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Meet the ‘Meanest Mother in Wyoming’ — Another Example of Good Parenting?

Jan. 10, 2013 10:00pm Mike Opelka

This advertisement in the Northern Wyoming Daily News is burning up the Internet and will probably end up being featured on “The Tonight Show” with Jay Leno.

The Meanest Mother In Wyoming Sells 16 Year Old Sons Ford Truck

Image: Facebook

The six-line ad told a powerful story:

VERY mad mother selling 16 yr. old son’s 1993 Ford Ranger. Drove 3 mos. before son forgot to use his brain and got caught driving drunk. $3500 OBO. Call meanest mother in Wyoming, 307 -2**-****.

We had to know what happened.

At first we thought the ad was too good to be true. After all, it was brought to the web by a Casper, Wyoming radio station. A dozen phone calls to the number in the ad went unanswered and the voice mailbox was full. Text messages were the only way we were able to break through and connect with Angie, the self-proclaimed “meanest mother in Wyoming.” The telephone interview that followed gave us the inside story on a used truck ad that has gone viral.

Angie is a divorced mother of two boys, 19 and 16. The youngest son is the one she said “forgot to use his brain” and ended up getting arrested for driving drunk. When her youngest turned 16, Angie bought her son the 1993 pickup truck featured in the ad. She told TheBlaze that this gift did come with a couple of conditions. He was supposed to:

Keep his grades up
Stay out of trouble (Angie said that her son was basically a good boy. However, he had one friend she feared might lead him astray.)

The young man was holding up his end of the bargain until New Year’s Eve.

That night, Angie was home, waiting up for her son to return from a date. When he missed his curfew (something he rarely did) she became concerned and sent him a text message. The reply she received was not typical. In fact, Angie told us that her son’s text message to her made her worry that he was intoxicated. She asked if he needed a ride home. He said “No, I’ll be home in an hour.”

Ninety minutes later, there was no sign of the boy. Like so many people, Angie’s son was caught up in the night’s revelry and ended up getting arrested for driving under the influence. The Wyoming State Police called the boy’s mother to come and get him and it was on the ride home that she decided to sell the truck to teach her son a lesson. Her ex-husband did not want her to sell the truck. She offered to let him buy it. He refused.

The next few days brought impassioned pleas from both her son and her ex-husband. Angie said that she held firm and placed the ad that ran on Wednesday in the local paper. A day later, the story hit the internet and Angie’s phone hasn’t stopped ringing.

Before the ad caught fire on the web, Angie did get a several calls from serious potential buyers, but as of Thursday night, she was still looking for a buyer.

Do you think Angie’s “tough love” parenting is appropriate or would you have given her son a second chance? Weigh-in below in the comments section and take our Blaze Poll.

TheBlaze removed the phone number from the ad.

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Comments (187)

PiratePhil
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:57pm
What speaks the loudest to me are the 22% of cowardly idiot fools who aren’t sure and are to spineless to have an opinion. REALLY ????????????????

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- 13a
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:06am
  I guarantee that most, if not all, of the people who voted “Yes, actions have consequences” have had a 2nd chance given to them in life. They don’t want to admit it and play dumb but everyone screws up something in life. Over 60% of you are in hardcore denial.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:22am
  13A could not agree more
  
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- cosmic dogma
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:27am
  to 13A: My daughter’s best friend died as a result of a drunk driver crashing into the car she was driving. She received no second chance. I’d say his second chance is surviving healthy and whole, with all around him healthy and whole. It is always hard to be a good parent, you aren’t a friend, you are the PARENT. The Mom has guts, and hopefully the kid will learn a lesson. He can always get another truck, he can’t get another life.
  
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- TH777
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:31am
  @13A: You don’t seem to understand the different situations regarding “second chances”. You lie to me, sure I’ll give you a second chance. You steal from me…hmmm, I may give you a second chance. You drive drunk where you could possibly kill an innocent person…..NO, no second chances!!.
  
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- JayUSArmy
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:45am
  13a: I’ve had a lot of 2nd chances. 2nd chances don’t mean you get out of all consequences of your actions. This kid will get a chance (probably, if he doesn’t get convicted of DUI) to own a vehicle later on down the line. Drunk driving is probably the most irresponsible decision I could think of. I used to have a friend that I refuse to talk to anymore because he repeatedly drunks and makes stupid and dangerous decisions. That is how strongly I feel about it. I refuse to drive if I have more than one drink with food, even though it severely limits the times when I can drink with my friends.
  
