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New York Enacts the Strictest Gun Laws in the United States — Get All the Details

New York Passes the Strictest Gun Laws in the United States

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo speaks after signing New York’s Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act into law during a ceremony in the Red Room at the Capitol on Tuesday, Jan. 15, 2013, in Albany, N.Y. Also pictured from left are Senate co-leader Jeffrey Klein, D-Bronx, Senate Democratic Leader Andrea Stewart-Cousins, D-Yonkers, and Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, D-Manhattan. Credit: AP

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Jumping out ahead of Washington, New York state enacted the nation’s toughest gun restrictions Tuesday and the first since the Connecticut school massacre, including an expanded assault-weapon ban and background checks for buying ammunition.

Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo signed the measure into law less than an hour after it won final passage in the Legislature, with supporters hailing it as a model for the nation and gun-rights activists condemning it as a knee-jerk piece of legislation that won’t make anyone safer and is too extreme to win support in the rest of the country.

“Common sense can win,” Cuomo said. “You can overpower the extremists with intelligence and with reason and with common sense.”

Owners of an estimated 1 million previously legal semiautomatic rifles, such as the Bushmaster model used to kill 20 children and six adults in Newtown, Conn., a month ago, will be allowed to keep their weapons but will have a year to register them with police. The sale of any more such weapons is prohibited.

“When there’s a pileup of events, when the federal government does not do it, the state of New York has to lead the way,” said state Assemblyman Joseph Lentol, a Brooklyn Democrat and co-sponsor.

In addition to outlawing a broader array of military-style weapons, the measure restricts ammunition magazines to seven rounds, down from the current 10, creates a more comprehensive database of people barred from owning guns, and makes New York the first state to require background checks to buy bullets. The system will also help flag customers who buy large amounts of ammo.

In another provision, therapists, doctors and other mental health professionals will be required to tell state authorities if a patient threatens to use a gun illegally. The patient’s weapon could then be taken away.

Richard Aborn, president of the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City, said Cuomo clearly understood gun violence is a complex issue requiring broader solutions than simply banning a particular weapon. “I think that’s an important message for the nation,” he said.

In a statement, the National Rifle Association said: “These gun control schemes have failed in the past and will have no impact on public safety and crime.”

“While lawmakers could have taken a step toward strengthening mental health reporting and focusing on criminals, they opted for trampling the rights of law-abiding gun owners in New York, and they did it under a veil of secrecy in the dark of night,” the NRA said.

President Barack Obama will unveil his own proposals in response to the Newtown tragedy on Wednesday. He favors sweeping gun legislation, including a ban on assault weapons. But because of powerful opposition from the gun lobby, he is said to be weighing 19 steps he could take through executive action alone.

Those could include ordering stricter action against people who lie on gun-sale background checks, seeking to ensure more complete records in the federal database, and striking limits on federal research into gun use.

New York’s law passed the state Senate, which is run by a Republican-dominated coalition, 43-18 Monday night. The Democrat-controlled Assembly approved it 104-43 Tuesday afternoon.

Republicans complained the measure was rammed through the Legislature and infringes on the Second Amendment right to bear arms.

“A lot of people say, `Why do you need these guns?’” said Assemblyman James Tedisco, a Schenectady Republican. “It’s part of the freedoms and liberties we have. … It’s for our public safety. It’s to protect us from our own government.”

He said the bill was dangerous because it would give people a “false sense of well-being.”

“You are using innocent children killed by a madman for your own political agenda,” he said. “You are actually making people less safe.”

Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, questioned whether other states or the federal government would follow New York’s lead and said he expects the law to be challenged in court.

Previously, New York state law on assault weapons banned semiautomatics that have detachable magazines and at least two military-type features, such as a pistol grip, folding stock, muzzle flash suppressor or bayonet mount. The new law outlaws weapons with just one of those features.

It also requires background checks for even private gun sales, except those among immediate family.

In addition, it says handgun owners must renew their licenses every five years, and it increases prison sentences for using guns in various crimes or taking them onto school grounds.

“By making this a priority, the governor has not only saved lives but will hopefully inspire leaders in Washington also to take swift action,” said Dan Gross, president of the national Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.

