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Why Was a 2.3% ‘Medical Excise Tax’ Showing Up on Receipts from Sporting Goods Giant Cabela’s?

Jan. 4, 2013 12:10pm Mike Opelka

January 1, 2013 brought a host of new taxes, fees, and charges to the American people. Some of them were anticipated. Others, like the Medical Device Excise Tax (MDET), were not — at least not in this way.

How so? Well, the MDET has started showing up on the receipts for purchases made at sporting goods giant Cabela’s. This receipt from one such store in Texas is making the rounds on the web. It shows an additional tax has been added to the purchase, after the local sales tax of nearly 10% was charged.

Why Was A Sporting Goods Store Charging 2.3% Medical Excise Tax

Image: Twitchy.com

A series of phone calls to both the corporate offices of Cabela’s as well as three Texas outlets where the taxes have been showing up yielded what appears to be a satisfactory explanation and resolution.

Customer service reps for Cabela’s stated the added tax was “a computer glitch that has been fixed.” In one case, a representative offered to take my receipt information over the phone and expedite a refund to my credit card. Cash purchases that were hit with the extra 2.3% tax must return to the store for a cash refund.

With that mystery solved, we couldn’t stop wondering about the tax. What is a Medical Excise Tax? Which devices will be affected by it?

Credit: AP

TheBlaze asked the people responsible for collecting the tax — the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). There is much information about this new tax on the IRS website. Let’s start with the obvious question, “What is it?”

Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

That’s the very first response from the IRS to the question about the tax. Based on that definition, it would seem that the mandated 2.3% tax should be charged to the manufacturer or importer and not the consumer. The IRS clearly states responsibility to pay the tax points to the maker and importer, but the word “generally” in their answer leaves wiggle room:

Generally, the manufacturer or importer of a taxable medical device is responsible for filing Form 720, Quarterly Federal Excise Tax Return, and paying the tax to the IRS.

Some tax experts say that adding the word “generally” may allow for the manufacturers and importers to pass that same 2.3% tax on to consumers through elevated prices at the retail level. At least one source at a major American manufacturer — who asked to remain anonymous because they’re not authorized to speak publicly on the matter — said the company will be forced to increase prices.

“If our profit margin is 4%, and we’re hit with an added 2.3% charge by this tax, more than half of our profit is instantly gone,” the company source said.

Looking deeper into the IRS clarification on this, we wondered what qualifies as a “medical device?” The IRS has guidance on that topic — sort of. Here’s the slightly confusing answer to the question, What is a taxable medical device?

In general, a taxable medical device is a device that is listed as a device with the Food and Drug Administration under section 510(j) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and 21 CFR part 807, unless the device falls within an exemption from the tax, such as the retail exemption.

Section 501 is a 23 page document filled with language that would confuse most folks, but then again, it allegedly applies only to commercial sales and importation of medical devices. The aforementioned “retail exemption” is a bit easier to grasp. Clarification on this issue is courtesy of the legal eagles at JDsupra.com:

There are two main categories of devices exempt from the tax. First, eyeglasses, contact lenses and hearing aids are specifically listed as being exempt. The second and broader category, commonly referred to as the “Retail Exception,” exempts a device which is “of a type which is generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use.”

At the end of the day, the Medical Device Excise Tax was supposed to generate an additional $29 billion to help pay for Obamacare. During the deliberations of the 2009 law, the bill’s authors envisioned the $29 billion coming from “big companies” who made or imported the devices. More than one of the medical device manufacturers say that their operating profit margins are so thin, that they have no choice but to pass the cost on to consumers.

It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers.

(H/T: Twitchy.com)

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Pittakos
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:22pm
“It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers.”

This is a concept that liberals just do not comprehend. Businesses do not pay taxes. They only collect them from their clients and then pass them on to the government. Increases in minimum wages are not paid by the employer. They are paid by the consumer, collected by the employer and passed on to the government. Any tax that is dumped onto a producer is just ultimately passed on to the general populace but this just doesn’t seem to compute with libs.

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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:32pm
  yeh we all a bunch of idiots and only you brilliant geniuses can figure out how a company will pass the tax on to the consumer. You guys are just a bunch of uppity vain opportunist whiners. Get a grip.
  
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- pigletrios
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:33pm
  Actually this is exactly what should happen with the description including on the receipt that the companies are collecting these taxes for the government. If that is in our face all the time on all of the eligible purchases AND people see what it is costing, perhaps THEN they will get what the cost of this program really means! If its hidden in a price or something else, it wont have the same impact!
  
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- jhrusky
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:35pm
  Agreed. It just amazes me that some idiots continue to believe we raise taxes on businesses and those business will just absorb the extra costs!.
  
  “At least one source at a major American manufacturer — who asked to remain anonymous because they’re not authorized to speak publicly on the matter — said the company will be forced to increase prices.”
  
  No ****! What in hell do people think will happen? The idiots who want everyone else to pay for their STUFF are getting exactly what they deserve.
  
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- phrogdriver
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:37pm
  I think they DO comprehend it. They just don’t care.
  
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- Dscriptboy
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:00pm
  No, Pittakos, you got it wrong.
  
  The Progressives and the liberals understand that businesses do not pay the taxes. It’s the American people who do not understand basic econiomics.
  
  The American people are stupid enough to believe in the class warfare created by the Progressives – “make the rich pay their fair share.” Tax the rich and corporate America.
  
  Too many Americans do not understand that taxes imposed by government on business is passed on to the consumer. That medical device tax will paid by consumers. Just like all the others taxes.
  
  The Progressives are deliberately destroying the American family, and Americans are cheering them for it.
  
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- NigelTufnel
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:14pm
  Yep. It’s the same as advertising dollars.
  
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- stablepar
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:39pm
  2014 can’t come fast enough
  
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- Excomunicatedmarine
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:45pm
  Actually it goes like this, the majority who vote for these progressive leaders don’t even think about added costs at retail because of new taxes…..but some do. Those who do don’t care anyway because it isn’t their money they spend. It is the taxpayers money passed onto the recipient in payment for their vote to keep the progressive (communist) leaders in power. Osmarto and his henchmen are aces at manipulating this condition…….and neutralizing said situation generally doesn’t happen until total financial collapse, caused by loose fiscal policies, brings down the whole society.
  
  It is a problem brought about by “leaders” who care more for their own profit and glory than they do for the future of their country.
  
  And by those leaders who have an agenda to destroy their country or society. Again, sometimes for their own profit. Think Soros, muslims, angry Blk men, etc.
  
  Be ready. Be ready real soon.
  
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- watashbuddyfriend
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:50pm
  @Dscriptboy
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:00pm
  
  “No, Pittakos, you got it wrong.
  
  The Progressives and the liberals understand that businesses do not pay the taxes. It’s the American people who do not understand basic econiomics.”
  
  It is GOOD to see another who, like myself, has been posting, for YEARS, that Corporations do not pay taxes; they just collect and add them to the price of the product or service! The BURDEN falls on the CONSUMER!
  
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- Wolf-Warrior
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:19pm
  The Oamacare taxes should be listed on ALL receipts so people will understand what this costing in real terms. Just like sales taxes, corporations COLLECT taxes, but they don’t get to keep the money. In fact, list all of the taxes the corporations have to pay thus the consumers have to pay. It will be a real wake up call for the country. We, like the Roman Empire, are being taxed out of existance.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:36pm
  BARTER. Trade. This is theft. Paying for something you do not receive.
  How’s this hopee, changee, redistribution of your wealth for the lazy crap working out for ya?
  It is unconstitutional. It is theft.
  
