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Nancy Pelosi: Obama Should ‘Just Go Do It’ and Use the 14th Amendment to Raise the Debt Ceiling

Jan. 6, 2013 2:48pm Madeleine Morgenstern

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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Sunday said President Barack Obama should avoid a battle with Congress and just use the Constitution to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling.

The California Democrat told CBS’ “Face the Nation” that if she were president, she would invoke the 14th Amendment and raise the limit on her own. The amendment states that “the validity of the public debt … shall not be questioned,” which supporters say enables the president to raise the debt ceiling without input from Congress in order to ensure payments to bondholders are met.

“We always passed the debt ceiling when President Bush was president, as he was incurring these massive debts, and the Republicans weren’t saying ‘boo’ at the time,” Pelosi said of the expected February standoff. “If I were president, I would use the 14th Amendment, which says that the debt of the United States will always be paid.”

She continued, “I would just go do it. But the Congress has incurred much of this debt. And so what are you saying, we incurred it but we’re not going to pay it? If you want to say, ‘We are not going to do it so much in the future,’ well that’s another thing. But you can’t say, ‘I’m not paying my past debts.’”

The White House in December ruled out invoking the 14th Amendment to solve the debt-ceiling crisis, saying such an approach was off the table.

“This administration does not believe that the 14th Amendment gives the president the power to ignore the debt ceiling — period,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said.

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dadsrootbeer
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:22pm
The C**T said “We always passed the debt ceiling when President Bush was president, as he was incurring these massive debts, and the Republicans weren’t saying ‘boo’ at the time,”. Um, incurring these massive debts? Of Bush, not Obammy? The X-leader of the house saying the president should just go around Congress. The country is going to suffer for more than a decade from these RICH radical progressives and their leftist ideology and total disregard for the country. Thanks again to Califreekonia for keeping this thing in power. Couldn’t just destroy your home state of California but just had to unleash the insanity on the rest of the country.

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- Trigus
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:35pm
  I implore all Americans to petition Barry to give the State known as “California” to the Mexican Government as a sign of goodwill. Barry ad his band of 40 thieves should do this to make amends for the “Fast and Furious” and vow to never arm Mexican Drug Cartels again.
  
  I also, implore all Californians to cut off all financial support for: Armed Security, Travel, and Lodging for Pelosi.
  
  I place economy among the first and most important virtues, and public debt as the greatest of dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. If we run into such debts, we must be taxed in our meat and drink, in our necessities and in our comforts, in our labor and in our amusements. If we can prevent the government from wasting the labor of the people, under the pretense of caring for them, they will be happy.
  
  “The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale.”
  - Thomas Jefferson
  
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- subic
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:35pm
  One word for Peelosi and her likeminded traitors. PRISON
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:37pm
  It’s WAY pass do for a tax revolt. Stop feeding them. Stand up to them please people. Stop this crapp.Just what he!! is wrong with everyone?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:42pm
  U.S. Constitution
  
  14TH AMENDMENT
  
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  AMENDMENT XIV
  
  SECTION 1.
  
  All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
  
  SECTION 2.
  
  Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:43pm
  SECTION 3.
  
  No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
  
  SECTION 4.
  
  The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
  
  SECTION 5.
  
  The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
  
  Am I missing something here?
  
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- cemerius
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:46pm
  It is ALL bout their plan folks…no need to get angry or surprised they have been planning this for a century! I implore ALL of you to watch this video, even though it is 1.5 hours long it condenses every thing that is going on and supports Glenn’s ideas to a T!
  
  http://vimeo.com/52009124
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:01pm
  Hi RJJ,
  
  Nope, that about covers it.
  
  And thanks for posting that. I’ll have to add “14″ to my Bill search word list for illegal changes to it.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:01pm
  Mrs. Pelosi,
  
  It appears you’ve raised the ceiling on your hypocrisy limit also. We The People are rapidly approaching critical mass with the currency-destroying, debt-addicted, power-mad behavior of you and your ilk.
  
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- oneshiner
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:25pm
  Dear Lord, will nothing stop this repulsive woman? Bad enough Cali is going bankrupt, she wants the rest of the nation to follow her down the blow hole.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:39pm
  Thanks RJ. The relevant part of course is the statement that, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned.” That’s plenty clear don’t you think?
  
