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Hundreds of Thousands Converge on Eiffel Tower to Protest Gay Marriage: ‘A Change in Civilization That We Don’t Want’

Jan. 13, 2013 5:20pm Erica Ritz

Hundreds of Thousands Protest Gay Marriage at Eiffel Tower in Paris, France | Hollande

People take part in a protest against same-sex marriage on January 13, 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

(TheBlaze/AP) — Holding aloft ancient flags and young children, hundreds of thousands of people converged Sunday on the Eiffel Tower to protest the French president’s plan to legalize gay marriage and thus allow same-sex couples to adopt and conceive children.

The opposition to President Francois Hollande’s plan has underscored divisions among the secular-but-Catholic French, especially in more traditional rural areas versus urban enclaves. But while polls show the majority of French still support legalizing gay marriage, that backing gets more lukewarm when children come into play.

A person holds a placard reading ‘No to homosexual marriage’ during a protest against same-sex marriage in Paris on January 13, 2013. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

The protest march started at three points across Paris, filling boulevards throughout the city as demonstrators walked six kilometers (3 miles) to the grounds of France’s most recognizable monument. Paris police estimated the crowd at 340,000, making it one of the largest demonstrations in Paris since an education protest in 1984.

“This law is going to lead to a change of civilization that we don’t want,” said Philippe Javaloyes, a literature teacher who bused in with 300 people from Franche Comte in the far east. “We have nothing against different ways of living, but we think that a child must grow up with a mother and a father.”

Veterans stand beside a banner reading in French ‘Without marriage, no more homeland’ as they take part in a protest against same-sex marriage on January 13, 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

Public opposition spearheaded by religious leaders has chipped away at the popularity of Hollande’s plan in recent months. About 52 percent of French favor legalizing gay marriage, according to a survey released Sunday, down from as high as 65 percent in August.

French civil unions, allowed since 1999, are at least as popular among heterosexuals as among gay and lesbian couples. But that law has no provisions for adoption or assisted reproduction, which are at the heart of the latest debate.

A man speaks in a microphone during a march against same-sex marriage on January 13, 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

Hollande’s Socialist Party has sidestepped the debate on assisted reproduction, promising to examine it in March after party members split on including it in the latest proposal. That hasn’t assuaged the concerns of many in Sunday’s protest, however, who fear it’s only a matter of time.

“They’re talking about putting into national identity cards Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3, Parent 4. Mom, dad and the kids are going to be wiped off the map, and that’s going to be bad for any country, any civilization,” said Melissa Michel, a Franco-American mother of five who was among a group from the south of France on a train reserved specifically for the protest.

A woman throws confettis during a protest against same-sex marriage on January 13, 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

Support for gay marriage – and especially adoption by same-sex couples – has been particularly tenuous outside Paris, and people from hundreds of miles from the French capital marched Sunday beneath regional flags with emblems dating back to the Middle Ages, chanting “Daddy, Mommy.”

If the French parliament approves the plan, France would become the 12th country in the world to legalize same-sex marriage, and the biggest so far in terms of economic and diplomatic influence.

People take part in a protest against same-sex marriage on January 13, 2013 in Paris. (Photo: AFP/Getty Images)

Harlem Desir, the leader of Hollande’s Socialist Party, said the protest would not affect the proposal’s progress. The Socialists control Parliament, where the bill is expected to be introduced on Tuesday, with a vote following public debate at the end of January.

“The right to protest is protected in our country, but the Socialists are determined to give the legal right to marry and adopt to all those who love each other,” he said. “This is the first time in decades in our country that the right and the extreme right are coming into the streets together to deny new rights to the French.”

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Comments (207)

Witness1974
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:24pm
I’m in a gay marriage. Sometimes we’re sad, but mostly we are gay. . . Oh, well. That’s different. Never mind.

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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:05pm
  Communist Party USA (Committee’s of Correspondence), set up Mattechine Society founded by Henry Hay to infiltrate culture and make homosexuality normal using Hollywood, media and education. Engineering society including changing the very definition of marriage is blocked by values of a Christian Civilization; Healthy nuclear families prevent the agenda of the left – The left has to destroy the biblical family.
  
  To destroy us the left has to go after the very things our Judeo/Christian culture honors: morality, belief in God, faith, the importance of family, sanctity of life, and sanctity of marriage.
  
  Immorality promoted through schools, sex-ed curriculum paid for by tax dollars would shock most parents. Battle for hearts and minds of children – down in first grade with “Heather has two mommies” and “Daddy’s new roommate” gay pride parade and by 8th grade pass out condoms in school colors because that is so patriotic
  
  Get ahold of child early and you can change his values from his parent’s values and get him to follow you. National Education Association passed resolutions they want children from birth. The Communist manifesto also thought state should take control of children at birth.
  
  This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. I have watched it 12X to absorb all that is in it…give it 5 minutes and you won’t be able to walk away
  Watch it. Share it. Arrange a showing in church,
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:36pm
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  Save America Lynch a Pervert…………..
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:46pm
  good for you witness1974…
  
  While the whole concept of homosexuality pretty much baffles me, and i’m vehemently opposed to ALL State-Sanctioned marriages of any sort, i’ve never been able to figure out why anyone gives a crap about what others do to make themselves happy- as long as it doesn’t interfere with their ability to make themselves happy.
  
