President Barack Obama on Wednesday surrounded himself with young children as he advanced new gun control proposals via executive orders, prompting conservatives to accuse him of exploiting children and stirring up emotions to further his agenda.
Appearing on CNN Thursday, TheBlaze’s Will Cain argued that there is no place for “emotionalism” when drafting significant legislation, especially when it involves little kids who are not old enough to grasp all the implications of a complex issue like gun control. What needs to occur instead, is a rational debate about guns and violence, he said.

WASHINGTON, DC – JANUARY 16: U.S. President Barack Obama signs a series of executive orders about the administration’s new gun law proposals as children who wrote letters to the White House about gun violence, (L-R) Hinna Zeejah, Taejah Goode, Julia Stokes and Grant Fritz, look on in the Eisenhower Executive Office building, on January 16, 2012 in Washington, DC. One month after a massacre that left 20 school children and 6 adults dead in Newtown, Connecticut, the president unveiled a package of gun control proposals that include universal background checks and bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Credit: Getty Images
“I cannot find an ounce of appropriateness in this,” Cain said. “I find it despicable. I find it stomach-churning.”
He continued: “It’s impugning the motives of anyone who disagrees with him. It’s draping yourself in the emotionalism of the debate, avoiding an intellectual debate, avoiding the policy debate and impugning those who disagree with you.”
According to Cain, Obama’s handling of the gun issue shows “the inherent intellectual weakness in the argument that is being put forward.”
CNN host Carol Costello said sometimes emotion is needed to “get the argument going, to get people talking about it because not everybody wants to.”
Emotion has no place in a serious policy debate, Cain rebutted, “because emotion doesn’t encourage debate — it shuts it down.”
“When the president is doing that, that’s exactly what he’s encouraging,” Cain added. “He’s encouraging you to feel your way through this debate – not think. Because everyone of these proposals…[will] not positively affect gun violence in the United States.
Mediaite’s Noah Rothman agrees with Cain:
Displaying children at signing events is a device intended to inject emotionality into a political argument, and there is no more formidable obstacle to devising and implementing shrewd and targeted public policy than the self-important urgency of emotionality. Indignation and agitation do not suffice for an argument. There was a time not long ago when the American public and its journalists applauded deliberation and rationality in response to “the fierce urgency of now.”
During the debate, Democratic strategist Maria Cardona accused the NRA of exploiting President Obama’s children in a new ad, which labels Obama an “elitist hypocrite.” She called the ad “despicable.”
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marybethelizabeth
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:18pmI don’t know how to characterize the fabrication that theblaze is participating in telling people that curtailing the manufacturing of a few gun models is really gun confiscation, and having people actually believe that is true.
While it is wrong to lie, some of the blame must fall on the gullible who know they have been lied to repeatedly yet come back for more.
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DarkJello
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:46pm“While it is wrong to lie, some of the blame must fall on the gullible who know they have been lied to repeatedly yet come back for more.”
@Mary:
Those gullible souls include the “47%”, among others. Way too many masterful liars in gooberment, from Obama on down. Obviously repubs and regressives alike.
These laws will further weaken the ability to defend oneself from criminals. A rampaging killer will NOT follow the law–by definition. No lives will be saved. But innocent lives WILL be lost because of our ever more tyrannical gooberment.
I love America, I fear my government!
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:51pmBARYMETH: I assume that the gullible whom you describe as those ” who have been lied to repeatedly and come back for more ” are the idiots who gave Barack Obama and the Chicago radicals another four years to destroy American capitalism .”
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honeydijon13
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:18pmYou are absolutely correct.
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marybethelizabeth
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:25pmThen you would be wrong. I know you are used to listening to Glenn Beck who is constantly engaged in double speak and often changes his topics mid sentence. Listening to Glenn Beck may be why you are easily confused.
I was referring to the gullible who believe that the prohibition of the manufacturing of a few gun models is really gun confiscation. Just like it says above. No hidden meanings. No hidden agenda. Just plain talk.
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brother_ed
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:36pm@MARYBETHELIZABETH
What you say may be true, but the point if the argument is, which weapons are they denying us and what impact will that have?
I, and most people on here, would contend that it will make no difference.
These actions will not prevent another Sandy Hook, or Columbine, or any of the others.
