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Gun Advocate Shocks CNN Co-Panelist: Slavery Potentially Wouldn’t Have Happened if Blacks Had Guns

Jan. 11, 2013 1:36pm Billy Hallowell

Larry Ward, chairman of “Gun Appreciation Day (GAD)” and president of Political Media, Inc., raised eyebrows — and debate — today with a controversial statement he made about firearms and slavery. Arguing that guns are essential to preserving Americans’ freedom and liberty, Ward said on CNN that, had African Americans been armed, the institution of human servitude might not color the nation’s past. TheBlaze spoke with the advocate following the segment to clarify his remarks.

“I think Martin Luther King would agree with me, if he were alive today, that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country’s founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history,” he proclaimed in the CNN interview. “And I believe wholeheartedly that it’s essential to liberty.”

His on-air opponent, Maria Roach of United for Change USA, immediately called his claim “ridiculous,” going on to subsequently dismiss Ward’s GAD efforts.

Watch the exchange, below:

A longer version of the clip can be viewed here:

In a phone interview with TheBlaze, when asked to clarify his comments, Ward explained his reasoning in detail.

“The point — and I think it’s a pretty simple one — is that well-armed citizenry are essential to liberty and without a well-armed people, the government or a group of tyrants can enslave them,” said the GAD leader.

Liberal blog ThinkProgress voiced its angst over the comments in a post earlier in the day on Friday:

When confronted with the fact that Gun Appreciation Day coincides with the celebration of civil rights icon Martin Luther King, Jr, who was assassinated with a gun, Ward insisted that his event “honors the legacy of Dr. King.” Ward didn’t stop there; he argued that if African slaves had been armed, they would have been able to prevent slavery from ever happening [...]

Maria Roach of United for Change USA pointed out that many people were outraged over the attempted co-opting of MLK Day, calling it a “power play.” Martin Luther King, Jr. a strict disciple of peaceful resistance, was shot by an assassin in 1968. The Gun Control Act of 1968, the nation’s first comprehensive federal firearms regulation, was passed in response to King’s assassination, as well as the murders of John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Malcolm X.

Ward also neglects to mention that in fact there were many armed uprisings by slaves, as early as 1526. Armed revolts almost always failed, and often led to retribution by the slave owners, who had the justice system on their side. Most famously, Nat Turner led a rebellion that resulted in 60 white deaths and 100 black deaths. The state later executed 56 blacks accused of being involved in the insurrection, and white mobs beat and killed at least 200 others in revenge.

When asked to respond to anyone who may be put off by his statements, Ward said that he felt he didn’t say anything offensive.

“I think that slavery was a black mark on this country and it’s — we fixed it — we got rid of it,” he continued. “[But] there’s no harm in looking back and saying, ‘Well, why did that happen?’ I believe one of the reasons why African Americans were enslaved is because they didn’t have the right to fight back.”

While ThinkProgress makes the claim that revolts were attempted and failed, Ward notes that African Americans were not permitted to own guns, with the latter fact, in his view, impacting their ability to seek adequate justice and protection for themselves.

What do you think? Did Ward make a valid point — or no? Let us know in the comments section below.

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Comments (145)

Im_Rick_James
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:23pm
I think the dude is spot on. This stupid lady didn’t know how to respond – her talk about “possessions” was a complete non-sequitur. If blacks had been just as well armed as whites in the early days of our country, I can all but d$mn well guarantee you that slavery would have never existed in the early United States.

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- naughtycal
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:02pm
  Got new for her there were plenty of free educated blacks in American before and after the revolutionary war. They stayed free their children were free and there childrens children were.
  Slaved blacks were to quote unquote uncivilized unreligious blacks brought to this country as slave.
  Fact is the first slave owner in America was a black man. An indentured servent he got his like most white people got here paying his passage with years of labor.
  http://cofcc.org/2012/03/americas-first-slave-owner-was-a-black-man/
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:22pm
  So i guess the Moral of the story is that (some) of Founding Fathers screwed up.
  
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- cindy g
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:23pm
  The NRA was instrumental in training and arming black US for their protection, during the KKK era.
  
