The gun control debate is often highly-emotional, with both sides throwing out statistics in an effort to sway Americans to either side of the aisle. Since the Sandy Hook shooting last month, CNN’s Piers Morgan has emerged as a vocal proponent for increased gun control laws. This week, after Morgan’s very public, on-air spat with radio host Alex Jones, Ben Swann, a local Fox anchor for WXIX-TV in Cincinnati, offered up a fascinating fact-check of some of the stats that the British CNN host has been using. Morgan will surely find the results unpalatable.
Swann tackled a litany of statistics, but took particular aim at one number that Morgan has repeatedly mentioned in recent days. During his exchange with Jones, the CNN host alleged that Great Britain only had 35 gun-related murders in 2011 compared to 11,000 that unfolded in the U.S. during that same timeframe. Swann, though, debunked this claim, delving deeply into crime statistics to make better sense of the numbers.

Ben Swann, a local Fox anchor for WXIX-TV, fact checks CNN host Piers Morgan’s gun claims (Photo Credit: WXIX-TV)
“There were 12,664 homicides in the U.S. Of those 8,583 were caused by firearms,” he explained in a video posted on WXIX-TV’s web site. “But of those, 400 are listed as justifiable homicide by law enforcement — 260 justifiable homicide by private citizens.”
Based on this analysis, Morgan’s claim that 11,000 people died needlessly in the U.S. as a result of poor gun control measures seems to fall flat (the number is lower, however it is still higher than Great Britain’s — so, on that point, Morgan has some standing). Swann continued, noting that the CNN host is also wrong about his claim that only 35 firearm deaths unfolded in Great Britain — a figure which is actually closer to 59, the reporter alleged.
Swann noted that those like Morgan who seek greater gun control measures lose their argument when they claim that “fewer guns equals less crime.” To make this point, he explored the crime rates in Great Britain, the U.S. and other nations around the globe.
“The U.S. has the highest gun ownership in the world…[making it] first in the world for gun ownership,” said Swann. “[The] U.S., despite being number one in gun ownership, is number 28 in gun homicide, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.”

CNN host Piers Morgan and radio host Alex Jones(Photo Credit: CNN)
In exploring the United Kingdom’s numbers (Great Britain is part of the UK), some of Morgan’s arguments again seem to falter, as Swann notes that the UK has the second-highest overall crime rate in the European Union (EU); the EU has also named Britain the most violent country in the union.
“In the UK, there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people,” Swann noted, showcasing that fewer guns is certainly not indicative of a lower crime rate (the rate in the U.S. is 466 per 100,000 residents).
The stat-driven segment ended with Swann delivering a message that gun control advocates will undoubtedly dislike. Rather than blaming weapons, the anchor said that individuals are accountable for violent actions.
“While people like Morgan insist that the U.S. can learn from Great Britain — well maybe we can,” Swann concluded. “What we might learn is that violent crime is not the result of a gun or any tool — it is the result of the heart of men and women.”
Watch the video, below:
Will Morgan respond to this pointed rebuke? We’ll have to wait and see, but considering how fervently Swann relied upon actual statistics and not mere emotion, arguing against the anchor’s points with legitimacy could prove a highly-difficult task for the CNN host.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:54amWhen SENDTHEMETEORS sneaks in late tonight, this whole story will then be called a pack of lies.
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IndyGuy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:00amHave a read here…http://www.theblaze.com/contributions/registration-will-lead-to-confiscation/
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SocialistSlayer
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:06amFact Check – Piers Morgan is an Absolute Moron !
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:10amINDYGUY, That’s it in a nutshell. They will try to accomplish this incrementally even while so many scream that they want it now. These people know how to boil a frog correctly.
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:21amFOX NEWS should fire some of the idiots they have, and hire this fellow
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jeffersonian1776
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:27amRemember that when the leftist loons try to throw the old “what don’t you understand about ‘well-regulated’” at you, that the term ‘well-regulated’ meant during the latter 18th century–’well-trained.’ In fact, the 2nd Amendment in the U.S. Constitution would be hypocritical if it was saying that guns should be well-regulated by the state and then right in the same sentence saying that it is to “not be infringed.” When the Anti-Federalists like George Mason and Thomas Jefferson wanted all Natural Rights to be in writing–hence the Bill of Rights–they wanted the 2nd Amendment’s right to keep and bear arms to be protected in the Constitution and used the term “well-regulated” (i.e., “well-trained”) as something to not be infringed by gov’t. In other words, they didn’t want the gov’t to be able to take one’s guns away on puny charges like, you’re not smart enough, or well-trained enough, or safe enough person to own said arms. They can’t take them on the grounds that you aren’t responsible enough of a person to own the gun, or that you have not gone through the proper training (or regulating of) on gun safety.
Otherwise, why would they say at the same time the govt can regulate firearms as well as the govt cannot infringe on anyone’s right to own a firearm. Just do your research of several, and I mean several, usages of “well-regulated” during these times, you’ll find it has nothing at all to do with today’s definitio
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CABERNETQHS
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:34amHa Ha – yes, a pack of lies in a 1500 character socialist rant.
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banjarmon
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:38amLibs hate real facts…It makes them eat crow!
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ginger100
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:59amI sold all my guns to a hispanic guy or middle eastern guy (but i’m not sure because i didn’t racially profile him) wearing a che guevara shirt buying ice cream with his kid. when i asked him if he were an american and allowed to vote he said sure. I thought if that was good enough for eric holder, that was good enough for me.
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4xeverything
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:05pmDid anyone recognize Tricia Macke? She introduced Ben Swann in this segment. She’s the anchor who posted on her facebook page that Rachel Maddow was an angry young man. Ha ha ha. I love our Cincy anchors.
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Brother Winston Smith
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:25pmYeah. It’s nice to see the fake-conservative/libertarian Beck/Blaze FINALLY ACKNOWLEDGE Ben Swann. Ben reported EXTENSIVELY on the REPUBLICAN election fraud, FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS, against Ron Paul and was COMPLETELY IGNORED by REPUBLICAN media. I guess since they finally cheated out Ron Paul for the last time, it’s now “safe” to talk about Ben Swann and POSE as like-minded or supportive.
