Here’s the New Pistol U.S. Marine Spec Ops Will Be Using in Combat
U.S. Marine Corps special operators will soon be outfitted with the Colt M45 Close Quarters Combat Pistol, marking the first time in nearly 30 years that Colt pistols will accompany Marines into combat.
Here’s some recent footage of the pistol from the 2013 SHOT show:
“There are orders for 10,000 Colt ‘M45 Close Quarters Battle Pistols’ to replace 4,000 aging [Springfield manufactured] M45′s in the Marine Special Operations Command (MARSOC),” Geoffrey Ingersoll writes for Business Insider.
“Marine special operators have been using the [Springfield] M45 since the 90s, while the general population of Marines have been using the 9 mm Beretta,” he adds.
So what do you think of Colt’s M45 Close Quarters Battle Pistols? Hot or not?
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FromtheSouth
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:59pmDid hey say that the retail was $1,995? For pistol that holds seven shots? How much is it if I don’t have a celebrity hand deliver it to me?
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jcldwl
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:14pmOne word: Fugly
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Elena2010
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:24pmWith .45 ACP, you ONLY need ONE. The other six are for show — LOL
Formerly, Marines carried .38′s until confronted by opium driven fighters in the Boxer Rebellion. A .38 did not stop them. So, the Colt .45 came to the battlefield. Small hole in, BIG hole out, dropped the fighter no matter what he was on.
The downside to the .45 is missing. It has a good kick that takes it off target, so you do have to realign your sights before the 2nd shot. Not so w/the 9mm, which also was standard in NATO, simplifying supply betw countries.
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FreedomPurveyor
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:26pmHow many rounds do you expect a .45 to hold? Anyway, it’s legal in New York!
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Fubared
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:31pmElena
Well said. The 9mm was designed to wound, and does. Modern ammo has brought it up a bit, but nothing compares to a .45 in the right hands. This piece will be welcomed to their armory.
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Wolf
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:50pmYah, right, Alena… ROFLMBO- ignorance knows no bounds.
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TH30PH1LUS
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:06pmI was at Shot Show, COLT had a fantastic display area setup. Regarding the 1911, it had remained relatively unchanged because it’s hard to improve the design. My buddy was issued a 9mm – it did not stop an attacking insurgent in the heat of combat even when hit center mass. Fortunately a rifle in the hands of another Marine was at the ready.
The .45 is a powerful round that will put down the threat. Thanks, COLT for making a beautiful sidearm for the Few & the Proud.
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Ishmot2
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:16pmELENA2010
Even a girl like yourself can shoot a gun like this, you just need to be taught by the right instructor, any cowboy action you get is you doing it by yourself.
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Bub47
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:16pmDublin: “No other caliber can boast this statement.” How about a GP100 .357 long barrel – but then this is a revolver. I prefer the 14 round (13+1) Springfield XD .45 5″. The extra length allows the round to get up more speed with less recoil. Find a nasty ammo round (Federal Premium Personal Defense Ammunition 45 ACP 230 Grain Hydra-Shok Jacketed’) and you will stop anyone no matter how cracked up with one round. That being said a GP100 long barrel with a Crimson Trace Laser site loded with Federal .357 Magnum 125 grain jacketed hollow point in the night stand can sit there for 20 years and still go bang when needed (no springs under tension to get tired).
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symphonic
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:48pmI heard $19.95, so I am thinking 20 bucks is a steal.
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cish60
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:54pmJC…if you mean it’s ugly–I agree. It looks to me like a toy.
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stage9
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:04pm$19.95???
Where do I sign up??
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Trigus
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:04pmI shoot and carry (i rotate my carry) springfield 1911 – wide ejection port, throated barrel, and polished feed ramp(all factory) -I do not find recoil drastic and have no problem rapid fire double taps.
As other have posted – you should practice double taps – 2 – chest and 2 – head. Left and Right Handed (not many practice this)
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Elena2010
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:05pm@ISHMOT2 – it’s the pistol I shot for my ribbon in the Navy. I was taught by one of our finest, competitive shooters. I found that the checkering on the grip did tear up my hand. Curly and I fired off over 500 rounds in one day, and I was sore the next day. LOL
I do prefer a 9mm for plinking though. Ammo is much cheaper and my weapon of choice has an adjustable grip that fits my small hand like a glove.
