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Jan. 9, 2013 10:20pm
Krauthammer: Assault Weapons Ban Will Not Reduce Gun Violence

Charles Krauthammer (Fox News)

During Fox News’ “Special Report” Wednesday night, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer said no proposed assault weapons ban will have a significant impact on gun violence — unless the federal government is willing to violate the Constitution and confiscate all the guns.

“I think we are going to end up exactly where we started,” Krauthammer said, referring to the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004.

He said an assault weapons ban might make laws tighter, but statistics show such a ban does not actually decrease gun violence. If the U.S. were to have an “honest” debate about guns, he said, “gun owners would admit that yes, of course the guns contribute to homicide.”

Krauthammer noted that Japan had just 11 gun homicides last year, and “that’s a weekend in Chicago.”

“We have a system that believes the rights, the Second Amendment, in other words, predate the Republic,” he said. “And the point of having a government as in the Declaration is to secure the rights. In Britain you have no such right.”

“So unless you’re willing to confiscate, which would be unconstitutional and would cause an insurrection…these things are not going to have an effect, except at the margins,” he concluded.

Watch the segment via Fox News below (begins at around 1:30):

While confiscation may seem extreme, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo recently said in a radio interview that “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”

(H/T: Fox News Insider)

In CONTROL, Glenn Beck presents a passionate, fact-based case for guns that reveals why gun control isn’t really about controlling guns at all; it’s about controlling us. Find out more HERE.

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  • Mikev5
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:15pm

    Guns don’t bother me but some people that own them should not own them they treat them like a toy. I learned how to use them safely from my Dad target shooting is fun and don’t see the problems they are all talking about.

    You can’t let a few shootings cancel out what is our right to own a gun

    But if they try to remove our Constitutional rights to keep arms I will scream bloody hell

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:35pm

      the japanese are an entirely different society and it is not even close to fair to compare the 2

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    • CatB
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:36pm

      January 19th … National Gun Appreciation Day .. support by going to a gun store, shooting range, etc.

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:38pm

      just another random thought………..how about compairng chicago to say salt lake city or kennesaw georgia

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    • USNavyVetPatriot
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:58pm

      Japan is safer – but what you don’t ever hear about is the fact that when you are arrested, you are likely to be convicted – their due process is not like ours, people think if the police arrested you, you probably are guilty.

      The police also conduct home visits and other things we would never stand for here… “The nail that stands up gets hammered down…”

      http://www.nationmaster.com/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

      http://www.davekopel.com/2A/Foreign/Japan-Gun-Control-and-People-Control.htm

      For such a regulated item (guns) on an island nation that has limited immigration, they still had 47 homicides by guns… and their Yakuza and political parties are in bed with each other… do we really want to pattern ourselves after them?

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:05am

      I stopped at wally world in Brooksville Fl, Their ammo is sold out!!!
      Charles says there will be problems around the fringes…I think the Fringe will be all over the nation!!!

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    • TiffanyRuth
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:09am

      The Japanese are a different society, they are respectful of each other. Americans have lost it, we over medicate kids to make raising them easier and therefore they grow up to be monsters, they all believe they are living in a reality show and then we wonder why they do such destructive things. As a CCP holder I am all for stronger gun control laws. Just because the constitution guarantees the right to bear and keep arms does not mean than every American is sane and responsible enough to own one.

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:13am

      Our Government butchered more children in WACO, than was killed in Conneticut.

      Lisa Martin 13 – Sheila Martin, Jr. 15
      Rachel Sylvia 12 – Hollywood Sylvia 1
      Joseph Martinez 8 – Abigail Martinez 11
      Crystal Martinez 3 – Isaiah Martinez 4
      Audrey Martinez 13 – Melissa Morrison 6
      Chanel Andrade 1 – Cyrus Koresh 8
      Star Koresh 6 – Bobbie Lane Koresh 2
      Dayland Gent 3 – Page Gent 1
      Mayanah Schneider 2 – Startle Summers 1
      Serenity Jones 4 – Chica Jones 2
      Little One Jones 2

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    • michaelmoron
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:19am

      @TiffanyRuth

      Who is going to determine whether someone is “sane and responsible” enough ?

      What if someone determined that you were not sane and responsible enough ?

      What if you were murdered the next day because you didn’t have your gun to protect yourself ?

      You know, if guns are outlawed, we are going to hear stories of people that were murdered from the EXACT scenario I just mentioned.

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    • Pigpen
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:29am

      How about cars, MIKEV5? Should certain people not be allowed to own cars? Cars kill more people in a year than guns do.

