Andrea Mitchell Argues Gov’t Can Infringe Upon Americans’ ‘Inalienable Rights’ — Hear Pro-Gun Advocate’s Epic Response
MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell on Wednesday argued that even Americans’ “inalienable rights” may be infringed upon by the federal government, including our freedom of speech and Second Amendment rights.
The claim may seem outrageous, but here’s how Mitchell defended her stance after her guest claimed the Obama administration can’t infringe upon Americans’ inalienable rights:
“Well, they can be infringed, because the First Amendment is infringed, I have to obey all sorts of regulations from the FCC, there are things we can’t say in a crowded theater, so every right also carries with it responsibilities and obligations.”
In response, Eric Pratt, of Gun Owners for America, provided a well thought out analogy that seemingly dismantled Mitchell’s argument.
“What’s interesting about that, though, is we don’t gag people before they go into the theater, we punish the lawbreakers,” he said. “And in the same way, we would argue punish those who abuse the right, but don’t gag law-abiding citizens before they exercise their right. We shouldn’t be registering them like sex offenders, like they are in New York. We shouldn’t be in any way impeding them if they have not committed a crime.”
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The Big Mick
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:21pmI would also suggest Glenn is either in Clinical Denial, Guilty of Moral or Intellectual Cowardice, or, again, playing us for what he thinks is our own good, when he argues for Jesus/Gandhi Pacifism as the Obedient Theological Response to Tyranny.
A Biblical/Theological/Dogmatic case for Pacifism CAN be made. BUT, as C.S. Lewis points out, the Assured Endgame IS TYRANNY! In other words The End of the Jesus/Gandi Road is ENSLAVEMENT to be entered into with full knowledge on the excuse that it is the “more excellent way.” And NOT just for oneself and one’s family, but for ALL ONE’S NEIGHBORS!
The Thoughtful Student is also expected to follow the Logic all the way to a Rejection of ALL Violence including POLICE and to ponder the consequences in the Context of “The Good Samaritan” parable.
However, since before Augustine, and certainly after, the Theological Case has been made that Justice can REQUIRE violence, and thus, SOME Violence is a FORM of OBEDIENCE.
Obviously the Founders embraced the latter rather than the former, I call, again, upon Glenn to clearly delineate ON WHAT MORAL and INTELLECTUAL and CONSTITUTIONAL basis, consistent WITH the FOUNDERS, he would have us make a different choice.
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drs1969
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 11:14pmI vote cowardice. He has been ‘cowed’ by a life time of being berated for be a white man. See John Boehner, John Effin’ McCain, etc.
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chicago76
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:18pmI like these talking heads. They think if they say something with a straight face it must be believable. They are funny. Really they are all actors. And as we know all actors are liars.
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truthnstuff
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:13pmOnce again we have proof positive that one must be stupid and ugly to be a liberal.
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chicago76
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:12pmFunny how these news people look at government like this giant monolithic impregnable monster that no one can hurt and can step on you at will. When all government really is is a bunch of people who get paid to run things. People live. People die. Governments live. Governments die. It is the way of the world. Only God is eternal. Rome thought it would last forever too. This government will die and the way things are going, no one will care when it dies.
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Kathleen3
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:04pmAfter Mitchell’s 5th face lift when the surgeon was required to remove her brain so as to make space for her lifted cheeks I knew it was a waste of time to listen to anything this Progressive geriatric newscaster reported.
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The Big Mick
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:00pmGiven the Stark Naked FACT that what we are REALLY talking about here is an infringement/abridgement/abrogation of our GOD ENDOWED UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, does anyone else find Glenn’s Jesus/Gandhi Non-violence shtick a Cognitive Dissonance of Clinical Denial proportions?
Similarly, is anyone buying his premise of The Founders’ “long suffering patience” with such attempted abrogations of THEIR Sacred Liberties?
The Stark Naked Facts there are that between The Stamp Act, The Intolerable Acts and other Infringements, and the Start of the Killing Fields at Lexington and Concord was a mere decade.
Haven’t we been being Victimized by the Tyranny of DC, enabled by our Fellow Dumbcits, since TEDDY and WILSON? A CENTURY of “long suffering”! Does the term “Order of Magnitude” mean anything to anybody?
“Patience” as an EXCUSE for Moral and Intellectual COWARDICE?
Washington, upon receiving the news of Lexington and Concord at Mt. Vernon, wrote to a friend: “The once-happy and peaceful plains of America are either to be drenched in blood or inhabited by slaves. Sad alternative, but can a virtuous man hesitate in his choice?”
