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AP Analysis: Republican Party Seems ‘Angry and Divided’ as Ever — Do You Agree?

Jan. 5, 2013 6:06pm Erica Ritz

Associated Press: Republican Party as Angry and Divided as Ever

US Representative John Boehner, Republican of Ohio, holds up his gavel after being re-elected as Speaker of the House during the opening session of the 113th US House of Representatives at the US Capitol in Washington, DC, on January 3, 2013. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

(AP) — The Republican Party seems as divided and angry as ever.

Infighting has penetrated the highest levels of the House GOP leadership. Long-standing geographic tensions have increased, pitting endangered Northeastern Republicans against their colleagues from other parts of the country. Enraged tea party leaders are threatening to knock off dozens of Republicans who supported a measure that raised taxes on the nation’s highest earners.

“People are mad as hell. I’m right there with them,” Amy Kremer, chairman of the Tea Party Express said late last week, declaring that she has “no confidence” in the party her members typically support. Her remarks came after GOP lawmakers agreed to higher taxes but no broad spending cuts as part of a deal to avert the “fiscal cliff.”

“Anybody that voted `yes’ in the House should be concerned” about primary challenges in 2014, she said.

At the same time, one of the GOP’s most popular voices, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, blasted his party’s “toxic internal politics” after House Republicans initially declined to approve disaster relief for victims of Superstorm Sandy. He said it was “disgusting to watch” their actions and he faulted the GOP’s most powerful elected official, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.

In this Friday, Jan. 4, 2013 photo, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie poses for a photograph in his office at the Statehouse in Trenton, N.J. (Photo: AP)

The GOP’s internal struggles to figure out what it wants to be were painfully exposed after Mitt Romney’s loss to President Barack Obama on Nov. 6, but they have exploded in recent days. The fallout could extend well beyond the party’s ability to win policy battles on Capitol Hill. It could hamper Republicans as they examine how to regroup and attract new voters after a disheartening election season.

To a greater degree than the Democrats, the Republican Party has struggled with internal divisions for the past few years. But these latest clashes have seemed especially public and vicious.

“It’s disappointing to see infighting in the party,” said Ryan Williams, a Republican operative and former Romney aide. “It doesn’t make us look like we’re in a position to challenge the president and hold him accountable to the promises he made.”

What’s largely causing the dissension? A lack of a clear GOP leader with a single vision for the party.

(Photo: AP via Politico)

Republicans haven’t had a consistent standard-bearer since President George W. Bush left office in 2008 with the nation on the edge of a financial collapse. His departure, along with widespread economic concerns, gave rise to a tea party movement that infused the GOP’s conservative base with energy. The tea party is credited with broad Republican gains in the 2010 congressional elections, but it’s also blamed for the rising tension between the pragmatic and ideological wings of the party – discord that festers still.

It was much the same for Democrats in the late 1980s before Bill Clinton emerged to win the White House and shift his party to the political center.

2012 presidential nominee Romney never fully captured the hearts of his party’s most passionate voters. But his tenure atop the party was short-lived; since Election Day, he’s disappeared from the political world.

Those Republican leaders who remain engaged – Christie, Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus – are showing little sign of coming together.

Those on the GOP’s deep bench of potential 2016 presidential contenders, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, have begun staking out their own, sometimes conflicting ideas for the party.

U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla. , speaks during Iowa Gov. Terry Branstad’s annual birthday fundraiser, Saturday, Nov. 17, 2012, in Altoona, Iowa. (Photo: AP)

Over the short term at least, the party’s divisions probably will continue to be exposed.

Obama has outlined a second-term agenda focused on immigration and gun control; those are issues that would test Republican solidarity even in good times. Deep splits already exist between Republican pragmatists and the conservative base, who oppose any restrictions on guns or allowances for illegal immigrants.

It’s unclear whether Obama can exploit the GOP fissures or whether the Republican dysfunction will hamper him. With Boehner unable to control his fractured caucus, the White House is left wondering how to deal with the House on any divisive issue.

Fiscal issues aren’t going away, [even if] lawmakers were [to] agree on a broad deficit-reduction package. The federal government reached its borrowing limit last week, so Congress has about two months or three months to raise the debt ceiling or risk a default on federal debt. Massive defense and domestic spending cuts are set to take effect in late February. By late March, the current spending plan will end, raising the possibility of a government shutdown.

Frustrated conservative activists and GOP insiders hope that the continued focus on fiscal matters will help unite the factions as the party pushes for deep spending cuts. That fight also may highlight Democratic divisions because the party’s liberal wing vehemently opposes any changes to Social Security or Medicare

“Whenever you lose the White House, the party’s going to have ups and downs,” said Republican strategist Ron Kaufman. “My guess is when the spending issues come up again, the Democrats’ warts will start to show as well.”

Republican Congressman Peter King of New York and other lawmakers speak to reporters after meeting with House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, over the delayed vote on aid for the victims of Superstorm Sandy, at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 2, 2013. (Photo: AP)

The GOP’s fissures go beyond positions on issues. They also are geographical.

Once a strong voice in the party, moderate Republicans across the Northeast are nearly extinct. Many of those who remain were frustrated in recent days when Boehner temporarily blocked a vote on a disaster relief bill.

Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said campaign donors in the Northeast who give the GOP after the slight “should have their head examined.”

Boehner, who just won a second term as speaker, quickly scheduled a vote on a narrower measure for Friday after the new Congress convened, and it rushed out a $9.7 billion measure to help pay flood insurance claims.

Weary Republican strategists are trying to be hopeful about the GOP’s path ahead, and liken the current situation to party’s struggles after Obama’s 2008 election. At the time, some pundits questioned the viability of the Republican Party. But it came roaring back two years later, thanks largely to the tea party.

“If we have learned anything from the fiscal cliff fiasco, conservatives discovered we need to stand firm, and stand together, on our principles from beginning to end,” said Republican strategist Alice Stewart. “It’s frustrating to see the GOP drop the ball and turn a position of true compromise into total surrender. The Democrats succeeded in their strategy of divide and conquer.”

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Associated Press writers Ken Thomas and Ben Feller in Washington contributed to this report.