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The_Cabrito_Goat
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:07pmTell us your thoughts on guns, Brother Winston Smith.
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ishka4me
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:21pmDoesn’t Candy crowley work for cnn ? nuf said
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Independent4233
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:39pmRJJinGadsden
Posted on January 9, 2013 at 10:54am
“When SENDTHEMETEORS sneaks in late tonight, this whole story will then be called a pack of lies.”
He might not sneak in if he’s too tired from cruising in his pink jumpsuiit.
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johnnymack
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:39pmI will not go quietly into the night liberals. You will not take my Constitutional rights from me without a fight.
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JRook
Jan. 9, 2013 at 4:24pmJust put up the data on the number of violent crimes and the percentage of gun ownership that you presented a couple of weeks ago. Of course without the incredibly moronic step of dividing a percentage into the number of violent crimes and stating the product means that there is less crime where the percentage of gun ownership is higher. Because clearly the data indicated the exact opposite was true.
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SendTheMeteors
Jan. 9, 2013 at 4:46pmAs RJ says, this video was a pack of lies. Actually, I’m joking and I do know this is a complicated issue. I have and did look at some statistics and I’m not sure where this guy got his. But he definitely presented a slanted point of view (as I suppose Morgan does to – I wouldn’t know).
For example, this guy points out that the the US has the most guns per capita but is 28th in the world for incidence of gun homicide. That kind of statistic is easily found, and is true, but it’s apples and oranges. Yes, the US has a lower gun death rate than, say, the Congo or El Salvador or Angola or Zimbabwe. But the US has a far, far higher gun murder rate than any other industrialized Democracy.
Or look at it this way. There are about 200 countries in the world, and this guy is proud that only 172 other countries have lower rates of gun death than we do? Yeah, it’s better here than Uganda, but somehow that fact doesn’t do much for me.
And pointing out that the UK has actually had 59 gun murders instead of 35 may be true. But compared to the 7,900 in the US, that’s still a tiny fraction.
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KC1
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:02pm@ Bro Winston
My sentiments as well when reading through this.
I for one am very appreciative youre so dedicated to highlighting the hypocrisy of neo cons on web sites like this. Well done.
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:34pmYou guys know Ben Swan is a HUGE Ron Paul guy…..Oh, you didnt know?
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valiant1776
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:45pm@SendTheMeteorsToMarxistHomes
Hm, do you recall under what conditions these “other industrialized Democracies” were under when we Americans came to save their butts in the 1900′s? Do you know where Italy, Germany, Spain, Russia, and “other industrialized Democracies” stood politically just a little over half a century ago? Does Communism, National Socialism, Fascism and Military Dictatorships ring any bells? Do you really want us to conform to the rest of the world? There’s a reason why Greece, Italy, Ireland, Spain and “other industrialized Democracies” are falling apart today. Hell, have you even heard about the genocides and wars going on in Africa committed largely upon unarmed people who are easily slaughtered because they’re unable to defend themselves or their family? Do you even know about the persecution that has gone on and is going on in the world? Do you seriously prefer people to be defenseless? Don’t give me this BS that such horrors can’t happen in these “other industrialized Democracies” because the US has lost brave men and women to save just such people in the past who lived in the same land where these “industrialized Democracies” exist today. There’s no way you can spin your idiotic rhetoric to hide from facts and truth.
BTW, the majority of gun related homicides occur in metropolitan areas wherein the demographics are not representative of the whole nation. Most European nations don’t boast such diverse populations.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:47pmSENDTHEMETEORS, Still blows your story and stats all to hell doesn’t it? Damn, you are out early today? What happened, your employer let you stay online early or late?
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000degrees
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:53pmMeteors would rather take a pipe to the head than be shot…….fits his agenda…..at least there wouldn’t be a gun crime
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Jim S
Jan. 9, 2013 at 6:03pm….using this logic, Iran having Nukes is NOT the problem and of all the nations with Nukes ONLY the US has used them…so the US is the greatest danger to the world ! The tools of violence are NOT the problem…think about that and apply it to ALL out foreign and military policy…WMDs ? not the problem..the users of WMD are the problem…facts, without context or perspective are meaningless…
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Zipit
Jan. 9, 2013 at 6:14pmNo RJJ! She got to work the breakfast shift this morning down at “Wack-Arnold’s”. Was able to able to get home and log on early! Carefully there METEORS, I don’t think Soros likes to pay overtime!
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valiant1776
Jan. 9, 2013 at 6:35pm“Analysis of figures from the European Commission showed a 77 per cent increase in murders, robberies, assaults and sexual offences in the UK since Labour came to power.
The total number of violent offences recorded compared to population is higher than any other country in Europe, as well as America, Canada, Australia and South Africa.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/5712573/UK-is-violent-crime-capital-of-Europe.html
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 7:01pmsendthemeteros has one little fact he does not like to share with our faithful readers/
He happens to know that we have something else separating our gun violence with the other industrialized nations.
While he hates these facts, and he hates for people to know them, he does know they are factual
In America, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, they do 1/2 of all of our murders. Very seldom do they ever use a rifle, and if we can lower the black murder rate to the same as whites, we will lower the national murder rate by almost 40%, and save a whole lot of black lives (they generally murder each other)
Meteors is not concerned with saving black lives, he is not concerned with lowering murder rates, he has but one concern. he really want those Bible, but he knows Obama cannot come get them, until he first get’s the guns. Nothing new, all the socialist dictators do it.
Keep it real.
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TieDyeTim
Jan. 9, 2013 at 7:43pmBen Swann is a true journalist and the anchor on my local fox affiliate. You can see his reality checks on YouTube and its worth your time.
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kanawah
Jan. 9, 2013 at 7:48pmA pack of lies it is.
The “good old boy” is a gun monger and a lire.
Pierce is not my favorite announcer, but at least he tells the truth.
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Walkabout
Jan. 9, 2013 at 8:06pm“But the US has a far, far higher gun murder rate than any other industrialized Democracy.”
Just wait, it will change.