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- doomytram
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:30pm
  What about Benghazi? What about Obmmunism? What about Fast n Furious (Gun running) Gun control ( Gun Grabbing) What about the half of a decade of America in Decline (No leadership) just Bozo country destroying?
  
  The ridiculous Media Controlled Akin stuff is like the Herman Cain scandal. (Cain is winning in the polls for GOP president one week. The next week he is out of the race, because a broke woman who lives in the same high rise as Axelrod makes bogus fabricated allegations and they bring in Gloria Alred. Commie News Network runs 78 hours of non stop propaganda on Cain and the next week he is down 20 in the polls. You faux news drones on blaze were saying well I guess we can’t support Cain anymore. Well, duh, I guess we gotta believe Axelrod on this one. Duh….
  
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- forthepeople
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:31pm
  Since the dawn of history the Black Man has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
  His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled. A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use. He lived as an ox, content to graze for an hour. In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
  With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf on his beach, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.” — Charles Darwin
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:45pm
  .Well, if we’er going to give History lessons about our Country then we should give thanks to the Haitian Revolution where the slaves won their freedom against the French
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Louisiana Purchase……http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_Purchase
  
  France controlled this vast area from 1699 until 1762, the year it gave the territory to its ally Spain. Under Napoleon Bonaparte, France took back the territory in 1800 in the hope of building an empire in North America. A slave revolt in Haiti and an impending war with Britain, however, led France to abandon these plans and sell the entire territory to the United States, who had originally intended only to seek the purchase of New Orleans and its adjacent lands.
  
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- @leftfighter
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:46pm
  Agree.
  
  He’s dead on and Think Progress getting all huffy about it proves it.
  
  I will say this: TP is correct in pointing out that there were a few armed revolts. They’re wrong in taking his point to a logical end: a slave revolt of 200 is easily put down. A slave revolt of 1000? Still. 10,000? 100,000? The mere fact that slaves were not allowed to (and severely punished if they did) own weapons tells you everything you need to know on this point.
  
  If the entire slavepopulation of America was armed in 1774, I’d be willing to bet that slavery would have died by the time the Declaration of Independence was ratified.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:55pm
  @ LeftFighter:
  
  “If the entire slave population of America was armed in 1774, I’d be willing to bet that slavery would have died by the time the Declaration of Independence was ratified.”
  
  More likely, there would have been no Declaration and no USA. Some slaves were in fact given arms during the Revolution–by the British, for use against Patriot slaveholders.
  
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- ltb
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:30pm
  What he said is a no brainer. I defy anyone to name one group of people in history who have been enslaved while they were heavily armed. There may have been groups of people who had their weapons taken after being conquered and were then enslaved, but it doesn’t take a genius to realize that people who want to enslave other people aren’t going to be very successful if the potential slaves can fight back with deadly force.
  
  Again, we have to keep bringing the argument back to this point: The 2nd Amendment is not about hunting it’s about being able to protect ourselves from tyrants and any arguments that don’t center around this premise are irrelevant. Not only that, but when Liberals keep ignoring that basic premise, it should be obvious that their end goal is to enslave you.
  
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- Zwolle
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:59pm
  Cindy,
  
  The NRA was founded to teach Yankees to shoot shortly after the War of Northern Aggression. Statistics showed that the southerners were better shots. :)
  
  Z
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:02pm
  History people. They do not teach history anymore.
  
  The Irish slave trade began when James II sold 30,000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation of 1625 required Irish political prisoners be sent overseas and sold to English settlers in the West Indies.
  
  “From 1641 to 1652, reland quickly became the biggest source of human livestock for English merchants.”
  
  “During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.”
  
  Many people today will avoid calling the Irish slaves what they truly were: Slaves. They’ll come up with terms like “Indentured Servants” to describe what occurred to the Irish. However, in most cases from the 17th and 18th centuries, Irish slaves were nothing more than human cattle.
  
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- ron2win
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 7:53pm
  I think he has a point . Who would be willing to chase an armed escaped slave, or any one else armed for that matter. thru dense woods. The lybril’s can’t ever wrap their heads around anything other then their worn out propaganda .
  