  I hope you’re sadness is not, as it so often is for many, a symptom of your commitment.
  I hope you find happiness. Peace.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:08pm
  Why lynch anyone?
  
  Simple make sure that all the members in your congregation have valid wills that say what happens to children in case of premature death. If a court invalidates a will & gives children to a gay couple against the stated wishes inn a will, then go after them hammer & tongs.
  
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- Shamrock241
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:09pm
  @Eastinfection So now we know you do not have a problem with gay marriage but tell me what do you think God would say East, do you think he might say to Adam hey!! look at frank over there Adam Yummy!!! You have to go get you some of that or maybe to Eve Oh!!! Girlfriend would you checkout Kathy you know she’s been workin those bunns of steal. I do not know if you consider yourself a Conservative, but if you do let’s try and have some standards PLEASE.
  
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- Witness1974
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:14pm
  Sorry folks, but you really must read more closely. The comment above was, apparently, a poor attempt at humor. I’ve been in a hetorsexual marriage for 40 years. Just because the homosexuals have hijacked the word “gay.” Doesn’t mean heterosexuals can’t be from time to time, gay.
  
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- tgimacb
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:15pm
  Who cares? LGBT are 2% or world’s population. You’re just louder, jut like any other deviant. The 98% are trying to be “tolerant” and you are free to do as you wish, but really, you’re out to change people’s minds with atrocious behaviors? Mommy, Daddy, kiddies. That’s how it worked for your parents.
  
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- Stelex
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:24pm
  I got it and loved it Witness. Personally I think it should be a states issue. Let God sort it out if he so desires. Again I’m agnostic. But according to most its up to God to judge, not man. Just sayin. Worry about your own relationship with God and let the gays worry about theirs. Unless you don’t trust God to sort it all out and maybe you know better?
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:37pm
  Hi East,
  
  I think you need to read that post over again. : )
  
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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:46pm
  boy…….do i miss mayberry -my 3 sons-the lucy show-dick van ****……and ed sullivan…………great shows and no sex -violance- or gay’s
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:11pm
  Wow I’m beyond shocked that any country in Europe feels this way and especially France – the hedonism capital(Ok along with Brazil, but aside from that…) There may be hope yet for the world!
  And for you fools who have not a clue -WITNESS was J-O-K-I-N-G!! Try strapping on a sense of humor from time to time – might feel good LOL!
  
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- Kumo
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:23pm
  @WITNESS1974 – Good point. At one time “gay” was synonymous with happy and it was used to describe a decade.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_Nineties
  
  gay (the original definition, before it was corrupted) – having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music. Synonyms: cheerful, gleeful, happy, glad, cheery, lighthearted, joyous, joyful, jovial; sunny, lively, vivacious, sparkling; chipper, playful, jaunty, sprightly, blithe. Antonyms: serious, grave, solemn, joyless; staid, sedate; unhappy, morose, grim; sad, depressed, melancholy.
  
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- Thatsitivehadenough
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:28pm
  Thank God! The French are finally waking up and doing something to actually stop the spread of leftist ideology. ‘Gay marriage’ is a PERVERSION OF OUR CULTURE AND CULTURAL HERITAGE. Make no mistake. This is ABSOLUTELY part of the communist agenda to bring down the entire society.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:30pm
  @oldguy49 I’m a young fellow, and I enjoy those shows. I don’t watch TV anymore, but when I did, or on certain occasions when I do, I only watch such shows. Thank God for TV Land and other channels that show Gunsmoke, the Virginian, Roy Rogers, Bonanza, etc. Those shows may have had violence but it did not promote it, take it lightly, or showcase it without some moral or educational purpose. They were entertaining but honest and moral. I also enjoy movies with John Wayne, Gary Cooper, Dean Martin, etc. I’m 25 years old, but I know good, decent Entertainment when I see it. This nation has gone down the toilet with all this modern filthy, degenerate, and deceptive mockery and entertainment of sin, evil and wrong. Hollywood, the music industry and the rest of the media giants have taken control over the influence of our children and introduced them to the extremes of promiscuity, perverseness, darkness, idleness, vanity, and ignorance.
  
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- jteagle
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:31pm
  When we lynch perverts can we start with Catholic priests?
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:51pm
  @jteagle Most priests that molest children molest young boys. These despicable male priests are homosexuals. It would be better for him that “a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea”. Maybe we should start hanging such men?
  
  “The time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear? Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator… Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
  
  “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)”
  
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- jteagle
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 10:16pm
  valiant1776. I couldn’t care less what 2 (or 3,4,5,etc.) consenting adults do with each other. On the other hand, when priests abuse children, then it would be ok with me to hang them. To equate homosexuality with pedophilia is simply ignorant. If we’re going to live our lives based on a fairy tale, why the bible? How about we choose snow white instead? I’ll be sneezy. Sounds like you want to be dopey.
  