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- Bumpintheroad
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:11am
  13A
  
  This mistake was about a minor drinking and driving. His mother could possibly be saving his life by selling the truck, 60% of all teen deaths occur whilst drinking and driving. No second chances when it’s drinking and driving, period. This is NOT a small thing and I hope you don’t have children if you think it is.
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:17am
  I had a second chance. It was given to me by God.
  I was around 25, or so, and we went up to my parents cabin near Hackensack, MN. We were going to spend the week up there by ourselves, my wife, our two children and myself. I had a 125 cc motorcycle that we threw into the trunk of our 1960 Pontiac and headed out. That weekend the rest of the family came up unannounced and the party began. Everyone was riding the bike and falling down bending the handlebars. We straightened them out a few times and it was time for me to “show” them how to ride. I took off down the road and was doing fine until I got off into the sand along the shoulder of the road. It’s a dirt road. Down I went. Next thing I knew the Sheriff was putting me in his car and driving me to the clinic about 27 miles away. The Sheriff only gave me a ticket for riding without a helmet and not a DUI. He said that when I wake up and feel the pain maybe I’ll learn. I don’t remember much of it tho. Next day when I woke up with my face hurting like hell I looked in the mirror. It was like I drew a line down my face. Right was clean, Left was scabs with a bandage over the corner of my eye. I still have a bit of a scar there. My wife got pissed that night, loaded the kids in the car and left after she saw I would live. It was a LONG 200 miles home at 50 mph. I did learn my lesson and to this day at 66 years old I WILL NOT look at a Beer if I’m driving. I lived through it. God gave me a second chance.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:32am
  13a your a fool who should shut it. When you have lost family to drunken drivers come back and speak. No mistake in my life has ever included the chance of destroying the lives of innocent people. His did. The more severe the possible harm the more severe the lesson should be. Not only directly in my family but also to friends of family. My nephew and his best friend were in a crosswalk crossing with the light properly. Both 15. A woman plowed into them in the center lanes having left her lane of travel. His friends shoes were still there in the road beside him while the woman drove on a quarter mile not knowing she had just taken the life of a 15 year old honor student. In 97 when my nephew was 19 he was killed in his car just a few miles from where he survived the loss of his friend. Again alcohol involved by a person who thought they were in control of their car. By a person without a license from one too many drunk driving stops. So go ahead tell me about the second chance you demand. My nephew got one while losing his friend, but his second chance only lasted 4 more years before a drunk driver struck yet again. Take your second chance and shove it.
  
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- Rational Man
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:24am
  Besides all of the obvious personal and public safety issues, the deal made about not getting into trouble, the lying and bad judgement buy not accepting the ride home when mom offered and the irresponsibility of breaking the law by drinking in the first place (16yrs old), there is the issue of a single mom having to pay increased insurance premiums on not only his truck but every vehicle at her house. Her personal car insurance will unavoidably go up for probably 5 years just because the boy is a licensed driver with a DUI conviction and living at the same residence. Almost as if she got the DUI herself. She did the right thing and the smart thing. She might even want to consider yanking his drivers license if the local laws don’t do it for her. If it’s painful enough for the kid, maybe he will at least be less likely to do it again. Personally, I wish my mom had been tougher on me in a similar situation when I was a teenager..
  
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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 6:43am
  13A,
  
  This IS his second chance.
  
  Next time he could have ended up dead, paralyzed or a killing another.
  
  I, too, am raising two boys alone. They have to know you mean what you way, and you have to be tough. Some day when that boy becomes a parent, he will love and respect her all the more
  
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- Marcia
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 6:46am
  There are some actions that do no warrant a second chance and some that do! THIS IS NOT A SECOND CHANCE INFRACTION. He’ll learn and she can always buy him another car when he turns 21.
  
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- naughtycal
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:13am
  13A,
  You’re right but on the wrong side of it. Everyone messes up that however doesn’t mean they get off the hook because of the sins the father. Forever action good or bad theres an equal and opposite reaction….This kid over stepped his bounds and action that could have killed him and the mother when a little over her bounds an action that might have saved him.
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 8:40am
  13A & KEATON are dead wrong. No consequences would only teach the kid that anything goes, and everything will always work out fine. This mother is clearly doing the right thing. If 13A’s child was killed by a drunk kid, he’d have a very different opinion, I guarantee it. You two seem to think that all situations deserve the same tolerance level, thats a very ignorant way to think. Some situations do call for a second chance, but not this one, someone could have been killed. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:00am
  13A
  
  I have had second chances in my life but each had a consequence.
  
  This boy gets the second chance to live.
  
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- raabhimself
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:08am
  His second chance could be to get a job and buy the car back himself? He is 16…
  
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- CABERNETQHS
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:25am
  @13A
  Thanks to this mother’s conviction, this 16 year old will get a second chance. Too many teens die on the road because of this kind of a mistake. He’s just going to have to wait and think a while for his.You don’t baby a 16 year old.
  
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- Diablo4965
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:28am
  Well 13A If the kid goes out gets drunk and kills someone that person has no more chances in life!
  
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- 1956
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:33am
  Those people either don’t have children or don’t care what their kids do.
  