The data isn’t there…but there is no room for data in an emotional argument.
The next time there is an event, and there will be, that will provide an excuse for tougher gun control measures. When that wont fix it, and it won’t, the next event will be an excuse for even tougher measures.
This is not about protecting children, or else they would focus on gang violence on Chicago. This is about disarming America.
It is reminiscent of “you have to iAds it to see what’s in it.”
This regime likes to use emotion and quickly pass legislation (or executive orders), and by then it’s too late.
Surely you understand that if a position has merit, like a fine wine it will age nicely.
This is a Boones Farm argument – they know it and you know it!
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Zipit
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:45pmMARYMETH! The agenda is confiscation!!!!! It will take a while. If you just chip away at it a little at a time! See, “how to cook a frog!” Ain’t gonna be that easy! Get used to it……..
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bobfrommosinee
Jan. 17, 2013 at 9:13pmHave you read the statements of democrats over the years, They tell anyone who will listen, That if it take banning one type of firearm at a time to accomplish removing guns from our society they will do it one gun at a time.
This is how England ended up with guns being banned from possession by the Law Abiding Subject, and England’s Olympic shooting team having to go to France to do live fire training.
It also has given England a crime rate of 1,157.7 crimes per 100,000 people, compared with 714.4 for the US, and was worse than Slovenia (902.9), the Czech Republic (523.3), and Turkey (216.9).
The figures also showed England and Wales had a worse robbery rate (188.7 per 100,000) than the US (146.4), Poland (92.2), Slovenia (31.5) and Turkey (28.5).
And the last reported year on murders, 2011 shows the Murder rate rose 5% that year.
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DYNA
Jan. 17, 2013 at 10:21pm@marybethelizabeth
It is more than the magnitude or type of guns they want to further reduce, it is the abuse of power in doing so. Their lust for power and influence is not satiated.
A spiritual parallel would be like making a deal with the devil thinking that he will leave you alone for doing so. Concessions only lead to oppression.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:39amThank you Mary! very well put!
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M24
Jan. 18, 2013 at 6:28amThe Ban On ANY GUN Is A Direct Violation Of The second amendment Right To Bear Arms, If The Govt. can take away one type of Gun ,then It’s just the Stroke Of A Pen To Take Away Any Gun .
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naughtycal
Jan. 18, 2013 at 8:53amMarymeth,
They’re called progressives for a reason.You know and EVERYONE else knows it including Actual Americans this is the first move of a bigger scheme. You and the rest of the socialist mindslaves are an A DOMESTIC ENEMY of the Constitution and the Republic at large. The sooner Conservative and their representatives realize this and start treating you as such the faster this country will adress the problem and rebuild what you and your ilk have destroyed.
If you think it won’t happen look around the world countries are sliding into civil wars across the globe.
You push enough and even the most Christian Conservative in the country will eventually have enough and start pushing the progressive socialist and once it starts it won’t stop until you’re totally destroyed or exiled from our shores.
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mrunner
Jan. 18, 2013 at 9:37amI will listen to the points of creatins like kitten33, merrymeth and Rat Bastard Obama when they stop emotionally supporting both sides of an argument depnding on what the crisis is. RBO 5 years ago was saying it was immoral and “unpatriotic” to raise the debt limit, now it is irresponsible to not raise it. He and his mouthpieces proclaimed loudly that Obamacare was not a “tax” – then went into the Supreme Court and argued that it is a “tax”. I could roll on with the examples, but would probably fry my keyboard with all the hypocrisy…
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StandingOnMyHead
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:13pmMary: your comment tells me you know very little to nothing about guns. There is no such thing as a 7 round magazine, even for handguns and the majority of handguns use 15 round magazines. Thus, do the math, these new “laws” and “executive orders” make the majority of handguns illegal as well as the “assault rifle” which in and of itself is any rifle by that definition alone. Therefore, it is the politicians that are the ones doing the “double talk” and the “curtailing… of a few gun models is really gun confiscation”
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ABO
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:07pmyou sir are a real ASS
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DarkJello
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:49pmEnlighten, please.
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KingCanon
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:06pmUse kids to be just as somber about debt.
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grimmster
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:06pm@tont aka encinom.
You are so funny,whats the matter afraid to come up from moms basement cuz you be scared of the outside world? F-n tool….
