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Biden and NRA to Meet Face-to-Face as White House Pushes for New Gun Control Laws

Jan. 8, 2013 4:28pm Jason Howerton

President Barack Obama, accompanied by Vice President Joe Biden. Credit: AP

(TheBlaze/AP) — Vice President Joe Biden will meet face-to-face with a representative with the National Rifle Association on Thursday as the Obama administration continues to push for new gun control measures.

The NRA has accepted an invitation to meet with the gun violence task force, led by Biden, the group confirmed to Fox News. President Barack Obama created the task force following the horrific Sandy Hook shooting in Newtown, Conn. in December. The task force has until the end of the month to provide the president with a list of proposals.

“The White House and the NRA have found little common ground as the two groups craft separate responses to the tragedy. White House Press Secretary Jay Carney reiterated Tuesday that President Obama is ‘skeptical that putting more guns in schools would solve this problem,’” Fox News reports.

Biden will also meet Wednesday with gun violence victims’ groups and gun safety organizations, a White House official said. On Thursday, he will hold talks with gun ownership groups, as well as advocates for sportsmen. The vice president also plans to meet this week with representatives from the entertainment and video-game industries. The official was not authorized to discuss the meetings before they were publicly announced and thus spoke on condition of anonymity.

Obama has called the Dec. 14 shooting in Newtown the worst moment of his presidency. It catapulted gun control to the top of his priority list for the first time in his presidency and also led some pro-gun lawmakers on Capitol Hill to express a willingness to consider new measures.

National Rifle Association (NRA) Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre waves off questions from the media as he walks by a video screen illustratrating the NRA’s proposted National School Shield, December 21, 2012, in Washington, DC, on the one week anniversary of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings in Newtown, Connecticut. The United States’ most powerful pro-gun lobbying group, the National Rifle Association, called Friday for armed police or security guards to be deployed to every school in the country.’The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,’ declared LaPierre, in the group’s first reaction since last week’s massacre of 26 children and staff in an elementary school. Credit: AFP/Getty Images

Obama aides say the president still plans to act quickly on Biden’s proposals. They worry that as the shock of the Newtown shooting fades, so, too, will the prospects that pro-gun lawmakers will work with the White House to tighten restrictions.

“I believe most Americans would disagree with the idea that in the wake of what happened in Newtown, Conn., that we should put off any action on the issue of gun violence,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said Monday in response to McConnell’s comments. “It’s certainly not a sentiment the president supports.”

Biden’s recommendations are likely to include proposals for legislation, as well as executive action Obama can sign into law without lawmakers’ approval.

The president already has called on Congress to reinstate a ban on military-style assault weapons, close loopholes that allow gun buyers to skirt background checks and restrict high-capacity magazines. While the president may consider additional gun control measures, he also has ordered his administration to examine ways to improve mental health coverage and consider cultural issues like violence in video games and movies.

In addition to Biden’s meetings this week, Education Secretary Arne Duncan will meet this week with parent and teacher groups, while Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius will meet with mental health and disability advocates.

The White House said other meetings are also scheduled with community organizations, business owners and religious leaders.

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Comments (56)

youshuthehellup
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:45am
biden is so dumb! he is just – so dumb. Think about it – one really dumb guy thinks he has all the answers to take gun rights away. he is so big on ego that he really believes he knows best for all of us…?! the dude is a cartoon.

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Blindtimes
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:55am
The NRA needs us. Join today to show OBama That we the people believe in the NRA more than we believe in him. I did. There are the voice for us. There are the constitution voice for us.

Please join.
I do not work for the NRA. I just know in my heart they are the only voice we have.

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TheCurator
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:45am
Just a thought. Thinking about this whole gun issue just produced a huge flashing red light into my visual field; DISTRACTION! There is a lot of very distracting noise about the firearm issue, forming what could be a huge smoke screen useful to the left , and no real action…yet. The left uses this tactic frequently. Just in case, we need to be very cognizant of what else these people might be doing or trying to sneak by us while they have all our attention on the second amendment thing. Watch for seemingly insignificant announcements, or releases on Friday afternoon. Just a thought.