Do a web search with “Malmo”, Sweden & the site: vladtepesblog.com. Follow what Bruce Bawer write about Northern Europe at Frontpagemag.com. He moved form Amsterdam to Oslo to find a safer place, because in the end dead is dead. It doesn’t matter if a knife or a gun are used except to a progressive. Personally I think all things being equal Amsterdam would be a better place to live all things considered. It is more centrally located. There are also continued violence in France car burning & worse. What these have in common are Muslims. Over time the Muslims will get more violent & the crime rate will rise. When the Muslims go Hutu on the Europeans, I hope you can be there JZS or whoever you are..
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SendTheMeteors
Jan. 9, 2013 at 8:18pmRJ, sorry, I just off got off my shift at McDonald’s. But please, try to keep up dude!
When you say, “Still blows your story and stats all to hell doesn’t it?” Uh, what story, what stats of mine? No matter. Please tell me you aren’t one of those people who listens to people like this guy or someone, have a vague understanding the he’s proved his point and, since it agrees with yours, take it hook, line and sinker. Without even bother to think about what he’s saying.
That’s okay. I’m here to help you. Check these sources out, which, as far as I know, agree with everything the guy said, but include stuff he didn’t say:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/14/chart-the-u-s-has-far-more-gun-related-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
The guy said that the US has the 26th highest rate of gun murders in the world. Not sure we’re he got that exact number, but I don’t dispute it. But RJ, there are 200 countries in the world, so being 26th from the bottom, only better than countries like Zimbabwe and Uganda, is not an argument for gun ownership.
I’ll admit, even if you won’t or incapable of thinking that deeply, that this is a complicated issue, and there are other factors than guns. But trying to argue that rate of deaths from guns in the US actually shows how good guns are is a losing argument based on facts even this guy agrees wit
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Trigus
Jan. 9, 2013 at 8:24pm@sendinthemixnutz facts. you cannot handle the facts. give us some actual facts.
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Wolfgang the Gray
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:00pmIn WWII, Brittain asked the US to send them firearms to help defend the island against German invasion because their laws didn’t let their people own guns. So Americans by the thousands donated their guns to Brittain to help in the war effort. An outstanding gesture on our part & the English gladly accepted them. Of course, the invasion never happened, but after the war, instead of returning the guns to the Americans, Brittain took them & destroyed them. Proof that the many English just don’t get it. Piers Morgan is English.
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SendTheMeteors
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:18pmTrigus says, @sendinthemixnutz facts. you cannot handle the facts. give us some actual facts.
Okay, here’s a fact. You didn’t read my post. Here’s another fact. Are you too stupid too stupid to follow the conversation here?
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Walkabout
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:29pm“I’ll admit, even if you won’t or incapable of thinking that deeply, that this is a complicated issue, and there are other factors than guns”
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IT is complicated and yet the troll keeps hammering away on guns only like a good little prog.
If you compare homicides in England & U.S., where a firearm was used it is 8,583 to 58 using 2011 data.
But overall homicide rates are 4.8 to 1.2 or or 4 to 1. So denied a weapon like firearms criminals will find other weapons.
Note that England homicide rate for 160 years has always been 1.0 to 1.4 with or without gun laws.
Point is the gun laws had nothing to do with their homicide rate going down. If you look at England U.S. & England their homicide rates & crime rates had a crime wave around 1990 which has gradually been subsiding. It sound more like demographics to me. The population is getting older. It is another one of those factors.
Like we know it is complicated, but like monkeys with 1 track minds keep banging away at 1 factor.
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Moose Hunter
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:38pmSince when did the liberal Nazis concern themselves with facts? This entire cluster **** has nothing to do with crimes committed with firearms–or any other weapon for that matter. This is one huge leap toward a dictatorship. If obama issues an EO on guns, it will be a mandate for confiscation and it will just about complete his “transformation of America.” If he succeeds in disarming law-abiding American citizens, it could well go down in history as a coup d’etat. .
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Walkabout
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:01pmWolfgang the Gray
I didn’t know that WW2 history. Some people are really dumb & continue to be so.
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michaelmoron
Jan. 10, 2013 at 12:24amOur Government killed more children in WACO, than was killed in Conneticut.
Yeah, Let them have your weapons because YOU are DANGEROUS!!!
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A moment of silence for the innocent children butchered by your “Government”
Lisa Martin – 13
Sheila Martin, Jr. – 15
Rachel Sylvia – 12
Hollywood Sylvia – 1
Joseph Martinez – 8
Abigail Martinez – 11
Crystal Martinez – 3
Isaiah Martinez – 4
Audrey Martinez – 13
Melissa Morrison – 6
Chanel Andrade – 1
Cyrus Koresh – 8
Star Koresh – 6
Bobbie Lane Koresh – 2
Dayland Gent – 3
Page Gent – 1
Mayanah Schneider – 2
Startle Summers – 1
Serenity Jones – 4
Chica Jones – 2
Little One Jones – 2
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GuruMeditation
Jan. 10, 2013 at 7:25amPlanned since 2006:
http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2013/01/07/obama-blueprint-disarming-americans?utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20FoxNation%20%28Fox%20Nation%29&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner
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JCMJCNJ
Jan. 10, 2013 at 10:33amI don’t see a per-capita comparison. I do believe that
would lower our crime rate vs. GB considerably.
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Trigus
Jan. 10, 2013 at 12:49pm@sendinthemixbagofnutz – the facts from this report came from the FBI. Stop using wiki or washington post – the Facts from FBI and The Home OFfice (UK) are in black and white.
Now, take a large White Poster Board and write this using 6 inch black letters: “I do not have a gun on this premises” and tack it to your front door. Leave it up for 2 weeks and get back to us on your thoughts of gun control.
“In 1997, the Court again ruled that the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act violated the Tenth Amendment (Printz v. United States, 521 U.S. 898 (1997)). The act required state and local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on persons attempting to purchase handguns. Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, applied New York v. United States to show that the law violated the Tenth Amendment. Since the act “forced participation of the State’s executive in the actual administration of a federal program”, it was unconstitutional.”
