinois at all. We do not spend money in Illinois at all. We drive around that state and the extra gas, food and lodging is money well spent.
  As a matter of Family Principle, we do NOT eat at any Denny’s restaurant, after our last time, in San Clemente, California Denny’s years ago, we walked in with our then very young children, and two of the “servers” were duking it out, rolling on the floor, calling each other every filthy name in the book. No more Denny’s for our family, and now our three adult children’s families.(their choice) What is IN Illinois that could possibly be worthwhile foe my wife and I to have to subject ourselves to their truly idiotic laws? Not to mention the inherent public corruption in that cesspool. Vote with your own wallet folks, it is far better than voting politically, especially in Illinois or Chicago-Murder Capital USA
  
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- flntlok1949
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:42pm
  A manager? And he didn’t know the rules Denny’s operates by? He’d be out on his can if I owned the place!
  
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- LovingJesus
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:36pm
  Won’t be too much longer before guns will be banned and no one will be allowed to own them. The powers that be will be kicking down doors arresting anyone who has a gun, then where will we be? Even the true criminals will reign supreme. The Bible talks about famine in these the last days, it makes you wonder how it will all come about.
  
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- Black Horse
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:50am
  @LT_Scrounge
  
  “because a good WOMAN with a gun put four rounds into the miscreant before he could shoot more people”
  
  Just to be fair, you did know that she was an off-duty deputy sheriff, right?
  
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- Black Horse
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:01am
  Wow! I guess what bothers me in these replies is the apparent hatred of police by some of you. There are bad and good in every group of humans, police included, but in the main these are good people that do a crappy job for not a lot of pay and frequently put their lives on the line. If you want to hate their unions, go for it. If you want to hate the bad eggs among them, fine, but voicing that kind of hate for them as a group really disturbs me.
  
  I fully realize the limitations of the police, such as that they usually show up after the fact to get details to investigate, but they do help people all the time.
  
  Some of you should get some professional help.
  
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taintso
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:15pm
I think the cops in Chicago should give up there guns and just carry night sticks. They have gun laws to protect them.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:33pm
  It isn’t in Chicago it’s in southern Illinois. Nothing more annoying than people who think all of Illinois is Chicago. The town this happened in is across the river from St Louis,MO.
  
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- apollo18
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:39pm
  Anybody remember how well those “sticks” worked with Rodney King WAY BACK in ’93?
  
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- BlackCrow
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:45pm
  Have you ever been in East St. Louis? I wouldn’t without a chain gun on the roof of the car.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:46pm
  “Nothing more annoying than people who think all of Illinois is Chicago.”
  
  I can think of a lot of things more annoying than that.
  
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- sharkee
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:59pm
  and this is why Chicago is a cesspool of violence, and should be seperated from the whole state of Illinios . CHICAGO politics aka “THE MACHINE” , have pushed their beliefs on the people long enough.
  
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- Flakeyone
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:11pm
  Night-Sticks are still a weapon. I think they should give up guns, night-sticks and any other form of potentially “people-harming” devices and they should all immediately carry pillows. Then when someone threatens them, they can start a pillow-fight. They can follow that up with a new law that states the it is against the law for the bad-guys to also carry concealed weapons or pillows too. Then the officers will have the upper hand as they will be the only people allowed to carry pillows. It will be a one-sided pillow fight and always fall in the favor of the police officers. Just make it a new law, that makes it so, right? Every bad-guy will play fair and not arm themselves with pillows, right? They won’t cheat and put larger, heavier feathers in their pillows and gain the upper hand during a confrontation with the police, will they? Surely they will follow the new laws to the letter, just like we do and like the officers do. Right?
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:14pm
  I live in saint louis county and i NEVER cross the river into eastSTL. I mean little chicago…
  
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- apexmoon
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:18pm
  “Have you ever been in East St. Louis?”
  
  Strip clubs and casinos, that’s about it over there.
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:49pm
  @JCLDWL…..Yep, and not far from Alton, Ill…home of Fast Freddie’s. Right over the bridge from St. Louie. Good eats, and a great place to stop on the way to the mile dirt-track m/c races on Mem-Day or Labor Day at the Ill. St. fair grounds in Springfield.
  Try’in to lighten it up a bit here!
  