      So why is it that HANDGUNS are the biggest culprit both in accidental gun deaths and homicides, but ASSAULT WEAPONS are banned? DUH! Because I have ZERO chance of using a friggin’ HANDGUN to defend my HOME from warrantless searches, to guard my year supply of FOOD from confiscation, or to homeschool my CHILDREN away from the state mandated LGBT “training” enforced by either the NATIONAL GUARD or the local SWAT, but I just might give the SOBs a pause for thought with an ASSAULT WEAPON. Why does the government want to take ASSAULT WEAPONS when HANDGUNS do most of the damaging crimes about which they are talking on the news and in the Congress? Hmmm? Why is Freedom of Speech so sacred that “torture porn” is a protected “right” and burning the US flag is downright PATRIOTIC, but owning a gun under the 2ND AMENDMENT means you are a dirty R3DN3CK? WAKE THE $&%# UP! They SOBs are DISARMING YOU! What do you think they will do next when all the “assault weapons” are “off the streets”? They will do whatever the H3LL they want, that is what! WAKE UP! DEFEND YOURSELVES! I have ZERO respect for the pot-smoking, child molesters on Capitol Hill. And they are ALL druggie perverts, I don’t care WHAT PARTY they represent. Don’t believe? Go look up your local Congressman on the CRAIG’S LIST PERSONALS!

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:50am

      OLDGUY.. the japanese have far more violent video games and tv shows/ movies.. and their an atheist nation… with an equal amount of mentally troubled people… kind of blows every other argument out of the water huh?

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:53am

      USNAVYVETPATRIOT Japan conviction rate 97% U.S. conviction rate 85% different… but not by that much

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    • Keatonc33
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:00am

      Michaelmoron… NO ONE!!! and I mean NO ONE has even talked about outlawing or confiscating guns… except conservative talking heads. no one in power liberal or conservative supports that! dial back the fear my friend.

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    • Tipdog
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:19am

      There is no provision in the Second Amendment that dictates one must be “sane” or “responsible” to own a gun. The right is not to be infringed upon and using such broad terms is a slippery slope to tyranny.

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    • tonypro
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:45am

      Another VERY misleading title.

      Krauthammer is not calling for gun confiscation, he is merely making a point. Unless I misunderstood.

      He actually made the point that gun bans don’t work.

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    • johnpaulkuchtajr
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:34am

      Talk of some sort of executive order by Obama to restrict or “change” our guns laws seems to be just the up-front portion of his attempt to make us live like cows.
      If you read both of the attached stories, it’s pretty clear that being a well-known weapons expert in the civilian sector is becoming very hazardous to your health. Am I reading too much into the deaths of two renowned weapons experts in just one week? Traffic accidents are one thing; but, a single bullet to the head is quite another. That death reminds me of the deaths of three openly gay members of Jeremiah Wright’s congregation between November and December 31, 2007. Oh, did I mention that the Chicago police have no leads?
      As far as I’m concerned, it’s started.

      http://beforeitsnews.com/survival/2013/01/john-noveske-founder-of-noveske-rifleworks-will-be-missed-2456002.html

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2259190/Keith-Ratliff-Popular-online-guns-explosives-expert-shot-death-rural-Georgia-road.html

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:17am

      California approved handgun safe.

      http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=34a_1317870586

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:23am

      Planned simce 2006:

      http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2013/01/07/obama-blueprint-disarming-americans?utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20FoxNation%20%28Fox%20Nation%29&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

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    • naughtycal
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:52am

      Krauthammer can’t see the forest for the tree. In order to confiscate guns the federal government will cease being the of the people by the people and for the people….in short it will cease being American and thus will become an enemy of the Republic……All act of agression against a federal confiscation will be acts of war by American against an enemy. All soldiers will have the protection of the geneva convention. It time for each state to militia up unite and show Washington what’s in store for them.

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    • Techcon
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:40am

      Is there an ACLU in Japan protecting the psychos?

      No, I didn’t think so.

      Case closed.

      Move along.

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    • pdw
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:43am

      This is what happens when the hippies of the 60′s who hated their daddies money got control of his money and power.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:07am

      They cannot remove rights. Rights come from “Natures God” and have nothing to do with government. The entire point of the BOR was to *safeguard* existing rights, not to give us rights.

      Gun confiscation is a fantasy of the left, and it is best left in the realm of fantasy. The word “insurrection” is far too gentle a word to describe what would actually happen.

      I’ll be frank about this, if they try to outlaw and confiscate firearms, that means that I am illegal no matter what I do, so why then should I continue to follow *any* rules, especially ones regarding items that currently require signatures and a tax stamp? See where I’m going with this?

      The lawless at the head of the occupation government have no interest in our rights. We should stop having interest in their clearly lawless edicts that they laughingly tell us are “laws”.

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    • Robert Treat Paine
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:37am

      I’d take that a step further. If there are some people who shouldn’t own guns, aren’t there some who shouldn’t be allowed children? How about we confiscate their children and neuter the would be parents?That might be more effective in stopping mental illness and crime.