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truthspeare
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:45am
What we need from our leaders, if there is to be gun control, is to defininitively know, that they will live by the same absurdity.

No exemptions for public officials either during or after office. If not, why? Show me the math. How is you life more than ours”

More private individuals are harmed by weapons than public. So the public official exemption makes no sense. Lead the way mofo. Otherwise, shut up. Hypocrite. Give up you protection first, then lead the way. But, coward, liar, coward, we both know you will not do it. The law you pass will exempt you, won’t it coward. If it does, there will be no respect for the law coward, liar, little girl.

By the way, there is this small matter called the Second Amendment, which is an “individidual” right. We do not want to infringe on that do we? Is this an inconvenience. So sad, it is the LAW. Remember what that is. By the way, coward, if you exempt yourself, you are a p888sy.

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- truthspeare
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 2:14am
  I make no apologies for the harsh rhetoic. The law passed will allow those who pass them to live under the same protection they deny us.
  
  Oh yes, I can hear the justification. But when I look into the eyes of my family I have one phrase I wish in strong terms to impart to the law makers: F88ck you! You pathetic loser P88ssies. I would like for you to personally come and explain to me how you and yours deserve protection and my family does not. But come alone. I want this to be real personal like. No weapons. Man to man. Just a little chat. I want you to sit down, in front of me, and show me the math, just show me, the math how you are worth more than me. I promise you, the exchange will be exciting and stimulating.
  
  No violence. Just stimulating. I will then explain in simple terms, so that you might understand, that we in the real world dealing with life, where **** happens, unexpectedly, and we do not have hired security, we do not have the benefit of help and the hipe that goes with it, how we are knee deep in with the deal. How 30 minutes for police officers to show up is too late. That may too hard for you to understand living in posh Georgetown, etc., etc, but we live, it, day by day. Your so called gun control puts limits on us, law abiding citizens, because in case you have not noticed, moron, the criminals are not abiding by the law AND the frecihen borders are not secure moron. So what are you banning moron?
  
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SGT Rock
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:31am
NRA do not compromise.

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banjarmon
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:19pm
Rickaustin thanks for the info and re post.

RICKAUSTIN
Posted on January 6, 2013 at 7:04pm

LAW OF THE LAND
The general misconception is that any statute passed by legislators bearing the appearance of
law constitutes the law of the land. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and
any statute, to be valid, must be in agreement. It is impossible for a law, which violates the
Constitution to be valid. This is succinctly stated as follows:
“All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” Marbury vs. Madison, 5
US (2 Cranch) 137, 174, 176, (1803)
“When rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule making or
legislation which would abrogate them.” Miranda vs. Arizona, 384 US 436 p. 491.
“An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no
protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation, as inoperative as though it had never
been passed.” Norton vs. Shelby County 118 US 425 p. 442
“The general rule is that an unconstitutional statute, though having the form and name of law, is
in reality no law, but is wholly void, and ineffective for any purpose; since unconstitutionality
dates from the time of its enactment, and not merely from the date of the decision so branding
it.
“No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it.” 16
Am Jur 2nd, Sec 177 late 2d, Sec 256

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banjarmon
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:40pm
ranepowel
I can tell from your comments on this and other post, that your head is fill with things a dog would not eat and a cat would want to cover up. Some where in your past life some one filled your head with buzzard vomit and PIG SQUIRT! May your 72 virgins be male pigs and goats…

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banjarmon
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:36pm
The Second Amendment – Right to Bear Arms. A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be INFRINGED.
This is MY RIGHT to OWN and to BEAR ARMS PERIOD!!!!

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- Trigus
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:03pm
  Does anyone find it strange that Barry and his band of 40 thieves want to take away our right to bear arms (2nd Amendment.) Yet, Barry and his band are willing to threaten Legal Firearm Dealers into selling Firearms to government straw buyers. Then those government straw buyers take those firearms and give the firearms to Mexican Drug Cartels.
  
  Again, Barry and his band provided firearms for Libyan Terrorist to overthrow a legal government. Now, Barry and his band are providing firearms to Syrian Terrorist to overthrow a legal government.
  