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- apexmoon
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:55pm
  “…home of Fast Freddie’s.”
  
  Fast Eddie’s not Freddie’s
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:18pm
  Last time i went to fast eddies they had jumbo shrimp for 25cents each. Don’t go over their now screw that state………..
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:28pm
  You are right….Fast Eddie’s! Sorry for the slip. Have enough of their T’s and can cooler’s that I should’ve known better. Semi-senior moment, I guess!
  It’s still a great place, no matter what you call it.
  
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- Candorgram
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:48pm
  I live in Belleville, and though I really, really, REALLY hate living in Illinois, I must say that Belleville, and most of southern Illinois shares very little in common with Chicago. I’m glad the police chief spoke-out on the matter. The complaint was ridiculous.
  
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- Stljarhead
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 8:30pm
  Civilwarcometh, North County here, I just told a friend he needs to move out of the Fascist state to the east of us before they kick in his door and “accidentally” shoot him when they come for his Glock.
  I won’t go to Illinois any more either. A friend of mine owns a small resort campground on the east bank of the Mississippi and suggested we go shooting over there. I told him he was insane if he thought I’d bring my guns into that totalitarian, gun-grabbing cess-pit.
  
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:14pm
A MANAGER that doesn’t know the Rules like the back of her / his hand should not be a MANAGER.

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- apexmoon
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:29pm
  For all the restaurants I worked in while going through college I don’t think I ever had a manger that knew what was going on.
  
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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:33pm
  Don’t like food there anyway. Several years ago I was sitting at the counter and could see the salad area. I was delighted to see the waitresses using tongs to fill salad bowls and then I saw one using her hands. It occurred to me, when the mgr. was in eyeshot, they used the tongs, when he had to do something else, they used their hands. YUKKIE. Will NEVER eat there again. They’re all as bad tho.
  
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normalmom
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:13pm
They need a loss in business, that is not only disrespecting a police officer but violating a persons second amendment rights.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:35pm
  Illinois is the only state that doesn’t have a concealed carry law and the Dems in their state are trying to ban all military style weapons from rifles to handguns. Story on Drudge.
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:45pm
  normal-
  
  yes, and…
  
  the patron who allegedly complained no doubt has an ego the size of the moon; ‘I
  INSIST that the officer remove his/her arms…
  
  You know the type:
  
  -this person has the loudest mouth while saying nothing
  -as a child they always had to have their way
  -they are right about everything
  -they interrupt you while you are engaged in conversation, and then take control
  -they scream across a room so all can hear
  -they teach that spanking a child is criminal (thus their own weedlike behaviour)
  -their cell phone calls are always important
  -they give gifts only to be noticed themselves
  -they think CNN Cooper/BLitzer/Griffin are gods
  -need I go on?
  
  people like this cannot gather 4 good words to make a thouight, and are an extreme boor
  
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- normalmom
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:54pm
  John you are so right I know some people like than, they make me have to fervently not want to kick their butts into the next world. As for the spanking it was one of the worst things done for schools by taking away discipline.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:11pm
  School is NOT a right….. Forced to go to school forced brainwashing. No one has the RIGHT to touch my child in any way.
  
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- normalmom
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:23pm
  civilwar… no one said anything about school being a right, no I don’t approve of schools these days my boys are home schooled. However when you see kids who don’t fit in with others and have too much attitude sent to behavioral class instead of regular education where they get to sit in a padded room to take a nap instead of learn ANYTHING there are flaws. Schools are in horrible condition and will not improve until there is genuine discipline back in schools.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:23pm
  Blame the parents NOT the paddel………..
  
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- TheseTruths
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:46pm
  @JCLDWL
  Yes, for those who keep saying Chicago is not Illinois, there are gun-grabbers in that state.
  
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- john vincent
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:26pm
  civil-
  
  normal is merely making the point that there is much mischievousness bound up in a child that needs attention; the nuns used to ‘discipline’ in the form of a paddle, and no one complained. Then, the kid got paddled again when he got home!
  
  People discipline their dogs, and the dogs give them more respect. There is a link between the lack of discipline and people gone wild. But the connection with ‘school’ and the lady at Denny’s complaining about arms: she was no doubt one who was never disciplined, for it is obvious she does not know her place in public and society.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:50pm
  That’s why said school is not a right and no one should be forced to go. If your kid can’t act right in school he should be sent home till he can act right. Remove the problem so those who want to learn can with out haveing to subject the other kid’s and teacher’s to bad parenting… It’s all about the mighty tax dollar not the kid’s or education. The whole system is flaud…..
  