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guns-an-bibles
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:48pmI’m pretty sure, by now, the Mexican drug cartels have them. I’ll just go down there and shoot one of them and take one home. That way, I don’t have to register it and another druggy is one less threat to the U.S. border patrol.
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Bluegrasstide
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:08pmIt is beautiful-simply a work of art. I thought it was interesting that the military broke with tradition and went with the beavertail grip safety, with memory grip. I would buy one in a heartbeat, provided I had $2000 to blow. The thing about the price is that you will pass a Colt down 3 generations and it will still go bang when the trigger is pulled. Might have to replace a recoil spring, but well worth the money. Cannot beat the knockdown of .45 ACP, especially when compared with a 9mm.
Did anyone else notice that the gun appeared to be a Commander series? Interesting if so, as the military Colts of yesterday tended to be Government Model 5″. If I am not mistaken, Government models have standard 8 round magazines while Commanders come with 7 rounders. I own a Commander Model Stainless and would take nothing for it. Excellent choice.
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BIG_G
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:28pmI like it, but I will stick with my Glock and FN’s.
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danger08
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:33pmThat’s high. But the .45ACP is an anvil when it hits…
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Brondo
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:10pmThat’s only to the Government. It’ll be about 750. to the general public.
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SanDiegoCountyCitizen
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:49pmA pistol used to backup a rifle carried by a skilled gunfighter, is not about the number of rounds, but about the overall effectiveness of the pistol, including ergos, accuracy and the stopping power . That M45 shoots a 1″ group at 25 yards, puts out almost 500 ft-lbs of energy per round, has a higher sectional density than any other practical handgun cartridge, has a wonderful trigger, and feels better in the hand than almost any pistol available.
BTW, I’m a Springfield XD40 fan and not even a 1911 owner, but my tax dollars are well spent on getting the M45 into the hands of elite USMC gunfighters!
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1911CK
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:04pmIf retail is that high it will probably sell for around $1400-1500. But for that much you can get a lot of good 1911s- and ones with front strap checkering which Colt has never done.
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DeOppressoLiber
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 12:16amThey wanted a Glock in 45.
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sillyfreshness
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 12:58amA classic design with a modern twist.
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SendTheMeteors
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:24am“Marines in combat” use pistols?
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MrObamablows
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 4:01amLove it want one!
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dublinthewagons
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 5:06amWhen in combat the price is totally irrelevant. The equipment fails or works.
45 acp is perfect. It kills. We need to get away from the 223 & go back to 308 or 30-06
I’ll never forget the early m-16. Jaming death traps. Little men w/big rifle vs big man w/little rifle.
I preferr big with big and go home.
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SgtB
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:42amElena obviously has no idea what she is saying. A 9mm, hell, every gun, requires you to realign your sights after every shot. The difference between the recoil of 9 and a .45 is not that much. Also, in a firefight, you are not going to get the luxury of just needing to shoot at a target once. You will need to be able to fire several rounds to keep your enemies head down while your forces flank, enclose, and kill. There is a reason we moved to shooting the 9mm and it was and still is valid. Anyone who says a 9mm is ineffective at killing, I will welcome you to conduct your own experiments by shooting yourself in the thigh with one to see what damage it can do. Any takers?
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holy ghostbuster
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:56amThat’s $285 per round. Well worth the price it if saves your life or somebody else’s.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 9:23amMr or Ms FUBARED,
This is what you must know:
Look at you, all grown up and stuff. Talkin’ guns to your friends. Ammo even! Nothin’ beats a .45, eh? Sure about that? 9mm is designed to wound, eh? There’s a lot of dead people who would disagree with you. Now I know it’s fun to talk military, say things like “armory.” (Hang on, pants are getting just a tad tight.) But if you really want to get in the middle of it, you should enlist. Whaddya say? Are you one of the few? I gotta warn you though, they don’t allow Funyons at Camp Pendleton.
It is so.
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BrutalTruth
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:17amI’ll say one thing Meteors. You don’t have any problem showing how ignorant you are. Now, if we can only get you to learn.