“Scalia refers to the “dual sovereignty” established by the U.S. Constitution that federalism is built upon. His opinion states that the Framers designed the Constitution to allow Federal regulation of international and interstate matters, not internal matters reserved to the State Legislatures. The majority arrives at the conclusion that allowing the Federal government to draft the police officers of the 50 states into its service would increase its powers far beyond what the Constitution intends.”
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yougottabekidding
Jan. 10, 2013 at 4:39pmAll you liberals that like to throw out stats, give us the stats on
1 How many of those gun related deaths were from legal gun owners? (not justifiable shootings)
2 How many of those gun related deaths were gang related which includes drugs?
3 How many of gun related deaths were from someone having say over a 7th grade education.
4 How many of those gun related deaths were from people receiving food stamps or welfare?
5 How many of those gun related deaths were from stolen guns gotten from the commission of a crime?
6 How many of those gun related deaths come from the sewers of our big cities?
Lets just start there!
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emilyhasbooks
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:52amUsing the figures presented here, let’s go back to some elementary math to make an equal comparison- which I’ve not seen done yet. I’ll show the result, then the math using rounded numbers & population percentages with a lowest common multiplier.
Gun Deaths per 6552 Million:
UK- 6,240 (.95%)
US- 168,000 (25.6%)
That’s essentially 1% vs 25%.
Started with: UK average of 60 & US average of 8000. Used population averages for each country, UK 63M, US 312M. Found a LCM/LCD of 6552 Million, and math did the rest.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:57amI still say that Mark Twain aka Samuel Clemens was absolutely right regarding his statement about “lies.”
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jcldwl
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:04amWhat is your point.
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SocialistSlayer
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:09amDoesn’t matter Emily – I still have my Gun under my Constitution – Don’t like it ? Move to the UK you Commie !
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:10amThe point is only liberal’s think it’s ok to shoot people.http://www.infowars.com/veiled-threat-piers-morgan-guest-says-shoot-alex-jones/
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:10amI don’t like figures because they can be manipulated ( look at our own Social Security Fund “balance” ), but these figures are all i need for this peticular topic right now : “[The] U.S., despite being number one in gun ownership, is number 28 in gun homicide, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.”
In exploring the United Kingdom’s numbers (Great Britain is part of the UK), some of Morgan’s arguments again seem to falter, as Swann notes that the UK has the second-highest overall crime rate in the European Union (EU); the EU has also named Britain the most violent country in the union.
“In the UK, there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people,” Swann noted, showcasing that fewer guns is certainly not indicative of a lower crime rate (the rate in the U.S. is 466 per 100,000 residents).
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emilyhasbooks
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:15amMy point is that to make an honest assessment, one must give a proper analysis with lowest comment multipliers across population, and that showing this (even with the reporter’s suggested figures) Morgan’s message persists.
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DrCruiser
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:15amI think you need to review how basic math and statistics work.
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00100111
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:15amWhy are you only focusing on “Gun Deaths” instead of “All Deaths” and “Violent Crimes”? Are people not as dead if they get stabbed?
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:16amJCLDWL, If you are asking me for point, it is that EMILYHASBOOKS is actively proving Mark Twain to be correct when he said that there are three kinds of lies. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics. The above is another agenda twist of a statistic.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:23amTim decided to tie the knot with his long time girlfriend.
One evening, after the honeymoon,
he was assembling some loads for an upcoming hunt.
His wife was standing there at the bench watching him.
After along period of silence she finally speaks.
Honey, I’ve been thinking, now that we are married I think it’s time you quit hunting, shooting and handloading.
Maybe you should sell your guns.
Tim gets this horrified look on his face.
She says, “Darling, what’s wrong?”
”There for a minute you were sounding like my ex-wife.”
“Ex wife!”, she screams, “I didn’t know you were married before!”
”I wasn’t “
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dont_drive_slow_in_the_left_lane_obliviot
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:27amnice of you to ignore the rest of the violent crime stats.
if you hate guns then move to the UK. you are many times more likely to be a violent crime victim, it will just be with a knife or blunt object instead of a gun so that should make you feel better while you’re being stabbed or beaten to death.
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:30amEmily
Wow, you are a real math wiz. How about these figures?
In the US, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, and do 1/2 of the murders. If we lowered black murder rates, to the same as whites, we would drop the nation’s murder by almost 40%, making us one of the lowest in the world (murder per capita rate), and saving a whole lot of black lives.
Are you interested in saving black lives, or are you just looking to dump out our bill of rights?
More people are killed with knives in America than with rifles. Why is it the libs are not talking about kives?
Emily, are you aware that we own 88 guns per 100 people in America, but 27 nations have higher murder per capita rates? Did you know in Honduras they only own 6.6 guns per 100 people, but have the highest murder rate in the world? That shows that higher gun ownership does not mean higher murder rates. In Europe, the nations that allow guns have lower murder rates than Luxemburg, where no gun ownership is allowed.
Do you know that in Switzerland, there is a military rifle and ammo in ever house, and they have one of the lowest murder rates in the world? There low murder rate is not because of their healthcare system, their find made watches, or cheese with holes in it. It comes because folks know better than to break into a house with armed citizens.
Go punch some of those figures into your calculator.
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:34amEmily
Do you realize Morgan is hiding some of the stats from the motherland?
Despite the handguns ban imposed under the 1997 Firearms Amendment in the UK, research carried out following the implementation of the Act saw a 40 per cent increase in the number of gun crime incidents in the UK.
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metalbanger
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:35amHey math genius, uk does not have 6552 million people, makes u look like a math moron
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Metallicat
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:36amThats not a fair comparison when you compare a country that is permitted gun ownership and a country where gun ownership is restricted. thats like comparing a country that doesnt play football with one that does and saying the facts prove the football playing country are better athletes. your doing what the climate change crowd does by selecting the data you want to prove your point and ignoring the data that doesnt lend to your argument.
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Flag-Man
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:37amGuns is not the point.