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- GoodStuff
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:55pm
  @StevieTheUnrealist
  
  “You guys are just a bunch of uppity vain opportunist whiners. Get a grip.”
  
  You’re the only one that needs to get a grip. You sound unhinged. Seek help.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:59pm
  @excom. Good post. Progressive commies want us to feel guilty for doing our time. Retiring then working three jobs owning a business. Never using our VA benefits because someone of us were injured more, & we felt more deserving than ourselves. You fought this to come home and submit to it.
  
  I feel bad. Never submit
  
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- LasVegasRon
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:07pm
  @stevetherealist HAHA, you got obama’d!
  
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- cantstandlibs
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:14pm
  steve-the-idiot needs to go ask his mommy if getting help is covered under her insurance plan before his upcoming 26th birthday.
  
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- JRook
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:37pm
  And the concept that you don’t seem to get is so does their profits, bonuses, executive perks, private planes, etc. etc. the notion that “medical device manufacturers say that their operating profit margins are so thin” is as much of a crock as when pharmaceutical companies claim they are not making adequate margin. The fundamental problem with our health care system is that you have non-profit hospitals surrounded by for profit companies… and for profit physician groups. If the profit margins were so low in the US, then why is our per capita spending twice as high as the second highest per capita spending on health care. And spare me with the we have the best health care system in the world….. as it is ranked 37th. And many of the accepted measures of health and health outcomes are lower than this. So for the capitalists here… the ROI on our health care spending is “so thin” as to be unacceptable. We either need to dramatically improve our health status and health outcomes or significantly cut our per capita spending on healthcare.
- MC Wombat
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:02pm
  What you conservative morons do not understand is that EVERY corporation & business in the world is sitting on giant buckets of cash money that they have stolen from the poor people of the world! These evil corporations & businesses are the reason 47% of Americans are on some form of entitlement program. If these rich bast*rds weren’t hanging on to much more than their fair share, we’d have more than enough money to pay for all the benefits the poor folks have earned – like Section 8 housing, foodstamps, ADC, WIC, 199 weeks of unemployment, disability, free health care, free Obamaphone…& plenty more! Greedy bast*rds sitting on all their cash should be ashamed. they didn’t earn that money & they can afford to give another 2½ % to help them that’s living without!
  
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- rp454
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:27pm
  Wombat you are delusional. You sound like Obama when he let’s his third world thinking come through. “The US did not become prosperous through hard work and determination, they merely stole the riches of poorer nations.” If you actually believe that, you have been duped. Get off your a$$ and work harder.
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:56pm
  Success must be punished! Right, Wombat?
  
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- THE_SUPPLANTER
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:15pm
  JRook… I am curious where those healthcare rankings come from. Michael Moore? The UN (because of course, they are a neutral third party)? Some other nation? Academia (of course dominated by liberals)? Is it not possible that American healthcare is being evaluated on metrics that are skewed in favor of those countries that provide so-called “free healthcare”? Just something to think about from a “moron” who has been involved in academic writing and metric selection.
  
  Wombat… stealing is a concept where someone took what did not rightfully belong to them. You blaming corporations for “stealing” money from the poor suggests that people did not get: a salary that they benefited from, goods that they consumed, services that they received, etc. Are you suggesting that this is what happened? If so, when? How were they stolen from? By paying them lawful wages? Did the corporations stop individuals from going to school and improving their lot in life? Instead of making these corporations faceless, name them! Tell me specifically who they are, what they are doing that is against the law that makes these corporations worth hating. Is it Google? Is it Apple? Let’s be specific, provide facts, and see if you can identify those companies. If you can, you may be the next best witness in a governmental foreign corrupt practices act case against those “greedy bastards”!
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:20pm
  Man some folks are so niev, did they really think these companys were going to absorb these expenses. When Obama told Jo the Plumber to spread the wealth he was talking about the little people. The companys are the ones that footed amost $ 1 billion for the re-election. This is only fair for those companys that didn’t get a Obama Care waiver – it just wouldn’t be fair for some to get a waiver and others not.
  
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- THE_SUPPLANTER
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:28pm
  Oh, and JROOK… as a thought, maybe you should purchase a share of these “evil corporations” and battle it out with the other shareholders to make sure that the corporation only ever breaks even. Provide no incentives to work hard, improve products, provide transportation for your employees, re-invest in research and development, etc. Because, after all, it is morally wrong to try to make a profit, isn’t it? It’s not moral for you to receive a bonus for your hard work. It’s not even moral for you to receive a higher salary. Somehow it is also a foregone conclusion that if your company is making money off the product it produces, then you are robbing the poor. Is that right? Out of curiosity, have you ever run a corporation? Do you understand the demands of time, pressure, etc? Did you make a profit? Did you pay yourself out of those profits? You see on a micro-scale isn’t it despicable that a person baking bread at a cost of $.50/ loaf would be selling it for $1.00/loaf? Isn’t that $.50 profit immoral? I’m surprised all those local bread shop greedy bastards are not the object of your ire, as they are probably stealing your money every week!
  
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- GETLIFE
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:39pm
  I totally agree PIGLETRIOS. Everything should be spelled out on the receipt. Actually, the consumer should demand to know what taxes are being collected when they buy something.
  
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- Right wing nut job
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:45pm
  Wombat, you truly are dumber than a bag of hammers. you said “EVERY corporation & business in the world is sitting on giant buckets of cash money”
  
  I was self employed with my own logging business. I was making some money but had to maintain a part time job on the side to make ends meet. Where were my giant buckets of cash? Was my business that different than many others? Even large businesses operate on thin margins. The incoming money can be great but in my case fuel, maintenance, equipment, and a number of other things make that great income vanish faster that a lib confronted with facts and reason.
  
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- Female
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:45pm
  Because INSURANCE pays for all these “medical devices” people don’t care about the tax and with so many on govt. insurance and talking on O-phones…they really aren’t even paying even co-pays. No it is the middle-class, who has seen drastic changes in insurance benefits and costs…high deductibles, high premiums.
  
  I wish every company could charge seperately the amount they pay to govt. for every purchase: import, employee taxes, healthcosts, tax on profit, etc….it is in the price of every item. Which is why over-the-counter meds at hospitals cost sooooo much!
  
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- Right wing nut job
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:54pm
  @ Wombat.. Unless of course your sarcasm was lost on me, in which case I retract my “bag of hammers” comment.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:59pm
  wow MC DINGBAT….your keepers really did a number on you champ. You need an intervention.
  
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- integrican
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 7:29pm
  @ womb bat!!!
  Please show us one example of those companies of which you speak “forced” anyone to buy their goods or services. Only the US government does that, The ACA comes to mind.
  Also, do you know who makes the most money when a gallon of gas is purchased? The US Government and they didn’t even lift a finger or risk a dime. Maybe it’s time to perform some retroactive abortions on those who refuse to contribute to society. You know, of course, that if the bottom 47% of the population actually paid some taxes, we could also afford all of those things you desire.
  
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- Unix
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:42pm
  stevethefantasy – get real bubba, the cost of any tax or increase in costs are passed to the consumer for the most part via higher prices. In any event, you could not understand this FACT, because your brain is sand. I do feel some pity for you and your type, but no a whole lot of it. Your ignorance is self-imposed, so wallow in the mire when you can’t afford to eat one day real soon.
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:43pm
  It’s the same principle of business and unions: the workers think they’re getting a raise, then the company has to raise its product cost to cover the union raise, which is paid for by everyone who buys the product. Unions don’t care any more than government does: they’re getting theirs and screw everyone else, including the union worker.
  