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EPROM
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:05pmIf someone breaks in my home …I will be alive. If someone breaks into your home …you will be just another “victim”. …..All the Glenn Beck and “right wing” bashing in the world won’t change that fact!
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:44pmsomeone in your home is more likely to be shot and possibly killed than that the gun will be used to thwart a home invasion.
http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/05/will-your-gun-help-you-in-the/
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mallardkiller
Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:06pm“someone in your home is more likely to be shot and possibly killed than that the gun will be used to thwart a home invasion.”
Well no kidding. As opposed to what a home without a firearm? Everything involves risk. Your toaster could burn down your house tomorrow, better get rid of it.
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mallardkiller
Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:16pmYou also can’t tell me that you seriously put forth that argument from that blog. The guy is using news papers articles about 2 specific crimes as evidence. That is hardly a trend. Do not let your emotions get the best of you, think for yourself.
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missdagnytaggart
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:08amKeaton-
I imagine someone is more likely to be shot by a gun in their own home than kill an intruder because its called SUICIDE. People use their own guns to commit suicide every day.
Hows the koolaid tasting pal?
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kentuck
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:05pmYou were a waste of a good climax … or did YOUR mommy not get off with rover when you were conceived ?
The EPA said you’re wasting good oxygen ….
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kentuck
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:09pmWell crap! that took off his post … boo hoo
Ignore my above reply … you missed it.
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:04pmFeel better ??
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:10pmThe radical’s want some one to do some thing so they can bring the hammer down. All of them are spewing their crap now…http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/17/former-obama-czar-van-jones-accuses-nra-of-wanting-to-shoot-cops-and-soldiers-treason/
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:59pmCIVIL: I agree. From their actions and the baiting Troll comments we get here, I think they are hoping that something will happen so that they can declare Martial Law. The Chicago radicals are a dangerous and determined gang.
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jlancecombs
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:04pmAnd you lefties have yet to prove that limiting us from having whatever guns we want actually make us safer.
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Silvertruth
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:02pmSo you can’t win your argument with logic, you resort to hyperbole, gutter attacks, and raw emotion. Typical.
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EPROM
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:55pmI think whatever new laws affecting gun ownership should be directly applied to the Movie, Video Game and Book industries as well.
(1) No more “Assault Action Movies”. No movie shall have a person shooting more than seven rounds and no large capacity magazines shall be shown.
(2) Any “Assault Action Movie” shall be scripted depicting an AR-15 or any other assault weapon
(3) All “Assault Video Games” depicting guns and gun violence shall have a 7 round limit and only one magazine can be used by the video game user.
(4) Any :Assault Novels” describing the use of an AR-15, a shooter, or writings regarding a firearm shooting rounds must limit such action to seven (7) rounds or less.
(5) Anyone downloading or purchasing an “Assault Video Game” must agree to a complete background check and psychological review.
(6) Anyone wishing to download or purchase an “Assault Novel” must agree to a complete and thorough background check and psychological evaluation.
(7) Anyone purchasing an “Assault Movie”, “Assault Book” or Assault Video Game” will be placed on a U.S. Government database for future reference and psychological review.
….I wonder how the “1st Amendment” defending left-wing authors and movie directors would like this?
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kentuck
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:17pmYou wont see much done to the movies , remember big O gets to much money from hollyweird to throw a monkey wrench into the works. He knows who lines his pockets like that traitor from Kentucky that raised all that $$ for his re-election.
George I’d advise you NOT to go home for a family reunion , KY is fed up !
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DarkJello
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:55pmI love “assault movies”, so even though they are lefties I hope the wicked, smart movies continue to pour forth. The problem is that so many kids and teens–with developing, plastic, impressionable brains–are seeing all of this stuff. With a warped vision of reality, is it any wonder they are going off the deep end more and more.
Gonna get me that 5th Assassin book, as I find the topic of “evil” fascinating.
