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‘Shoot Him Again! Shoot Him!’: Husband Coaches Wife to Shoot Home Invader in Chilling 911 Audio

Jan. 10, 2013 5:55pm Jason Howerton

Credit: AP

Police have released audio from a 911 call made during a home invasion in Georgia, in which a concerned husband tells his wife to shoot a lawless intruder. The mom was home alone with her twin 9-year-old children when the man broke into their home with a crowbar.

The mother, later identified as Melinda Herman, shot the man five times with a .38 caliber revolver after he cornered them in an attic crawlspace, successfully protecting herself and her two children, TheBlaze previously reported.

Herman’s husband, Donnie, was in Atlanta and remained on the phone with his wife and a 911 operator on separate line throughout the incident. The audio recording of the call was obtained by WXIA and the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

NBC News provides a partial transcript of the call:

“Do you hear him? Is he in the house? He’s in the house,” Donnie Herman says.

“Melinda, if he opens that door, you shoot him, you understand.”

“She has a weapon?” asks the dispatcher. “What type of weapon?”

“She has a .38,” Donnie Herman said.

The 911 operator tells him that officers were on the way.

“She shot him. She’s shooting him, she’s shooting him.”

“OK,” the dispatcher responds.

“Shoot him again! Shoot him!” Donnie Herman yells, later telling the dispatcher “She shot him, a lot.”

Donnie Herman also talks about how he just took his wife to the gun range. “Just remember everything that I showed you,” he tells his wife.

Listen to excerpts of the audio below (first shot fired at around 2:00):

When the gun shots stopped, the terrified father waited seven minutes, which must have felt like an eternity, before he found out his family was OK, WXIA reported.

Donnie Herman weighs in on his wife’s actions. (Photo: WSB-TV)

Melinda Herman later told police that she began shooting when the robber, identified as Paul Slater, opened the attic crawl space. And she didn’t stop shooting until she was out of bullets, despite the man’s pleas.

“This lady decided that she wasn’t going to be a victim, and I think everyone else looks at this and hopes they have the courage to do what she done,” Sheriff Joe Chapman told the Associated Press on Wednesday.

“Slater– who was taken to the hospital with punctured lungs, a punctured liver, and a punctured stomach– has reportedly been arrested six times since 2008,” TheBlaze reported.

Melinda Herman and her children, though shaken, were not injured in the incident.

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Polarized America
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:31pm
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When seconds count the police are there in an hour & a half or so

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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:35pm
  She had the wherewithal to make a conference call?
  
  That’s one cool-under-pressure lady…… : )
  
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- casseopea42
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:47pm
  I hate to say this but it is unfortunate that he lived. Now he can sue them.
  
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- goldmind
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:47pm
  The perfect argument for the legal possession of weapons, and the perfect scenario to lay at the feet of those lofty creatures (who are protected by the best weapons money can buy) in DC, Liberal Media and Hollyweird. Mr. Beck, I see a huge march on DC, against weapons bans and Constitutional Abuse in the near future. I urge you(and member of the NRA), to use your resources to encourage a million+ citizens to march on the Capitol before these abuses reach a critical mass of no-return.
  
  Well done, Melinda & Donnie! You have taught your children a crucial lesson about survival.
  
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- DarkJello
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:49pm
  Police are fast, but no realistic way to be fast enough for so many altercations.
  
  Thank the founders and God that we have the right to defend ourselves!
  
  This woman is a patriot. Criminal might wish he was dead now.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:52pm
  Monk – “That’s one cool-under-pressure lady…… : )”
  
  Good thing that she wasn’t older (like my wife) going thru PMS.
  She would have said… “Shoot him again? Shoot him? If you would get me a REAL handgun with a REAL clip this would be no problem for me!”
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:59pm
  I’m going out on a limb, but I think it will be some time before Mr. Slater breaks into another house.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:13pm
  Just watched this and agree with this guy.
  This is just what ALL of us keep saying…
  Let’s Show Criminals Exactly Where to Go to Steal a Gun
  http://conservativevideos.com/2013/01/lets-show-criminals-exactly-where-to-go-to-steal-a-gun/
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:18pm
  She shot him 5 time’s and he got up and drove himself to the hospital. She need’s a bigger gun…
  
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- VoteRightDammit
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:22pm
  Police: may not protect & serve all that well, but they sure are great at typing.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:28pm
  MONK
  Some women just multi-task real well.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:05pm
  THIS IS WONDERFUL NEWS
  
  This news should be on ever radio and TV station. If that white women did not have the gun, she and her babies could be dead. If only every mother in America had a gun. If a teacher in Sandy Hook had a gun all those little kids would have been alive for Christmas.
  
