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White House Petition Calls for Obama Admin to Designate the Catholic Church a ‘Hate Group’

Jan. 7, 2013 11:01am

On Christmas Day, a petition was added to the White House web site, urging the U.S. government to “officially recognize the Roman Catholic Church as a hate group.” According to a brief description accompanying the plea, the basis for the designation is the church’s stance on same-sex marriage and homosexuality.

“In his annual Christmas address to the College of Cardinals, Pope Benedict XVI, the global leader of the Roman Catholic Church, demeaned and belittled homosexual people around the world,” the petition reads. “Using hateful language and discriminatory remarks, the Pope painted a portrait in which gay people are second-class global citizens.”

White House Petition Calls for Catholic Church to be Called a Hate Group

Pope Benedict XVI attends the Epiphany Mass at the St. Peter’s Basilica on January 6, 2013 in Vatican City, Vatican. During the ceremony the pontiff named four new bishops including his personal secretary Georg Gaenswein. Credit: Getty Images

The text goes on to note that Pope Benedict claimed that same-sex families “are threatening to society.” The individual behind the initiative accused the Catholic leader of implying that gays are also “sub-human.” As a result of the pope’s recent words, the petition argues that the Church meets the criteria to be called a hate group by both the Southern Poverty Law Center and the Anti-Defamation League.

The effort to urge condemnation from the White House was sparked by Pope Benedict’s Christmas message. As TheBlaze previously reported (as per AP), the Catholic leader has taken his opposition to gay marriage to new heights with a strong denunciation of how people today are manipulating their sex and gender to alter their God-given nature.

White House Petition Calls for Catholic Church to be Called a Hate Group

A screen shot from the controversial White House petition.

Benedict made the comments in his annual Christmas speech to the Vatican bureaucracy — one of his most important speeches of the year and one he dedicated this year to promoting family values. However, following the posting of the petition, Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council in Washington, D.C., defended the pope. The Catholic News Agency has more:

Sprigg argued that the petition is “distorting” the Pope’s words, which do not actually include hateful or discriminatory language.

In his address to the cardinals, the Pope did not directly reference “gay marriage” or “homosexuality” at all. Rather, he defended the Church’s understanding of sexuality and “the true structure of the family, made up of father, mother, and child.”

The Holy Father refuted the modern notion of sex as “a social role that we choose for ourselves,” rather than “a given element of nature” and “bodily identity, that serves as a defining element of the human being.” [...]

Sprigg argued that the petition is misleading and “clearly has political purpose.”

Currently, the effort has 2,184 signatures. The goal, by Jan. 24, is to capture 25,000 total signatures in order to reach the 25,000 goal of receiving an official review from the Obama administration.

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Comments (140)

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  • moreteaplease
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:46am

    jcldwl
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:24am

    Doesn’t this in fact make the people who are calling for this, a hate group? Seems logical to me. What has the Catholic Church ever done to them for them to despise it so?
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    Well, that all depends on if your ” group” aligns itself with liberal ideals and PC- in which case you are not classified as a hate group. If your group believes in God, His Word and a free country, then yes, you are considered by the left to be a hate group. So I guess that makes me a big hater. So be it.

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:14pm

      I agree.

      Why should the Catholic church be put side by side with hate groups?

      Why?

      It’s a simple question, really.

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    • 000degrees
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:15pm

      yawn…….

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    • doomytram
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:38pm

      Obozo and his drones just need to go ahead and label Conservative Caucasian’s as hate group. It will save time and clarify his agenda.

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    • Locked
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:43pm

      @Cabrito

      “Why should the Catholic church be put side by side with hate groups?

      Why?

      It’s a simple question, really.”

      They shouldn’t. It’s a simple answer, and probably why with more than 2 weeks gone by since the petition started, it only has less than 10% of the signatures it even needs to be looked at by anyone in Congress.