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- SavvyCowboy
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:41pm
  the obummer regime wanted to “punish” BIG EVIL business but being the dolts and morons they are, they “did not realize” that any CEO or company worth their salt will NOT pay that marxist tax but will instead pass it on to the end consumer. HELLOOOOO!!!! Nothing personal – just business.
  
  Thanks barack – MORON!!!
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:51pm
  @JRook
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:37pm
  And the concept that you don’t seem to get is so does their profits, bonuses, executive perks, private planes, etc. etc. the notion that “medical device manufacturers say that their operating profit margins are so thin” is as much of a crock as when pharmaceutical companies claim they are not making adequate margin. The fundamental problem with our health care system is that you have non-profit hospitals surrounded by for profit companies… and for profit physician groups. If the profit margins were so low in the US, then why is our per capita spending twice as high as the second highest per capita spending on health care. And spare me with the we have the best health care system in the world….. as it is ranked 37th. And many of the accepted measures of health and health outcomes are lower than this. So for the capitalists here… the ROI on our health care spending is “so thin” as to be unacceptable. We either need to dramatically improve our health status and health outcomes or significantly cut our per capita spending on healthcare.
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  So doctors that spend money for their education should not make a profit. You say spare me the details about our health care system. Would you care to weigh the criteria that various countries uses in obtaining their individual health status?
  
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- love the kids
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 10:52pm
  MC Wombat, are you stupid or what. Let’s look at this from a Democratic point of view, sort of.
  1.The poor are really doing nothing more than hiding all their money with the rich to avoid paying taxes and collect more money back in entitlement programs.
  2. They are forced to give them their money while buying big screen TV’s.
  3. Why would someone rob the poor, wouldn’t it be more effective to steal from a rich person?
  4. How did they these programs???
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:04pm
  Pittakos says, “It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers.” This is a concept that liberals just do not comprehend.
  
  Actually Pittakos, you’re the one that doesn’t understand capitalism. If your view were correct, then when companies got a tax break, like the Bush tax cuts, they’d then lower what they charged for goods and services. Sorry to bust your bubble, but they didn’t and they don’t. Your idea is that if an owner gets a tax break, he turns around and lowers what he charges, and maybe gives his employees a raise. And maybe gives them some health insurance.
  
  Obviously that doesn’t happen. You misunderstand capitalism despite your cheer leading for business owners. Businesses charge whatever the market will bear. They don’t “pass on” taxes to the clients, any more than the reduce the price of their products when they get a tax break or have a good year.
  
  Businesses charge whatever people will pay regardless of any other factor. That’s capitalism. And businesses who employ low skill employees will pay them as little as possible or even so little that they simply assume they’ll move on quickly like Denny’s and McDonald’s. There are a lot of poor people out there who will step in and work for minimum wage.
  
  The driver is not taxes or other expenses that may fluctuate. The driver is profits, and they’ll charge you whatever you are willing to pay.
  
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- dst1964
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:06pm
  Of course you’re right but Stevetherealist is the idiot that he claims to be too! So I guess that Stevo is just fine with this ridiculous monstrosity of a bill and even though he says that of course Libs understand that they will be charged the taxes in these instances but he’s obviously fine with that. Well pal, I’m not and never will be. The Dems are ruining this country and are apparently proud of it! You surely think that the fact that many of these companies aren’t ABLE to take the hit on these ridiculous extra money grabs by Obama and his progressive allies because as far as you are concerned the companies don’t DESERVE to make a profit anyways! Screw you guys and your selfish power hungry assault on not only the free market but also our freedoms! You guys are gonna be whIning yourself when your friends who work in restaurants and other lower paying establishments have their hours cut or lose their insurance altogether! I don’t want to hear it! You don’t have a clue as to how many people are going to be affected by this terrible legislation because it’s number one, NOT FREE, and number two more people will struggle to pay for the expensive government run “exchanges” that everyone will be forced into… Unless of course once it finally is so obvious that it’s not working that they end up gutting the regulations that they are still in the process if formulating s we speak. Ya Stevo, I can go on and on but your so smart you already know all of this anyw
  
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- eadamico70
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:45pm
  Very well put. What many people don’t understand either is that the physicians are being hit in the pocket as well. Especially those that have their own practice. Physicians that own their own equipment and buy their own supplies can submit for reimbursement to the insurance company, the problem is now, CMS has bundled a lot of these supplies and procedures into one lump sum and physicians can not bill separately for many of these supplies or medical equipment. They can’t bill the patient either if the patient has Medicare or Medicaid, they basically have to eat it. I’m not saying all supplies or equipment,. depends on the persons insurance. I work in the medical field as a coding specialist, I deal w/this all day.
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:46pm
  @SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 11:04pm
  Pittakos says, “It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers.” This is a concept that liberals just do not comprehend.
  I didn’t have enough room to respond to everything “SendTheMeteors said so had to forgo his actual comments.
  
  Wow, You are advocating that employers are responsible for the well being of their workers. It is not enough that they give them a job and give them the responsibility of setting their priorities on their well being.
  
  No, you advocate that a company is responsible for paying them hourly wages, providing them with everything they need. You also state that a corporation is not entitled to a profit for their goods or services.
  
  Well, I would love to work with a company that you built. To know that you feel that giving everything to the workers is preferential to making a profit.
  
  Not to mention that most viable companies return those profits into building the companies strengths to ascertain their survival in the future and hiring additional personnel.
  
  I assume that you prefer living on day to day mobility rather than to assure a future for tomorrow. Can I ask what your professor taught you when you were a student at their institution.
  
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- sacwoodpusher
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 1:20am
  I own a business, and here is how it works:
  
  I know what my margins must be to make a decent living. I take what I pay, add my margins, and do my best to arrange cost effective shipping…..but I pass all taxes through to the customer, sales, etc…..and if the government increases a tax, it gets passed on.
  
  When it gets too difficult to make money in California, then I’ll head to Texas. When it gets too dificult to make a living in the US, I’ll let Obama take care of me. I have never collected unemployment insurance or welfare…… Maybe it is my turn to live off the treadmill for a éhile!
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 1:35am
  Hey JustMeHere dash 01. Did you read my post? Why don’t you read it again. Please do. I didn’t say that an employer “was responsible for the well being” of employees or “providing them with everything they need.” I also didn’t “state that a corporation is not entitled to a profit for their goods or services.” I said nothing of the sort.
  
  The problem with a having a discussion with you and people like you is that you seem to have no comprehension of the written word. Now, have you reread my post? If not, do so now. And explain your claim that I said companies are responsible for “providing employees with everything they need.” Have you read my post again yet? So now I’m sure you can point to where I said “a corporation is not entitled to profit.” Have you found that part in my post yet? Okay, go back and read it again. Then tell me where I said that.
  
  JustMeHere, your grammar is good as is your spelling. Your sentences are comprehensible, and tuned to your fans. But what you lack is any comprehension at all of what I said, as you’ve noticed when you tried to reference my comments to justify yours.
  
  Your post is a good example of why political discussion is impossible with people like you. You didn’t “twist my words.” You invented things you claim I said out of thin air (prove me wrong JustMe with references to my comments). Sorry to call you out publicly, but I think people have a right to know that you’re a fraud.
  
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- DADA
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 2:21am
  @ Send the Meteors. I think you are partly right. Capitalism is driven by profit. There is nothing wrong with that. Prices are set depending upon what the market will bear. However, prices are also a result of the costs of taxes. Companies cannot simply sell for what price the public would be willing to pay, they have to sell for a profit if they are to stay in business. That is unless they are subsidized by the government allowing them to lose money and stay in business. Taxes, license fees, and other government costs have to be included in the overhead and do affect the price of the product on the market.
  