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- gothope
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 4:31pm
  How much respect will you have for them when they come to take your guns.
  
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salvawhoray
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:12pm
I would have just told them to call the cops.
I won’t eat the foot at that point because they may spit in it.
I can’t what for the Civil war.
Us against the Libs, and Libs don’t believe in guns.
It should be a slaughter.

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- Popp40
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Why do you think Obama established the TSA and has ordered all that ammo for all of the government offfices. But there are quite a few liberals that have guns, they just believe that you and I shouldn’t have them. As for those who don’t believe anyone should have a gun, Obama is using them as pawns.
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:51pm
  Call the cops! That was great!
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:49pm
  I got news for you the libs are getting armed plus they have the government backing them this will be no cake walk. Don’t fool yourself and always be prepared for the worse……..
  
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- proliance
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:12pm
  Obama established the TSA?
  
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KevINtampa
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:12pm
Actually…

While I believe that establishments that hang no firearms on premises signs are doing no one a service, if they do post the sign it should be applied to everyone even our law enforcers. No one is above the law, even those who enforce it; and in most, if not all, states the law designates that anyone carrying a weapon on private property that has posted a no gun sign is trespassing. This means that if you are a 7-11 or Wally Mart you might want to re-consider not allowing licensed gun owners from carrying on your premises as it would have to apply to law enforcers as well.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:24pm
  Wally Marty allows concealed and open carry on their property. At least corporate has no policy against it. They do have a policy of associates not being allowed to carry weapons open or concealed while at work, however.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:28pm
  I may be wrong- but i think all cops “on duty” are required to carry their side-arm.
  They should be able to eat wherever they want without having to compromise this rule.
  
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- mlgunner
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:28pm
  That is NOT a law, and Police are under no obligation to either comply or enforce such rules. I have in the past asked OFF DUTY police to voluntarily leave their weapons in the car when they enter a drinking establishment or club where I was the security, but that was only because they were drinking. On duty police, even when on a lunch or dinner break, are not obligated to remove their weapons, anywhere, and are usually not allowed to in any case as a department policy.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:38pm
  You are mistaken Kevin. No private citizen has the right to disarm a police officer before they enter their business. They are armed in the performance of their duties.
  
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- MisterSarcastic
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:41pm
  Not true.
  Property owners can decide what people can and can’t do on a person by person basis. One has the option of leaving if one doesn’t like it.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:45pm
  Gunner is correct, just about all PDs have a policy that a sworn officer must carry his/her sidearm at all times, even if off duty but they must have their badge with them (not necessarily displayed, but on person). However, if they’re not on official duty, if you ask them to leave they must leave as any civilian must leave. You can ask them to leave their sidearm in the car, but they can’t so may as well just ask them to leave.
  
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- apollo18
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:04pm
  kevintampa…..
  
  Maybe you should read the Florida state statutes you’re referencing. That IS NOT what they say. Establishments have no standing whatsoever to dictate what deputies or officers do.
  
  “No one is above the law…” ???
  Are you serious, boy? Where’ve you been the last four years…..?
  
  And from what I read, it doesn’t say your “trespassing”. It’s unsettled case law, last I heard. (Without display or “brandishing”)
  
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- Exiled
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Everybody seems to forget that there are differences between a corporate “rule” and a law. Denny’s can make whatever rules they want, and if you break those rules, it doesn’t mean you’re breaking the law. It means you’re breaking a rule. Like sneaking candy into a movie theater that has “no outside food or drink” posted on the door. With that said, on or off duty, no officer in his right mind is going to go anywhere (ESPECIALLY a Denny’s) without his sidearm. Can you think of anybody in the world that would be on more hit-lists than a police detective?
  