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- G-WHIZ
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 10:04am
  Poverty and lack-o-weppons kept SLAVES from being ABLE to FREE THEMSELVES!! iF Y’O SO BROKE and “PO’ ” and WEAK from lack-o-food…you could be easilly SLAVES. too! Lookit the NORTH KOREANS …they’re so broke they cannot even moove a few hundred feet, besides even mooving out of their dedadly-oppressive country!! They are SUBJECTS(peons/slaves) TO THEIR KING!
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 11:10am
  CONGALESIA RICE (SEC. OF STATE) TOLD A GUN STORY
  
  When she was young, her father had a shot gun that he used to protect their neighborhood against rioting KKK members who were burning down black homes during the Civil Rights War era of the 60s. If her father did not have that shot gun, their home would have been burned to the ground.
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 11:18am
  ITS THE LAW
  
  Americans everywhere today are as angry with the rogue US Federal Government as they were at Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany in 1940. Both Nazi and Japanese governments were doing to people then what our government is doing to us right now. We are quickly approaching a trip wire, a decision point about what it means to be an American and this is not what it means. If the trip wire is stepped on, a horror will be un-leased never seen before in a nation of 330 million.
  
  Those who support the renegade and illegal Federal Government must realize that any hostility will occur in the cities. Battles will not be fought in the wood, out in the open or in suburbia where our renegade forces have an advantage. The insurgency will occur in the cities to insure the rogue government’s military gun ships and bombers destroy the cities trying to drive out the freedom fighters. Imagine the millions of refugees pouring out of American cities seeking food, water and shelter in the suburban communities during battles. You Liberals better visualize hundreds of American cities turned into German Dresden’s or Japanese Tokyo’s during WWII. Is it worth all of that while trying to establish a Communist Republic? Millions will die just from a cut off of their prescription medicines and a shut down of city food distribution centers. America may be a supper power, but it is also “supper vulnerable.”
  
  Only peaceful secession can prevent the total destruction of
  
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spirited
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:20pm
The discussion of blacks and guns at this time need not be associated with the horrors and sins of past-accepted slavery in the world. We all know it was wrong; ~period.

What needs to be talked about,
are the number of gun wounds and murders ‘today’
by the hand of illegal held guns.

How many murders in 2012 were commited by legal gun owners?

More importantly,
~~>WHY are WE ‘talking’ about gun control and (past) slavery
INSTEAD of demanding & obtaining the facts about President Obama’s Fast & Furious??????

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:51pm
  I think it is because Fast and Furious will lead nowhere. Even if he ordered the sale of weapons personally to the cartels, no Dem in the Senate will convict in an impeachment trial. Therefore the House will never bother to vote for any articles. It might discredit him some with some independents but any true justice is impossible.
  
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- Female
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:59pm
  The point was that an unarmed people is an easier to enslave people. I watch “Django” last night and was quite please to watch Jamie Fox’s character shoot all the bad guys (who were white and Samuel Jackson) and then blow-up the plantation house. Black slavery is just one example of slavery in the history of the world. When people have no ability to defend themselves or are out gunned (technologically speaking, too); they are made victims and slaves of criminals and tyrants.
  
  2nd amendment is to protect Americans from an oppressive government trying to take too much or enslave it’s people and to have a civilian army in case of invasion. We are quickly entering a time where the guns on the market whether assault auto, semi, revolver, etc. will be no match for the technological weapons such as drones, lasers, emp which are designed to stop a human heart through a pulse or radio wave, plus chemicals or biological superbugs..
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 12, 2013 at 11:31am
  DOES EVERYTHING IN AMERICA NOW HAVE TO RACIALLY JUSTIFIED.
  
  Does everything have to receive the Black Seal of Approval. I think not. Who cares if guns keep Blacks Free. Over 500 people were shot in Chicago in 2012 and over half were children. So what does that matter? If you have a gun, better learn to use it well.
  
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Eastinfection
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:20pm
This is idiotic.
Bet they wouldn’t have been enslaved if they had force fields & light-sabers, either.

You know what would have REALLY saved most of them from slavery?
If they weren’t all in different tribes that were hell bent on destroying each other, and instead were united in a mission to defeat & repel their European “business partners”, they might have stood a chance. As long as they were betraying each other, and investing in the scheme for their own personal tribal-territorial greed, they were doomed.