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Tonto USA
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:45amI paid $450 for my Para-Ordinance P12 and a few more bucks for a pacmyer gip for it. It’s accurate and carries 12 rounds. This Colt is nice, but under-ammoed and way too pricey. I think I got a way better deal withut paying big money for the Colt name.
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VigilantGuardShark
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:50amYou are paying for the Colt name and the Colt quality of dependable firearm. That said, I’ll wait for Patriot Arms to build a knock-off for half the price or less.
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fortdick
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:43amWhy, it looks like a 1911 with a rail. I think it is a 1911 with a rail.
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dnewton
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:01pmLes Baer makes an improved copy of the 1911 Colt, and you will pay about $1900 for it. (pre Sandy Hook) The trigger is way better than the Colt Gold Cup and probably sells the gun more than any other feature. It is not as flexible about ammo as the Gold Cup. Don’t try to shoot wad cutters or anything except standard 230 grain bullet. No steel cartiges either.
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Beepster
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:54pmElena, you are right on your history, but ONE is all you need???? Yeah, right, iffin’ ya be facing only ONE person. Any well-placed shot from a .380 will do the job, IF you’re using the right bullet. Don’t EVER use FMJ’s for self protection. They go straight thru, and don’t always do a lot of damage. An expandable bullet is the type to use.
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jowettusmc
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 7:41pmYou are funny!
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Bodacious_Boedi
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:52amI’d love to have it. I carry a Springfield Armory XD .45 ACP with 4″ barrel…it holds 13 rounds with one in the pipe and cost me less than $600!!
For what they want for this thing, I could spring for a nice AR-15 and even fit a nice ACOG on it.
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Trigus
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:23am@from – 1995.00 is a “Limited” COLT MARINE PISTOL from Colts CUSTOM Shop for Civilian Sale.
Just buy the SS Colt Rail Gun – get it Cerakote painted – the color of your choice – for well less then 1995.00.
@SENDthemixbagofnutz – yes, the pistol is always a backup incase your main “Military Style Assault Weapon” fails.Do you remember what a “Military Style Assault Weapon” is – selective fire (3 shot burst and fully auto) and used by the MILITARY.
@DNewton – if any firearm is picky on ammo then it is not a reliable combat firearm. I got rid of a HK 45 because it would not chamber properly .45 +P 230gr Hornandy Tap Ammo.
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Jinglebob
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:38pmGun manyfactures have reached the tipping point in firearm costs. The shooting public cannot afford these new weapons or the ammo to shoot them. Colt has been priced out of the market for years even if they do make a good product. It took the government to save them with this issue. I bet Ruger, for example, could have produced this version for 40% less.
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EgbertThrockmorton
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:08pmWhy not let the USMC special operator-armorers, build them for the civilian market?
I would trust any pistol from them over anything made by any civilian company, besides, we could almost self-fund the USMC special operations command with pistol sales alone, to the civilian market. Of course, I know common sense has no place in discussions about the military procurement.
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supermansdad
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:34pmWow, a lot of people really have no idea about what custom or semi-custom pistols cost. $1900 is CHEAP! Go price a Night Hawk or Wilson Tactical. Even the production 1911 that Marine MEU troops carry, a Kimber Warrior, is around $1400.
Your not paying for a mass produced POS Glock, your paying for a finely tuned, hand fitted machined. It’s also doubtful they still with the factory 7rd mags. Wilson Combat 8rd or McCormick 10rders will most likely be used.
Glocks are great guns but true warriors should carry a better weapon than a mass produced assembly line pistol. They don’t carry standard long guns either, why should their side arm be any different?
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Quester55
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:26pmMan has been using Lead & Steel, Copper, Nickel, Even Silver, in their Firearms for well over 300 years now, How about those Guns we’ll never see in our life time? Like the Instant Knock-Out Dart Guns, or a Simple Heat-Ray gun, A Working Stun Gun, would be nice. Or how about changing the ammo to say, EXPLODING TIPS, or Knock-out gas rounds. Heck even a Peace Maker, Like JUDGE DREAD Used, With BIO-RECOGNITION Security, so the gun is useless without it’s owners LIVING Hand holding it?