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      Locked  
    • iteaparty.org
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 3:25pm

      White House petition to recognize marriage as being between one man and one woman! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/recognize-constitutional-amendment-god-ordained-union-marriage-being-between-one-man-and-one-woman/vj5hqPPy?utm_source=wh.gov&utm_medium=shorturl&utm_campaign=shorturl

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    • Quester55
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:33pm

      If you all had another 30 years of on again off again, on again, Research into the Deep, Dark & often Hidden world of the True History of the Roman Catholic Church, & their Questionable histories, It wouldn’t matter one Speck!, You Otherwise, Normal, Thinking , Blind as a Ding-Bat, Catholics, would never Believe it. Heck, Most of you that I have shown Evidence to that came straight from the Vatican itself, didn’t believe a word, decrying it to be a Forgery!
      That my dear Catholic Friends is the main problem here, Being able to Separate the Truth from the LIES.
      If These ATHEIST & MUSLIMS can get that S/A in the Oval office to DECLARE the CATHOLICS a HATE GROUP, Then He’ll be able to go after every JEWISH/CHRISTIAN/JESUS ONLY<ONE GOD BELIEVING PERSON out there, Have Us ALL Arrested & Tossed into Their Concentration Camps that Already exist all over our Country. Ever wonder what those," Brand New compounds," were that have been built all around the Country? They Look like prison Camps from WW2, but these are new, They have Razer Wire angled inwards, To Keep Someone Inside & 4+ watch Towers & 12 Foot High Gates To keep Everyone else out!
      How was that again.?; And HE Caused All, Both Rich & Poor, Free & Slave to Receive a Mark IN their Right Hand or IN their forehead, ……………………Read it yourself, REVELATIONS 13, King James 1611 states it loud & clear!
      By the By, Some TEXAS Schools are already handing out I.D.Cards W/Chips & when they loose their card ? Impl

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    • Free2speakRN
      Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:50am

      Quester55

      You have a lot of hate in you for a Christian. Your tearing apart of the Catholic Faith is exactly what this government wants to see. You are helping them break it down with your similar attitude. They’ve taken away Religious Freedom for Catholics in Obamacare. And part of that is fine with you. They want to hear all the, “Oh well, they’re only Catholics.”. Once Religious Freedom goes for Catholics, you are right that you are next. We are in this together, and it would do us good to love each other, because He told us to! So, quit throwing logs in the fire with the Anti-Catholic rhetoric. You’re making food out of us for the ones who call us the enemy.

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  • Astalavistababy
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:40am

    Will newspapers print the names and addresses of the 2,184 haters who signed the petition?

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    • VRW Conspirator
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:21pm

      why wait for them to do it…? aren’t the names online in the petition…can’t you see them if you review the petition…? I say we do it….name and town, name and town…as that puffed shirt O’Reilly likes to say…

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    • Rock_Paper_Bullets
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:21pm

      BWAAHahaha!!!

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:46pm

      I think the 200 people who just held a candlelight vigil for the moose that got shot by a cop should be put on a hate list for hating cops. Let’s start a petition about these people too. And let’s start a petition for the 2,000 or so haters who want the Catholic Church to be listed as a hate group. Let’s start a counter petition naming them as haters of haters. Ackk!

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  • Byrdi
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:40am

    That’s like saying people who oppose legalizing drugs are a hate group. MJ crowd could become the new oppressed demographic.

    Obama objected to the clause in a bill that protected chaplains in the military from being required to perform gay marriage ceremonies against their conscience. The president says he will stand with the gay rights. I would guess he realizes the Democrats are going to be losing votes based on their views of morality in modern society so they have to replace them with groups who oppose laws that suppress their desired behavior.

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    • Paul -Indiana
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 3:32pm

      Obama was part of the ‘choom gang’. Doesn’t choom gang mean bathouse gang in Indonesian?