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- SovereignSoul
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 10:47pm
  Couldn’t the whole problem be solved if heterosexual people would just stop giving birth to homosexuals?
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 11:33pm
  @jteagle You miss the whole argument. Do you really think anyone really cares what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home? I sure as hell don’t. The problem is the radical leftist agenda that wants to force the public through the use of public law to accept and tolerate homosexual perverts to infiltrate the institution of marriage. If homosexuals really did want to do whatever they wanted in private then why the need to be obnoxious and have naked men run around in public streets showing pride in sticking their you know what in other men’s you know what? Like you said, I couldn’t care less, so, why the need to have these intrusive, immoral, obnoxious, filthy ‘gay pride parades’ on public streets in the middle of the day where everyone, including children, can see their degenerate lifestyles on display? As for priests that molest children? Bring on the death penalty. Unfortunately, the left and their liberal idiots have pretty much eliminated in real form of Justice. Most offenders are let go by liberal judges just to repeat the same offenses again, all in the name of ‘maybe they’ll be good one day’ BS. I did not equate homosexuality with pedophilia, but just pointed out that most priests that molest children molest mostly young boys, not other young girls or the church janitor. That’s a fact. These priests act on ‘homosexual’ and pedophilia tendencies. Now, if you want to live in Lala land and ignore these facts, you’re an idiot.
  
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- jteagle
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:24am
  Valiant1776. So now I’m an idiot? Name calling doesn’t seem like a very Christian thing to do. What would your boy Jesus think about that?
  
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- john141714
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:58am
  The left want to be so much more like the french what will they say about this?
  
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- begreen
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 1:15am
  Homosexuals fail to understand that there is no biological or genetic proof that they wer born that way!
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 3:35am
  @jteagle
  
  “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?” – Jesus
  
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- Eastinfection
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 8:29am
  SHAMROCK..
  
  if you actually read what i wrote you’d comprehend that i am against ALL state-sanctioned marriage.
  You want to get married? Join a church.
  If that church gives homosexuals an opportunity to marry- that’s their business.
  
  As far as government intervention in marriage goes, they have no right to interfere either way.
  They can sanction unions- both gay and straight- via civil unions for legal and tax purposes.
  if they grant these benefits to one, they should grant them to the other, but they shouldn’t be called marriages. Marriage is a religious sacrament. Religions can interpret that sacrament as they see fit.
  
  Am i a Conservative? Yes i am. I am a Conservative defender of the Constitution. In case you hadn’t noticed, though, the Constitution is a pretty Liberal do<ument.
  
  PS: Monk… lol.. the sarcasm of the original post went way over my head. …the shame … the shame!
  
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- Gorp
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 8:46am
  I guess France is just like here. Our government doesn’t listen to, or give a $**** about WE the people either.
  
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- CABERNETQHS
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 9:08am
  Some of the people on the blaze are QUEER. Another word that once meant something innocent. On the other hand, it’s ok to be different, but don’t expect everyone to accept your alternative lifestyle!
  Glad to see some French are spontaneously growing a spine.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 10:57am
  @jteagle
  “When we lynch perverts can we start with Catholic priests?”
  
  My friend you seem to be a victim of anti-christian propaganda. Among all the professions that work with minors catholic priests have the lowest rate of abuse. This is an statistical fact! Of course the liberal and anti-christian media will report when a priest is accused of it, but it won’t mention the hundreds of thousands of actual rapes committed by atheist gay teachers.
  
  You want to lynch catholic priests while in this moment, millions of them, and this for the last 20 centuries, are building hospitals, churches, teaching the children, feeding the poor, consoling the afflicted.
  
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- Quiata
  Posted on January 15, 2013 at 6:52am
  @YAHSHUARULES Tomas Schuman (aka Yuri Bezmenov), former KGB agent, describes subversion and psychological warfare. We are losing. Must see. (Long, but worth it) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY&feature=related
  
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PAUL GULLO
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:22pm
Wow that’s really nice to see. Gay people are a plague on society. No matter what level of success they archive.

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- RDavis49
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:40pm
  It’s the homosexuality that is a plague on society. Even animals can achieve a certain level of success in this world, so that doesn’t play into this argument. Homosexuality is Un-Natural, Un-Healthy, Un-Godly, Un-Acceptable and disgusting behavior before God and man. It’s pure perverson of the mind and body for two of the same sex people to lust after each other. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out, use your common sense, if you have any ….
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:07pm
  So are bigots like you
  
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- HappyConservative
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:34pm
  If someone wants to be a homosexual, fine. But I don’t want to hear about what you do in your bed. Seriously. And I CERTAINLY don’t want to see gay marriage legalized. Civil unions, maybe – that’s as far as I am willing to take it. But marriage is only supposed to be between a man and a woman. I’m so sick of the liberals constant whining between GAY and GUNS – makes my head explode!!!
  
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dumpsterdog
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:15pm
Why haven’t they ripped off their shirts and gone nude like the wacko gays do for the Pope?
There sure is a difference between gays and normal people.

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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:11pm
  Communist Party USA (Committee’s of Correspondence), set up Mattechine Society founded by Henry Hay to infiltrate culture and make homosexuality normal using Hollywood, media and education. Engineering society including changing the very definition of marriage is blocked by values of a Christian Civilization; Healthy nuclear families prevent the agenda of the left – The left has to destroy the biblical family.
  
  Relentless effort since 1883 regardless of who has been in office to change this culture and country in a way that it can never be changed back again
  
  Through political correctness and dumbing down causing us to lose our ability to call evil evil and stand against it.
  
