
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nev. walks out of the House Chamber on Capitol Hill in Washington, Friday, Jan. 4, 2013, following the counting of Electoral College votes. Credit: AP
With the upcoming debt ceiling showdown approaching, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and some of his Democratic colleagues are urging President Barack Obama to go around Congress to increase the nation’s debt limit if no agreement is reached.
In an open letter to Obama on Friday, Reid and others argued that failing to increase the $16.4 trillion debt ceiling could harm the full faith and credit of the United States, Politico reported.
Reid, along with Sens. Dick Durbin, Chuck Schumer and Patty Murray, told Obama not to let Republicans take the country “hostage.”
“In the event that Republicans make good on their threat by failing to act, or by moving unilaterally to pass a debt limit extension only as part of an unbalanced or unreasonable legislation, we believe you must be willing to take any lawful steps to ensure that America does not break its promises and trigger a global economic crisis — without congressional approval, if necessary,” the letter states.
As NRO’s Charles C. W. Cooke points out, “It should go without saying that not only does Harry Reid not have the power to grant the executive branch permission to bypass the legislature, but neither does Congress.”
“Short of Congress’s abolishing the debt ceiling and making it clear in that legislation that the president has the authority to deal with borrowing henceforth — this it could do — no letter written by anybody on any subject can change the fact that current law requires congressional action if the debt ceiling is to be raised,” he wrote.
Meanwhile, not all Republican lawmakers are convinced that continuously raising the nation’s debt limit is solution to Washington’s financial problems.
In a statement Thursday, Rep. Steve Scalise (R-La.), chairman of the Republican Study Committee said the “fact that we continue hitting the debt ceiling is a symptom of Washington’s spending problem, and hitting the debt ceiling does not immediately trigger a default.”





















































































































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mcsledge
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:50pmHarry Reid just signed his treason ticket.
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muffythetuffy
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:54pmLET THE WORD GO OUT TO ALL NATIONS
If they loan money to the USA without a US Congressional approval of the Legal US Debt Ceiling, the loans will be considered gifts never to be paid. If you think we are kidding, remember how many nations refused to repay their World War I and World War II debts owned to the American people. Nations should consider that they may also be loaning money to a nation that may not be around very long.
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muffythetuffy
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:58pmYES HE DID
Harry Reid is an American citizen and can be tried for high treason. Its unfortunate that Obama is not really a US citizen and cannot be tried for treason because only citizens can commit High Treason. He was not born a US Citizen and there isn’t any record of him becoming a naturalized US citizen. It does not matter.
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ltb
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:01pmIn the 1980s I remember when the “non-essential” parts of the government shut down. The Liberals were screaming that it was the end of the world, but you know what? NOBODY NOTICED. When something is “non-essential” and you’re broke, only a moron would argue that you keep spending your money on such things. It’s like someone who’s on the verge of bankruptcy fretting about whether he should pay his cable bill, his pool service and his alarm monitoring service, or his mortgage. The problem is we have too many idiots in this country, like Harry Reid, who would actually pay their cable bill, their pool service and their alarm monitoring service, then go ask their neighbor to pay their mortgage.
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right-wing-waco
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:02pmIf Obama continues to spend over the limit we ALL need to call our reps and demand that impeachment be started. We do NOT have a king or dictator.
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Diane TX
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:06pmI say raise the debt ceiling, but by only one dollar more. Then the Republicans can say that they technically raised it. This is how Obama Care was passed, no? That ONE Republican vote, and the Democrats deemed it “bi-partisan”.
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SocialistSlayer
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:09pmHarry Reid is a Communist ! I hope Nevada is proud of him!
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Too_Far_Gone
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:14pmHarry Harry Harry, What a hole you are digging for you and your little people ..
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DSTSS2010
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:21pmImpeach the traitor! They all took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution. This is TREASON.
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000degrees
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:21pmDiane……..all no votes from the right side…..
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DarkJello
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:23pmDems/Libs/Progs don’t want “Republicans” to hold the country “hostage”, but it is PERFECTLY fine for them to trash America at the quickest pace possible???? We are falling faster and faster, but they act like “the cliff” is still off in the future… Unbelievable!!
Holder wants to shame legal gun owners. Owebama wants to shame every American.
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lani59
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:26pmHarry doesn’t give a **** about the debt ceiling, he’s already made his millions with that new bridge sitting on his land. And with comments like this coming from our Govt, tyranny will not work out for them, just ask the British.
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Godfather.1
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:27pmI guess Jason Howerton and the rest of you Blazing Constitutional scholars have not heard of Section 4 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which states, “The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.” Because the debt shall not be questioned, it is quite reasonable to argue that if Congress fails to act, the executive must.