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    • Quester55
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 10:52pm

      First & foremost, We Need to round up those Socialist that first Coined the Non-Word ” Haters ” as a NOUN = Name of a Person, Place or Thing!
      Then we should Tar(Cold-Tar) the Creep(S) & ride them out on a Rail!!
      If your an Atheist or a False Believer, Your Lost anyway, so unless you repent, you should invesy in Stainless Steel Futures, if this petition Gets passed, There will be a Lot of the steel used in the construction of GUILLOTINES, used for Hair/Head cuts. trust me, A Little off the top will take on a whole new meaning!

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  • michaelmoron
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:37am

    First and foremost. I have to say the Catholic church is confused.

    They oppose homosexuality, but the two men surrounding the pope are wearing White and Magenta Dresses with feminine lace.

    Secondly. We the PEOPLE Need to start some real PETITIONS to the White House

    Petition #1
    Repeal the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
    This will end Income Tax and will stop the Deficit because we will print OUR OWN money WITHOUT INTEREST ATTACHED.

    Petition #2
    Quit the United Nations and get them of OUR SHORES !!!!

    Petition #3
    Bring criminal Charges against whoever is behind Geoengineering.
    They have committed assault on ALL of us, by making us breath in Aluminum, Barium and Strontium. to name a few.

    Petition #4
    Demand that GMOs – Genetically Modified Organisms, be labeled in our GROCERY STORES.

    Petition #5
    Demand that ANY politician that ever tries to tamper with our BILL of RIGHTS should be immediately arrested, for high treason.
    Even discussing the matter, is an “INFRINGEMENT”

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    • ArmedAndReallyPissed
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:55am

      These all look like great Petitions, but sadly, when we as a Kountry can’t even “approach” the Fuhrer Obama for Murder and Treason ( twice committed ), any Petitions would be served to wipe ones own ass.
      But we can still Dream.

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    • Priscilla King
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:06pm

      Dittos!

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    • ArmedAndReallyPissed
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:25pm

      **better served**………..My bad.

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    • BeeAlert
      Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:38am

      With you on #1 and #2. Not sure on 3 & 4, but they are certainly not of equal importance. #5 – heard of free speech much? You never want to make it illegal to discuss something.

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  • Hollibrook
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:35am

    Where is the petition to list the administration and his justice department a hate group?

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:35am

    The real question for everyone is this:

    If homosexuality is a genetic predisposition and not a choice then God cannot condemn the biology that He created because it would make his will on the matter unjust. If homosexuality is a choice and not genetically driven, then homosexuals deserve no special rights, privlidges, or protections beyond what any person in the US would recieve. It would also be “rightly” called a sin by Christians because it’s somthing a person chooses to do.

    How any individual weighs in on the above will determine how they feel about the matter.

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    • Beachmastermax
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:48am

      Well, since one of the attributes of God is omniscience and another Absolute Justice, that throws the first theory out the window.

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    • apollo18
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:02pm

      Could you explain “free will”, please.?

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    • Locked
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:10pm

      “If homosexuality is a genetic predisposition and not a choice then God cannot condemn the biology that He created because it would make his will on the matter unjust. ”

      Hahaha, what? No.

      That’s like saying God created (most) men wit hthe desire to spread their DNA among any women they can find, so monogamy must be unjust.

      God created homosexuals with homosexual attraction. They have a tougher lot in life than heterosexuals, but in the same way that I’m commanded to not commit adultery, so are gays. You can follow God’s laws or not; that’s free will. Nothing in the situation is making God’s will unjust.

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    • Priscilla King
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:14pm

      Well, twin studies have shown that homosexuality is NOT genetically determined, and animal studies have shown that it appears in reaction to a crowded environment. At most homosexuality may be “epigenetic”; that is, genes may determine that, after exposure to some as yet unknown combination of pollutants found in crowded environments, one individual will become homosexual while another becomes sterile.

      Doesn’t mean we need to persecute homosexuals. Doesn’t mean we need to say that homosexual behavior is acceptable. I read the scientific evidence as meaning that we need to be very, very careful about crowding and polluting our environment.

