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Find Out How Police Used Provision in Healthcare Law to Confiscate Man’s Camera and Charge Him With Crimes

Jan. 8, 2013 6:23pm Jason Howerton

Andrew Henderson Charges With Misdemeanors After Police Take His Camera, Citing Healthcare Law

Andrew Henderson and his camera with the parking lot of his Little Canada apartment building in the background. He filmed Ramsey Co. deputies arresting a man in the parking lot and had his camera confiscated and was charged with obstructing justice. He plans to sue. (Pioneer Press: John Doman)

As a bloody-faced man was frisked by sheriff’s deputies and loaded into an ambulance, 28-year-old Andrew Henderson was recording the scene with his video camera — as he regularly does with law enforcement.

But as he recorded outside his apartment building in Little Canada, Minn., Henderson was approached by one of the deputies, Jacqueline Muellner, who then ripped the camera out of his grip.

“We’ll just take this for evidence,” Muellner said, the voices of the officers captured on Henderson’s cellphone. “If I end up on YouTube, I’m gonna be upset.” A copy of the cellphone audio was provided to the Pioneer Press.

A week after his camera was taken on Oct. 30, 2012, Henderson was charged with obstruction of legal process and disorderly conduct, both misdemeanors. Henderson is adamant that he did nothing wrong.

Henderson explained to the Ramsey County sheriff’s deputies that he was within his rights to be there and to record them on video. He also refused to identify himself, according to the Pioneer Press.

The day after his camera was confiscated, Henderson went to the Arden Hills sheriff’s substation to get it back. He was told he would have to wait, but instead of a camera, he later received the two misdemeanor charges.

Henderson returned again around Nov. 17 to get a copy of the police report and retrieve his camera. Deputy Dan Eggers refused to provide him with either but had some words for him.

“I think that what (the deputies) felt was you were interfering with someone’s privacy that was having a medical mental health breakdown,” Eggers said in a conversation recorded by Henderson. “They felt like you were being a ‘buttinski’ by getting that camera in there and partially recording what was going on in a situation that you were not directly involved in.”

Unfortunately for Eggers, there is no law against being a so-called “buttinski.”

The Press has more details on the reasoning behind the charges:

The deputy wrote on the citation, “While handling a medical/check the welfare (call), (Henderson) was filming it. Data privacy HIPAA violation. Refused to identify self. Had to stop dealing with sit(uation) to deal w/Henderson.”

Henderson appeared in Ramsey County District Court on Jan. 2. A pretrial hearing was rescheduled for Jan. 30.

The allegation that his recording of the incident violated HIPAA, or the federal Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, is nonsense, said Jennifer Granick, a specialist on privacy issues at Stanford Law School.

The rule deals with how health care providers handle consumers’ health information.

“There’s nothing in HIPAA that prevents someone who’s not subject to HIPAA from taking photographs on the public streets,” Granick said. “HIPAA has absolutely nothing to say about that.”

Henderson’s case, the latest in a number of incidents involving citizens recording police officers, is now gaining national attention.

Jane Kirtley, professor of media ethics and media law at the University of Minnesota, told the Pioneer Press that she wished “the police around the country would get the memo on these situations.”

“Somebody needs to explain to them that under U.S. law, making video recordings of something that’s happening in public is legal,” she added. “Law enforcement has no expectation of privacy when they are carrying out public duties in a public place.”

The Ramsey County Sheriff’s Office is refusing to comment on the case, saying it involves an “ongoing investigation.”

However, he did specify that, “It is not our policy to take video cameras. It is everybody’s right to (record) … What happens out in public happens out in public.”

Henderson said he plans to see the case through if the charges against him aren’t dropped. In other words, he will not be accepting any plea deals.

“I’m in the right,” he said. “If they don’t drop it, I’m definitely going to trial.”

(H/T: Drudge)

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Comments (156)

Lando
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:30pm
NWA had it right a long time ago!

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ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:29pm
Everywhere I go, I’m being videotaped! Stores, gas stations, cameras along public roads for monitoring traffic, cop car cameras, redlight cameras, library surveillance, maybe even your own laptop when someone remotely accesses its camera to peer inside your home. But film a cop in public? Look out brother!