Furthermore, raising the debt ceiling is not an issue over future spending, it’s over money already spent. Then again, Conservatives never have actually been about fiscal responsibility, they just act like it.
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The-Monk
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:36pmThe liberal definition of, “….shall not be questioned.”
Hey, you can’t question how high we drive the debt up !!!!
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DarkJello
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:39pmGodFather.1:
That legal matter is debated back and forth amongst experts to this very day.
Let us pretend that the POTUS can have the Treasury just print and print and print and print, and Congress can go F itself… Does that make America better? Stronger? More financially secure? Seen as holding increased integrity? I find your authoritative assertion anemic. Furthermore, it is my opinion that Owebama’s vision for AmeriKa = moral, spiritual, and physical death.
Good day.
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Trigus
Jan. 11, 2013 at 7:05pmCan they lawyers step in here: Charge with Treason would be nice, but sadly only Perjury we can get him and his ilk on.
18 USC § 1621 – Perjury generally
Whoever—
(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or
(2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true;
is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.
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Trigus
Jan. 11, 2013 at 7:05pmOath
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
5 U.S.C. §3331
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Sirynx77
Jan. 11, 2013 at 8:16pmNo. Harry Reid just signed his own pink slip. I just don’t know what Reid and Pelosi are thinking. I wonder if they even realize that Obama continues to misuse the executive power that he holds. Their jobs (along with all other congress people) will be obsolete. Which is of course, Obama’s own plan. Does he really think that Obama will remember him after he is no longer needed? Obama will just say “Who are you?, I don’t know you? Guards, get him away from me.” Just like the other sheep that voted for him. He doesn’t care about you. That’s why he is raising everyone’s taxes.
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WarMunger_Al
Jan. 11, 2013 at 8:35pmit is amazing how flagrantly these democrats push to violate every part of the constitution. What is more amazing is the total silence from the GOP on the violations. Every one of these people should be immediately impeached.
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WarMunger_Al
Jan. 11, 2013 at 8:39pmGodfather-
you conveniently left out the part that states Congress has the authority….
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Godfather.1
Jan. 11, 2013 at 8:58pm@WarMunger_Al
I’m assuming you are referring to Section 5 which states, “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” You’ll notice that it does not say that Congress has sole power to pass legislation to enforce this article.
Further, there are many Constitutional legal scholars who believe that the executive may act under the Fourteenth Amendment if Congress does not. I know Constitutional scholar Glenn Beck, the esteemed fellow with a law degree from University of B.S., disagrees, but he is hardly an authority on the topic.
It’s quite funny that Republicans, who started two unfunded wars, now want to prevent paying for those wars by holding up the debt ceiling.
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flyoverbob
Jan. 11, 2013 at 9:22pmWhat Boener said
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AmericanFightingMan1
Jan. 12, 2013 at 12:18amFellow Patriots, find Charlie Daniel’s “Simple Man” song and give a listen.
Tells you what to do right there. Great song.
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1911a1
Jan. 12, 2013 at 12:51amThey all seem to this Obozo is a king ? geeez folks we really need to organize and throw these bafoons out before it is too late !!!!
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JacquesChirac
Jan. 12, 2013 at 1:35amHarry, Dick, Chuckles and Patty – what do you know that we obviously don’t?? If you give your fellow democrat in the executive branch the approval to set this precedent – Article 1 arguments aside – what will happen when you own the House and a republican occupies the executive level and tries to do the same thing?
Hmmm…I’ll go out on a limb and say that you’ll mobilize your lamestream media zealots in an all-out blitzkrieg against “the imperialist republican trying to grab all that power”…
Like I said, what do you know that we don’t about the outcome of future elections???
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Obama Been Lauding
Jan. 12, 2013 at 6:28amHey Fairy Godfather1,
When was the last budget passed by the Senate?
What happens when Obama’s budget gets voted on?
Who has passed budgets in the Federal Government?
The Democrats just want to spend taxpayer money, without any limits.
And now they want to put the taxpayer in debt even further???!!!!!
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castious
Jan. 12, 2013 at 8:14amIyuh that Harry did put his name on a TREASON ticket and there are lots more peaple in power that are or have done the same
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HumbleMan
Jan. 12, 2013 at 9:03am@GODFATHER genius.
So explain to me how the salaries of the IRS, DO Education, DO Energy, HHS are “debts”. They and many other departments are non-essential.
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00100111
Jan. 12, 2013 at 7:05pmHarry, if you try and subvert the Constitution you will be found guilty of treason by We the People. You will be dealt with accordingly. Stay within your authority, which isn’t much. Tread carefully.
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dmerwin
Jan. 13, 2013 at 9:44amHarry should do his frickin’ job and pass a budget.
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I SPY
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:49pmSometimes it’s hard to believe that our great country has so many enemies – right in DC and on our payroll. The Capital has been infiltrated by communists and they hell bent on destroying us.