  The Republican strategy is straightforward. The are saying that if they don’t get what they want, and can’t achieve through the normal legislative process, they are going to force the United States to default on it’s debt. That of course would have a terrible effect on the US, every citizen in this country, and probably the world economy. In other words, they’re saying “do what I want or everybody gets it.” That’s known as blackmail.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:39pm
  Pelosi needs to be put down exactly as one would put down an old animal.
  
  FYI Nancy, the 2nd Amendment also says “Shall NOT be infringed” but we all know you practice
  selective fact presentation and ignore what is inconvenient to your agenda.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:18pm
  @Trigus
  
  Bet yet lets give Texas back to Mexico.
  
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- MetalPatriot
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:32pm
  Sendthemeteors…
  
  The operative part that makes the entre ammendment workable is section 5, “The CONGRESS shall have power to enforce…”
  
  Congress (both houses) have the power to enforce this, NOT the president. It’s a mistake to take bits and pieces to create something that was never intended.
  
  We must also remember these ammendments (13, 14, 15) were created at the end of the Civil War. The 14th was meant to punish the South and its Northern supporters, not to surrepticiously use to promote a financial crisis and a debilitating agenda.
  
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- NHwinter
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:35pm
  to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.
  
  Was our government giving aid to the enemies by selling them arms? What was the Benghazi scandal all about? We haven’t found out yet, have we? Did we have a Supreme Court Justice tell a foreign country not to use our Constitution as an example for theirs? Are they guilty of treason?
  
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- cessna152
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:48pm
  Someone please help me. I thought congress held the purse strings and simply can start cutting spending. Why not use that as leverage and if the progressives give them a hard time they just start cutting stuff? Explain to me please
  
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:50pm
  .
  This is where a Big Stick would come into play…..
  
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- JQuentinEvermann
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:01pm
  @Enicom – The U.S. didn’t acquire Texas from Mexico. We fought and gained our freedom from an oppressive Mexican government. Then we signed on to join the U.S. A lot of us are questioning that decision now, but get your facts straight: Texas was a sovereign nation, not a territory of the sandbar to the south.
  
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- hypnos
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:03pm
  She doesn’t read bills or the constitution. Take your ancient a&$ back to SF.
  
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- turkey13
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:11pm
  I don’t know why Nancy doesn’t give the 14th ammendment the finger and raise it to $ 24 Trillion and that will get us covered for the next 5 years.As we go to a barter system, the next president if he is smart will clear the deck. The USA is the biggest landowner in the country. The IRS takes farms all the time because the kids can’t pay taxes when parents die. I read that Uncle owns 90% of Utah. We should be able to swap that to China for what we owe. They can have their own country right in the middle of the country. I bet some country would pay a Trillion for The Grand Canyon. We should just sell all the National Parks for 100% gold bullion. China would probably also buy Death Valley.
  
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- Trenaway
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:41pm
  I guess this dumb idiot forgot about section five of the amendment which states that ONLY congress can. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
  
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- love the kids
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:51pm
  Hey. Dumb A_ _ Pelosi. “the validity of the public debt … shall not be questioned,” I don’t think anyone is questioning the validity of it, just some people with more than 2 brain cells don’t think borrowing to pay off the debt is a smart thing to do. I would hate to see your check book, it’s probably off by 16 trillion.
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:52pm
  There was a time that a phrase such as “The C**T said…” may have put me out a bit, but I am starting the new year by embracing my inner “racist,homophobe.bigot,sexist,Islamophobe,smallophobe,bigophobe,birthering, denyering…” tendencies.
  
  Lots O luck in the new year to any PROGRESSIVE that exists. I am done playing PC.
  
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- love the kids
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:56pm
  “We’ll have to by-pass the constution first to find out what was in it”
  
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- 13a
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:56pm
  @Turkey13, I enjoy the BLM land, the National parks in Utah, and all of the national parks throughout the United States. Exchanging this national treasures to China or anyone we owe money to as a credit against our debt is not an option. Even giving California to Mexico is not an option. This kind of thinking is too extreme, unrealistic, and Anti-American. Maybe you don’t care about our national parks but millions of Americans like me do care!!!
  
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- Cymry
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 7:21pm
  the 14th amendment was to figure out a way to include the former slaves as citizens and to punish the south.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 7:23pm
  SENDTHEMETEORS, Geez, I did catch that phrase. Have had several Constitutional law classes, and never noticed nor had some professor tell me anything along the lines of what Pelosi is claiming. As a mater of fact, if you were taught differently other than blindly following the left, please fill me in within a coherent manner. I would really love to read it.
  