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- subic
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:29pm
  When I was a territory sales rep and on the road for weeks at a time it was company policy to carry no weapons in the company car ( I had a new F-150). Do you think I was going to be out there unarmed? NO WAY! My personal item inventory was a need to know basis and NO ONE needed to know!
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:14pm
  From what I understand if you have a weapon and enter a business that has a no weapons policy, it is not trespassing unless they ask you to leave, and you refuse. At least that is how the law operates in Missouri. That actually applies for anyone asked to leave. Business owners can ask anyone to leave and they must comply unless it is an officer of the law or other emergency personnel performing their duties (EMT, Firefighter, etc). It is a very unlikely scenario where a manager asks an police officer not on official business to leave. It’s seen as uncouth, and disrespectful towards an individual who’s supposed job it is to defend you (its not; their job is to enforce State will, but people still have a Norman Rockwell idea of police officers in general).
  
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:11pm
BRAVO Chief. BRAVO. And when their Burglar Alarm goes off, i would take my sweet time getting there. Maybe stop at the House of Pancakes for a quick bite first.

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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:40pm
  Absolutely
  
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- Watchyer6
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 5:31pm
  No, next time that Denny’s needs police assistance, let them call Fairview Heights or O’Fallon or somewhere.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 11:35pm
  Understand completely the sentiment here but what if a patron gets killed?
  They had nothing to do with it.
  Just sayin’
  
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john vincent
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:11pm
The manager should have asked the customer to leave….

for proving to be a moron

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lwpenn
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:11pm
I have had my last meal there.

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- apollo18
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:32pm
  Not only have I had my last meal at Denny’s…..
  
  What kind of customer would complain about a law enforcement officer being armed, with their duty weapon?
  
  If you’re “working”, it includes (at least) your weapon, badge, proper ID and communications. Anything less & you’re out of uniform.
  
  The Denny’s I’ve seen are open 24 hrs. Some in some “not so good” neighborhoods. So they can pay for the security they got for free. That’s why places like theirs offer reduced prices for LEO meals.
  
  Hey, next time Denny’s needs to call 911, they can reach for their Obamaphones!
  
  And $1 for a slice of toast? Can’t fix STUPID!
  
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- ArmedAndReallyPissed
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:35pm
  GEE, if we all stop eating there, Michael moore will have the Kountries Restaurants all to himself !!!!
  Well, i guess he alone WOULD be able to keep them afloat.
  
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- Shasta
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:23pm
  @Armed, it wouldn’t work that way. Even though fat-a$$ Michael Moore demands that ordinary citizens be disarmed, he travels with armed body guards. From the left it’s always “Do as I say, not…”
  
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MisterSarcastic
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:10pm
As the owner of a small retail business I would have told the complaining customer (in a tactful way) to deal with it or find somewhere else to shop.

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Swimming-with-the-Sharks
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:10pm
And be sure to take your time getting there the next time a Dennys is robbed by a gun toting thug. Stop at IHOP for lunch first.

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ferggie
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:09pm
They should have published the name of the POS that complained. It would be a shame if the fool called for help and was put on hold.

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Dkoonz
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:08pm
The food is to greasy and gives me gas.

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RETIREDUSAFDEFENDER
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:07pm
Dennys food is terrible anyways….no more Dennys for me!

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OKNative
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:07pm
Goodbye Denny’s. No more business from my family!

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- DoseofReality
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:45pm
  So because one employee at one Dennys made a bad decision that was later reversed by the general manager you will no longer go to any Dennys ever again? That might be the dumbest thing ive ever heard…..
  
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:05pm
What was it that Jim Crocce used to sing? Oh yeah, “you don’t spit on Superman’s cape!” They just opened up an invitation to be robbed, and often.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:10pm
  Oops, that should be Tug On Superman’s cape. Been a while.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:10pm
  Just what I was thinking.
  
  Hey Criminals: We’re open for “business”
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:13pm
  The manager needs to be demoted or fired for being stupid. That is how you fix that.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:16pm
  I think it was You don’t tug on Superman’s cape ,You don’t spit into the wind You don’t pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger And you don’t mess around with Jim. (who got stabbed, shot, and killed at the end of the song). I believe the moral was, there is always someone bigger and/or meaner than you.
  
