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Meeting Between NRA and Joe Biden-Led Gun Task Force Didn’t Go Well

Jan. 10, 2013 4:19pm Jason Howerton

WASHINGTON, DC – JANUARY 10: U.S. Vice President Joe Biden makes brief remarks to the press after a meeting with Cabinet members and sportsmen’s, wildlife and gun interest groups at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building January 10, 2013 in Washington, DC. U.S. President Barack Obama appointed Biden to oversee a task force on gun violence and also was to meet with a representative of National Rifle Association (NRA) in a second day of meetings. Credit: Getty Images

The National Rifle Association on Thursday met with Vice President Joe Biden and the gun violence task force created by President Barack Obama to address gun-related violent crime. As you may have expected, the NRA and the Obama administration didn’t agree on much.

In a statement released shortly after Thursday’s meeting, the NRA said it was “disappointed with how little” the meeting “had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment.” Read the entire statement below (emphasis added):

The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today’s White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.

We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners – honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation’s most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works – and what does not.

On Wednesday, the vice president hinted that Obama may take “executive action” to crack down on firearms.

Biden and the task force will reportedly submit a list of proposals to the president by Tuesday. After that, “president is going to act,” according to Biden.

Biden said that while he had not finalized his recommendations, a consensus was emerging over banning assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, as well as potentially implementing “universal background checks.” He said tightening background checks would include closing the so-called gun show loophole but also requiring background checks for all transactions, even private sales.

The president hopes to announce his administration’s next steps to tackle gun violence shortly after he is sworn in for a second term and has pledged to push for new measures in his State of the Union address.

This story may be updated with additional comments from Vice President Joe Biden.

Featured image via Getty

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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Comments (372)

USAREALIST
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:39pm
They used the NRA meeting for PR. Everyday we are reminded that we are on course to doomsday. God be with us all against these oppressors. They started abroad without any of us even aware of it. Now they are coming here to tackle the last major obstacle. AMERICA. No one was watching as they enslaved Palestine, Iraq, Afganistan, Vietnam, S. Korea and so on. Now the proof is in the pudding

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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:42pm
  EXACTLY !
  
  They brought the NRA as a horse and pony show, that they are reaching ‘across the aisle’ but they had NO intention to listen.
  
  Again, this is only to phase out a voting block. This ‘fight’ is an attempt to get rid of one more voting block by this administration. Not against weapons…
  
  He has evidenced that over the years. e.g. The white, rifle bearing, bible thumpers in Pennsylvania during his ’08 run
  
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- aproudinfidel
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:48pm
  Be afraid America, be very afraid. These communists have but one goal – an unarmed America that they can trample at will.
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:53pm
  “Meeting Between NRA and Joe Biden-Led Gun Task Force Didn’t Go Well”
  
  Who thought that it would? When will people begin to understand that meetings are nothing but a shill game to communists. It’s all about the appearance of being diplomatic, when in the end, they do what they want; legally or illegally.
  
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:57pm
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  I hate every POS PC White Traitor to your Country Obama Voting Moron Free Lunch Slave there is…
  
  Now come try to take my guns………….
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:57pm
  I also want to know what Wal-Mart thought. What did they try and strong arm them into?
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:59pm
  What? Did ole Joe forget where the meeting was?
  
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- The_Jerk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:02pm
  Sorry, was going to write shill, then changed to shell game… just forgot to change shill to shell.
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:03pm
  The leftist democrats don’t want to solve any problem; all they want is unfettered power; to get to the root, look at where the gun crime is taking place……in the black community……(hear the calls of raceistist ‘*******’) it is true; look at all the gun fatalaties in Chicogoland, and not a peep; have one mad man in CN and you’d think the Russians had landed…..hypocrites all……..Join the NRA today…. check out http://www.NRA-ILA.org….get in the fight.
  
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- wfd958
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:06pm
  Obama signed a law giving him liftime secret service protection, yet he wants the rest of us to go without any means of protection. Banning gus, and yes knives , Thats The pot talking!
  
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- 65Mustang
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:26pm
  CAVALLO: exactly, Obama, “we will hold our boots to their throat.” Obama’s administration = Mafia…one and the same.
  
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- mtcountrygrl
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:47pm
  And none of those things they listed would have stopped the CT shooting. He used regular hand guns without “high capacity” clips, he simply switched guns when he ran out of bullets. The guns were legally purchased and the owner was background checked and waited the waiting period, he stole them. None of these laws would have stopped this shooting.
  
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- henryKnox
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:51pm
  I personally have vowed to not have any interaction with anyone that voted for the Communist in Chief. I refuse to interact even with people in my family who I’m aware voted for That Guy. I refuse to do business with businesses that donated to his campaign and refuse to talk to former friends. We must stand together and make it clear that the divider in chief is anti-American.
  
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- 000degrees
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:54pm
  It’s a shame but the community organizer has organized some evil people against our country. A new chance to be a patriot is soon to be upon us. ….all enemies, foreign and domestic…..
  
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- mikem1969
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:55pm
  As most of us on the blaze know, this was never about gun CONTROL anyway, just CONTROL. The left seeks to do this through fear mongering so people will give up liberty for security. I never will, I will keep my weapons, and defend my family, myself, and the constitution to my dying breath. They have people so afraid that in places that have open carry laws, people freak out when they see someone carrying a gun. Once fear rules the majority they will come for the guns. Little hitler is about to draw a line in the sand if he issues an executive order against the 2nd amendment and I fear that this will be the beginning of the next civil war. LOCK AND LOAD.
  