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- randy
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 7:45pm
  When the 2nd American revolutionary war starts, and I’m sure it will…..I sure hope I have the chance to meet ENCINOM and his friends. If only briefly.
  
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- A.D.Hominem
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 7:45pm
  @encinom aka moron
  
  No, no, let’s give “Mexico” back to the Maya, no, no the Aztecs, no, no, the Olmecs, no, no, the Toltecs, no, no … learn some anthropology, moron! After that, take a class on the new wunderkind theory of “Critical Thinking”. Don’t get spastic, it’s really not that critical.
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:07pm
  Is she trying to work herself out of a job. If we wanted a frickin’ king, we would have kept the British.
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:08pm
  What WOULD be the limit???!!!!
  
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- Daddy Hawg
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:24pm
  @ SENDTHEMETEORS, why don’t we just cut that are living off the government dole and use that money to pay our debts? Or just live within the budget; oh I am sorry, i forgot that the current senate has not had a budget since 2009 when this regime took office!
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:36pm
  Why am I not surprised that another of these tools thinks that the best way to get out of debt is to go deeper into debt? Would one of them please take a class on balancing a household budget? Maybe if they did they’d learn how stupid they all are to think we, who actually can think about more than our Thatguyphones, don’t buy their garbage.
  
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- Inlightofthings
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 8:52pm
  RJ:
  Thanks for posting. Meteors does a nice job of demonstrating why the left chooses to simply disregard the constitution; it’s just easier to ignore than to learn, interpret and adhere.
  
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- dmerwin
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 9:07pm
  SendTheMeteors
  Wouldn’t the prudent and responsible thing to do be try to live WITHIN our means? Pelosi’s party and I’m guessing yours as well has not passed a budget in 4 years. That is irresponsible. IF you were a business owner and your employees decided to work less than half a year for full pay and did not perform the most basic function of their job would you continue to employ them?
  
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- rickc34
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 9:11pm
  We cannot afford the debt we are in and she just wants to have no limit…what an idiot.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 10:37pm
  For my own part, I am not so well satisfied of the goodness of this thing. I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. — I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. In my youth I travelled much, and I observed in different countries, that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.
  On the Price of Corn, and Management of the Poor
  by BENJAMIN FRANKLIN posted on NOVEMBER 29, 1766
  
  As our president bears no resemblance to a king so we shall see the Senate has no similitude to nobles. First, not being hereditary, their collective knowledge, wisdom, and virtue are not precarious. For by these qualities alone are they to obtain their offices, and they will have none of the peculiar qualities and vices of those men who possess power merely because their father held it before them.
  
  Tench Coxe, An American Citizen, No.2, September 28, 1787
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 10:56pm
  The 14th amendment doesn’t confer any powers on the president, it states the congress has the power to enforce the payment of the debt.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:13pm
  Hey RJ, so you have “had several Constitutional law classes…” I’d never have guess that given that you cut and pasted the entire amendment, 95% of which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread and did not point out the relevant parts of the Amendment. Why didn’t you just post the entire Constitution to prove your point, whatever it is.
  
  Okay, I won’t question that you’ve “had several Constitutional law classes,” although I doubt those classes were Constitutional Law classes from a law school. Maybe from an AM radio host’s pretend college. Why do I question that? Because your post was 95% irrelevant, and you made no attempt to argue your point, whatever it is.
  
  You seem to think it’s self evident that “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned” means that if the House doesn’t want to pay for legislation already passed by Congress doesn’t have to be paid. That’s not self evident to me. The Constitution says we don’t have to pay debts we’ve already incurred?
  
  Please explain to me why the 14th Amendment doesn’t actually mean that “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned.” Explain how that means that the House refuse to pay our debts?
- Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:23pm
  “Nancy Pelosi: Obama Should ‘Just Go Do It’ and Use the 14th Amendment to Raise the Debt Ceiling”
  
  Pelosi AND the Republicans (and the Democrats, which goes without saying) are trying to fool the American people into believing THEY rule America. They have been Photoshop’ing EVERYTHING to make you believe these lies!
  NOW, see the evidence! They have Photoshop’ed to trick you into believing there is such a thing as … “Washington DC”!
  http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8004/democraticfakeforreal.jpg
  
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- Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:40pm
  Oh, and don’t forget …
  http://freieszene.org/images/smilies/dfttroll.gif
  
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- Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:45pm
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:14am
  @SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 11:13pm
  Hey RJ, so you have “had several Constitutional law classes…” I’d never have guess that given that you cut and pasted the entire amendment, 95% of which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread and did not point out the relevant parts of the Amendment. Why didn’t you just post the entire Constitution to prove your point, whatever it is.
  