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- EM2T93
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 2:42am
  @Meteors…
  Perhaps you’re “the problem”.
  
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- rpa49
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 5:36am
  I heard pioneer cardiologist Albert Starr, MD of Oregon Health & Science University speak this last week about this medical device tax. He performed the first pediatric open heart surgery in 1958 on a 7 y/o girl and then implanted the world’s first artificial mitral valve on a 58 y/o man in 1960. Dr. Starr is still an active and vocal member of the OHSU team to this day.
  My point here is to say that I believe he is uniquely qualified to comment on the pros and cons of the MDET. As, he put it, there are no positive outcomes of the MDET. MDET will increase the cost of devices manufactured and sold in the USA. Our industry will be at a financial disadvantage to foriegn producers. The MDET will stiffle innovation. Why spend the capital on R&D to prodce products that people can’t pay for or that government wonks won’t pay for when they can get it cheaper for a foriegn competitor? When companie’s see that they must move their operations overseas to make a profit, where do you suppose all those high-paying medical research or enginnering jobs will go and to whom?
  As Dr.Star stated, it’s all about moving columns of money to justify obamacare. You can claim all day long about the revenue you plan on getting to pay for obamacare, but if you chase the industry away to a foriegn land there won’t be any revenue from that line. So the government will have to increase costs (revenue=taxes) to compensate.
  The whole of obamacare was poorly written and targeted areas of healthcare tha
  
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- retiredfire
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:10am
  Let’s not forget the cost to these businesses of computing and remitting these taxes, another hidden cost to “business taxes”.
  I actually think there are those out there who think a business will be willing to forgo some of their evil profit to pay newly imposed taxes – the low-information voters that stuck us with the government they deserve but don’t pay for themselves.
  
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- retiredfire
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:16am
  NIGELTUFNEL:
  You got that right!
  With the Super Bowl approaching and the ridiculous cost of advertizing in this event, which is reported repeatedly, I wonder how many think about the fact that this cost is passed on to the treasury through the deduction (loophole?) from the taxable income of the company that spends this vast sum of money, used to gain more business and generously enrich the very media that is such a threat to our free society.
  
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- SLAPTHELEFT
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:49am
  Yup is doesn’t bother Steve.
  
  They’ll just up the amount of his ebt card and he’ll never notice the price increase.
  
  What a loafer.
  
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- carbonyes
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:04am
  Here’s the kicker:
  
  The liberal left is not ignorant. They know exactly what they are doing. Part of their Agenda is destroy the middle class and small business, which is part and parcel of the middle class. Obamacare and its’ hidden taxes were designed for purposes of control, e.g., retaining and increasing power, generating more funds for the government to finance their liberal programs and bleed the American people in the process.
  
  Do not in any way take for granted the liberal, progressive, socialist, communist ideology that permeates our government leaders, and yes, it has infiltrated the Republican Party as well.
  
  Deflecting our attention from the real problem and trying to get the American people to focus on a misnomer, called the “fiscal cliff” is a joke. Obama and his cronies from the left along with a sympathetic, spineless group on the right, who at best, or worst, can tell Harry Reid to go “f” himself, have raped this country and its’ people and have a huge price to pay. It will take a massive revolt, not only at the ballot box, but at the very selection process of who is selected to run for office.
  
  Are there any true statesmen left? Over 20 billion out of the 60 billion in aid for Sandy victims going to the likes of GE, one of Obama’s many bed pals. When and where does it stop?
  
  Time to throw off the yoke. We have gotten to the point that the looters and takers, the useful, mind numbed idiots that have been birthed by the left are a majority.
  
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- Americanius
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:23am
  Exactly. Corporations or businesses for that matter are tax collectors for the federal government and the politicians know it. That’s why they stage phony PR campaigns about the evil corporations all the while knowing they are really going to soak the consumers in a back door tax.
  
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- bintalshamsa
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:23am
  @SendTheMeteors You were absolutely correct when you wrote, “Businesses charge whatever people will pay regardless of any other factor”. These aren’t just benevolent organizations, set up to provide people with needed goods. They are in it to make money and that is most affected by what people are willing to pay.
  
  The American people elected President Obama and expressed a willingness to deal with the kind of government that offers. If a policy did result in them paying more for certain goods, then that’s okay, because they feel that what we have is better than the realistic alternatives. I’m certainly okay with paying more for goods if it means that this country will improve for folks like me.
  
  If corporations simply added the cost of their (increased) taxes onto the customers and that’s the main factor that controls price increases, then there’s no reason for them to be upset, because it won’t change their bottom line. Of course, we know that there ARE limitations to what customers will pay and if they raise prices beyond that point, then they start to lose customers.
  
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- JeffersonPaine
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:54am
  @ Pigletrios. That is so correct! I have a story similar to this one. I was in San Francisco with my friends awhile back before Obamacare was passed. We were on Pier 39 eating at a restaurant. When I got my bill, I saw I was being charged for a “health tax.” I thought “are they already starting to charge for the health bill with the assumption that it is going to pass?” No, Apparently the city passed its own health tax to help pay for the well being of all the homeless in the city. What a life they live there. Free Health care paid by yours truly! It was a wakeup call to see that on the bill. It sounded like the restaurant people don’t like it at all either. Now they have to add the federal healthcare tax too. I think it should be made blatantly obvious to the public that healthcare is not going to be free. Please, keep putting these little surprises on our bills and receipts! We need a wakeup call!
  
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- azmv55
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 12:03pm
  Realist? You are a TOOL!
  
  You and everyone who thinks as you. The educational indoctrination center you were sent to have you all believing in the Marxist ideal of cradle to grave care by a compassionate government. You are not a free man, you are a slave to a master that metes out to you only what they feel you deserve, and that you gladly accept. All in the name of “fairness”?
  
  I really pity you, and all such as you whom never learned how to be “self-sufficient”, or know the meaning of “responsibility” for yourself and your family. Most importantly you have no moral compass because you have no faith in God. You and your type have been deceived into believing that man created God, and that makes you answerable to only man.
  
  I am a FREE MAN, not an “uppity vain opportunist whiners that needs a grip”! I am getting older now and I am crippled, but I proudly fought for this country before and I still have plenty of fight left in me. A great evil called “Socialism” has taken control of our land, and I dare say there are more than enough like-minded free men and woman out there who will not sit idly by and lose our country to fools and slaves.
  
  I strongly suggest you seek Gods forgiveness, accept the error of your hubris’s and become a Free Man. You need to choose a side. The times they are changing. For the better I pray.
  
