S.E. Cupp
During MSNBC’s “The Cycle” on Wednesday, TheBlaze TV’s S.E. Cupp slammed her fellow MSNBC co-host Touré after he accused Southern states of being racist for filing secession petitions due to President Barack Obama’s policies. He said petitions demonstrate that “Southern people” really don’t want to “be in a country run by a black man.”
“The slew of secession petitions out of the south really interests me,” Touré said. “This idea that there are a lot of Southern people who want to have nothing to do with Obama’s America.”
“I think they’re talking about, ‘we don’t want to be in a country run by a black man,’” he added.
“That’s so offensive that you’re maligning an entire region of the country and injecting race into their psyches because they don’t like the polices of this president,” Cupp replied.
Cupp went on to say that “secessionism” is “offensive” to her but it’s “equally offensive to call these folks racist when you know nothing of their viewpoints and don’t know anything of their criticisms.”
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:59pmThe South isn’t any more racist than any other part of the county, and never has been. For every “black code” in the south – I can show you one up north. Nobody wants to tell you that 12 of the 13 colonies signing the Articles of Confederation held slavery as legal, only 11 at the time of the Constituition’s ratification – that would mean only two non-slave colonies in 1791. Slavery was first institutionalized in colonial Masschusetts. So, I’m sick of the revisionist history on the matter that it was only ever a “southern” problem.
Its pretty easy to discern why the south is maligned like it is.
1.) there would be no Bill of Rights had it not been for southerners
2.) We’ve always been conservative 19th century Democrats were the conservatives of their time.
3.) We’ve always stood against constitutional usurpation
4.) We’ve always been personally armed – and intend to stay that way
5.) We’re the most religious region in the nation.
6.) We’ve always been “right to work”
7,) We’ve always had the most fiscally responsible state governments.
I absolutely resent the notion that “Good Republicans” came down here and supplanted southerners. LBJ broke the illusion of any lingering conservatism in the Democrat party with his “Great Society” – which bolstered the Republicans and created the DixieCrat. We’re kinda becoming just as disillusioned with the Republicans – because they look alot like LBJ-types these days. Hence, the “Secession” talk
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rp454
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:17pmI have always said that a southern Democrat is more conservative than a yankee Republican.
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Gold Coin & Economic News
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:22pmNo Toure, you are such a stupid idiot!!! We don’t want to be in a country where the liberalism that you spew out every day gives us a situation where law abiding citizens can’t own firearms of their choice and 6 year olds get suspended for pointing their fingers at each other in a game of cops and robbers:
http://www.isthatbaloney.com/6-year-old-buys-suspended-for-using-fingers-as-guns/
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The Third Archon
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:47pmGranted, racism isn’t JUST a southern problem, it is an AMERICAN one (and a GLOBAL one to be even more accurate)–but WITHIN our country, it has been, and remains, more virulent in the south. Which isn’t to say every southerner is racist, any more than to say only southerners are racist, but MORE southerners are MORE racist per capita than non-southerners. Why do you think they stopped being “Dixiecrats” following the Civil Rights Act’s passage (for one)?
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BODYBAG
Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:31pm@THE THIRD ARCHON
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 6:47pm
but WITHIN our country, it has been, and remains, more virulent in the south. ….but MORE southerners are MORE racist per capita than non-southerners
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The flaw of your logic is that it only accounts for self-admission.
As always is the progressive way you offer nothing in the way of fact —– only broad generalized opinion
with no substantive data to back it up.
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DIR
Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:37pmFirst of all, Toure is an idiot. All he’s doing is race bating the argument for seccession and for obvious reasons. The technique appeares to have worked durning the election, so why stop now. Race has nothing to do with the current talk of seccession. If there is any constructive talk about racism, it sould be focused on black hatred of whites as vocalized by Jamie Foxx, many other black celebs, Louis Farrakhan, the black panthers, Big News to name a few. The list is endless.
Being defensive only plays into Toure’s strategy. The best defense concerning the use of his argument is a counter offense, and Toure should be the target. He sounds like a black panther, the black rendition of the KKK, and because they’re black doesn’t make them any nicer. We should tell him if he doesn’t like whites move where there aren’t any and take his sour band of racists with him, white, black, red, yellow. Otherwise he needs to shut up before someone else makes him.