  Okay, I won’t question that you’ve “had several Constitutional law classes,” although I doubt those classes were Constitutional Law classes from a law school. Maybe from an AM radio host’s pretend college. Why do I question that? Because your post was 95% irrelevant, and you made no attempt to argue your point, whatever it is.
  
  You seem to think it’s self evident that “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned” means that if the House doesn’t want to pay for legislation already passed by Congress doesn’t have to be paid. That’s not self evident to me. The Constitution says we don’t have to pay debts we’ve already incurred?
  
  Please explain to me why the 14th Amendment doesn’t actually mean that “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned.” Explain how that means that the House refuse to pay our debts?
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  I prefer you explain to me why you think it is acceptable that we have the debt that we have?
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:18am
  @SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:39pm
  Thanks RJ. The relevant part of course is the statement that, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned.” That’s plenty clear don’t you think?
  
  The Republican strategy is straightforward. The are saying that if they don’t get what they want, and can’t achieve through the normal legislative process, they are going to force the United States to default on it’s debt. That of course would have a terrible effect on the US, every citizen in this country, and probably the world economy. In other words, they’re saying “do what I want or everybody gets it.” That’s known as blackmail
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  So your point is that no one should question the Democrats. You appear to accept that debt is acceptable and spending is just a formality. From your comments it is okay for our Government to continue spending as if there are no controls. Just keep spending and if it gets too high then find a tax that will correct the problem. You are a genius.
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:22am
  @SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:39pm
  Thanks RJ. The relevant part of course is the statement that, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, …, shall not be questioned.” That’s plenty clear don’t you think?
  
  The Republican strategy is straightforward. The are saying that if they don’t get what they want, and can’t achieve through the normal legislative process, they are going to force the United States to default on it’s debt. That of course would have a terrible effect on the US, every citizen in this country, and probably the world economy. In other words, they’re saying “do what I want or everybody gets it.” That’s known as blackmail.
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  Did you over look that fact that Barney Frank and Sen. Dodd ignored the warnings of the Bush Administration about the perils of Fanny Mae. Would you even consider the fact that after dire warnings that the Dem. Party which had control of both houses for the last 2 years of the Bush Administration kept pushing on that there was no problem and then the housing market crashed and then the banking industry crashed.
  
  I say to you that the liberals are the reason it failed. What say you?
  
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- JustMeHere_01
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:27am
  @encinom
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:18pm
  @Trigus
  
  Bet yet lets give Texas back to Mexico.
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  I will admit that I have never seen one of your comments that made sense but you took it one step further on this one.
  
  You appear to be coherent. Are you on drugs or did you forget to take your medication. I have to be honest because this comment of yours worries me about you well being.
  
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- Marine 1
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 2:24am
  Pelosi and Feinstein both need to be in straight jackets confined to a “nut house” because they are both OUT OF THEIR FREAKING MINDS.
  
  In fact, Pelosi always looks like she is on some combination of drug and some of the “special wine” from her vineyard. Whoa! Yikes!
  
  Pelosi is “Leatherface” in 3D! I knew I had seen her somewhere before.
  
  Pass the popcorn and lets all keep our powder dry.
  
  Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Sputter Sputter Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  
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- edschneid
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 5:14am
  Strange how they use the CONSTITUTION when its to their benefit. We need to remind them of this when it comes to new gun laws they will try to pass.What a dumb b###
  
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- retiredfire
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 7:54am
  SEND:
  Why did you use ellipses where the relevant part of that clause was?
  “The validity of the public debt of the United States, AUTHORIZED BY LAW,…..shall not be questioned”
  The debt must be authorized by law and that law must be passed by the legislative branch before the President can give a thumbs-up or thumbs-down – that is his only role in law-making.
  Criticizing that the entire amendment was posted is typical misdirection of the left, when they have no good argument.
  
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- Thatsitivehadenough
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 8:37am
  Nazi Pelosi should just go to the edge of a NYC subway at rush hour and see how many people try to push her off. That would be so fun to watch!
  