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- scotte2121
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 1:02pm
  I think all taxes should be itemized on sales receipts, as well as pay stubs, vehicle license fees, and every other tax we pay. You pay check should list about 50 different lines of where and how much of you money is going to welfare, defense, Obama’s vacations, roads, congress salary, etc…. then everyone gets to look at it!
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 1:26pm
  I felt compelled to answer some of you knotheads partly to show how bad your intuition is and partly because I just don’t like you or the way you think. I have been gamefully employed since age 16, I’m now 49 with two of my own businesses after a successful hotel career. Statistically I pay more in taxes than than 98% of you make. So don’t pity me pity yourself. I have not turned over a employee in more than 7 years which is testament to the wages I pay and the way I manage. I’m not rich by any stretch of the imagination but can easily survive well with any of the proposed changes and I don’t make near the $400,000. mark. I’m a God fearing christain and ask for his forgivness when needed. I have also had my own medical insurance since age 16 and never recieved a single thing from the government dole. However, I get out of my bunker every once in a while and see the real need for helping others and do. Last year i donated over 27% of my personal earnings to charities. This is not to brag but to imform the 25 posters that are regularly on this site that they can save their righteous indignation for some one it would actually apply to. I suggest the same advice you do. Go get a better paying job if your so scared of a few minor tax increases needed to right the ship and actually start paying down our debt. If you clowns want to see a country in ruins you just have to go back to Dec. 2008. BTW thanks for all your positive help duing our recovery, you’ve been very helpful
  
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- aquarias2
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 2:03pm
  wow…the mind of liberal/useful idiot is indeed a wasted mind….and to think, this guy obama got re-elected by these morons…next, the useful idiots will be shocked to find out their taxes were also raised…the social security tax reduction was not included in the “fiscal cliff” bill…and obama didn’t want it included…the reaction of these useful idiots will be total surprise when they find their next paycheck reduced by 2% and obama also threw them under the bus…$1000/yr for a $50,000 salary…and i can guarantee you the morons dutilfully will blame bush…you see, the worse thing abut being a useful idiot is your inabiltiy to “handle the truth”….
  
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- aquarias2
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 2:44pm
  @stevetherealist a.k.a stevethenarcissitlimousibe lib….i always find it interesting when one feels the need to brag about how much they have and how sucessful they have been in life, and at the same time whine about how little they earn…and how generous they are…you are a shining example of exactly what i have stated in other posts here today…when ever i cross paths with someone who thinks like you i always suspect you suffer low self esteem…what else can i conclude from someone who seems to feel the need to tell us all how wonderful you are in comparison to the rest of us selfish, heartless curs….you represent the oh so standard MO of the sterotypical narcissistic limousine lib…smug, pompous, condescending to those with whom you communicate and worst of all you have this arrognat sense of “moral superiority”, and phony self righteous indignation…you represent the most dangerous of the “useful idiots”….i suggest when you preparte your 2012 tax return, you add about $20,000 to the total tax you rightfully owe the government to prove your point to the rest of us…if you do that, and you prove it to us, then sir i will apologize…and charity doesn’t count by the way…it didn’t seem to matter for mitt romney good by folks like you and he contributed 30% of this income to charity…i am assuming out of the goodness of your big liberal heart you like to brag about, you did not deduct the 27% you claim you contributed to charity last year from your taxes.
  
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- OneTermPresident
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 3:02pm
  Simply put…. Obama is the biggest tax increaser on ALL classes in HISTORY. You get what you voted for! Him and his Pals from the New Socialist Party of America still believe they can spend their way out the debt they’ve created… with your money. His goal… break America’s back!
  
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- mtman2
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 3:27pm
  Why do WE call a % U.S. citi-zen-ry{not Zen like} sheeple? You have to know + care to have understanding. Much of our society is so myopicly self centered w/NO interest in relevant topics of importants, we’re in regression. W/out eyes to see + ears to hear, false prophets/teachers have tickled their ears + clouded their vision. Leading them like the children in the Pied Piper, now comes the extortion demand to the “parents” for not paying their debt. Only now the kids will be left to pay for the bill.
  
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- patriotpals
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:09pm
  “” It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers. “”
  (Why does everyone act surprised at this?????)
  
  I, too, believe that progressives (read liberals, democrats, etc) understand the concept of passing along the cost of doing business to the consumer…they simply don’t care. If it is part of the Agenda of their Dear Leaders, then they will swing with it no matter what. Right, wrong or otherwise, to criticize their Masters is not within their intellectual reach. It’s collective thought that matters. That’s is why the Repub’s lost the (s)”election”. Progressives have mastered the art of “group think”. The Collective Brain…like the Wizard of OZ, and just as ugly.
  
  There are “We The People” out here who actually practice independent thinking and that scares the bejeezus outta ‘em. It’s much easier to fight against another collective, than to fight millions of individuals who practice independent behavior and thought.
  
  Sucks to be them……just more sheeple to herd around…..
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:20pm
  Aquarias2 / Sorry I’m not just going to sit there while people like you make their blanked assumptions of who I’am and what I know. My point was to show just how wrong you are throwing around your rhetoric. My other point was to show even if you make less than 400k you can still live very comfortably and pay your people well. I see you missed that as well in your blind rage. But, now that you waded in with your evaluation perhaps you should try some self reflection. I always find it interesting when people like you are offended by comments like mine then feel compelled to take issue. Sounds like you may have the low self esteem you speak of. I don’t need to prove jack squat to you or anyone else that occupies this site. In fact I wouldn’t give you 2 cents for your apology cause it means nothing to me. I also don’t recall whining about how much I make.Then again details seem to be lost on many here at the blaze. I’m actually very happy and blessed. Glad you find me dangerous because whatever side people like you are on you’ll find me on the other. You talk about how we will all be surprised at the payroll tax increase. The bush tax cuts were suppose to expire 2 years ago so I was prepared then. The last two years were just a bonus. You may be the first person in my life to call me a narcissist. A indication of how far of the mark you are. Even my republican tea party family members are having a good laugh at that one. Finally, useful idiot is getting overplayed. Give
  
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- AuntieFran413
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:55pm
  C’mon now…most of them failed basic math — you know, addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. And now you want them to understand Economics 101? Gimme a break! :)
  
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- scarydave
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:34am
  EXCOMUNICATEDMARINE
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:45pm
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  Very good post!
  I think 2013 will be the year that people get smart and organize for any number of bad outcomes due to the policies of Obama’s Marxist administration and our idiot Reps in Congress. My suggestions… Join or start a local Militia. Do NOT allow our government to take away ANY of our 2nd Amendment rights, by any means necessary. Buy lot’s of ammo or better yet learn to make your own and buy a lot of the supplies you will need to do it with. Learn to Barter more. And finally… make this the year that you swear to leave the USA better for your offspring than what we were given by our parents. It is after-all an unwritten American rule and always has been, so it has become our patriotic duty!
  However it will take a lot of people doing some extraordinary things in 2013 so we can start to take back the Country we all dearly love.
  Also… We need a dynamic Leader to emerge before we can become a real movement (it’s just the way it is so don’t ask me why. It just is). Please know that some of us are NOT waiting for a Leader to magically appear. Instead we are presently actively looking for that leader. Pray for us.
  
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- Protoham
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:11pm
  One way or another All of it will be coming from the pockets of customers.
  
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- Georgiaprune
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:33pm
  This may have been a slip up and maybe not. This just might be something that we might be looking at in the near future. It only seems right that we have a Medical Excise Tax on guns and ammo don’t you all think? No, before you all start calling me names, I don’t think so. However, I’m sure the Odamit Administration has thought of it by now.
  
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toledofan
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:21pm
No surprise here, we heard about his last year. So, this has to be true, God is great, beer is good and definately people are crazy to think, for one second, that we wouldn’t get the bill. This is only the tip of the iceberg and by the time Obama is done over 50% of our pay check will be going to the government. Just wait until the fees go up on everything. I think by the time Obama’s four years are over, we will be in a redux of the Carter Years.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:25pm
  “if you think healthcare is expensive now .. wait until it is free” we told them! I hope Obama supporters enjoy their taxes and fees … idiots. REPEAL ObamaTAX .
  
  Remember Benghazi
  
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- widowofanAirForcevet
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:28pm
  Not the Carter years. More like the Weimar Rebublic.
  
