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Egyptian Cleric Warns Christian Women: If You Don’t Wear a Veil You’ll Be Raped

Jan. 10, 2013 11:26am Sharona Schwartz

A Salafi preacher in Egypt is promoting the idea of an anti-vice religious police force like in Saudi Arabia and says even Christian women should be veiled when they are outdoors, unless they “want to get raped on the streets.”

Reuters profiled the Muslim cleric, Hisham el-Ashry, who — while obscure — is finding sympathy for his opinions under Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-led regime. Reuters reports:

“I was once asked: If I came to power, would I let Christian women remain unveiled? And I said: If they want to get raped on the streets, then they can,” Ashry told Nahar TV last week.

Introducing a Saudi-style anti-vice police force to enforce Islamic law was “not a bad thing”, he said, and added: “In order for Egypt to become fully Islamic, alcohol must be banned and all women must be covered.”

Reuters explains that Al Azhar, Sunni Islam’s top authority, and Dar al Ifta, the central authority on religious rulings, say religious practices should not be policed.

Even Egypt’s Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa rejects Hisham el-Ashry’s position. In a statement, he said: “This sort of idiotic thinking is one that seeks to further destabilize what is already a tense situation…Egypt’s religious scholars have long guided the people to act in ways that conform to their religious commitments, but have never thought this required any type of invasive policing.”

While the Muslim Brotherhood rejects individuals getting involved in imposing sharia rules, it won’t rule out the government taking on that task. Muslim Brotherhood Spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan told Reuters: “The case of promotion of virtue and prevention of vice is within the jurisdiction of the authorities and not individuals or groups…It is not anyone’s right to intervene.”

Like Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, the radical preacher warning Christian women to veil themselves lived for years in the United States, an experience that clearly did not moderate his views. El-Ashry moved to New York in the 1990s where he dedicated his spare time to converting Christians to Islam. Reuters explains:

“I went there with a dream to get a blonde girl and a big car,” he said in one of his televised interviews. “(But) I was advised on the plane to cherish my religion and not get taken by the USA or risk being spoiled and losing my faith.”

His religious convictions grew stronger over the next 15 years in the United States, he said.

“I had, thanks to God, guided many Christians to Islam. I can’t tell how many as I stopped counting when their number exceeded 100,” he said.

It was when he was working at a men’s clothing factory in New York that he became convinced that Egypt needed a Saudi-style anti-vice force.

“(My goal was) to make all Egyptians love it,” he said.

Now, el-Ashry is back in Egypt and continues his quest to convert new Muslims. In the fall, writer Graeme Wood described a series of meetings he held with el-Ashry over the course of a year in which the cleric instructed Wood on Salafism.

Wood wrote in The New Republic:

I NEVER ASKED MUCH of Hesham El Ashry, and Hesham never asked much of me. All I wanted was some conversation about religion and Egyptian politics with someone who had strong views on both. All Hesham wanted was one more chance to describe in grotesque detail the fate that awaited me and everybody I loved: Our skin would thicken, not with callouses but with soft, thin, tender layers, each more sensitive than the last. Eventually the accumulated layers would be miles deep. And then God—not my god, or the god of the vast majority of so-called Muslims, but the one true Allah, worshiped by Hesham’s fellow Salafis—would burn off those layers individually, savoring the pain until he reached flesh. Then Allah would restore them again, like Prometheus’s liver, so he could blister and rip them away for eternity.

“I hate you,” Wood quoted el-Ashry as saying. “I hate all Jews and Christians, anyone who is not a Muslim.”

Wood was introduced to el-Ashry by the son of the “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel-Rahman, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in bombing the World Trade Center in 1993. Wood writes that el-Ashry considers Abdel-Rahman to be his religious guide. Earlier this week, President Morsi told CNN he would like President Barack Obama to free Abdel-Rahman from U.S. custody.

El-Ashry moved back to Egypt and joined the Blind Sheikh’s movement. As a result, Egyptian authorities under deposed President Hosni Mubarak jailed and tortured him in 2000 and – according to Wood – told him he had to choose between exile or the death penalty.

Back in Brooklyn, el-Ashry worked as a tailor and continued searching for converts. In 2009, U.S. authorities expelled him for immigration violations. While waiting for his deportation back to Egypt, he claims he converted six detainees and one guard in a New York holding center.

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TheGrtDcptn
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:39pm
Like animals with NO self-CONTROL…no offense to animals…

man(kind)…what a joke…

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- The_Jerk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:29pm
  Sharona Schwartz. Do I need to say anything else?
  