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- dcatkin
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 8:52am
  Yes Pelosi, he should, and then we impeach the idiot. Oh please give a us a reason, yes Obama take it upon yourself to cause the country to suffer another credit downgrade.
  
  There is nothing in any amendment that gives to the right to do as you please. So please do it we will see the end of your trem as president.
  
  Although another turd will most likely take your place, at lease we get reid of the great destroyer, and his filthy disgusting laws.
  
  Free Our Country
  
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- ltb
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:01am
  Power hungry pigs like Nancy Pelosi are why our founding fathers gave us the 2nd Amendment.
  
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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:06am
  I can’t wait to here the words ” Pelosi passed on to Hell today” !
  
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- georgette
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:06pm
  Seems like some people, Politicians in particular, use their endeavors to ignore the First Law of the Universe:::
  whatever force you apply, there will be an equal and opposite resistance and reaction to that force.
  
  ..
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 4:53pm
  JustMe asks, “I prefer you explain to me why you think it is acceptable that we have the debt that we have?” Why don’t you ask Dick Cheney, who once said, “Reagan proved that deficits don’t matter.” Reagan was mostly okay with a large and increasing deficit (although he did raise taxes a number of times to try to address that issue). Bush certainly was okay with big deficit increases. Why don’t you ask those guys?
  
  I think Obama said it best, “Unfortunately, Congress consistently brings the government to the edge of default before facing its responsibility. This brinkmanship threatens the holders of government bonds and those who rely on Social Security and veterans benefits. Interest markets would skyrocket. Instability would occur in financial markets and the federal deficit would soar.”
  
  Oh wait, Reagan said that. The debt limit under Reagan was raised, as you know 18 times, and eight times under Bush.
  
  You know what caused the deficit right? 1) The Bush tax cuts, 2), the economic collapse and 3) Bush’s two wars. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/files/2012/08/Debt-graph-CBPP.jpeg
  
  And what do Republicans want? 1) Keep the Bush tax cuts 2) crash the economy again by defaulting on loans the US has already taken out 3) Keep fighting wars or start a new one with Iran and raise military spending even more.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 5:40pm
  Economy was crashed not because of 2 wars (theatres of war really) or the tax cuts. It was crashed by the housing bubble.
  
  Of course Al Qaeda training 20,000 people in Afghanistan does not concern some dolts. I mean what could they do? Take over Pakistan LULZ?
  
  Reagan entered into a deal with Tip O’Neil. Like a good (read lying) Democrat, Tip never cut any spending. Thus Reagan was forced to raise taxes.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 9:19pm
  dadsrootbeer.. if you want your point taken seriously try not to use the C word in the first sentence… secondly I would agree with Pelosi.. but watching the GOP implode yet again over the debt ceiling will be too fun to watch!
  
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FlagWavingPatriot
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:21pm
Pelosi and her ilk are a cancer upon this nation. Radical. Insane. Anti-American.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:10pm
  They won’t be happy until they have total control .. . if I have anything to say about it they will NEVER be happy ;-)
  
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- DRSAVAGE24
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:06am
  Republicans should stare him down on this, then, challenge him to actually raise the debt ceiling by executive order and see how Americans feel about it. Last time this debt ceiling fiasco played out, a big percentage of the country was against raising it. Leave it to the Republicans to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They capitulated as they usually do. What they need is some courage to refuse to raise the debt ceiling and cut spending down to a balanced budget, force Barry to make cuts. It’s the responsible thing to do. And for Barry to say that he won’t compromise on paying our bills, you’re not paying your bills when you use your Visa to pay your Master Card. Any thinking human being knows that you don’t go further into debt to pay your bills.
  
  They all disgust me. Obama, Pelosi, Boehner, McConnell, et al. None of them give a damn about the country, only their hold on political power.
  
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- jmeister8
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:14am
  They are ecstatic and you have nothing to say about it, so stop your whining. The main problem isnt the debt ceiling or the economy or immigration or Iran or Russia or too much guns. The main problem is invisible, the main problem is not much talked about and when it is it is just mentioned as an impedament and not the cancer to this nation that it is. This past November without a real hint of resistance an army marched into your country and took it over. It was against the will of the people but they did it with a slight of hand. OUR COUNTRY WAS STOLEN FROM US!!! They stole your vote and made it theirs. We have no rights anymore, we just don’t know it yet. Until you address this 800 pound gorilla in the room 2014 will see the last vestages of our republic swept away. And what is being said about this? crickets chirping… nothing. Your country has been invaded and conquered and all we do is watch sports and dumb tv shows. No wonder why they want to take our guns away fast, they are aftaid that americans will wake up. Never gonna happen. We will probably dissarm first. So get used to Nancy Palosi verbaly defacating on all of us, there will be plenty more of it in Obamas third and forth term.
  