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- banjarmon
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:31pm
  This is Good practice of gun control!!
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:47pm
  Thanks for the link DadRocked…..
  
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- flyoverbob
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 8:50pm
  A 45 auto with some hallow points he wouldn’t be costing the taxpayers a big hospital bill.And also it wont kick like the revolver
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 9:54pm
  And of course, Obama would rather these two be dead and mutilated. Wouldn’t want to offend the criminal with that evil gun and all.
  
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- DeOppressoLiber
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:04pm
  If your are not do not know this case please research it.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
  
  How will the progressives field this one?
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:16pm
  @MONK
  She wasn’t on the line with the police. Her neighbors were. In fact, after she shot the intruder several times at her husband’s prompting (hats off to you, sir, for the way you handled the situation), he had no clue if she was OK or what had happened to his kids. It looks like she was very traumatized. It’s sad what this woman and her children had to go through, while an officer typed, and the police were “on their way.”
  
  Too bad that vermin is not dead, but Melissa should be very proud of herself. She did the right thing by calling her husband instead of the police. He knows the house and he knows her. Donnie is one smart, collected guy. He contacted 911 so it was all on record, and he did what a man is supposed to do, i.e., protect his family.
  
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- mrspeedwagon
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:15pm
  Aaahhhaaa there IS a God. God bless the 2nd ammendment. Glad the guy didn’t die. He will live many years in prison with his complications from punctured lungs, liver, and intestons. May the piece of crap live many years in pain.
  
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- Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:15pm
  “‘Shoot Him Again! Shoot Him!’: Husband Coaches Wife to Shoot Home Invader in Chilling 911 Audio”
  
  GUNS SAVE AMERICANS … from wild beasts, from crooks, from tyranny.
  LIBERALS(commies) want to see children killed.
  
  Study that for tomorrow’s test. Class dismissed.
  
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- commies.in.the.wire
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:03am
  ALAN DERSHOWITZ will get in line to defend him and sue these landowners. Too bad she didn’t shoot him dead.
  
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- commies.in.the.wire
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:09am
  ALAN DERSHOWITCZ will line up to defend this guy and sue these landowners. She should have made sure he was dead.
  
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- Advection
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:21am
  Once the police have been notified and are on the way, what’s the point of letting the PC government record what’s going on?
  
  If someone breaks into your home with the intent of killing your family, and you successfully defend them, the government will consider everything you say when deciding whether to charge you with murder. Did you use too much force? The loser’s widow or parents, or the politically correct DA might think so when the police publish their tape.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:23am
  @ADVECTION
  Once the police have been notified and are on the way, what’s the point of letting the PC government record what’s going on?
  —
  Hmm! You may be right there. I said what I said, because the officer didn’t seem to like the fact that Melissa called her husband instead of calling the police, and that could have been held against her.
  
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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 8:49am
  She has true grit.
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:04am
  EVERY law abiding citizen should be armed!! My daddy said when I was a young lad, “son, you’ll be a lot more civil if you think the guy you are talking to might have a .45 under his coat’.
  
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- landowner
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:16am
  She ran out of bullets…maybe if there was something like…I don’t know mags with higher capacity…Just sayin.
  
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- jakartaman
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:32am
  The police job is not to protect you or prevent crime – their job is to investigate crimes.
  You want to protect yourself – best home defense is a 12 gauge pump shotgun with 8 pellet. loads. Just the sound of the cocking usually get some attention.
  