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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:20pm
  Yeah and that “Fair Share” argument was never Obama’s it came from Woodrow Wilson and his arguments for a Federal Income Tax on the Rich, its now called FICA tax paid by the 99% instead. That is how stupid this electorate has become.
  
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- Wisdom7
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:52pm
  Companies always pass the cost on to the consumer. Many companies are also cutting employee hours to part-time or less than 30 hours so they don’t have to provide health insurance. So not only will the poor have to pay more but also be earning less. How exactly did this hurt the rich again? No this will only hurt the poor.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:04pm
  I think they should show all these stupid government taxes on all receipts everywhere. All the liberals & “Obama Phone” junkies think all the money for the rampant spending comes out of Obama’s magic bag of tricks. Let all Americans see that we ALL are having to pay these taxes when we buy stuff. Why hide the truth?
  
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OUTLAW_WEALTH
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:15pm
We know what the tax is. It’s a cost increase to providing medical devices. At a time when Congress claims to be fixing things, they are braking them. Pun intended.

This law is a joke.

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- happ77
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:22pm
  We can thank no balls John Roberts .
  
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- Lily82
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:34pm
  Why is cabella’s apologizing?? They got it right. No apology necessary for accurately itemizing. Put it back on!
  
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ThoreauHD
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:11pm
This is strange, because medical device businesses are the one’s getting slapped with a gross income tax, unlike anyone else. So the government is basically robbing everyone buying and selling medical devices. I don’t understand why, unless it’s to crush the medical device industry.

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- objectivetruth
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:37pm
  The medical device industry already has a scab trying to put it out of business.Believe it or not its the same hospitals they serve.A device that costs 1600 dollars to the hospital is up charged to 16,647.36 to the insurance company[private or public] individual.Thats something like 10,000 percent mark up.When the hospital was contacted with the information they still stood by their highway robbery charges.Their claim, a committee sets prices.Their was nothing they could do.
  If you are wondering the numbers are exact.They weren’t happy to find out the patient contacted the manufacturer of the device to obtain the base cost.They just assumed they could sharge anything they want and get away with it.
  Actually there is a lot more to it than this.This upcode is being used to hide something else.Otherwise I think they would have adjusted quite quickly when the manufacturer was contacted.
  This however is very telling of why the industry of medical devices is facing hardship.It isn’t enough to be taxed to death by uncle sam.You also have to worry about the cut throat aspect of the hospitals you serve.
  
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- Bumpintheroad
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:17pm
  The tax was implemented to help pay for Obama care. That’s all, nothing mysterious, the govrnment needed more money to pay for all the new enrollies to medicaid.
  
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- DisposableWorker
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 12:24am
  As a former employee in a Medical Device company I can absolutely say you are correct. Agriculture and raw materials manufacturing are next. Is anybody here in the prepared food business? Wait until you see what is going to happen to pre-packaged food.
  
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red_white_blue2
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:11pm
Well, Surprise, Surprise, Surprise–is that YOU Barry hiding behind your wife? Are you the one responsible for raising taxes? And you cut $1 for every $41 I give you? You naughty little boy you!

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- Bangstick
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:22pm
  Taxes are an expense of doing business and get included the price of things.
  Guess what happens when business expenses go up. Do you think businesses
  are just going to eat it?
  Those expenses is going to appear in the price of everything we buy and sell one way or the other.
  
  And when things get too expensive that no one will pay for it = out of business = out of a job.
  
  Welcome to the new normal.
  
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- Pittakos
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:23pm
  Of course he is hiding behind his wife. I mean, there is a lot of hiding space behind that behind.
  
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iamnotu
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:07pm
WOW, this was an article that really was a true waste of any intelligent persons time.
The writer, obviously a leftist, who knows nothing about economics doesn’t even have a clue. First of all, just because the law says that the manufacturer is responsible for paying the IRS, that doesn’t mean it will come out of the companies bottom line. Anyone and everyone, except todays liberal capitolist haters, knows that the consumer pays any increase in costs to the manufacturer.

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- HumbleMan
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:16pm
  Absolutely right. There is no tax that isn’t in the end passed on to the consumer.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:16pm
  Exactly so in the end all votes that were brought by government entitlement bribes comes out of everyones pockets and twice out of those that pays taxes .
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 9:54pm
  @iamnotu
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:07pm
  WOW, this was an article that really was a true waste of any intelligent persons time.
  The writer, obviously a leftist, who knows nothing about economics doesn’t even have a clue. First of all, just because the law says that the manufacturer is responsible for paying the IRS, that doesn’t mean it will come out of the companies bottom line. Anyone and everyone, except todays liberal capitolist haters, knows that the consumer pays any increase in costs to the manufacturer.
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  You may think the article is a waste of time but I personally think it would be a great idea if every time someone buys something that there would be a break down of the taxes included in the purchase. I think the Government is ashamed of people knowing where they are being taxed.
  
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blackfeather
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:01pm
“we will get exactly what they voted for”.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:26pm
  Amen!
  
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banjarmon
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:00pm
15,000 NEW TAX ENFORCERS under “O’s F U CARE…Need I say MORE!!!!

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- desertspeaks
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:33pm
  F cabela’s, they caved instantly on the non existent, nonsensical gun ban, even though the second amendment clearly and unequivocally states SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!
  
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- Excomunicatedmarine
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:58pm
  Im not sure what you are trying to say here…..but I do know they have sold out on almost all ammo and firearms they had access to and have ordered a great deal more. I’d be real surprised if they quit selling any weapons unless the law is totally changed, and I think they will certainly fight any change.
  
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- CatB
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:07pm
  I belive that was Dick’s.
  
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- rp454
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:30pm
  Or Cheaper Than Dirt.
  
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- decendentof56
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 6:38pm
  Yes CATB……It was Dick’s who would not honor back-ordered guns. Some people bought two semi-auto rifles and maybe one was in stock. The BO’d gun was not going to be sold due to, I assume, Dick’s wanting not to be seen as supporting the type of weapon used in the SH shooting.
  
  Use a local gun shop. The service provided is superior to the big box stores. Actually, I generally try to support the small, local stores in whatever I’m in the market for.
  
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- retiredfire
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:39am
  Re: the thread on gun dealers (Dick’s I think) not honoring back-ordered guns.
  Wasn’t that because demand went up, and consequently prices, and the back-orders would have been sold at a lower price than if they were purchased at the current rate?
  The only reason I can think of for not selling guns purchased BEFORE such an event, while still selling them after.
  Didn’t really follow since I have all the guns I need.
  
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rangerskippy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:55pm
if you voted for Obama, then you voted for this tax. Hope you like it

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- 70S_KIDS_FIGHTING_SOCIALISM
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:35pm
  If you voted for Obama your also a COMMUNIST!!!!!!!
  They agree with every single point of the Communist manifesto which is the implementation of COMMUNISM!!!
  TEA PARTY UNTOUCHABLES!!! Americas most powerful freedom fighters!!!!!!!!!
  
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- Libertyluvnmomma
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:32pm
  70s the only thing the Tea Partiers are fighting is their girth.
  
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- asybot12
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 8:42pm
  @liberty lovin”momma”, the way you describe yourself makes me wonder about your girth.
  
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Tom Dooley
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:46pm
Why say bye to Cabelas they did not create this tax,the Democratic Socialists did. You voted this nitwit in now you have to pay!

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CatherineAnn
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:46pm
Go figure? The consumer will pay for all the tax increases. If you work you are screwed. If you take you have nothing to worry about. Simple as that.