See: American Indians, Scottish Clans, Chinese barbarians, and every other tribal group over-run by Organized Empirical Forces.
They all had the same belief in common and made the same critical tactical error. They thought, “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”

Survey Says?

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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:26pm
  “Scottish Clans”
  
  True. Sadly true. We even brought some of it over here with us, leading to several famous feuds. Us Gaels are energetic and have a hot temper at times. It’s why the British put us on the front line of their military for the last 300 years, as we’re constantly in a state of being p*ssed off. :)
  
  Your comments are spot on. Before I got to your list my first thought was “that is absolutely true and wildly applicable to American Indians as well”.
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:10pm
  Uh doesn’t this guy know that many larger African tribes had guns (that they bought or traded for), and African tribes were enslaving other African tribes? .
  
  Perhaps those with guns misused those guns to enslave other tribes. And maybe a few limited the enslavemen of their tribe by using guns. However, overall funs had little to do with the equation, for good or bad.
  
  But seriously it’s not a strict black and white analogy. It has logical flaws. It’s borderline insensitive, to the point that anti-gun people could attack its premises.
  
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- TheseTruths
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:17pm
  And does this apply to conservatives today? Factions within the Republican Party, haters of the Tea Party and Libertarians, the Beck/Alex Jones feud, etc.? Seems we need to unite against tyranny.
  
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- TheseTruths
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:19pm
  And does this apply to conservatives today? Factions within the Republican Party, haters of the Tea Party and LIbertarians, the Beck/Alex Jones feud? Seems we need to unite against tyranny.
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:40pm
  THESETRUTHS….
  
  You’re right, of course, but this will never happen because we’ll always be split on the social issues and whether or not Tyranny is ok if it enforces our personal ideologies.
  Most Conservatives just refuse to acknowledge that their Civil and Social preferences are not, necessarily, Constitutionally enforceable.
  Too many people are “1-issue” voters…
  Abortion, drugs, gays, military, etc.
  If we were united on individual Constitutional rights, combined with economics, we’d have a shot.
  But most of us are uncompromising on at least one of those four issues, although none of them define Conservatism.
  
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- SacredHonor1776
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:32pm
  Divide and conquer…
  
  Hang together, or we all will surely hang alone.-Ben Franklin.
  
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- Zwolle
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:57pm
  Ghost –
  
  I have a bit of a beef when it comes to the indians. I’m not arguing the “they were here first” bit, but the indians did not have much of a problem with accepting firearms from the British and the Spanish to either kill colonists (Spanish and western Kentucky) or rivals (Brits or Spanish – depending who ‘hired’ provided the arms).
  
  Hope you had a great holiday!
  
  Respectfully,
  Z
  
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GoodCook
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:18pm
The tyrannical treasonist radical Democrat Party and all its supporters want you enslaved to government controlled by them. Remember it was the Democrats that had slaves and it was the
REPUBLICANS that freed them.

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TIMEBOMB
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:10pm
I hate this story,if America never had slaves then how could I as your gay Marxist ruler have engaged in the race baiting class warfare that I so skillfully used to keep me in power? No I need blacks here in new America to always feel like the victim,it’s good for me. Praise be to me BHO.
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:15pm
  Don’t forget, your majesty, that your father (not your pops who is someone else) but that guy from Kenya, likely had ancestors that sold blacks to the British, Dutch, and Spanish slave traders.
  
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- jcldwl
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Thanks for the humor timebomb. You always give me a good laugh.
  
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- TIMEBOMB
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:25pm
  Your magnificent ruler appreciates when one of his subjects displays some intelligence,not too much though because the focus should always be on me at all times,at any rate thanks for your input loyal subject. Back away slowly now your magnificent ruler has much more destruction planned for your country and it’s taxing (no pun intended) on even my superior brain. Praise be to me BHO.
  
  BTW for your efforts you’ll receive one extra ration of soylent green for one month.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:57pm
  @Cavallo: Not likely. It was Arab slave-traders, not Europeans, who operated in Kenya.
  