      The Catholic Church has historically attracted large numbers of people, many of whom achieved influence in the church because they were very strange. Plenty of people don’t like their teachings either. I don’t like some of their teachings myself. So I don’t attend the Catholic Church. Why should anyone else have more of a problem than that? Or is their problem that the Bush administration allowed government “partnerships” with religious missions, so in some communities beneficiaries of public services may be, or suspect they are, victims of religious discrimination?

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    • Rock_Paper_Bullets
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:26pm

      @ranger1965:

      boo yaah!

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    • CathyvanDyke
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:07pm

      I do not believe that homosexuality is a choice … I do not believe that pedophilia is a choice … I do not believe that beastiality is a choice but … I believe that there is a choice in regards to acting on what the Bible defines as sin.

      We all have a free will to act or not to act … a free will that we exercise every day in regards to right and wrong when sinful desires/temptions present themselves in our daily walk.

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    • Frogdaddy
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:09pm

      Do Catholics not have freewill? I keep hearing these statistics that Catholics voted for this or for that, yet how do we know, because AP or Reuters says so? I didn’t vote for this in either election. Some of the “Catholic” organizations are catholic in name only. So I must lay in it? I’m just as baffled when I see O’ 2012 stickers on cars at my parish and kids private school. I, like many others had this tyrannical evil thrown upon us all, why should Catholics be above the fray? We’ll all suffer at its hands regardless. We’re being divided among so many lines. Wake up and don’t be so quick with your broad brush. Cavallo, I ask that you continue to defend me as I would defend you.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:33am

    ” … the Catholic leader has taken his opposition to gay marriage to new heights …”

    This is simply not true. Pope Benedict XVI has always opposed same-sex marriage, homosexuality and ‘gender’ manipulation, 100% – because this is Catholic Doctrine – Pope Benedict XVI and the Catholic Church have not taken anything to “new heights” – 100% is 100% is 100%.

    It’s hilarious that obama’s liberals want the Catholic Church declared a ‘hate group’ because they oppose the sin, but love the sinner. Where is the outrage from these same ignorant libs about the ‘cult of islam’, which also opposes same-sex marriage, homosexuality and ‘gender’ manipulation, but, instead of opposing the sin, and loving the sinner, the cult of islam puts the sinner to death?

    There are plenty of ‘hate groups’ in the world, but the Catholic Church is not one of them.

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    • Priscilla King
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:19pm

      Yes, and the strange thing is that before homosexual lobbyists started throwing possibly AIDS-tinged blood at people, I was very often the only person in a whole office block who would say out loud that what homosexuals do in the privacy of their own homes is their business. Virtually EVERYONE who is now over age 40 used to say worse things about homosexuals than the Pope now says!

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    • tradcatholicgirl
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:15pm

      Tri ox,

      Good post!

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    • Locked
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:41pm

      @Priscilla

      “before homosexual lobbyists started throwing possibly AIDS-tinged blood at people”

      Whaaaaaaat? Please give a citation for this. I find it incredibly unlikely that lobbyists for gay rights are throwing AIDS-tainted blood at people.

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      Locked  
    • DoctorRon
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 2:33pm

      Yet they deny priesthood to women based on gender alone. Does this mean Catholics “hate” women?

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  • Beachmastermax
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:30am

    Are the Catholics threatening government reprisal if you do not comport to their views? No, that would be the Homosexuals that are doing that. That makes them the Haters.

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    • Priscilla King
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:26pm

      Amen.

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    • junepug
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 2:20pm

      Lev 18:22 “‘You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman. That is detestible.

      It is simply Gods word. Also, according to medical research, homosexuality causes the spread of disease just as sex outside of marriage. God intended for his people live in families of man, women and children.

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  • AmericanStrega
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:30am

    RIght. And the Islamic faith just loves homosexuals!

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    • Beachmastermax
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:36am

      Well, if the Obama administration does classify the CC as haters, someone should follow up with an Islam petition and see what they do with that?