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- rogerisi
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:50am
  CASS… unfortunately you are 100% correct. He will sue with the ACLU representing with no fee and he will walk away with a few million at least. The humane thing would have been to raise the gun slightly higher on the last 2 shots pointed at the bridge of the nose between the eyes.
  
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- grampdad
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 11:15am
  Try to imagine; a population trained and armed like this woman…would fewer people attempt rape or robbery?
  
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- desertspeaks
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:34pm
  ALL courts inclusive of the supreme court have persistently ruled that “fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents “POLICE” are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen.”
  The court held that the San Jose police were not liable for ignoring Mrs. Brunell’s pleas for help. Hartzler v. City of San Jose, 46 Cal. App. 3d 6 1st Dist. 1975
  Riss v. New York, 240 N.E.2d 860 N.Y. 1968
  Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981
  DeShaney v. Winnebago County Department of Social Services 109 S.Ct. 998, 1989
  Balistreri v. Pacifica Police Department. 901 F.2d 696 9th Cir. 1990
  Moreover, Zinermon v. Burch 110 S.Ct. 975, 984 1990
  all the aforementioned cases resulted in the death
  
  Constitutional duties of care and protection only exist as to certain individuals, such as incarcerated prisoners, involuntarily committed mental patients and others restrained against their will and therefore unable to protect themselves.
  Neither a public entity or a public employee [may be sued] for failure to provide adequate police protection or service, failure to prevent the commission of crimes and failure to apprehend criminals.
  In other words this means the only people the police are duty-bound to protect are criminals in custody, and other persons in custody for such things as mental disorders. YOU have no recourse if the police fail to respond or fail to protect you from injury
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:46pm
  I don’t feel right taking a life. I’d rather carry blanks with me, to simulate the stopping power and raw fury of an actual bullet. That alone is enough to, “keep the plunderer in awe” as Patrick Henry once said.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 2:15am
  If you read carefully all the facts one thing is clear. This was not a burglary. A black man was intent on raping the woman as he ignored things in the house and went straight after her. Through several doors and obstacles, not looking at any property in the home. Not wanting to leave any witnesses he would have killed her and the children after he had his way with them. I believe this civilian woman with a gun stopped far more than is being told here.
  
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- Dr Vel
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 2:22am
  The_Cabrito_Goat “I don’t feel right taking a life. I’d rather carry blanks with me, to simulate the stopping power and raw fury of an actual bullet. That alone is enough to, “keep the plunderer in awe” as Patrick Henry once said.”
  
  Mr Henry was not as ignorant as you. I have no respect for such willful ignorance. Your idea might have worked out if only the criminal had been armed with a rubber crowbar instead of an iron one. Fool.
  
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- Al Anderson
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:27pm
  casseopea42,
  
  In Georgia, a thug (or his family, if you have put him/her six feet under) CAN NOT sue someone if they were shot while committing a crime. It is state law.
  
  This is, in large part, due to georgiacarry.org (the best 2nd amendment rights organization for Georgia citizens).
  
  I recommend that everyone research and join organizations that work tirelessly for our God given rights to self defense with firearms. And if someone lives in Georgia, PLEASE spend $15 and join Georgia Carry.
  
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TiffanyRuth
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:28pm
He was obviously not just looking at robbing her home; otherwise why would he go into the attic crawl space looking for them he was going to kill or rape or both. Good job Melinda and Donnie! God only knows what would have happened if she wasn’t armed and only waited for police (esp in Atlanta). If anyone breaks into my home, it won’t be 911 I will be calling, it will be the coroner. More practice at the range to guarantee you take them out with 1-2 shots and save your ammo for the next SOB that comes in your home.

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 9:40am
  People, whatever you do in such a situation, DO NOT stay on the phone with the 911 operator. They only want you to stay on the line so they can record the event audio and use it later against you in a court of law. There is nothing that they can do for you by you talking to them. They are not your friend. You need both hands and feet to defend yourselves. They want the evidence to ascertain if you did anything “wrong” during the attack. And, God forbid you call your attacker a name or use a racial slur against them. They will rake you through the coals. Look at what they did to Zimmerman, putting words in his mouth that he didn’t even say. Hang up the phone. Do not talk to them.
  