Apparently Glenn believes Hesitation, in this case a CENTURY of it, IS Virtuous.
Theologically, though, and my M.Div. from Duke gives me street cred for such a critique, Glenn has placed himself in what a British Thinker called a “logical cleft stick”.
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roscoe569
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:56pmFolks! Are there any of you who will acknowledge that we have a gun problem? You’re all so focused on your ” right to bear arms”, but I don’t hear of any solutions. So, again, Is there a gun problem in this country, and if not, then what is the main problem? Come on, start a dialogue already….use your words to explain your logic . I’d like to understand it better.
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The Big Mick
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:09pmNeither you, nor The Republic, have a “gun” problem.
You have a combination of Moral, Ethical, and Social Contract Problems made worse by a Problem with a Lack of Intelligence and Cogency.
The POINT, sirrah, is that REGARDLESS of what YOU think your “problem” is, MY GOD ENDOWED UNALIENABLE INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS are neither subject to your approval or legitimate ground for your “solutions.” If you think you have a problem that needs solution then YOU come up with them, but keep your POS hands off MY God Endowed Unalienable Individual RIGHTS and LIBERTIES.
I leave it to the Unbiased Objective Observer to come up with an appropriate epithet for your lack of understanding.
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drs1969
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 11:18pmFolks, will any of you acknowledge we may have a ‘False Flag’ problem? Whether or not Lanza did the killings, DC is using this as a distraction from Benghazi.
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elderbat
Posted on January 17, 2013 at 12:05amone point to consider, coming from one who lived in rough neighborhoods on the wrong side of the tracks from early childhood and long years after: any nut job, thug, etc can either find somebody able to pass a background check to buy his weapon of choice or can make contact with black marketeers to get what he wants. all he needs is cash and the seller ain’t gonna ask no questions…and doesn’t take a genius to file off serial numbers…and this “assault weapon” nonsense is just that: nonsense. a military-style rifle is just a regular old rifle with different stocks, made to look military. semi-auto means firing one bullet at a time. automatic weapons are generally bought by collectors, are horribly expensive and only a few could ever hope to own one thanks to rigorous checks. that term “assault weapon” can apply to a spoon if one chooses to attack another with one, but the low-info crowd gets all upset and the libs know it full well. if I’m not mistaken, that term showed up during the Brady bill debate and has been around fooling people ever since. one last comment: imagine for a moment an unarmed America with that wide-open southern border and what the drug cartels would do if they got word of it…we have the right to protect ourselves and our families. no holier-than-thou has any business telling us we don’t.
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Mr. Smarty
Posted on January 17, 2013 at 2:41pmThe problem is that you and your L.G.B.T.Q. soul mates including “The First Gay President” pictured on the cover of the May 2012 edition of Newsweek are all about controlling the populace through micro-management. It should be enough for your types to control your own lives but, since you and your buds consider yourselves more intelligent and “forward thinking” than the unwashed masses, you and your type assume the position of national controllers. Because you and your type are gutless, you elect politicians who attempt to turn this country into your version of utopia. The bottom line is this, as long as I am not invading your space or victimizing you, it is none of your business what kind of weapons I own.
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The Big Mick
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:55pmGiven the Stark Naked FACT that what we are REALLY talking about here is an infringement/abridgement/abrogation of our GOD ENDOWED UNALIENABLE RIGHTS, does anyone else find Glenn’s Jesus/Gandhi Non-violence shtick a Cognitive Dissonance of Clinical Denial proportions?
Similarly, is anyone buying his premise of The Founders’ “long suffering patience” with such attempted abrogations of THEIR Sacred Liberties?
The Stark Naked Facts there are that between The Stamp Act, The Intolerable Acts and other Infringements, and the Start of the Killing Fields at Lexington and Concord was a mere decade.
Haven’t we been being Victimized by the Tyranny of DC, enabled by our Fellow Dumbcits, since TEDDY and WILSON? A CENTURY of “long suffering”! Does the term “Order of Magnitude” mean anything to anybody?
“Patience” as an EXCUSE for Moral and Intellectual COWARDICE?
Washington, upon receiving the news of Lexington and Concord at Mt. Vernon, wrote to a friend: “The once-happy and peaceful plains of America are either to be drenched in blood or inhabited by slaves. Sad alternative, but can a virtuous man hesitate in his choice?”
Apparently Glenn believes Hesitation, in this case a CENTURY of it, IS Virtuous.