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    • YOURSENSEI
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:41am

      Mr or Ms OLDGUY49,

      This is what you must know:

      Salt Lake City citizens consume more porn than Chicago.

      It is so.

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    • YOURSENSEI
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:43am

      Mr or Ms GHOSTOFJEFFERSON,

      This is what you must know:

      “Nature’s God” = a dead man in court. All heirs can claim but none can prove.

      It is so.

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    • Uechi
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:01am

      You can scream till you are blue in the face it will do nothing. There are other scenarios unfortunately they all shed blood.

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    • GuruMeditation
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:04am

      @GhostOfJefferson: Agreed. It’s illogical to think that one can remove God given rights. It’s much akin to thinking laws can prevent evil. God knew such when he issued the 10 commandments. But then he offered His Son so as not to be hypocritical and to provide salvation to the masses. Free will reigns. As it should be. Believe.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:08am

      @Sensei

      Honestly, you’re a clown. You’re trying to establish patterned style, but it’s kind of silly. You can’t be taken seriously, since you don’t address topics or individuals seriously. Simply put, you are not as smart as you think you are. Sorry kid.

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    • ishka4me
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:42am

      On April 18th 1775 Brittish troops garrisoned in Boston marched to Concord Massachusetts to confiscate arms and ammunition… how did that work out. My liberal exfriends think it started because the brittish went to grab tea or stamps. They can not tell the difference between a right such as the second ammendment or a law like the time the bars close or posted speed limits for public saftey. The left is confusing the difference between laws and rights on this issue, but then Our President who swears his oath to the Constitution also calls it a “charter of negative liberties” I feel we are living in a fiction novel because reality is just hard to believe.

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    • YOURSENSEI
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:05am

      Mr or Ms GHOSTOFJEFFERSON,

      This is what you must know:

      Yours is avoidance behavior. Arguments extending not beyond ad hominem haikus.

      It is so.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:11am

      Oh poor sensei. You’re now on the “do not bother to read” list. Too bad you can’t break out of your own narcissism enough to realize a losing technique. Your loss.

      Slainte! :)

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    • YOURSENSEI
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:21am

      Mr or Ms GHOSTOFJEFFERSON,

      This is what you must know:

      “A very clever tactical retreat” – Captain Renault to Major Strasser. I accept your surrender.

      It is so.

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    • Independent4233
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:26am

      “Krauthammer noted that Japan had just 11 gun homicides last year, and “that’s a weekend in Chicago.”

      The Japanese also do not have a large violent black community that, according to FBI stats, commit 58% of all violent crime, with gang bangers and others in the black community accounting for 77% of all gun violence.

      Since the Japanese are an orderly group of people who believe in contributing to society…not kill people or sell dope to get what they want…the comparison by the neocon Krauthammer is pure nonsense. Japan has low crime and gun deaths, because they are intelligent and have better morals, not because they have guns.

      This Krauthammer is supposed to be a super high I.Q. type, but after the nonsensical views he’s been expressing recently about the gun issue now and the evaluation of the election earlier I’m not in the least impressed now with ANY of his views on anything.

      Whether it’s this neocon character, Bill O’Reilly or Bernie Goldeberg or other neocons, it is their immature, out-of-touch views as individuals in privileged positions that could well be responsible for their ignorance.

      They’re only conservative and sensible when it comes to supporting policies that protect their massive wealth.

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    • planecrashlaw
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:39pm

      Pigpen:

      The fact that you would kill someone over something as ridiculous your supposed right “to homeschool [your] CHILDREN away from the state mandated LGBT “training is the best reason for you to not be allowed to possess one to begin with. If all it takes for you to want to kill is a fear of people with a different sexual orientation than you, then perhaps you need something, like professional help. But access to weapons?

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    • kadster01
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:58pm

      You will never put the genie back in the bottle. Guns are not going away. If you confiscate them from law-abiding citizens – the only ones who can be verified as gun owners – only the unlawful will have guns. That’s simple logic. Furthermore, the technology is there to make more or get them some other way. There is no stopping it.

      What America has is a cultural dilemma. That, and a double standard in regard to illegal drugs vs. alcohol. Much of the gun violence is centered around gangs and illegal drugs. Ending alcohol prohibition, by and large, put a stop to gun violence in regard to alcohol. It has been replaced by gun violence in regard to illegal drugs, which is arguably far worse than that relative to alcohol. That’s just one example.

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    • wordsofwisdom
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:03pm

      I hope all you gun control people get educated. We have a divided people and either we stand together or we fall apart. We can’t stop the self destruction from happening with more divisions! This is the way you concur a nation! Division! Because division self destructs just like we are doing. This song is about diversity’s danger’s.
      “Diversity” http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11826046

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    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:45pm

      Jefferson, this is what is called harassment. I’ve seen Wango aka Sensei follow you from topic to topic making smart aleck remarks about everything you say.