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:43pmWell Mr Archon – because the Civil Rights Acts weren’t passed all by themselves – which is a point you missed in my post (it was subtle “Great Society”). All that Civil Rights stuff was passed right along with the welfare entitlements that are killing us financially now – and the southrons knew it -THEN.
I had a black man explain to me what went wrong between the races, and was wise enough to know that both southern blacks and whites acted similarly in some important ways. He was 96 when I met him and had lived the majority of his life in actual “Jim Crow” times. His answer was simple, “None of us have ever liked being forced by the government to do anything,,,”. True. “And the government was treating us both badly (black and white) and pointing the finger of blame at the other”. True. You don’t enhance race relations that way.
Reconstruction actually destroyed what natual amerlioration of slavery would have occurred by forcibly hammering into the whites “All your suffering is due to the blacks” On the other hand, the blacks were told “All your suffering is due to the whites”. Only a damn fool would think that to beat either demographic over the head with the other – would make them love each other at all.
Do you honestly think you are going to create fewer racists by saying southern whites are fit for extermination because of a “black” reason? I wouldn’t expect either race to react well to such a proposition.
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HumbleMan
Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:01pm@RP454 … to paraphrase you, a southern Democrat is more rational and requires empirical evidence (i.e . experience) in place of ideological pillars, than any northern politician.
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:29pmHumbleman,
The Democrat party in the south is virtually extinct. It only lives where northern transplants of the Democrat/Progressive variety have transplanted en masse. Which, has converted about all the native Democrat electorate to Republican.
The reason the native Democrat officeholders are disappearing is an over-identification with national party. There were (until just a few years ago) State level Democrats down here that were more conservative on any issue than your staunchest DC republican from ANY part of the nation. They’ve been wiped out in voter disgust over the national Democratic party 2008-present. Those good State Democrats are either 1.) retired from politics by loss and age, or 2.) presently Republicans. Note: Artur Davis in Alabama.
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survivorseed
Jan. 16, 2013 at 9:00pmI don’t believe secession is race related. Its just poorly educated, easily scared adults behaving like babies and throwing their toys out of the cot because the world is evolving and its not 1950 any more. If only these folks could look in a mirror and see their resemblance to the ultra extreme muslims that they like to deride at every opportunity. Let me point them out.
1. Hatred of gays
2. Intolerance for a differing opinion
3. Women are second class citizens who can’t decide for themselves
4. Continuing the cycle of hatred by instilling it into their children.
5. Making all decisions based on a 2000 year old book.
6. Hiding behind a religion
In fact, of the only minor difference I see between secessioners and muslims is that muslims actually carry out their threats and the southerners are all talk.
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Deeduck
Jan. 16, 2013 at 9:41pm@survivorseed
Another anti-Christ bigot.
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survivorseed
Jan. 16, 2013 at 10:47pmThanks for proving my point Deeduck.
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:00amWell lets just run down southerner’s opposition, folks like mr SurvivorSeed here.
Folks who are overeducated to the point of dysfunction, existing in a psuedo-acedemic utopian euphoria. When they don’t get their way, they camp out in protest, wallow in their own feces like neantherthals, and complain about the all the things that get in the way of their utopia. They never look into mirrors, because they are so hollow as to have no reflection at all. If it weren’t for their incessant bitching and divisive duplicitousness, we’d never know they existed – because we wouldn’t miss them.
Their top 6 qualities of identification are:
1.) A hatred of whites – even if white themselves
2.) Absolute intolerance of opinion, especially not their own
3.) Anyone not of their “intelligence” is incapable of decision and should defer to their opinion (see #2)
4.) Continuing the cycle of hatred by teaching their children to look down on anybody else (see #3)
5.) Making all decisions based upon a 165 year old pamphlet (Communist Manifesto)
6.) Hiding behind failed governmental systems that always lead to poverty and genocide (see #6)
There is less difference between Muslims and Yankee Progressives, because they are actually on the same side. Southrons do make alot of noise, like a Rattlesnake. We honestly hope you just go around us and leave us alone – but if you can’t and you actually get brave enough to get in our space – we’ll bite.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:03amwait.. do we still need proof that the south is racist?
BODYBAG
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:05am@DIKWEED
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 10:47pm
Thanks for proving my point Deeduck.
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Looks like you illustrated his point junior.
I get customers like you who promote that dumb southerner myth.
