Horrific Details Revealed at Hearing for Colo. Theater Shooter: ‘I Didn’t Want Anyone Else to Die’

This courtroom sketch shows James Holmes being escorted by a deputy as he arrives at preliminary hearing in district court in Centennial, Colo., on Monday, Jan. 7, 2013. Investigators say Holmes opened fire during the midnight showing of the latest Batman movie on July 20, killing 12 people and wounding dozens. Credit: AP
CENTENNIAL, Colo. (AP) — The officers struggled to hold back the tears as they recalled the Colorado theater shooting: discovering a 6-year-old girl without a pulse, trying to keep a wounded man from jumping out of a moving police car to go back for his 7-year-old daughter, screaming at a gunshot victim not to die.
“After I saw what I saw in the theater – horrific – I didn’t want anyone else to die,” said Officer Justin Grizzle, who ferried the wounded to the hospital.
A bearded, disheveled James Holmes, the man accused of going on the deadly rampage, didn’t appear to show any emotion as Grizzle and the other officers testified Monday in a packed courtroom as survivors and families of those who died watched quietly. At one point, a woman buried her head in her hands when an officer recalled finding the 6-year-old girl.
“He’s heartless. He really is. He has no emotion. He has no feeling. I don’t know anybody can live that way,” Sam Soudani said of the gunman afterward. His 23-year-old daughter survived after being hit by shrapnel from an explosive device at the theater.
On the first day of a hearing that will determine whether there’s enough evidence to put Holmes on trial, the testimony brought back the raw emotions from the days following the July 20 attack at the suburban Denver theater that left 12 people dead and dozens wounded.
The massacre thrust the problems of gun violence and mental illness into the forefront before they receded in the ensuing months. Now, just weeks after a shooting spree at a Newtown, Conn., elementary school left 20 children and six adults dead, prosecutors are laying out their case with the nation embroiled in a debate over gun violence and mental illness.
Any new details to emerge this week – including Holmes’ mental state – will come amid the discussion over an array of proposals, including tougher gun laws, better psychiatric care and the arming of teachers.

This courtroom sketch shows Aurora Police officer Justin Grizzle as he testifies at a preliminary hearing for James Holmes at a district court in Centennial, Colo., on Monday, Jan. 7, 2013. Credit: AP