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- supermansdad
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:26pm
  For once, I’m going to partially agree with Mil-dot.
  Give name, location, description of suspect then if possible hang up or at least shut up.
  
  Don’t forget though that most of those audios are used to prosecute the offender not the defender. Usually if used against the defender it’s because they continued to plug away at the suspect after they were defensless and laying on the ground after surrendering and/or dying.
  
  Remember the OKC phamacist as a good example. He offed the unarmed 16yo after chasing the armed attacker outside, came back, retrieved a second weapon then shot the unarmed and dying kid another time. He would not be in prison now had he simply let him die from the first shots.
  
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- supermansdad
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:32pm
  Oh, and if you do stay on the line the only words you should tell the bad guy is STOP as your shooting them. Heck, even if it’s not in your house but on the street always yell stop hurting me!
  
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bannedfromCNN
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:28pm
Let’s see… 5 out of 6 with one touchdown would give her a quarterback rating of over 100 – WELL DONE!!!

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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:52pm
  LOL. I hope she doesn’t suffer guilt.
  
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- IWISHIWASINTEXAS
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:56pm
  That warrants a 1st round draft pick in my book!
  
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- patriotteapress
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:49pm
  It was a six shot revolver are we sure she had six bullets loaded. A lot of people leave the one in line with the barrel empty as a precaution against accidental discharge. She very well could have hit the perp every time she fired.
  
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geminimoon
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:25pm
As a gun owner myself, it’s heartwarming to hear such stories of would be victims! So glad this man had taken his wife to a range and taught her to properly use that pistol.

Without OUR 2nd Amendment this woman and her children would merely be statistics today.

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Shoot2Stop
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:24pm
Good husband! Good wife and mother.

Never get between a momma bear and her cubs.

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lala76
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:24pm
I hope this never happens to me but at least my 40 should make sure he doesn’t get back up.

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- George Patton
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:43pm
  Ok to everyone who thinks their 40 cal or 45 cal handgun will dispatch enemies with devastating efficiency, please do not think that…that is folly. Handguns, any caliber, are poor performers. It is not like the movies where one or two shots and the threat is stopped. Rifles are exponentially more damaging and you can shoot a deer, double lung, with a 308 and it will still run 50 yards or so. Do you really think a man, weighing more than a deer will be dropped instantly with a handgun? My point is, do not have a false sense of security in your handgun.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:21pm
It’s too bad the neanderthal lived and I’m sure he’ll be patched up and ready for more,next time he needs to feel the power of a .45 or 44 magnum,the story would have a much happier ending.

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- missdagnytaggart
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:52pm
  If only she had better aim.
  
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- neverending
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:01pm
  Not to mention the fact that he will get pampered and protected and on and on the sickening story goes but at least she and her beloved children are safe.
  
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kickagrandma
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:19pm
I would imagine any 911 call is “chilling” when lives are at stake. Good for the husband wife team! Thank GOD the person on 911 was calm and not a liberal. Can you imagine how that would have gone down?

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- BOUGHT YOUR SILO YET?
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:19pm
  Perhaps something like this:
  
  Dispatch: She’s got a weapon?
  Husband: Yes.
  Dispatch: Tell your wife to put it down. She’s going to be fine, police is on the way.
  Husband: What?
  Dispatch: Yes, tell your wife to lay down the gun and move herself and the kids far, far, away from it. Police will be there soon.
  Husband: She’s shooting him, she’s shooting him!
  Dispatch: What! Why? Sir, you need to tell your wife to stop shooting the intruder. The police will be there momentarily and it will all get worked out then. But, you can’t just go around shooting intruders. Blah, bla blah, bla bla blah blah-
  
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DoOrDie
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:18pm
I don’t care if your down on your luck, if you’ve had a bad break in life, if your parents were not good parents, someone hurt your feelings, you are a minority, you were raised in the hood, you’re “disabled”, or you can’t hold a job, when you commit a major crime like this, you deserve to be shot dead. You are a menace that society doesn’t need. Every single person has just as many problems as another, but you have to have morals and a conscience, which thugs don’t have. Shame this POS lived, because after he serves his two years, he’ll do it again.