  The real agenda is the compromising of those who find this abhorrent. Force those with morals and ethics and biblical values to compromise – corrupt them. This is not about tolerance. But destroying what is moral and decent, anything goes so sodomites can live in whatever filth and perversion and claim this lifestyle is natural, god made that way. That’s the real agenda to corrupt those that want to live holy lives, clean lives, pure lives.
  . The Ideas that made America great and unique came straight out of the bible.
  Founders understood this principle and so do our enemies.
  “Our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other” John Adams
  Free on line: Agenda: Grinding America Down
  https://vimeo.com/52009124
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:48am
  There are idiots on both sides of this issue…sadly, I’m starting to think it’s not as prevalent on the gay rights side. So long as it doesn’t break my bones nor pick my pocket, what business is it of anyone? Get Government out of marriage altogether and let people live how they want.
  
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13a
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:11pm
Why all of the negative comments on this story? 340,000 is a large number of people even if they are the minority. I think it’s such a good thing to see that there are people in other countries throughout the world that are against gay marriage!! Put politics aside and enjoy this moment because there really are so many good people still left in this world!!!!!!

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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:17pm
  Amen. I was glad to see such a showing for the support of marriage in France.
  
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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:37pm
  Let them show their support for traditional marriages, we should be doing the same here in the states as well.
  
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- grimmster
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:06pm
  @13a.
  Its all about politics,and in this country, tax breaks.And by the way,its the “gays” that make it political.
  
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- wzanesdad
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:17pm
  I’m starting to like the french more and more each day. They’re bombing the islamists, protesting the gays…what’s next? good for them.
  
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milo75
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:06pm
It just makes my skin shiver that people allowed it to get this far! Not one animal on this planet does such disgusting acts. Only people would allow themselves to go against nature and say its ok. They can do what they want but i have a big problem with people telling me and my kids this is acceptable way to live. Im homophobic and pedophilephobic and transgenderphobic…… I’m phobic with everything thats just plain and simply wrong! Just go watch one of their disgusting parades and say to yourself is this healthy in a moral society. Elvis couldn’t even shake his hips on tv 30 years ago. Look where we are today.

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- stiffingtheworkingclass
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:11pm
  Liberal politicians are vote whores. If they smell a big enough voting block in it, they’ll support it.
  
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- vox_populi
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:15pm
  “Not one animal on this planet does such disgusting acts.”
  
  Ooo, close guess, but you were off by about 1,500.
  
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
  
  Homosexuality is relatively common among many social animals. Humans are a social animal. It’s not surprising, really, that homosexuality is naturally present among humans.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:24pm
  @vox_populi BS. We don’t base man made Governments and laws on animal behaviors, but on the natural state and condition of man. We don’t have a right to travel because we have strong, long legs and can run miles without end. Men may act like animals at times, but they are not animals. They are accountable and responsible for their actions.
  
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- 13a
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:26pm
  Yes, it happens in the animal kingdom but why would anyone make animals their mentors? And humans are unique because we are the only animal that is self aware. And because we are self aware we hold ourselves to that higher standard. This isn’t rocket surgery! :)
  
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- catty
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:39pm
  You must not be able to leave the house in this century.
  
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- GardenoftheGods
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:14pm
  Great point about Elvis & how far our society has fallen…I am so ashamed of what we’ve allowed the Left to get away with. We need to take a number of lessons from France. It’s a democratic Republic, as are we, it’s now drowning in Socialism, as are we, and it is finally learning that you can’t allow the Left to control the conversation because they are godless, environmental whackos, drug loving hippies who want to see the destruction of decent society. Oh how far we have fallen…
  
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- vox_populi
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:16pm
  @VALIANT1776
  “We don’t base man made Governments and laws on animal behaviors,”
  
  Of course not.
  
  “but on the natural state and condition of man.”
  
  …and many men and women are naturally gay. I’m confused as to where the problem is?
  
  @13A
  “Yes, it happens in the animal kingdom but why would anyone make animals their mentors?”
  
  I wasn’t arguing it should be legal because animals do it; I agree that that’s a silly premise. I argue it should be legal because it is a situation dealt with entirely between two consenting adults with no external harm to third parties. If you oppose same-sex marriages, don’t have one. If you oppose interracial marriages, don’t have one. If you oppose guns, don’t own one. If you oppose 16-oz soft drinks, don’t drink one. But do not legislate away the personal choices of others without cause.
  
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- YAHSHUARULES
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:19pm
  You are not phobic – that is fear of something. Nothing to fear here – just revulsion and disgust at it – I am not afraid of such filth just abhorred by it.
  
  Left pushes limits as hard and far as they can: Protect any deviant, pornographer, any negative cultural force in their effort to destroy the patriarchal society in favor or a matriarchal society –
  Frankfurt School promoted Feminism of today remove patriarchal society for matriarchal society. Remove father as priest of his home – loving provider, discipliner, discipler, leader of his home where you instill virtues, integrity, modesty – broken down on purpose because if you destroy the family they could destroy a nation, because instead of having a father to lead the government steps in as the “nanny state.”
  