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- USAREALIST
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:56pm
  Did i forget to mention LIBYA. One thing in common with these so called “DICTATORS” they have overthrown and killed. All did not have CENTRAL BANKS. Well, now they will.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:01pm
  Did anyone expect them to listen. They have one goal and one goal only. Taking our guns. They cannot complete their agenda without it. All you have to do is look at history to see that. Those who try to convince themselves otherwise or that we can stop them in congress or end it with the next election, are simply refusing to look at the facts. The man isn’t even inaugurated into his second term and has begun the attack on us. It’s going to get bad, really bad and if you can’t see that then you are simply wearing blinders or are in denial. It’s here and it is happening. Heck we even have the former media mouthpiece of the Soviet Union telling us don’t give up your guns. They see it because they saw it happen and they know what is coming for us.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:02pm
  Trust me when I say this….this president wants an uprising by law abiding gun owners. He needs it because its the only way he can fulfill his agenda for the destruction of this great country. He needs a conflict between what he will call white racist gun owners who only own guns because of their bigotry and hate for the black man…he will try to make us out to be the bad guys that don’t care if children die…and the liberal media machine do his dirty work for him.
  
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- subic
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:05pm
  Mass dem rep Linsky proposes liability insurance and extensive mental health screen to purchase a gun, lol
  
  http://www.wbur.org/2013/01/03/mass-gun-control
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:08pm
  mtcountrygrl
  “And none of those things they listed would have stopped the CT shooting. He used regular hand guns without “high capacity” clips, he simply switched guns when he ran out of bullets. The guns were legally purchased and the owner was background checked and waited the waiting period, he stole them. None of these laws would have stopped this shooting.”
  
  You’ve got it right on.
  
  And none of these proposals have anything to do with making children safer and everything to do with incrementally watering down the second amendment so that these leftis geeks can impose their will on the citizenry as they see fit without having to worry about an armed populace who can fight back if need be.
  
  77% of all murders with guns can be attributed to ghetto or gang banger crime yet there has been absolutely zero suggestions as to what can be done to curb gun violence in the urban areas where it occurs mostly.
  
  Obviousaly their aim is not to make society safer, because Britain has banned guns but has the highest crime rate in Europe. And Mexico has the strictest gun bans in the world, yet has had 57,000 murders in the last 6 years.These leftist pigs know that. Their obvious goal is disarmament, and only a fool would be unable to see that they’re only pretending to want to improve safety.
  
  It;’s time for civil war.
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:25pm
  “Meeting Between NRA and Joe Biden-Led Gun Task Force Didn’t Go Well”
  
  HAN SOLO: “Bring ‘em on! I’d prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around!”
  (And Han shoots first!)
  -with apologies to George “I’m a ’60s, West Coast, liberal, radical, artsy, dyed-in-the-wool 99 percenter before there was such a thing” Lucas and his Star Wars
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:27pm
  “Meeting Between NRA and Joe Biden-Led Gun Task Force Didn’t Go Well”
  
  UPDATE (above picture caption): “Oh, yeah? Well mine’s this big! How about yours?”
  
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- 509Ptrooper
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:43pm
  They are the “LOCUST”
  
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- wordsofwisdom
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:57pm
  They are only interested in exploiting a tragedy in their efforts to take total control of YOU! This kind of exploitation is a display of their inner thought process. They march to the beat of a different drum. This is their song “The Devils Song” http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_10789987
  
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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:39pm
  canb anyone tell me WHY this government will not allow our military to use hollowpoint bullets..YET the department of homeland security orders 1.5 billion rounds of ammo our military can’t have…???
  
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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:54pm
  @Bum thrower i hate to say it but the Russians have landed,for training on how to take our Country from us and the irony is we probably are paying them to do it ;(
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:09pm
  James Yeager, a surrogate for the NRA has made the following important statement: “If it goes one inch further, I’m going to start killing people.” Check it out:
  
  http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/guns/video-tactical-response-ceo-james-yeager-threatens-start-killing-people-if-obama
- RogueCop
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:14pm
  Ladies and gentlemen. I do not speak for all Law enforcement but I do know for a fact that many feel the same way I do. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution which includes the 2nd amendment. I will NOT participate in disarming the public. I will refuse any unlawful order that furthers that cause. Period! Now what, gun grabbers? people in LE are not drones. We generally don’t like being told what to do especially if it is against what we stand for. Good luck disarming the public when there are hundreds or thousands of LE and military defecting and turning our back on the government too
  
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- doncobb
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:20pm
  I could not agree more. This administration is an enemy of the people. I’m not even afraid to say it in public anymore. We the people need to actually do something about these jackasses in Washington DC. They are not friendly to us; they are enemies of the USA.
  
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- LIFENLIBERTY80
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:22pm
  TO: OLDGUY49
  
  Why, you ask, did the DHS order 1.8 billion rounds of amunition?…..That is simple………….to bog down the manufacturers, as several like Lake City are obligated to fill government orderes first…..and in turn they keep us from purchasing…..they will do anything to slow the growing wave of true Americans standing up for their rights.
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:23pm
  Cold dead hands!
  
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- doncobb
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:31pm
  All I know is that this administration has become clearly what appears to be an enemy of we, the people.
  
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- RabidPatriot
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:33pm
  What did you expect? Of course this progressive administration had no intentions on representing the people. It has an agenda and it will do everything to accomplish that agenda.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:34pm
  A LOT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENTS AND INNOCENT LEGAL OWNERS OF FIRE ARMS WILL DIE. AN EXECUTIVE ORDER CANNOT BE USED TO REPEAL AN AMENDMENT.
  
  The entire nation of lawful gun owners and supporters of The Rule of Law are waiting for the Rogue Government’s next move. Even Russia is on the side of the 2nd Amendment.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:40pm
  NO NATION CAN LAST FOR EVER
  
  There isn’t any reason for this nation to last long either. This will only be proof that a Federalist form of Government like ours is not a legitimate form to choose. Lets pray for a peaceful secession of our two cultures.
  
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- LadyGOP
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:02pm
  Please explain how this prevents mentally ill people from acquiring guns. Because I dont think it does.
  
  And Alex Jones is correct that doctors are giving out SUICIDE MASS MURDER PILLS.
  
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- UNINFORMED
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:10pm
  This admin is pure evil. We’re in deep doo-doo. The liar will dismantle the constitution and he does not care what anyone thinks. Might as well be prepared, because its coming to city near you. No charge.
  
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- Wolfgang the Gray
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:24pm
  Get what you can while you can get it, warms, ammo, accessories. Tyranny is coming down the pike and it has all our names on it. May God protect us if we have to fight for our liberties.
  