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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:40pm
  I agree, and may I add, I pay my mortgage, and that payment doesn’t include a low life’s entrance.
  
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ThomasUSA
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:18pm
It IS our GOD given right to defend ourselves and with superior force. I’m so glad this story turned out the way it did… The “perp” who may have raped and killed everyone in that house, took his chances and lost… The lady who was forced to defend herself and family, had to go through a terrible experience that she was able to turn into the best possible outcome. God be with this family as they learn to understand and move on from this experience and I hope they never have to go through anything like this again.. But I’ll bet you.. they will be even better prepared the next time.

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Truthmonster
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:18pm
That poor robber , killer, rapist he just wanted to get his obama phone upgraded. Will his EBT card pay for his medical. Where is Al not Sharpton at?

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- 50211bs
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:32pm
  Truth, he’s to busy talking about the need to take away that mothers right to defend her children with a gun.
  
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tunnelboy
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:17pm
Next step is to purchase a bigger caliber handgun for this young lady.

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- Cemoto78
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:39pm
  A nice 12 gauge with buck shot would have been a nice touch.
  
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BARELYHANGINGON
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:13pm
Doug, I’m with you on rule 1. But if someone breaks in my house and comes at me or my family there will be no conversation, I will assume he is there to bodily harm us and I will use whatever force I have at my disposal to dispose of him. And there will be no attempt at withdrawal. Once he takes away my right to safety in my own home, he loses his.

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KLT
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:09pm
That poor man he was only trying to help obo redistribute. He did not need to be shot for upholding federal policy.
When seconds count , The police are only minutes away.

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- Witness1974
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:42pm
  “When seconds count , The police are only minutes away.” Well said! This is exactly the crux of the gun debate in a nutshell. The police cannot protect the innocent except in the rarest of instances. The Second Amendment was never meant to allow hunters to have rifles. It was meant to allow law abiding citizens the right to have a weapon at their disposal to use against bad guys–all bad guys, whether their intent is to do bodily harm, take another’s posessions, molest, or enslave them. A tyrant is a tyrant, whether he’s wearing a hoody, a suit and tie, or a uniform. It is so obvious that we cannot have “Life, Liberty, or the Pursuit of Happiness unless we can protect ourselves, our families, and our property.
  
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- supermansdad
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:05pm
  This is the exact reason that as a police officer I personally want every person without a felony or mental illness that precludes possession of arms to be well armed! My sidearm and other weapons are to protect me. And even if I do have the ability to be in a position to protect you it’s likely going to be too late if he is already in the home.
  
  Own weapons, train with them, keep them loaded, recieve PROFESSIONAL training, teach your family to use them, train on other weapon systems and be familar with their usage, keep them readily available, train with them again and again and again. Have a plan for when it goes wrong, envision possible situations.
  
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AzThunder
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:09pm
Melinda Herman – Your Children, Husband and your Community should be very PROUD of You. I know I am…!

Thank You for being a True American.

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- TiffanyB50
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:30pm
  I second that.
  
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- casseopea42
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:49pm
  I want to give her a hug.
  
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uptickusa
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:08pm
Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum

If you want peace prepare for war-she did it-Navy SEALS motto

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- kickagrandma
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:16pm
  Thank you!
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:43pm
  Right on, UPTICKUSA!!!!
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 10:53pm
  @UPTICKUSA
  Love it! So are you? You know his plan is to have you all killed or otherwise neutralized.
  
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woodyee
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:06pm
Hooray!!!

Anotha one bites the dust,
and anotha one bites the dust, hey hey! Chased the family all the way to the attic, when all he had left to do was clean the place out. and his motive was?……..

Any American Communist Lawyers Union attorney try to defend that dirtbag, and I think they’ll have H3ll to pay for…

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Armyof One
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:05pm
She sure could have used an AR15 and a 30 round magazine….

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- CZGUY
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:47pm
  YES she could have, What if their were more than One BAD Guy? Her and the kids my not me here today. She is lucky there was only one.
  