The point is the crime rate
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jeffersonian1776
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:40amYou did not read this story at all. Read the last five paragraphs, then punch that into your fancy math-a-maker-thingy, or what ever that fancy computer thing is that spits out numbers, and then tell me what you have come up with. Otherwise, that’s all you commies do, and know how to do, which is to parrot what others say and never debate on someone else’s terms when it is evident and in your face that you will lose said debate. Now I am going to signup for math class, so I can beat up people in debates with my math-a-maker-thingy–bye-bye
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right-wing-waco
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:42amFigures don’t lie… but LIERS do figure. You are not comparing apples to apples.
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searching for the Truth
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:48amNo! The fact is that all the criminals move here to the United Sates because there is no other place for them to work ! Leave the Second Amendment communist.
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Zipit
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:50amHey M! RJJ is correct! I seem to remember a book entitled, “How To Lie With Statistics”. It must be on your shelf? However, your spin on this one doesn’t stand up to reality!
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bumfuzeled
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:00pmComplex problems often have answers that are simple, easy, basic and WRONG. It’s not just simple math, though you simpletons on the left seem to continue to chant that mantra, look up the real statistics on the FBI web sites and you will find that most violence (including gun violence) increases with increased population density. Maybe we should outlaw cities.
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CABERNETQHS
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:04pmYou may have books, but I doubt you can actually read them. Your argument is moronic.
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mlimberg
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:07pmSOCIALISTSLAYER, I’ll buy her one way ticket…
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ltb
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:09pmEmily, first off, 6,552 million is 6 billion 552 million, so your cipherin’ was messed up from the start. Second, you need to take a few courses in statistics, because I don’t what you’re trying to say about extrapolating the data using lowest common denominators, but that’s certainly nothing I ever learned in undergraduate or graduate school and I took lots of courses in statistics. Sorry, but even barring your 6.552 billion mistake, your analysis is ridiculous.
Let me give you a quick lesson about the 2nd Amendment: The 2nd Amendment was not put in place to protect American citizens from bears, lions, rabid squirrels, or even common everyday criminals, it was put in place to protect American citizens from Nazis like Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Barack Obama. That being the case, the murder of innocent Americans by barbarians who abuse the 2nd Amendment is moot, period. Let me repeat myself… The 2nd Amendment was meant to protect American citizens from tyrants, so any arguments other than why we should not be able to protect ourselves from tyrants are irrelevant.
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NsanePOWMIA
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:11pmFirst off, I have to give the “Big Balls” award to Piers for not being a citizen of this country, here as a visitor and on a campaign for us to be more like Britain. Muy Grande!! Secondly, as the saying goes “Stats lie and liars use stats”. What ultimately chaps my hide is the same people standing up shouting we have to protect the children in our schools are the first ones in line at Planned Parenthood to get their poor decision making abilities “taken” care of. (Please note cynicism here). If we termed the shootings a late term abortion would the left be having this conversation now?
DISCLAIMER: I am by no means making light of the death of those angels at Sandy Hook but merely trying to make my point. Yes it’s offensive but some times you have to hit them in the face with their own hypocrisy.
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Psychosis
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:35pmyou need work on your ELEMENTARY math dear
the very first set of numbers you list is wrong
better yet, just redo elementary school from the beginning .
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naughtycal
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:44pmThe majority of gun death are in cities with populations greater than 250,000 America has 60 times as many cities of that size as england yet our murder rate is only 25 times greater. More over the weapons at the center of these UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTION count for less than 10% of all firearm murders. If you look even closer the majority of those murder were committed by repeat criminal offenders. What does this say about our quote unquote rehibilitation in prison.
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willrhar
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:49pmHow can you say that it’s a good thing that a country with a complete gun ban has 59 gun murders in a year. It shows that supporters of the 2nd amendment are right and only criminals will have guns.
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xyz427
Jan. 9, 2013 at 1:11pmGun Deaths per 6552 Million:
UK- 6,240 (.95%)
US- 168,000 (25.6%)
That’s essentially 1% vs 25%
You may want to go back to math class!!!
Using your methodology
6,240 divided by 6,552,000 = .000952381 which is .095%
168,000 divided by 6,552,000 = = .025641026 which is 2.56%
The very least you could do with you cifering is to get it correct! 2.5 is nowhere close to 25%.
25% of a population of 6,522,000 would equate to 1,638,000 deaths.
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 1:24pmEMILY
looks like the multicultural, pro socialist public education system failed you.
Fear not, we will get you on track and load you up with some facts that your lib teachers in college never gave you.
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KILLACOMMIE4MOMMY
Jan. 9, 2013 at 1:30pmDo you make this up as you go along?
Shouldnt you be out getting free birth control or an abortion due to your promiscous lifestyle?
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guz75
Jan. 9, 2013 at 1:49pmActually all you have to do is look up the firearm homicide figures for 2011: US – 2.97 firearm homicides per 100,00 and UK – 0.12 firearm homicides per 100,000 and as was pointed that means 24.75 times the rate in the UK.
If you consider they’re both first world countries, that both have issues with gang violence in their major cities. Someone explain the disparity, why not be honest and take ownership of the fact that this is the price of your second amendment freedoms and that these figures will not improve if things stay as they are. If you want to keep these freedoms, that’s fine, but don’t keep up with this petty denial of the cost.
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TEIN
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:17pm@emilyhasbooks.. Are trying to compare and say that people who died in violent crimes committed by something besides a gun in the UK are less dead???
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rangerskippy
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:37pmEmilyhascomicbooks
Where did you go?
Come out and play.
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ltb
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:38pmGuz75, I’ll gladly admit that the murder of innocent people with guns is the price of being able to defend ourselves against tyrants. Let’s see, 8,000 people murdered by murderers using guns in an armed society vs. 12,000,000 people murdered by Adolf Hitler in an unarmed society… yeah, I’ll accept those 8,000 deaths even if those murderers use guns to murder children.
Now, if you want to talk about why psychopaths murder children in our State run schools let’s have that argument. I don’t know how to get this through the thick skulls of you liberals, but the amoral society you people are creating is why we have psychopaths murdering children. When you refuse to teach children “thou shalt not kill” and instead teach them that life is meaningless, don’t start whining when they grow up to be murderers of babies who sleep in their mothers’ wombs and of innocent kids in schoolyards. It’s dumbfounding that you idiots on the Left fail to realize that, now more than ever, we need the 2nd Amendment to protect ourselves from tyrants, because you have created a society that breeds psychopaths and wannabe tyrannical dictators.