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  • TAXEVERYONE
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:28am

    I would add Obama and his WH staff and the Democrat Party to the hateful list!
    Interesting that the Catholic Church helped elect him again and he thanks them by turning on them.
    Regarding those Catholics, it is hard to explain stupid.

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:53pm

      The Catholic Church is full of individual Catholics. If you think all Catholics are like Pelosi and Biden you better think again. I am Catholic and we despise these idiots. Hands down. There are many Conservative Catholics. At least we got out and voted. Unlike a bunch of Evangelicals who sat on their couches and “waited for the Lord to act.” And Ron Paul supporters who did nothing. I voted for Romney. And will vote GOP in the next election. There are many Republican Catholics. You never hear about us cause the news slants the story every time. I fight tooth and nail with my Liberal Catholic Democrat Party Line Margaret Sanger/Planned Parenthood family all the time. Constantly. I tell them to get OUT of the Catholic Church if they are going to vote Democrat. Just get out already! I rip them a new one every time I can. I have told them straight up they are not disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ they follow Margaret Sanger and are doomed. You should see the cat fights in my family! I never hold back! I tell them how it is! Unfortunately, there are too many gutless Bishops and priests in the USA who are supposed to ex communicate and refuse communion to Pelosi, Biden and the Kennedy’s but they don’t. And they should!

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    • Rock_Paper_Bullets
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 2:47pm

      @SHORELINELIZ.:

      I’ve got your back, Sister!

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    • tradcatholicgirl
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 6:52pm

      Liz,

      I know this reply is really late, but I am on board with what you said. I fervently wish those family members of yours, and all the other CINOS, would stop self-identifying as Catholic.

      But please don’t bother to debate them anymore. PRAY for them. More effective at this point. Their souls need it.

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  • woodyee
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:26am

    BLAZE!

    RE-POST the link to the “Send Back Piers Morgan” petition!!!!!

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  • Eastinfection
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:25am

    “…the basis for the designation is the church’s stance on same-sex marriage and homosexuality.”

    Yeah… and they want them all to be beheaded, too!

    Oh wait, that’s Islam’s intent towards gays. My bad.

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  • woodyee
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:24am

    Where’s Billy m’boy?

    Wasn’t one of the choices on his early morning poll “There is no war on Christianity?”

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  • SpankDaMonkey
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:24am

    .
    I’m thinking of starting a “I Hate Obama Petition” just checking to see any of ya’ll would sign it…..

    FYI: Obama has been rated as the 4th best president ever:

    Reagan and 9 others tied for first,
    15 presidents tied for second,
    18 tied for third,
    and Obama came in fourth.

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  • Metallicat
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:20am

    actually the Pope didnt do anything. Every religion has recognized that homosexuality is not productive to a thriving,healthy society,and not equal to traditional man and woman couples who help grow a society.

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  • ArmedAndReallyPissed
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:16am

    YES. Unlike the Muslim DiaperHeads who have infiltrated AmeriKa. They’re ok. But the Catholic Church, oh how Evil.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:24am

      Doesn’t this in fact make the people who are calling for this, a hate group? Seems logical to me. What has the Catholic Church ever done to them for them to despise it so?

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    • ArmedAndReallyPissed
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:40am

      ALL these Communist, ignorant Politicians in Washington want to divide US, while they continue to get wealthy. Destroy all Rights and Religion.Only those in Washington know what’s best for AmeriKa and the Fuhrer is at the top of the Heap. Everything our Founding Fathers stood for is under attack.
      Pave the way for the Project. Kill Amerika and all its stand for.
      51% of AmeriKans asked for this in November. By 2016, ALL will be lost.