In a concession to the pro-gun side, local authorities will be allowed to withhold the identities of registered gun owners – an issue that erupted recently when a suburban New York City newspaper published the names and addresses of gun owners in its readership area.

The New York legislation sparked spirited discussion among customers at the Buffalo Gun Center in the suburb of Cheektowaga, where business was so brisk that people had to wait in line in freezing temperatures just to get in the door.

“It’s ridiculous. It’s absolutely – how to put it nicely – it’s Prince Andrew Cuomo’s bid for the White House,” said Jim Hanley, who was waiting to buy another handgun. “I want to do it before the right is taken away. Andrew Cuomo and Barack Hussein Obama are two best gun salesmen in the history of the world.”

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Comments (106)

  • americanexile
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:42pm

    “I’m Andrew Cuomo, and I want criminals to have more ammo than you do.”

    Also, keep in mind that right now, in Dutchess County, the wait time for a pistol permit is over 15 months. How they hope to incorporate renewals is beyond me.

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    • Trigus
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:53pm

      Remember: New York has no provision in their State Constitution for its citizens to bear arms to defend themselves, or the state.

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    • neverwaiver
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 11:11pm

      Curious? Will his security detail and the detail of all his legislature be required to follow the same laws? Highly doubt it!

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    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 11:36pm

      Perform a citizens arrest on his bodyguards…I’m sure they have hi-caps!

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    • Marine 1
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 12:45am

      What a complete bunch of idiots. They have tossed out the Constitution and folks living in that state should pack their bags and head for some other state where the people have their heads on straight. Or not!

      Well, I guess I shall be crossing New York off my list of places to vacation now.

      此外,至少我们现在知道队友会侵入现在,新的枪枝法律到位的第一个国家。

      Translation…Also, at least we now know the first state that the OPFOR will invade now that the new gun laws are in place.( Hope I’m close.)

      California…New York…Next!?

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    • valiant1776
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 12:55am

      The citizens of New York have to lead the way and tell the Emperor of New York to go to hell. Don’t comply with registration. Do not for one moment doubt they will use it against you in the future. You have an estimate of about one million owners of semi-automatic rifles and you’re scared of them? If this is the kind of BS the rest of the states face, and our nation will introduce, then the time to remain silent and do nothing has come to a complete and utter stop.

      “The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.” – Thomas Jefferson

      “It is proper to take alarm at the first experiment on our liberties. We hold this prudent jealousy to be the first duty of citizens, and one of the noblest characteristics of the late Revolution. The freeman of America did not wait till usurped power had strengthened itself by exercise, and entangled the question in precedents. They saw all the consequences in the principle, and they avoided the consequences by denying the principle.” – James Madison

      “Any single man must judge for himself whether circmstances warrant obedience or resistance to the commands of the civil magistrate; we are all qualified, entitled, and morally obliged to evaluate the conduct of our rulers.” – John Locke

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:08am

      Don’t forget, New York abstained from the vote to declare independence from england as well.
      After the revolution, they should have forced all loyalists out of the states, now their descendants are destroying the freedoms that were hard won.

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    • poorrichard09
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:57am

      Let the lawsuits begin!

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    • turkey13
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:32am

      Cuomo is like all those wealthy politicians that are so important they have to have body guards to protect them and their kids.
      It’s like the Governor. boyscout, and priest on a plane that is going down with just two parachutes. The governor told the boy and the priest that he was too smart & important to be missed by his family and the people of his state so he grabs one and jumps out. The priest tells the boyscout to take the other one. The boyscout laughs and tells the priest there is still two parachutes since the governor took his backpack.

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    • Trigus
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:43am

      It is simple. Boycott New York. Any and every business in New York. No vacations, no business trips, no money from congress. Tell your federal representatives to vote NO for anything to do with New York.

      Why would anyone go to New York and put their life in danger? Knowing from Statistical Data, from FBI, that violent crime will rise when gun control is enforced.

      “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.”
      Thomas Jefferson: “Legal Commonplace Book.” The passage is from Cesare Beccaria’s Essay on Crimes and Punishments.