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- TheBurningTruth
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:00pm
  It’s worse than that. Say you’re filmed in a private venue such as a store. Something happens and along come the police to confiscate that video. Somehow the police have the right to video of YOU from a private location while you DON’T have any right to video THEM in public.
  
  We DO live in a POLICE state. One created by Progressive Liberals and getting worse every day.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:40pm
  The stripping away of our liberties. Soon we will be under Napoleonic Law.
  
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- GeorgieJo
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:31pm
  MINNESOTA—-Land of Loons and Bar Nutz Franken.
  Enough said.
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:11pm
  This is just a gaggle of bad police giving law enforcement a bad name. I have never heard of street cops using HIPAA for anything. I do know it is used against them every single day to prevent them from gathering information about people that they are not privy to without a warrant. Anarchists (with no life) try to use video cameras with police for the sole purpose of provoking this sort of response. This is what happens when a dumb officer interacts with one of those people.
  
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- Beck_Art_Of_Obama_In_PeePee
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:29pm
  “Find Out How Police Used Provision in Healthcare Law to Confiscate Man’s Camera and Charge Him With Crimes”
  
  So-o-o-o, how’s that whole Police-standing-army-Department-thing working out for everyone? (America’s Founders knew and greatly feared and warned us of it. Past time to put an end to government thuggery and disband the police “standing army” departments.)
  
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- JohnnyinthePedros
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:40pm
  Record and sue the police every chance you get. Maybe then they will stop behaving badly.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:53pm
  Uh, what was the healthcare provision again? I didn’t catch that.
  
  Think about the most embarrassing moment that ever occurred in your front yard or that of a family member. Or any public place for that matter? And argument with your spouse or your kid that you aren’t to terribly proud about. Or maybe a relative is, you know, having a problem. Think about it. How would you like that posted youtube by some creep? If the cop stopped him, when you be mad at the cop and declare that the video guy’s rights are being violated?
  
  Yeah, it’s legal. There’s no expectation of privacy, except the common decency of your fellow human being. Think about that next time you walk at your door. Be on guard. Once you step over that threshold, be alert. Your every action could be videotaped and posted on the internet for the entire world to see. And, if that make you nervous, just think about much you respect this video guy for asserting his God given rights.
  
  If you never have and never will do anything in public you’d be happy to see the entire world see. Relax. You’re safe. Good for you.
  
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- dwilco77
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:58pm
  This is a tough one, as at the same time I am kind of sick of the little wusses running around with their cameras whirring at every little event that occurs. It does make it hard for the honest Police to perform their jobs with any authority. Every now and then, I think the criminal gets what he deserves when he gets roughed up a bit. When you see the riff-raff that these Officers have to deal with on a daily basis, it is truly amazing that more of them do not end up with broken bodies by the time they are brought in.
  
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- Junter
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:26pm
  SendTheMeteors,
  
  Serves you right for arguing with family on your front lawn. Why can’t you get along with your family?
  
  Public space is public. You want to fight with your hubby or spank your kids do it in your house. I don’t want to see it. If it gets bad enough expect good citizens to intervene in your antics.
  
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- TexVet61
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:07am
  LIKE I SAID, CORRUPT POLICE. using language I have heard from cops before (only because I stood my ground and wouldn’t allow them to search my car at a Dallas road block. “well, only someone that has something to hide is worried about letting us look”, so, back at ya cops. only someone that has something to hide is afraid of allowing the public to do the same damn thing you do which is tape you. It is SO funny (not really) that cops think the laws don’t apply to them, try to force a city full of UNION workers AKA COPS, they now have to do the same thing our men in the MIlitary do, RANDOM DRUG TESTS, you will see threats for strikes faster then you can say BOO, I saw it happen in Dallas, that was when my eyes were open, I mean, why exactly would you be against random drug testing? afraid you won’t pass? I mean, I don’t understand how they get away with it, Fuq the union, are they above the law because they are UNION or cops? eitherway, the laws should apply to everyone, even POTUS!
  