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TheRimGreapor
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:10pm
Unmistakably these people are predisposed to slavery – we gave them their freedom and they prefer to be slaves to the Democrat Task Master. Most of them have guns now and can’t see they are still on the plantation. They were dumb enough to be wondering around without the means to protect themselves in their home country – they never recognize who freed them or gave them equal rights and have tried to put them on the path of self awareness but they refuse to study history – they have no idea who they are – but they can play victim like nobody’s business. They are the ONLY minority refusing to pull them selves up by the bootstraps – think about this – a Cuban can FLOAT over on a garbage can lid and take over South Florida, they trade, buy and lift up each other – and did so in a matter of 40 years. Blacks have had over 150 years and they are still whining after affirmative action and a Black President at 1600. Sorry guys – I got no time for these buffoons.

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LeadNotFollow
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:06pm
I’m still waiting for Blacks to step up and do something good, decent, and positive, with their God given opportunity.

Blacks were brought to the land of opportunity. They have completely wasted this wonderful opportunity. They would rather constantly act like victims. Blacks have had their freedom for approx. 150 years now.

Message to Black community: GET OVER IT, and do something with your lives!
You moochers, get your hands out of my pockets and earn your own way. The only way you will ever be truly respected is to earn respect.

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- kickagrandma
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:20pm
  Looking to their homeland and its sterling records of human rights, work, etc. Yep.
  
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BasketFullOfPuppies
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:04pm
Looking to the past, and playing “what if” is folly. Woulda, coulda, shoulda. But, that is also the reason that we must prevent this from happening. We have to learn from our history, and the history of others, in order to prevent the same mistakes from happening.

I have no idea if guns would’ve prevented slavery. But, I am sure that they would’ve made it much more difficult to start. The lady that seems to think that she speaks for MLK, should also know that MLK was a gun owner, that lost his life to a coward that shot him from a distance, and with no warning. So, he was never given the chance to defend his life. But, I would hazard a guess that if he had been given that chance, he would have pulled the trigger.

It also bears noting that most of us are also for “peaceful” resistance. We don’t want the government to do something, and we are protesting their intended action. Where it goes from there, would seem to be up to them. But, I have wondered for years, whether Civil War II would be because of gun control. I don’t want it. I don’t wish for it. I want the government to have the wisdom to stand down on an obvious attempt to control the citizenry. I want them to punish those that misuse guns in the commission of real crimes.

But, most of all, I want them to stop taunting people by threatening to remove their rights, at every turn.

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bonesiii
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:03pm
And how did we fix it?

With guns.

Besides, if MLK had a gun to protect himself, who knows? He might be alive today. The whole point is that those with nefarious motives are willing to break gun laws, so self-defense is needed.

I do think there’s a point against this argument, that guns do take ammo and small uprisings as that liberal blogger cited were doomed. However, this argument only works as long as the guns are rare among the oppressed group. If they had a more equal amount of them, the results could have been very different (although there are other factors like military training and the like).

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- freedomnetworker
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:17pm
  Here is something people fail to admit. Black people were here at the same time as all the Scotts, Irish, Germans and dutch. It was discovered or I should say found that the blacks had a higher tolerance for heat and many other things so soon after plantation owners would barter with Africans to sell there families into slavery. At this point slaves where given a value unlike the others who would just be replaced by the thousands of them coming to The new America. Then it took on a whole new meaning. So… If Africans back then or to soon be called blacks had fire arms yes they would of been free still and there would be no need for the emancipation proclamation at all; it would be a completely different story now. But those who would argue this are also the same people that say the absence of guns keeps us safe so.. what are you to do.. People look at history with filters and refuse to look at the whole of it to see even the great thing that came from evil things and are now use for good.
  
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progressiveslayer
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:57pm
Why do people keep referring to the mythical ‘African American’? There’s no such being it’s just a made up idiotic PC term. Slavery has been with mankind throughout time and of course it’s evil and wrong,they shouldn’t have ever brought slaves to America,it would’ve saved us a lot of grief.

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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Yep and now look at what we have to deal with..http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/11/shocker-farrakhan-loves-movie-django-unchained-says-its-preparation-for-race-war/
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:11pm
  We are a nation of minorities.
  
  Czechs, German, Korean, Dutch, English, French, Spanish, Indian, Polish, Native, Japanese, Italian, Chinese, Scottish, Vietnamese, all coexist here away from their motherland of origin.
  
  So by this logic, people of African descent are the majority in America, not the minority.
  