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    • pavepaws
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:33pm

      Andrew is as useless as his father.

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  • Jim S
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:32pm

    Excellent NY..I salute you in making attempts to protect your citizens right to life because without that, you have no other rights…now I hope he rest of the states and the Federal govt pass NO laws re gun/bullet control..for 10years..let’s see what happens in NY…

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    • JEANNIEMAC
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 12:17am

      By enacting gun control laws, Gov. Cuomo broke the law. this law of 1902 forbids any new gun control laws.
      http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3949

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    • mixplix
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 5:46am

      Here in NYS we are well aware of Andrew getting things aliened for the election in 2016 and what a thing to have on his resume’, that he was the first to pass gun yadda, yadda, yadda. Never let a crisis go to waste rings very true for these politicians.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:12am

      Jim-
      you have no right to life. They can murder children in the womb. The state isn’t there to protect you, they are there to control you. NY has the highest rate of law enforcement corruption in the country, why are they not being similarly disarmed?

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    • Hadituptohere
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 11:09am

      let’s restrict the guns ” for the kids”… but you can still have an abortion cuz .. well just cuz it’s common sense…DUH!! New York (city) logic .. gotta love it huh?!!

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  • Ohio50patriot
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:28pm

    New York is gone, what is the next state to fall.

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  • DTOM31
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:23pm

    So now if I get confronted by a criminal, the criminal will have 30 rounds, the law-abiding citizen will have 7 rounds.

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    • Jim S
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:37pm

      ..aim son…it’s everything…fire twice..reacquire the target…fire twice again…

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    • DTOM31
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:54pm

      Gun Control = BRASS (Breath, Relax, Aim, Slack, Squeeze)

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    • MK2
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 11:33pm

      I guess my 30 round mags would be laying around the ******* after I empty them on him when the cop came to get his body out of my house if I lived in N.Y. No I think I would move out of that state

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    • termyt
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 6:43am

      Larger calibers will help. .45 ACP has sufficient stopping power in one shot where 9mm often needs two. Police are trained to double-tap with 9mm and now you only have 7 rounds. (Which is the magazine size of a 1911, by the way).

      Jim S – accuracy is great, but most of us are never in life threatening situations – very hard to prepare for. The only way to overcome that is through practice. Of course, now you need a back ground check to buy ammo and can only buy limited quantities. So practice just became a lot more expensive.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:15am

      OF course Jim forgets, more often than not there is more than one perp involved. Good luck with that when the rioting Obama Zombies ravage the towns when food stamps run out, or the next generation Air Jordans go on sale.

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  • Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:23pm

    “New York’s law passed the state Senate, which is run by a Republican-dominated coalition, 43-18 Monday night. The Democrat-controlled Assembly approved it 104-43 Tuesday afternoon.”

    Granted we’re talking about New “Insane Liberals” York, but it exemplifies that Progressives(communists) are so entrenched in both Parties that there is no difference between them. They are NOT American and have no regard for our Liberties and Justice Under God codified in our Declaration Of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.

    They are now running our country after 100 years of incremental insurrection and must be rooted out if America is to survive.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:17am

      All republicans who voted for this need to be immediately kicked out of the republican party. This never should have passed, at least not with this high of numbers. Traitors….

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  • GUYFROMMAINE
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:22pm

    Dear New Yorkers,
    Have no fear,your government will protect you. See, by passing these laws, violent crimes will just have to stop. Don’t you just feel safer now that you have less means of defending yourself? Seriously, sorry for those of you who support the 2nd amendment. For all you liberals in New York, congratulations, you have only aided the criminals, who by the way, do not follow the laws. In case you are ever faced with someone who wants to take your life with a gun, please make sure you have a copy of this law to protect you. Wave it in front of them, and maybe they will magically disappear.

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    • RedSox718
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:52pm

      As a 24 year old who lives in a suburb of Albany, NY I can honestly say I don’t know ANYONE who supports this. Unfortunately the idiots in NYC basically run our state government…

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    • circleDwagons
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:16am

      Every New Yorker should post No Trespessing and GUN Free Zone signs on the boundries of their property.