      You have the right to report him, exercise it. Maybe we will get lucky this time and the mods will finally ban the IP address of this menace once and for all.

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    • Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:33pm

      “During Fox News’ “Special Report” Wednesday night, syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer said no proposed assault weapons ban will have a significant impact on gun violence — unless the federal government is willing to violate the Constitution and confiscate all the guns.”

      Like Mao’s 45 millions murdered by their government (in 4 years!), like Hitler’s 11 millions murdered by his government, like Stalin’s 10′s of millions murdered, like all the the dictators (can you say … Obama?).

      The stage has been set (by whom?). And America is waiting for that first shot (by whom?).
      Beware the puppet show …

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    • starman70
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:10pm

      One reason Japan never tried to attack America is that the commanders knew that there would literally be a gun behind every tree. Same would have applied to the Germans.

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  • Dano.50
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:07pm

    Comparing across cultures is a pretty hard thing to do as different peoples take different stances on things.

    Suicide is an example. I think the stat in the U.S. is 12/100,000 commit suicide, and of that 55% is committed by gun.

    Japan may have had only 11 murders by gun, but their suicide rate is nearly double because it is still considered an honorable way to solve certain problems. They are trying to get rid of this belief, but that fact alone is enough to skew things.

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    • Witness1974
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:32am

      Japan is a homogeneous society; America is not. A Japanese person can become an American, but try moving over there and becoming Japanese. As everyone has said here, the comparison is inapt.

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    • TheGreatMan
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:02pm

      Is not japan a racist society? How many blacks are allowed to immigrate? Africans? Latino’s? etc.

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  • tnman65
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:07pm

    My guns can’t be confiscated. They were all stolen while I was on vacation. I was going to report it to the local authorities but I forgot. Search if you want but you won’t find anything. Also it was a weird coincidence that all of my relatives had theirs stolen also. Sorry we have nothing to turn in.

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    • txannie
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:20pm

      Ditto….

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    • oldguy49
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:36pm

      they hit your house too…………….

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    • tnman65
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:37pm

      Wait a minute. My memory isn’t that good anymore. I think maybe I sold all of them. He looked like a nice guy to me. What, you mean he hasn’t registered them yet. He said he was going to. If I ever see him again I’ll tell him to hurry up. So sorry for the confusion.

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    • Fla.Patriot
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:38pm

      Yep, it’s a regular crime wave. I was sooo bummed that mine were stolen

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    • txrich
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:03am

      That thief must get around, got mine also.

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    • DaMule1977
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:34am

      Sold mineout for giftthe cards before christmas at a buy back program. Sorry guys, i didn’t know I might have to report that to anyone…i was told there would be no questions asked.

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    • Ar-shooter
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:42am

      Traded mine for a iPad….!

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    • OlefromMN
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:27am

      There must be an organized ring that knows when we are away. Mine too were stolen and with the tight budgets the police departments run, I simply did my civic duty and did not report so I would not tie up valuable resources.

      Perhaps Biden could go looking for this band of marauders that have been taking all the guns.

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    • Mapache
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:57am

      same thing happened to me! what a coincidence.

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    • Ceefour
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:28am

      The British army,in Ireland ,became quit adept at finding hidden guns and explosives and there are many manuals on that subject. One of their techniques was to tear down a whole house if they suspected hidden guns…or dig up the surrounding land. They got so good at it that they said they knew where you were going to hide you guns before you even did it. Be that as it is..they only found maybe 25%. With experience,the people became more expert at hiding then did the army in finding…..

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    • HollisBrown
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:07am

      Wow!! Members here on the blaze are some real tough individuals, “My guns were stolen”? “I sold them”? “Traded them for a gift card”? You bunch of wimps, Rather then stick up for whats right, you members here have made the decision to coward down as opposed to standing together and refusing to surrender your arms that your forefathers fought for. Stop and ask yourself what would jefferson had said after the 2nd ammnendment was written, ” Hey if they come for your guns just tell them they were stolen”. and to think they shed blood for you and your family, im here to tell everyone on this forum that any of you who made this comment is nothing shy of a Mommas Boy. You stand at the front door and you refuse to surrender your gun, if they engage in gun battle, then so it be. Life is worthless if freedoms are confiscated. You organize now and get a game plan, you form your own millitia, You can do this but it takes an effort. Unite together and head to washington, you protest right there until they cant take it no more. Thats what a true America does.

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    • CynicalPatriot
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:16am

      Stolen guns, that’s real cute. If you aren’t willing to use them when they come to confiscate, then what’s the point of keeping them? Over the last few years Glenn said many times that you better know what you believe because your back will be up against the wall. That time may have finally come.

