NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg seemed to tip his hand in a Thursday morning interview with CBS: In his mind, it’s not just about how people may use guns and stopping criminals from getting guns, it’s that there’s just too many guns in this country.

“The bottom line is there’s too many guns,” he told CBS “This Morning’s” Charlie Rose. In fact, Bloomberg earlier noted that it’s no longer about how one might use a gun on someone else, but that the problem extends to people using firearms to take their own life.

“Keep in mind, there are 33 people killed with handguns each day, and more people die from suicide with handguns than even get killed,” he said, raising his finger for emphasis.

Bloomberg also called the NRA’s recent ad “dumb PR” and said “you really have to be stupid to do that.” The ad called out officials who send their children to schools with armed guards but have opposed the NRA’s call to do so across the country.

Fellow CBS host Nora O’Donnell then threw him a softball as he piled on the organization: “Does the NRA represent gun owners or gun manufacturers?”

Not surprisingly, the mayor chose the latter. Watch it all below:

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