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  • John WIS.
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:14pm

    I truly hope, that all gun owners in New York, tell Cuomo to take his new law and shove it.

    Just like the rest of this country is ready to tell the President to do the same thing.

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    • banjarmon
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:32pm

      Is NOT the Constitution the Supreme Law of the land??
      Dose the Constitution supersede All state laws??
      If It dose, Is NOT every gun law written, that INFRINGES ON OUR RIGHTS TO OWN AND BEAR ARMS after the Constitution was written, UNCONSTITUTIONAL??

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  • texanpatriot
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:12pm

    Well, Andrew Cuomo has shown those criminals! The next time they come into Walmart to buy a gun or a bunch of bullets they will be shocked at how hard it will be on them.

    Man I feel sorry for them. This should take the crime rate close to zero in the entire state of New York.

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  • OperationNorthwoods
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:09pm

    Better download the 3D printable magazines now.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/breaking-printable-ar-30-round-magazines-now-available-for-download-seriously.html

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  • EdtheK
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:02pm

    By passing this law, they have for the next few months, to a year have stopped most new semi auto gun sales. With the new 7 round magazine mandate, which some .45 caliber pistols meet, most 9mm semi auto pistols will have no saleable magazines available to sell in NY. Heck, even the simple Ruger 10/22 Rifle won’t be able to be sold until a new 7 round mag is engineered for it. all that is left is bolt action rifles, muzzleloaders, shotguns, and revolvers. This sure sounds like a violation of the second amendment. It is definitely an infringement. What happens when you don’t register? Does this mean when you buy your rifle and go through the instant background check, they really don’t know what you have bought? New Yorkers, you are losing your freedoms one bit at a time to these statists. The rest of us seem to be sliding down right behind you. I feel a storm is coming. I pray that the nation comes out of it intact and stronger.

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  • noneed4govthelp
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:57pm

    I think the first thing we should do is collect enough signatures to put a referendum on the Nov ballot.Then we should vote out as many as possible.Upstate has some that just squeaked by in winning their election.Terry Gipson won because two republicans split the vote. Others will be vulnerable too.

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    • WarMunger_Al
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 7:21am

      it is too late for New York. No amount of voting will help the New Yorkers willingness to put up with government oppression.

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  • woodyee
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:55pm

    “You are using innocent children killed by a madman for your own political agenda,” he said. “You are actually making people less safe.”

    This should not surprise anyone in their 60′s or younger – we remember how they trampled over the backs of Patrick Purdy’s victims to pass the ‘Weapons Control” Act of 1989 in Kalifphonya.

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  • woodyee
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:52pm

    the measure restricts ammunition magazines to seven rounds, down from the current 10…

    from 30 to 10 to 7 to…

    …background check for those wanting ammo…

    …if you’re wondering how these would have stopped a mass murder, join the NRA.
    …if you’re wondering why law abiding citizens in New York are being punished for the willful act of a mentally deranged INDIVIDUAL IN CONNECTICUT – join the NRA.

    If you’ve got questions like that running through your head, and you’re NOT considering joining, then you’ve already joined the hoplophobes on Obammy’s side. Middle-of-the-road’ers get run over by both sides…

    …which is why I dislike RINO’s.

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    • EdtheK
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:12pm

      I agree, that is why for the first time I joined the NRA, and have been contributing the the ILA part of the NRA too. The talk tha the NRA is out of touch with the people, is just plain incorrect , and the left’s attempt to demonize a group that is a danger to their agenda.
      The problem is that law information voters like encinom fall for the Alinsky tactics.

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    • SquidVetOhio
      Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:32am

      Sent in my $35 yesterday.

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  • Parenthetical Comments
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:46pm

    Cara, Michaela and Mariah are all surrounded by guns 24/7. Andrew Cuomo does not feel you deserve the right to protect your children. After all we are just peasants, Lord Andrew sees no needed for the peasant children to be protected.