      I can only speak for myself. I’m not part of a group that can muster on the town square like Lexington and Concord. I’ve lived a pretty sweet life, but if I cling to it by participating in the destruction of America and the Constitution, which is what I’d be doing if I just hand over the guns when they come for them, I won’t be able to enjoy whatever is left of life after that.

      The only way to defeat a confiscation program is to make it expensive for the tyrant, one house at a time. That means I will die when they come for my guns, because they’ll keep sending cops until they take me down, but I’ll kill as many as I can before that happens. The consolation is that any cop who participates in this insanity is by definition a BAD COP, so you don’t need to cry for them. “Just following orders” didn’t work at Nuremberg, and it won’t work now.

      If a few gun owners create a high law enforcement body count through defensive action, more cops will refuse to participate in gun raids, and the tide will turn. This can only begin with individuals who’re willing to do it.

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    • GhostOfJefferson
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:19am

      So your answer to your rights is to pretend that you no longer exercise them? What kind of cowardice is that? I don’t mean offense here, but if anybody comes a-confiscating firearms, that is PRECISELY the time to USE your firearm. Hiding and cowering may allow you to keep a firearm, in a tube, in the ground, that you’ll forevermore be afraid to be seen with, and nothing more.

      If you can’t stand and fight for your rights at the moment it’s most critical, you might as well turn in your firearms now.

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    • milo75
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:56am

      Hollis brown your guerilla style stand will be effective but only for people to read about in the news. How many will you get when they storm your house while your in bed with fully atomatic weapons and bullet proff vests and 12 flash lights in your face taking away your vision to aim. I would rather see and organized militia that can effectively take it to the ememy strategicaly. You will need more guns and ammo to fight a long war. The enemies will have more advaced weapons so we will have to effectively conficate theirs as they fall. Going out in a blaze of glory is not the way to win a war,Its what you do when theres no option left.

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    • Xiccarph
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:10pm

      I’m rather amused, if not appalled, at the “wimp” vs “shoot ‘em when they come” argument. Doesn’t anyone here think about tactics? Do you really believe that if it comes to “Authorities” going house to house seizing guns that all you have to do to “win” is try and shoot them at your door? Really?!? Is that how you do a revolution, resist tyranny or whatever; a last-stand for your no-longer-recognized “Rights”. Let them pick you off one by one…that is what they’d LOVE you to do…they’d be on easy street! Do you really think that “They” give a hoot if whomever they send gets shot at? “They” have the Power of Ultimate Force…they can and will do anything and use anything to take you out quietly, quickly, neatly and sleuthy….and yep, they have the manpower and technology to do it safely and completely Out Of Your Sight. Your One Man Stand to show how tough you are will just be another “Terrorist killed while resisting Police/Military investigation” propaganda news story. Standing up for your rights did a lot of good at Waco or at Randy Weaver’s place, didn’t it? Come on….secrecy, organization, communication, common defense. If this ever begins it will be during some REALLY BAD TIMES, think TaCtIcS people. Geeze.

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    • lketchum
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:32pm

      @CynicalPatriot

      Yes Sir!, that’s the way it must be, if any of those that survive will ever again live free and enjoy the liberty so many of us fought so hard for. It’s heart breaking for sure that this is where we have arrived at, but I see no choice – I cannot live in any land that is not truly free. It’s just not in me to cow, much less bow down to tyranny. At least my family will know that everything I tried to teach them was for real – that I really lived the words I spoke and gave oath to. To do otherwise would be so much worse than falling at the hands of despots. “Look Good, Lead from the Front, and Die Well!” That’s all any of us can do.

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  • Texaslockstar
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:03pm

    Confiscation is not a option. Anyone who tries it can be and will be charged with high treason. So knowing that , it is a impeachable offence obama, want to try your luck against the people ?

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    • lisalake
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:49am

      Treason has been committed numerous times these past years without charges… just sayn’

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    • jamestoms
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:59am

      I wouldn’t be in the government or a cop in light of this today, their butts are in really hot water now.

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  • charles116
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:01pm

    I just love the way the Foxfolk love to feed the paranoia.

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    • M13
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:09pm

      I love the way you feed us your complete stupidity, good job.

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    • OurFoundingFather
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:21pm

      leave the fox people alone you bully – why are you infesting our ‘community’ – take your liberal ways and go bond with your own ‘kind’

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    • RationalMan
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:31pm

      charles116
      I just love the way the Foxfolk love to feed the paranoia
      _________________________________________________

      Me: How?

      Please explain, I’m just curios…..

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    • RationalMan
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:50pm

      charles116,
      Have you ever heard of, “Aristotle Latern”? Are you not for, Right for Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness?

      It’s your choice!!!!

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    • subic
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:03am

      So what are people to do CHARLIE, become a complete lemming like yourself and fellow trolls?