  “The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government – lest it come to dominate our lives and interests.” – Patrick Henry
  
  “The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.” – Thomas Jefferson
  
  “Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the people’s liberty teeth.” – George Washington
  
  The founders knew the importance of the 2nd Amendment because they just finished fighting a war against tyranny. The Obama regime is reinstating that tyranny a little more every day. Those that pay no attention to this will be the slaves and peasents under the government boot.
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:25pm
  Now wait a second. I just want to understand. The NRA is all about solutions to the problem of mass murder in the US. So here’s their solutions:
  
  - Put an armed guard in all schools. There were armed cops at Virginia State and at Columbine. There was a policemen right there when Jared Loughner killed six people and injured 12 others. That doesn’t work, sorry.
  
  - Focus our attention on violent video games and movies. I got news for you, other countries have those same games and watch the same movies, or worse.
  
  - Focus on preventing the mentally ill from getting guns. That’s a seriously make-believe proposal, given that the NRA is the first to oppose closing the “gun show loophole” which allows anyone, without a background check, to walk into a gun show and buy any gun at all from an unlicensed vendor, and, as sting videos have shown from a licensed vendor (see youtube).
  
  And face it, who would be the first to complain if there were are national database for potentially violent offenders created? Answer: you.
  
  Jared Loughner killed people until his 30 magazine ran dry, despite the presence of a policeman. Only then was he overpowered.
  
  Sorry to burst your paranoid bubble, but nobody is going to “take your guns away” despite the ecstatic thrill that thought must give you Rambos. But limiting magazine capacities to 10 rounds is a possibility (although you can keep whatever you have). Larger magazines have only one purpose: to slaughter people.
- sasquatch08
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:53pm
  @OLDGUY49
  
  Use of hollow-point ammunition in war is banned by the Geneva Convention.
  
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- Snoey227
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:55pm
  We need people to spread the word about the rally on our Capitols Jan. 19 2013 to protect our rights
  
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- ishka4me
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:56pm
  Friends , I grew up in Worcester Mass. It is about 40 miles from Boston, Prividence, Hartford and was and is an immigrant city of about 350k. In my day we were all lower middle class and had grandparents or parents from the old county; you name it, italy, ireland, poland, lituania, Canada, Germany, Russia, Greece, Yougoslavia, Cuba, Puerto Rico, Jamaica, etc…It was kind of like goodfellas meets Mayberry, no kidding , salt of the earth people but as tough as nails.
  Most of our grandparents came to Worcester around 1910-1930, not because they wanted to, but because they were escaping tyranny and had no way to defend themselves.
  One thing unique to Worcester is the squares; which are monuments set up at every cross roadall over the city to fallen soldiers of ww1, ww2, korea, viet nam, etc…At every street corner is a granite marker and plaque that has a name of the fallen that lived on that road and the name is the same as your current neighbors. If you ever drive through Worcester on i290 the exit ramps will say; Kelly Square, Brosnihan Square, etc… If you are not from Worcester it would be very confusing. Now these same people the squares were name for had parents or they themselves escaped genocides from their countries of origin.
  I own weapons, not to brandish, or to hunt or even to target shoot. I am an American Veteran and i own the weapons for defense against tyranny.Could it happen here? No, not with citizens owning weapons.it wont happen here
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:57pm
  SendTheMeteors – “Sorry to burst your paranoid bubble, but nobody is going to “take your guns away” despite the ecstatic thrill that thought must give you Rambos.”
  
  Can write but can’t read …
  (sorry, but I just LOVE a standing target)
  
  “Obama vowed last month “whatever power this office holds” to prevent future mass shootings.”
  
  “After meeting with gun safety groups Wednesday, Biden said the president could take “executive action” to crack down on guns.”
  
  “Earlier today, Vice President Joe Biden …. said that Obama “is going to act” — and potentially without Congress’ blessing.”
  
  “While claiming that no policy proposals would be ‘prejudged,’ this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners – honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans.”
  
  “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.”
  
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- sasquatch08
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:07pm
  @SENDTHEMETEORS:
  
  -Cops in schools. “He traded fire (that is, he drew fire) (EIO) with Harris for an extended period of time, during which Harris’s gun jammed… exchanged fire with the shooters a second time and helped begin the evacuation of students, all before the SWAT teams… arrived… They had dozens of IEDs, some of which detonated… And there were two of them… the deputy acted both bravely and prudently, and who knows how many lives he saved by engaging Harris.” So, actually, it does work. Also, it’s Virginia Polytechnic (Tech), not State.
  
  Video games: many other countries have far more strict control of who can have these games.
  
  The gun show loophole: I don’t particularly care if it is because I always buy from licensed vendors. However, note that the same people you worry about could buy a gun someone posted on craigslist in a private sale. Even if the seller does a background check with local police, they may still sell to a crazy person/criminal. Seung-Hui Cho (VT shooter) legally purchased guns from a vendor who performed a background check. The fact that he had been mentally adjudicated had not been entered into the FBI database by the State. Further, the FBI does NOT allow people without a FFL to contact their NICS system. Also, do you really think the criminal who sells stolen/smuggled weapons from the back of his car does background checks?
  
  Who would complain about the creation of a database? of “violent offenders”? Such a sy
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:11pm
  SendTheMeteors (a.k.a late hits)
  
  - Put an armed guard in all schools. There were armed cops at Virginia State and at Columbine. There was a policemen right there when Jared Loughner killed six people and injured 12 others. That doesn’t work, sorry.
  Armed guards won;t ensure 0 innocent deaths, but having them, will tend to reduce them.
  
  Having ambulance does not prevent deaths, but it reduces them.
  Having lifeboats drills does not prevent problems abandoning ship but it reduces them.
  
  Keep it up Meteors & we’ll just have to dig out the book on logic& put the name to the logical fallacy you have committed.
  
  If the cop near Loughner had shot at Loughner, he would have shot between 0 to 2 people before putting Loughner out of action. Sure the death toll would have been lower, but the cop would have been in hot water. Just like all the cops who get into hot water for being involved in a an accident during a hot pursuit.
  