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bandofotters
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:55pmI guess when you are so obsessed with guns it’s hard to comprehend the real issue, violence, regardless of the weapon used. I don’t know why so many would be happy if U.S. violence stats shifted to other weapons.
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Deeli
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:16pmEmily, perhaps you should understand the overall crime rate per capita and the gun control laws in the UK before spouting your facts. Of course gun crimes are lower there and that’s because of their gun control laws. However, even after everyone had to turn in their guns a few years ago (including antique rifles that had been passed down through the generations in any given family) the violent crime rate did not drop one little bit, as a matter of fact, it increased. The only difference is people opted to stab, beat, poison, etc. instead of using a gun. Weapons of any sort don’t murder people; immoral people kill people.
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cosmic dogma
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:21pmFactor in race, and everything changes. Most gun violence occurs within inner cities, and is gang and drug related. Our society is essentially more ethnically diverse than Great Britain, and this diversity skews all figures. If calculating deaths per race, some certain segments of the population would be a bit “heavy”. Think about it.
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Wolf
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:35pmEmily- I might take you seriously if you weren’t such a baby killer democrat voting communist. As it is, until you do something about murdering two million (+/-) children a year in the U.S. alone, you’re nothing but a hypocrite dancing on the graves of children- both those you help murder and those killed by savages with guns.
One reason I want guns is people like you.
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5061304072
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:40pmWhy are you counting people when you should be counting guns?
Of course there are more gun deaths in America. WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE AND MORE GUNS.
The fact of the matter is, 99.9% of all guns in America are never used in a violent crime (FBI statistics).
We have a heck of a lot MORE people owning guns legally in America than they do in Great Britain. Probably in the 10,000-to-1 ratio … at least.
So if you really want to compare Great Britain to the United States in terms of gun violence, there is a lot more gun violence per gun in Great Britain than in the United States AND THEY MADE GUN OWNERSHIP ILLEGAL MANY YEARS AGO. How’s that working out for them.
Don’t try to prove your point with math unless you know what you are doing.
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TRILO
Jan. 9, 2013 at 3:52pmMaybe Emilyhasbooks should learn to read and maybe listen. Better yet you might think about going back to school altogether so that you can learn to use logic. Did you not hear/read that the US has the highest gun ownership per capita and one of the lowest violent crime rates? Yet Britain has the highest violent crime rate in the EU and the world, PLUS the most security camera’s per capital in the world. Banning guns in Britain sure did not save those who were killed by illegal guns.
Criminals do not follow any law or bans. If they did we would not have violent crime, white collar crime, child molesters, animal abusers, poachers, drunk drivers, illegal drug users, etc, etc, etc.
Maybe you should read some research books and data on international crime rates while you are at it.
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VRW Conspirator
Jan. 9, 2013 at 4:21pmEmily…
apparently none of your books are about math…
your entire process is inherently flawed…
Mr. Swan told us that the US has 466 violent crimes per 100,000 citizens. Of that, there are 2.75 gun deaths per 100,000 citizens, using the quoted “gun deaths” of 8583 for the US. Mr. Swan told us that the UK/Great Britian has 59 “gun deaths”, using your quoted population, that is .098 “gun deaths” per 100,000 citizens. Yes, that is MUCH high for the US. BUT, total violent crimes in the UK are 2034 per 100,000.
So without guns, the UK is still 5X more violent than the US per 100,000 citizens…hmm…doesn’t bode well for the anti gun lobby now does it….take away guns and violent crime jumps 5X…add the guns back in, as the UK is starting to do because of their crime rates….and you cut violent crime by 80%..
you are F’ed in the highest degree Emily if you think taking guns away will solve the crime problem… it will simply drop the US violent crime rate from 466 to 463 per 100,000…because gun deaths are VIOLENT CRIMES and included in those numbers… YOU IDIOT!!!
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tonydgs
Jan. 9, 2013 at 4:34pmhaving books and reading books are about as different as a liberal and a conservative,
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Perspective
Jan. 9, 2013 at 6:47pmSo what you’re saying is as long as less people are killed by guns an EXTREMELY HIGH Violent Crime Rate is fine? Seems to me the numbers show that more guns = less violent crime.Pretty simple math.
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Walkabout
Jan. 9, 2013 at 7:37pm14.4 per million or 1.44 per 100,000
http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html
UK has about 63 million & is 92% white
Expanded Homicide Data Table 8
Good table. It shows Homicides in general & homicide where a firearm are used have been monotonically decreasing
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-8
U.S. about 315 million people with 12,664 homicides
U.S. is about 75% white ( I didn’t look it up. MSM always makes it a point to rub it in out faces).
Or about 4.8 per 100,000
Emily most people use decimals right away. They don’t use odd #s via a LCM method. The speak in terms of homicides per 100,000 or million. You should sue you school.
If you compare homicides where a firearm was used it is 8,583 to 58 using 2011 data.
This is 147 to 1.
UK homicides where a firearm was used ranged in recent years form 39 to 80. We should probably take the average due to the low #s. So we should use something close to 55 or 60.
But I like to point out dead is dead & the homicide victim doesn’t care if you used a firearm, knife or bat. It is going to suck either way.
The rates to compare are 4.8 to 1.2 or or 4 to 1.
4 to 1 is bad? I agree. But look at United Kingdoms longer term rate has always been around 1 to 1.4 homicides per 100,000.
My point is that this has nothing to due with gun laws. It has to do with culture & all those other theori
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Walkabout
Jan. 9, 2013 at 7:48pm“My point is that to make an honest assessment, one must give a proper analysis with lowest comment multipliers across population”
So all those rates in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) where the n#s are per 100,000, that is a really poor way to describe the data.
Tell you what. Why don’t you link a paper where psychologists, demographers or someone else say that using a LCM method (?) to compare data is superior than making comparison the old fashioned way (x per 100,000 or y per 1 million etc.).