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- GeeWhiz
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:36am
  He’s got his second chance: he’s alive and he didn’t kill anyone, thus he’s not going to jail.
  
  When it comes to driving, whether drinking or not, there are not do-overs. This isn’t elementary school and a game of dodgeball. He will have an opportunity to purchase his own vehicle when he’s old enough to do it himself and whatever behavior he engages in, will be completely his responsibility.
  
  As a 16 year old, he is the responsiblity of his parents. THEY get to pay the price in effort, energy and money to rectify his current situation. They’re going to need that cash to pay for increased insurance for their own vehicles, and to deal with this kid’s legal fees and fines.
  
  I would tell him that he’s not being severely punished out of hand, that this is the natural consequence of acting like a total fool. In the real world, where he wants to drive, drinking and driving has consequences. That he’s getting off EASY. He could instead have his **** in jail, while sobering up, discovering that he killed someone and he’s being charged with felonies.
  
  Better to have Mom deal the consequences than the judicial system..and having to learn to live with the idea that you killed someone.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 10:11am
  13A:
  
  Sounds like you don’t understand the gravity of this kid’s laps in judgement.
  
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- SocietyOfUniversalKnowledge
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 10:18am
  @13A
  He will get a second chance and it’s rather shocking that you would think otherwise.
  It just won’t be with that truck. He’ll be held accountable for his actions, recover, and ultimately, end up with greater character and respect for his mother than he would otherwise have if she were to cave.
  We need more moms like this to help counteract the wussification of americans like you.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:09am
  @13A
  
  You don’t get a second chance, as a minor, with drunk driving.
  
  You get a second chance at love, you get a second chance to bring your grades up, you get a second chance to take back a dumb comment. You don’t get a second chance at putting yours and others lives in direct danger of death. What kind of fool thinks that a teenager who is drinking and driving was making some kind of innocent mistake? There is no shortage of anti-drinking/driving information all over the place.
  
  It’s like saying a kid deserves a second chance at a range, after he turns around with a firearm in his hand and starts point it at people and starting to pull the trigger.
  
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- HumbleMan
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:15pm
  He’s alive, and he didn’t kill anyone. Losing his privilege to actually have his own truck is not losing a second chance. He had a contract with his mom. He broke it. Tough munchies.
  
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- JDAZ
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:04pm
  13A you are correct I have had second chances, and her son will have a second chance to drive once he can purchase his own vehicle. He was lucky he did not kill or injure someone, and the consequences would be much more serious than just having to wait to borrow mom’s car.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:19pm
  JDAZ:
  
  Here’s some info on the penalties for those under 21 who get arrested for driving drunk in their state:
  
  http://dui.drivinglaws.org/wyoming.php
  
  First Wyoming DUI Offense
  1st Drunk Driving Conviction
  
  Jail – Up to 6 Months, or
  Fine – Up to $750, or Both
  License Suspension – 90 Days
  
  Ignition Interlock Device – 6 Months (Blood Alcohol Level .15 or Above)
  Substance Abuse Assessment
  
  Second Wyoming DUI Offense
  2nd Drunk Driving Conviction
  
  Jail – From 7 Days to 6 Months
  Fine – From $250 to $750
  License Suspension – 1 Year
  
  Ignition Interlock Device – 1 Year
  Substance Abuse Assessment
  
  Third Wyoming DUI Offense
  3rd Drunk Driving Conviction
  
  Jail – From 30 Days to 6 Months
  Fine – From $750 to $3,000
  License Suspension – 3 Years
  
  Ignition Interlock Device – 2 Years
  Substance Abuse Assessment
  
  Other Possibilities
  
  Probation
  Inpatient Treatment Program
  Alcohol Education Program
  
  Fourth Wyoming DUI Offense
  4th Drunk Driving Conviction
  
  Felony
  Jail – Up to 2 Years
  Fine – Up to $10,000
  License Suspension
  
  Ignition Interlock Device – Life (May Apply for Removal After 5 Years)
  
  Other Possibilities
  
  Probation
  Inpatient Treatment Program
  Substance Abuse Assessment
  Alcohol Education Program
  
  They are surprisingly lenient.
  
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- beesknow
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:38pm
  sounds like 13A might be 13 yrs old
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:11pm
  13A, his second chance is that he’s alive and at 16 has a chance to learn from this and has a mother willing to teach him instead of coddle him and enable him to keep doing it. Many teenagers who drive drunk pay the ultimate price for their stupidity. Now he’s alive and can save up money to buy his own.
  
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- CB11
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:09pm
  Ther is no second chance when your dead!
  
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- richfriedel
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:17pm
  I live in Montana and for one would like to say, ALL you weak minded easterners (that’s those living in the eastern part of the USA) take a lesson from this Western Mom and you will have less crime. That’s just how we ride here in the West.
  