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- vpeva1
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:30pm
  Well said
  
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- objectivetruth
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:03pm
  What about those who don’t work and aren’t on the dole and aren’t criminals?Got a name for um yet?
  
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- OhioRifleman
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:20pm
  @ Objective Truth
  
  Welfare recipients.
  
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- brother_ed
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:03pm
  @OBJECTIVETRUTH
  
  I believe you call them the 1%.
  
  To you it’s a dirty thing.
  
  To the rest of us, that’s what we’re shooting for.
  
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LB
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:45pm
surprise…so crime will rise as the entitlement folks won’t be able to to afford items on their fixed income (neither will I but I don’t feel I’m entitled to anything I did not earn or was gifted) so society continues to deteriorate and the ponsi sceme continues.

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- Popp40
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:03pm
  Actually the government will just increase the amount of entitlements get by taking even more from those of us paying taxes. So they won’t feel anything and will still keep getting the freebies.
  
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- Popp40
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:13pm
  But crime will still rise especially when they take the guns away from law abiding citizens.
  
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Timmy_NorthWest
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:39pm
libs have done this for decades. with barry in charge they now feel justified and enabled to step on a person’s rights.”The end justified the means”. go suck eggs.

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- Free_Thought
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:50pm
  I was not aware that not paying higher taxes was a right. Interesting.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:23pm
  Freebie
  Theft is tax. You have no right to my money, uncle has less right. Taking without permission is what again? Legal and Biblical ramifications. Theft. How is vegas treating you and retirement you betting guru you?
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:49pm
  NO_COHERENTHTOUGHT….yesterday one of you lefty dolts (you’re all interchangable and essentially cardboard cut-outs of each other so it’s hard to keep track of you as individuals) farted on these boards that it’s not the amount of money the successful (he used “rich” or “1%” because that’s what your trainers tell you to keep repeating) pay in taxes but it’s the “burden” that has to be levelled.
  So you can answer for him since he didn’t have the courage to answer for his idiocy…..when did you lefties begin believing that punitive taxation is the “right” of whover you idiots believe is arbiter of “fairness” at any given time? “Fairness” is not a dog whistle by the way….just saying…
  
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RaydocX
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:38pm
2% payroll tax on every working American, don’t forget

as to the assertion that the tax should be ‘paid by the company’ the Left cannot seem to understand corporations don’t pay taxes… they merely collect more money from consumers to cover any tax that is levied…

so the cost of the medical devices will go up 2.5 or 2.6% to cover the cost and the cost of the additional income generated by the increase.

But never fear, there will still not be enough of the necessary devices, so the bureaucrat manned death panels are on their way… labeled something bland of course (Federal Individual Need Evaluation, maybe?)

all the more reason to visit cabela’s… firearm, check… ammunition, check… reloading supplies, check.

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- Mapache
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:48pm
  No company will raise prices JUST to cover the tax. If the tax is 2.3% they will raise prices by 3-4% and blame the increase on the medical device tax. I could not blame them since they will additionally be hit by the increased Obamacare coverage.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:51pm
  Well said, Ray.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:54pm
  @MAPACHE, That would only work in a monopolistic system. There are quite a few medical device firms, so it is unlikely the competition would allow them to go the route of raising prices above and beyond what their competitors would raise them.
  
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- Think_4_yourself
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:07pm
  @Ray….you said it all and allow me to ellborate, teh government KNOWS that the companies will pass the “savings” on to the customer. This is a tax designed to tax the common folk without them knowing they are being targeted for the tax, all the gubment needs to do is point the finger at “Cabelas” and scream that they are bad. It is a way for the goverment to tax us and blame it on someone else…….it’s a beautiful plan.
  
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702TruthSeeker
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:33pm
here you go

http://www.basspro.com/

the progressives aredoing all the work for us:
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/02/27/433107/romney-nascar-owner-donor/?mobile=nc

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- 702TruthSeeker
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:38pm
  if you have never been inside a basspro shop, you seriously need to go!! people need to start putting their money where their mouth is and support those who share our view of the world instead of following trends and ad campaigns, which is all the progressives are good at
  
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- 702TruthSeeker
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:17pm
  from their own mouth:
  
  https://information.cabelas.com/support/
  
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Rowgue
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:33pm
Wow what a revelation. The people responsible for actually paying the taxes and filing the offiical forms increase their prices and don’t actually see any impact from increased sales taxes. Who would have ever thought that possible.

Friggen idiots.

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:38pm
  What else is new?
  
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- circleDwagons
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:34pm
  The other choice is that they go out of business. O does not care if the public can get needed meds or equipment.
  
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woodyee
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:26pm
Hey! Libasholes! YEP! Taxes be going up for EVERYBODY.

WE’RE getting what we didn’t vote for. YOU’RE getting what you deserve. Laugh it up LIV’s…

(Low Information Voter)

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- DontStopBelieving
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:35pm
  “computer glitch” my a$$…….
  
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:25pm
End Government Tyranny NOW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgCemznb6Lc

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demsrtraitors
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:25pm
and how many of you are still loving your “liberal friend’ now? Many of you conservatives say you have liberal friends and they are just laughing behind your back. Would you have a pedophile as a friend? a rapist? a murderer? Knowing they want to do you harm why would any of you befriend a liberal.

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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:31pm
  aw, poor baby.
- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:49pm
  I don’t acknowledge or associate with any family members who are leftists, let alone acquaintances. I will not truck with fascist statists, regardless of who they are. If space aliens invaded and my only choice was to side with the aliens or leftists, I’ll side with the space aliens, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:28pm
  cavallo…perhaps you should move where you don’t distain over half the population. I have a feeling you leftist family members won’t miss you.
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:53pm
  Steve, LOL!
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:01pm
  Don’t care, because I don’t miss them. I already live in the area of the country that has a lower percentage of fascist leftist autocrats. Makes for pleasant and clean living. I do have to be around one leftist at work but he is pushing retirement very soon.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:35pm
  Steve and Top = Low Information Voters
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:36pm
  oh ..you must live in one of those “taker” states, huh?
  
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- stevetherealist
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:39pm
  Mr sunshine??? now thats funny!
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:49pm
  MrSunshine, “low information voter” must be the new catch phrase. All the beckbots use it, and all the rightwing talkers use it twice per minute. Brainwashed turd.
  
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- MrSunshine
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:06pm
  Top, I’m using it all over the place today. I picked that up from Rush though, not Beck. I like it! I hope you do too.
  
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- checkingbothsides
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:27pm
  Yes, let’s only associate with people who think exactly the same way we do! Then we don’t have to be exposed to any alternative lines of thought! You idiots. No wonder you live in an information bubble and thought Romney would win by a landslide.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:49pm
  Mr Sun
  He not only likes it, he lives it.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:05pm
  @Checking, That is what the internet is for. That way one can see them at arms length, like a zoo. I have no desire to pretend to want to be in the vicinity of animals that would seek my enslavement robbery and destruction. Nor should they desire to be around those of us that wish to see them sicken with a flesh eating disease and die horribly and painfully in some underfunded bureaucratic nightmare of their own making. I don’t desire to have associates and friends who are pedophiles, murderers, thieves, drug dealers or leftists. Although all the former on that list have more morals than the leftists and are likely far more pleasant to be around. As far as their lines of thought, they don’t seem to divate much from Marx, Engels, Lenin, Mao, and Saloth Sar, except in their obfuscation attempts to hide their source philosophies.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:18pm
  BOTTOM_DWELLER…the shoe fits you…wear it.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 4:20pm
  CAVALLO..”at arm’s length..like a zoo”…LOL. Hilarious..hats off to you.
  