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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:17am
  @THEBURNINGTRUTH:
  Progressives and Liberals are two different Ideologies. Progressives are more Socialist in nature than Liberals. Liberals are more Libertarian and if they would turn back to the true definition of Liberalism they would be screaming for a smaller Gov’t and more freedoms, not less. “LIBER” is the latin root for many words that denote freedom from regulations and even some rules of Society. Progressives are totally opposite.
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:30am
  dwilco77;
  
  “This is a tough one” ~~~ No, it isn’t! ~~~ “little wusses running around with their cameras whirring at every little event that occurs.” ~~~ It is their right, whether you approve or not. “It does make it hard for the honest Police to perform their jobs with any authority.” ~~~ Wrong again! Videos do not stop ‘honest Police’ from doing anything! ~~~ “Every now and then, I think the criminal gets what he deserves when he gets roughed up a bit.” ~~~ And how you know that they are criminal (before a trial). ~~~ “When you see the riff-raff that these Officers have to deal with on a daily basis, it is truly amazing that more of them do not end up with broken bodies by the time they are brought in.” ~~~ Finally, we can at least partially agree.
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 5:53am
  @Georgiejo: You are right sir. I live here. I know. These idiots voted in Klobuchar, Franken and now Nolan. We have a democratic controlled state government now too. Wait until the poop hits the fan here and those who voted this batch of idiots in start crying. The state is already talking about raising taxes. Our state it talking about our property taxes going through St. Paul then to whatever school district they deem needy rather than our property taxes staying for our local districts. They also don’t want us to be able to vote on school district levies. They just want the power to raise taxes themselves without our say so.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:40am
  Burning,
  As long as they keep us seperated on small issues we’ll never unite on the real issues. That is what the government has been doing for decades. What they fear is the day the pravate citizens unite into an armed force vent on destroying their socialist government.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 7:46am
  Yea, law enforcement can do a cavity search on the side of the road, basically raping a woman in public, but we can’t record THEM. We are a police state.
  
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- Bohump
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:11am
  You take a Person’s Right’s away, .. One little chip at a time, .. That way they will not miss them, .. untill one Morning when you wake up to find you no longer have any !
  
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- 000degrees
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:26am
  These are the type of “officials” who will knock on your door when there is a law put in place to confiscate your semi-autos…..
  
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- starman70
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:41am
  HIPAA was created to prevent medical records in hospitals, doctors offices, ambulance providers and other MEDICAL facilities from being made public. It was not intended for use in a public area such as open streets, malls, stadiums and hundreds of other forums.
  
  Here, the police are totally out of line and are just looking for an excuse to cover up their possible mis-behavior.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:30pm
  “But as he recorded outside his apartment building in Little Canada, Minn., Henderson was approached by one of the deputies, Jacqueline Muellner, who then ripped the camera out of his grip.”
  
  —–
  
  This is why we have the 2nd Amendment.
  
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jamestoms
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:26pm
More evidence of Gestapo…every where you look.

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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:05am
  Gestapo wouldn’t have been corrected and punished for their errors. This deputy was.
  
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IndyGuy
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:26pm
I’m finding it harder and harder to recognize America…

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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:22pm
This is just the tip of the iceberg with this hideous ant-freedom law and we’re going to see a lot more of this BS in the near future. Thanks SCOTUS for raping the constitution and allowing a POS community agitator to establish socialized medicine that will bankrupt us,allow police to do whatever they damn well please and eviscerate the bill of rights.

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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:47pm
  Did you read the article? it has nothing to do with obamacare. it has everything to do with the police. the police very wrongfully cited HIPAA when HIPAA has nothing to do with police or this situation. and socialized medicine will not bankrupt this country. look at every other first world country! every other country has socialized medicine and have you seen Canada or Britain or Australia or Germany or Switzerland or the Netherlands or Spain or Japan or China go bankrupt?
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 9:48pm
  socialized medicine would infact help the economy quite bait. save people money that they can spend to stimulate the economy. plus health insurance companies will get some 50 million new patients!
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:05pm
  Plus I doubt you’d hear too many companies complaining about how they don’t have to pay their employees health insurance anymore. single payer system is the best option man!
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 10:54pm
  Keaton-
  I bet you’ve never been to a socialized hospital. I have, they such. European healthcare (with the exception of Germany) sucks. Euros pay 60% of their income in taxes so they can wait 2 years for minor procedures. that doesn’t even include the VAT taxes and everything they buy.
  
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- Sensible_Centrist_Democrat
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:44pm
  @Progressive Slayer:
  HIPAA was signed into law in 1996 and was sponsored by a Republican Senator. I’m confused on how this relates to Obama / the recent healthcare reform…
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 8:28am
  SENSIBLE_CENTRIST_DEMOCRAT I blame our one party system for the state of modern day Amerika because there isn’t any difference between an ‘R” or a ‘D”.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 6:49pm
  Progressive slayer.. you blamed Obama…. you now blame our “one party system” after finding out you were wrong again.
  