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RogueRequest
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:40pmAll you Glock lovers or striker fire enthusiasts that hate the 1911, there is a reason that no one ever calls it 1911leg. There is a reason that there are more 1911s and 1911 clones then all other pistol variants in existence. There is a reason that any service member is going to be carrying a 1911 or variant there of into combat, the Beretta M9 being a 1911 cousin. The Sig P226 also has a lot more in common than 1911 than it does with a Glock and is uses by many federal agencies and even some servicemen. Every time I’ve heard about some guy shooting his kid, some cop accidently shooting himself, or some some cop accidently shooting some else it’s been with a Glock or Glock like pistol.
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CPT_GCF
Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:31am$1,995? Colt has always thought a lot of themselves when it comes to their prices. Everyone raves about the .45 vs. 9mm; but I’m a big believer in round placement vs. caliber. The .45 is a great round, don’t get me wrong, I have pistols in .9mm and .45 (among others), but round placement is much more crucial than the actual size of the round. If I could choose my own sidearm for combat, I would probably go with an H&K USP. Polymer is so much easier to carry than a steel frame.
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@leftfighter
Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:21am@Fubared
Only one weapon I’d tather own. Just so happens to be one of the very few with a larger caliber: The Desert Eagle.
Nothing like a pistol whose barrel resembles a water pipe.
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Dismayed Veteran
Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:39pmThe .45 ACP is a brute of a gun. You do have to re-aquire a site picture after each round. Most of the time it is another target.
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baer1966
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:59pmNice looking gun.
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sonofgalt
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:36pmit’s a pistol not agin it has rifled barrel
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Bill Rowland
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 6:14amLeave it to the Marines to go back to what they know works. A 9mm is a light round that has a tendency to punch thru (it was originally designed for a carbine) the .45 has a tendency to knock someone on their a**. The 1911 design is like the Garand – it keeps on working when dirty and abused.
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iampraying4u
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:29amI love my 223 handgun with 30 rd mag
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miller721108
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:57pmIt is good to see American sidearms getting back into the hands of our troops, not to mention the .45 has far better stopping power than the 9mm. Get them issued throught the Corps and pressure the DoD to dump the remainder of the Berettas throughout the armed services as well.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:54pmThis is par for the course for the gov’t. Everything is gold plated. Heck, everybody wants a $3000 dollar pistol. I do not begrudge our servicemen the good stuff. They deserve it and they truly sacrifice for this nation. I would give them the shirt off my back. But, the other alphabet soup agencies, not so much. While the rest of us hard working Americans make due with $600 pistols we have to buy ourselves, the govt ABC goons get $1500 dollar Kimbers. And, all they do is beat up on helpless saps trying to eeek out a living, at 10-1 odds minimum. They do not deserve such opulence.
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Cadisasterrelief
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:04pmI remember feeling a little bewildered when 10 years ago I saw a H&K P7 M13 on the hip of a ranger on the beach near Monterey, CA. I bought one in 1988 for $1100.00. AND, it wasn’t really all that great.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:14pmI remember the HK P7 M13. It had a strange grip that you had to squeeze to knock the safety off. Very peculiar. So it was crap huh? Thanks for the post.
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DougHuffman
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:23pmH&K P7 was the most successful squeeze-cocker. Proves y’all are ignorant conspirators.
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stablepar
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 5:24pmsig sauer p2022 pro under $400 is fine with me. at least it was under $400 before sandy hook and obama
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BannedByHuffpo
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:53pmDid I hear him say $19.95??
Helluva deal! I’ll take 50!
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BehindBlueEyes
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 6:28amBut wait if you act now they will double the offer. You just pay the shipping and handling fee for the extra item.
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VoteRightDammit
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:53pmWITHER:
(a) a HORRIBLY WRITTEN story, or,
(b) a PATHETICALLY CRAFTED poll.
Two of the four poll questions refer to “price” (being high), yet the story contains no mention of price or what the cost might be.
Besides – where is the option for, “(e) It’s beautiful, I want a whole bunch of ‘em” ??????????