  This is happening because we don;t put people like Loughner to death. He is somewhat crazy. But is he crazy enough to not know right from wrong? I don’t think so.
  
  Crazy is a jackal infected with rabies attacking a lion. I have seen a film of that. That is crazy & the lion knew it. It left the jackal alone. It knew that it was not normal behaviour and so did not kill the jackal. It could have very easily & did not. It knew something was up but could not quite put its’ paw on what that something was.
  
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- sasquatch08
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:13pm
  Who would complain about the creation of a database of “violent offenders”? Such a system already exists, it’s called NICS. I haven’t heard a lot of complaints.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:18pm
  SendTheMeteors
  That’s a seriously make-believe proposal, given that the NRA is the first to oppose closing the “gun show loophole”
  
  That is about the only thing that I might agree about.
  
  But Loughner nor Homes bought their guns from a gun show. Also if they had & the shows had to check, those to would have checked clean. Apparently psychiatrists or the system or relatives or friends do not want to commit people who require help.
  
  I bet the parents of these men wished the had gone to a therapist with their sons. If they had a time machine & could choose a gun law or going to therapy, I bet they choose therapy. James Holmes just about killed a person at his apartment with homemade explosives & might have killed 6 to a dozen more in the ensuing fire. What gun law is going to stop that?
  
  The gun law that says you must present an ID to purchase Acetone in small quantities & give a reason for buying it such as a home improvement project? That gun law
  
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- commies.in.the.wire
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:22pm
  REDFISH52, he will try to make us out to be the bad guys that don’t care if children die…and the liberal media machine do his dirty work for him.
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  Of course he doesn’t care if he kills children, he ok’d the Sandy Hook shooting, the Sikh temple, Aurora, Fast & Furious, and don’t discount more might be coming. Just as long their end justifies their means.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:28pm
  SendTheMeteors
  
  3 more points on guns shows With people being able to scan credit cards with their cellphones, it would be easier have Joe Schmoe run a background check. So tech has made that easier. So maybe it is not such a sticking point.
  
  But HandGun Control InCORPORATED has always said any law that gets passed is merely a 1st step for more laws & eventual confiscation. Why would the NRA or anyone even deal with HCI or any politician they back? You shake hand with them on a deal & it is only good until the came back next month or next year for more. That is a problem & you own it. These people are on tape having said this as is Diane Feinstein (who also wants to control the internet).
  
  Maybe the point of not having gun shows regulated is to keep you guessing. The left are the same people that want to tell you what light bulb to use, what showerhead, what toilet, what car, if you can have a car, if you can embark on a transoceanic voyage, if you can marry, how much you can weigh.
  
  I got quotes for all of them except the voyage one. That one might be hard to find. Let’s just say they are worried about how much energy a person might expend.
  
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- commies.in.the.wire
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:32pm
  The NRA mebership is surging (4 mill). Anyone having weapons they wish to hang onto should join. An 80 plus mill membership would send a huge message to the commies on the hill.
  
  Here’s how you can get in for only $25 and that is less than a case of good brew. I like beer and think politics is dead, but I just sent them some funds. All of the bold-speaking “cold dead fingers” types should do the same.
  
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- commies.in.the.wire
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:48pm
  SENDMETEORS: Larger magazines have only one purpose: to slaughter people.
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  larger mags have only one purpose: to FIGHT ENEMY FORCES & THAT INCLUDES THE POSSIBILITY OF A TYRANNIACAL GOVT!
  
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- AmericanFightingMan1
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:04am
  Biden is an F’ing clown. To hell with these marxists/fascists. Molon Labe.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:12am
  Like to have seen Joe Biden vs. Alex Jones
  Those two Masterdebaters would still
  be at it till the next erection
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:13am
  Sorry I misspeled election.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:17am
  Joe” I need a big gun,cause mine is only
  this long”
  
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- Leavon
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:54am
  Now is not the time to beat our chests, now is the time to establish lines of communication beyond the internet and phone service. now is the time to get our collective crap together because making a stand singlely will mean we will all be defeated singlely.
  
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- Black Horse
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:55am
  Leavon – you are spot on. There needs to be ways to get everyone organized and on the same page as Obummer has the internet kill switch. He can kill (jam) civilian 2-way commo as well (I use CB as well as GMRS/FRS). Most are waiting for actual action by law enforcement or the government because acting early can be construed as “crazy” and “fringe”. This organization needs to start now, or we’re in trouble. I’m NOT talking about killing anyone, just figuring out the best way to organize, stay in touch and be ready in the event the goons come a knocking.
  
  HOPEAMETEORHITSYOU – You are clueless and irrelevant. I’d comment on what you wrote, but I don’t read that crap any more, just skip over it.
  
  ROGUECOP – Are you an Oathkeeper? If not, you ought to be (because you are). You might ask those of your collegues that are similarly oriented to check it out as well. I usually tell people to check out the website and if they aren’t interested, well and good, go on about your business and have a nice day.
  
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- Black Horse
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:00am
  Leavon – you are spot on. There needs to be ways to get everyone organized and on the same page as Obummer has the internet kill switch. He can kill (jam) civilian 2-way commo as well (I use CB as well as GMRS/FRS). Most are waiting for actual action by law enforcement or the government because acting early can be construed as “crazy” and “fringe”. This organization needs to start now, or we’re in trouble. I’m NOT talking about killing anyone, just figuring out the best way to organize, keep in touch and be ready in the event the goons come a knocking.
  
  HOPEAMETEORHITSYOU – You are clueless and irrelevant. I’d comment on what you wrote, but I don’t read that crap any more, just skip over it.
  
  ROGUECOP – Are you an Oathkeeper? If not, you ought to be (because you are). You might ask those of your collegues that are similarly oriented to check it out as well. I usually tell people to check out the website and if they aren’t interested, well and good, go on about your business and have a nice day.
  
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- mersey
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:13am
  What’s a bigger threat in America…..a responsible, law abiding citizen with a gun in their hands or a drug taking, progressive student with a joy stick in their hands?
  
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- BlueStrat
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:47am
  Look guys, all this talk is great, but actions are called for.
  