  I am 8 parts of different ethnic backgrounds. But do I care?
  
  No, I’m an American first, straight white caucasian conservative or whatever other label else, second.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:14pm
  Louie is as vile as Barry,Sharpton and all the Jackson’s.
  
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- Anonymous T. Irrelevant
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:22pm
  PROGRESSIVESLAYER
  That’s the first thing I noticed. The correct thing to say would have been “If Africans had guns back then, they could have avoided slavery.” Of course, we all know, if they had, had guns back then, they would be just like they are now, poor and ruled by ruthless dictators.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:22pm
  The term “African American” was coined in 1987….
  
  Never existed before then to my knowledge.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:24pm
  @CIVILWARCOMETH
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Yep and now look at what we have to deal with..
  http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/11/shocker-farrakhan-loves-movie-django-unchained-says-its-preparation-for-race-war/
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  Yes, but there is another side to that coin.
  
  The “takers” who voted The Chocolate King into power —–
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSBUBeUoVj0
  
  They’ll go down fast. Dumb as a box of rocks.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:47pm
  Jesse Jackson started the name African American.
  
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- ALLEGIANCE
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:57pm
  PROGRESSIVSLAYER
  
  Do you ever tire of allowing satan to enter and exit via your tongue and mouth. So White people are the ones who suffered because of slavery? Black people were just whipped to death, made to work in deplorable weather, sold off away from their family members, including children and spouses. Killed or maimed if they dared to run away. Raped, spat on, hung in front of cheering mobs, burned etc. Yes, they inconvenienced White people, by making them do all of those things to them. I know you more than likely realize how evil spirited you are, but am not too sure that you are aware of how mentally unbalanced you are.
  
  As for the guy who said Blacks would have prevented slavery had they had guns, WOW. What people will do and say, to keep worshipping their guns. Just plain ridiculous. And all of these links you all are placing on this site about Black people selling blacks to Europeans, who do you all think you are fooling. There is some truth to Africans making available weakers Africans by way of capture, but you all are trying to make those evil Europeans look like mere innocent investors who were summoned to go to Africa and forced to buy humans to be kidnaped into their demise. For all of you evil people who constantly accuse me and others of White Guilt, that is the prime example of White guilt. Making yourself look blameless while making it seem as if the very captives were to blame.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 6:03pm
  Allegiance What part of slavery is evil and wrong are you incapable of comprehending? That’s what I wrote but you seem to see what you want to see and not what’s written. You need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
  
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:57pm
“I think Martin Luther King would agree with me, if he were alive today, that if African Americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country’s founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history.”

Only one problem with this magical thinking—-They were slaves prior to day one of the country’s founding. Slavery was already a chapter in our history. Emancipation would have had to occur because who arms a slave and expects to remain alive.

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- chingachgook
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:08pm
  That is the exact poit once you arm a man he is free. That I believe is was a motovating reason for those black who foght in the Civila war did so. His remark was to make a point not to rewrite history.
  
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- chingachgook
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:15pm
  The point is when you arm a man he is free. The statement was making that point and not to rewrite history. It also is what the government (any government) knows. You must disarm the population to fully control your population.
  
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Nevermind
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:55pm
Main problem with this tpoic is that “Well regulated militia” was defined as able bodied white men. It wasnt unitl 1866 that blaccks were legally allowed to own a firearm. This countries racist roots werent mentioned by this person for a reason. It sounds great to have this vision of America back then being all about freedom for all but that wanst true. Just freedom for white men

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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:02pm
  So what is your point? It was not reasonable to let Blacks own firearms in 1866?
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:02pm
  The preposition was proceeded by the word “IF” dumb@zz
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:04pm
  Have you ever been to D.C.? You should, it’s a great experience.
  
  If you’ve ever seen the Washington monument, it has more features than meet the eye.
  
  It has dust, cracks from earthquakes, erosion from wind, even rust, but this is all near the top.
  
  This can be said about America.
  
  We have scars.
  
  They may never go away, that is why we have written the 13th and 14th amendment in stone, not sand, so that our mistakes may never be washed away by the tides of time.
  
  …..But we have learned. In the 1960s, a black teen had more of a chance at going to college than a white teen in England did.
  