  Frankfurt School developed concept of cultural Marxism. Changing the entire world view of Americans by what they call “Political Correctness” is actually Cultural Marxism. Destroy biblical Christianity – create chaos then move to ultimate goal from cultural Marxism to traditional Marxism – socialism
  EDUCATION AND MEDIA: MULTI-CULTURALISM, SOCIAL JUSTICE, DIVERSITY, MORAL RELATIVISM, POLITICAL CORRECTNESS = CULTURAL MARXISM
  
  This is the most comprehensive, best movie I have seen pulling all this together. I have watched it 12X to absorb all that is in it…give it 5 minutes and you won’t be able to walk away
  Watch it. Share it.
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- Baerlin
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:32pm
  Hey Vox. Men are not animal. We are created in the image of God and therefore thinking and reasoning being. Do we sin and err in our ways? Yes! But we also are able to forgive and show compassion. These things are not anywhere else in the animal kingdom
  
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- Shamrock241
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:56pm
  @VOX_Populi You said: But do not legislate away the personal choices of others without cause.
  
  Well please do not change our country and many other countries tradition of marriage between a Man and a Woman. I think most people do not oppose gays having a legal union but leave our religous ceremonys out of your life stye.
  
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- Elena2010
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:16pm
  Vox — a dog humping another dog is not homx $ex, it’s dominance. Male animals use this behavior to make sure that the other males remain subservient.
  
  With a rare exception (bonobos, dolphins), sex in the animal kingdom is about procreation only. Humans, bonobos, and dolphins use it for fun.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:18pm
  vox_populi
  Ooo, close guess, but you were off by about 1,500.
  ***
  How many are confused?
  
  I have seen reports were lizards were considered confused. Male lizards of one species thought males of a another species were female because they had the same coloration as the females of the 1st species.
  
  There have also been reports where a male – male paring of ducks was broken up when the male partner of a female – male pairing died.
  
  What does that tell you?
  
  It does not tell VOX a whole lot, because he is infected with liberal memes.
  
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  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:46pm
  @vox_populi
  
  “And many men and women are naturally gay. I’m confused as to where the problem is?”
  
  It does not matter whether one is “born” with it or not. There are people who are born with hot tempers, others with a desire to overeat much, others to lust over every pretty women, others to lie, others to take what does not belong to them, others to angrily yell and scream without reason, others with selfish attitudes, others with greediness, others to have no patience, others to lust over children, and a host of other behaviors. Homosexuality is not natural, but an abnormal human behavior. Marriage is not based on a sexual behavior. Sodomites want to force the public through Law to accept their perverted sexual acts and sexual lifestyles as some functional, normal and productive ‘union’ which can constitute ‘marriage’. I know of no ‘heterosexual’ who honors marriage by having parades in public streets declaring he’s proud he gets head or anal from his wife, nor of any who go out half naked into the streets to provoke the public and promote promiscuity. Such things are seen as degenerate and immoral by society, and are rightly condemned, not favored and unwanted, but somehow sodomites have a free pass? When ‘heterosexuals’ act like drunkards, and womanizers, we as a society expect some kind of accountability and hope that virtue prevails, but somehow sodomites get exclusive rights to act how ever they want without repercussions?
  
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- itchytriggerfinger
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 11:19pm
  @ vox_populi
  
  “But do not legislate away the personal choices of others without cause”. That’s relativism.
  
  NEWS FLASH……… Moral principles do not depend on a majority vote. Wrong is wrong, even if everybody is wrong. Right is right, even if nobody is right.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 1:59pm
  Actually, many animals have homosexual sex in nature…perhaps you should learn more…
  
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TIMEBOMB
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:04pm
This story is very confusing,so many French oppose gay marriage yet their military is filled with gays.
As your gay Marxist ruler I’m working hard to turn our military into a bunch of panty wearing gays to demoralize them and make it easier for my friends in the MB to defeat them.

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Steel
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:04pm
From the people who invented “head” and “face”, this story is a joke! The French think nothing of making love with their faces. It is said they don’t care what they do as long as they pronounce it correctly. So what’s the big deal?

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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:39am
  So why are there 2,000 year old greek names for it?
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:36am
  Steel, you really have no grasp of history, do you?
  
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Smokey_Bojangles
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:03pm
I don’t get it.They voted for Communism,high taxes,socialism,a police state and gay marriage just like America did. Why are they complaining? It is not like the French are being ordered to buy more soap….

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truemedia
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:01pm
Viva la france

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SPOT_OF_TEA
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:01pm
What you see here in these pictures is what Colin Powell would call a dark vein of intolerance…..Just curious…if someone is intolerant toward intolerant people does that make you intolerant also?

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- Melvin Spittle
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:05pm
  Not until you become intolerant of those that are intolerant of those that are intolerant of intolerant people.
  
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EllieR
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:54pm
“The right and the extreme right are coming into the streets to deny new rights to the French.”

First, there are no “the right and the extreme right” in Eurabia, only the left and the extreme left.
Second, too late, Frenchies, when you voted for the commies, what did you expect? I mean, beside your new 99.99999% income tax for the “rich.”

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John 1776
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:53pm
It’s so simple- You have a
“Union” — The legal part
and a
“Marriage” — The religious part
Anybody can form a “Union” that carries the legal ramification. But you have to go through the Religious part if you want a “Marriage.” The church should have nothing to say about the legal union part, and the government should have noting to say about the religious marriage part.
Problem solved!

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- DagneyT
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:18pm
  Yes, it’s that simple, but the left doesn’t like simple, i.e., logical. Logic, common sense & reasonable are long since gone in the world or the left agenda. The rest of us need to hold fast to our sanity in order to sustain ourselves until we can turn around our education system, and out-vote the mindless kool-aid drinkers.
  