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- GPS-Tech
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:41pm
  @Steve the little btch and top masturbator
  Steve told Top that last night he made two hundered dollars and five cents giving out hummers in the alley. Top asked him who paid five cents? Steve replied…All of them. Now Top is spam posting links about his best friends easy money scheme he is now using.
  
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- flipper1073
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:17am
  Come on Guys,
  Steve Has Reading Comprehension Issues.
  They used to Call it Developmentally Disabled.
  Not sure what Top’s problem is But they are Both
  “USEFULL IDIOT’S” Joseph Stalin .
  
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fgarvin
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:23pm
Goodbye Cabelas !

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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:32pm
  Yeah, right. All bark and no bite from posters on the Blaze. From boycotts to civil war, all I see is talk talk talk.
- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:40pm
  @TOP_CONTRIBUTOR
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  Use the REPORT POST BUTTON in the bottom right corner of a troll’s post
  
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- Rothbardian_in_the_Cleve
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:49pm
  How exactly would you prefer to be informed of shopping decisions I make on a daily basis? Just curious.
  
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- ArmedAndReallyPissed
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:47pm
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:32pm
  Yeah, right. All bark and no bite from posters on the Blaze. From boycotts to civil war, all I see is talk talk talk.
  
  AND YOUR DOING WHAT EXACTLY ?
  
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- Top_Contributor
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:31pm
  @ArmedAndReallyPissed, answer the question. The comment wasn’t about what I’m doing, the comment was about what you all are not doing, despite all your rhetoric. Respond to the comment, don’t do the typical dodge, which by no coincidence is a perfect example of what I was talking about in the first place.
  
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- GPS-Tech
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 5:46pm
  @Top masturbator
  What are we doing about it? All the sporting good stores are sold out of AR-15s. Figure it out jerkoff.
  
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- AvengerK
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 7:48pm
  In typical lefty fashion BOTTOM_DWELLER…you seem think all people think like lefties. I’m happy to inform your mental illness is not a pandemic.
  
  You lefties are the ones screaming for revolutions and occupations and anarchy..remember?
  
  Conservatives and libertarians want to protect what’s theirs, their country and their constitution.
  
  This wasn’t for your benefit, you’re beyond educating and you’re far too indocrinated to even attempt to listen to anyone outside your liberal bubble. This is for the sake of clarity on this thread.
  
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fgarvin
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:20pm
Blaze – Thanks for the heads up. If anyone finds a site that allows the reporting of Dumbo’s theft attempts, cause that’s really all he is is a common Thief, so that we can boycott all those businesses that dump new taxes on us. But for now, goodbye Cabelas!

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:30pm
  They have to dump the taxes on you. They can hide them, but you will always pay them. Taxes are a cost of doing business. That cost must be allocated somewhere and I severely doubt that they are going to just take it on the chin and reduce their margins, unless they are competing against a firm that does not have to pay the tax.
  
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- Mike Opelka
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:32pm
  FYI – Cabela’s has claimed it was a glitch and will auto-refund to credit card purchasers… cash recpts have to come in to the store.
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:32pm
  apparently you didn’t read the article – huh?
  
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- fgarvin
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:00pm
  If you believe that it is a glitch, you should continue to shop there. I’m moving entirely to the tax free underground.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:04pm
  “I’m moving entirely to the tax free underground.”
  
  That, I whole heartedly support.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:20pm
  FGarvin
  
  You will starve to death if you boycott every business that passes on tax costs. All businesses do this and have been doing since the first tax was created.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:22pm
  Mike of course it was a glitch those are taxes Cabela are suppose to being paying. They correct the glitch and raise the cost of goods to cover the tax….either way we pay I would much rather see the truth of what drives the cost of goods aka each tax laid out on the business by the government a than a simple cost increase on my fishing gear. The government wouldn’t though
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:31pm
  Remember that Ebay does charge some fees. So your best bet is direct international internet sales, although there are some risks of reliability. Of course I have seen some industries that are too afraid of the guberment and its jackbooted thugs at the IRS to ship to the US. Any effort to rob the beast of its ill gotten stolen gains is okay by me (until they start to be responsible, which will be never).
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:20pm
So, by hiding it at the manufacturing level, they want to make sure the consumer doesn’t know why the cost of his wheelchair, walker, etc is going up and will assume that it is the result of the cliche of “prices go up all the time.” bit. They want to rob you blind. Then there are those that none are so blind as those that will not see. Some don’t want to know they are being robbed.

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- Popp40
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:00pm
  Just wait until inflation hits!!!!!
  
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- pigletrios
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:35pm
  Every medical cost that is passed to the consumer through purchases should be identified on the receipts! This is brilliant!
  
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- ADNIL
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 2:56pm
  When my elderly mother needed a few adaptive pieces of equipment, like grab-rails and hand holds near the john and in the shower, I found some at the hardware store for $15 and the exact same thing from a “medical equipment supply” company for $75. The ONLY real difference was that her insurance company would cover the cost of the $75 hand rails but NOT the $15 rails (because of the “medical supply” designation on the invoice). And we wonder why medical insurance costs so much.
  
  Guess what they charge for an aspirin in the hospital……. bring your own.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:29pm
  @Adnil, Re: Hospital Aspirin, Its not a grand conspiracy, just the way the costing works there as well. You have to divide the cost up of all the amenities in the hospital among the various items utilized by the patient. Electricity, Water, Doctors, Nurses, Linens, Clothes, Bandages, Machines, and other various overhead all have to see some kind of reimbursement on the consumer level in some manner or even the non-profit organization goes away.
  Yes, bring your own. Most facilities have good procedures to handle home medications.
  I wonder if a hardware store, or even some place like Wal-Mart should look into designating some of their merchandise explicitly as medical devices so as to allow consumers to seek insurance reimbursement.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 9:25am
  I have government health insurace, basically, because my husband is retired military. Before Obamacare, they reimbursed at about 19% for an MRI. Now it’s about 9%. I’ve had two different cancer drugs not approved and my doctor had to pick second best (and that’s in the last 6 months). I was in the ER for a spike in BP, and the hospital had to write off 91% of the bill…yes, the government only paid 9% of an ER visit.
  
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sparkyrules
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:17pm
Whether its on the receipt or hidden in the products cost,we’re all going to pay it one way or another.

I think this is a great idea though.Have the tax plainly shown on every receipt when its being implemented.

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IndyGuy
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:17pm
The Beatles “Taxman” comes to mind…

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- spirited
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 3:47pm
  As well:
  
  Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose
  And nothing ain’t worth nothing honey if it ain’t free
  
  …But I’d trade all of my tomorrows, for one single yesterday… -Fred L Foster, Kris Kristofferson
  
  >Once the bamboozled feel –and understand– the direct effects, they’ll be singing da blues
  
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DDD
Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:13pm
Of course any tax increase will be passed onto the consumer. It always is.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 12:27pm
  Leftists seem to think that businesses will just take taxes out of their margin and be happy with it. Taxes are a cost of doing business and are added to the base price of the item. Sometimes that cost is divided up on products differently depending on the internal cost accounting used by the firm, but the effect of taking money from the business will always be felt by the consumer.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on January 4, 2013 at 1:15pm
  @Cavallo: It’s not just leftists, although they are the main benefactor of such evil schemes. Stupid, ignorant, and apathetic people just don’t get it. Unfortunately, in their stupidity, ignorance and apathy they unwittingly support evil leftist ideologies and agendas which we all pay the price for once implemented.
  
  Evil is our enemy but so also is ignorance, stupidity and apathy.
  
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