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  • gyro
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:16am

    obama atacked the Catholics and they voted for him along with the gays
    this is a go no were story as they hate the pope when he disagrees with them love him when he agrees with them or sundays
    regarding RANGER1965 post below
    radical homosexual activist are just stupid for not smart enough to put together a argument anyone can fallow with reason

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  • biohazard23
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:15am

    Wow, the pansies certainly have their g-strings in a twist over this, don’t they? Heaven forbid should anyone not kowtow to their agenda. Whatever happened to tolerance?

    Oh wait…

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    • Fubared
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:27am

      Can they get SS bennies for having a too tight banana hammock? Under ADA…

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    • copatriots
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:31am

      Mornin’ BIO! Hope all is well with you!

      Don’t ya just love how Islam can be advanced by the Left but Christianity is considered a “hate group”?

      Oh…..and I just came across this study which I found to be an accurate reflection of our young, narcissistic trolls who frequent The Blaze. Their inflated egos eventually meet the real world. LOL Enjoy!

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257715/Study-shows-college-students-think-theyre-special–read-write-barely-study.html

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    • biohazard23
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:52am

      @Fubared, probably, as long as said banana has not been surgically removed. :)

      @CoPats, good morning! I saw that article earlier today. Un-freakin-believable yet not unexpected. And yes, it’s pretty sad that the left will actively promote the troglodytes of islam and protect those who commit jihad and honor killings yet attack the Catholic church while willfully ignoring all the good the Church has done. Again, not unexpected but still completely pathetic.

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  • brigott
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:14am

    I believe that whoever started that petition against the Catholic church is showing hatred and animosity toward the Catholic church. I believe that individual – and anyone who signs that petition – needs to be designated as a hate group.

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  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:14am

    God will have the final judgement about all of us so best you keep your heart and soul free of evil.

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  • RaydocX
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:13am

    any insinuation that religion makes homosexuals ‘second class citizens’ is inherently wrong.
    the church supports the age old LEGAL definition of marriage. that is all.
    they may decry homosexual behavior as wrong or sick or evil… that is opinion.

    otherwise, they have no ability to classify citizens, and the present push by organized/ radicalized homosexuals seeks a new right, not to mention actively SEEKS classification as a minority group.

    not saying the church is right or that something akin to marriage shouldn’t be acceptable for same sex couples (government doesn’t protect marriage now)… just saying this petition is flawed at its argument.

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  • Cavallo
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:12am

    Sure why not? The Catholics voted for this crap. Not that the petitions mean anything. I guess equating capitalism with terrorism and having Catholics vote for Atheistic Fascism isn’t enough. Not until they allow gay perverted sex on their altars. Ce la vie. This is what the Catholics wanted, the bed they made they must lay in. I’ve defended my last Catholic. Now I will just be amused at the choices they have made, and the course they have set themselves on.

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:45am

      Cavallo,
      What you are doing is similar to what the left does when they divide us by “the rich”, minorities, gender, age…. Not all Catholics voted for Obama and those that did, violated one of the Dogma’s of the church (a requirement of belief to qualify yourself as “Catholic”, therefore they do not practice their religion and are “Catholic” in name only).

      If putting people into boxes is the way you want to go, as numbers go far more Protestants and Atheists just didn’t show up to vote, essentially handing the election to Obama. Women, minorities, people who live East of the Mississippi and north of the Mason Dixon line, City dwellers, union members, people under 30 all voted for Obama by a large majority, it was not a flaw in one group or another but a combination of all.

      We are failing not as Catholics, Protestants, Black, White, Male, Female, Urbanites, Rural dwellers, Northerners or Southerners, we are failing as Americans, but accepting that would mean that all of us share the blame for not doing enough and is just difficult for some people to admit. Unless and until we are willing to see this, things will not get better…..

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    • Rock_Paper_Bullets
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:02pm

      @ CAVALLO:
      As a devout (as much as I can be as a sinner), God-fearing,and practicing Roman Catholic, in my experiences, many of those Catholics who voted Obama were generally liberal Catholics-in Name Only (one need only look to Pelosi or Ried as glowing examples of this belief mindset) or don’t have a well-formed understanding of Catholic “Social Justice.