  ORGANIZE!!
  
  The TEA Party has the networks of local chapters in place, now use that network to organize your neighborhood defense plans.
  
  >Distribute maps with pre-planned primary and secondary rally-points around your area where patriots can gather and initiate defensive actions.
  
  >Identify roads/highways into and around your area, and identify choke-points and also identify and mark-out tactical firing positions to command bridges, crossroads, main highways, etc, with attention paid to how local police/NG stations and bases may be isolated and siege laid, if they should decide to side with the regime instead of obeying their oaths. Identify SWAT motorpools and armories, and form a tactical plan to deal with them.
  
  >Identify and make plans to take out police/government radio transmitters and repeaters as well as local cellphone towers and repeaters. A policeman without a radio is just a guy with a gun and bad fashion-sense.
  
  >Identify firing positions to command police helipads and NG helicopter and A-10 flightlines. it’s very hard to fuel, load, and arm an aircraft or helo while the helipad and/or flightline is under fire.
  
  You’d BETTER do your homework here! You can bet that THEY have had both tactical and strategic plans laid out for decades, down to the individual building, for assaulting every city and region. If you just sit and wait for them to come and go out there with no plan, you’ll d
  
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- Singer-john
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 6:32am
  Dear friends,
  
  I wanted to let you know about a new petition I created on We the People,
  a new feature on WhiteHouse.gov, and ask for your support. Will you add your
  name to mine? If this petition gets 25,000 signatures by February 09, 2013,
  the White House will review it and respond!
  
  We the People allows anyone to create and sign petitions asking the Obama
  Administration to take action on a range of issues. If a petition gets
  enough support, the Obama Administration will issue an official response.
  
  You can view and sign the petition here:
  
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- Rickfromillinois
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:51am
  Having the NRA there was simply window dressing. I firmly believe that they had already decided what they wanted to do before that joke Biden held the first meeting. Mr. Obama, or maybe we should start referring to him as Emperor, has is executive order trashing the 2nd Amendment already written up. These idiotic left wing loonie gun grabbers don’t seem to realize that if you can ignore one part of the Bill of Rights you can ignore all of it.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 8:37am
  What I think is funny is the narcissistic attitude of this administration that they think that they are going to dictate to the American People what they think they “know” is best for us and that we are going to be sheep and follow the shepherd….too funny. Might I suggest before you pass a law that makes it a Federal crime to violate any of your insane new laws you might want to build more prisons first because you will need the space. Or you could let the real criminals out early as there will be alot of work for them to do with a citizenry that cannot defend itself. Call the police….oh please. You might as well help a bugler load his vehicle.
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 8:45am
  My guns are to assist in the eventual overthrow of an over-reaching tyrannical government.
  Its not for hunting – I have AR-15′s and 30 round clips and a lot of .223 ammo.
  So Joey, If you or Barry really want to mess with the 2nd amendment – be advised that our fore fathers had a plan in that eventuality and You will not like it!
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:33pm
  Send the Meatballs
  Put an armed guard in all schools. There were armed cops at Virginia State and at Columbine. There was a policemen right there when Jared Loughner killed six people and injured 12 others. That doesn’t work, sorry.
  
  Jared Loughner killed people until his 30 magazine ran dry, despite the presence of a policeman. Only then was he overpowered.
  ***
  The Marine Barracks in Lebanon was bombed despite the fact that guards were posted. Thus using meteor/meatball logic we must conclude that posting gate guards is useless.
  
  When police opened fired on & killed Jeffrey Johnson at the Empire State Building after he killed a former coworker in NYC, they wounded 9 people. That is the reason why the cop by Loughner did not open fire, when he could have. If he had fired fewer people would have got hurt but then a leftist like yourself would be screaming at the mayor & police chief.
  
  You are the same type of person that criticizes police until they have ceased hot pursuits in many jurisdictions. So why would a police open fire or engage in hot pursuit of a felon? They open themselves up to getting sued.
  
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- Techcon
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 12:29am
  @meteors…yawn,
  
  http://abcnews.go.com/US/woman-dies-pool-boy-reports-drowning-lifeguards-fall/t/story?id=13984017
  
  Using your STUPID, anti-logic would mean we shouldn’t have ANY lifeguards at all, right? If it fails just ONCE, then why bother anymore?
  
  Was that your brainless point about NOT having cops in schools?
  
  Pathetic.
  
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Witness1974
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:39pm
How could any meeting with Biden “go well”? You make your statement. He pretends to listen. He lectures you, makes a few inappropriate remards. You pretend to listen. Meeting over.

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- Obama Snake Oil Co
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:49pm
  And grabs some ladies azz…..
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:50pm
  I am sure he began his remarks with: This is a big fing deal.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:55pm
  I wonder if Biden frisked Wayne before or after the meeting.
  
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- DEFCON4
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:56pm
  @ Witness, That, about ‘sums’ it up….
  The Wasington ‘two-step’, right out the door.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:03pm
  “We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment”
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  Did they REALLY think it was about keeping children safe? Boy, are they naive? The marxists jumped on this shooting like hyenas on a carcass. They want ANY excuse to erase the 2nd Amendment.
  
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- 700P
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:11pm
  He’s the administration’s “Trial Buffoon” just like the Executive Order idea he floated yesterday. It would be a perfect plan as it takes the heat off of Congress to avoid an unpleasant 1994 repeat in 2016. They might as well do it now that they have their “emergency”
  
  Red states need to make it clear they will not cooperate. Congress will still have to address the issue as the House can force a vote and then the politicians can make it clear which side they’re on.
  
  If you look at what happened with the start of the Tea Party and healthcare, part of the momentum waned because a lot of dolts don’t understand the immediate and long term impacts (everything seems theoretical) but the danger for the administration is this is a more concrete issue and they’re betting on the pensive soccer moms to rally on their behalf based on the emotional aspects of the Newtown tragedy (i.e. what if it were my children).
  
  The media will put on a full court press to humiliate and shame gun owners to convince the dolts to further weaken the constitution.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:29pm
  I would be the media’s worst nightmare, an unashamed gun owner who can articulate a point and who knows history. Mulon Labe.
  