God knows when you compare 4.8 per 100,000 to 1.2 to 100,000 you have no clue what you are looking at & might easily be misled.
I mean is 1.2 per 100k grater than 4.8 per 100k?
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TheRegnirps
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:46pmNice math!. Uhm, 25% of what?
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SocialismSuxEveryday
Jan. 10, 2013 at 8:48amEmily, your math is as bad as your logic. Drunk drivers kill more people than guns. Do you ban cars or alcohol? People die in hospitals from staph infections, do ban hospitals or nurses? 800,000 people were murdered in 1 year in Ruwanda, mostly with tools not guns. Maybe we should ban people. What does your end result look like?
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SocialismSuxEveryday
Jan. 10, 2013 at 9:58amEmily- Just listened to a report from Georgia about a woman hiding in the attic with her 2 children as a breaking and entering was happening at her house – while her husband was in the city. Her husband taught her how to use his pistol and put 6 rounds into this guy as he coached her while talking with 911. He was close to her or she was good or both. This guy’s mug shot was from 2008. (He seems to have a pattern.) Now, I doubt this guy was doing a Robert Downy Jr. and was up to no good. Is he in your opinion a result of a failed criminal justice system or another innocent victim of gun crime?
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TheRegnirps
Jan. 11, 2013 at 12:48amCool math. 25% of what?
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TheRegnirps
Jan. 11, 2013 at 12:53amBy the way, that is by your method, US 0.0026% Didn’t that 25% look a little suspicious? Calculator generation I would guess.
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P4cooler
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amWe don’t need an Obama holocaust….. Preserve our 2nd amendment from the anti gun liberals!
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SanMoo
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amPiers Morgan a Brit…..doesn’t understand a large country like the USA! For heaven’s sake—STOP COMPARING US TO THESE SMALL COUNTRIES —WE HAVE STATES THAT ARE LARGER THAN THEM AND A HECK OF A LOT MORE PEOPLE!!! Stop with these ridiculous comparisons….vehicles, oil drilling (Britan has none), guns, food (they have no cattle ranges!), land in general (they have little of in comparison to the USA! ) it is so stupid and laughable……all these small countries are trying to tell us how to run our health care, our eating habits, our government and a whole bunch of other things—–they have no clue how we do business through our State Governments, etc. Leave us to deal with gun controls and registrations…..stop treating us like we are stupid and need a big brother to lead us. With out our wonderful men and women who fought in WWII—there would not be an England, France, or any Europe as it is today!!! Leave the gun control to us to decide……Ughhhhh!!
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shorelineliz
Jan. 9, 2013 at 1:02pmAmen. NO one talks about the STABBINGS in Great Britain do they? Are burned with irons? HOME Invasions in Great Britain are 10 times the USA and why? Because they have no guns! they have been disarmed! Betcha Piers Morgan didn’t throw that statistic out did he? Nope. Most people in Great Britain and Wales are Stabbed To Death by Knives. Roving gangs of youth and other undesirables have Free Reign in the UK. Alex Jones needed to throw that back in Morgan’s face but I think he didn’t bring up that FACT.
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valiant1776
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:57pmThe UK is able to pass gun control laws because they’re a freaking island and heavily control all imports. The US is neighbor to one of the biggest crime filled nations in the world and openly accepts citizens to cross our international border! If we can’t keep drug cartels from bringing foreigners, cocaine and weed here, how the hell are liberals going to keep guns from coming here too? Idiots, the whole lot of them.
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4xeverything
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amBen Swann is an awesome anchor here in Cincy. I’ve been watching him do ‘Reality Check’ for quite a while. He excoriated Obama and Romney (but mostly Obama…only b/c the truth leaned towards Romney) both during the election. Ben is unafraid and does an excelent job at getting all of the facts. I’m just surprised that it took this long for him to get national recognition. He has a very bright future.
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Skinnerb
Jan. 9, 2013 at 12:04pm4X,
I live about an hour North of Cincy, and have seen Mr. Swann when visiting friends. This particular segment is typical of Reality Check. He has poked a sharp stick in Morgan’s eye without being snarky, emotional or abusive. Unlike Morgan….”you are an unbelievably stupid man”….great “journalism” that.
By the way, while Alex Jones does make a good point every once in a while, I think he’s a loon. But he’s our loon. Let’s keep him and send Morgan back across the pond.
Oh wait, we can’t….they don’t want him back. Sob
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Jwmajic
Jan. 9, 2013 at 2:19pmIn reply to Skinnerb
Can’t we just drop him off in the middle of the Atlantic ocean????
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Metallicat
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amSo anyone willing to hold their breath until Piers Morgan invites this guy onto his show for a debate?
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biohazard23
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:50amThe left will screech, “But… but… RACIST!!!!” or something like that… Anything to keep the focus off of those pesky little facts….
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:02amGood morning again BIOHAZARD. He really should have looked into England’s governmental stats on violent crimes in total. While using fewer firearms, the percentage of violent crimes are higher in ratio to the population of England to include Wales. Ireland and Scotland maintain their own stats separately.
As I hinted above to our math wiz, Mark Twain was right when he said there are three kinds of lies. Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.
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biohazard23
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:11amWhen I lived over in Ireland several years back, there were all kinds of crimes that did not require firearms. People over there were setting each other on fire (a favorite), running them over with cars, beating them with cricket bats, stomping people in the head with football boots (soccer cleats), bludgeoning with tire irons, “farming accidents”, and all kinds of things. For the left to focus exclusively on guns and murder is laughable, especially when so many children are murdered through the Holy Grail of Liberalism, abortion, every single day.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:24amBIOHAZARD, Likewise, there are more people killed or seriously injured here by the use of hands or feet than with firearms.