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:02pmMy guess is it is between 2-3 grand. Typical for a very high end 1911. Like I said, the guys that fight the true enemies of America deserve it. The goons that protect the president and the other politician criminals can go and suck eggs. For they aim their weapons at us, scowling and wearing sunglasses with Uzis in suitcases.
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earache-my-eye
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:04pmThey guy in the video said it was $1,995.00
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American Soldier (Separated)
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:05pmIf you watched the video, the guy mentioned the retail price of $1995.
Yes, that is a bit high for a pistol. I paid less for my AR15, which has a piston system, full free-floating rail system, magpul FDE furniture and an ACOG-style 4x scope…..
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The-Monk
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:49pmYellow????
Marines and yellow just don’t go together…
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:56pmHi MONK, Desert Camo. Probably in what they call Coyote, just looks yellow in the video. Here is a more clear shot of one.
http://patdollard.com/2012/08/marines-returning-to-the-colt-45-pistol/
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The-Monk
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:01pmThanks RJJ,
That looks a lot better. How does that colored coating last/wear?
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RoDogg
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:14pmI believe its not just yellow but a mil-spec 5 digit color code like 37038 which is flat black.
It also means that the color probably has light refraction properties which makes it even cooler IMO.
Meaning .. it wont reflect light when you have it out and your enemies wont be alerted to your presence.
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Fubared
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:48pmMonk
That coating will last a lot of shooting and carrying-takes heat and wear well. Way past the gen 1 teflon action. Good stuff.
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The-Monk
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:32pmThanks guys : )
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apollo18
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:33amMonk: As I recall….. a weapon in the hands of a US Marine, under the watchful eye of a vigilant Marine NCO, should have that fine weapon scrubbed back to gunmetal grey by close of business, Friday or “I’ll MAKE SURE ALL LIBERTY WILL BE —- CANNED!!! ”
Sorry, some breakthrough PTSD…
Appearances will not be an issue.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 9:26amMr or Ms FUBARED,
This is what you must know:
Somebody’s been reading Handgun Magaziiiiiiiinnnne! Hey, I hear Cabela’s has a deal on paper zombie targets.
It is so.
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RabbiDRJerkins
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:44pmShalom,
The 1911 series of pistols are more reliable than most and they do indeed have fair to mid-range stopping power… I would not trade what I carry for one, but it is more than suitable for government personel. It is not the underpowered and overpriced handguns in government hands that has me concerned; It is the arms that the government reserves to itself for use that concern me and that should be the concern of everyone who would prefer to be a citizen instead of a subject.
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iampraying4u
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:43amI love my 556 handgun with 30rd mag
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Kinnison
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:32pmThe Marine Corps needs to replace ALL of its Beretta 9mm’s with .45′s. The 9mm switchover was a strictly political decision to standardize pistol calibers with NATO. And with the horror stories I have heard from troops who have used the 9mm to shoot anyone in the Sandbox or The Stan, replacement with a combat handgun with a real man-stopping caliber like the .45ACP is long overdue.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:46pmYawn. A 1911 by any other name is still a 1911. Anybody surprised? Next topic.
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Marsh626
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:20pmIt’s a myth that the .45 auto is a better man stopper than the 9mm. They both have roughly the same stopping power. I’ll take more rounds with less recoil.
As to the Beretta M9 sucking, I largely agree. It’s a good gun. But there’s definitely better guns out there. It’s not like you can only choose the 1911 or the Beretta M9. The FNX-45 Tactical would have been a good option. The Five-seveN is another option if you want armor penetration. Or heck, an old school Glock 19 would serve quite well I imagine.
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:32pmMarsh,
Can you comment explicitly on what was bad about the M9? I am genuinely curious. I know the open slide was criticized a lot. Was it the failure rate of the slide? I heard many of them cracked after a couple thousand rounds. What did you not like about it? Thanks.
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Bub47
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:26pmMarsh: I call B.S.!!! See the Chuck Hawks web site!
