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Gun Laws May Soon Be Even Tighter in New York — Get the Details on State’s ‘Tentative’ Gun Control Deal

Jan. 14, 2013 5:00pm Jason Howerton

Get the Details on New Yorks Tentative Gun Control Deal

NEW YORK, NY – OCTOBER 12: New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (LEFT) walks around a table of illegal firearms sold to undercover officers in a large weapons bust in East Harlem at the start of a press conference on October 12, 2012 in New York City. NYPD detectives arrested 13 suspects for the illegal sale of 129 guns mostly purchased from gun dealers and pawn shops in South Carolina. Credit: Getty Images

ALBANY, N.Y. (TheBlaze/AP) — A key New York Senate leader said he expects the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation’s first gun control measure following last month’s Connecticut school shooting.

“I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today,” Sen. Jeffrey Klein told reporters Monday morning. “I’m very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly.”

People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.

The tentative agreement would further restrict New York’s ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.

A Cuomo administration official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final, said there was no agreement yet.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo delivers his third State of the State address at the Empire State Plaza Convention Center on Wednesday, Jan. 9, 2013, in Albany, N.Y. Credit: AP

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The vote also would require Cuomo to issue a “message of necessity” that would dispense with the three days of public review that bills are supposed to have under the state constitution. There was no immediate comment from Cuomo, who made these gun control provisions a keynote of his State of the State address on Wednesday.

The negotiations faced several challenges.

The bill will be the first test of the new coalition in control of the state Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control “has the intensity of the gay marriage issue.” In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

“It was always startling to me the vast cultural divide between New York City metropolitan view on gun control and most of the upstate communities,” said Balboni, who represented part of Long Island for 10 years and was a Senate leader.

“Gun advocates see these incidents as almost cyclical and that in the wake of a national shooting incident, they have seen repeated calls for control,” he said Monday. “They view it as a slippery slope to the banning and confiscation of weapons. Emotions run high and there will be tremendous pressure on all upstate legislators, Republicans and Democrats, to keep their base.”

Also a concern is a major gun manufacturer in upstate New York.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve in Webster, N.Y., when two firefighters were slain responding to a fire. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

Republican Assemblyman Marc Butler warned last week that a more restrictive assault weapon ban could cost the factory 300 jobs.

President Barack Obama on Monday said there are steps he may take to enact new gun restrictions at a federal level without approval from Congress.

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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:21pm
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 7:30pm
  The republican party should expel the so-called republicans of NY. There are no real republicans in that commie state.
  
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- DadRocked
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 7:43pm
  The third pic caught my attention…
  Far left of the pic is a cop yawning…
  He knows what’s going on with the prop held by boomberg…
  
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- Rednight
  Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:51am
  Liberals could care less about saving lives. They don’t want the people to be as well armed as the government agencies. Remember how long it took them to prevail in Waco. They had to bring a tank in.
  
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am123
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:17pm
What gives Cuomo and others the right to go against the Constitution?

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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:26pm
  Where’s a earthquake or a hurricane when you need one…..
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:50pm
  “Gun Laws May Soon Be Even Tighter in New York — Get the Details on State’s ‘Tentative’ Gun Control Deal”
  
  It will matter little, because nothing is going to keep that area from being one of the crime capitals of the world, unless they put the high crime population in jail.
  
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am123
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:06pm
“The tentative agreement would further restrict New York’s ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets”.

How many bullets will Cuomo’s armed guards have?

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Swalker
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:59pm
North Florida would love for Remington to move here, we have skilled workers waiting for a job. Come on down and we will build the best Guns ever made. Please take the step to move where we would respect your right to own and use any semi auto weapons and full sized mags.

Florida is calling Come on home to us…….

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- CatB
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:19pm
  That would be EXCELLENT …
  
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Bookster
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:55pm
Man I can’t wait to get out of this God forsaken state. Moving to NY 10 years ago was one of the biggest mistakes of my life. Once I leave, I will never set foot in the state again.

Liberalism is a mental disorder.
Progressives are a virus, a plague.
Democrats are Godless.
MSNBC=Hell’s webcam.
Obama=Enemy of America.

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- oneshiner
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:00pm
  Good! Keep all the Idiots in NY and don’t let them infect the rest of the Nation.
  
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- gyro
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:08pm
  So your saying just to be clear your wanting to move away from all those great things in NY ?
  
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- dublinthewagons
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:11pm
  Come to Texas if you are a constitutional conservative. If not die where you are.
  As far as I’m concerned china can have new York.
  
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- wyoming33
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 8:45pm
  I’m stationed here in the Peoples Republic of New York….. I need new orders now!
  
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P4cooler
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:55pm
What a total circus! Start investigating the anti-depressant drugs & pharmaceutical industry. You guys in New York are just helping Obama push the UN Small Arms Treaty so the UN will have power to regulate the buying and selling of guns here at home! New York is being turned into a giant commode.

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Mike76
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:54pm
I love how every time Progressives want to do something “for the greater good,” it always involves special committees and closed door, off the record dealing, as well as suspending the normal rules and procedures – and Democrats never question this. They cry and cry about having a transparent and open government where corruption and special interest pressures cannot survive the “light of day,” but never miss an opportunity to use clandestine, secretive methods to cater to their own special interests. You soft ‘conservatives’ who still think that elections and “dialogue” and “getting the message out” will solve the problem are fools who have been reduced to cowards by the MSM. It is going to take action – dirty, painful, swift, fierce action. There must be a clear winner and a clear loser in this war of ideology- no more compromise.