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- Marlyn
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:56pm
  I do not agree. Had he been home close to his curfew, and simply been ticketed for speeding (as in I was trying to get home on time… wink wink) I would consider the second chance theory as being very much in the running. Probably would have grounded for tardiness and to give him time to think about the dangers of speeding. MAY have helped to pay that first ticket — expecting him to pay it back. BUT this was not simply a speeding ticket, and was NOT just a little late, even after texting he’d be home soon. Sorry, this involved underage drinking, driving while under the influence (How many were with him in that truck??) endangering himself and others (those in the truck with him, and those outside his truck). Had he said “YES, Mom — I need a ride home” when she asked, THEN a second chance may have been extended. BUT HE DID NOT DO THAT, either! THAT WAS his second chance, as far as I am concerned!!!
  
  And you can ask my now adult kids. I was the Meanest Mom (also most OLD-FASHIONED MOM) in the whole world in the day, and they lived because of it. I was a PARENT, and NOW I am their friend. I was the ONLY PARENT for most of that time, too.
  
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- GIVEMBOTHBARRELS
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:08pm
  60% of us are cowards? How about this numb nuts….driving is a privilege, not a right. Young teen, after putting his, and other innocent peoples lives at risk, because he chose to drive under the influence, will get a second chance….when he is 18.
  
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- donwann
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 2:24am
  Where are you 13alpha and keaton33? Ya’ll giving each other a second chance or just a reach around?
  
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- 912network
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 4:04am
  13A & KEATONC33 are clearly far too young to be trusted with the keys to a car, much less alcohol, and let’s face it: they have proven themselves too young to be responsible with a keyboard.
  
  The fact of the matter is that the kid could have slaughtered innocent people.
  
  What the kid did was just as bad as taking a loaded AK-47 and spraying bullets into a crowd, but not hitting anybody.
  
  His second chance is when nobody fires back and kills him. In his case, the fact that he made it home alive, and he’ll be able to purchase his own vehicle when he’s older, and earns the money to buy one, IS HIS SECOND CHANCE.
  
  The families of the tens of thousands of innocent people slaughtered each year here in America at the hands of illegal aliens, legal residents, and American citizens, who chose to risk it and drive while intoxicated by alcohol or other drugs, won’t EVER get a second chance in his life.
  
  So for the horrendously selfish, immature children (who clearly aren’t mature enough to handle the computers/phones their parents bought them, much less keys to a vehicle), who impotently rage at those of us who dare to express an opinion which exhibits maturity, experience, responsibility, common sense, fairness, logic, reason, and intelligence, seriously, shut up and back away from the keyboard.
  
  You’re welcome back once you grow up and learn responsibility, common sense, logic, reason, fairness, and common sense. Oh, yeah…and after you repent for voting for the Com
  
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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 10:54am
  Gee…meanest-mom buys her son a vehicle-to-drive…and he-the-imbicile drives-drunk and she confiscates HER TRUCK and SELLS HER-TRUCK-NOT-HIS!! Ma owns the title and she can sell it anytime SHE wants to!! The “kid” is 100%-supported by MA !! If he got offa is dead-azz and gota job and payedfor his-own truck, she could not interfere.
  
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blackyb
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:52pm
I voted i’m not certain, but on second thought I am glad she did. I probably would not have had the strength of determination she has. She is right if she made that decision, afterall, she is his mother and knows her business and his. She is the boss and he lives with he, so her decision should be honored.

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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:58am
  Good for this mom she is teaching her son to be responsible, to have values, to respect boundaries.
  Speaking of teaching:
  
  Do you know who the Fabians (with logo of wolf in sheep’s clothing); SDS, Frankfurt School and Willi Munzenberg, Herbert Markusa and Franz Noima; John Dewey, Antonio Gramsci, Mattechine Society, Saul Alinski (who dedicated his book which Obama taught for years in Chicago “Rules for Radicals” to Lucifer) was a disciple of Gramsci used to train at the rifle range with Leon Despres preparing for the revolution to take down America, later became a mentor to Obama and.Committees of Correspondence are? Connect all the dots that allowed Obama to waltz into the White House..
  
  Agenda to create an America so corrupt it stinks; use public policy to subvert America from inside, infiltrate and influence our culture to break down basic rules of morality driving us in a direction designed to destroy us. . No conspiracy – just verifiable facts! If you don’t know all this you need to find out!
  
  This is the most comprehensive, best, movie I have seen pulling all this together. I have watched it 12X to absorb all that is in it…give it 5 minutes and you won’t be able to walk away
  
  Watch it. Share it. Arrange a showing in church, groups, clubs, with friends or family. Everyone who loves America needs to see this movie,
  It is free on line for the moment
  https://vimeo.com/52009124
  America may not get a 2nd chance if the enemies within have their way.
  