I actually enjoy your kind and I love that you think that way.
I always grin ear to ear after you’ve just paid me 800% more profit than a
regular customer for being so dumb.
Keep on truckin boy.
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brother_ed
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:06amI’m pretty sure the South is not the stereotypical South y’all are thinking it is.
I’m pretty sure Florida’s population growth has been driven by the ‘damn Yankees moving down.
Many of the people I know here in Texas moved here from California or Michigan.
The South is now populated by people fleeing Liberal bastions.
I have no facts to back it up, just a personal observation.
The South is where people have moved to so they can be around real Americans.
Why do you think Glenn moved to Texas?
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Wildape
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:18amWhy should my grandchildren slave away for California and Northeastern liberal states mistakes? What loyalty should I have to a government that wishes to enslave me? I’ve got insurance that I’ve paid a lot for but as of Obamacare my doctor dropped accepting that insurance. . Everywhere I turn I have liberals starting trouble and expecting me to bail them out. With all respect to SE Cupp, those who don’t think about getting out of this Union are offensive. The thought of an independent state of Texas is looking more and more appealing.
@survivorseed Shadup!
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survivorseed
Jan. 17, 2013 at 1:45amHeres the funny part Libertarian, when I walk past an occupy Goldman Sachs protest and see all the IPhones and IPads in use, I suggest they go and occupy an apple store and I’m called a right wing nut. When I talk to a fellow atheist that bashes christianity and stands up for muslims and I call them a hypocrite, I am called a right wing nut. When I suggest to unemployed friends to get off there ass and find a job, I am called a right wing nut. Then I come here where its all about revolution, secession and end of times propaganda and suddenly I’m a raving left wing loony. I’m absolutely positive that there are more people in this country who would be happy to compromise with a little give and take in order to get back on track but as is always the way, the only people heard are the most extreme of either side. FYI the 2 people on the top of my list of people I would love to punch in the nose are Chris Matthews and Sean Hannity.
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MittensKittens
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:28amSums it up perfectly!
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VetMike
Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:48amAll good points. Add that most of the slave traders were from Massachusetts and many of the old money families in Boston made their fortunes on the Triangle Trade and the hypocrisy just keeps piling up. Then look at the history of the 14th Amendment and of the history of the Emancipation Proclamation. There are many other examples of the North’s ingrained hypocrisy but it is almost impossible to change the mind of a bigot.
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tommytruck
Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:27am@SurvivorSeed – They aren’t acting like uneducated spoiled children. They are actually trying to be as tolerant as they can possibly be. Upon initial inspection, seccession seems the better action than the alternative. The alternative being a fight – a real fight. Its amazing how you admire the violence of muslims over the peacable withdrawal of your fellow countrymen. You are a perfect example of either (1) being an imbecile (2) being intellectually dishonest or (3) being someone who actually loves vicious and violent behaviour. Perhaps its all three.
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:19amSurviorSeed.
I don’t know what possesed you to attack southerners in such a generlized way. Well, yes I do, its what you’ve been taught since childhood. Its a cycle of hatred that you have participated in and conditioned to believe. If you actually are a “right-winger” in your neck of the woods, then consider yourself conditioned to hate your potential allies. This is the reason folk north of the mason-dixon are programmed to demean us, to keep our actual similarities and agreements divided. Its worked for 180 years.
If you really want to know the difference between us:
We’re generally a “live and let live” people. You do your thing, I’ll do mine. Northern folk are “my way or the highway” oriented, and seek to force their view on everyone they associate. Its that “force” problem we’ve always disliked and reacted to. And, because the entirety of media is northern viewpoint controlled, we have these incurable polemics going on. Even the viewpoint on secession is an example, for us its a means to avoid incurable conflict peaceably – for you its a matter requiring instant force.
We’re patient enough to let a situation work itself out and prove whatever immutable truth is to be revealed. Northern folk are helplessly interventionist, in even the smallest matter, and disallow any truth to prove itself of its own volition. This creates multiple, unecessary failures along the way – and usually destroys others’ liberty in the process.
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BOUNCESoff
Jan. 17, 2013 at 12:58pmToure is spot on. But of course no Conservative would ever admit it. They are unable to own any fault
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Eastinfection
Jan. 17, 2013 at 1:45pmwelcome back BOUNCE..
long time no see.
Toure is NOT “spot on”.