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drenfroe
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:11pm
Infrigement on the rigths of a citizen is what he meant and should be taken care of in a court of law by civil rights lawyer. Take a stand.

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- taxpro4u03
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:03pm
  LEARN THE LAW and what TYPE of law you’re dealing with — wonder what a 42 USC 1983 claim is and how it ‘works…’ :-)
  
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- Sensible_Centrist_Democrat
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:00am
  Section 1983 claims don’t work in purely private citizen vs. private citizen situations. 1983 allows for civil suits against entities acting under state authority who deprive an individual’s constitutional rights.
  
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- Sensible_Centrist_Democrat
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:04am
  Cancel what I said…
  I did not know you were referring to the police + the man with the camera.
  A section 1983 claim could occur if he could show that one of his constitutional rights was violated. But which right is that? 5th amendment Due Process Clause? If so, in what respect?
  First amendment?
  
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judyaz
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:09pm
My experiences of HIPPA are that when I called (both about my father in the hospital and favorite aunt who’s all alone in a nursing home) is that the medical staff wouldn’t tell me anything. I had spoken to doctors locally and needed to know blood work, etc. And I was their second closest relative (my elderly mother who has memory loss, less medical knowledge and no professional connections being closest). Dad eventually died from medical neglect, but they “did their job” and kept her only child from helping, or knowing. My aunt also died from nursing home neglect, but HIPPA was honored. If only their infections could have been treated and we could have checked in on whether they were getting physical therapy, they would have lived. But HIPPA respected their privacy by letting others prematurely kill them and keeping it from family, who was the only one who cared. I would have been allowed finally to view their ashes at the burial. (NO HIPPA rule there.)

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- afishfarted
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:14pm
  EVERYBODY !! Repeat after me:
  
  ZIEG HEIL
  
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- Gringo Lingo
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:40pm
  Hey, I went to an oral surgeon a few weeks ago to have wisdom teeth removed. When I completed the six forms containing ten thousand questions, they demanded that I submit to having my picture taken! Not a picture of my handsome smile, but a full body head to foot image. Never heard of that requirement before. Waitng for it to show up on the net, then I am going into the tooth pulling business and those shyts will be working for me!
  
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- missdagnytaggart
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 12:14am
  Sorry for your loss. I fear that your story of a love one “dying from medical neglect” will become on that is heard more often in a few years.
  
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RedheadTexan
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:06pm
I would need to see some video before I really make a judgment. I was in the French Quarter once during Mardi Gras and a friend of mine broke her ankle BADLY. The ambulance came and some jerk was filming. He kept shoving the camera in her face and trying to get close in to film her dangling foot, and the EMTs kept having to go around him. The police told him to stop and he kept saying “freedom of the press! I have a right to film!” After one of the EMTs trying to carry the stretcher to the ambulance almost tripped over him (they won’t roll over cobblestones), one of my large male friends told him exactly where he was going to put the gentleman’s camera if he didn’t move along. Morons wanting to make a buck on Youtube regularly get in the way of rescue personnel, and then claim their freedom is being infringed upon. Forgive me if I have trouble feeling sorry for this voyeuristic little weasel.

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- turbo
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:34pm
  So then why don’t you wait before making a judgement,Tex? You refer to this guy as a “voyeuristic little weasel” when you have no idea who he is. Maybe he is just standing up for citizen’s rights, maybe he has seen corrupt police abuse others rights, and is doing what he can to help injustice. From your comments one could conclude without evidence like you just did, that maybe you are just a du** as* redneck from TX. Don’t be a hypocrite.
  
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- txjb
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:37pm
  Put the broad brush away .
  
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- Obamainpeepee
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:15pm
  Turbo, I know who he is. TEX was right.
  
  ‘Nuff said.
  