  So, how can BArry and his band of 40 thieves justify disarming Honest American Citizens?
  
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- NoUseForLogic
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:26pm
  What part of “well regulated” do you morans not understand?
  
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- seanscythe
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:32am
  @ NoUseForLogic what’s a moran? Oh you meant “Moron”, this would be the pot calling the kettle black moment for you I guess.
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 1:12pm
  Marine 1 posted this earlier…thanks
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:42am
  
  The United States Constitution is quite clear on our rights under the 2nd Amendment.
  
  “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”
  
  One does NOT need a law degree to understand those words and they do not need to be debated or interpreted by a Supreme Court.
  
  We, the PEOPLE, are the militia and every one of U.S. American citizens has the GOD-given right to have firearms which enables U.S. to be the guardians against a tyrannical government. We now have a tyrannical government.
  
  GOD Almighty, The 2nd Amendement, and those of U.S. who understand the importance of the Constitution, are the only things standing in the way of tyrants in this nation from making U.S. all slaves.
  
  We did not elect people to go back to Washington, D.C. to take our GOD-given rights away but that is what they have done. They are following satan and not GOD.
  
  For U.S. this is as much about religious freedom as anything. Once guns are gone will the “state” then tell U.S. what religion we will practice if any?
  
  I choose to be a free man and worship GOD according to my own dictates.
  
  No 2nd Amendment – No 1st Amendment or otherwise. Pretty simple concept.
  
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Dkoonz
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:59pm
I think if the NRA slips old Joe B. a couple of dollars he might just go away.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:58pm
  Maybe Malarky Joe will slip on his own crap and break his head on the pavement….One can only hope. Of course then we would have to ban real tile floors and Obamy would require soft rubber squares replace them, each one being registered for the good of the children
  
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theridgeman
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:38pm
OK, I did a very scientific gun control test. I set my gun on the table and wrote down the time. After exactly twelve hours, my gun was still there in the exact same spot. It did not get out of control or harm anybody. Wow!! next I unlocked the Gun cabinet for a few days and not one single gun escaped or went on any kind of rampage. Odd? none of my guns are out of control. So why do we need gun control?? Maybe we should try PEOPLE control. Novel idea, besides, gun control distracts the G-men from having knife control or arson control or bomb control or poison control or drunken car control or crashing airplane control or slippery bathtub control. There are so many things that need to be controlled. Hummmmm? maybe this is really all about people control, easy task if they don’t have guns, yup, ask the Germans pre’ WW II. I’m still watching my guns and I will punish them severely if they get out of control.

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- Av8tor056
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:14pm
  Thank You… That makes me feel so much better. I’d been losing sleep worrying that your guns might go on a rampage. Or worse yet- hook up with my guns and make a bunch of little derringers.
  
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:30pm
Anyone harboring heroic notions of resisting gun confiscation by para-military police, national guard troops or the active duty military, better be committed to meeting deadly force with deadly force, and likely losing!

Delaying one’s commitment to support and defend the Constitution against government abuses, until forced to draw the line at defending the Second Amendment with your life, is a little late to the fight. That looming scenario is unnecessary and unwanted by everyone except Obama, his puppeteers and misinformed minions.

Obama is encouraging your elected employees to ignore Constitutional limits on their power. Their treason depends on misplaced military loyalty sufficient to attack Americans. Rather than invite a test of their loyalty, it is wiser to unite now and peacefully demand your elected servants and judges to comply with the Constitution.

Patriotic preemptive action must be quick, effective and united. Rally around the Tea Party to form a viable third party! Demand state and federal employees obey the Constitution! File lawsuits challenging their treason! Do this and much more now, well before “authorities” start confiscating guns on your street!

The Presidency has been surrendered to usurpation and vote fraud!* Fixing these problems will solve many others.