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- dcatkin
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 9:08am
  @DRSAVAGE24 The problem is that they don’t give a crap what you, I, or nay American thanks about the things that they do. Beacause they figure that they are that smart ones, and the people need to be told what to do.
  
  We all know that they are far from being the smart ones, and we all know that the longer things stay the was that they are, the more we lose.
  
  So let them do as they plase, and we can impeach the lot of them, and inpose some term limits on them to make them see the error of their ways.
  
  Free Our Country
  
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UH60L13
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:20pm
Pelosi is an Idiot!! The 14th Amendment Section 4; says “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.” but what Pelosi and other idiots don’t understand about the 14th Amendment Section 4. It doesn’t say that WE HAVE TO TAX MORE AND RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT TO PAY OUR DEBT, we can CUT SPENDING AND DELETE UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROGRAMS TO PAY OUR DEBT RATHER THAN RAISE DEBT LIMITS!! Plus Article I, Section 8; “The Congress shall have Power To borrow Money on the credit of the United States.” So there isn’t any Power given to the President to raise the Debt Limit on his own!!

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- DZ-015
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:04pm
  UH60L13: You are correct, madam or sir. Geezie Pelosi is puffing some strange ‘shrooms to think the 14th Amendment allows the One to raise the debt limit unilaterally. Indeed, the whole idea of incurring debt beyond the limit could well be construed as a “high crime and misdemeanor” worthy of impeachment. The ‘crats know this, because they have been angling to remove the limit altogether or give the President the authority to exceed it as is seen fit. This must not be allowed to happen!
  
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Beckster2
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:19pm
Ms. Pelosi is what a Marxist Dictator looks like…er…ah…Ms. Pelosi is what a Democratic Dictator looks like. ah…um…a….maybe Ms. Pelosi is what Democracy looks like….all of which is better than …ah….what Ms. Pelosi actually looks like.

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- afishfarted
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:30pm
  Clark Howard said it best last week. Republican congressman have small balls. Someone in the party who has standing needs to go on national tv and just say
  “Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the ruling democrat party elite are socialist marxists hell bent on destroying the greatest nation in the history of the world. Will will no longer compromise. Our nation, our security, our future are at stake and we will not sit idly by and let it happen”.
  But like Clark said–small balls
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:49pm
  FISH: Agree. Time to call a Marxist a Marxist…with cleverness, of course.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:59pm
  Atleast Clark gave them ball’s it’s more than i would give them.
  
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- engineerairborne
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:33pm
  It would make for great sound clips on fox, however the mass media engine would run them over until they could no longer be effective.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:09pm
  @AFISHFARTED
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:30pm
  Clark Howard said it best last week. Republican congressman have small balls. Someone in the party who has standing needs to go on national tv and just say
  “Obama, Reid, Pelosi and the rest of the ruling democrat party elite are socialist marxists hell bent on destroying the greatest nation in the history of the world.
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  Actually there has been ONE lone congressman who dared to get up in public and call these
  psychotic bastards out for exactly what they are ——–
  Lt Col Allen West
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-can-call-it-communism-progressivism-socialism-marxism-or-statism-rep-west-defends-his-80-communists-in-the-house-claim/
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:49pm
  ENGINEER: I remember the video clip of Bill Ayers at an OWS saying he gets up each morning dedicated to doing what he can to end capitalism! That would be a good start to expose the Chicago radicals…
  
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Joe_The_Patriot
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:18pm
These socialist communist marxists on capital hill are trying to create a Tyrant ruler and make us all the subjects of their laws… THEY WORK FOR US !!! and I think it’s time we remind these traitors as such!!!!

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tzion
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:15pm
Um, how does saying that we won’t borrow anymore money translate to us saying we aren’t paying our debts?

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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:30pm
  REad the 14th Amendment in its entirety. It was passed to deal with the Civil War debt incurred by the Southern States and being refused by the Northern States after the War Between the States. And those from those Northern States refusing to want to pay those debts to countries and companies not on our shores. It had nothing to do with a debt ceiling or ability to pay. We can pay our bills but it will mean doing what we have told others to do through the IMF, reduce/cut borrowing!
  