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- ArmedAndReallyPissed
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:42pm
  JERK-ONEOFF : We all prefer you don’t.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:46pm
  ArmedAndReallyPissed, I’m really not interested in what you are doing in your basement. Really. Having said that, as fat as American women are getting, veils may be needed in order to keep the species going.
  
  So, though not interested, I understand.
  
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- Pigpen
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:59pm
  Uh, THEGRTDCPTN, do you mean mankind or Islam? Sorry, but I don’t really feel bad about myself or my species because some spinach-bearded fool in Egypt hates Christians.
  
  Anyway, all we can expect for a response from our “illustrious” State Dept. is a promise to Egypt of more great big checks to pay this cleric not to rape Christians, to buy veils for Christian women in Egypt, and then pay the Egyptian government for schooling for both Christian and Arab women alike in order to promote “understanding.” Ug, when will we be rid of these AWFUL baby-boomers and their infantile self-absorption? YOUR CR@P DOESN’T WORK! EGYPT WILL NEVER BE AN ALLY! Either find a REAL SOLUTION or be eternally considered part of the problem, US Gov’t. Our patience with you is wearing thin!
  
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:21pm
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  We should put a pant less Muslim cleric, Hisham el-Ashry in a stockade and paint enter here on his **** at a Gay Pride festival……..
  
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- KOCHLEFFEL
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:40pm
  If a woman does not wear a veil she will be raped !Egypt our ally. What a civilized nation.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:56pm
  While the statement is horrible, I’ve heard phrases shockingly similar to this here in the US.
  
  “If you don’t want to get raped, then you better not wear that miniskirt!”
  “If you look like a whore, expect to be used like one!”
  “A girl drinking alcohol at a party is like leaving the car unlocked in the bad part of town!”
  “Wear your **** short because long **** is easier to grab!”
  “Don’t wear overalls because a rapist is likely to cut them with a knife or scissors!”
  etc, etc…
  
  Obviously there’s a difference where this cleric seems to be egging rapists on, but the message is the same: if you present yourself in a non-conservative appearance, you’re setting yourself up to be raped. Of course there are two major problems in both cases: 1) This puts responsibility (partially or completely) on the woman by ignoring her rapist, and 2) There is absolutely NO link between how a woman dresses and the likelihood of her getting raped (at least here in the US). This is because most rape occurs between people who know each other, and thus the way one dresses is not an important factor.
  
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- SolitudeBliss
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:32pm
  @THE JERK If I had to put a bag over every stupid, fat or ugly man I came across…
  
  Here’s your Bag. :-)
  
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- Desertcatn
  Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:13am
  Good grief, Locked, where do you hang out? I’ve never heard things like that!
  
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paulwbrown
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:32pm
I am sure the Current TV idiots on now Al Jazeera TV will be justifying the “rape sentence” as Allah’s will. We many not recognized some of them speaking under the cover of their tailored burkas.

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- Jim S
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:43pm
  ..and there are more than a few Christians who think AIDS is God’s punishment on gays…a billion Muslims, almost none buy into this BUT a small part of a billion is a lot…ask the dead abortion Doc about the mercy of SOME Christians…truth is truth…a small number of Muslims are nuts and say and do crazy, violent things…almost NONE of the American’s killed in the US are killed by Muslims..you have a much better chance of being killed by your Christian neighbor…or spouse…but this is true…just almost totally meaningless to almost all of us…but keep the fear going…starting to run out of war….
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:36pm
  Awww, poor Jim. Derping around. Did someone insult the religion that shall not be slandered? Poor little boy. Go back to Mother Jones, now. Go go. There ya go. Here’s some milk.
  
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- qz2026
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:38pm
  Jim S – do you hear a echo when talking through your @ss?
  
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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:31pm
  Oh, and PS JIM…gay men make up 2.5% of the population and account for 75% of new AIDS cases…while I don’t personally think God GAVE AIDS to gay people, there is certainly a case to be made that they have brought that disease upon themselves via their perversion
  
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- dcgirl
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:04pm
  Whoopie would probably say “at least it’s not “rape” rape.
  
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garbagecanlogic
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:26pm
Good solid religious practices. Every religion should have the same outlook. Along with that, all men who do not have a beard will have their pee pee cut off.

Praise Be To Obama. Psalm 109:8

The U.S. Out Of The U.N.
The U.N. Out Of The U.S.