He is, as i suspect you very well know, relying on generalizations & stereotypes.
It’s a chicken-shart argument.
He should hold himself to a higher standard, as should you.
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AvengerK
Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:57pmLOL…seriously ARCHIE? The formulations of a self professed “ANARCHIST” (your emphasis) are something that should be seen as accpetable and believable? What about “racist per capita” (ugh) in urban centers throughout the country with the growth of things like the Black Panthers, The Nation of Islam, violent black flash mobs, Black Liberation Theology, etcetera?
And to borrow from you….Which isn’t to say (sic) every urban black person is racist, any more than to say only black people are racist, but MORE urban black people are MORE racist per capita (please..the English language is begging for mercy from you ARCHIE) than non-urban black people.
You’re an idiot ARCHIE.
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Silvertruth
Jan. 17, 2013 at 3:31pmLook folks, this is all ‘divide and conquer’. See the smoke and mirrors for what they are. Southerners know they aren’t racist. I was in a restaurant in Texas recently and there were people of 4 different races there and they all interacted well, a table had people of dark and light skin color and they were having a good time together. There was no hint of racism.
Let me help everyone fight this created illusion. Remember that ANYTIME anyone calls some one else racist, it is THEY who are racist. They are dividing us by skin color, by ideology, by religion, by whatever they can to divide us. This makes their ideological minority more powerful.
This last election was the first one that can be shown to have had the divide and conquer strategy work to where the base vote actually made a difference. For a century, the independents in the middle were the group to win over, it failed to prove the course last election. A disparate series of divided groups were targeted with fear and falsehoods to overcome that independent difference and to marginalize the other sides base group.
It was masterful, and very, very evil. If you perpetuate any form of race baiting, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Grow up, realize that skin color is just that, skin color. The worth of a person is found by what they do in life.
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American_Made
Jan. 17, 2013 at 4:00pmAt least the south is not afraid to fight for what they believe in unlike the New York trash. They also have more than three brain cells like the race bater in this story.
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Red Meat
Jan. 17, 2013 at 4:42pmMSNBC is right.
Well, according to the new and evolved GOP they are.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/16/viewed-out-touch-gop-gathers-forces-plot-rebirth/
Join the Nationalist Party now!
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averageman
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:19pmright on. glad to be a new southerner.
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survivorseed
Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:38pmLib. “I don’t know what possessed you to attack southerners in such a generalized way”. Firstly, my comment was aimed as secessioners and you tied it in with all southerners so you must be feeling guilty. Secondly you just went on to do the exact same thing you were complaining about, making sweeping generalisations about the north and the south and my upbringing. You don’t know me but if you did, you would like me, everybody does.
Finally, you are “live and let live people” and I suppose that is the reason why you support a womans right to choose or you don’t mind same sex relationships. After all, they are not affecting you in any way, shape or form. A rattlesnake couldn’t give a dam if the warthog just destroyed all the male cubs in the litter as long as they didn’t come after him.
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LookTowardsTheLight
Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:53pm@survivorseed
Hey jack @$$, take your religion bashing and hate speech to the forums of the Huffington Post. Maybe if you actually read less talking points and atheist propaganda, you may actually discover your soul and what God means in American lives.
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UnreconstructedLibertarian
Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:10amSurviorseed,
You are right, I did make “broad” generalizations that impose traits on a whole demographic. You continue to do so yourself. So consider this whole exchange the perfect example of the problem, provocation and reaction.
As far as gay “relationships” are concerned, I assume you are talking about legal marriage? The vast majority of us down here don’t believe the gov should have any function in marriage. The whole concept of “legal” marriage is rediculous and should never have been a function of government at all – at any level. A marriage “ceremony” is just that, a ceremony. No different than a baptism or any other cultural function.
The real issue is the creation of another subset of special rights to a discriminatory sector of the population. Gay rights serve no purpose but to discriminate against non-gays and destroy the natural right of “freedom of association”. I absolutely detest the notion that I have to consider any sexual orientation, ethnicity, or any other personal attribute aside from the attribute necessary to the reason I (and/or they) want to associate.
I’m sure it shocks you that I have gay friends. The purpose of our association is a love of classic automobiles. They are in a “relationship” that I have no problem with, neither of us FORCE the issues of disagreement on the other – therefore we get along just fine.
Abortion is the denial of the most basic human right – the right to life.