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muffythetuffy
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:05pmSometimes its hard to believe that so many people do not realize that the USA is over and done with. Out of self defense many people in America will approve of secession. Democrats are reaching their limit of sanity because the economy is crashing and they are unable to keep it propped up to pay for their Socialist transition. They will sell off either Alaska or California if they can find a buyer willing to accept. Alaska is a good buy, California is a disaster. Remember that governments are always selling off part of their nations to pay their debts.
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mlimberg
Jan. 11, 2013 at 7:11pmI can’t believe any of they are still around…. if you get my drift….
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Woggie
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:49pm“Reid and others argued that failing to increase the $16.4 Trillion debt ceiling could harm the full faith and credit of the United States”
REALLY!
Where was the concern with the “full faith and credit of the US” when they were spending trillions more that they were bringing into the treasury?
As a father that has children that are now spending more of their own money, which one do you suppose I have more faith in: The one that spends wildly and is always coming back asking for more or the one that is frugal and wise and keeps their spending within their income.
DUH!!!
By not raising the debt ceiling another dollar and by keeping spending within our means will not only will we keep our full faith and credit it will improve it. Just ask someone who has tried to get a loan with a poor credit score because of their lack of ability to manage their finances. The lending institution says no because the have little faith that they will get their money back. But try to get a loan with excellent credit, a whole lot less hassle because they have more faith they will get money back.
Term limits and a balanced budget amendment will go a long way to restoration of our beloved United States of America.
God bless you and these United States
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BODYBAG
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:04pm@WOGGIE
Posted on January 11, 2013 at 5:49pm
Where was the concern with the “full faith and credit of the US” when they were spending trillions more that they were bringing into the treasury?
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Ive been wanting an answer to this question for eternity
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sarcasticmama
Jan. 12, 2013 at 10:21pmIf Congress has not passed a budget in over 1350 days, I would say those expenses were not authorized and should not be paid! I don’t agree to pay for anything I didn’t authorize. No budget, no approved expenses. Period!
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common cents
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:48pmAs NRO’s Charles C. W. Cooke points out, “It should go without saying that not only does Harry Reid not have the power to grant the executive branch permission to bypass the legislature, but neither does Congress.”
And it’s already settled law, “any unconstitutional laws, are not laws at all”
I’ve wandered for several years, what the “trigger” was going to be in this country, now we know.
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tonyloaf
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:48pmIt amazes me how many Democrats want Obama to become a dictator.
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brother_ed
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:57pm@TONYLOAF
That is a sad, but apparently true statement.
It doesn’t matter if you are a Democratic politician, or just a liberal troll on this site, or a regular at the Daily Kos, they all encourage the same behavior.
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CatB
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:58pm“become” ???
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:06pm@Tony:
Obama is a dictator in all but formal name as of now; Reid has given him carte blanch to take over the rest of power as he deems necessary and Reid will ensure there is no way Obama can be stripped of office.
Reid, Pelosi and Obama are thus now guilty of usurpation of their Constitutional authority and now need to be removed from office and tried for their crimes.
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thekuligs
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:48pmOH HECK NO~ this traitor is “my” elected idiot anyway. I guess I will have to call him up and tell his poor paid interns what I think. =/
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:54pmPut in a (bad) word for me, too.
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CatB
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:59pmDitto
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tonypro
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:48pm…..and this would be different coming from the dictator ….exactly how again??????
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Beachmastermax
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:47pmThat would be an impeachable offense.
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The-Monk
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:45pmHarry Reid; Leaning Forward for his main squeeze again….
TSUNAMI_22
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:50pmWe need to grab the reins (hardcore) on these tools and impede their destructive geometry.
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JohnTwoFeathers
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:45pmIm sorry all but every time I see this slimy worm I want to chuck lunch. Never in my life have I had such a feeling about another human being. How can the citizens of Nevada re elect this miserable piece of cow flop over and over.
Semper Fi
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BODYBAG
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:03pmUnions. Thats how he stays in. NV is a legal wild west no-mans land.
Nearly anything goes there and Dingy Harry takes full advantage of it.
Harry deserves a Wonderland style ending
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83plus
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:40pmGo ahead violate the constitution and the checks and balances. I’m more than ready to yell impeach here.
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Trigus
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:46pm18 USC § 1621 – Perjury generally
Whoever—
(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or
(2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true;
is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States.
Oath
I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.
5 U.S.C. §3331
WarMunger_Al
Jan. 11, 2013 at 8:45pmproblem is, the wuss republicans have uttered not a word. They have more than enough examples of abuse and overstepping of authority to initiate impeachment. Libya should have been the nail in the coffin, but they let that be covered up as well. They must be co-conspirators, that is the only rational explanation. They went after Clinton for a minor issue compared to what Obama has done.