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NOBALONEY
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:57pm
Jon Boehner is a figurehead. The “Fiscal Cliff’ passage by Congress is a prelude to Obama’s second term. There’s no stopping Obama. The Senate still has its majority plus two. In the House although the GOP picked up two more. The power for passing bills is with the Democrates, and the Rinos. Boehner couldn’t get the necessary votes to pas his “Plan B”, but on the day of the passage of the “Fiscal Clif” bill. Nanacy Pelosi at 3:10pm on CSPA was confident of passage, and demanded an up or down vote. No amendments, Boehner put it to the up or down vote eight hours later. For New Jersey, only one repulican congressman voted NO, Scott Garrett 5th District. Frank LoBiondo 2nd Disrict, Jon Runyan 3rd District, Chris Smith 4th District, Leonard Lance 7th District, and Rodney Frelinghuysen 11th District voted YES. New Jersey is officially a purple state.

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- lillymckim
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:43pm
  NO Tax increases.
  Debt reduction.
  Entitlement reform
  Defunding of ObamaCare.
  
  These are the “talking points” they ALL RAN ON.
  
  The “Grand Bargain” was some Republicans voted as “Democrats” without the “D” in front of their names.
  Republicans went to the left and they went over the cliff and they lost a lot of credibility with many.
  To say we are very angry and we the people are very divided is putting it mildly.
  
  2014/2016 is coming and we wont forget.
  I for one wont forget what the House Republicans have done to squander their power the power
  WE THE PEOPLE GAVE THEM IN 2010 and how in two short years they squandered our votes.
  
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- lillymckim
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:58pm
  I’m afraid the Republicans on the Hill have just agreed to become a one party nation.
  
  We the makers are out numbered by the takers.
  We have candidates who refuse to fix the fraud in the USA by making a voters ID mandatory nationwide.
  We have a state run media who works for the election of the Democratic Party.
  
  We are outnumbered.
  I honestly feel we will never win another election … sorry but thats how I see it.
  
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- trickball
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:18pm
  No! The hell with AP! Associated Press is a fraud and always out to get the Republican Party.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:43pm
  Republican Party Seems ‘Angry and Divided’ as Ever — Do You Agree?
  
  That’s a rhetorical question right? House Republicans can’t even pass their own bills (plan B). Republican Mitch McConnell filibustered his own bill for goodness sake. Republicans are at each others throats in the news.
  
  The US government is broken. And, no, don’t blame the entire government. Don’t blame the President and don’t blame the Senate, even though the Founders are rolling over in their graves at the fact that the Senate can’t even vote on legislation without a super-majority – 60 – votes.
  
  The House is dysfunctional, unable to themselves to pass any legislation that doesn’t meet fringe right demands, and let’s face it, those guys aren’t going to vote “yes” on any bill, unless it’s to ban gay marriage, or eliminate civil rights or something similar.
  
  I’m convinced history will not look kindly on the those obstructionist extremists who are willing and even happy to destroy the country by preventing the US government from acting by majority rule as our Founder’s intended.
  
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- avgconservative
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:10pm
  Yeah, a vote for the doctor would have put the constitution on track, and the country speaking Farsi.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:21pm
  @SENDTHEMETEORS
  
  “by preventing the US government from acting by majority rule as our Founder’s intended.”
  
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  
  The Founding Fathers Hated Democracy and thought it was the worst form of Government there was.
  
  They understood democracy was a necessary evil, and must be limited.
  
  That is why they used the Terms “unalienable” and “not to be infringed”.
  
  I don’t care if 99% of the people vote against my right to free speech. owning a gun, my right to privacy, my ability to seek redress and voice my greivances with the Trustees (Government),
  and to a speedy and fair trail by by peers.
  
  99% percent of the people CAN NOT vote on those INHERENT RIGHTS !!!!!!!
  
  Democracy does NOT APPLY to THOSE !!!!!!
  
  You, and all the other indoctrinated people, need to watch this.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RewUP-Fdhqk
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:29pm
  @Sendthemeteors
  
  Just to be clear, POLITICIANS CAN NOT vote on my Inherent Rights.
  
  The people should have cut the head off the King, in 1215.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:34pm
  For all the Dumb@$$e$ out there….
  
  “UNALIENABLE” and “NOT TO BE INFRINGED” means:
  
  “NOT TO BE VOTED ON”.
  
  Neither BY the PEOPLE, or the TRUSTEES (Public Servants/Politicians)
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:44pm
  @Trickball
  
  Did you know that AP and Reuters are owned by the same men that own the IMF/Worldbank/United Nations?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnPDADegFZM
  
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- E.Souchak
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:30am
  The establishment is not trying to stop Obama, they never were.
  
  The Valerie Plame Case: Why was Patrick Fitzgerald appointed Special Counsel?
  
  http://illinoispaytoplay.com/2013/01/03/the-valerie-plame-case-why-was-patrick-fitzgerald-appointed-special-counsel/
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:43am
  Moron says, “The Founding Fathers Hated Democracy and thought it was the worst form of Government there was.”
  
  Okay. That’s you’re claim and you’re sticking to it. So what kind of government did they prefer and why didn’t they establish this country with that kind of government instead of the one they did? And what makes you think that the Founders believed every act of legislation should require a 60% vote? Can you reference the Constitution on that?
  
  And, I have to ask, you’re afraid “The Government” is going to outlaw freedom of speech? Really? Have you talked to anyone about this?
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:53am
  All should leave the GOP and let the coffers run dry. Then you will see change.
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 1:14am
  MICHAELMORON – your platform is this concept of inherited rights. Inherited from whom? This is sounding like religion and now your on different ground.
  
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- Obama_Sham
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:07am
  At Simpleton… To find where certain rights are inherited from, read the Declaration of Independence…
  
  At Sendthemeteors (JZS)… We are a Constitutional Republic, not a democracy… The simple fact that the majority rules but not at the expense of the minority is what separates us from a traditional democracy… However, I do agree that the 60% crap in the Senate is beyond stupid… But, at the same time, the Senate members should be appointed by their respective state legislatures and not by the people as was originally intended…
  
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- joey g
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:18am
  i call em “repukins” they make me sick…worst than dems…dems at least say who they are..not lie like ***** and his clowns….screw em all//
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:05am
  This is an e-mail sent to me.
  
  Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:
  
  “I could end the deficit in 5 minutes,” he told CNBC. “Y…ou just
  pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more
  than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible
  for re-election.
  
  The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds)
  took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple!
  The people demanded it. That was in 1971 – before computers, e-mail,
  cell phones, etc.
  
  Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year
  or less to become the law of the land – all because of public pressure.
  
  Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to
  a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask
  each of those to do likewise.
  
  In three days, most people in The United States of America will
  have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed
  around.
  
  Congressional Reform Act of 2012* *(It would now have to be 2013)
  
  1. No Tenure / No Pension.
  
  A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no
  pay when they’re out of office.
  
  2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social
  Security.
  
  Cont…
  
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- West Coast Patriot
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:06am
  …All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
  Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into
  the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the
  American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.
  
  3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all
  Americans do.
  
  4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
  Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.
  
  5. Congress loses their current health care system and
  participates in the same health care system as the American people.
  
  6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the
  American people.
  
  7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void
  effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this
  contract with Congressmen/women.
  
  Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
  Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
  envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
  term(s), then go home and back to work.
  
  If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will
  only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive
  the message. Don’t you think it’s time?
  
  THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!
  
  If you agree, pass it on in an e-mail to at least twenty people..
  
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- Obama Been Lauding
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:47am
  Few of us really “know” the representatives that are in Washington D.C.
  With that said, I believe that Speaker Boehner has landed himself in a bad situation. He has his own party members speaking out about things, before he can talk things over with “all of them”.
  It is sometimes like herding cats!!!
  I think he realizes that he must do something to close the pursestrings, and that the battle on taxes got out of hand before the election was over, with Republicans hinting they would vote for higher taxes on the so-called wealthy. So, he offered Obama exactly what Obama had said he wanted, “make the millionaires and billionaires pay their fair share”. This was to let everyone see, that Obama wanted more than what he said, “A bold-faced Lie”.
  As I said before, I do not know Speaker Boehner personally, but I “think” the fight will be brought to bear with the Debt Ceiling. At least that will tell me the true intentions, and how much the Republicans are willing to fight for “All of Us, present and future”!!!
  Please, do not let us down!!!!
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:56am
  @ Smpleton – buy a dictionary – Michael said inherent – not inherit – 2 different words – 2 different meanings – “sigh*
  
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- Obama Been Lauding
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:10am
  Hey, Send in the Meat-eaters,
  You have left out of your statement the “Fact” that the Senate has not submitted a budget in the whole 4 years Obama has been in office. Oh, and the “Fact” Obama’s budget plan has been voted down, by “ALL Democrats and Republicans” in both houses of Congress.
  Now, with that said, who are the idiots that want to “tax and spend” with no threshold?
  Also, the House has sent countless bills to the Senate, but your “Anonymous sources Leader Reid” will not even look at them. So, who are the obstructionists here? Progressives, Democrats, and idiots like yourself.
  
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- SamIamTwo
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:56am
  Let’s not forget that ANGER got the left in power…and it is time to be angry over everything as it begins to crumble. You are going to see the dems split soon. You can’t spend your way out of a deficit…and they know it. They are pushing it to the limit. They know they can take gas prices to 4bucks, they know they can artificially suppress the inflation rate, the unemployment rate, etc etc. Lady Marinade lives off of propaganda. Moo power.
  
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- Tennis_Bum
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 9:44am
  Paul Ryan also voted for the Fiscal Cliff Deal. I will not be fooled again. Ryan does not get my vote for President next election. I will stay home before voting for Ryan.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:04am
  SendTheMeteors
  Moron says, “The Founding Fathers Hated Democracy and thought it was the worst form of Government there was.”
  
  Okay. That’s you’re claim and you’re sticking to it. So what kind of government did they prefer and why didn’t they establish this country with that kind of government instead of the one they did?
  ****
  “In the Pledge of Allegiance we all pledge allegiance to our Republic, not to a democracy”
  
  “The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly–through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy.”
  
  1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm
  thisnation.com/question/011.html
  
  We are not a pure Democracy in the mechanics of our government. A hoity-toity person like Meteors with a high falutin degree from a degree from a prestigious university would know that.
  So why did he or she try? Trolling
  
  That the U.S. is not a ‘direct’ democracy, but a Republic, is seen in how we outlasted the French Revolution & avoided The Terror. Funny how the the French Revolutionaries were shocked when the French “Dear Leader” set up a new ‘logical’ religion
  
  The Founders preferred a Rep
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:10am
  Send the Trolls
  
  “The vision of a “respectable nation” among nations seemed to be fading in the eyes of revolutionaries such as George Washington, Benjamin Franklin and Rufus King. Their dream of a REPUBLIC, a nation without hereditary rulers, with power derived from the people in frequent elections, was in doubt” -wiki
  
  Why pile on? Because the disingenuous troll needs to be answered for such brazen lies.
  
  We all know that the troll knows the difference between a Republic & a direct Democracy. So why lie like Goebbels. Because they have a lefty agenda.
  
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- Twinspeedr
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:27pm
  We don’t want unity in either party, that when they are most dangerous to us. I would love to see the same discord and confusion in the Dems. it can only slow the government down which is a good thing.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:36pm
  Osama, I see you bought it hook, line and sinker. No, Congress didn’t vote down Obama’s budget. A Republican put forward caricature legislation that he claimed was the President’s budget but which was not. Of course Democrats voted against it. It was political theater. And to some degree it had the desired affect, i.e. your post.
  
  Walkabout, okay, I hear that stuff about America being a constitutional republic not democracy all the time. Whatever. I’d think you and people like you actually understood different forms of government that your distinction implies if you’d ever stop misusing the word “communism,” “socialism” and so on.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:43pm
  Send the Meteors
  
  ” I hear that stuff about America being a constitutional republic not democracy all the time”
  
  You just want to deny it & propagandize other into believing it until your kind gets ultimate power & go NEWSPEAK on the rest of us.
  
  We know your kind.
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:09pm
  We need to have ‘rino hunter’ web site where all the guys running aginst the RiNOs are listed so we can send them Money…..Star wth Boehner, the Rep from the Woodlands (Kevin Brady) who sold his vote for a chairmanship ranks up there to.
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:42pm
  I just LMAO every time a stupid article like this comes out about the GOP. Most of us who WERE JFK Democrats figured out a long time ago that the Democratic Party had changed. Way too much for us. So we voted for Reagan in 1980. The two parties have drifted ideologically further and further apart. Then there is this current nauseating conversation about whether the GOP should be more gay friendly or abortion friendly or whatever. Puke. Give me the barf bucket. Then the TEA Party arrived. Ahhh. Fresh air. The GOP is in the process of getting rid of these OLD FARTS like Gingrich, Rove, Cheney, etc. and putting in TEA PARTY people who want uncontrolled spending and tax increases to start. But this takes time. The GOP may split. Or the Tea Party may become a new party. But in any case what we are seeing is a restructuring or necessary split. Americans are punked with the word “unity” and they fall for that word every stupid time. The GOP has to change to thwart the Democrats. They are kicking and screaming to do it. But, they will. Eventually. Give it time. Stop believing stupid crap articles like this one and stupid predictions that all is lost and the Democrats cannot be stopped. They can be stopped and they will be stopped. Give it time.
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:46pm
  On another note: God forbid that anyone be righteously angry at an election thieved by massive voter fraud. Cause we all know that being righteously angry about anything ILLEGAL is wrong. Puke bucket please.
  