  Good shooting…
  
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jcldwl
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:05pm
Now that’s a good shoot. Glad she was able to defend herself and family. After all if a bad guys chases you into your attic, he is going to seriously hurt or kill you. Good for these people.

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thegreatcarnac
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:04pm
I have heard that tape and his coaching. SHe saved her life and her children. God bless her. If obama had his way..she would be raped and killed and her children killed also. Remember….the police get there just in time to draw the chalk-line around your body.

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USMCEOD
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:03pm
Nothing puts a smile on my face like a home owner emptying a revolver into an intruder. The husband needs to get her a 40 or 45. A 38 will do the job but as a general rule you should never bring a pistol to the fight whose caliber does not begin with a “4″

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- woodyee
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:07pm
  How do you write off the .223, Marine?
  
  LOL! Semper Fidelis!!!
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:28pm
  Thank you, Marine. You’re a gentleman.
  
  I agree with you, but I encourage my students to use what they’re comfortable with. I instill in them that IF they have to pull the trigger for self-defense, then they best aim to stop the offense. Three rounds and good shot placement then negates the need for a knock-down round like a .45 – get my drift? Most of my female students can fire a .45, but most are most comfortable, thus more accurate, with a 9mm.
  
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demsrtraitors
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:01pm
She did the right thing. You fire until the threat is gone. Hell, even officers empty their magazines when they start shooting. You never see any officers going to jail when they shoot someone 40 X or more. Its how they are trained.

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coyote1hell
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:00pm
This is gun control at it’s finest…unload on the SOBS………perfect…..protect Yours…

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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:46pm
  Agreed, out with the trash!
  
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- Fubared
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 7:01pm
  Say it like Gump: ” she shot him, a lot.”
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:00pm
Fortes fortuna adiuvat!

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- rosecityken
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:04pm
  yes it certainly does.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:14pm
  The good fortune to assist in fate…
  Am I close?
  If so… Well said…
  
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- Exidor
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:29pm
  Yes sir, it does.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:47pm
  Exidor – Thank you, I knew that I had gotten rusty but obviously was taught very well.
  
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- sasquatch08
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 11:26pm
  @DADROCKED and EXIDOR:
  
  Your Latin is rusty. Fortes fortuna adiuvat! means “Fortune favors the brave”.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:00pm
Good people are armed with wits and Guns and the Truth.

The common law elements of self-defense are four; be innocent of instigation, use sufficient force only to deliver oneself from evil, be in reasonable fear of bodily harm, attempt to withdraw.

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- hostiletimes
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:07pm
  the last phrase seems odd! you should never have to leave your home!!!!! the castle doctrine in texas
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:23pm
  Common law predates even Texas.
  
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- Nancys Red Diaper Doper Babies
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:33pm
  “use sufficient force only to deliver oneself from evil”
  
  Can anyone define sufficient force? Per Hollywood double tapping is sufficient when deailing with zombies but there’s always that severly wounded bad guy that manages to re-arm himself and shoot someone.
  
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- hostiletimes
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:38pm
  your right!!! but we are in hostiletimes
  
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- DougHuffman
  Posted on January 10, 2013 at 6:38pm
  Then tell the court. The prosecution will have to prove excessive force as an element of the crime.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:42am
  Hey. Doug, that was English law and utterly insane. Way back in 1921, SCOTUS ruled that “a defendant does not have a duty to retreat from anywhere he has a legal right to be.” Very few states still hold limited duty to retreat laws, certainly not in your own home. Given we now have a commie in the WH, if your state does not have SYG laws, I strongly recommend you move to a state that does.
  
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- CommonSenseTalk
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 12:10pm
  stand your grounds, never turn from an attacker, unless you want to be shot in the back. When is it a good idea to turn and run from attacking animal?
  
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- supermansdad
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:54pm
  Attempt to withdraw doesn’t allways mean from your home. And while Castle Doctrine in TX as well as here in OK says no retreat is needed it generally shows very bad for you if you are chasing the subject down the street as he flees. You have become the aggressor if the person is no longer attempting to harm you or others and no longer has means with which to do so.
  
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