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- RDavis49
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:19pm
  What about what God has to say about both parts? Who’s law do you think is supreme? What is makes more comon sense, Adam and Eve or Adam and Steve? Nobody ever said the homosexuals can’t go around molesting each other’s genitals. The ONLY issue here is that the homosexuals want legal rights so they can have the government financial benefits that are afforded traditional God sanctioned, NATURAL marriage between one man and one woman. They want adoption rights so they can pervert the children to become gay as well. Their intentions and desires are all perfectly clear as a bell if people will just open their eyes and look at it. Why is this even being given consideration by anyone with a brain.
  
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HOOT_OWL
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:51pm
Hey France, You gave into every whim of the world and now your trying to turn the tide , now that the ones with morals are in the minority.

Sorry Too Little Too Late..!

On a side note though ….These French ARE schooling us American “on how to take a stand“. It’s a shame people like GB doesn’t have ‘courage’ to organize a mass demonstration like this ,but that would take true morals against the evil of today and conviction to stand against the current political winds. I guess there’s No money in that. We need a theme park to forget about the hell hole we allowed to be created.

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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:59pm
  You’re right. Our society has lost its backbone. We might ‘offend’ someone, they say. We today would rather ignore the God of the Universe and not offend earthly men.
  
  Hopefully we’ll see lots of people attend the March for Life in DC this coming January 25.
  
  http://www.marchforlife.org/
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:06pm
  How the hell does gay marriage affect you at all? There are gay people today, there will always be gay people, why does allowing them to be happy and get married affect you negatively at all?
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:43pm
  @Freedomlover_US
  
  ‘Homosexual’ marriage affects me, my future children and the society I live in very much. Just as fornication, adultery, incest, drunkenness, greediness, and a host of other things would too. Marriage is the foundation of every society. If the family goes down, so does society. I’ll grant you this, marriage has not and is not being corrupted by sodomites, but by married men who go about with other women, or men who don’t have the courage to propose to one woman and be responsible for her and their kids, or men who treat women like objects and without respect or honor. We as a society, church and nation for too long have accepted marriage to be denigrated by the acts of straight men, whether they be pathetic husbands, media celebrities, politicians, or rebellious college kids. We as a nation have been duped and must start reforming our own lives first before we start reforming that of others. We as a nation must take a good look in the mirror. The problem is not exclusively ‘homosexual’ marriage, but the fact that we have allowed our society and culture to denigrate to such a low moral level that today we’re arguing not on how should we improve the lives of our children to be better citizens but which perverted acts and lifestyles should we tolerate and accept. The whole state of our nation is loathsome.
  
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- begreen
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 1:29am
  Fool it’s not gay it’s Homosexual call it what it is. And yes it does effect society by weakening it big time.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 8:20pm
  How? How does homosexual marriage negatively affect society at all? Why does the entire country have to live by your set of “morals”?
  
  Go ahead and feel however you want, but the country is passing you by…
  
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45Cal
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:49pm
OT I’ve been trying to respond to a thread that is no longer on the main page and can’t. When it falls off the main page are comments closed for that thread?

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- DEFCON4
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:56pm
  @45Cal, Sroll, down to the bottom of the page and click-on older stories,
  until you find your desired thread.
  
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- 45Cal
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:04pm
  Thanks but that didn’t work either. The article I wanted to respond to was on the right under faith/religion and that doesn’t change when you go back.
  
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:43pm
It’s good to see that people are voicing opposition to these perverted lifestyles that degrade human dignity and mess up childhood. How many more perverts can the moral fabric stand to bare?

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- encinom
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:50pm
  How many more bible clutching, religous bigtots most we bare? The parade of Bigots was little more then the last gasp of a dying religion’s strangle hold on a free people.
  
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- Elena2010
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:56pm
  Enc — only 4 percent of French participate in church other than the basic rites: baptism, marriage, burial.
  
  The French are only exceeded in secularism by the Czechs. They are anything but Bible based.
  
  So if the French “get it,” why can’t our gov’t hear us when we shout “NO!”
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:46pm
  ENCIN: “Bible clutching..religious bigots..outdated book of fairy tales..French Klan’s rally.” What a joke you are when you complain about BIGOTRY ! Encinom is the poster child for radical, secular bigotry and the 99% hypocrisy of the Obama crowd .
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:27pm
  Encinom
  “little more then the last gasp of a dying religion’s strangle hold on a free people”
  
  If conservative Christians,& Jews have more kids than liberal and if Muslims have more kids than all the above, who is breathing their last dying gasp?.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:16am
  Walkabout: Ever see the movie Idiocracy? That’s what we’ll have if you out breed those that believe in personal freedom. What right do you have to force your beliefs on others? We are not a theocracy.
  
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honeydijon13
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:42pm
One guy said: “A child should always grow up with a mother anda father”.
I say: “Tell that to the bastards of your mistresses”.
And outlaw divorce.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:36pm
  To me having a mistress is damn near polygamy and polygamy is bad.
  
  If you financially support your mistress, it is prosecuted. If you don’t support your kid, you are prosecuted. Moral of the story is don;t mess around outside of marriage. Society does not like that.
  
  Who made divorce easy? The Church? Or liberal?
  
  Whatever 13 go back to sleep. Wait you can’t; you were never awake.
  
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h20sue
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:42pm
I wish someone would protest in the USA! We’re so tired of this mess, and it’s Biblically WRONG!