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:49amIt’s pretty bad when a country doesn’t even know it’s own laws and right’s. I can’t believe a foreigner is allowed to come on our soil and given a platform to bash our Constitution And from all place’s England. Every man/woman and child that sacrificed in the revolution is turning over in their grave’s. I’m ashamed that this has been allowed to happen.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:07amMorgan was literally run out of England. So, he had to come here to start more trouble. One thing that Alex Jones said caught my attention and made me laugh, but I digress since I laughed through that whole mess. But, Alex did point out to Piers to tell his audience about the scandal he was involved in hacking into those cell phones and all. You know, that story our trolls are constantly trying to blame on Rupert Murdoch. Piers had actual hands on experience with that, and CNN hired him. LOL!
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paultard
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:47amIt’s about time you put Ben Swann on here.. He’s a true American Journalism hero. The Blaze should hire him..
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jcldwl
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:52ambswann@fox19.com
Here is his e-mail send him a thanks for standing up. He deserves it.
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GoodStuff
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:56amImagine if every local tv station had a guy like this. We might actually wake people up in this country.
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S_Malc13
Jan. 9, 2013 at 4:08pmThe Blaze isn’t ready for Ben Swann. He will make Glen Beck look like….Piers Morgan.
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 9, 2013 at 5:38pm‘Liberty supporters love ben swan because he makes glenn beck look like….piers morgan’
lol – classic
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jrcess
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:47amThis village idiot Piers Morgan plots to kill Alex Jones on TV and the FBI stands around with their thumb up their a@@. This is Obama ******** or this guy would be locked up.
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popseal
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:47amGod uses government to maintain “peace” in this fallen creation. The ethics of a people determine the level of oppression a government holds over its subjects. A moral and educated people produce a moral and limited governemnt. An immoral, superstitious, or ignorant people get an oppressive dictatorial government. I’ll not bore readers with Biblical chapter and verse except for a few…. Proverbs 29:2&4 and Romans 13:1-7
Since the Judeo Christian heritage and ethos has been legally rejected from government, I no longer willingly serve on a jury on the ground that Christians have already been dismissed from the duty. I’ve been so dismissed twice since I’ve made this case to both judge and attorney.
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elosogrande
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:46amProves my point. Morgan is a liar.
The Founding Fathers gave us The 2nd Amendment so we could protect ourselves from the possibility of a tyrantical government that might over tax us, over regulate us, and try to disarm us, in order to make us subserviant to a bunch of corrupt inept politicians…Hmmmmm!
If our politicians really wanted to stem the murder rate, they would rid the country of gangs and drugs, but they don’t. THey’re either incapable or afraid. Vote ‘em all out.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:46amSo what ever happened to that Petition to send this Douche Morgan back to where he came from ? I have my Pen handy.
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biohazard23
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amThe Brits filed a counter petition reminding us that even they don’t want him back.
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:06amWe either need a counter counter petition or for someone to flush the Toilet.
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Tickdog
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:51amflush the toilet!
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VigilantGuardShark
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:44amSo basically there were roughly 8000 unjustified homicides as a ersult of firearm use in 2011. So in a country with 88 guns for every 100 citizens, and a population of roughly 350 million, that’s a pretty low percentage. How many attacks (possible homicides) were prevented by firearm usage in 2011? How many other crimes were prevented by firearm usage? Despite my sympathy for the 8000 (approx) annual victims of unjustified homicide by fire arm usage, that does not make me inclined to hand in my firearm so as to be defenseless against criminals should they desire to stage an attack on me, my family or our property. To not defend what is yours is as unconscionable as allowing the invasion of our country by illegals without meaningful deterence. (oh, I guess Washington is letting that happen too)
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usedCZARsalesman
Jan. 9, 2013 at 11:00amIn 2011, something like 3.5 MILLION crimes were stopped with the LEGAL use of LEGAL firearms…using that number, if only ONE HALF OF ONE PERCENT of those crimes (that were prevented) would have ended in death, then LEGAL gun ownership saved over 17,000 lives…hmmm
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ron2win
Jan. 9, 2013 at 9:03pmWe are a country of over three hundred million diversified people . England is a country of about fifty eight million ,of which at least half are of the same nationality.What are p-ss morgans % ‘s about this ?
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jcldwl
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:42amA light of hope in the media. I thank this man greatly for standing up for our Constitution and debunking the emotions of the left with facts. We all need to send this guy an email of thanks.
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OhioRifleman
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:48amThere are a few in the media in Cinci with their heads screwed on straight (and not screwed up their arse, like CNN’s reps are). Maybe the national level could learn something from this???
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Watcher1952
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:39amI wish that Piers Morgan would go back to where ever he came from……he states lies on his program and for what ever reason people believe him….
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Al J Zira
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:51amPeople believe what they want to hear in a lot of cases. In a case like gun control, people have their mind made up before they even hear the truth.
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Bobert
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:38amFACTS? This is no time for facts and rational thought! We must pass this gun legislation to find out what is in it! Now is the time to legislate based on false fear and misleading information and we absolutely must believe everything that we hear from the liberal talking-heads in the local and national media. They are clearly smarter than the Founding Fathers and know what is best for us. Guns are sooooo 18th Century.
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Penn
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:37amSorry guys. ” Face a bear robbed of her cubs, but never a fool in his folly” and ” The fool takes no delight in understanding but rather in displaying what he thinks” Proverbs 17:12 &18:2
Or as the comedian Ron White says, ” You can’t fix stupid.”
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ak47po
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:37amSince when do left wing kooks care about facts.
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Cavallo
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:36amI’ll keep mentioning it. The right to keep weapons was not enshrined for the reason of hunting or protecting yourself from criminals, it was to protect yourself from foreign invasion and to PROTECT YOURSELF FROM YOUR OWN TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT.
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retiredfire
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:36amIf we let little things like facts, or logical reasoning, get in the way, liberals would never get anything done.
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DougHuffman
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:34amBandying numbers and logic with a gun grabber overwhelms his intellect.
Tell him this, “Gun regulation will be as effective as regulation of cocaine and heroin.”
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SREGN
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:33amUh, oh, facts. Facts are kryptonite to a Liberal.
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gyro
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:32amgreat post blaze
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Nightfox
Jan. 9, 2013 at 10:31amLol, well you anti gun lemmings. The numbers disagree with ya. I’ll keep all of my guns. Too bad I have to keep this clean otherwise I tell ya where to shove your ideals.
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