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- SeekerEmerald
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:09pm
  That’s called “getting in the way” and “getting in the way” is NOT protected by any part of the constitution. Filming has NOTHING to do with it. The police can and often DO tell credentialed press where they may film/broadcast from. This may be for the safety of the officers, the safety of the press, public, or whatever else is reasonable. Even credentialed press can’t go ANYWHERE they want, ANYTIME they want. The little weasel you say in LA should have been told in no uncertain terms to “get back or go to jail.” I don’t know why the cop you had on scene didn’t want to take action. I’d have to see video of the scene to make a judgement on that.
  
  I AM totally with you on people getting in the way. If did not happen to me ever when I was driving or attending in the ambulace, but I’m sure it happens.
  
  However, if one is NOT in the way, I am all for being able to photograph/video anything in public. There are things that I personally will NOT photograph or video, and I do look down on people that do, but it shouldn’t be illegal.
  
  We can not (and should not try) to legislate manners, or even morality.
  
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breiten
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:06pm
This is why the video recording is so important for evidence of a corrupt law enforcement, judicial, and govt system to show everyone. The wicked hate their evil works exposed in the light. Look at how tyrants from other countries suppress the media and people recording their evil – same here.

Next thing is to give Time, Date, place, job, and names of those tyrants to let people know who did what and be aware. Post them.

They video and take your info into their data bases illegally, but you can do it freely as the 1st amendment.

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Too_Far_Gone
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:01pm
Rumor has it they’ll be wearing red arm bands with an “O” on them in the near future ..

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AndiAndiAndi
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:53pm
Before HIPPA it was called “confidentility”. I’ve been a nurse for almost 30 years. These HIPPA laws are B^%$##@@! All it takes is a lawyer to get a judge to sign a subpoena to request someones records. The records are sent to the lawyers office and they not only get whatever information they were looking for, but they also are privy to pap smear results, dental records and any other procedure that was done with that patient. I’m very concerned about how much easier these records will be to attain.

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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:16pm
  Absolutely agree. Just get into an accident and see how easy it is for lawyers to get your medical records, which are then public matter after a trial.
  
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Sterling Hallbrook
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:51pm
The cops were correct about the violation of privacy rights but they were wrong that it applied to them. The law would only apply to the person being medically treated. Only that person could object to the taping, even if it’s occurring in a public place. And then, even if they felt their privacy was violated, it could only be handled civilly, not in a criminal court, and would not be enforced by the cops. Nice try, flatfoots, but you blew it. But I still think the guy with the camera is a pain in the butt douche for harassing the cops.

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- Back To Reality
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:51pm
  Not true…the cops were totally wrong. A person who becomes a patient even in a public place has no expectation of privacy from the general public. The only expectation they have is that the medical providers who cared for them will not divulge any information according to the requirements listed by HIPAA. Someone who is in a car accident can complain all they want about some bystander filming them, but they have no recourse, especially in regards to HIPAA, because it only applies to healthcare workers in their capacity as a healthcare worker.
  
  And the guy was not harrassing the cops…he was standing there with a camera. Ever notice that the only one who is ever accused of “interfering” is the one with the camera? As if he were the only bystander.
  
  The charges are bogus, and the behavior of the police is the only one that is inexcusable.
  
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abeliever2010
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:51pm
During my career in law enforcement when in car video cameras were coming up officer did not want to have them in their cars. I asked many why they did not want them. I thought they were useful as I had nothing to hide and I felt that the video would be telling in situations.

I later found out that these officers were not quite the most professional.

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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:10am
  Could you share which agency you used to work for? None of the agencies in my area behave in that manner.
  
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SpankDaMonkey
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:51pm
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There was a reason we called them “Pigs” back in the day…………

Might have to start that up again………

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- Obamainpeepee
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:21pm
  How about if you just don’t. If you’re that old and that’s the kind of respect you showed during the 60′s and 70′s, then I think it is safe to assume that you should just stay home. That kind of vitriol is exactly why we have a society that believes that common decency and respect are unnecessary.
  
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BlackCrow
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:51pm
Think of how they will bully a DIS-ARMED populace. They can film you ll they want, they pay for photographs of you license plates to track your car but let a citizen film them and this is how you are treated.

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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:26am
  I know of no law enforcement officers that want a disarmed populace. Not a single one. The license plate on your car is not “yours”. It belongs to the county that issued it. Why would it matter if they photograph it?
  
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paprtowl
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:44pm
our government

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thelongversion
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:38pm
I’m beginning to worry more about the kind of people being hired into law enforcement and getting guns than I am about regular folks buying them.