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- scarydave
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:18pm
  Screw the Republicans, the Democrats and their closest allies the Liberatarians. What we need is a new political base that believes in the things our Founders did. I think 2013 will be the year that people get smart and organize for any number of bad outcomes due to the policies of Obama’s Marxist administration and our idiot Reps in Congress. My suggestions… Join or start a local Militia. Do NOT allow our government to take away ANY of our 2nd Amendment rights, by any means necessary. Buy lot’s of ammo or better yet learn to make your own and buy a lot of the supplies you will need to do it with. Learn to Barter more. And finally… make this the year that you swear to leave the USA better for your offspring than what we were given by our parents. It is after-all an unwritten American rule and always has been, so it has become our patriotic duty!
  However it will take a lot of people doing some extraordinary things in 2013 so we can start to take back the Country we all dearly love.
  Also… We need a dynamic Leader to emerge before we can become a real movement (it’s just the way it is so don’t ask me why. It just is). Please know that some of us are NOT waiting for a Leader to magically appear. Instead we are presently actively looking for that leader. Pray for us.
  
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- scarydave
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:24pm
  CAUTION: sendthemeteors is a certified Class A – #1 moron. Here’s just a small snippet of their ass-inine thinking to prove it… “Don’t blame the President and don’t blame the Senate…”.
  What a dweeb.
  
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- Lily82
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:47pm
  Mitch McConnell was on the Sunday shows today and said they were successful in NOTraising the taxes of 99% of Americans…Did I miss something? Didn’t the payroll tax on everyone go up by 2%? This is the problem with GOP. They don’t get their messaging straight or consistent.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 9:01pm
  Simpletruths
  
  Religion? Where do my rights come from?
  
  Maybe my rights come from god. Maybe they come from Mother Nature. Maybe they come from aliens. Maybe they come from a rock.
  
  BOTTOM LINE ????
  
  My rights don’t come from you, a president, a congress, a supreme court justice or any other MAN.
  
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- king1
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:12pm
  As it stands now you can’t trust republicans anymore never could trust democrats. time for a new party maybe a combination of libritarians, conservative republicans, conservatives the tea party and independents. something needs to be done.
  
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- king1
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:16pm
  trickball the only time ap tells the truth is when it suits there need, this is one of those times the republicans become the wigg party time to go back to basics – let our yeses be our yeses and no’s be no.
  
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- savagenatn
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:42am
  the repubs should be angry and should feel betrayed by the pink tie wearing RINO *****. This guy is a joke, and the ones who should be crying every five seconds are the American people who continue to get screwed daily by these horses asses. It’s bad enough the ******* mental disorder demoncrats do all they can to screw us like we’re Jenna Jameson, we have to take it from the phony repubs too!!
  
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:57pm
FYI…

LEFTIST Paul Ryan:
UNCONSTITUTIONAL CISPA
UNCONSTITUTIONAL TARP (which ignited the Tea Party AGAINST HIM)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Auto Bailouts
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Economic Stimulus 2008
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Economic Stimulus 2009
Debt ceiling hikes
Comprehensive immigration reform without amnesty (AMNESTY)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Socialized employment (extending UC)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Socialized education (No Child Left Behind)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Socialized medicine (Medicare Prescription Drug “benefits”)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Socialized housing (Section 8 vouchers)
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Head Start
UNCONSTITUTIONAL “Patriot” Act
UNCONSTITUTIONAL NDAA
UNCONSTITUTIONAL Nation-building
MORE UNCONSTITUTIONAL nation-building
UNCONSTITUTIONAL H.R. 347 (protest chilling)

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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:53pm
  Rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, ad nauseum.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:01pm
  it never gets old either
  
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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:02pm
  You got it, Anonymous T! Repetition is necessary for people who keep doing the same thing over and over and over… (to the point of becoming COMPLICIT)…
  
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  “Better evil” = evil.
  
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- NOT A CRAZY
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:20pm
  So Bro, besides your boy, who would you choose to run for office? I am with you on not wanting any RINO’s or non-conservatives but we need someone that a majority can agree on. We don’t need someone like Ron Paul that can’t unite the Right due to his stubborn inability to flex on a couple of major issues (like not funding Israel). Don’t worry I know you won’t answer. I don’t even think you have an answer. You are all negative with nothing to offer.
  
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- therealconservative
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:23pm
  The problem with the Repub party is that we have too many pot heads, pacifists and liberal losers such as Brother Liberal, Soysauce, Justbecause and others.
  
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- blanco5
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:34pm
  Why do people confuse liberals (leftys) with Libertarians?
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:34pm
  I Wonder why Democrat and Republican politicians are basically the same….
  
  HMMM…. duh……Maybe…… No…… Oh….. Can anybody give me some hints ?
  
  How about you, FDR?
  
  “The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson.”
  – President FD Roosevelt
  
  Hmm. Thx. anymore?
  
  “When the Federal Reserve Act was passed, the people of these United States did not perceive that a world banking system was being set up here. A super-state controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the world for their own pleasure. Every effort has been made by the Fed (Reserve) to conceal its powers but the truth is — the Fed has usurped the government!”
  Congressman Louis McFadden, Chairman of House Comm. on Banking and Currency from 1920 to 1931
  
  Wow !!! thx, McFadden. Now I think we are getting somewhere. I am sorry you were poisoned to death. I think I know why.
  
  Anyone else ?
  
  “Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of today.”
  
  ― Theodore Roosevelt
  
  Invisible Government. Thx, Teddy.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:44pm
  Invisible Government. Thats a pretty far fetched statement…. wait…..
  