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stm62
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:40pm
Drunk driving is STILL not taken as seriously as it should be in America. Cudos to the mom for standing her ground, but make the son get a job and buy his own vehicle.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:36am
  I agree .. my son got into an accident when he was 16 … he wasn’t drunk driving or the car would have been gone .. he had to get a job and pay for the deductible on the car repairs.. and lost privileges to drive it ANYWHERE besides work and school for 6 months. btw .. he has worked ever since….. Does that make me a “mean mom” too? .. he has thanked me for making him into the person he is today ..
  
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- Rational Man
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:27am
  Besides all of the obvious personal and public safety issues, the deal made about not getting into trouble, the lying and bad judgement buy not accepting the ride home when mom offered and the irresponsibility of breaking the law by drinking in the first place (16yrs old), there is the issue of a single mom having to pay increased insurance premiums on not only his truck but every vehicle at her house. Her personal car insurance will unavoidably go up for probably 5 years just because the boy is a licensed driver with a DUI conviction and living at the same residence. Almost as if she got the DUI herself. She did the right thing and the smart thing. She might even want to consider yanking his drivers license if the local laws don’t do it for her. If it’s painful enough for the kid, maybe he will at least be less likely to do it again. Personally, I wish my mom had been tougher on me in a similar situation when I was a teenager…
  
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Metallicat
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:25pm
Driving drunk is not as hard as people think. I became quite skilled at it. The key is learning how to handle your booze,and knowing your limitations. Also,knowing that I had my drinking buddies life in my hands always kept me alert and my head up. But I admit,the ignorance and immortality of youth made me reckless,and I would not want anyones life in my hands if I were impaired today,under any conditions. Whats ironic is that after all the drinking and driving I did in my younger years without an accident or getting caught, I was sober when I almost lost my life in an accident.

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- 13a
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:49pm
  Same here. I learned to how to drive drunk home and many times I would have a friend driving behind me just to make sure I was alright. Luckily, I was never pulled over, never had an accident, never drove all over the road, etc. Also drove under the influence of a myriad of drugs. I would not recommend anyone drive under the influence like I used to. Ironically, my worst wreck happened after I quit even using drugs or alcohol.
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:50pm
  Remember the old saying ” IF Mom’s NOT HAPPY …NOBODY NOT HAPPY….
  well Mom’s NOT HAPPY!!!
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:05am
  @13A
  Glad you made it through it all. growing up in America is not as safe as everyone thinks. too many pressures. too many bad influences. stay safe.
  
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- Moment of Clarity
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:31am
  13A – i’m sure the friend following you could have grabbed the wheel as you went off the road …
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 10:02am
  Drunks always think driving drunk isn’t that hard and they know their limits and can “handle” the vehicle. Yeah…and monkeys might fly out of my ****…
  99% of all people that get arrested for a DWI or DUI have admitted that they did the same thing dozens of times before and they don’t understand what the problem was because they made it home safe. It is the cry of the alcoholic, denial and then anger.
  And the law has already told you your limitations…an average man can have 2-3 beers in an hour..and that will not put him over the limit for the rest of the night…but most don’t only drink for an hour, nor do they drink on a full stomach. they hit the bar after work or not until 9-10pm on a Friday or Saturday, drink until 2am and then drive home with a dozen or so drinks in them for the night.
  The funniest thing is that last call is usually 30 minutes before close. GREAT!! So alcohol takes about 4 hours to get out of the system. So if you start drinking at 10pm, by 2am your first drink is gone, but you had 10 more after that, so the last drink leaves your system at 5:30 am or so and from 11pm -4am you are over the limit and SH!@F@C#D but you think you are okay simply because “you can handle your alcohol and know your limit” and have done it 100′s of times before..
  
  except that one time where you killed an entire family in their mini van that was coming home late from grandma’s house…what is 4-6 people’s death after all..
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 10:28am
  13A, having someone drive behind you? Why, so they could pull your body from the wreckage? You sound like a total imbecile.
  