* M. Apuzzo, Esq., “Barack Obama is Ineligible …” http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/10/barack-obama-is-ineligible-to-be.html (Revised 11/10/2012)

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Hotconchick
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:24pm
Heads Up:
I read about this on a few other “news” sites and they are not using the terms gun control. No mention of it. It’s meetings about Gun Safety/ Gun Violence Bill.
Not a surprise but pay attention to it. It’s pretty amusing that they think we are this stupid especially the progs in the comments- see it’s about gun safety not taking away guns. Ugh…

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ChaRobSa
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:06pm
Us as citizens need to continue to set the example and buy firearms as much as possible. Its hard to take something away that everyone has. Btw while on the bans topic i believe we need to petition to ban cnn or atleast the wackos that report on the network. Just saying. I think they are way worse for this country than firearms.

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Heffe44
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:55pm
There are limits the 2nd amendment. It is not a licences to walk around with or own any fire arm at any time.

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- M13
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:06pm
  Good for us your opinion doesn’t mean anything. I have a permit that says I can walk around with a gun whenever I feel the need.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:10pm
  And we’re going to happily take that away from you in the coming weeks :)
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:03pm
  There are several limitations on one’s freedom of speech. They include:
  Clear and Present Danger
  Fighting Words
  Libel and Slander
  Obscenity
  Conflict with Other Legitimate Social or Governmental Interests
  Time, Place, and Manner
  
  Each limitation has been established by the Supreme Court to ensure the civility of our free society. The 2nd Amendment can be and has been constitutionally limited and will be again, there is no doubting that. The Constitution has evolved to address new issues made possible by technology and invention. As firearm technology advances we must discuss the impact on society. I can’t own a nuclear warhead, weaponized spores, most forms of grenades, and a host of other arms that did not exist in 1790. Those weapons serve no alternate purpose than to kill large groups of human beings. Civilized debate requires a reasoned argument why semi-automatic, high capacity rifles shouldn’t be included in that category. Not making that reasoned argument and instead insisting regulations can never be placed on arms only ensures defeat.
  
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- Redhawke
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:07pm
  Actually, no, there are no limits on the Second Amendment. And, the Second Amendment is not a license, it is a natural right of a free people put in writing.
  
  ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ!!!!
  
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- Heffe44
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:23pm
  @M13
  that is not true… you can’t walk around with a gun when ever you feel the need. There are several places that you can’t take that gun. Plus, what gun you carry is regulated too. Try and carry around a rocket launcher. I know that is far out there example but it makes my point. If rocket launchers and where you carry your gun can be regualted (and those laws proven constitutional) then regualtions on assualt rifles or high capacity magazines are constitutional too.
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:09pm
  To MARINE25: You make excellent points. Thank you.
  
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- thunderlump
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:07pm
  Ranepowel
  I suppose you’ll be doing the taking? Fricken titty baby. I suppose you won’t want a gun when the zombies come to violate your wife, sisters, daughters, and mother? I’m sure you’ll protect them with sunshine, and unicorns. Read some basic history and find out what happens when economy’s and country’s collapse trading liberty for tyrants. See 18th century France, 19th century Cambodia, Germany, Russia, Turkey, Bosnia, Serbia, and others. Your an insult to human reasoning, try reading something of value and once you have an ounce of knowledge think what it means to take something. I doubt you’ll think its so easy.
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:15am
  @ Ranepowel
  
  Columbine happened during Clinton’s assault rifle ban. Connecticut has an assault weapons ban. Colorado, including Aurora has very strict gun laws, Illinois, esp. Chicago, has very strict gun laws. The cities with the strictest gun laws, have the highest gun murder rates. England bans all guns, and has a 3.5 times higher rate of violent crime than the U.S.. The violent crime rate in the U.S. has decreased over the last two decades. Had the Principle in Connecticut had a 9 mm rather than her bare hands, the shooter would never had been able to continue his assault. Look at the reality of the statistics. Act on intellect, rather than emotion. All of these shooters, were criminals, and paid no attention to the Law. More laws will not make them pay attention. These cowards are only going to areas where they know there will be no resistance. The school shooter in Connecticut killed himself as the Police arrived. This is the reality. The spin being presented will only put the innocent at greater danger from the Criminals, and the deranged. Had Holmes tried his theater act in Texas, he never would have gotten through his first clip before half of the theater would have taken him down. In Aurora, all they could do was throw their popcorn at him. If you do not like guns, don’t get one. If you are ever threatened, God willing, there will be someone there to protect you. If you take guns away from reasonable people, only the unreasonable will have the
  
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breiten
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:46pm
The NRA, needs this meeting to be published so we all know what was said = transparency. Let everyone hear what is being said, I hate these closed door meetings. The NRA needs to use the 1st amendment to expose what Biben and all are thinking and saying.