  “This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President Wilson signs this bill, the INVISIBLE GOVERNMENT of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill. From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.”
  – Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr., 1913
  
  Wow !!! I think anyone with an I.Q.of 20 or more, can understand now.
  
  “I am afraid that the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do CREATE money, and they who control the credit of the nation direct the policies of governments and hold in their hands the destiny of the people.”
  – Reginald McKenna (1863-1943), President of the Midlands Bank of England, UK Chancellor 1915-16, January 1924
  
  “The Federal Reserve is one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that THIS NATION IS RUN by the international bankers.”
  – Congressman Louis T. McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee, June 20, 1932
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:57pm
  Imagine if these morons that wasted their vote on Romney, would have voted for the Doctor.
  
  The TSA would be gone
  The IRS would be gone
  The DHS would be gone
  The CIA, EPA, DOE, DoE, EPA, FBI and Many More, would all be GONE !!!!
  
  NO MORE INCOME TAX !!!!!
  
  Real American Money based on tangible assets, and NO MORE CENTRAL BANK Paper “NOTES” that are killing us with Interest !!!!
  
  But no, Now we have 4 more years of Odumbo, and his Communist manifesto.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:59pm
  So why dont you repeat over and over and over how FAMILIAR this sounds?
  You could swap the name to The Chocolate King and no one would know the difference:
  
  The Death Of Chavez
  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9782566/Death-of-Hugo-Chavez-could-set-off-shock-waves-across-region.html
  
  “The orchestra played and loyal lawmakers erupted in adulatory applause as Hugo Chavez invoked Fidel Castro and Jesus Christ as his revolutionary role models.
  
  His right hand raised, the fiery Venezuelan leader echoed the famous call to arms of his Cuban mentor. “Fatherland, socialism or death,” he proclaimed, then added with a typical flourish: “I swear by Christ, the greatest socialist in history.” That was six years ago as “El Commandante” was sworn in for his third term as president and blew kisses to rose petal-tossing crowds when he returned in an open-topped car to his palace to watch a military parade. “
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:20pm
  JFK was going to put a stop to all this nonsense.
  
  That is why they assassinated him:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYVCIdrcS6k
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:42pm
  by lefty you mean libertarian not liberal paul ryan right? because most of the things you named were GOP backed.. and alot were under Bush.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:12pm
  I am a PROBIEMSOIVER ;)
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:12pm
  @Keatonc33
  
  It was clear that Brother Winston Smith was making an observation that PAUL RYAN is a RINO, a progressive and a Freud.
  
  I can assure you that NO REAL libertarian would have endorsed ANY of the BILLS that Winston Mentioned.
  
  I am Sure Brother Winston is aware of the Left/Right paradigm.
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:45pm
  Unconstitutional. Constitutional. Neither word matters anymore. Only winning elections. Every person who wants a LEGAL election better do several things: demand paper ballots, remove electronic voting machines, prevent illegals from voting, require voter ID in every state, prevent George Soros from counting ballots, ensure proper voting procedures, etc. Election 2012 was fraudulent. Barack Obama is NOT the duly elected President of the United States. He was not LEGALLy elected. The GOP needs one lawsuit after another about Election 2012. They need to do so in all 50 states but particularly in OHio and Pennsylvania. Obvious Voter Fraud.
  
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:56pm
FYI…

Marco “tsunami of 2010″ Rubio:
FAKE-TEA GOP
Isolationist nation-building
The “Patriot” Act
Cosponsored PIPA (until it became politically unpopular)
NDAA
NDAA 2013
Dream Amnesty
Pathway Amnesty
Endorsed LEFTIST Scott Brown
Sanctions on Iran (act of war)

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- AUsername
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:39pm
  he wasn’t born in America just like Obama. our president should be someone of the majority group of population to.
  
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- blanco5
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:42pm
  I have been pointing out the same things til I’m blue in the face….why won’t people open their eyes and see? They were sooo williing to throw Ron Paul under the bus though.
  
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- Armyduderetired
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:58pm
  You get it never stop don’t be deterred by the sheeple on this site. Sides are drawn and as soon as the free stuff stops the games will begin. It really is about the constitution and liberty and freedom. I liken the political theater as professional wrestlers, it looks good in the ring but go behind closed doors and they are hugging on each other. Shameless bastards. All of them. Let the games begin!
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:27pm
  Indeed, let the games begin just to shut the bots up if nothing more.
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:25pm
  @Armyduderetired
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6y5MJtBuY
  
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- michaelmoron
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:52pm
  @Fubared
  
  You would be a real dumb@$$ to F#@K with a libertarian. Especially this one.
  
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TSUNAMI_22
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:55pm
It’s not a party of Democrats & Republicans anymore. It’s one large progressive oligarchy of varying degrees.

Where’s a Junta when you need one?

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- barber2
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:06pm
  Think the Chicago radicals have targeted them also.
  
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- TH777
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:26pm
  I’m beginning to wonder if we have anyone on the “people’s” side. I’m not sure we do anymore. Too many weak spines in the Republican party.
  
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- TSUNAMI_22
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:44pm
  @ TH777
  
  Ask that question after they ‘try’ to disarm the populace.
  
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- blanco5
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:49pm
  I hope you’re right, TSUNAMI.
  
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- TH777
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:59pm
  TSUNAMI_22: You don’t believe that they will eventually disarm us? I personally think we are losing a lot of ground. I don’t like it of course, but it just seems things are going against us in all ways!
  
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- TSUNAMI_22
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:26pm
  @ TH777
  
  Oh, they’ll try to disarm us. The numbers of gun owners against the oligarchy will be staggering.
  
  Read this. It will give you hope. Keep in mind that the figures are very conservative. We are much greater in number than 80 million. http://papundits.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/an-opinion-on-gun-control/
  
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Brother Winston Smith
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:53pm
Actually the LEFTIST republican party’s “division” is as FICTIONAL as the “division” between the LEFTIST republican party and the LEFTIST democrat party. ALL of these LEFTISTS must CREATE A SENSATIONALISTIC “WAR” among philosophies or world views… A COMPLETE ILLUSION, TO KEEP PEOPLE VOTING FOR THEM, UNDER THE FALSE PREMISE that the “bad” is being “cleansed” by the “good.”

**SPOILER ALERT**
BOTH LEFTIST PARTIES ARE LEFTIST! THEY WILL ALWAYS BE LEFTIST!

The Constitution Party.
The Libertarian Party.
State nullification.
NOW!!!!!!