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    • katzkiner
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:10am

      Anybody have some disinfectant, I think we have a Charles fungus.

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    • RationalMan
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:10am

      charles116,
      I know you’re reading our post charles116, what happen?????

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    • charles116
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:25am

      No one is taking away anyone’s guns.
      No one is coming to GET YA!

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    • SAVETHEUNION
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:24pm

      And in Germany when hitler took the guns there were fools like you saying the same thing.

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  • TSUNAMI_22
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:00pm

    Normally I agree with Krauthammer, but this time he’s off his wheelchair.

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  • lid.smoker
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:59pm

    Farthammer is a psychiatrist. I wonder why he doesn’t seem to say much about kids treated with psychotropic drugs? Are the Japanese kids taking an equal amount of the same drugs? If so then blaming the drugs is invalid, but if there is much less use of the drugs that American docs dope up the nut kids with, then we should probably partially blame the drugs (and the docs?)

    And of course it’s obvious that there aren’t many black trouble makers in Japan..

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    • ron2win
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:30am

      @ charles

      Like you dove in to here ,with out a brain huh ?

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    • jamestoms
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:22am

      Ever watch “48 Hours” on TV, 95% Black crime, murders, think that says something!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • Mil-Dot
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:15am

      Its not the “drugs”, come on. These psychos had serious brain diseases WAY before they took any drugs. DNA mistakes happen. Some people are just born F ‘d up in the head. Don’t create yet another straw man argument for them to justify their confiscation criminality. It will only deny millions of good people their God given rights. It is a ruse, a red-herring, a lie.

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    • Welcome Black Carter
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:23am

      Blacks only contribute 53% of firearms related murders in the US.
      Strange since they are only 12% of the population, I know…

      If you really want to take a bite out of firearms related murders, consider that 75% of them are commited by democrats.

      Sandy hook shooter, democrat…

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  • John 1776
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:50pm

    Ummm… The problem is, without guns, the constitution fails. We will go the route of many other nations with a ruling class and the serfdom class. This was the point of the second amendment, it had nothing to do with hunting. The founders knew this.

    We have reached a point where the tyrants are so close to tyranny that they can almost taste it. The only thing stopping them is the potential of citizen gun owners. They will work hard to get rid of that final roadblock.

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    • hjablo
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:12am

      The Framers wrote our constitution to protect us against the tyranny of the government. King George was a tyrant and we got rid of him, yet the Framers still included an armed citizenry as part of the Constitution. You talk about an entrenched group of folks, try limiting abortions to some people and it isn’t even mentioned in our Constitution.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:50pm

    Japan had 11 homicides with guns. They had many more homicides than that.

    The also have a homogeneous population. When compared to the U.S. they are the complete opposite of diversity.

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    • Lt_Scrounge
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:22pm

      They also have a population wherein the bulk of the society would rather commit suicide than dishonor their family by being accused of a crime. They have a society where the very idea of being a parasite is frowned upon. Both of which are not the case here. Perhaps Krauthammer should tell the lady in Georgia who shot the career criminal who broke into her home with a crowbar how much safer she and her kids would have been without that handgun she shot him with. Perhaps Krauthammer should look at the estimated 1 MILLION plus people who use handguns annually to defend themselves against attack and tell them they would be much better off being beaten or stabbed to death. Liberals who hate guns are just someone who hasn’t been attacked and/or realized that they are defenseless without a means of protecting themselves.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:10am

      LT Scrounge
      You are correct. I forgot that. Japanese go to such extremes not to dishonor their family that they commit suicide carefully.

      CAREFUL SUICIDE
      It used to be sure way of committing suicide in Japan by jumping off buildings. Inevitably some jumpers hit innocent bystanders. This brought shame on the suicides family. So future people contemplating & carrying out suicide were careful from the places they jumped not to hurt innocent bystanders. There are news stories on the phenomenon.

      But apparently one note SendtheMeteors wants to bang firearms as being a proximate cause for murder.

      If it were 2 island nations with gun control should have the same murder rate. They don’t.
      QED

      P.S. These people are unclean. Their minds, their principles, make them unclean.

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  • SUNTZU
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:49pm

    Knife,ball bat,icepick,hammers ,ax,bic pens(and they still write) frying pan.
    high heels,autos,(cars) Rubber ducks,big-mac.soap,rope,soap on a rope,
    coat hangers,pit bulls,running bulls,msnbc-bull,me,you,progressives,paper
    190,std’s,chevy volts,bucken colts,50cent-crack-hoes,
    and on,and on, and on,etc.
    Life is the major cause of death,
    let us out law it.
    Signed;Your obama healthcare administrator.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:59pm

      Okay Charles let me debunk your statements.
      he said, “gun owners would admit that yes, of course the guns contribute to homicide.”