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- angeleyes63
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:08pm
  @THELONGVERSION
  When the bar is lowered as much as it is due to diversity before quality it will only get worse.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:23pm
  It’s not the bar being lowered folks. I was a police officer for many years. When I started you only needed a high school education to be an officer. Within a few short years requirements suddenly became a 4 year college degree of any kind. What does that tell you? It tells you that they started weeding out those of us with common sense through attrition and replacing us with college indoctrinated idiots. I lived it and that is the reason plain and simple.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:45pm
  Did you ever consider, that all these gun buyback programs just give law enforcement thousands of “Drop Guns” Free to do whatever they want to whom ever. Thousands of guns that are “Going to be destroyed” in the hands of LEO’s everywhere. I’m not usually paranoid, but the thought just crossed my mind, and if it crossed mine……..it probably crossed someone elses.
  
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- MAX0O1
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:52pm
  LAW ENFORCEMENT is being invaded by CRIMINALS and left wing bullies AND ISLAMISTS!
  
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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:12am
  Max001: Your Sheriff is an elected position. If you don’t think he’s honest, or not hiring honest people, vote him out of office.
  
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- TreeTrimmerJim
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:20am
  @JCLDWL ~ “Within a few short years requirements suddenly became a 4 year college degree of any kind. What does that tell you?”
  
  Colleges have good lobbyists.
  
  Lawyers have college degrees, most lawyers didn’t study the Constitution or the first law of the United States in law school.
  
  Police forces like public schools are no longer locally controlled.
  
  Take a few minutes every day to study our nation’s history. Discover important history of the United States that is missing from state run public schools. Once you know, you can not become ignorant about this information again.
  
  Learn where the United States came from, what it is today and where its going if it remains on the path its on.
  
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DEFCON4
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:37pm
Just, another reason why Pelosi quipped “Have to pass the bill,so ‘We’ can find out what’s in it…..
Obama-care doesn’t seem too healthy to ‘Us’…

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- missdagnytaggart
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:42pm
  HIPPA has been in effect for quite awhile before Obummercare was even thought of.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:46pm
  Actually the HIPPA law was passed under Bush, and I feel in the most part a good law. It put some privacy firewalls between the government and your health records. Of course, Obamacare will effectively strip these away, and this female cop used the HIPPA law wrong, and should be given time off without pay for confiscating private property, and deleting the contents.
  
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- texastommy
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:48am
  Wrong, Booger. HIPPA was passed under Clinton in 1996.
  
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civilwarcometh
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:36pm
When you pass a bill that allow’s you to make up rule’s as you go along this is what you get. So how does this have to do with healthcare? It don’t and that’s not what the bill was for in the first place. It’s about communism…..You have to pass the bill first to find out what’s in it away from all the fog and controversy.

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Flag-Man
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:35pm
If you get arrested or taken for questioning.
DON”T TALK AT ALL

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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:26pm
  Absolutely don’t talk…I used to love it when people spilled their guts when I hadn’t even asked any questions. It will bite you in the butt. Especially these days.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:32pm
OK, I have an idea…..

I’ll get my Doctor to write out a prescription for a hand gun for my safety, because I’m old and can’t run away from a home intruder.

This way it will be a HIPAA violation for any newspaper to publish my “medical info” because I have a medically necessary firearm.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:39pm
  Wow Monk..
  
  That’s a really creative idea!
  
  Make ObamaCare pay for the bullets!
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:42pm
  Good one Monk
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:43pm
  Righteous idea Monk!
  
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- Jenny Lind
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:14pm
  Well done, Monk! Great idea!
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:23pm
  Good idea Monk.
  
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- holy ghostbuster
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:40pm
  Hey Monk, last time I checked, a newspaper was not a health care provider. HIPAA only applies to health care providers.
  
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- kickagrandma
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:47pm
  Will be in my doctors’ offices tomorrow getting “Mommy notes” from each of them to show when needed.
  
  GREAT IDEA, MONK!
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:49pm
  Hi holy ghostbuster,
  
  Look at it this way. HIPAA has laws. One law is that peoples medical info must be kept safe and released to the public. Like tossing medical records into the trash without shredding them “properly”.
  
  So, if a Doctor prescribes me a firearm, that becomes part of my medical record and must not be
  released into the public realm.
  