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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:53pm
If anyone has any common sense they’re angry because we know what this governments doing and it’s not just the Marxist POS doing all the damage either. To be fair Bush gave us the patriot act TSA and medicare part D. All are unconstitutional and cost billions,Barry just has his foot on the gas and I know he’s intent on collapsing the dollar and our system so yeah I’m angry and many millions are angry as well.

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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:50pm
  I tell people all the time Slayer, if you ain’t mad you ain’t paying attention. I work with a very intelligent group and unfortunately intelligence does not equal common sense. The people of America are being played like a fiddle………..We need to go after the media. They are the messangers. They are the cover and they are deceiving the American people day in and day out.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:59pm
  Yes indeed the media has been helping him all along,back in Chicago when he was a community agitator,when he was state senator and of course now. They’re nothing more than his propagandists and a nation wide boycott of all media would be a good start. Hit them in the pocket book and they’ll change their tune.It won’t happen overnight but we have to start somewhere.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:53pm
  The collapse of the dollar can only come thru excessive debt issuance. If the debt limit is not raised, the dollar will immediately strengthen, and the cost of living will go down. Bernanke stands ready to buy any debt they(Congress) issue w/ counterfeit dollars, but notice how much he’s already bought. He’s the market.
  
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cbrown
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:53pm
I see President Christie in 2016. He will run as an outsider, who can get folks together and get things done. He will rail against the Republicans in the Congress too.

The base will smell the coffee, hold their nose and vote for Christie.

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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:00pm
  … and the democrat will be GUARANTEED VICTORY, by the LEFTIST republican party THROWING THE FIGHT with YET ANOTHER “BETTER EVIL”… THE VERY STRATEGY that ELECTED AND REELECTED King Soetoro.
  
  F the R’s!!!!!!!!!!
  
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- CatB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:01pm
  Not on your life. … not after his LOVE FEST with BHO …
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:02pm
  Christie is a progressive liberal, he’s proven that many times over. CBrownoser.
  
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- Excomunicatedmarine
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Sorry, he can’t keep his mouth shut (no pun intended) and think for a minute…..not the guy.
  
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- Southernsoul
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:06pm
  I, for one, have held my nose and voted republican for the last time with Romney. And I don’t want to hear the old, you’re just throwing your vote away. Voting republican just because has given us a government full of spaghetti-spined RINO’s. After Sandy and Cristie sucking up to obama, I would never vote for him either. Run a true conservative or I vote Libertarian/third party. I done with republicans.
  
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- TIMEBOMB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:22pm
  STELEX is right about Christie he’s a progressive and I should know because I made out with the whale so take it from me your magnificent ruler and stelex Christie is a progressive. Praise be to me BHO.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:35pm
  Obama??????? Where the hell is my phone. JAGOV
  
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- TIMEBOMB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:47pm
  Stelex You didn’t get your O phone yet? This is outrageous and totally unacceptable,I’ll get right on this,just ask that lady whats her name in NJ how I’m a man of my word she’ll tell ya!
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:51pm
  It really is you ;-)
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:54pm
  What party will Christie run under? You assume he has a shot to get the endorsement over Hillary.
  
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- Dkoonz
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:59pm
  Never vote for Crissy, fat ass kissing Obama wana be.
  
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- Wolf
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:59pm
  That ball of lard could run for shytelicker and I’d not vote for him. The best part of him was flushed down the toilet after his parents had sex.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:04pm
  I’m afraid CBROWN is right. They will surely nominate another moderate and someone from the NE to boot. They will figure Christy can pull independents
  
  Set aside the fact that Christie doesnt seem to be a big Constitutionalist….The republicans will be making another big mistake. Many republicans stayed home because they could not vote for a Mormon. Many republicans will also stay home because they cannot vote for an extremely fat man. Same result
  
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- TIMEBOMB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:11pm
  Stelex Yes it is I know I know your heart is racing and you’re sweating knowing that you’re in my presence.It’s okay I’ll talk you down,make sure someone is with you and you have a glass of water nearby. Are you seated? I don’t want you falling because that would break my cold black heart. In the near future many Americans will suffer mass starvation because of my collectivist policies.I’m not telling you this to frighten you,you’re one of my loyal subjects and I just want you to know whats going to happen. You can take great comfort in knowing your magnificent ruler and his beard and two illegitimate kids will be living in the lap of luxury while most of you are living a hellish existence.
  Stay strong and work for my collective. Praise be to me BHO.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:16pm
  Then its up to us to make a freakin lot of noise. I will not stand for another Rhino POS delivered by the media.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:19pm
  Time, a little to left please, thats it. Now look out the window.
  
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- TIMEBOMB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:27pm
  Stelex What is it is that Airforce 1 coming to pick me up? Whats that reflection? Nah can’t be that it’s impossible.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:33pm
  his fat ass will have a heart attack before the campaign is over and his health records will be longer than obamacare.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:00pm
  Christie’s not from Harvard, Yale or Princeton; therefore, his chances are low. I wouldn’t vote for him anyway.
  
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- Gregb
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:12pm
  no way on Christie… I would love to see President Allen West
  
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- Chromo200
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:52pm
  Christie has no chance .. He is not attractive to the Jersey Shore, Kardashian, Rap Music listeners, Honey Bo Bo followers. He may say the right things, most of the time, But he is not pretty.
  
  The Republican Party is now a minority party, and without the Tea Party we would still have Pelosi as the dictator.
  
  Not one penny to the GOP .. Why? because there is no difference between The Dems and the RINOs. Just that the RINOs dress better.
  
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barber2
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:52pm
The Chicago radical Democrats have a habit of stating things they wish to be true and then repeating them endlessly in their Lap Dog MSM . The repeating of said things is to make them become accepted by the public as true. They did it endlessly with the allegations of ” racist” Tea Party remarks ( that was after there was an actual Democrat, Jason Levin, who was caught advising Democrats to take racist signs into Tea Party rallies to smear the Tea Party ) This is all part of the Rules For Radicals tactics our Chicago radicals learned so well ! And they use the media to promote their propaganda 24 / 7. Without the propaganda tool of the media, our radicals would never be able to get away with what they get away with.

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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:05pm
  This type of propaganda has been going on for decades. My own family members fall for it. Now, we have the internet. The tea party owes it’s existence to the internet.
  