  Oprah Winfrey has as much power to influence what’s on the dinner table tomorrow night.
  
  Barack Obama has as much influence to plunge the world into nuclear war as Commander in Chief
  
  We have come so, so far.
  
  Past is not always prologue.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:08pm
  And if you lived in Africa, you as a white person would have been a slave as well. No “race” is immune from taking slaves. There’s no denying we have a sin mark on our nation, that we inherited from our British roots. It should be noted though that the moment we left Britain, some states immediately outlawed slavery, long before Britain (Pennsylvania, for example). We were not perfect, and we need to fess up to that and not candy coat it, but on the other hand using it as a whipping post as a demonstration of Kant’s “Perfect Reason” dismantling of actual reason argument, really doesn’t have value. All of Europe had slaves at one time or another. They even made slaves of each other. And so did the Chinese, the Africans and every other nation and race.
  
  That being said, the injustice of slavery was cured BY the West, since the contradiction of “freedom and liberty” did not hold up well while men were in chains. We did what nobody else had done before, we abolished slavery based on principle alone. That’s something to be very, very proud of.
  
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- Beachmastermax
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:09pm
  Slavery is not a race issue. Every race had slaves. Every race has been enslaved. Slavery was a direct result of one population losing a conflict to another population.
  
  Today, in the U.S., the black race’s fixation on the slavery issue being mutually exclusive to themselves, when in fact it is not, is just a phsycological response for some deficiency (not p*nis envy) they percieve themselves having.
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:11pm
  Not true.
  
  “The ranks of the colonial militia were usually filled by average citizens. They came from all walks of life and different ethnic groups. Many of them were native-born colonists, British immigrants, as well as free blacks.”
  
  http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2001_winter_spring/colonial_militia.html
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:17pm
  Seems to me that the Stockbridge Indians were not white & owned guns in Colonial & post colonial America.
  
  To go thru your argument we would have to look at state by state. But judging from your past posts, others will have to do this as you will not.
  
  You made an assertion & you will keep asserting it until you are proven wrong so many times that you finally take your marbles & go home.
  
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The-Monk
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:51pm
The first slave owner in the US was a black man…..

http://guides.wikinut.com/Anthony-Johnson%3B-American-s-First-Slave-Owner/20va9y_5/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Casor

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- RDavis49
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:55pm
  Oh Stop confusing the issue with Facts….. That doesn’t help advance the lie people want to hear…
  
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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:56pm
  Whites and Indians were also slaves. The blacks became slaves because the Muslims and Blacks in africa could supply them much cheaper than Indians and Whites (whites and Natives also had a higher chance of escaping and running off compared to a population that was transplanted from a continent thousands of miles away across the ocean.
  
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- BasketFullOfPuppies
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:09pm
  Don’t forget that they were brought here by the muslims, too.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade
  
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- booger71
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 3:36pm
  Cavallo
  ========
  Your right, the term “red neck” originated in South Carolina, where Irish slave were both slaves and indentured servants, owned by other whites and blacks.
  
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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:07pm
  “The first slave owner in the US was a black man…..” Why does this factoid keep coming up as it were more than a piece of trivia? The fact is, for most of the colonial era and for 90 years thereafter, slavery in the US was almost exclusively a white-over-black institution. We all know this perfectly well, yet this item with its link keeps bobbing up like a piece of doody that won’t flush, as if we were supposed to draw some profound conclusion from it.
  
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Spinetti
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:50pm
If blacks had guns during slavery, they would still have been home-invaduz and gangstuz and drive-by shootuz. We are talking DNA here.

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- Brizz
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:07pm
  -Spinetti-
  What an impudent display of ignorance.
  
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- Brizz
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:09pm
  SPINETTI
  What an impudent display of ignorance.
  
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banjarmon
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:47pm
This lady is fantastic and Right on in her opinion!!
Watch!!

You Can’t Ban Evil
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn7bkncf1_E&feature=youtu.be

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- Al J Zira
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:08pm
  Amen, sister!
  
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BODYBAG
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:47pm
IF BLACKS HAD GUNS, IT’S POSSIBLE SLAVERY WOULDN’T HAVE HAPPENED

If we’re playing the game of 20/20 hindsight then a true statement.
Whether intended or not, I love the pure genius behind making the statement with a black opponent
who subsequently calls it “ridiculous”.