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taxpro4u03
Jan. 17, 2013 at 8:28pmMiss the Bud frog commercials and the Marlboro man too — Can’t legislate morality — the next ‘system’ to be overwhelmed may be the judiciary — IF they can clear enough docket space. – Without merit and frivolous dismissals will become a thing of he past once people opt for a jury trial over ‘Summary Judgement,’ — Nullification works…. Not gonna make ‘em happy — That’s what did “Prohibition” in after 9 years — back then it was all ‘alcohol consumption’ causing all the family and societal upheavls — time will tell… Lunacy is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
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Tiberius
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:51pmplease go to http://youtu.be/hchn4GF6uvM
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Vickie Dhaene
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:50pmThis man is souless.
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:58pmYou have no idea how evil this POS is. Now he’s daring some one to do some thing.. http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/17/obama-and-biden-to-tour-the-country-to-rally-support-for-gun-crackdown/
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team1blazer
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:44pmHow would banning “assault weapons” have any effect on the latest school shooting, when the “assault weapon” was never taken out of the trunk of the car? The whole argument currently being debated is based on false premis and misinformation. It’s time to start holding the media accountable for their false narative.
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wordsofwisdom
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:44pmThis is ridiculous! The idea that this admin. is interested in gun control as a benefit to the children is again I say ridicules! They are only interested in exploiting a tragedy in their efforts to take total control of YOU! This kind of exploitation is a display of their inner thought process. They march to the beat of a different drum. They are dividing us on purpose. Because it leads to destruction. This song explains the problem we have “Diversity” http://www.reverbnation.com/open_graph/song/11826046
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wwolfwp
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:43pmActually we are looking at this the wrong way…Obama has been getting his advice from Biden, Hillary, Nancy, and Harry etcetera. It is the only logical conclusion that he would look for a more mature group such as eight and ten year olds for advice now. They are still wrong and the Political Pedophile Obama should be ashamed for using them…but he really doesn’t give a damn. In the end they will be disgarded as all of his tools usually are. Or should we say they will be “aborted” he does care for children so!
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:42pmQuit and refuse to play these communist game’s. The 2nd Amendment say’s no you can not do that end of story end of discussion.
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Larry E
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:35pmThe left can’t win an honest fact based debate on gun control or most other things. All they have is emotions and cranking up the volume, I’m louder than you so I win, facts are to be ignored completely.
The ’94 AWB which expired in ’04 did nothing at all to reduce crime or the rate of murders, which were already going down in ’94 and kept going down after it expired in ’04 but the progresso-commies want to disarm the people. Regardless of what they say to the contrary. They’re liars and scoundrels at the very best.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:50pmThe murder rate dropped in 95 and continued to drop until 2005 where it jumped up again by nearly a thousand. http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm but its not just about an assault weapons ban. Its all the other stuff thats important. giving the ATF back their power, mandatory background checks and making gun dealers keep inventory and records. thats whats really important
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00100111
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:39pmOh Keatie, you’re so cute when you believe fabricated statistics. Go back to fapping to Obama’s speech.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:41amWait the disaster center database is fabricated? haha
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Keatonc33
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:42amI am pretty cute though
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rickinpa
Jan. 18, 2013 at 10:12am“giving the ATF back their power, mandatory background checks and making gun dealers keep inventory and records. thats whats really important”
Giving the govt power over the poeple is what it’s about at least you admit it, it’s not about saving any children’s lives as the administration admits these regulations would not have prevented the tragedy.
So from what you just said to you the important part is being able to trace back the origin of the gun sale not preventing any murder? At least we know where you stand. By the way did you catch the article where Biden told the NRA this administration doesn’t have time to prosecute people who lied on their background check form?
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ginjit.dw
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:35pmHam as does the same thing which is to hide behind children being used as shields. The prevaricator in chief will use any prop, stoop to any level to portray the opposite of what he does. Despicable is too kind a word to describe him.
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FISH_BONE
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:33pmThese poor kids have no idea how much debt the moron at the table has placed on their backs.
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:43pmExcellent observation.
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thegreatcarnac
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:38pmIn reality…probably about 70 trillion dollars that we cannot….ever….pay off.
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gyro
Jan. 17, 2013 at 6:42pmFISH_BONE you have it WINNER
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h20sue
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:32pmI agree 100%. Using the children to push forth bills and screw American’s and our 2nd amendment is just enough to make you nausicated. Cain is dead on! “O” should be ashamed, but he isn’t. He’ll do anything to try to prove a point. Shame he doesn’t spend as much time finding JOBS for American’s and stop spending money! His Obama Care program and pork, will put all of us in jail as we can’t afford food, much less health care. I hope he reads these comments as writing the moron is a waste of good time. His administration only passes letters to him that are positive. They ignore our efforts and truthfulness.