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- encinom
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:52pm
  Your bible has nothing to do with our secular laws. Its your choice to follow an outdated book of fairy tales, you have no right to impose your religious dogma on the nation or its citizens.
  
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- IMCHRISTIAN
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:10pm
  I will take Gods word over all so I guess we all will eventually find out what He knows to be good and what is evil. Life is short eternity is forever.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:15pm
  @encimoron The concept of a union between male and female is not exclusively biblical, it is a natural course governed by natural laws. Put away your silly arguments already.
  
  “The law… dictated by God Himself is, of course, superior in obligation to any other. It is binding over all the globe, in all countries, and at all times. No human laws are of any validity if contrary to this.” Alexander Hamilton. Feb 23, 1775
  
  The institution of marriage was not created by Government or man. No man can change it or have exclusive right to govern it, since he is not the Creator of man, nor the Judge of this World.
  
  “All (laws), however, may be arranged in two different classes. 1) Divine. 2) Human… But it should always be remembered that this law, natural or revealed, made for men or for nations, flows from the same Divine source: it is the law of God… Human law must rest its authority ultimately upon the authority of that law which is Divine.” James Wilson 1804, (Signer both the Declaration of Independence & the Constitution, and a U.S. Supreme Court Justice)
  
  Please shut up already with your ridiculous claims repeated from the rear end of the ACLU, which is a closet Communist organization. I’ve had enough of these radical ideas you leftist idiots spout advocating we fundamentally change and transform our Government from a Constitutional Republican one to an evolutionary Marxist one.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:30pm
  encinom
  “Your bible has nothing to do with our secular laws”
  
  The people that founded the country were for the most part religious people & religion informed their morality. That morality was codified into our nations laws. Therefore our laws are based on the Christian religion.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 9:08pm
  More so-called “Patriots” using Barton’s cherry picked quotes to justify destroying the Constitution and replacing it with a theocracy.
  
  God is not found in the Constitution.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 10:02pm
  @encinom You f’n moron. So how about you try to use your tiny little Marxist brain to try to repudiate what I’ve posted if its so obviously false? Tell me, who was wrong? Hamilton or Wilson? How did I misquote them? And do stay within context? Tell me how the passage I quoted was misquoted. Don’t show me what he said to his grandmother ten years later. Tell me which part that I quoted is false.
  
  Tell me, did Jefferson want us Americans to live in a theocracy when he wrote “all men are created equal”? Stop lumping any mention of the word God into “theocracy”. If such where the case, then President Washington made himself a high Priest when he took his Oath on the Holy Bible.
  
  The Constitution says “Blessing of Liberty” which meant Rights endowed to us by our Creator, not rights given to us by the Constitution or other men.
  
  BTW, liberal democracy, secular, or atheism is nowhere found in the Constitution. So stop promoting such foolishness.
  
  But I did find “Republican Form of Government”, and “In the Year of Our Lord”.
  
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- encinom
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 11:30pm
  @valiant1776 The Constitution removes the influence of religion on the government (prohibition of religious tests). As for your quotes little more than cherry picking history to justify your hatred for the secular nation the founders left us. Like Founders like Benjamin Franklin said “Lighthouses are more helpful than churches.”
  
  Or, Thomas Paine “whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half of the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind.”
  
  Than there is James Madison “The purpose of separation of church and state is to keep forever from these shores the ceaseless strife that has soaked the soil of Europe in blood for centuries.”
  
  1776, Barton is a liar and you are fool for falling for his and Becks lies about American History. We are a Secular Nation with no place for the bible based bigotry.
  
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  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:06am
  Joseph continues, “The real object of the amendment was, not to countenance, much less to advance Mahometanism, or Judaism, or infidelity, by prostrating Christianity; but to exclude all rivalry among Christian sects, and to prevent any national ecclesiastical establishment, which should give to an hierarchy the exclusive patronage of the national government. It thus cut off the means of religious persecution, (the vice and pest of former ages,) and of the subversion of the rights of conscience in matters of religion, which had been trampled upon almost from the days of the Apostles to the present age.”
  
  Madison was against real laws governing real ecclesiastical matters, not made up nonsense by liberals. Madison said in one instance opposing such a bill, “The bill enacts into and establishes by law sundry rules and proceedings relative purely to the organization and policy of the church incorporated, and comprehending even the election and removal of the minister of the same, so that no change could be made therein by the particular society or by the general church of which it is a member, and whose authority it recognizes.”
  
  If Madison truly wanted religion, or morality, in general completely out of all Government, than he would not have taken his Oath on the Holy Bible. All of our founders believed they were accountable to the Creator of the universe.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:08am
  In the name of not “cherry picking” any quote. I’ll post the full Proclamation which President James Madison, the father of the Constitution, made to the American public:
  
  “A PROCLAMATION by the President of the United States of America:
  
  The two Houses of the National Legislature having by a joint resolution expressed their desire that in the present time of public calamity and war a day may be recommended to be observed by the people of the United States as a day of public humiliation and fasting and of prayer to Almighty God for the safety and welfare of these States, His blessing on their arms, and a speedy restoration of peace, I have deemed it proper by this proclamation to recommend that Thursday, the 12th of January next, be set apart as a day on which all may have an opportunity of voluntarily offering at the same time in their respective religious assemblies their humble adoration to the Great Sovereign of the Universe, of confessing their sins and transgressions, and of strengthening their vows of repentance and amendment.
  