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sharkee
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:57pmIT IS NOT ABOUT RACE WHAT SO EVER… IT IS ABOUT THEM RAMMING THEIR LAWS and BELIEFS down our throats. I think OBAMA did wonders bringing white & black together, but this RACE CARD is AGAIN being used to TEAR US APART. Tx., Wy.,or UT. is looking better these days. Living in ILLINIOS is just that POLICE STATE where the CONSERVATIVE have no say .
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LakeHartwellSailor
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:52pmWhile I agree with most of your statement, I don’t think Obama has done a thing to bring whites and blacks closer together. I find the Democratic Party is hugely racist; yet Obama has done nothing to encourage his party to reign back their use of the race card.
By Obamas silence, he is actually encouraging it without getting his hands dirty.
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dwilco77
Jan. 16, 2013 at 11:18pm@ SHARKEE
Could you please give one example where Obama did something to bring Blacks and Whites together. I must have missed that one moment. I for one am distressed as I see 200+ years of improvement in race relations, further apart now, than ever. It has been a slow process, but has been continually positive up until 4 years ago. There are numerous examples of Obama and his minions playing the race card beginning with “the police acted stupidly” with many more examples to follow. Not only has he played the race card, he has encouraged class warfare, and a further separation of agreement between the Left, and the right. I never remember seeing this country divided into so many factions.
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DoOrDie
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:56pmDamn, you can’t even pass gas anymore without being racist. The first three years of the Obama presidency, it really pissed me off, but now I find it funny. It is so apparent that black people are more racist than whites these days. They are brainwashed by the liberals to believe that we are the enemy. Toure is a POS no matter what color he is. These liberals are pushing for segregation at this point. Calling all whites racist for no reason is pitting whites against blacks. I don’t understand why they think this is healthy for this country, unless they want to start a civil war. All any Constitution loving American wants is for everyone to work hard, support yourself and your family, and abide by the law.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:54pmAmen, brother.
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ginger100
Jan. 16, 2013 at 11:03pm@doordie
that’s it, having a civil war would take care of two birds with one stone. by reducing the population dramatically and getting rid of the Constitution.
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team1blazer
Jan. 17, 2013 at 3:45pm@ginger100 And what would you replace the constitution with? Seriously, are you so smart as to have a better plan, or are you so ignorant that you didn’t think about it?
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ExtremeRight
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:56pmEXCUSE ME.. I thought i had freedom of speech, expression and association. If I want to be a racist that is my right… Thank You
I DEMAND FREEDOM TO THINK FOR MYSELF AND A BE A RACIST IF I WANT TO !
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sensibleadult
Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:13pmThe fact that the north had more ammo and supplies than the south doesn’t mean their cause was right.
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Metallicat
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:53pmI dont mind being in a country run by a black man as long as he is not a muslim sympathizing,anti american,constitution shredding activist of progessive liberal radical extremists. Someone like that I see as an enemy of the state.
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BODYBAG
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:00pmHe’s NOT BLACK.
I am a racist.
I hate his white half.
That also makes me PC popular since hating whitey is now in vogue.
That also gives me self-hatred.
Im afraid that without all these people labeling me I would lose my identity
and forget who I really am.
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GUYFROMMAINE
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:51pmFrom the Civil War perspective, I am strongly Union blue. From the petitions for secession today, I am not necessarily against these people. From what I’ve read, these people want the America of old, less government and more freedom. That is the same thing I want. However, opting for secession raises some serious thoughts. Are these people really willing to take up arms against their former fellow Americans, because it could come to that? As far as this guy goes, his reasoning and words are a joke. This has nothing to do with Obama’s skin color. It has to do with his destructive and transforming policies.
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rp454
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:24pmWe are not at all interested in taking up arms against fellow Americans. We are sick of what this country is becoming and the secession talk gives voice to that frustration.
– Robert from Texas
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BODYBAG
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:24pm@GUYFROMMAINE
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 5:51pm
From the Civil War perspective, I am strongly Union blue. From the petitions for secession today, I am not necessarily against these people. From what I’ve read, these people want the America of old, less government and more freedom. That is the same thing I want. However, opting for secession raises some serious thoughts. Are these people really willing to take up arms against their former fellow Americans, because it could come to that?
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Good thought provoking post.