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sjrcg
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:46pmI used to carry an M9 for work and loved it. Shot thousands of rounds through it and it felt like an extension of my arm, perfectly balanced and fit nicely in my hand. I own a 1911 and love it, but I still prefer the M9. I can put 16 rounds on target in seconds and swiftly reload due to the chunky mag that finds its home much easier then the 1911. In fact I am looking to buy one here shortly. I have seen the slide snap in two before, but this was on a twenty year old gun that had hundreds of thousands of rounds put through it if not more. Plus we had probably shot 6-700 rounds at the range that day alone. Now we carry the Sig P229 DAK which I cannot stand. Its an unbalanced POS with a terrible trigger in my opinion.
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klopnuts
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:34amthe difference in pistols is all user preferance. (i love my 1911) the differance in rounds is the 9mm will punch a nice little hole clean through and the .45 will take a nice chunk with it. the basic need for the change was so military personel who carried a pistol could hit the broad side of a barn. just my opinion on some of that. (but a .45 does take a nice sized chunk. watch a slo-mo video of a 9mm vs .45 on a pig carcass.)
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media-bias-steals-elections
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:32pmClose quarters? If you have to include that in the title of your product, you are insulting my intelligence, and I don’t want one? Or are you insulting the intelligence of government bean counters?
You can not make a gun purchase based on a video, you have to hold it in your hands?
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GoodStuff
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:45pmTake a pill.
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FToth84
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:30pmAnybody else pick up on the fact that it will come with only 7 round magazines? Surprised? I’m not
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:37pmAhhh, thats all they held in 1911. I’m not surprised.
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:46pmHaving worn one on my side or in a shoulder holster almost daily while in the Army I was always issued standard 7 round magazines too. You can order some ten round mags from Wilson Combat that they jokingly called Brady mags, or Clinton mags back in the ’90s. Of course extended mags were made for the Colt as far back as WWI for trench warfare. But, in regular carry extended mags really get in the way.
My point is, what do you expect Colt to send them to the Marine Corps with other than the standard seven round mag?
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moosed
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:12pmThe .45ACP is a very large round compared to a 9mm, maybe twice the size. Of the .45 ACP pistols I know, standard mags are limited to either 7-8 rounds single stacked or 13 rounds double stacked. I do know of wide body 1911s with 10-14 round mags standard, but this Marine 1911 isn’t such a pistol. The Colt 1911 design uses a single stack mag which has the advantage of making the frame narrower.
I have a subcompact Glock 30 .45 ACP with the 10 round standard mags. Of course, you can buy 27 round mags that give your G30 the profile of a hockey stick! But, there’s the issue of these non-factory mags having more failures to feed than factory items, depending on the mag and gun makers.
Extended single stack 1911 mags are in the range of 8 to 11 rounds. All I can say is, carry a pouch full of extended mags!
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Kalidor835
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:05pmKeep in mind also that the 1911 uses a single stack mag while the M9 uses a double stack mag. This means that you get twice the ammo with the M9. If you want a 1911 style gun you could get a STI 2011 with a larger capacity that uses a double or staggered stack mag, if you can find one. Most of STI’s 2011 .45s have a capacity up to 14+1 rounds of .45ACP including the 3″ tactical compact.
http://www.stiguns.com/products/guns/pistols/2011-pistols/
A friend of mine has one of their Tactical 4.0s in .40S&W with a couple of the 17 round mags and it’s a great gun. He paid around $3K for it but if you want something that’s basically a custom right out of the box it’s worth the cash.
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iampraying4u
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:33amthats a eo by obozo
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FaithfulFriend
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:28pmPretty.
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CONTUMACY
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:28pmI think it’s funny that a 1911 handgun would probably be one of the few guns you would be able to have ,without modification, after an assault weapons ban passed-like say NY. The funny part is libs don’t prob realize that 1911′s have probably killed more than any ar-15.
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rafa2design
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:41pmLibs don’t realize either that most murders and organized crime hits happen with a .22 caliber handgun. They see a small round and think, “oh it’s small. It doesn’t hurt people as badly.”
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CONTUMACY
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:51pmA .22 round can be pretty deadly when it starts bouncing off of bones all through your body causing all kinds of bad new. Two words-shot placement…
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DougHuffman
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:26pmHideous.
Next GI 1911 will have pearl grips and gold plating to match their grillez and their pimped-out Hum-jobs.