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- fordfan
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:14am
  This woman is NOT mean! Mean is beating him right up to the edge of unconsciousness for doing it first and THEN selling the truck. I’ve been where this mom is twice now with one of my kids and it’s SCARY and it SUCKS!! Where I live, you DON’T just go pick the kid up. They WILL spend the night in jail in what most people refer to as the general population. I wouldn’t have picked him up anyway and if I had not had the extra money to bail him out, he could stay locked up til the judge could see him.
  I had told both my kids plain and simple since they could actually understand (about 12 years old), you do something to break the law that gets you arrested, you WILL NOT see me that night! On top of that I also told them if I caught them with an illegal drug of some sort or just generally committing a crime, they best get ready, I would be calling the police myself.
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:47am
  Did you guys watch the West Point Army Ranger Lt. Col on Glenn last week? The studies show that first person shooter type games have actually increased target accuracy in people, especially kids. He talked of a 3rd grade student, no gun in the house, stole a neighbors pistol and two clips. Practiced in a field that night, he sneaked out after the family went to sleep. He went to school the next day and fired 10 rounds at his classmates as they sat in a circle, 8 kills 5 by headshot.
  Those under 25 actually are able to squeeze the trigger and are damn good at it.. the whole premise of the study was to show that those under 25 view killing as “points” and “victory” in the game, not death of people.
  He said the video games teach the same practices that LEO and Military worldwide teach, automatic response. Your muscle memory takes over when you see the target, even if that target is a child. Point, shot. No thought. It is who we get our soldiers over the innate fear of killing another human being. Shot the man shaped target, over and over and over until it is just a target, not a person anymore.
  I have always known that video games of any type build hand-eye coordination, but these studies took it to new levels with violent shooting games.
  Makes you think, I know I get butterflies just thinking about pulling that trigger but I believe I will if it comes to it. Nobody knows till it happens.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:22pm
  There are a lot of drunk drivers who actually think they’re driving ok when they’re drunk. Alcohol distorts your perception. If someone were to film you driving drunk inside and outside the car and you watch it later sober, you’ll see just how “well” you’re actually driving.
  
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Diane TX
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:25pm
This is a very good mom. When a parent sets the rules, THEY MUST NOT WAFFLE ON THEM! The kid abused the very nice gift his mom gave him, and I hope his next vehicle is one that he has to earn the money to buy.

Don’t forget you far left “Citizens of the World”, a sixteen year old having a vehicle to drive in the rest of the World is a very rare event.

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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:01am
  Get him one of those nice smart cars… LOL
  Kid will never drive it!
  
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The-Monk
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:16pm
After much thought…. park the truck and give it back when he turns 18 if he stays out of trouble.

The lesson will be learned, he’ll see the truck everyday as a reminder and a goal to work towards.

And the thought of what is he going to do for transportation at 18 will not weigh on him

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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:21pm
  Hi Mike O,
  
  I choose #4. There is a better solution to this situation. : )
  
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- brigott
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:45pm
  Better to sell it, invest the money, and let him buy his own when he turns 18.
  
  Why should she let her money sit idle for two years?
  
  He had his chance. He blew it. He needs to know that mom means what she says.
  
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- Bombgod1
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:41am
  Having the truck around would just make it harder and harder for mom to do the “right thing” Punishments are often forgotten about as the days, weeks or months roll on. She did the correct thing buy selling it, once it is sold that is. The kid is 16, he has his whole life in front of him, and he will get another car. My kids did not have a liscense (never could spell) until they were 18, so I don’t feel for the kid.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:43am
  Hey Monk-
  That’s a very practical solution but some states require you to keep “parked” vehicles registered & insured (to discourage residential eyesores). NC is becoming one big HOA.
  
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Snaker
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:04pm
Way-To-Go, MOM!!! You did the right thing! As a fellow Wyomingite, this young man needs to learn the “Code of the West,” and “Cowboy Ethics”: Honor your word; More doing-less Talking; Do what you say you’re gonna do; Fulfill your obligations; and many others. You had to teach him a lesson and thereby save his life! GREAT JOB, Mom! YOU, Mom, ARE A CHAMPION! I pray this boy “pulls-his-head-out”, respects his mother, graduates from high school and “makes-something” of himself.

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bdandsl
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:00pm
I’m on her side. The selling of the truck will have far more an impact than anything the judge will impose.

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pshill2012
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:56pm
She done the right thing to do, he could of killed or hurt someone or himself. I would have took the truck away or sold it. Then he would have been grounded at home for a long time. No computers, phone and other devices. Chores around the house he would have to do. I guess I am a mean Mom too.

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Jake Dog2
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:48pm
@13A
Would rather have a dead 16yo son?

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christos
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:47pm
Hardly Mean,yet why on Earth would she buy the teen a vehicle,he needs to buy his own,,,,SPOILED.

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- circleDwagons
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:10pm
  Who in their right mind buys their 16yr old a vehicle? I have a 89 ford that my 5yr old might borrow when she is 16.
  
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- JSStryker
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:10pm
  My father bought me my first car at 16, a 66 Ford Fairlaine, of course I paid him back for it $600.
  
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neverending
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:42pm
Good for her. Just think too many kids get a second chance even after something like this. Parents have been too lenient and now many prices being paid for it. It all begins with obeying the rule of law and respect for others.

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- mrspeedwagon
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:54pm
  Why is this even be a debate? A 16 yr old with a D.U.I. Should lose their liscense till they are 18.
  
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HigherRoad
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:40pm
Mom did the right thing? Absolutely!

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- strwbryblonde
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:53pm
  Amen! Driving is a privilege…not a right!!
  
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- Xyskalla
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:28am
  I don’t understand why this is even in question.
  