Phrasing it as “people want the America of old” is the first issue. This isnt nostalgic yearning. These people want to preserve their God-given rights —– rights that have been slowly stripped away.
“Are these people really willing to take up arms against their former fellow Americans?”
Thats a really important question that deserves serious thought. It essentially boils down to this:
In the time of the Revolution there were British sympathizers who lived amongst us. Those were individuals that would fit your classification of “former fellow Americans”. They were traitors. Anyone who stands in the way of FREEDOM or is opposed to the Constitution and Bill Of Rights is considered the enemy. You need to be crystal clear in what you believe and which side you’re on.
“Choose ye this day whom ye will serve”
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BODYBAG
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:38pm@RP454
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 6:24pm
We are not at all interested in taking up arms against fellow Americans. We are sick of what this country is becoming and the secession talk gives voice to that frustration.
– Robert from Texas
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A Demand without an enforcement mechanism is worthless.
If all you’re doing is “giving voice to frustration” then you’re wasting your time.
If you arent willing to take up arms against those who would enslave you then why
not just put the chains on voluntarily?
“Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
– Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788
“If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
– Samuel Adams
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ExtremeRight
Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:03pmPeople have a right to self determination. No matter what century. The south was subjugated and its people forced to something against their wishes.
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phil1765
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:54amSecession does not have to involve taking up arms. Texas even has the right to peaceful secession in our Constitution. I have never heard anyone on the secession side say anything about going to war to acheive it.
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GUYFROMMAINE
Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:09amInteresting posts,
@Bodybag
Not saying you are wrong with what you said about British sympathizers, but I cannot look at all Americans who do not agree with our views of America as traitors. As far as choosing a side goes, here is one side. As someone who believes in God and His Word, there had better be a good reason for taking another person’s life, and a hypothically war over secession casts grave doubts in my mind for doing it. Potentially sending someone to Hell because of a different view of government is sobering to me. Also, because I believe we are in the end times and heading for a one world government(as, for example, Revelation talks about), personal freedoms and liberties are going to be a thing of the past. Not saying this to get in a big debate, just some of my reasons.
For the others, I am not saying you want to go to war, just saying it may not be out of the realm of possibility. Can’t believe this President,or even the other governments of the world, would allow this without some sort of fight.
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Zwolle
Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:49amBody Bag – “If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
– Samuel Adams
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My favorite quote of all time!! I have a flag with that quote on it.
Z
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YOURSENSEI
Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:38amMr os Mr BODY BAG,
This is what you must know:
If the type is really itty bitty you could fit all that on a T-shirt. And what a T-shirt it would be!
it is so.
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AvengerK
Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:46pmYOURSENSEI/WANGO/PANTLOADIAN/GLENNDA/MONICNE/ENCINOM/KREGNEVA/ad nauseum…the only thing that’s “itty bitty” on these boards is your stature and intellect.
Did you remember to wipe your arse though? You never answered.
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1Haole_Boy
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:51pmHO!! DA BIG DIFFERENCE I SEE IN YOU SINCE YESTERDAY EH S.E. CUPP?
SECESSION IS BIG HERE IN HAWAII!
__Never let the elite progressives see you sweat. “Cool Head Main Thing” and “you get ‘em” S.E. sweethert!!
__The soft facial demeanor and the focused cool head will make these deceptive, sly-dog, misleading control freaks become absolutely un-glued…….and you will have greater command of any discussion.
–Let this guy Toure get all unglued because it is the mean spirited left’s nomal character portrayal (STINK FACE, STINK MOUTH AND STINK EYE). These rascals actually think that they are better than you! Let them make the bad example with a perceptable mean spirited demeanor.
__This guy is another example of how the fallacy of the straw-man mischaracterization of both people and ideas are shamelessly interjected into any disagreement that the left may have with their detracters. These rascals must shamelessly win any debate with Libertarians and Conservatives even if they have to lie, deceive and mislead.
__Smile, like you have been, and explain to this LOLO the error of the fallacies he employs. Let these rascals set the bad example of incivility. An object lesson sticks in ones mind more than clever, deceitful and misleading conversation.
__I am a haole, married to a pake’ who hangs out with Hawaiians who are tea-party activists who support the Hawaii petition to secede from Obama’s Amerika…..there goes the Southern Racist ******* myth about secession!
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WilliamCustisBuffington
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:07pmYOUNG’N, I’D LIKE TO THANK YOU THERE SON.