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- wzanesdad
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:29pm
  better buy this week. Guns and LOTS of ammo….any caliber…especially ammo….people can always buy guns from the mexican cartels if they need to.
  
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Fecal_Matters
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:38pm
Bet he didn’t ask Lapierre to spread his legs.

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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:59pm
  I’d like to know what happens when they ask the first LEOs to violate the Constitution…and the LEOs tell them to go poop in their hats.
  
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- ozchambers
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:36pm
  I hope you’re right, but based on what happened in New Orleans following Katrina, I have my doubts about how many will defend the Constitution and the rights of their fellow citizens. After all, they get to keep their “assault” weapons.
  
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- Lt_Scrounge
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:46pm
  They won’t have the police do it initially. They will have their goon squad of DHS civilian defense corps thugs do it for them. Nappy just announced that the first class of thugs have graduated from the training program. These thugs are being recruited from street gangs and juvenile delinquents. Some of them wouldn’t even be allowed to purchase a firearm and they’re giving them advanced tactical training and fully automatic weapons. Mao said that political power comes from the barrel of a gun and Stalin said that who votes doesn’t count, who counts the votes does. Obamao learned both of those lessons well. They are monitoring all of your emails, and any chat room you may be in, even ones that you think are on secure sites. They will harass and threaten you if they think you’re passing along information to other patriots that they don’t want them to know, EVEN IF IT IS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE THAT THE GOVERNMENT GIVES OUT FOR THE ASKING UNDER FOIA REQUESTS. Anyone want the phone number for the Dallas FBI Office? I got it from one of the agents that interrogated me for over 90 minutes over some information that I gave some other patriots. They admitted that the information was free government information but still threatened me if I gave it out again.
  
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salvawhoray
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:38pm
The Gov. can’t round up 15 million illegal aliens, so what makes them think they can find a take away 300 million guns?

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- DexterC1979
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:48pm
  Because they will actually TRY to take away the guns. Unlike their failed “attempts” of catching illegals.
  
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- Fecal_Matters
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:50pm
  They couldn’t find their A$$ with a road map.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:52pm
  The difference is desire.
  
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- guntotinsquaw
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:57pm
  They won’t, instead he will control the ammo. A background to buy a bullet, a shell, black powder. If you’re buying ammo for a gun not registered to you, well, you understand.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:34pm
  @SALVAWHORAY
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:38pm
  The Gov. can’t round up 15 million illegal aliens, so what makes them think they can find a take away 300 million guns?
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  Thats easy.
  The 15 million illegal aliens vote FOR THEM.
  The 300 million guns vote AGAINST THEM [least case scenario]
  The 300 million guns are FIRING AT THEM [best case scenario]
  
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- Onesimus
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:33am
  They have not tried on the illegals. For the guns, probably do an “in loco parentis” type stunt like the child protection agencies do. IRS calls you in for an audit, and while you’re out they serve a probable cause warrent on your empty house. The key for them is that the folks they are going after are by nature law abiding, it will take us a bit to adjust to the shifting reality. They will also change thier tactics as we adapt. Being on defense is problematic like that. When, not if, these things start to happen, just like they want to bring the fight to our homes, we will have to do the same if we intend to keep our nation. Here is the part that will not appeal to most law abiding citizens. Every person in a position of public service will have to understand that if they support this unconstitutional action, every person they hold dear will be forfit. They betrayed the public trust, they need to understand they will lose everything Achan, the son of Carmi, the son of Zabdi, the son of Zerah, of the tribe of Judah lost when his sin was revealed after Jericho.
  
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Max Power 1
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:36pm
I will not comply.

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- ihveit
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:50pm
  max there are probably thousands just like you.
  
  what this idiot biden and his communist boss is trying to do wont work..
  
  however if they think they can just pass laws and people will bow down and kiss their ass are badly mistaken
  
  what is going to happen if these idiots try to force the people to comply will have many, many people on both sides killed.. there will be blood in the streets because people are getting tired of this bull crap… you cannot keep a criminal from having guns no matter how many laws you pass..
  
  the problem is our courts and not the laws we now have .. the liberals slap criminals on the wrist.. or let them come here illegally to sell their drugs and obummer could care less.. he is after destroying this country… and so far he has done a fair job of it..
  
  no more… the free people will stay free
  
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- Apo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:59pm
  Me either.. I will put up a sign in my yard stating that I am a compulsory criminal and if they would like to – they can come in and find out how alive and well the second amendment is in my household.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:09pm
  How exactly 1) can they create new law with executive orders
  
  2) can they prevent people from selling firearms privately? Prove it? Universal registration of firearms? Good frick’n luck.
  
  No, I will not register my weapons.
  
  Come get them. I dare you.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:48pm
  Most people here should read this article. I believe wholeheartedly in preparedness and
  “knowing the enemy”. Consider all the options and all the angles. Know what they’re
  going to do BEFORE they do it.
  
  They’re not going to send out squads of armed soldiers door to door. That would be sheer madness.
  No, they’ll do it the cowardly government way — they’ll use the bureaucracy and paper you into
  submission.
  
  How Will They Confiscate Your Guns?
  http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsarchives/XcNewsPlus.asp?cmd=view&articleid=327
  
  “For decades I have heard gun owners claim that the government would never be able to confiscate our firearms because the government would lose too many men. The implication being, of course, that gun owners would actively resist confiscation, even to the point of shooting back. But I believe this thinking is outdated and doesn’t align very well with reality. But before you tell me how big your honor guard in Hell will be when that day comes, let’s think about how the government could really do it. “
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:05pm
  THe NEW AGE of warfare is technology and they’re going to use information.
  Any resistance movement is going to want an “anonymous” type unit that can
  hotwire the databases and turn them into scrambled eggs.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:33pm
  Bodybag-
  the problem with that essay is that there are too many gun owners for them to follow that lengthy a process. All you have to do is observe how they have conducted the war on drugs. Modeled after how they worked the prohibition fiasco. They will commit a series of “waco” type events to put the fear of the government in people to hand over their stuff. But, I see the people (hopefully) reacting in a different manner this go around. I see the the patriots taking action once the buzzer goes off. Instead of waiting for the swat raids, the fighting will be brought to the oppressors.
  