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Rob
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:09pm
We really are a pretty tolorant group if evil people like Pelosi are still around.

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- lel2007
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:14pm
  She’s San Fransisco’s champion. Until she’s convicted of something she’ll remain in office.
  
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Impenitent
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:09pm
Boehner should just do it and stop all government spending entirely

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- CatB
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:16pm
  I agree … and start with DEFUNDING ObamaTAX!
  
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- fixer
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:47pm
  I think the American people should “just do it” and drag these liberal SOB’s into the street and hang the whole bunch of them from the nearest streetlamp. Commie bastards.
  
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fastgen1
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:09pm
I watched all of that, it was one lie after another out of her mouth, is she trying to one up bammy. It actually made me sick to watch, that women has no shame, I wonder if she realizes that a large number of people in this country pray for her to get breast cancer in her plastic phony boobs. Phony boobs, phony, women. These people care not for the people who trusted them. she has already been found out on her ability to squeeze money illegally for her and her husband….My God what has happened to this country….

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Cymry
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:08pm
as a birther there is a black humor in watching those of you who marginalized us. i don’t know what you expected to accomplish by ignoring barry’s citizenship “problem”? if barry was willing to run as an ineligible candidate for president, did you really think that would be it as far as what he’d try to get away with? you give a tyrannt an inch and he will use you as slave labor to build his road a mile.

how’s that peace through appeasement thing working out for ya?

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OlefromMN
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:06pm
I don’t see how the 14th allows him to spend willy nilly. The House could simply refuse to alot funds for his pet projects and shut him down. I also say it is arguable that the “progressive” tax system is in violation of the equal protection clause. If he wants a Constitutional fight, let’s give it to him.

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paulhawk
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:06pm
Her warped, twisted mind is still playing tricks on her. We are talking about increasing the debt limit, not whether or not we pay our past debt. Still, Left leaning readers will believe her BS.

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- Mess23
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:35pm
  She knows, she is just getting the low information voters agitated.
  
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endthemindlessspending
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:05pm
Yea Nancy the Democrat Congress and Senate racked up that debt from 2007 on, but that doesn’t seem to register in your peabrain.

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kickagrandma
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:00pm
I have a notion of what both nancypelosi and barrack INSANE obama should do, but being that today is THE LORD’s DAY, I am no going to write it here.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:10pm
  It is hard to hold one’s tongue. I know.
  
  But we can shine the light of truth on her immoral, unfair doings. Maybe a few more of her constituents will get upset & not vote for her next time around. Maybe they will ask a for a recall election..
  
  “Confronting Pelosi on insider trading”
  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-57323518-10391709/confronting-pelosi-on-insider-trading/
  
  “Democrat Nancy Pelosi was put in the spotlight by a ’60 Minutes’ report on insider trading by Congress. What do Nancy Pelosi’s purchases of Visa stock show?”
  http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2011/1115/Did-Nancy-Pelosi-profit-from-Visa-stock-purchases
  
  “’60 Minutes’ Uncovers Pelosi’s Insider Stock Trades”
  http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/pelosi-stock-insider-60minutes/2011/11/13/id/417848
  
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- AzThunder
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:03pm
  @kickagrandma
  
  All I can say is obama and the rest of his crooks better enjoy their luxuries now in this short life, Because when they are going to spend eternity in H e l l — it will be far worse they they can ever imagine…!
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:17pm
  WALKABOUT
  You ARE talking about San Francisco, you know. The place is busting at the seams with marxists and homosexuals.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:00pm
First of all Nancy Pelosi has just demonstrated how unamerican she is, telling the President to use a wrongful interpretation of the 14th Amendment to usurp more authority that is not his.

I expect Obama will do this anyhow, as the groundwork was prepared in the last debt-ceiling battle around the 14th amendment. Now that Pelosi and the other Communists are beginning to say so, they seek to make it reality and thus sunder the Constitution once and for all.

We have hit the final crossroad where we will either see the pushing back against the madness of Obama, or the rise of our first national dictator.