Yeee-haaaaaaaa! Hawaiians as well as Hillbillies, Crackers, and Blacks like Col. West are also fearing loss of freedom and are willing to secede. The lies about why we are trying to save our liberty from these yahoos I do reckon will be exposed by non-white brothers and sisters in the Tea Party movement like y’all in Hawaii. Keep in touch Hawaii, we stand with y’all as comrades in the faith for liberty.
Billy Cus, West Virginia
Montani Semper Liberi (Mountaineers are Always Free)
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Kumo
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:48pmTouré? LOL him and the other tough talking and lying liberals can go shove it. Project Veritas did an excellent job on exposing how these folks really think. Have a gander at this video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA
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SageInWaiting
Jan. 16, 2013 at 8:07pmRacist? Who remembers the outrage when the FEDs desegregated the Boston schools? It was OK that that was done to the redneck bigots in the south but get out of OUR schools. I’m tired of all this “racist” crap… I look at the qualities of a person’s “heart”, not their skin color.
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RevDev
Jan. 16, 2013 at 11:29pmExcellent Link, thank you Kumo!
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John.Galt
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:47pmUhh, weren’t there something like ALL 50 STATES HAD PETITIONS TO SECEDE?
So, to the average liberal, I guess there are 50 states in the south… the other 10 are in the north…
(Obama 2008: “I’ve been to 57 states… 2 more to go.”)
YES LIBERALS ARE THAT DUMB.
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MisterSarcastic
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:47pmAmerican by birth. Southern by the grace of God.
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Free_Thought
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:52pmGod does have a sick sense of humour i must admit.
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MisterSarcastic
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:08pmFree. You should have your mom buy you a new light bulb for the basement. Things look a lot different with the light on.
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LakeHartwellSailor
Jan. 16, 2013 at 7:05pmAmerican by the Grace of God…..Southern by Choice!
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LeadNotFollow
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:35pmSoutherners seem to be the only people who have any morals and common sense these days.
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Free_Thought
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:54pmBwahahahahaha. Stop!!! Stop!!!!’ Bwahahahahaha!!!!! Screw the globes. You just won beat comesic performance right there. Southerners are the only ones…. Bwahahahahahaha!!! Mississippi has common sense. Alabama has common sense. Bwahahahahaha!!!!!! The south is the most backwards place in america. The only place you can count the population by the number of teeth.
Mutiny
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:50pm@free
I am betting you have never been to either.
http://www.popcrunch.com/hottest-student-bodies-ole-miss/
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desert buckeye
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:32pmFace it. Liberals are crazy. Something in their DNA is amiss!
I’m not offended by talk of secession. I’m offended by the thought that I should just shut up and live under an oppressive government that is not responsive to the people. I no longer wish to live amongst people who do not share the American ideals of freedom, limited FEDERAL government and low taxation…
I’m offended by a president who says that “at some point, you’ve made enough money.” Really?!!!
Given that money is nothing more than a measure of the goods and services you’ve provided to your fellow man, I don’t see how you can ever make enough. People trade their dollars (freely) to acquire the “stuff” you are giving them or doing, for them, in trade. Then…what would a Marxist know about such things?
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TEXASGRANNY73
Jan. 16, 2013 at 6:08pmThe guy in the video who I’ve never heard of in his criticism of we Texans and other states alluded to as seceding called America Obama’s America. And guess he didn’t hear or read today about the sheriff in Oregon. And the town in Utah. I don’t believe in secession either but those who signed the petition had a perfect right to express an opinion anyway and whose to say what anyone will do if push comes to shove. I abhor racism and bigotry of any persuasion and it seemed to me Joe Biden was the “anointed one” who came up with the brilliant hotshot ideas. Last I noticed he isn’t pretty but he is white. God, now I’m going to have to hate my race, woe is me. Quack quack quack.
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AllPeopleFreePeople
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:31pmObama’s has been surrounded his whole life by communists. his mother, his mentor his college professors, his pastor, even people in his administration..
People do not oppose him because he’s black… It’s because he’s RED!!
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deiernhart8
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:29pmNews flash! ALL 50 states signed one!
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moreteaplease
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:25pmJRook
Posted on January 16, 2013 at 5:02pm
“With this type of pose it becomes more and more obvious that S E Cupp is not to be taken seriously.”