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- Toltepeceno
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:35pm
  Yep, “slim” was bigger than “Jim” at the end.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:39pm
  Hi RJJ,
  
  I guess the Officer got the new version of a Denny’s Grand Slam…. : (
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:43pm
  It’s you don’t tug on supermans cape you don’t spit into the wind you don’t pull the mask of the old lone ranger and you don’t mess around with Jim.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:00pm
  Hi MONK, That sounds about right.
  Yeah guys, haven’t heard the song in quite a while but the simple analogy is that a business does not need to go out of it’s way to piss off the local law enforcement. When I was a cop I would have responded to this location regardless, but I knew others who I suppose would have taken their dear time to arrive. Then comes the lost paperwork when the establishment needs it for insurance purposes.
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:21pm
  Do you think Jim and Leroy Brown we’re related? They were both bullies who suffer similar fates in Croce songs.
  
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Mapache
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:03pm
The manager probably saw an opportunity to push an agenda. The complaining patron could have been told they were law enforcement and if they did not want to eat in the presence of armed officers they could go someplace else.

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- searcher619
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:19pm
  The manager needs to be let go or demoted. Who in their right mind thinks it’s OK to refuse service to a police officer simply because they are armed?
  
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o2nine17
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:03pm
I eat at Dennys in R.I. all the time, the local cops are always welcomed! We need to encourage a few states exit the union and join Great Britain, Calif, Conn, Mass, Idaho, and Illinois. We can get by on 45 states just fine. In fact Californians are fleeing in record numbers to Texas…

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- Popp40
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:11pm
  I hope they don’t turn Texas into the next CA……better known as liberal/progressive infiltration
  
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- eddymunster
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:12pm
  @ o2nine17
  
  Idaho is one of the most conservative states in the country. I hope that was an error on your part or you are misinformed.
  
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- KissMyAmericanFlag
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:15pm
  Why did you include Idaho in your dump list?
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:17pm
  Like locusts. They devour anything edible and then move on to the next fertile field.
  
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- The_Veteran
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:22pm
  Too late Pop, they’re already here and bringing their family and friends. It will be like Colorado soon enough. They’re like a virus that jumps from host to host. Consuming all it can and then jumps to the next state to destroy it’s economy until the entire country is dead. The same happens with Florida and those damn Snowbirds coming down from NY.
  
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- thegreatcarnac
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:49pm
  Attention Californians coming to Texas…, unless you are conservative …we don’t want your dumbazz.
  
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- CloudNine
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:10pm
  @02NINE17
  Did you mean to imply another state than Idaho? I live in Idaho and can assure you we are nothing like the states your list included us in. We allow open carry here and many, many people carry concealed. We have a strong Castle Doctrine as defined in Statute 6-808. CIVIL IMMUNITY FOR SELF-DEFENSE. There are very few states in the country I would feel safer in than Idaho. You do something stupid here and you may not live long enough to post on Facebook.
  
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- o2nine17
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Sorry all: that was a map-brainfart Oregon, not Idaho …
  
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- free@last
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:36pm
  Yes sir!!…………. Old Californian myself, now a rookie Texan… and glad to have left “Them” behind… No contamination in my blood… Ye.. haw…..
  
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- flipper1073
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 6:43pm
  What the He!! did Idaho Do to get on your Stupid States List!
  
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HMNSC
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:02pm
Maybe they should have told the person complaining to go elsewhere.

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HotFixIt
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:01pm
Makes me think twice before I eat at a Dennys again!

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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:06pm
  shucks………..no more dennys………….
  
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RightUnite
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:00pm
Eh, too late…. Time to boycott Denny’s….

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:25pm
  RIGHTUNITE, I guess that I am lucky. I’d have to make a seventy mile round trip just to boycott a Denny’s. Although I did have a few late night meals at a Denny’s…..in Tampa, back in the ’70s.
  
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- steelpanther
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:27pm
  Why is it that one nut manager suddenly means an entire franchise is bad, don’t go to that Denny’s. I’m not sure if it’s a company store or a franchise brand, but if it’s franchise each store is owned by a person and they pay licensing to use the brand and to sell their products. Blaming the franchise over how one store is being run is absurd.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:52pm
  My current employment situation has caused me to boycott all the local businesses whether I want to or not.
  
  I do think that if the Officers had finished their meals they should have paid for them. There’s not enough info here to know what part of their meal they were at.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:52pm
  I read the article on drudge. Another manager apologized but it was too late. The officers left anyway. Don’t think I would bother eating there now that they let the criminals know they don’t want the police at that particular Denny’s
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Hi MONK, the problem is that there will be a long standing riff between the restaurant and the department. The police will have memories longer than elephants when it comes to being dissed.
  