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Stelex
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:50pm
The more I observe, the more I read I begin to realize that Washington is a stage and they are all players……or I should say most of them. The end game is to remove the Constitution. The established in both party’s are behind this. The know that an outright attack on the Constitution would never fly, so they have plucked away at it for years……many years. They can smell the endgame, we see the masks coming off and know that a huge part of our government is not working for the good of America, or the American citizen. How can anyone look at Schummer, Jackson Lee, Maxy Waters, Wrangle, Boenhner, Christie, and so many others and say “they are out for me”. Good lord if I knew what I know now…………Washington is not America’s friend, Washington is ground zero for the infection taking over America. The media is where we should focus our efforts. The media is not as well insulated as Washington, but the media spreads the infection through out the rest of the country. Washington is the Flu, the media is the vascular system spreading the virus.

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- AnnMarie
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:58pm
  Five things Republicans need to do: #1. It is not Obamacare… It is ObamaTax. #2. They need to have a slogan” Save The Future of Our Children” #3. They need to have all debates and/or negotiations open and on C-Span for all to hear. No more behind the door sessions. #4. Stand up to the Democrats and forget the public opinion polls. #5. Post the debt clock everywhere when they are on TV and speak of it often on the radio and have a you tube made up to show the bills being presented and a bullet of each item on the bill with its cost. Lose the talking points….
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:08pm
  AnnMarie
  If you are a nurse living in southern NH it would not shock me. If not still like what you wrote.
  
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- right field
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:48am
  Stelex – you are exactly right about the MSM. The media is the problem. The American people have no way to know the truth. Change the narrative – change the world.
  
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:49pm
I also blame lack of leadership by both Reince Priebus and Boehner.

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Lord_Frostwind
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:48pm
Every talks about conflict like it is some kind of horrible thing, I don’t mind it. Especially in politics, it’s nice to have something that shakes the established order up every once in a while, it helps you grow a backbone, which is something the Republican Party desperately needs. Also, why does conflict always imply dysfunctional? Just because you fight and disagree doesn’t mean you hate each other and won’t stand together, otherwise there wouldn’t be a single functioning family on this planet.

We will experience loss, but we’re already doing that, so why not try to come out the other side of it stronger than we were?

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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:15pm
  The AP puts out these ‘propaganda pieces’ because the establishment fears a loss of power. They want to convince the tea party that it is impotent, that Rep. control in the House is meaningless. The fact is, the Reps hold all the cards and can shut the gov. down, and stop the debt growth.
  There is no conflict in dictatorships. That’s their goal.
  
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bigbear_awake
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:44pm
http://lastresistance.com/936/strategy-bury-obama-in-investigations/

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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:29pm
  My investigation shows he’s guilty of treason, murder, theft, molestation of childeren(ie born into ungodly taxes debt) and mass murder (ie..when the depression hits many will die)
  
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ZAP
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:41pm
For over 6,000 years man can not create a government that doesn’t collapse. Reason,greed….I have 100% confidence they will collapse this one.That’s all folks…..

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- neverending
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 11:28pm
  You are definitely not alone on that one!
  
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kdshell1
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:36pm
RINO Republican establishment resisting the its true conservative base.

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DadRocked
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:35pm
POLITICS as usual…

I’ve seen highs, valleys and lows with government over my lifetime…

Just POLITICS and POLITICIANS AS USUAL…
This is why we keep fighting to keep the high,valleys and lows are far separated as possible…

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OldSurfRat
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:35pm
And in walks the TEA PARTY.

I personally have had enough of the GOP (AKA The Boys Club).
I changed to (I) after the election because the writing was on the wall when we got Romney forced on us I knew the GOP was DOA.

No I am not a Pauly either.

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- Magyar
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:45pm
  I’m with you— enough of the “republicans” –they sacrificed their principles, sold us out and now they have NO support— They can go f%ck themselves…..
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:52pm
  Time for a new party, a common sense party. Unfortunately with half the population oblivious, its a long shot for any new party.
  
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- CatB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:56pm
  Yes .. it is sickening how they “compromise” values and principals at every turn .. enough … we are supposed to have TWO parties .. not left and further left.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 8:07pm
  Unfortunately, a viable third party will not arise until they see lots of people fed up with republican/democrat in the polls. But when 99% of voters choose either republican or democrat, there is no incentive for them to try to form a real 3rd party.
  
  Lots of us tried to convince more of you to vote 3rd party in 2012 – thereby paving the way for future liberty…..But we were called traiters and such just a couple months ago. I dont see things changing in the near future unless something major happens
  
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- For my Liberty!
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:28am
  I went Independent last July.
  
  Christy is a Piece of crap.
  McConnell is OUT in 2014 when his term is up…SICK of the RINO and I have sent him letters that I WILL tell ALL the people I KNOW here in Ky to get him out..
  
  Rubio?? HE IS a big question mark, but I am SICK of reports of him running for POTUS–HE is in the SAME boat as Ovomit–NOT a Natural Born Citizen–HIS parents were NOT citizens of the USA when he was born! They need to STOP it already!
  
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- RonPaulOrNoOne
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:25am
  Depends who you mean by saying Tea Party. You must be careful. The GOP will be putting some one up for nomination that claims he/she is Tea Party but don’t be fooled.
  
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whatthecrazy
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:33pm
I don’t put any faith in the Dem party and very little in the Repub party as they are all but a few lying to us to the point that we may be yet again fighting a Civil War?Now i uderstand why so many choose to be ignorant to the facts,it just feels better but is a deadly mistake.I don’t feel like being bothered by some pesky war either but as Todd Beam on flight 93 another victim of our Government said in his Heroic moment LET’S ROLL……………………..

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noslave
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:33pm
obamas smart a house divided falls??he plays both ends against the middle like a good communist,with the help of his lap-dog media and boot lickin senate mutts who yet to make a budget??

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jakartaman
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:32pm
The old guard had better get with the young conservative tea party boys or they will be gone in 2014.
Start being Conservatives and not Republicans – Stop taxing us – stop spending like dunken sailors. Try zero base budgeting – try term limits Try enacting a constitutional amendment for a required balanced budget. Try cutting the Federal Government by 3/4′s Mrs Palin did in Alaska – do we need a women??

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PHOTOMOM
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:31pm
Well, the moderate Republican leadership better remember what our party is supposed to stand for and embrace the ideas and momentum of the conservative elements from 2010 or they’re going to find themselves facing an actual Tea Party. We’re mad out here!