My CCW is a H&K USPc .40. My OCW is a SA1911-A1. My dress gun is a black satin Luger Mauser/Interarms.
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Bub47
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:34pmHey if it was good for Gen. Patton, it is good for me!
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truthnstuff
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:22pmI’m sure the government is paying 2 – 3 times what it is really worth. After all the DC bosses need their cut.
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RightThinking1
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:16amPretty sure Patton’s pistol had ivory grips. He said something about Mother-of-Pearl being for pimps…
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circleDwagons
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:25pmI would like one Confederate Grey. Have a blessed Lee/Jackson day.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:27pmGod Bless the soldiers of the Confederacy. May the ride again with us.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:24pmMr or Ms THEGREATCARNAC,
This is what you must know:
Don’t recruit losers.
It is so.
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thegreatcarnac
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:38pmto YOursensei….
I have a sensei…you are not it. The war you speak of was just the 1st half. Half time is almost over.
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YOURSENSEI
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:50pmMr or Ms THEGREATCARNAC,
This is what you must know:
The South proved they were masochists 150 years ago. No need to do it again.
It is so.
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truthnstuff
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:25pmYoSensless..
this is what you must know
the South will rise again
and yo arse will be no mo.
It is so
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boba
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:24pmDon’t worry, we won’t be allowed to own one anyway. It probably holds 7 maybe 8 rounds. Us civilians can’t be trusted with such firepower. Get a Sig Scorpion 1911. It looks pretty much the same to me.
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DZ-015
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:21pmInteresting matte gold finish; and the grips have a sort of snakeskin look. Is it only for the Corps model?
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lawrench
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:24pmI am surprised the left allows the military to have weapons. Or is this to replace scary looking weapons?
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Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:10pmLaw,
Screw the left. They are not “allowing” jack crap. They don’t have a say so . It will be a cold day in hell before I and many others allow the left to dictate what arms we have access to. You need to get out of the mindset that you need some commie-prog’s permission before you do something.
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chicaneman
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:49pmthe color is flat dark earth, the finish is ceracoat, heat cured ceramic powder coat. my 1911 sig is identical. the grips are machined micarta in the snake skin pattern.
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stopprintn
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:16pmHow about blaze have some kind of contest, you know, so I can maybe win one ?
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RJJinGadsden
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:53pmBest idea that I have read or heard all day!
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Topcat
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:15pmInteresting point , it has a seven round clip . And was contracted long before the current 2nd amendment battle.
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XquisiteWretch
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:30pmSo did the original 1911 pistol, not too peculiar
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PK_SEA
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:31pmAs with the last “assault weapons” ban and the magazine size restrictions, you’ll see more sales in higher caliber weapons.
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Topcat
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:45pm@XquisiteWretch
In Vietnam we used the M1911A1 I thought it was 8 rounds and the new 9mm was 10 . My mistake , was a long time ago .
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Welcome Black Carter
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:06pm7 + 1 in the chamber might be what you are thinking of. I think Wilson makes a Mag that will go 8 +1 now.
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Kalidor835
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:08pmSome of the newer 4 and 5 inch 1911s from makes like Taurus, Remington, and Citadel have 8+1 capacities. The one I have came with 8 round mags. I still only load them with 7 because I’m leery about the 8 round claim for factory mags. Some people have said that they had to dismantle the mag and remove flash to get theirs to hold 8. Supposedly stronger thinner mag springs allow for the extra round.
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Midwest Blonde
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:14pmWell, I WOULD have an opinion if I could maybe watch the VIDEO. I click on it – and it goes away… same for 90% of the videos here at the Blaze. The ONLY ones I can ever watch is the ones that auto-start, and half the time, the video has nothing to do with the article (not talking about the ads here, folks)
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spfoam1
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:22pmIt’s your browser. I had no problem watching the video.
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CONTUMACY
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:24pmtry updating flash
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armymp
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:13pmI hope it holds more than 7 rounds… just to piss off nanny bloomberg
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pnwnative
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:11pmI am surprised the Kenyan in Chief did not require the barrel to have an orange tip.
