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Egyptian Cleric Warns Christian Women: If You Don’t Wear a Veil You’ll Be Raped

Jan. 10, 2013 11:26am Sharona Schwartz

A Salafi preacher in Egypt is promoting the idea of an anti-vice religious police force like in Saudi Arabia and says even Christian women should be veiled when they are outdoors, unless they “want to get raped on the streets.”

Reuters profiled the Muslim cleric, Hisham el-Ashry, who — while obscure — is finding sympathy for his opinions under Egypt’s new Muslim Brotherhood-led regime. Reuters reports:

“I was once asked: If I came to power, would I let Christian women remain unveiled? And I said: If they want to get raped on the streets, then they can,” Ashry told Nahar TV last week.

Introducing a Saudi-style anti-vice police force to enforce Islamic law was “not a bad thing”, he said, and added: “In order for Egypt to become fully Islamic, alcohol must be banned and all women must be covered.”

Reuters explains that Al Azhar, Sunni Islam’s top authority, and Dar al Ifta, the central authority on religious rulings, say religious practices should not be policed.

Even Egypt’s Grand Mufti Ali Gomaa rejects Hisham el-Ashry’s position. In a statement, he said: “This sort of idiotic thinking is one that seeks to further destabilize what is already a tense situation…Egypt’s religious scholars have long guided the people to act in ways that conform to their religious commitments, but have never thought this required any type of invasive policing.”

While the Muslim Brotherhood rejects individuals getting involved in imposing sharia rules, it won’t rule out the government taking on that task. Muslim Brotherhood Spokesman Mahmoud Ghozlan told Reuters: “The case of promotion of virtue and prevention of vice is within the jurisdiction of the authorities and not individuals or groups…It is not anyone’s right to intervene.”

Like Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi, the radical preacher warning Christian women to veil themselves lived for years in the United States, an experience that clearly did not moderate his views. El-Ashry moved to New York in the 1990s where he dedicated his spare time to converting Christians to Islam. Reuters explains:

“I went there with a dream to get a blonde girl and a big car,” he said in one of his televised interviews. “(But) I was advised on the plane to cherish my religion and not get taken by the USA or risk being spoiled and losing my faith.”

His religious convictions grew stronger over the next 15 years in the United States, he said.

“I had, thanks to God, guided many Christians to Islam. I can’t tell how many as I stopped counting when their number exceeded 100,” he said.

It was when he was working at a men’s clothing factory in New York that he became convinced that Egypt needed a Saudi-style anti-vice force.

“(My goal was) to make all Egyptians love it,” he said.

Now, el-Ashry is back in Egypt and continues his quest to convert new Muslims. In the fall, writer Graeme Wood described a series of meetings he held with el-Ashry over the course of a year in which the cleric instructed Wood on Salafism.

Wood wrote in The New Republic:

I NEVER ASKED MUCH of Hesham El Ashry, and Hesham never asked much of me. All I wanted was some conversation about religion and Egyptian politics with someone who had strong views on both. All Hesham wanted was one more chance to describe in grotesque detail the fate that awaited me and everybody I loved: Our skin would thicken, not with callouses but with soft, thin, tender layers, each more sensitive than the last. Eventually the accumulated layers would be miles deep. And then God—not my god, or the god of the vast majority of so-called Muslims, but the one true Allah, worshiped by Hesham’s fellow Salafis—would burn off those layers individually, savoring the pain until he reached flesh. Then Allah would restore them again, like Prometheus’s liver, so he could blister and rip them away for eternity.

“I hate you,” Wood quoted el-Ashry as saying. “I hate all Jews and Christians, anyone who is not a Muslim.”

Wood was introduced to el-Ashry by the son of the “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel-Rahman, now serving a life sentence in the U.S. for his role in bombing the World Trade Center in 1993. Wood writes that el-Ashry considers Abdel-Rahman to be his religious guide. Earlier this week, President Morsi told CNN he would like President Barack Obama to free Abdel-Rahman from U.S. custody.

El-Ashry moved back to Egypt and joined the Blind Sheikh’s movement. As a result, Egyptian authorities under deposed President Hosni Mubarak jailed and tortured him in 2000 and – according to Wood – told him he had to choose between exile or the death penalty.

Back in Brooklyn, el-Ashry worked as a tailor and continued searching for converts. In 2009, U.S. authorities expelled him for immigration violations. While waiting for his deportation back to Egypt, he claims he converted six detainees and one guard in a New York holding center.

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Comments (87)

crystalsky
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:09pm
I am a woman and I love Rush Limbaugh and I was not offended by what he said at all. He is not telling women to wear a veil or get raped yet you defend them. You are the creep so out spoken when the word slut comes up yet when things like this like raping a woman or sharia comes up you say nothing. you should be a shame of yourself. you may want to live like that but I do not. I love freedom of speech 2nd amendmend rights and the constitution. If some 1 is in this country and they allow sharia law to trump the constituton some thing is wrong in the land that is under 1 law the constitution if a woman gets raped in usa and they go by sharia law and not the constitution there would be no law in that the lady being raped under sharia would need 4 men witnesses are you a fool. Stop defending sharia law believe me go on over there they would except you with open arms. and you have a right to say what you want and I have a right to say what I want and so does Rush, Glenn, Hannity and Savage.