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Much like your posts.
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moreteaplease
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:24pmIt’s sickening to watch ol’e bass face try to sound intelligent.
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stopprintn
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:24pmOff topic; Glenn had this posted on twitter, talks with father from Sandy Hook.
http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/01/16/sandy-hook-student%E2%80%99s-dad-calls-in-to-dispel-conspiracy-theories/
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:28pmIt was on his radio show this morning too.
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jcldwl
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:45pmBut who actually did the killing. Who was it the police chased down out side the school and why did they have to chase them down? Why did the father of one of the girls that died come out laughing right before he gave a statement that prior to the statement he had to hyper ventilate to appear to cry and then his daughter that was supposedly killed showed up in a picture with Obama two days later? And so many more unanswered questions. Yes we feel sorry for the families and the loss it is horrific but should we just sit back and ignore the discrepancies? There is nothing heartless about wanting the truth. If you choose to ignore the discrepancies and unanswered questions that is your choice.
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AGreyGhost
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:15pmON YANKEES AND DIXIELAND: ‘No lie, the average Yankee knows as much about the South as a hog knows about the Lord’s plan of salvation.’-William Price Fox
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Eastinfection
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:59pmno doubt about that.
i’ve lived in North Carolina for the last 15 years but while growing up in the North East i was under the impression that the South was populated solely by backwards racists.
i found out quickly that Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Jersey are more racist than any place i’ve been in the South.
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freedomisasfreedomdoes
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:12pmThank you S.E. Cupp for attempting to battle stupidity with reason. Although the individuals you attempt to reason with, lack the ability to appreciate or understand it.
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eat-more-bacon-USA
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:12pmWhen are the results of Touré’s gender test going to be released to the public?
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moreteaplease
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:28pmIt has them still scratching their heads.
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biohazard23
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:10pmUh, didn’t they get secession petitions from all 50 states? (57 if you’re dear leader)
How does that single out the South as being the only ones who don’t want to be under Boy Wonder’s boot, Toure? Twit.
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Eastinfection
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:07pmMSNBC obviously manufactures and freely distributes their own very special recipe of Kool-Aid. Drink up, sheeple, drink up.
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DeVain
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:06pmI support Condy Rice, Herman Cain, Allen West, and Mia Love. I would vote for any of them over a WHITE liberal anytime.
It’s policy, not race.
The only people I see hung up on race are the liberals.
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elosogrande
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:04pmSouthern people used to be racist and, for the most part, Democrats. The Republicans moved the far-left, racist southern Democrats out of the south decades ago. If “Toure” knew his ass from first base, he would know that blacks and whites get along far better in the south than they do north of The Mason-Dixon Line.
By the way, people with only one name often turn out to be phonies, and stupid ones at that.
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biohazard23
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:12pmSee: Cher, Madonna, Bono, Sting, Beyonce…
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JRook
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:02pmWith this type of pose it becomes more and more obvious that S E Cupp is not to be taken seriously. Besides isn’t she under contract with Hustler now.
RANGER1965
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:12pmWow, your host of amazing insights just gets better and better. It’s obvious that someone of your intelligence doesn’t belong here on the Blaze, but should instead occupy an important post on the President’s cabinet. You should look into it. Seriously.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:15pmJCROOK! Dang, haven’t see the results of you dragging those hairy knuckles across your keyboard in a while. As usual, you prove yourself to be that simpleton liberal dumbass that we have all come to know and expect. Just pull that race card from your complete deck of race cards and agree with Tourette when you can’t actually think of something original to say.
Oh yeah, as usual you also wrong about SE Cupp, she has a lawsuit going against Hustler. But, I suppose that you only wish that you were right.
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DZ-015
Jan. 16, 2013 at 5:20pmOOK, Jr: Your humor gives all cavemen a bad name.
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VetMike
Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:50amClearly you have nothing constructive to add as all you can mange is an ad hominum attack.
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AvengerK
Jan. 17, 2013 at 2:25pmYou know JCROOK…you lefties are so marinated and steeped in your hatred and prejudices of anyone that doesn’t adhere to your Stepford Wife-esque ideology that you gleefully objectify, denigrate and demean women who display bigger b@lls than you- without even the slightest hesitation. Yet you believe there’s a war on women by their side. Hasn’t Media Matters made up your mind for you yet?
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