  Make sense now?
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:07pm
  @holy ghostbuster
  
  Oh, I remember you. You used to be “tikihead” right?
  
  Troll…..
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:31pm
  Yes, it is a great ideal.
  
  If a person is 60 years old they might be able to run a mile in 10 or 12 minutes, whereas a 20 year old would be able to run it in 8 minutes. That is assuming nine of them are particularly in shape.
  
  The long & short of it is that a older person cannot be expected to outrun a younger person. Therefore the expectation for them to flee a confrontation is ludicrous. That right here is a good medical reason to get a a CCW.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 8:59pm
  Hi Walkabout,
  
  I used to be a sprinter but I can’t run at all anymore. I ca walk all day at a really quick pace but the moment I take off running I can only go about 10 or 20 feet and my ankle socket separates.
  
  Not that I need to run from anyone. The issue is I can’t chase anyone either. Still, with all the back issues now-a-days any good Doctor and attorney could probably find a loophole to prescribe a gun.
  
  Last time I went shooting it was very good exercise both arms.
  
  Hey, I wonder if gun ranges could be classified as gyms? LOL
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 11:06pm
  The Monk
  
  Sorry to hear that.
  
  I always thought that in a fight or flight situation that liberals were disingenuous in saying people should or must choose flight.
  
  1st The liberals are safe & choosing a risky alternative for someone in danger. It is the ultimate in arm chair “quarterbacking”
  
  2nd They assume that you are faster than the one who want to do you harm or is doing you harm.
  
  3rd They assume that in the process of turning to run you won’t be struck from behind.
  
  These are the same people that counseled people on a hijack plane to go along with hijackers’ demands. That ended well on 911.
  
  They also counsel women to not resist rapist, because they will not kill someone who is cooperating. After all it is not like the women could identify them afterwards. I mean a prog will tell you that a criminal has never got rid of witnesses/victims ever.
  
  Whatever liberals are just mor/ns.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:12am
  Mr or Ms THE MONK,
  
  This is what you must know:
  
  The unemployed have no worker’s health insurance. That leaves self pay or the government.
  
  It is so.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 3:56pm
  @YOURSENSEI,
  
  This you need to know….
  
  Haven’t you learned it’s better NOT to mess with me Wango?
  
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LameLiberals
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:31pm
Under Bush and Obama our local police were turned into TUGS – given military training, military gear and an attitude they can break any law and the ends justifies the means. Police are no better than union thugs with a badge. Look at how the police conducted themselves with the Tea Party versus their union buddies protesting in Wisconsin. The p0olice ENFORCED the laws of getting permits and porta potties etc etc with the Tea Party to include not letting them sleep overnight at the WI capital building. BUT THE UNION TUG POLICE did NOT make their union buddy protesting WI teachers etc get permits, prot potties and they let them camp out for weeks at the capital AND did NOTING when they vandalized the building – no arrests.

The USA police are disgusting pigs.

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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:16am
  Seems that may only be the case in metro areas. But, then again, I find the general population of metro areas to have that same attitude. It’s not just the cops there that are rotten, it’s most of the population.
  
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lid.smoker
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:30pm
I think if you fight a ticket you have to pay court costs.

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:40pm
  You do but, he could file a civil suit against the officer to recoup them.
  
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Too_Far_Gone
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:28pm
Don’t trust most of today’s cops, they are islamas first line of antagonism ..

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:34pm
  Anybody who thinks the cops will be on the side of the people are delusional, the police are their to stomp your rights, not protect them.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:56pm
  And who will be at the cop’s home’s protecting their family’s when the SHTF? Where were they during the riot’s in L.A.? I don’t think the older cop’s will show up for work that day..
  
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- Exiled
  Posted on January 9, 2013 at 4:16am
  Your Sheriff is elected. If you don’t trust him, vote him out of office.
  
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justangry
Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:28pm
Is GB still defending the pigs?

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- Too_Far_Gone
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:33pm
  Don’t know , I cancelled gbtv, as he was talking about himself too much, Disney and his dog ..
  
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- getourcountryback
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 6:42pm
  Go back under your bridge…..
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 8, 2013 at 7:34pm
  @ too far
  Yep I did the same. To much sappy drama from Glenn. But he was instrumental in waking myself and my wife up to what is going on. Now it time to move on and not to Disney.
  
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