      No the guns do not contribute anything they are an inanimate objects and it requires a person for it to work. The gun is what the person used but in no way was involved in his decision to use it as it has no mind of it’s own. Unless of course you are Sledgehammer and have a talking gun.

      Krauthammer noted that Japan had just 11 gun homicides last year, and “that’s a weekend in Chicago.”
      Great choice Chicago has some of if not the strictest gun control laws in the country…and you use it as an example. Thank you, you make our point.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:02pm

      An Islamic terrorist put a pen thru the eye socket of his defense lawyer causing her brain damage.

      SO I think we should ban pens. Banning terrorists by locking them up or executing then won’t solve the problem. At least using lib logic.

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  • AxelPhantom
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:49pm

    NRA list of businesses and individuals promoting anti-gun legislation:
    Includes some names, addresses and phone numbers.

    http://www.shtfmovement.com/topic19104.html
    Do with it what you wish…..

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    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:59pm

      Sorry, here’s the direct link.

      http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/01/the-big-list-gun-haters-in-america/

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    • Al J Zira
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:33am

      That’s a long list and I’ll bet incomplete. I’m sure, given the opportunity, every college and university in the country would sign onto that list.

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    • jcldwl
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:47am

      @ Axel
      Thanks for the list. Was just reading all the hypocrite names in Hollywood. Sylvester Stallone must be one of the biggest considering he has made millions off of his movies filled with guns and violence. Of course I guess when you can’t act or direct so who cares but still a major hypocrite as well as many others.

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  • Guitar Master
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:48pm

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
    From THE REPORTER
    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Who cares what KrautHammer thinks anyway, he’s just another “talking head,” albeit a relatively smart one.
    All these people want to do is influence the public viewpoint with their own convoluted theories.

    What really matters is what YOU think and whether you want to relinquish your beloved 2nd Amendment rights to protect yourself and your country from tyranny.

    It’s time to shut off the news, cancel your cable subscriptions and stop allowing these birds to influence you.

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  • Walkabout
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:47pm

    Homicide where gun are used are 60% of homicide. But taking away guns will not cut homicides by 60%. It might cut it 30 or 40% in the short to medium term & then after a while the homicide & would rise again & the crime rate would definitely rise.

    The British data id you look at it from a long enough time horizon does not support the liberal fantasy that no guns equals less crime or fewer homicides.

    The English homicide rate is pretty constant from 1857 to 993

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  • Helpful
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:47pm

    If they Confiscate Guns they will start something that will effect the entire Nation? If they do away with the 2nd amendment, then they do away with all of them, one backs the other.

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  • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:47pm

    I love how they keep talking about permits, and of course that will cost money to exercise a right, but making someone show ID to vote, oh no, that is a constitutional violation. So how much would this permit cost? It better not be more than a drivers license, or they are infringing and exacting a “Poll Tax” for me to exercise a right granted by our constitution. What’s next, a prayer permit, a speech fee.

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  • truthnstuff
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:46pm

    Krauthammer is a smart man, but he is a psychiatrist and they are part of the problem. I don’t think Japan can be used as a comparison because the Japanese culture is not even remotely comparable.Statistic after statistic show that gun bans do not work, ie Chicago. Where guns are plentiful, less gun violence. This issue has nothing to do with gun violence. It is about the enslaving the proletariat.

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    • Walkabout
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:59pm

      Japan & Britain both ban guns.

      So why does Japan have a homicide rate of .4 & Britain a rate of 1.2. Britain is 3 times worse than Japan. So by a liberal line of thinking the laws in Britain must be 3 times more lenient than Japan? (We are have a homicide rate 3 time that of Britain at 4.2.)

      In Britain 39 to 80 people have been killed by guns in recent years. In Japan it is 11. So Britain must be 4 to 7 times worse than Japan. Their laws must suck.

      Obviously there is more at work here than just firearms. It is culture, it is age cohorts, etc.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

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    • Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:46pm

      What nobody has mentioned is it is also illegal to carry a knife more than 4″ in Britian, and yet people are still mugged with knives. Those pesky criminals just won’t follow the rules.

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  • glennrocks
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:44pm

    211 children were killed by drunk drivers last year. Lets ban Alcohol.

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    • Trigus
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:57pm

      47 people killed by subway trains in NY City last year – lets ban subway trains – Do you know what the problem is with these gun control freaks? They have no factual evidence to back up their claims.

      I challenge all those wanting to ban firearms – any type – Please place a white poster board sign on your front door with 6 inch black letters stating: “NO GUNS INSIDE OUR RESIDENCE” and leave it there for 2 weeks. Get back to us in 2 weeks and let us know how you feel about Firearms?

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    • booger71
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:22pm

      There were 2 people killed this year by getting thrown under a subway in NYC, that is 2 more than I have killed this year, bun gun or any other method.