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RaydocX
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:17pm
so instead of ‘convert or die’ it is ‘convert or be raped?’
actually, he is not demanding conversion… yet.
it’s funny that even CAIR feigns outrage when here we expect that women remove their headwear at least for photo identification, yet here, in the opposite, non-muslim women are expected to dress as if they were muslim women… or face rape… wait, that was not what was threatened here, when the ACLU got all hot and bothered…

in point of fact, muslim women in Egypt face the same total control of those in Saudi, Iran, and many other parts of the Middle East, where the fascist male dominant interpretation of the Quran allows for ‘temporary marriage’ and multiple wives and ‘punishment’ of wives including hideous physical abuse… where marital rape is not rape, and a woman raped despite her headcover is ostracized and may be killed by her family for ‘allowing it to happen.’

a twisted interpretation of the religion, maybe, but a prevelant one across the MidEast, and one our president indirectly supports by his support of those who promote it.

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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:19pm
  comming to AMERICA
  
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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:20pm
  give up your guns and it will be here all the sooner
  
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- 1FreeVoice
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:21pm
  I heard that an American court was refusing to convict someone of a crime because he was a muslim, and under sharia what he did was not criminal even though he did it in the US. I think it was a domestic abuse case, but I don’t remember the details right now. His wife had every right to be protected under our laws. Being from another country or culture is not an excuse for breaking our laws.
  
  Muslims support government based on their religion, not the constitution. Destroying the constitution is a religiously mandated goal. Islam is not separate from politics, it is the biggest political group in the world. You should study up on the “rights” of non believers under sharia.
  
  to the poster who asked why women in the middle east don’t just take their kids and flee the country: Read Not Without My Daughter, a true story about an American who married a foreigner and became trapped in his country with her daughter. She got the two of them out, but it was very difficult and dangerous.
  
  Think before you say something like that. Women under laws and social restrictions that can make it impossible (in some places) to go outside the house for a cup of coffee without being escorted by a male relative… can’t just pack up and go without money or passports or permission.
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:44pm
  The Salafi Cleric above is simply quoting what has been believed in Islam from the 7th century. Kill all the infidels, all jews that you find hiding behind a tree or rock, rape anyone you want and it is all sanctioned by their deity. I talked to a Christian man from AFrica. In his village as in many villages that are not Muslim they believe that the Prophet Mohammed was inhabited by a “JIN” that gave him his power. A “JIN” is the equivalent of a demonic spirit. The first thing the Prophet did after amassing an army is return to Medina in Saudi Arabia and begin to exterminate Christians and Jews. He “cleansed” the area of these infidels through beheading and rape. RAPE is the Islamic way and so is ethnic cleansing. Islam at its basis is murderous and genocidal and it has been this way since the 7th century. The Arabs are the world’s slave traders and have been so since antiquity. Just talk to AFrican people. Islam is enslaving AFricans left and right. One AFrican nation after another is being taken over. Mali is currently in the news but all the problems in the Sudan have to do with a Muslim Government in the North of Sudan murdering the Christian and Animist South. Look it up for yourself. Mogadishu the capital city of Somalia is owned by Al Quaeda now. They run that city.
  
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sandrunner
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:13pm
Don’t you love those muslims.

They say the most loving words.

and to all the women who voted for obama…obama and the Muslim cleric, Hisham el-Ashry are brothers of the same cloth.

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Daniel
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:12pm
So I guess using these radical’s logic, if a muslim woman wears a veil in the United States outdoors, then she is encouraging herself to be raped in the streets. This is in order to make sure she is converted to Christianity. I don’t think so. Yet this is their logic. I don’t know, but I think that part of the world is starting to look better if it became a glass parking lot. You know, some high intensity type device that turns sand into glass. I’m sure Iran is working diligently to make sure that happens, but unfortunately for them, it may backfire and Iran will become the parking lot instead or Israel.

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- seek.the.truth
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:19pm
  Question regarding their logic — is rape not considered a sin in the Muslim religion so long as it is committed against a Christian? Or is it just considered okay?
  
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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:53pm
  This cleric is a fabulous liar! It isn’t just Christian women who don’t wear the veil who will get raped. It is all women who wear the veil and all women who don’t wear the veil. In fact, a Muslim man can rape a woman of any kind for any reason and they do. Egyptian women report being sexually harrassed, touched inappropriately, and “fingered” for any reason. Muslim men can do what they want. With who they want. They can rape little boys and little girls. They are never prosecuted. My ex nephew is from Iraq. It is common for little boys to be ‘touched” getting them ready for the older men in the public bathhouses. The Prophet in the Hadith had a vision in which he saw women falling into hell. Women are for child bearing. That is it. Men are more preferred. Can you say Pashtun? I can. I love their ‘wives” in Yemen and other parts of the Middle East to be very young. As young as 9 years old. A young Muslim girl can be as young as 13 “married” off to a 40 year old man. Muslim men are groomed to be rapists, child molesters and sexual perverts. They take the cake in all three categories. This is the most sexually polluted religion in the world. I LMAO when they accuse the West of being the Great Satan. It is their title to own by their own sick behavior. They should stop pointing the finger and clean up their own filthy religion. I doubt they will. I think they doth protest too much.
  