      Irregardless, Jesus called all Believers, Catholic or Protestant to hate the Sin and to Love the Sinner.
      Though admittedly, it is hard sometimes we must strive to do so and seek forgiveness/repentance when we fail..

      Ad maiorem Dei gloriam

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    • shorelineliz
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:09pm

      @Cavallo: Don’t give up on all Catholics okay? We despise Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy’s as much as you do and we are Catholics. Conservative Catholics. For the life of me I don’t understand why the College of Bishops hasn’t excommunicated these apostates I mention above. And a bunch of bishops and priests, starting with Fordham University and Georgetown University. I don’t get it. We USED to excommunicate and SHUN and refuse communion at the altar to Catholics who publicly went against the churches teachings as Pelosi and Biden and the Kennedy’s publicly do in this day and age. But we have a BUNCH of gutless bishops and priests that the College of Bishops and Pope Benedict do not discipline. This aggravates us Catholics who remember what USED to be in the Catholic Church. Is it about money? How much does the Catholic Church USA bring into the Vatican? I don’t know. It disgusts me too. I don’t know the “Politics” of it but I can tell you it stinks! But, I spent 25 years visiting other denominations too: Foursquare, United Methodist, Episcopal Church USA and I can tell you that politically the churches stink! There is no discipline because of lawsuits that would bankrupt any denomination. I think that is the problem. If you start something the lawsuits would bankrupt everybody. So everyone shuts up. Disgusts me too. Worse thing about being Catholic for me is knowing Pelosi/Biden get communion every Sunday. Puke bucket please.

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    • Dismayed Veteran
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 1:35pm

      Cavallo

      I am 64. I am Catholic. I have never voted for a Democrat at any level of government. Your generalization is inappropriate.

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    • by faith
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 3:10pm

      Pew Research Center 2012 Presidential vote

      Catholic 50 Obama / 48 Romney
      White Catholic 40/59
      Hispanic Catholic 75/21
      Black 95/5

      Catholic’s did not elect Obama, Hipanic Catholics and Black Catholics did.
      Those votes probably had more to do with immagration and race than religion

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    • horsefeathers99
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 3:48pm

      Of my Catholic family and friends maybe about 1 in 6 voted for O.

      I don’t believe their polls, anyone to say they are Catholic who might have been at one time or not at all just to have their say in a poll.

      Just look at the difference with the Democratic Catholics versus Republican ones. Who are the real followers of Christ and biblical teachings?

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  • SREGN
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:10am

    From what I see, the CBC is more of a hate group than the CC.

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  • IndyGuy
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:07am

    Seems to me that the haters are the ones pushing this…

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  • RANGER1965
    Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:07am

    In my experience no one, and I mean NO ONE! has as much bitterness and hate as a radical homosexual activist. They make the Black Panthers, KKK, and Eco Terrorists look like pikers.

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    • gyro
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:09am

      Catholics?
      dont understand the coment?

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    • Fubared
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:10am

      Well said. Count on the troll LGBLTers to be here and spewing asap.

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    • TIMEBOMB
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:24am

      As I stand here typing this ( I can’t sit because of all the fun my SS men gave me) I must say your assesment of my regime is correct.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 11:26am

      Are you surprised? Once a person become gay, any threat to the gay community & gay lifestyle automatically becomes a existential threat to their psyche.

      The urge to protect the lie is so strong that they will turn on the psychologists, neuro-scientists, biologists & any other branch of science that publishes facts inimical to the lie. The APA has already learned its’ lesson. They will not fight the gay lobby.

      But until the lie is deconstructed there will always be contradictions in the “received” truth of the scientific literature.

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    • Rock_Paper_Bullets
      Posted on January 7, 2013 at 12:15pm

      @WALKABOUT: That was a very interesting secular analysis of the issue; I agree (for many reasons, but this is a good arguement)

      Bravo!

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