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  • Bodacious_Boedi
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:38pm

    It may start out as a confiscation, but there is NO police department on the planet that can control the populace once an insurrection starts…..be it Mayberry or NYC, cops lose!! Sure, they’ll taser, tear gas, rubber bullet and in NY probably kill a few people. Cops in NY hit civilians as a matter of course. But in the long run, once the masses see what’s going on, the cops don’t have a prayer. Now, this spreads to other cities…..the same overwhelming of the police…..the national guard is scrambled except these guys have to be back at Wal Mart on Monday and they don’t want any trouble.

    Not you’ve got the military, caught with an unConstitutional grab and denial of rights who’s sworn to defend said Constitution against all enemies….foreign and domestic….or even Kenyan.

    btw…with my POS Mosin Nagant I can get a clean 500 yard shot with just the iron sights.

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    • cemerius
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:45pm

      I like my 800 yd with iron sights…..AR-10……

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    • DaMule1977
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:45am

      Ok guys, you take the close in shots, I’ll take the mile with my M21. Lol

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    • TimKan7719
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:00am

      I will also join in. But I will have borrowed an M106A6 From base, with as much ammo and I can tow. you guys take the close targets I will go for the ones really really far… Dont think all the military will stand idlely by while they also stop on our rights

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  • am123
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:35pm

    The liberal establishment are trying to create a false momentum, engaging in a full court press to control or confiscate guns. And if they don’t get what they want, look for another “lone gunman” incident to take place—surprise surprise—to increase their momentum. And the national media will swallow hook, line, and sinker, the “official storyline” of a lone gunman. Watch out America, evil is at work behind the scenes.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:49pm

      At this point, their momentum doesn’t matter. Lexington and Concord was the final straw for the 1st revolution, so it is only appropriate that gun confiscation sets off the second as well. Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it, and our government is repeating to the errors of King George. Actually, our government is way worse than King George’s.

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  • InfiniteSolutions
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:33pm

    Krauthammer can compare us with other countries all he wants, he’s entitled to his opinion. In some ways, from a utopia perspective there’s some half truths. It seems to me that Krauthammer is more of a liberal on this subject and not a constitutionalist. The reasons why we are not England is because we have the right to bare arms. Let’s not get suckered down this kind of talk. We could make a difference by placing guns with right people in any public gathering area. At least to defend ourselves against these crazies.

    Why are so many folks negative over guns, they are used in many positive ways too, such as hunting or defending yourself. Yes, there’s been some crazy incidents in the last two decades but our society is degrading too, a sign of the times. Maybe we ought to look at root causes within our own society first, all the violence on TV, Hollywood, Media – it’s all negative. Like this subject, all negative and nothing about why we have the 2nd amendment, which is positive. Power to the people and down with Tyranny, don’t tread on me buster………….

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    • Bodacious_Boedi
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:40pm

      NONE of your reasons for the “degradation” of our society bears scrutiny or logic.

      The media just makes it SEEM like we’re circling the drain, being as they can handpick their stories. Mass communication and the instant ItHappenedNOW phenomena is the true enemies of this Republic and the people willing to sensationalize/politicize it.

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  • The_Almighty_Creestof
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:31pm

    You could always have the military go door to door in every well known gangbanger/drug infested/high crime neighborhood and confiscate THEIR guns that they should not have…but Nooooo…that might offend some hoodrat lawyer.

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  • GuruMeditation
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:30pm

    It’s not about hunting ****, err, I mean Cuomo.

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  • Tri-ox
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:28pm

    You had better believe that obama is going to launch a full-blown gun confiscation program – count on it.

    Note to government ‘gun confiscators’: always stand directly in front of the muzzle and grab the weapon by the barrel. (wink-wink).

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    • Wolf
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:37pm

      “…If the U.S. were to have an “honest” debate about guns, he said, “gun owners would admit that yes, of course the guns contribute to homicide.”.

      Wrong- ‘gun owners don’t admit any such foolishness. Homicides are committed by insane democrats who think that guns should be outlawed from society as God has been.

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    • Rob in Katy
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:43pm

      I reject your reality and substitute my own… and will keep my guns.

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  • IndyGuy
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:28pm

    Obama is revolting…Why aren’t you???

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    • Wolf
      Posted on January 9, 2013 at 11:03pm

      ‘Cuz I’[m too busy upchucking every time I hear his voice or see pix of him on the Blaze and elsewhere….

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    • Desertcatn
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:51am

      I know that feeling, I turn the channel every time he comes on; he’s a cyborg, creepy!

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    • sparkyrules
      Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:43am

      How dare you insult our Dear Leader Black Messiah, BLASPHEMERS!

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  • GuruMeditation
    Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:27pm

    No government led my humans are capable of confiscating all the guns.

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