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NoMoMrNiceGuy
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:08pmHOOAH ! – I love my SA UC 45
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1SFG
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:04pmNice to see the old 1911 back in the saddle! GD morons should have never replaced it with that POS M-9. I served 24 years mostly in ARSOF. So don’t say I am wrong.
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GuruMeditation
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:38pmA good move. The 1911 is superior to the Beretta.
Mil-Dot
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:24pm1SFG,
Take it easy there Mack. Put that heater away. You are correct. NATO folded to the Europeans because most of them would rather “harm” their enemy instead of kill them. Also, the Europeans were the ones responsible for the 5.56 x 45. It was more politically correct to not kill the enemy. The Americans wanted the 7.62 x 51, but they caved. GD europeans ( small case intended)
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48TENNVOL
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:03pmAgreed, the Colt 1911 has been solving problems for over 100 years. I realize that the military wants the absolute best weapons in the hands of our warriors, but all you need on that hand-cannon is good sights, a good trigger, and reliable magazines. The ambi-safety, light rail, and forward cocking serrations are nice high-end options, but Alvin York certainly didn’t need them on his Colt.
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skunkbear
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:24pmmil-dot said:
“… NATO folded to the Europeans because most of them would rather ‘harm’ their enemy instead of kill them. Also, the Europeans were the ones responsible for the 5.56 x 45. It was more politically correct to not kill the enemy. The Americans wanted the 7.62 x 51, but they caved. GD europeans ( small case intended).”
You have it exactly backwards – NATO had the 7.62 x 51 first. It was the amerikans who forced the switch to 5.56, ergo your insults to the Europeans are moot.
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Sgt_Rock
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:44amGot to agree with Skunkbear…with the exception of the Brits, everyone in NATO was carrying either the FN-FAL the G-3 (or in the case of the Italians, the Beretta M59 (M-14) until the mid-80s and in some cases into the 90s, . When we would deploy for REFORGER or other USAREUR ops we were the only ones carrying 5.56. We went to Dutch Commando School in Rosendahl, and carried the FN and Uzis. We loved the FN. It was heavy and a combat load was twice the weight of the M-16, but it was a great rifle.
I’ve carried the 1911 (Gold Cup on patrol and a Combat Elite for 10 yrs on SWAT) for 32 years. They never failed to shoot anything I fed them and stopped a guy who had already taken two double taps from another operator’s MP5 without going down at less than ten yards. In reality caliber has some bearing on knock down, but ultimately it comes down to shot placement. A 9mm into the T-zone will drop a mutt just as fast as any other round in the same spot. Can’t say the same for a center mass hit. Lots of survivors of multiple hits out there, regardless of caliber. Bottom line, I don’t give a rats a** what caliber your shootin’ iron is, if you can’t get hits it’s just a really loud personal alarm. BTW, a pistols main purpose…to fight your way to your rifle.
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Minnaloushe
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:03pmCould they make it look kinder, gentler, and more sensitive?
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swampy57
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:08pmWell they do have an accessory attachment that is a clown head you attach to the muzzle. The bullet will come out the clown’s mouth and it looks like the clown is saying, “Oh”. So that makes people feel all good and they don’t realize BFH theory is about to be applied to them. For our enemies that may be afraid of clowns, not understand clowns because of cultural differences, or perhaps are even clowns themselves I heard they were developing alternatives. I think they are working on teddy bears, friendly lions, and little yellow ducky heads. But it really doesn’t matter because the end result is BFH theory is put in practice.
The 45 ACP is a much better round than the 9mm for a military weapon. A 9mm will penetrate and do damage but only if it hits something vital. The wound that results from using required ball ammo looks like it was made with a drill. On the other hand, a 45 ACP looks like someone used a pick ax. In CQC, which would you rather have in your hands to fight with?
As far as capacity, to get the same effect as a single 45 ACP, you have to shoot the target 2 or 3 times with a 9mm. So 7 rounds is the same as 14 – 21 9mm if you are actually shooting to hit and do damage.
Some people say the 45 ACP is old technology compared to 9mm but in truth, the 45 came out in 1911, hence the pistol model number and the 9mm came out in 1908 for the German Luger. German training even stated to ‘use 2 rounds for each target’.
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