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psadie
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:11pm
Well Lefties how do you feel about that? The Arab Spring really was a breath of democracy wasn’t it? Nothing like being raped for the hell of it!

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HollyRye
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:11pm
Thank goodness he was able to resist being corrupted by the culture during his 15 years in the US.

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Palmer1943
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:09pm
Continuing proof that Islam/Muslims are among the most vile hate filled cults that the world has ever known. They are so out side of the circle of humanity and life that there very existence is abhorrent to the civilized world.

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:03pm
  Well said and young people reared in Muslim homes are leaving that religion in droves as they wake up to alternative living in Europe and America. They don’t want this religion at all. There are many groups of Ex Muslims now.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:02pm
Once again, these are the people Obama values as allies more than the American people.

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Beachmastermax
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:57am
The religion of peace. I wonder if this is what the Muslim Clerics are praying at our presidential inauguration. I guess if Sharia law ever catches hold here we can look forward to visiting “The view” to make sure compliance is being adherred to?

Time to get a spoon and dig that one out.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:07pm
  Already here in Dearborn, MI
  
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- Rockyrose
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:08pm
  We should have seen this coming from the President’s comments about standing with Muslims in his book written before he even ran for President.
  
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commonsenseguy
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:57am
with obama and the muslim brotherhood running egypt and forcing sariah law upon their people,and now that al gore sold out to a muslim terrorist country who also forces sariah upon their people, i have yet to hear from any of the gay rights groups,we all know that gays are beaten,tortured,jailed and sometimes killed because of sariah law,i have yet to hear the outrage from women’s rights groups,because we all know that women’s are treated like ****,beaten,raped and even killed because of sariah law,but yet some how the muslim religion is suppose to be great and peaceful, and yet they continue to beat,rape,kill and even force young girls into marriage,where are all of the rights nut jobs, tha’s right if they start bitching they will make obama look bad and they can’t do that,but if it was a republican,well look out they would be all over it,so i guess they will like it when they are beaten,raped or even killed when america is forced to become a sariah ruling muslim lead country, because when it happens they will not even have a right to walk out side without permission,

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WillG
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:55am
Now back in Egypt. Outstanding,now stay there and do not come back.

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Rockyrose
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:53am
Where are those who are always speaking out about human rights? Guess they are researching all US human rights violations to show the UN.

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- floridasharkman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:03pm
  the united nations is run by muzlim oil money no doubt trying to have a sharia compliant world islam sure does look like the antichrist we were warned about
  
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IMCHRISTIAN
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:51am
Evil is evil. A lot of women in the states think they are not praised enough and I would tell them it can always be worse. Life is short and eternity is forever so be prepared. Think and do what is right morally and ethically and teach your children early to do what is right.

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Watcher1952
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:46am
When will the women of those back asswards country’s just up and leave…..take their children with them….don’t want the little one’s being subjected to pedophiles…….We need to leave all those countrys, pull our soldiers out…warn the civilians that they are on there own if they stay…..watch the crap hit the fan….they are living off of our tax dollars

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:01pm
  And go where? To your house? Make no mistake, they are a part of the problem and deserve thier fates. As will our women if they do not start thinking critically.
  
  Hopefully it will not take critical care before the critical thinking begins.
  
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ArmedAndReallyPissed
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:45am
Egyptian Cleric Warns Christian Women: If You Don’t Wear a Veil You’ll Be Raped…………………..
I’m BHO and i, along with my dear close Friends and Allies the Muslim DiaperHood, strongly approve this message.

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- commonsenseguy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:04pm
  i just wonder when we will see obamas wife in a veil,also i wonder if his young girls are already spoken for in marriage and when his wife does something he or Mohammed do not approve i wonder if he beats her. just asking,because we all know he muslim and if he is a true believer he must do as the koran tells him to do, just maybe he is a half muslim he only believes in some of the koran, just like he only believes in some of the constitution, the parts that fit his agenda.
Landon410
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:44am
islam, religion of peace and love…. do what we say or we’ll rape you…. ahh….. yes, such a great verse in the bible, oh wait a second………. almost got me with your tickery Obama

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jackact
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:43am
The big question:
Why does the Obama regime foreign policy support this madness?
How do Americans benefit from the billions spent on nation building in this 1st century hell hole?
Is Obama a Muslim?
Wake up America….. and start drlilling for oil.
Now!