Theologically, though, and my M.Div. from Duke gives me street cred for such a critique, Glenn has placed himself in what a British Thinker called a “logical cleft stick”.
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FaithfulFriend
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:51pmI really like how he explained it.
I’ve said for years when engaged in conversation with anyone when they bring up the “shout fire in a theater” approach that… Yes, people can certainly say it and are free to say it but if they cause a panic or damage as a result of their actions then they are responsible and must be held to account.
“We don’t want to gag people before they enter the theater” is a really excellent and well thought out comment to this very common and stupid point the thin minded make.
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mooshoo
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:44pmIt is very difficult to enslave a population where many own and will use guns.
Much easier to enslave an unarmed one.
Even easier to enslave a population that is unarmed and feels guilty about whatever.
It is not just the guns they are after…
It is our (whatever is left of it) freedom.
And it is not just America.
But as America is the last stand of man on earth, we have to keep it free: Not only for us, but for the entire human race.
I am old and will probably not see the new dark ages, but my kids will.
Hate to think about what awaits them.
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papatom48
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:36pmanother example of a stupid left wing kook fringe journalist spouting male bovine excrement. how do these supposed journalists keep their jobs. pathetic.
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TEOTWASWKI
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:33pmMSNBC host Andrea Mitchell on Wednesday argued that even Americans’ “inalienable rights” may be infringed upon by the federal government, including our freedom of speech and Second Amendment rights.
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Of course they can be infringed….just as soon as our Marxist in Chief finises fundamentally transforming our nation.
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ImMadAsHell
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:18pmAM your argument is weak, weak weak. All of you liberals need to wake up and get smart. What would you say IF I were to say your life or your grandchild’s life should they be in grave danger and a gun owner were to blow away a criminal who was bout to harm them? What would you be saying then. I freeken despise Liberal mindsets AND liberals
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wntsmallgov
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:14pmThe government will infringe on our rights if we let them. NO MORE,
HOIST THE COLORS STAND YOUR GROUND.
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BadDog-NoBiscuit
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:09pmProgressive/Socialist BITCH!!!
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Salamander
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:05pmI wonder what these people will do when, one day, they are confronted in a situation that would best be mitigated through the use of THEIR firearm! With their collective heads stuck in the ground, they probably won’t even see it coming! I simply cannot believe the utter stupidity of ‘less guns means less crime’! This is Alice in Wonderland territory! Grow up, be responsible, and help maintain the public order–by carrying your ‘First Responder’ with you!
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Impenitent
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:01pmthe government can do as it wishes? when do the government rape squads get started? will she sing their praises because they are governmentally approved?
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Lone Ranger
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 9:01pmYou would think someone who considers herself a journalist would know what “inalienable” means.
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Abraham Young
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:55pmRemember, all you idiots who claim the First Amendment does not give you the right to yell fire in a crowded theater, lo and behold IT DOES.
Your freedom of speech is guaranteed AT ALL TIMES REGARDLESS.
But what is not covered by the First Amendment, is LYING and INCITING TO RIOT ON FALSE PRETENSES.
So, if there is a real fire, FEEL FREE
IF there isn’t, if you have to lie, the First Amendment allows you TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT but to bear the consequences and responsibility.
Let’s get VERY VERY CLEAR on the matter, so idiots like Andrea Mitchell can’t misunderstand so blatantly and STUPIDLY. Yes, STUPIDLY.
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Lotus503
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:54pmMaybe the people of America should strip her of her citizenship and deport her. Oh…but that would be infringing on her rights!
She can demand the infringement of your rights…but nobody had better infringe on hers!
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ibanrfknm
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:40pmThis argument that you can’t hunt with an AR and you don’t need a 30 round magazine just infuriates me. The second amendment is not about hunting or home protection it is about liberty and should be argued as such.
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demsrtraitors
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:37pmDEMOCRATS/ LIBERALS ARE TRAITORS. what is it that you don’t understand?
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paperpushermj
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:37pmHow is Andrea Mitchell probably someone who has never hunted telling hunters that the .223 cal round is not used for small game hunting? She is just regurgitating what she heard from other none hunters.
ANY .223 HUNTERS OUT THERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE WITNESS?
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FASTCOMPANY
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:22pmI really dislike this woman. If she had as many ****** sticking out of her as she had put in her she would be a porkipine.
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MrKnowItAll
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 8:20pmSay what you will about Glenn Beck. But he told us that Masks would come off and they have.
NOW we know WHO these people are. If things BREAK OUT. Don’t Forget WHO these people are.
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