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CulperGang
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:53pm
we can’t vote them out. the system is rigged. nys politicians are pushing the globalist agenda big time….the UN gun grab……nys might be a flash point………….Saratoga gun show 1/12 thousands turned out………..nyers have had it with the criminal politicians of nys.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 7:39pm
  I will believe it when I see it. Did you know New York abstained in the vote to declare independence? After the revolution they should have purged all the loyalists from the states. Now their descendants have completely ruin the country and are stripping us of the rights the founders fought for.
  
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MisterSarcastic
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:46pm
‘The tentative agreement would further restrict New York’s ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.’

So the democrats wanna trample on the 2nd Amendment and the republicans wanna trample on the 4th Amendment. Mark my word. This will be the republicans position in Congress, too. They will sacrifice our 4th Amendment rights to justify their caving on our 2nd Amendment rights and the majority of the uninformed public will go along with it. Fat, dumb and happy.

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Slowman101
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:42pm
I live in Syracuse, New York. Very anti-gun here. Out of curiosity, of the politicians voting FOR this so called gun amendment, how many of themhave pistos and assault rifles in THEIR homes? I bet you’d be surprised. Bloomberg and Cuomo have armed security. Why? If you enforce the gun laws you have on the books then criminals wouldn’t have guns unless they stole them.

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johnpaulkuchtajr
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:40pm
I know a lot of great New Yorkers; but, if they let this crap become law, they deserve everything they get!

“Remember Benghazi and ALL the Traders!”

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Chromo200
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:40pm
So a 7 round magazine .. so if I have on hand 20 of these magazines, I will have 140 rounds .. A little practice and one can change the magazines real quick, plus a lesser chance of jamming.

Maybe the law will ban backpacks to carry those extra magazines.

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- BannedByHuffpo
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:06pm
  Just like two 12 ounce Cokes gets you well past the 16 ounce New York soft drink legal limit.
  
  Lib/Prog Fools.
  
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SCREW-WINDOWS
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:32pm
What happened to personal responsibility ? Know where your weapon is at all times any good soldier knows that one.

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right-wing-waco
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:26pm
Why “7″ rounds??? Why not 6 or 8?? WTH, why not 4 and a half round magazines? We need patriots to run for these offices in the future. Vote ‘em out.

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- BannedByHuffpo
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:09pm
  There’s a video clip of a guy shooting 6 shots FROM A REVOLVER, reloading and firing another 6 shots IN LESS THAN THREE SECONDS!
  
  Guess I’ll hang onto and try to get a bit more proficient with my Colt Magnum Carry.
  
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DougHuffman
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:24pm
The Old Joke State and City have tolerated Doomberg and his buttboy Mario for years, they knew what they were getting.

MOLON LABE Obama Oedipus Rex

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ginger100
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:22pm
why not place an iron curtain around new york and place check points on roads through out the state? what do think comrades?

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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:31pm
  I like that. Sounds like a great idea for a movie. You can call the lead character Snake. Yeah, Snake Plisskin. Frankly, should have been done a few decades ago.
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:55pm
  Gosh RJJ! If that did happen, I bet the president wouldn’t even fly over that place!
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:00pm
  ZIPIT, Hmmmm? Maybe the next Plisskin movie can be Escape From Chicago? What do you think?
  
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- Zipit
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:13pm
  RJJ! Place a call to the local bricklayers union! We can start wallin her off tomorrow! Shovel ready!!!!
  
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Bum thrower
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:17pm
Take name; vote them out……..Law is in voilation of the 2nd Amendment; notice it’s being done ‘behind closed doors’…..Joint the NRA………vote EVERY RINO and DEMOCRAT out of office.

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- Wolf
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:45pm
  “…“I’m very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly.”…”
  
  So which do you think will get voted out first?
  
  Thought so.
  
  N’Yawkers are going to sit on their hands and be good little shep by turnbing in their full-capactity magazines and getting single stacks for their Glocks and Smiths. After all, a 1911 only needs seven shot mags- why can’t the others live with it?
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 7:42pm
  the only vote that will make a difference is the one made of lead.
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:17pm
They earn about $80,000 per year. Any upstate resident want a good 80k a year salary next year?

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South Philly Boy
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:14pm
Mayor DUMBberg is on the WARPATH AGAIN

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environmentalandawake
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:14pm
Time to Organize People!

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- barber2
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:54pm
  We all need to bone up on our Rules For Radicals just like the Chicago radicals did ! They are YEARS ahead of us….
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:14pm
Any state republican that votes for this deal better be prepared to be unemployed by the next election.

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DZ-015
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:13pm
The involuntary confinement of people medically diagnosed as being dangerous actually makes sense. It also is not necessarily a firearms issue. If they would only stop there, it would make sense.

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- booger71
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:00pm
  Ever took a Xanax. or Valium for stress? Ever took wellbutrin to stop smoking or to help loose weight? These “psychotropic medications” used routinely for non mental health issues will eventually be used by your government to deny your right to own a gun or buy ammo.
  
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- subic
  Posted on January 14, 2013 at 6:37pm
  CT has some of the strictest gun laws out there and it didn’t stop this kid from killing his mother and stealing her guns and ammo.
  
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MASSACHUSETTS MILITIA
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:12pm
Seven round mags? That will really help. These gun ban libs are not intelligent enough to understand that there is no stopping a person bent on hurting and killing others.

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Cavallo
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:11pm
Move out of NY, Remington! They hate you there. Not to mention think of the taxes you would save! Buy your ARs now, however you can get them before the law takes effect!

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circleDwagons
Posted on January 14, 2013 at 5:11pm
They will “debate” the bill behind closed doors? It is not gun control that is needed but politition control.

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