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- kickagrandma
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:56am
  Yes, he is a muslime, bought and paid for by satan.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:42am
In fact, if you do wear a veil you will be raped in Egypt. If you are a woman you will be raped in Egypt. Get out of Egypt unless you want to be raped.

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taintso
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:38am
What would happen if they wore a McDonald’s McBurger Burka?

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The-Monk
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:38am
Sounds like a veiled threat to me….

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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:01pm
  lol!
  
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marybethelizabeth
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:37am
I’ve read the same sentiments many times by theblaze posters that it is a sexual attack is a woman’s fault for dressing provocatively.

The ties between Muslims and this country’s fifth column movements are alive and well. The rhetoric is the same.
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:48am
  But these are Bobo’s people. They get special access to the white house.. maybe that is why all the women are leaving, they’re getting tired of fending off rape from Bobo’s buddies.
- booger71
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:49am
  Proof………….oh you have none huh
  
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- Apple Bite
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:58am
  You’re full of it Mary. Since when was there an attack on this site against women? You truly are the ‘Sybil’ of the internet.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:03pm
  I have seen women fired at work for purposely exposing their mid riff.
  
  Funny thing is I have never seen a guy expose his mid riff at work. Does it happen or do they never think of it & act on it? If they do it then 1 time warning from HR must be enough. But somehow not with women. Were does sexual politics fit into a meritocracy?
  
  Can you defend you position Mary?
  
  I expect & demand that a women dressed to the nines showing cleavage be safe in a bar or elsewhere. I also expect & demand that the same woman who shows lots of cleavage at the work place be disciplined up to & including firing. If someone paws her at work, they should be disciplined up to & including firing.
  
  But MBE does not debate for the most part. Merely criticizes & retreats.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:06pm
  I call BS on that MARYBETH..
  
  If you can find one single example of this that wasn’t overtly tongue-in-cheek i will kiss your fat cheeks.
  Of course, libs don’t understand sarcasm so i’m sure you’ll take any example you find seriously.
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:13pm
  then stop rereading your old angry baseless attack posts, that CLAIM conservatives would blame a woman for her rape, you bigot… your willingness to throw even figurative women under the bus to demonize conservatives is a sad commentary on your awareness of what other people think, and your opinion of your fellow man.
  
  if you were not so busy struggling to convince yourself conservatives are evil, you might have read the ENDLESS posts that include protection against the rape of women among those offenses for which we support the right to keep and bear arms.
  
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- Kregneva
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:38pm
  Mr or Ms Walkabout (the second ranked one that uses “&” a lot)
  
  In America, “mid riff” means the guitarist is between two related chord sets.
  
  It has always been thus, since the birth of the Blues.
  
  Spartacus says it is so.
  
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- marybethelizabeth
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:53pm
  See Mr. Apple Bite?
  
  Search the comments under the slutwalk articles.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:31pm
  MARYBETH..
  
  I went back, as you suggested, and read the “Slutwalk” comments here:
  
  http://www.theblaze.com/stories/san-francisco-holds-second-annual-slutwalk/
  
  what i noticed about those comments, yours included, is the same thing i note here & observe about your comments most of the time.
  When conservatives intentionally misunderstand a story- they’re usually doing it to make sarcastic wise-cracks ala Fluke/ Limbaugh.
  When YOU intentionally misunderstand those comments, you do it to bait people into saying things you can further purposely misunderstand as hateful… to what end.
  One of the “Slutwalk” comments you made to me was that you do this to “show the hate”.
  I can’t help but wonder sometimes whether or not you recognize that this “trophy” you seek comes at the expense of exposing your own hatred and bias?
  Why is your duplicity infallible while theirs is not?
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:41pm
  That is a lie and you know it. No one here has said if a woman is raped it is because she asked for it. No one asks for rape, ever. You are lying. However, I am not surprised. Lying is par for the course for you progs.
  
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- WildschweinJager
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:29pm
  you lie like a prayer rug “Mary”
  
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biohazard23
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:37am
Outrage from NOW, dear leader, and the liberal democrat women in Congress in 3… 2… Oh, wait.

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Eastinfection
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:34am
Well, they can’t say they weren’t warned.

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