  They will be invited by the same solemn occasion to call to mind the distinguished favors conferred on the American people in the general health which has been enjoyed, in the abundant fruits of the season, in the progress of the arts instrumental to their comfort, their prosperity, and their security…
  
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  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 12:12am
  …and in the victories which have so powerfully contributed to the defense and protection of our country, a devout thankfulness for all which ought to be mingled with their supplications to the Beneficent Parent of the Human Race that He would be graciously pleased to pardon all their offenses against Him; to support and animate them in the discharge of their respective duties; to continue to them the precious advantages flowing from political institutions so auspicious to their safety against dangers from abroad, to their tranquility at home, and to their liberties, civil and religious; and that He would in a special manner preside over the nation in its public councils and constituted authorities, giving wisdom to its measures and success to its arms in maintaining its rights and in overcoming all hostile designs and attempts against it; and, finally, that by inspiring the enemy with dispositions favorable to a just and reasonable peace its blessings may be speedily and happily restores.
  
  Given at the city of Washington, the 16th day of November, 1814, and of the Independence of the United States the thirty-eighth.
  
  JAMES MADISON”
  
  At last, Madison was against ecclesiastical establishments, constituted and administered by Government, and not against God, religion in general, or universal morality.
  
  Keep your foolish leftist ideology where it belongs. You don’t know squat.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:12am
  And we don’t live in a Theocracy. We have freedom of religion and from religion. We are not ruled by majority…we protect the rights of the minority. Gay marriage should either be legalized, or Government should get out of marriage altogether and leave it to individual churches and have no legal benefit for it at all.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:32am
  So is wearing blended fibers, planting two different types of seed in the same field and numerous other foolish rules as outlined in that exact same section of the bible…so, you should be stoned to death if you wear a polyester/cotton blend. More than likely you are. So, when should people come by to help you out with that?
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 11:30pm
  @Jadedfate You don’t know much about the bible. There is no punishment for those who wear mixed fibers. It is more of a principle as to how we should live our lives. Jesus explained that in the NT. You liberals are ignorant and sadly misinformed.
  
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Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:38pm
This liberal onslaught against moral values won’t stop until we get more demonstrations like this one, when the majority band together and say “ENOUGH”, the left won’t stop.

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- encinom
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:48pm
  Basically, that was a French Klans’ rally sans the white sheets. Nothing more than a parade of religion and ignorance in defense of bigotry.
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:36pm
  Encinom: Shhhhhhhhhh.
  
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- IMCHRISTIAN
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:41pm
  We could probably eat with our foot too but that doesn’t mean it is natural. I am sure you could be infatuated with anything if you spent that much time with a person but that doesn’t make it natural. God loves ALL his children (includes adults) as we all should but just as a mother and father should do, He will punish the child if he does wrong, God Bless.
  
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honeydijon13
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:38pm
The French have ALWAYS been Europe’s phoniest liberals and SOLDIERS.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 8:20pm
  Obviously, you do not know much about soldiers or history.
  
  But you do know your cliches.
  
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gyro
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:33pm
first of all this topic needs topless girls protesting the pope
second they are french
third they are french
fourth read 1-3 over
:)

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jungle J
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:31pm
so many white faces.

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:44pm
  Point?
  
  What I want to know is why is this happening in France and not here?
  Have we really reached the level that the FRENCH have more spine than Americans?
  Wow.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:31pm
  What’s your point?
  
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- Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:50pm
  I thought the same thing when I seen a Japanese demonstration, so many asians.
  
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tonypro
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:30pm
“The opposition to President Francois Hollande’s plan has underscored divisions”

Him and ocommie are acting out of the same demonic book.

You know…….the divide and concur idealism.
Let’s also not forget the tax them into oblivion concept.

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jungle J
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:29pm
I am going to have to quit cappin on the people that brought us the surrender flag…just kidding….even they know.

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vox_populi
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:27pm
Reactionaries wherever you go. History will march forward without them.

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- Melvin Spittle
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:02pm
  Voice of the people? This is the root of your delusion: you think you speak for be populace and that your views are held by the majority. Arrogant, narcissitic, and so delusional.
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:00pm
  VOX: Just like Lenin marched ” forward!” That worked out just swell…..read history much ?!
  
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Small World
Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:27pm
Marriage one man one women end of story.

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- gyro
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 5:34pm
  this works realy good 99.999% o
  
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- stiffingtheworkingclass
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 6:04pm
  The problem with your point, small world, is the Libs can’t build up a new voting block with that philosophy.
  
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- AUsername
  Posted on January 13, 2013 at 7:54pm
  if they would shave there would be less homosexuality in France.
  
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- Jadedfate
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:08am
  Says a fairy tale book that not everyone believes in. Sorry, but keep your religion to yourself. You have no right to force your beliefs on others.
  
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- TheGrtDcptn
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 11:09am
  ‘Says a fairy tale book that not everyone believes in.’
  
  Proverbs 1:32 ‘For simpletons turn away from me-to death. Fools are destroyed by their own complacency.’
  
  ‘Sorry, but keep your religion to yourself.’
  
  Sorry, but keep your immorality (sin) to yourself…
  
  ‘You have no right to force your beliefs on others.’
  
  You have no right to force your deviant behavior (sin) on others…
  
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