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gothope
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:00pm
If a citizen can’t carry a gun why should a police officer be allowed to.

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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:36pm
  Uh, i don’t even know how to respond to your post,i may even have had a mini sroke while reading it:(
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:46pm
  I’m a citizen I can carry a gun. It’s called a concealed carry permit.
  
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- apollo18
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:22pm
  gothope…
  
  Where do you live? Mayberry?
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:28pm
  I carry a gun without a permit. West Virginia is an open carry state. As long as it can be seen from 3 sides No permit is needed. My 1911 is very visible. ;)
  
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- gothope
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:37pm
  whatthe
  I’m just saying if a restaurant is stupid enough to not allow guns why should they have to allow a cop. A conceal carry holder is no more dangerous than most police officers. Unless you think the rules don’t apply to cops like most cops do.
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:01pm
  As has been stated elsewhere in this topic cops are required to carry their side arm at all times while on duty. A business doesn’t have the right to tell an on duty officer that they can’t carry their weapon inside. Some departments also require off duty officers to carry but in that case they can be asked to leave. The officers in the article were on duty therefore the manager was out of line.
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 3:04pm
  Also the fact that you think most cops think themselves above the law or rules is highly insulting. as an investigator for the local county prosecutors office I work with cops all the time and none of the ones I work with act that way. You watch too much TV if that’s what you think.
  
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- SidneyDave
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 4:04pm
  Police, firemen, and EMT’s should not speed to the emergencies since citizens are not allowed to speed. Your an idiot.
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:33pm
  @ gothope I think i understand what you are trying to say it just sounds a little backwards.It’s all good.
  
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SocialistSlayer
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:00pm
Manager trying to address customer complaint? What a sorry excuse ! _ Denny’s I’m keeping an eye on you – one more incident like this and you will lose my business !

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- Popp40
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:08pm
  Maybe you should go on You Tube and watch all the fights that break out at Denny’s. That may help make up your mind…..
  
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Live2BeFree
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:59pm
If I was the police department any time Denny’s calls with a “situation” I would say, sorry get your manager to handle it. Im not letting my officers come in without weapons. Watch how fast things change.

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- Lee_in_PA
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:07pm
  I was just thinking that I hope when Denny’s gets robbed, dials 911 and needs an officer, that this officer would get the call. Guessing THAT would make the dif for Denny’s. At least around here the police are welcome at Denny’s. Not that I eat there, but I see squad cars there whenever I drive past Denny’s.
  
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RightUnite
Posted on January 3, 2013 at 12:59pm
Now they need to post a really big sign “No Guns Allowed”…… Let the bloodbath begin.

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:09pm
  D – E – N – N – Y – S, The new way to spell Luby’s.
  
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- KevINtampa
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:20pm
  @RIGHT
  
  Once I started concealed carrying I realized that 99.9% of all businesses do in fact post a no guns sign on their doors. Sometimes it’s hard to find, but at least in Florida it’s the gun carriers responsibility to locate any posted signs no matter how small or out of they way they are posted. For a long time I refused to enter any of those stores and restaurants, unfortunately though I got tired of pizza delivery and now just leave the gun at home. To those who say carry anyways… I will not let any private business make a criminal out of me and by carrying on their property you are in fact a criminal.
  
  Sad world indeed.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:49pm
  @kevintampa
  Hope you never need your concealed weapon in one of those businesses you let violate your 2nd amendment rights.
  
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- Ofra1
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 1:51pm
  RIGHT!! And yeah RJ on the Luby’s … forgot about that one! And I’m a local .. this Denny’s is not far at all from the borders of one of the most lawless cities in the country .. in the context of crime and lack of police authority … East St. Louis.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:07pm
  OFRA1, Remember it well, and this survivor too.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEJFAvA-ZUE
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 2:24pm
  Thanks for that link RJJ….
  
  I never heard of that before.
  
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- Pontiaku
  Posted on January 3, 2013 at 7:15pm
  From what I’ve seen of Denny’s you DO NOT want to set foot in that place without a gun.
  Go to youtube and search “denny’s restaurant fight/brawl”.
  I use the term Restaurant loosely.
  
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