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  • Americanius
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:44pm

    “The provision would mandate a life sentence without parole for anyone who murders a first responder.”
    WTF?! Typical liberal BS, avoiding the death penalty. When the. perp killed himself this would have prevented the recent attack on firefighters how? Isn’t it already life for premeditated murder in NY?
    Well at least in a year after the next incident NY will have the names and addresses of all the gun owners so they can confiscate their funds. Be interesting to see what the compliance rate for registration is going to be. The reason the WH and NY want database sharing is so the ATF can provide Form 4473 info to NY for the big gun grab. They won’t be kicking on doors for long because it will eventually lead to senseless death. Simply keeping tax refunds, refusing to renew driver’s licenses and any other strongarm tactics a tyrannical oppressive government uses as a boot on the necks of the people.

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  • FightingBear
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:42pm

    If I were a madman or some kind of violent criminal….well, I’d have the car packed and be heading up to New York! This is a violent criminal’s wet dream!

    Good luck to the state of New York….you’re going to need it!

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  • rayh
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:41pm

    it just shows you how stupid liberals truly are…over that last 10 yrs how many shooting involved assault rifles??? i would bet less than 3%… criminals perfer handguns, easier to hide.. i bet both dumbo and dumberg all have numerous armed guards protecting there worthless lives while the rest of us have to hope we will survive. when obama and all the other hypocrates give up thier armed guards then i will believe what they say

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    • noneed4govthelp
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:14pm

      This has nothing to do with mass shootings.This was the excuse they needed, to continue chipping away, at the 2amd.They would like to do away with it completely ,but know they can’t do everything right away.This has no more to do about reducing shootings, than the affordable care act has to do with affordable care.
      I do think there are 2 Americas though.One is the ruling class and the other is the people.The elites have been good at getting us to fight each other and not them.

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    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 11:46pm

      They don’t care about deaths…they are worried that our semi-automatic weapons like the AR-15 or even the Bushmaster could give the US army a hard time in case of an uprising. They don’t want us to be able to meet the army in the field with similar weapons when they finally push us to the breaking point.

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  • formergasman
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:40pm

    Andrew Cuomo, Il Duce of New York!

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  • katzkiner
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:37pm

    That is one scary bunch of of tyrants at the podium. Are they gods? No doubt in their minds they are. Righteous too.

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  • coyote1hell
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:36pm

    The bad guys don’t buy ammo or guns from dealers, they get them on the street, or steal them…

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  • katzkiner
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:29pm

    And to think residents of New York pay 60% of their income in state and federal taxes. Sounds like they need a revolution.

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  • Deadbang
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:23pm

    ” You can overpower the extremists with intelligence with reason and with common sense” of which you have none Mr. Cuomo. Overpower and reason are diametrically opposed. You just showed your true colors. Tell us in a few years how much safer the people in your state are. There will be no noticable reduction in gun violence due to this knee jerk legislation.

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  • Daddy Hawg
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:19pm

    Question, does the new law requiring registration violate the Firearms Owners’ Protection act title 18 USC Section 926? I think this is a clear violation but since when do politicians follow the laws in place to protect the citizen when it could interfere with their political ambitions?

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  • katzkiner
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:16pm

    They’re making the streets safe for robbers, rapists and most of all the knock out game.

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  • MetalPatriot
    Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:15pm

    Vote these bstrds out!

    What’s wrong with you people in NY, IL, D.C., & CA where these type of people are continually re-elected?

    Stand up, for crying out loud!

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    • Wicked-n-wise
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 9:37pm

      il? You mean chicago… city of the big shoulders and 2nd highest murder rates? most of Il has common sense and the brutally crooked political obamatopians of chicago and springfield have a stranglehold on the state… we wish they could be made a state to free us downstaters of their grip on our wallets and our freedoms.

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    • Americanius
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:00pm

      Repubes who control the NY senate fell right in line with their Marxist brethren to pass the bill. It was pubes who helped get the 1994 AW ban passed. So when someone says it won’t happen in Congress they have their head in the sand.
      Generalisimo Cuomo is an ignorant SOB if he thinks that law is going to make people safer when in reality it will result in the death of law abiding citizens by the state.

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    • Rbell2915
      Posted on January 15, 2013 at 10:29pm

      If Chicago was its own state, downstate Illinois would be the most red state in the union. Because of them we’re so messed up.

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