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- ravenalexs
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:34pm
  ..ditto!
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:36pm
Why is anyone surprised by the fact Bidens task-force basically laid down the message that the admin is coming for their guns and they either play-along or they will be crushed flat. There is no compromise with radicals such as Biden and Obama.

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- 101stIraqVet
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:51pm
  Get ready to be labeled a terrorist. Obama knew what he was doing when he passed NDAA. This has been planned all along.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:04pm
  and bought 1.5 hollow points…
  
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- OlefromMN
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:59pm
  I wasn’t shocked in the least. The NRA got sucked into the game and now will be used by the Administration.
  
  Never ever ever trust a “progressive”. They are like parasites that use any piece of a “host” they can until it is all devoured. Then they move onto the next.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:31pm
  I told those around me, one week after 9/11, that we would all be labeled “terrosists”.
  
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- Phreqguru
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:41pm
  And now you know what all of the FEMA camps are for…but take your own pillow.
  
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- Black Horse
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:14am
  Phreqguru
  
  Just a guess, not saying this about anyone in particular, especailly on the site here, but wouldn’t it be easier on the conscience to fight back against FemaBots as opposed to LEO or military? They bleed as well, you know, and tactical training or not, how many of them are there? More than there are gun owners in the US? Likely not.
  
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USAREALIST
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:35pm
It is coming folks

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- Ash_Kiker
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:47pm
  they will take our guns before they drive the US into the ground so we wont be able to stop them!
  
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- ravenalexs
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:43pm
  The only way a tyrant can overthrow its people is to disarm them! Look at what happened in Russia during the Czars and what Lenin did….he disarmed the people. The Russians were the most armed people in the world during the Czars and Lenin disarmed the people in order overthrow the people…starved them….killed them…..LOOK AT HISTORY!
  
  What does Jesus say, there is nothing new under the sun…
  
  Yes, they are coming for the guns….progressively, over a short period of time. Like the lobster and the boiling pot. Drop a lobster in a pot of boiling water, and if it can, it will jump out. Drop a lobster in a pot of lukewarm water and ever soo slightly turn up the heat and before the lobster knows it, he’s cooked and so are we!
  
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mrunner
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:34pm
That picture…is Biden describing the… um… length of the barrel of his pistol he is carrying?

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- DontTreadOnTEA
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:49pm
  I think he’s exaggerating too.
  
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woodyee
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:31pm
Speaking of gun rights, can anyone confirm the validity of this post, which appears on the “NRA membership adds 100,000 thread”?

Captbill
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 3:45pm

Did GB just say this on his radio show (it’s going viral on the net)

“Glenn Beck just answered a callers question regarding confiscation. The answer? Hand your guns over and tell them to arrest you. They do not have the facilites to hold 50 million gun owners. If you go the martin luther king route you win. If you go the waco route you lose. ”

Does he not know history of countries where arms were confiscated?????

AND I AM A SUBSCRIBER. BUT NOT FOR LONG!

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- normbal
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:38pm
  FEMA camps. They’re real. Sure, Glen, give ‘em YOUR guns and get on the train. Not me.
  
  “Better to die on your feet than on your knees.” Mordecai Anielewicz
  
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- HollyRye
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:40pm
  Glenn did NOT say to hand over your guns. He said to refuse to send over your guns and tell them to arrest you for not doing so. If millions of gun owners that, what will they do? Arrest millions?
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:40pm
  The NRA membership numbers are not independently verified. There are memberships and there are ‘memberships.’ The Wikipedia says 4.3 Million. Plus 100,000 is 4.4 M.
- woodyee
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:40pm
  If this is true, then Glenn Beck just screwed up big time! The government is not going to arrest you for compliance, nor just because you ask them to, thus, if you voluntarily surrender, you’ve helped Gaybama accomplish his mission – period.
  
  Glenn thinks that the government doesn’t have the places to hold 50,000,000 prisoners, and he’s right. But they won’t need such pens if you comply, and if you comply, might as well learn a new language – call it the Beck-bleet – Every time an edict drools from Capitol Hill, you respond with Bhahahahaa…..bhaahahaha….
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:58pm
  They can’t confiscate what they can’t find because you sold your guns a month ago. Invite them in for ice tea and cookies when they come, and answer what guns?
  
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- justangry
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:03pm
  Beck’s been of his rocker for a while now. Stalin and Hitler didn’t have prison space either… They worked around that little inconvenience with deadly results. He’s here to pacify that’s it. The Marxist is a sociopath mass murderer with a secret kill list and you don’t have the right to due process.
  
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- jeff1158
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:12pm
  I agree with you Woodyee. I posted on another article. If they arrest us, take our guns, then let us go, we are screwed. I will not give up my guns. The first time they come to my door I will ask them to leave and not come back. The second time I will ask them if this is worth dying over for THEM. It will come down to who is willing to die. I will not live as a slave. I am tired of giving effort, money and power to those who do not deserve it. I thought Glenn said, “I will not comply!”. Easy to say, harder to do.
  
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- justangry
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:13pm
  @booger71, Remember in the gun grab of the Armenians, the Armenians who didn’t have weapons purchased them to have when the soldiers came to collect so they wouldn’t be beaten mercilessly. The Commander in Chief is a Marxist, mass murdering, sociopath with a secret kill list.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:39pm
  justangry
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:13pm
  
  @booger71, Remember in the gun grab of the Armenians, the Armenians who didn’t have weapons purchased them to have when the soldiers came to collect so they wouldn’t be beaten mercilessly. The Commander in Chief is a Marxist, mass murdering, sociopath with a secret kill list.
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  Before that day happens, I will already be in the large vast forests, living off the land. Already planned.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:39pm
  Hollyrye-
  what do you think will happen to your guns when they arrest you? letting them arrest you is the same thing as handing them over. you will never see your guns again. Beck is stupid if he thinks that will work, they have FEMA camps stocked and ready to go. Plenty of space to put the dissenters. Besides, look how MLK ended up…Dead is dead.
  