Armed blacks are STILL victims?
Hilarious.

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13th Imam
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:46pm
Chicago

Detroit

Hartford

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BlackCrow
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:45pm
If blacks had guns 300 years ago the ones with guns would have taken the ones without guns and sold them to the Europeans as slaves. They do it today only they sell the slaves to the Arabs and well off Africans instead of Europeans.

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- Lloyd Drako
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 4:28pm
  What do you mean “if?” Natives of West Africa, where most of those bound for the Americas were first enslaved, were perfectly familiar with both the use and the manufacture of firearms.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:44pm
They had a right to fight back. They always had a right to fight back. That right was prevented from being exercised by government control and oppression. The well armed blacks in Africa did not get sold into slavery. Quite a few of the well armed blacks and muslims sold the unarmed blacks to the Europeans. Weapons keep a man free. Give up your weapons and you become a slave.

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Exidor
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:44pm
Roots: The Rambo Years

I like it!

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:06pm
  LOL
  Thats funny
  
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ZRULES
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:43pm
The people of Egypt, for the most part, do not have ‘arms’ yet they fought back and overthrew their tyranical ruler. (And while the Egyptian military did not respond against their efforts, the military also did not help the ruling party.)

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- 13th Imam
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:54pm
  The Muslim Bros have the Arms now. Any but the Islamicly Pure will be exterminated. Anyone
  
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jd9215
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:43pm
If the white man just picked the damn cotton himself slavery neverwould have happened.

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- Cavallo
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:51pm
  That’s a colossal myopic and ignorant view of the development of slavery in the new world. You should really pick up a few history books and do some reading. Then again, you could possibly just be making a joke.
  
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- chips1
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:59pm
  Would everything have been different if cotton was black?
  
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- BlackCrow
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:05pm
  Slavery would have died a natural (economic) death by the 1880′s with the widespread adoption of the steam tractor. As it was blacks were exploited into the 1960′s because they sold their labor for less than what it cost to put gas in the tractor.
  
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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:40pm
Absolutely, positively agree. Though the logistics of the comment make no sense. One doesn’t bring slaves over and then arm them. And in Africa, it was their own countrymen who captured them in battle (presumably) then sold them off to Europeans. Though that does speak to his point somewhat, insofar as the Africans who *won* the battles with arms in Africa did NOT become slaves to be sold by their fellow Africans to Europeans.

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- 00100111
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:48pm
  100% Correct! If they’d had the means to fight back it never would have happened. Not here, not in Africa when/where they were sold to slavers who shipped them here.
  
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- SUNTZU
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 2:05pm
  Could have had Black dope dealing gangs
  riding real hogs,stealing chickens,Jacking trains
  Nevermind I was just thinking.
  
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- old blacksmith
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 10:18pm
  If Africans had guns then the price of African slaves woulda gone way up. British landholders in the south would have sought cheaper labor, probably Irish indentured – eastern euros – low-caste indians. Slavery without the black/white contrast less emotional, Tories grandson’s slaveholdings less valuable; two ppt’ing causes of the first civil war gone……. 750,000 American lives saved…. industrialization pushed back 20-30 years…….
  hey, can I borrow some muskets and your time machine for a minute?
  
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Tri-ox
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:39pm
The blacks who sold their own people into slavery had lots of guns.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:56pm
  That is a very valid point.
  
  Part of the problem in Africa was that Africans had a history of slavery, Europeans had a history of slavery because of wars with Islam, & African did not present an united front.
  
  Thailand presented an united front. It was not colonized. Vietnam had a civil war. It did not have an united front. It was colonized. I am not claiming it is right. It is not. I am just point it out for the leftists trolls. Ditto for China & Japan. China underwent colonization due to the Taiping & Boxer rebellions.
  
  But if all the African tribes were on a more equal footing it would have been much more difficult for some tribes to go on slaving raids against other tribes.
  
  In Nigeria priests were known to sell pilgrims to shrines into slavery. The money was good & their relatives did not know & lived far away. These were not Christian priests BTW.
  
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perry1980
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 1:37pm
probably true

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