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team1blazer
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:30pmObama is a sick, demented, power hungry thug, who will stoop to any level to achieve his agenda (agenda 21, new world order). His use of children to advance his unconstitutional policies is proof enough that he HATES America and the principles that it was founded on. Impeach this imposter NOW!
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:39pmhaha.. you think the conversation would be any different if the kids weren’t there?
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civilwarcometh
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:54pmKEAT: They have always used the kid’s. Of course your commie a$$ knew that already right? http://weaselzippers.us/2013/01/17/obama-not-the-first-gun-grabbing-tyrant-who-used-children-as-cheap-political-props/
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:55pmTEAM: The radicals tried to use Trayvon but they didn’t succeed. Remember the Hoodie campaign by Jesse and Al ? Remember the media carrying those pictures of YOUNG Trayvon for weeks ? The Obama Administration is riddled with an agenda. They will use anything to foist it on the gullible public. Children are excellent tools for that purpose ! Witness YOUNG Trayvon !
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Baerlin
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:00pmHey Keat – How about all those abortions? By my count, over 3,700 a day. That totals 55,000,000 since 1973. It’s all about the children
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 7:46pmBaerlin! How dare you use kids to try and make your abortion point! despicable!
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TH777
Jan. 17, 2013 at 11:27pm@Keaton33: You are so starved for attention. Oh, I’m sorry!, maybe you’re just starving for a brain. It’s truly sad when you don’t have one, huh? You’re so confused and you really wish you could think like an intelligent adult. I bet it’s been difficult for you. We all feel for you. Well, we’ll see what we can do. We’ll put an order in for a brain for you and maybe even a heart.. Would you like that?? I know we sure would.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:43amIf you have any extra courage please send it my way too!
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mrunner
Jan. 18, 2013 at 1:53pm@Keaton- The conversation probably would not have happened if the “the kids weren’t there”. Without using the kids as human shields and an emotional tool, he would not have made a move because he would have been pressed to present facts to back his actions. The facts are definitely NOT on his side in his little unconstitutional agenda. Regarding feigned righteous indignation at Baelins abortion comparison- must have struck a nerve. Murder by assault weapon, murder by forceps- either way a life is ended unjustly. It is not the fault of the gun, or the forceps- but the person pulling the trigger – or tearing flesh apart with forceps…
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The Truth Will Set You Free
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:25pmLove the comment “You’ll never see kids paraded at a Pro-Choice Rally.”
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Keatonc33
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:24pmwheres the outrage at the NRA for making an ill timed commercial about the fairness of your kids compared to the kids of the President?
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missdagnytaggart
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:12amI liked the NRAs commercial. They made a very good point. Obama’s kids are surrounded by armed guards and will be for years to come. My daughter is a sitting duck at a “gun free zone” every day thanks to leftist feel good policies.
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Jarhead 88
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:29amBad Keatty! So you think that Obama’s kids are more important than ours, right? That’s what you’re implying? I thought you liberals were for “fairness?”………..oh but he is above us right? We are HIS servants? Sorry chump, we are his employer, and he is our employee, he doesn’t think so, and that’s the problem.
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Keatonc33
Jan. 18, 2013 at 12:45amHey you all are the free market guys.. send your kids to a better school with guards then. Plus Being as one of Obama’s executive orders was aimed at guarding schools your, and the NRA’s argument kind of falls by the wayside.
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Abraham Young
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:24pmThat’s the gimmickry of politicians – they spurn rational thought and instead appeal to baser instincts.
Not very complimentary of those people he “governs” , he thinks we’re just a pack of animals to be manipulated.
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TotallyNotATroll
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:22pmWere the kids actually selected intentionally to show ethnic diversity too? Kind of looks like it. There is no obvious staging or emotional showmanship here…(looks slyly both ways)
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barber2
Jan. 17, 2013 at 5:42pmValerie probably planned and staged it. Has a woman’s touch…
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chicago76
Jan. 18, 2013 at 9:54amTyrants use children like hostages. Sympathy is their trade and is the tyrants mental weapon of first choice.
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