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- subic
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:59pm
  Glenn selling out?
  
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:31pm
Impeach the lot.

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- Jinglebob
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:44pm
  We can’t impeach them, they will have to be pulled out of their offices by force and put against the wall for treason.
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:01pm
  With at least 47% of the voters on the mooch, voting is no longer a viable option
  
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00100111
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:31pm
It’s not like we didn’t see this coming. The O admin is not interested in real solutions, only agenda items. A pity. He’s on course to having his legacy be that of inciting insurrection.

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101stIraqVet
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:30pm
The NRA shouldn’t have wasted their time. It’s obvious this is a witch hunt.

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- DougHuffman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:34pm
  Good cop/bad cop commerce. The NRA Emperor has no clothes.
  
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- goodone121
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:09pm
  “NRA Emperor,” @Doughoffman? I believe you’re a PLANT.
  
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Dkoonz
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:30pm
Good to hear that the NRA is standing there ground and not trying to cut a deal with the Commie bastards. I WILL NOT COMPLY to any new laws that try to take away or alter my 2nd amendment rights.

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DougHuffman
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:29pm
But, butt bu the NRA has 100,000 new members, how can the fed gov not kneel before the largest and most vocal opponent of the gun grabbers. The NRA does not speak for me.

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- 00100111
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:31pm
  So, you’re turning in your firearms, yes?
  
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- Ash_Kiker
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:54pm
  Take another big swig of the Kool-Aid DOUGHUFFMAN, join the liberal ranks
  
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- Dustoff
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:59pm
  Enjoy speaking for yourself. Me I’m going NRA.
  
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- SLARTIBARTFAST
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:24pm
  I re-upped just today. The wife’s turn tomorrow!
  
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lilmacs
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:29pm
Every time a tragedy like Sandy Hook happens the left wants to take the guns away from people who had nothing to do with it,

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ThurstonHowellIV
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:28pm
I don’t understand why the NRA would waste their time meeting with Joe. They should not participate in this kind of political theater of the absurd.

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:37pm
  So that they can honestly say that they participated in the process and that the process wasn’t interested in individual rights. If they hadn’t went, then gun owners would have been all over their @ss like honey on a bear’s maw. Now we have a clear conscious and if the “EO” illegally comes down saying “no more guns for you” we can defy it in good conscious, since we were denied a voice in the legal wrangling.
  
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- buzzkill59
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:46pm
  They had no choice!If they don’t meet with Doh! Biden then the MSM crucifies them for being unwilling to discuss the problem and find solutions!By meeting with uncle Doh!,they still get crucified,but they get to report what was actually talked about as opposed to what the liberal(fascist) talking points say!
  
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woodyee
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:27pm
It’s what Communists do – they’ll put you in a no-win situation for show, having pre-planned long ago how to implement their goals while making it look like they had no other choice.

NRA no show – “They never came to the table, though we reached out to them.”
NRA shows up – “We’ll make proposals which are untenable to their principals, and then tell the people they were being unreasonable.”

Remember their coin phrases – it used to be “for the children”, and today the word is “sensible”.

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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:27pm
Not one word from Mr. Biden about the NRA financing free training for teachers? Shame on you Mr. Biden, you don’t care what the People say, you want to rubber stamp what Mr. Obama wants?

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ThurstonHowellIV
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:26pm
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myrwo6
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:25pm
There is no way that the NRA expected to have a meaningful conversation with Biden and Obama’s idiot task force on gun issues. REALLY?

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- moreteaplease
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:56pm
  Biden is too dimwitted ( or drunk ) to engage in a meaningful conversation about ANYTHING.
  
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:25pm
The fact that we have not heard the viewpoints of Mr. Biden says everything, he will simply rubber stamp what ever President Obama wants, instead of what the People want?

Shame on you Mr. Biden!

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- BlasberryStrat
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:46pm
  Biden (in my opinion) doesn’t even realize he’s being used as the “fall guy” for Oby. No matter what happens in the end, one side or the other is going to go bat crazy against the decision along with the person who headed up the commitee. Oby’s just going to go through his whole “I have no knowlege” routine while Biden get’s lambbasted alive. (I kinda actually feel sorry for Biden having to take this on, and doesn’t realize what he’s in for.)
  
  But face it. You are exactly correct that Biden will go with what ever Oby wants. And I feel we will see him turn on Oby when it comes close to the elections, because he has indicated running for President. I would hope if he feels he is Presidential material, that he is smart enough to understand that as heading up this gun control deal, he has signed his name to political suicide. No way can he come out of this without any other means but to retire after this term.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:17pm
  Shame on him? These “people” have no shame.
  
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justangry
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:25pm
I wonder what does the number one *conservative* for Fox News have to say about the debate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNrGfE3a7A0&feature=youtu.be

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- Captbill
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 5:02pm
  I am so finished with O’reilly.
  
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- henryKnox
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:47pm
  I’ve watched many of the talking heads discuss the current debate and found that most have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. They can’t define an assault weapon and they don’t understand that the laws and bans have done nothing to discourage criminals from doing their nasty deeds. Columbine happened while we had such an assault weapons ban. A rifle is a rifle and most simply are freaked out by the appearance. I would like to see some adults added to the conversation.
  
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- o0o
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:40pm
  bill is not a conservative
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:23pm
@Cavallo

Dude, looks to me like you may want to renew your membership. :)

Good on the NRA for not playing along with this horse and pony show.

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- woodyee
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:28pm
  Cavallo is not a member? Say it ain’t so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:48pm
  Let it lapse after they came out for the Obamacare bill. I will likely renew now.
  
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gyro
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:23pm
did the NRA send any female members for Joe Biden to grope ?
Wait thats not a nice thing to say the NRA is better than that

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- dosdelgados
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:20pm
  I’m a female NRA member. I’d rather hug a beehive than be in the same room as Ol’ Feel-’em-up Joe.
  
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coyote1hell
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 4:23pm
This ignorant BAS-tard…could pour-piss…out of a boot with direcions on the bottom of the heel….

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