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- HigherRoad
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 8:19am
  This is in question because in today’s permissive society, right is wrong and wrong is right. Parents are taken to task for setting boundaries for their children. Spanking is now considered “child abuse.” Parents who set limits and controls on their children should be supported. This would not have been news if Mom had just said, “Well, Son, we are all bound to make mistakes. You go right ahead, drink and drive and get yourself killed or kill somebody else.” If the young man had, indeed, been killed in a drunk driving incident, the libs would demand car manufacturers make cars safer for those who are exercising their right to be stoned or drunk while driving.
  
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WalterProutPhoenix56317
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:38pm
That’s what’s wrong with SOCIETY today, it’s DICTATING what responsibility the parents have in raising their own Flesh and Blood !

Some Fathers and Mothers grew up the HARD-WAY, in their own lives and when they have children of their own, They try not having their children experience the same hardships. I know that doesn’t mean anything today because it doesn’t make any sense since where now seeing a Breakdown of responsibility.

Sometimes it’s hard to agree with a Mother who says to her children ” By GOD, I brought you in this world and by GOD, I can take you out if you don’t listen to me “.

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TommyGuns
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:38pm
For those who say the boy deserves a second chance, what would your opinion be if he’d hit someone? Simply because he didn’t, it doesn’t make his violation of his mother’s trust, not to mention the law, any less. We spend too much time making excuses for our kids. The result is that we’re raising a generation of kids who lack a sense of responsibility, and most of them have never been held accountable for what they do. This will be a valuable life lesson.

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- WalterProutPhoenix56317
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:54pm
  Isn’t the whole idea behind Parenting is too help the next generation do the RIGHT THING ?
  
  I often wondered why even having children is a GOOD THING because from where am sitting, it’s nothing to look forward too anyway !
  
  I, don’t have any facts to bring here but am willing to bet that NO PARENT, realizes that there is 1 switch that’s considered more DANGEROUS in a modern home !
  
  Know what it is ?
  
  It’s the switch for the GARBAGE DISPOSAL !
  
  You don’t see any warning or caution stickers on those switch plates do you ?
  
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Metallicat
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:36pm
I did the same stuff when I was a teenager. I was smart enough not to get caught. I’d give him a second chance if he agreed to carry the burden of his punishment and paid for his crimes.

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- TH777
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:47pm
  Sorry but I don’t agree. His “second” chance may be the last for some one on the road that he may hit while driving drunk again. There are some things a person should not be allowed a “second chance” at and this is one of them.
  
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- o0o
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:55pm
  You mean lucky enough not to get caught!!
  
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- Metallicat
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:57pm
  in hindsight though, I’m thankful my parents didnt kill me themselves for all the worrying I put them through. If I could do it over again,I would have been a better son and not been such a pain in the arse.
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:47am
  METAL, not getting caught had ZERO to do with being smart. Thats a very stupid statement. You seem to have no ability to use logic and common sense. People like you who have children, raise dangerous idiots, or bury them before their time.
  
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CommonSenseTalk
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:35pm
If he had killed your wife, your child, should he keep the truck? should he get another chance to drive drunk? When he is 18 and out of school, he can work and buy a truck. Good for you mom, keep up the good work. and dad, you better get with the program or get your bail money ready now. There are things that you never get another chance at.

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- TH777
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:43pm
  Great post! I agree 100%!!
  
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- The Jewish Avenger
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:09am
  I guarantee IF he does have to by his own truck, he MAY actually think twice before driving drunk… Noticed I said may… He still has Superman complex to get through…
  
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The-Monk
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:31pm
If he’s 18 and the truck is in his name AND he is a progressives liberal the ACLU will step in and sue the Mom.

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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:42pm
  Oops….I saw the 16 as 18.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:46pm
  Perhaps park the truck and give it back when he turns 18….
  
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- Simonne
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 5:42am
  Parking the truck until he is 18 is a good suggestion. He will definitely never forget this lesson so you have to admire the mother for standing strong on this.
  
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woodcellar
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:26pm
The second time maybe a fatal accident. Tough love is best. Helps keep them on this side of the grass.

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WeRunDCnotThem
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:26pm
I love living in the big WYO! Where the women are scarce and the sheep are scared. This mom will eventually do the right thing when the Justice Brothers get involved. I would have done the same thing to my kid but it would read ” my son can no longer drive since my size 12 occupies one of his body cavities”

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fridaysgirl
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:25pm
It takes great courage to be a great parent. Kudos to this courageous mother! I hope she sticks to her guns and doesn’t get him a new truck down the road.
A second chance would have been for coming home and hour and a half late and sober. Drinking and driving at 16 is HUGE and requires serious action on the part of the parents. Good to see that at least the mother has some perspective.

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fridaysgirl
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:20pm
It takes great courage to be a great parent. Kudos to this courageous mother, I hope she sticks by her decision and doesn’t get him a new car down the road.
Taking his keys and giving him a second chance would have been appropriate for coming home an hour and a half late and sober. Drinking and driving at 16 is a huge red flag and serious action was required. I’m proud to share Wyoming as my home state with this mom!