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DoOrDie
Jan. 11, 2013 at 9:58pmWar, it’s a lost cause Republicans starting impeachment process, the senate would throw it right out. They probably should at least try so they can show the American citizens that they do care about the rule of law.
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nocalifornia
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:40pmLock and Load folks!
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gbgreta
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:40pmThese Dems are taking the jack-boot thing to heart, ain’t they?
Too bad we can’t trust POTUS to stand up for the Constitution anymore. Doesn’t leave a lot of options…
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mbean
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:40pmHe lives on the Government tab, so he has no clue about real life. How many real people can continue to live on increasing debt. Sooner or later the money will stop flowing and bankruptcy will become the issue.
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P4cooler
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:39pmHarry Reid needs to pass a budget February 4th. He has blocked every single bill the Republicans presented from the house (something like 37 bills last count). He won’t even take a vote and tells the Senate we our bills were just political gamesmanship. Reid is very ugly & very evil. He serves his antichrist Obama very well.
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Lotus503
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:38pmIf he uses executive decree to raise the debt limit, impeach him! If he uses executive decree to override the 2nd Amendment, IMPEACH HIM!
Contact your senator and congressmen and DEMAND HIS IMPEACHMENT AND REMOVAL IMMEDIATELY!
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oneshiner
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:47pmThen, while we’re at it throw that nancy babe in with him for her part in the horrific things she’s done against the American people (just because she could do it) They’re all in cahoots.
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DougHuffman
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:49pmCOTUS II 4 – “The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors.”
“Mis (prefix) against, opposing & Demeanour: originally from Demean, a later form of Demesne; master, power, domain, owner; and the suffix “our” from cour – course, run. Therefore Misdemeanour means “Against the way the owners or those with power run”.
Good people must be armed with wits and guns and the Truth. MOLON LABE
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Marine25
Jan. 11, 2013 at 7:59pmyet he is legally empowered to do it. Unpopular with the fringe right is not a high crime of any sort.
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barber2
Jan. 12, 2013 at 12:01pmMARINE( wink, wink ) : Find it ironic that you find it so easy to spot and label the ” fringe right,” while you are so oblivious to the actions of the Obama radical Left.
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CatB
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:37pmAnd we the people will support and DEMAND impeachment for all the lawlessness of these thieves.
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Red Meat
Jan. 11, 2013 at 6:05pmYeah right. Who’s going to bring that to the floor? John Boehner? Eric The Joo??
You’re dreaming.
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Walkabout
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:36pmPeople should not be surprised that other people are popping off or spouting off ( Tactical Response CEO), when Reid pulls illegal sh/t like this.
People gets so frustrated when Ried advocates something so blatantly illegal but does it because he can. Then they come up with a BS legalese reason justifying ti so that 1/3rd of the country supports them at the poll, the unwashed undecided not paying attention middle says “I don’t know”. With that reality on the ground, people like Reid dare people to do anything about knowing that if not enough people step forward they can illegally order law enforcement to imprison people for rebelling against illegal laws & actions.
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booger71
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:36pmCan’t Harry, read the 14th Amendment. Good try though.
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bikerdogred1
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:35pmDid Dirty harry take an oath to uphold the constitution enough said.
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83plus
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:41pmI think he merely repeated the words so he can get in.
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oneshiner
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:44pmThis man has helped damage America. Partly because he hasn’t had a budget for years and partly because he’s a duffus, and now he wants to break another law, bypassing Congress. What this man and his cohorts are doing should be impeachable because they aren’t working for the best of the Country, they’re working for the best for themselves. The line is drawn in the sand as far as I’m concerned.
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HigherRoad
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:35pmHarry Reid should be impeached right along with Obama.
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CatB
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:38pmAgree .. and I think they have been given more than enough rope .. you know the rest.
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Red Meat
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:35pmThis is what happens when the opposition party are basically communists as well.
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Psychosis
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:32pmand if he does, impeach him , and arrest reid for violating the constitution ……..repeatedly i might add
the ONLY WAY politicians stop this type of behavior is if a bunch of them suddenly stop being politicians ……………………..as abruptly and publicly as possible
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DougHuffman
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:44pmPsychotic is often characterized as “expecting different effects from the same old same-ol’.”
Like failing to read and understand the Constitution and still expecting the nation to prosper.
Like not reading Georges Santayana. Good people must be armed with wits, guns and the Truth. MOLON LABE
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DougHuffman
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:29pmCorrect, in accordance with the Fourteenth Amendment IIRC
Never miss the opportunity to danse macabre in the blood of a Christian nation.
Good people are armed with wits and guns and the Truth. MOLON LABE
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DougHuffman
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:33pmFourteenth Amendment to The Constitution of the United States -
“Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. …”
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AvengerK
Jan. 11, 2013 at 5:28pmand why not? Reid’s spat on his lawful duties by not allowing a budget to be passed in the senate since April 2009. What’s a few more slaps to the constitution’s face going to do at this point? Obama’s always happy to oblige.
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