This courtroom sketch shows Aurora Police Detective Matthew Ingui pointing to a large photograph of the inside of the Century 16 theater as he testifies at a preliminary hearing for suspected Aurora theater shooter James Holmes at preliminary hearing in district court in Centennial, Colo., on Monday, Jan. 7, 2013. Holmes has been charged in the shooting at the Aurora theater on July 20 that killed twelve people and injured more than 50. TV OUT. Credit: AP
The hearing is the first extensive public disclosure of the evidence against Holmes. Other information has come out, including details about how he legally bought his guns in person and purchased thousands of bullets and body armor online as well as a notebook that he sent to a psychiatrist he had seen.
A district judge forbade attorneys and investigators from discussing the case publicly, and many court documents have been under seal.
It took this long to get to the preliminary hearing because lawyers have been debating what physical evidence should be made available to one side or the other, whether the psychiatrist who met with Holmes is barred from testifying by doctor-patient privilege and who was responsible for media leaks.
It wasn’t immediately clear whether the doctor would testify this week.
On Monday, prosecutors called on the first responders to testify about the shooting at the midnight showing of the latest Batman movie, “The Dark Knight Rises,” in Aurora. Holmes had bought his ticket almost two weeks in advance. Investigators say Holmes, wearing body armor, tossed two gas canisters into the packed theater and then opened fire.
When officers arrived, they saw people running out of the theater and trying to drive away. Others walked. Some of the wounded tried to crawl out.
Officers found Holmes standing next to his car. At first, Officer Jason Oviatt said, he thought Holmes was a policeman because of how he was dressed but then realized he was just standing there and not rushing toward the theater.
Oviatt pointed his gun at him, handcuffed him and searched him. He said he found two knives and a semi-automatic handgun on top of Holmes’ car. An ammunition clip fell out of his pocket and Oviatt found another on the ground. He said Holmes was dripping in sweat and his pupils were wide open.
Prosecutors did not indicate why Holmes’ pupils were dilated.
Oviatt said Holmes seemed “very, very relaxed” and didn’t seem to have “normal emotional reactions” to things. “He seemed very detached,” he said.
Holmes volunteered that his apartment had been booby trapped, the officers said.
At one point, Grizzle asked Holmes if anyone had been helping him or working with him. “He just looked at me and smiled … like a smirk,” Grizzle recalled.
Officer Aaron Blue said Holmes was fidgeting around after he and Oviatt put him in a patrol car, prompting them to stop and search Holmes again. They were worried they might have missed something because of Holmes’ bulky outfit.
Inside the theater, the movie was still playing on the screen. An alarm was going off and moviegoers’ cellphones rang unanswered. There was so much blood on the floor, Grizzle said, that he slipped and almost fell down.
Blue went with Jessica Ghawi, who was shot in the head, to the hospital. He said he held the head of the 24-year-old aspiring sportscaster steady in the backseat while someone else drove so she could keep breathing. She later died.
Caleb Medley was also wounded in the head, and Grizzle recalled the 23-year-old aspiring comedian struggling to breathe on the way to the hospital. Every time he thought Medley had stopped breathing, Grizzle said, he yelled at the man not to die. Medley survived, and his wife gave birth to their first baby days after the shooting.
Another man Grizzle took to the hospital kept asking where his 7-year-old daughter was. For about half of the trip, Grizzle said, he had to restrain him from jumping from the patrol car. At one point, the man opened the door and tried.
Sgt. Gerald Jonsgaard recalled not finding a pulse on the youngest victim, 6-year-old, Veronica Moser-Sullivan. In talking about not finding a pulse on her, Jonsgaard had to stop talking because he was about to break down in tears.
Two pathologists testified that the victims who died were shot anywhere from one to nine times. Matthew McQuinn, 27, who dived in front of his girlfriend to shield her from the bullets, was shot nine times.
Holmes, now 25, is charged with more than 160 counts, including murder and attempted murder. The hearing will allow the judge to determine whether the prosecution’s case is strong enough to warrant a trial, but it’s rare for a judge not to order a trial if a case gets this far.
Legal analysts say that evidence appears to be so strong that Holmes may well accept a plea agreement before trial.
While prosecutors have yet to decide on whether they will seek the death penalty, such a plea could get Holmes a lesser sentence, such as life in prison; help the state avoid a costly trial; and spare survivors and families of those who died from the trauma of going through a lengthy trial.
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Comments (88)
coloradolifer
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:47pmhttp://statelaws.findlaw.com/colorado-law/colorado-capital-punishment-laws
Colorado DOES have the death penalty. It was reinstated.
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Thegeneral69
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 2:35pmIts really strange that all these mass shootings are happening, almost like these crazy’s are being influenced to engage in these acts. It reminds me of the hypnotherapy i received to quit smoking, during the session while i was deep in trance the hypnotherapist made a suggestion that i had not asked her to do. It was to work out every other day and that healthy living was to be my new state of mind. Since then i have worked out to this schedule for 3 years and am now a health food nut. Before this encounter i did not go to the gym ever and was not one to want to be all bulky and ripped, the only exercise i enjoyed was a good old 12 ounce curl at the bar. Perhaps there’s a government op going on right now to look for these types of people and influence them to do these things. Also, the fact that the guy had level 5 body amour on is just crazy. I have looked all over the net with no luck finding this type for sale to military/law enforcement. Also, his pupils were messed up and he was standing by his car, as if his instructions on what to do had suddenly stopped. Things are getting strange in this country that’s for sure. During my tour in afghan i saw many things that our government had done and covered up. It would not surprize me if this to was a government op.
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JEANNIEMAC
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 1:19pmhttp://www.infowars.com/shooter-james-holmes-and-darpa-weird-science/
James Holmes may very well have been drugged and programmed to do the killings.
Strangely enough, the movie, “Dark Knight” which was showing when Holmes entered, had a scene showing a lit-up “Aurora” sign. There was also a scene showing a map. In the lower left hand corner were the words, “Sandy Hook”.
Coincidence? Or not.
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OBAMAMUSTBESTOPPED
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 1:12pmThis is what I do not like about our justice system. He is guilty…case closed, no need for a BS insanity defense…they should have hung him day after shooting and left him there for 3 days so everyone can see what happens to people commit murder and watch and smell his body decompose.
I bet you there would be a whole lot less so called “crazy” people in this world if we dealt with the bad apples as we ought to. Yet this man is made out to be some sorta rock star, given front page news space even. Oh but let’s hope he tells us why he did it, and make it out to be an even bigger Manson like celeb in prison…he is not a celeb, he is a coward and cold blooded killer..
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chrisdev01
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 12:52pmI served as a county Paramedic for twelve years.
The most homicidal / suicidal and dangerous patients in the back of my ambulance were on tricyclic antidepressants (TCAs) or selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs)
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smwk
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:31amI don’t want to hear anymore about any of these shooters. I do not want to see their pictures. I instead would like to hear about the lives of their victims and see their pictures. Don’t give these criminals anymore attention. Shame on The Blaze for going into this again
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jay1975
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:12amI hate the term “gun violence”; it is violence, plain and simple. Was McVeigh guilty of “bomb” violence? Of course not. These are sick people who shouldn’t have been on the streets in the first place, but to use the term “gun violence” makes it sound like the gun is at fault.
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