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carlospicywenr
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:40pm
This is what Obama and Bush called a peaceful religion, and Obama pushed hard to put this “democracy” in Egypt. The Muslims and the clerics are at the top of the list for intolerant A-holes, along with lefty atheists and liberals in general. These men would rape their own family members if they didn’t wear a veil, in their eyes all women are slaves and are the cause of sin. Thank you Obama for a much safer world for women

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singray
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:27am
I don’t post much but I do read. And Mary, this is what most here mean when they point to your inability to grasp.
YOU PROJECT THAT WHICH YOU DEFEND
You Liberals show no logic. Be honest with yourself. You claim some are out to take Womens rights away yet come here and project the evil of Conservatives. By doing this you actually defend these peoples right to abuse women. Oh yea this doesn’t affect you so no big deal right. Same with taxes, according to your side the Bush tax cuts were wrong and created our dedicit, yet in your true nature you still wanted to keep 98% of them intact. The ones that don’t affect you, right. The same ones that want gun control, while using armed security. The ones like Al Gore who get rich with a scheme and then get richer by the same enemy he was against. The same rich who say they should pay their fair share while using every shelter they can to avoid paying their fair share.
And you really think you have any credibily with people who see you and your kind for what you really are. Good luck with that. You actually hate us because we see you for what you really are. And you really know what that is. You just have the guts to see it.

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Bangstick
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:45pm
SAVAGES! We should ban all travel to and from there and cut off the money we give.

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mash4077
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:57pm
what more do you need to know about this tolerant,peaceful religion/political ideology?

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pahrumper
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:17pm
What was that I was told about Islam is a religon of peace,,,,A piece of who?

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Junter
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:13pm
The religion of peace and RAPE apparently.

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South Philly Boy
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:25pm
Wow LEGAL RAPE

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sealoquesea
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:39pm
I was 20 years old, went to a Socialist Govorned Country in Central America, and I also converted over 200 people to CHRISTIANITY, and I also stopped counting because numbers are not important. I have since married a girl that does not have my same belief in Religeon, but the same belief in GOD. GOD can be more powerful than we can imagine. And making him unhappy is not on my list of things to do. I have seen his power in Converts, I have felt his wrath literally take me to despair and bring me back out. He is real. What all this means in repect to Musilims, I don’t fully understand, If people are truely in their hearts good natured, I feel God will spare them and if they truely are evil GOD knows. It’s easy to fear him, but why, only we know ourselves as good as he does. Condemning people is not our job, but fighting for what he taught us is our job. Not allowing Tyranny in our last standing free Country is our job. Why others are so quick to condemn us as a people while we the people have little or no control over what our Govt does anymore is like condemning all muslims for the selfish acts of a few Radicals. How there can be peace is beyond me. But, bending over backwards to meet the needs of everyone but the ones that have made this Country great, seems to be contradictory. I am not proud of our GOVT, but I am not willing to give up my rights and freedom becasue the BIG 2 have more power than they should have ever had.

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:04pm
  A poll taken in Egypt tells us that over 80% of Egyptians think you should be executed for forsaking Islam.
  
  This is not a “few” problem.
  
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ripley
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:35pm
Islam is satanic, not godly.

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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:30pm
Thou shall not covet?

Infidels of the prophet Moses? Allah will burn them in hell for an eternity and laugh at them in their agony?

You don’t need to know, so you will never be told?

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SGT Rock
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:19pm
Hey false prophet preachers — how about a bunch of us Christians and Jews get together and neuter your rapist rear ends. Then you can practice another muslim practice of being an eunich.

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rixdaref
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:08pm
Reading further into Islam, I found that the religion of peace is only peace (and love and respect and honesty) toward other Muslims. Non-believers be damned…and taxed and cheated and raped and killed.
And, that’s the truth.

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qz2026
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:30pm
Ahhh, the religion of peace. Ain’t it good…

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:17pm
Christians have been in Egypt for years and years. They were one of the first countries to be visited by apostles and their Christianity is ancient. Where is the vaunted UN and their international rights for religions in relationship to Christians in Egypt. Why are we giving money to Egypt while they mistreat Christians. Are Christians legal prey? Do Christians have no rights like other religions do in other countries? Egypt will pay in their own way for harming Christians. They will see.

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dangergirl
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:40pm
Hope you’re reading this you moron Egyptian cleric. This little ole’ American patriot lady would just love to show you what happens to pieces of xxxx like you in my neck of the woods. Does the word eunuch mean anything to you little toad?

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13thCousinOfTheAntiChrist
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:24pm
So, it’s not just the goats who aren’t safe in Egypt now?

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SquidVetOhio
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:05pm
“I had, thanks to God, guided many Christians to Islam. I can’t tell how many as I stopped counting when their number exceeded 100,” he said.

Pure fantasy. Never happened.

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 1:58pm
  He must have been in an American prison. Numero uno was Cassius Clay.
  
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- qz2026
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 2:34pm
  Actually, this is likely true. If you are not a Muslim, then according to the Koran, you have three choices: 1. Convert, 2. Pay a duty, or 3. be killed. So, it is obvious that he made over 100 demands that couldn’t be ignored. This is typical and it wasn’t by the grace of God. Far from it.
  
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beggindog
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:51pm
“I went there with a dream to get a blonde girl and a big car,” he said in one of his televised interviews. “(But) I was advised on the plane to cherish my religion and not get taken by the USA or risk being spoiled and losing my faith.”
Hey Hisham. Take the girl and the car…;)

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jessieH
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 12:40pm
Yea, like THAT’S going to stop the neanderthals from rape.

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