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:29pm
  Ditto.
  Courage under fire mom. Teach the kid tough now and later he’ll thank you.
  FEW parents know or follow this anymore.
  
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TotallyNotATroll
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:17pm
Um, 16 and DUI? If you second chance him for this one, he’s gone.

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- Magyar
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:36pm
  Old or young they NEVER consider the risk to the other drivers on the road with them.
  
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thekriplins13
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:09pm
I did the exact same thing to my Son last year !! The only problem was I was having to take him to work all the time. I let him get another car a few months later and he was disrespectful once again. He has his car but it is now on his Dads insurance…. and has since got himself a speeding ticket 25 OVER !! He is 18 now so live and learn boy and you get to take a pay check and pay that damn fine too.

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- Bluebonnet
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:06pm
  We were all kids once and they all deserve a 2nd and sometimes 3rd chance, but have to pay the piper too.
  Often I think about my teenage son who was told he had to be in by a certain time. My leverage was that if he wasn’t home by that time, I’d get on the phone and call all his friends homes until I found him. The embarrassment was the threat.
  Also, when he got home, he was to come to the bedroom door and announce he was home and he had to wait for an answer. On Saturday nights, that’s the only time I ever watched SNL and I’d get up and watch the program with him. Those were the days when it was a funny program, these days it’s pure trash.
  We all had a good relationship and there were few problems that couldn’t be worked out. At least he knew he had reasonable parents who loved him and cared about his welfare.
  
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13a
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:05pm
Everyone deserves a second chance.

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- randy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:12pm
  BS….. He knew the rules.. Actions has consequences….
  Good for you Mom!
  
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- InquisitiveDebbie
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:13pm
  A 16 years old boy deserves a 2nd chance? Seriously?!?
  
  Let his mother decide when, AFTER he has earned his second chance.
  
  It certainly sounds like this meanest mother is a great Mom! He should be honored to have her.
  
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- HollyRye
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:20pm
  Tell that to the families of people killed by drunk drivers.
  
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- TSUNAMI_22
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:20pm
  Let him man-up and take his medicine in accordance with his conviction. If his mother owned the truck she has every right to do what she will with it.
  
  Some people have to learn personal responsibility the hard way.
  
  Driving isn’t a ‘right’, it’s a privilege.
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:22pm
  13a;
  
  Have you read the ‘Overton Window’?
  
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- 13a
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:26pm
  you guys are Nazis!
  
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- Kalidor835
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:28pm
  If it were my child having their truck sold would be the least of their worries.
  
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- Guitarcarl
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:29pm
  13A, Really!? The prisons are full of people who should have had moms like this awesome mom.
  
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- o0o
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:52pm
  He doesn’t deserve a second chance at this time. His second chance comes when he shows he can be a responsible human being and follow the rules.
  
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- TH777
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:59pm
  @13A: I hope a loved one of yours is not on the road during his “second chance”.
  
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- 13a
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:59pm
  She suspected that her son was already drunk (by the drunk texts he was sending her) and then she tells him to drive him anyway. Wow. Awesome parenting there, Angie.
  
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- RaydocX
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:54am
  Who said he won’t get another chance?
  He knew the rules.
  Even if he drank by accident, he put himself and others at risk, and betrayed his mother’s trust.
  When it was weed, I chose to appear at mcd’s and escort my oldest out in front of his friends and he lost his car for 2 weeks… Riding the bus as a junior is a special punishment.
  So this is more then I chose to do, but I support the lesson.
  And no one said he can’t drive again… If he buys the car. So he’ll get his second chance.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:01am
  13a “She suspected that her son was already drunk (by the drunk texts he was sending her) and then she tells him to drive him anyway. Wow. Awesome parenting there, Angie.”
  
  Your twisting the facts does not support your failed agenda of blaming the mom in this thread. I should have realized your handle indicates your age. Ironically I have known people younger than you who demonstrated vastly superior maturity than you are.
  
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- Moment of Clarity
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:39am
  my wife got a 2nd chance, and a 3rd … countless times … her luck finally ran out …
  
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- andrew36
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 5:06am
  I must have missed something 13A, is he dead?. If not how doesnt he get a second chance. Driving drunk is not something to be laughed at, by the way whats the legal age for drinking?
  
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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:10am
  13A, you avoided the question I asked. Are all situations deserving of a second chance? You made a blanket statement “everyone deserves a second chance” Does that apply to everyone in every situation???? Yes or NO?? If he killed someone that night, should he get a second chance and be allowed to drive the next day? Mom did the BEST thing for her son, she’s teaching him that poor decisions will have negative consequences. Thats how people learn. Smarten up and think about the unintended consequences of your approach.
  
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- JSStryker
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:15pm
  13A you just invoked Godwin’s Law, means you just lost the argument.
  
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