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- CatB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:01pm
  Yes … I am sick of fighting the Dems and the R’s .. the establishment in the R’s are just Dems light. We tried working with the R’s to effect change .. they smile and nod and then go right back and do the Dems bidding. ENOUGH .. Concentrate on changing the R’s .. in 2014 with CONSERVATIVES .. throw the establishment R’s OUT .. then we can FIGHT THE DEMS.
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:29pm
  CatB-
  Exactly, well said!
  
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- pooka_yc
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:21am
  And don’t give any money to the Ds or Rs. Only give to individual candidates. I’ve been doing that since 2008. I will not have my $$ given to RINOS.
  
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:28pm
Angry, because no one investigated voter fraud, but I don’t believe divided. Only that some RINO suck-ups like Christie have angered us.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:05pm
  RINO suck ups .. aka TRAITORS.
  
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- Brother Winston Smith
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:27pm
  Actually, there are no “RINO’s” but just republicans. ALL THE SAME. But FAKE-conservatives (who REJECTED Constitutionalists in 2012), will trick people into believing the LEFTIST republican party is still an option for conservatives, in order to SMASH any efforts to strengthen third parties.
  
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YourVoiceMatters
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:24pm
Perhaps ti was what was along for the ride in the bill that should be looked at instead of overlooking it! Rather then castigating Boehner for not rubber stamping the legislation…just saying ~ there is more than meets the eye when it comes to these bills that come flying over last minute from the Senate…perhaps one should look seriously at what the reekster sent over to get more clarity before shooting off both barrels …who and what was the real culprit here….dare we really look? It is often left out of the news these days apparently!

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neverending
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:21pm
No surprise at all. It started during the primaries and grew from anger to plain out bitterness. Did not take a rocket scientist to figure out that the party was so fractured by election time that there was no way for us to come out with a win. Sadly, the evangelicals and their minions hold the biggest share of the blame. Will someone explain to me (because the cowards won’t) why you have a 40 days of prayer and fasting with regards to the most important election in our history and then YOU STAY HOME!!!!! That is just beyond outrageous and now of course they will be the ones to pitch a fit about everything the commie is doing or going to do. Wait until they are forced to perform gay marriages – they deserve everything they have coming down the line – tragically we all have to pay the price.

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- limalima
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:12pm
  Well…Neverending, I do agree with you about the people who did not vote. God only knows what was going on in their minds. I think we may be on the same wave here, you can’t be all things to all people, so to youself be true. The Republican Party is desperate to make the Dems like them. I think they (Republicans) are reacting as people do, who are in an emotionally abusive relationship. If they say the right thing, do the right thing….then maybe the abuser will be nice. Unfortunately, the Republicans are selling us out. I’m from NJ. I was glad that the first vote for Sandy relief was defeated. I was disheartened that the republicans from NJ, NY , were upset that the vote went the way it did. Not one of them mentioned the “pork” that was in the bill. Ok, they passed a bill to help the people who have suffered. guess that is good. ( I know many who have lost so much). Anyway, I don’t think we should expect anything much from the house. I guess what I’m saying is we’re screwed.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:29pm
  It’s not the conservatives fault the RNC put up another hopelessly flawed big gov. candidate after they did the exact same thing 4 yrs ago. The media propagandists instantly said it was the conservatives fault that the Reps lost to BHO. There was no conservative at the top of the ticket!!!
  The 2 things that lost it was another big gov. candidate and voter fraud.
  I, personally, think the fraud alone did it, but we YT’s ain’t supposed to mention that! The media propagandists tell us it be racist.
  
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- neverending
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 10:37pm
  @DRS1969 – couldn’t disagree with you more. Blaming others still got us this commie in chief for four more years. The ones that gave it to him were the ones of course that voted for him but what put him over the top was the ones that stayed home or went to the polls and voted all but the presidency. If that is the rationale then all of you deserve just what you are going to get and so please enjoy it but guess you all are so proud that you proved your poiint. AND I thought the dems were the ignorant ones. Guess we learn something new everyday.
  
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- pooka_yc
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 12:37am
  @Neverending
  I too am disappointed in my evangelical brothers and sisters. I’m guessing the ones that were not praying for 40 days were also the ones not voting, but who knows. All of my friends were shocked when they saw the numbers on evangelical turnout. The non-voters should be ashamed. We are going to get another 4 years of h*ll on earth with BO in charge. Maybe that will bring them to their knees and to the voting booth.
  
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Sharon Rose
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:12pm
A house divided, will not stand.

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- booger71
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:34pm
  Neither will a Union, that is why we need to go back to the idea of 50 different independent States, that only need a weak federal government to handle National security (including border security) and foreign trade.
  
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- Newtowns-Third-Law
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:47pm
  Actually, a Government that could secure all our borders (including sea and air ports of entry) and fight two foreign wars at once and provide effective counter-terrorism by definition could not be weak. The Government was getting smaller up until 9-11. Since then, Federal and contractor jobs were added to answer national security demands, 50% of all growth has been in DHS Agencies, 15% at DoD and 10% in the Intelligence Community. So what should we cut, Booger?
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:01pm
  The Democrats have a definite agenda : to divide the conservatives. Witness the comments our Trolls make here. Obama Chicago radicals have done almost as much to divide America as the issue of slavery did. The Chicago crowd uses ” race” to accomplish the divide. That and the Marxist issue of class warfare in their ” the rich don’t pay their fair share” division. The Great Divider : Barack Obama.
  
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- PatriotCause
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 7:39pm
  Our reps need to know that this theme is more than some disgruntled fringe group. It is what they have shown us by their actions. They are more concerned with how they are viewed by their peers (Republicans or Democrats) than they are with doing their job. That’s why there is very little difference between either party. They are both irresponsible with our money and neither will cut spending. There is no member of the GOP that has the backbone to lead. Not one. There has not been any significant workable plan put forward by the GOP. They don’t want to rock the political boat. Go with the program and stay in office. Status Quo. Status quo is a larger deficit and higher taxes. Stop. Make a stand. Have a plan. Go to work.
  
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toiletclogga
Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:10pm
The AP is carrying more water for the Democrats than ever! Do you agree?

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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:17pm
  I concur!
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:24pm
  Have they ever stopped?
  
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- stopprintn
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 6:27pm
  Water? more like Kool-aid.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 5, 2013 at 9:35pm
  Exactly, like all of the lame stream media, they are part of the ‘bureau of propaganda’.
  
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