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- gyro
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:19pm
  quote *or the rise of our first national dictator*
  
  Nancy Pelosi isnt smart enough to do this on sunday tv
  So who is ?
  who sends people out on sundays to lie ?
  who is behind obama ?
  how do you take over a country ?
  Snowleopard you are so close to the truth all the time
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 5:31pm
  GYRO: Who is behind Media Matters ? The Center For American Progress ? OWS ? SEIU ? to name but a few…
  
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CaptChris
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:59pm
Well guess what, some people learn by their mistakes, and the repubs are leaning the hard way. But, that does not give the President nor the congress the ultimate right to follow down the same path. Someone, somewhere show a little courage! If you can ask a soldier to die for his country, you can die trying to do the right thing for the country and the citizens who you are responsilbe too. You want more cash, TAX THE POT FARMERS in your state

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PAUL GULLO
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:59pm
How’s the water Ms. Pelosi

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Walkabout
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:58pm
“House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi on Sunday said President Barack Obama should avoid a battle with Congress and just use the Constitution to unilaterally raise the debt ceiling.”

And if he did that all the credit rating agencies would rate T bills as Junk by December 31, 2103.

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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:01pm
  Which, given his drive to reduce the nation to a third-rate nation, and his saying ‘it is off the table’ is more than enough reason to suspect he will do just that. He cares nothing save for his dreams of power and revenge on the Republic.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:13pm
  If obama invokes the 14th Amendment illicitly, he will own the debt downgrade, the debt, the deficit & everything else.
  
  WW2 was the best thing that ever happened to FDR. At that time Japan & Germany really could not harm us all that much.
  
  We get into war now, civilians will feel the heat & sometimes the lack of heat from no energy supplies.
  
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- desertspeaks
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:19pm
  Ok nazi pelosi, where in the constitution is social security? medicaid? medicare? how about the incorporation known as the act of 1871 where the united states became a corporation? how about executive orders, where are those in the constitution? how about the fbi, cia, nsa or the TSA! where are those in the constitution?
  Show me where,IN THE CONSTITUTION, outside of ten square miles, military bases, federal buildings, federal enclaves,.. the UNITED STATES has the authority to enforce/force any of this bs??
  
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jcldwl
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:57pm
These people are worshipers of Satan and they know it.

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- fastgen1
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:12pm
  There are going to be a lot of people burning in the fires of hell. The only problem is that the rest of us are too good to gloat..Pelosi your going to love the fires of the hell you don’t believe in….
  
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The Scarecrow
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:57pm
And we need to use the 2nd amendment to keep our guns. Right to bear arms shall not be infringed!

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Minnaloushe
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:56pm
There is no electoral solution to tyrants.

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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:55pm
Says the woman who would gladly support a dictatorship. Again, she is proof they should ban botox injections, it causes brain damage.

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- stopprintn
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:08pm
  yep and here is proof.
  
  http://dancingczars.wordpress.com/seriously-twisted-art/naners/
  
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colascguy
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:54pm
Well I would argue the 14th amendment should force the passage of a balanced budget and some responsible spending. Our debt will destroy the US hence she and and Obama are essentially ignoring the 14th A.

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WildschweinJager
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:52pm
Nancy and her “Kung Fu” hands.

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- barber2
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:41pm
  This is outrageous. It is obvious that the radical Democrats are going to keep pushing until someone pushes back. Hopefully, the laws of the land will be used before someone feels the need to employ the law of the West.
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 4:50pm
  @BARBER2
  
  Why are all of the bad ideas coming out of the failing state of Cailfornia via Feinstein and Pelosi?
  
  Can’t America see that they are killing their own state with their BS ideology?
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 6:50pm
  WILD: Is the crazy thinking all due to ” medical ” ( wink, wink ) marijuana ?
  
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WildschweinJager
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 2:51pm
Unbridled hubris.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:06pm
  When you can make trades like turning in $44 a share into $64 a share in 2 days with 5,000 shares, you believe you can run the United States. That is $100,000 before taxes & $85,000 after capital gains taxes are taken out.
  
  A higher capital gains tax, say 20%, does not hurt an inside trader. They just make more or larger “sure thing” insider trades.
  
  If insider trading gets too hot because the hoi poloi are up in arms, then the avaricious, greedy, grasping political princess Pelosi merely speaks before a union or other body & collects $100,000 to $200,000 in speaking fees.
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 6, 2013 at 3:24pm
  @Walk
  
  Sorry, brother. All I can do is sit here in amazement at the BS we tolerate and endue. Fight the good fight. That is how we made this country. It is faltering now. God help us.
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on January 7, 2013 at 4:24am
  Walkabout: as old as she is she cant serve all the time in prison. What say we take everything she owns, and feed the pelosis to the sharks.
  
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