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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:08pm
  Just as soon as the NRA releases all their internal memos to the public.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:08pm
  Oh, and a list of all it’s members and their addresses. Tired of this closed door business!
  
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- Redhawke
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:12pm
  The NRA is a private organization. You are not entitled to its internal information nor its membership list. Too bad for you.
  
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Proud Stray Dog
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:38pm
Benghazi Barry’s going to keep pushing, and We the People will push back.

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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:12pm
  No, We the People want to get rid of all guns. You’re in a lunatic fringe movement.
  
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- SuaSponte
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:45pm
  @ranepowel
  feel free to try and take mine. You wont get within a mile. Gotta love these silly, pansy, communists. You cant imagine what a 750 grain amax bullet, at supersonic speed, does to tissue. 3 ft. temp. wound cavity. It really is impressive to see. You just have no clue the hornets nest youre poking, do you. Bring it, pantywaist.
  Molon labe!
  
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- NoUseForLogic
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:34pm
  Whoa suasponte! You win the absolute dumbest comment award.
  
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OUTLAW_WEALTH
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:36pm
The NRA is a pretend conservative organization. Look for the theatrical play called, “Being Moderate” and falling over backwards to appear politically correct.

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- M13
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:13pm
  There would not be a 2nd Amendment if it was not for the NRA.
  
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milo75
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:32pm
If there not willing to lose there lives and fortune as leaders like our founders, then we will all see thier tree bears no fruit and proclaim them as weak and worthless or worst fake and cowards. Stand strong my brothers you are fighting the devil.

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niterider
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:25pm
No more gun control. No more restrictions on our Constitutional rights. Here is the line in the sand.

http://dcclothesline.wordpress.com/2013/01/03/if-they-come-for-your-guns-do-you-have-a-responsibility-to-fight/

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truthnstuff
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:17pm
Come into my parlor said the spider to the fly.

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FaithfulFriend
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:06pm
Time for joey to spread his legs for a change.

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DEFCON4
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:06pm
This meeting with NRA, vice-President Biden will reenact, ‘the vice-presidental debate’.
The buffoon,(Biden) will use mis-direction, deflection, and parody to hide his lack of
knowledge of the 2nd. Ammendment.
Could be, quite hilarious…………..

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DougHuffman
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:03pm
Lest there be any confusion, the National Rifle Association does not speak for me, it speaks only for its cozened members. My H&K will speak for me when it is time – MOLON LABE, in other words, “From my cold, dead hands!”

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- OUTLAW_WEALTH
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:36pm
  I’m with you.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:16pm
  I’ll be happy to oblige that request :)
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 5:52pm
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Most Gun Violence and Mass Shootings are committed by a Democrats, look at Chicago it’s full of Democrat on Democrat crime………

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- Redhawke
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:16pm
  That is why the dems are upset. They keep losing living voters.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 5:51pm
Useless waste of time. The Communists want a MINIMUM of a reinstitution of the Clinton “ugly rifle and large magazine” ban. The NRA fought that then and they better fight it now or they are going to have a lot of pi ssed off members, myself included.

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- Mil Mom
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:15pm
  I remember attending a college senior day program with one of my sons. Whilst the students participated in the programs we parents were briefed, they would be taught to start a group discussion and permit each member to add something, then lead the group to agreeing to their already decided final outcome. Sure sounds like what goes on in politics. (My son chose a different school.) I believe bidens final outcome, along with the recommendations and executive orders were all in writing somewhere in the white house before biden was ever given the task. I wonder if he’s a willing participant in the public deception, or if he’s even aware? Court Jester anyone?
  
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