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House GOP Set to Pass Three-Month Debt Ceiling Extension: Is This a ‘Cave’ or Something Bigger?

Jan. 18, 2013 1:40pm Becket Adams

Charles Krauthammer, Paul Ryan, & Philip Klein Talk Debt Ceiling Compromise

Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-OH) (R) and House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA)(L). (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images).

In an attempt to reign in President Obama’s so-called “tax-and-spend” agenda, Republican leaders have loudly opposed him on almost every major economic issue, including the debt ceiling and the “fiscal cliff.”

However, it’s no secret that this tactic of playing hardball with the president hasn’t served the GOP well. In fact, based on the thrashing they received during the “fiscal cliff” negotiations, we’d say it has gone rather poorly for them.

So when the House GOP announced early Friday afternoon that they would vote next week to pass a three-month debt limit increase to “meet our immediate obligations,” we wondered whether this was yet another concession or whether it was part of some larger strategy.

You see, a handful of conservatives have suggested recently that the GOP drop the “hard sell” and stand aside. Let the president have his debt limit increase.

Why?

“Can you govern from one house of Congress? Should you even try?” asks conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer in a recent Washington Post op-ed. “Can you shrink government, restrain spending, bring a modicum of fiscal sanity to the country when the president and a blocking Senate have no intention of doing so?”

He goes on to explain that there are two factions in the GOP wing of the House: Those who are “willing to risk the fiscal cliff … willing to risk a breach of the debt ceiling and even a government shutdown,” as Krauthammer puts it, rather than swallow President Obama’s policies and there are those who eventually collaborate with the White House because they see nowhere else to go.

“Obama’s post election arrogance and intransigence can put you in a fighting mood. I sympathize. But I’m tending toward the realist view: Don’t force the issue when you don’t have the power,” he adds.

The noted columnist explains where he thinks the GOP should take the debt ceiling fight:

The debt-ceiling deadline is coming up. You can demand commensurate spending cuts, the usual, reasonable Republican offer. But you won’t get them. Obama will hold out. And, at the eleventh hour, you will have to give in as you get universally blamed for market gyrations and threatened credit downgrades.

The more prudent course would be to find some offer that cannot be refused, a short-term trade-off utterly unassailable and straightforward.

[…]

But the key is: Go small and simple. Forget about forcing tax reform or entitlement cuts or anything major. If Obama wants to recklessly expand government, well, as he says, he won the election.

Republicans should simply block what they can. Further tax hikes, for example. The general rule is: From a single house of Congress you can resist but you cannot impose.

His conclusion is simple:

Want to save the Republic? Win the next election. Don’t immolate yourself trying to save liberalism from itself. If your conservative philosophy is indeed right, winning will come. As Margaret Thatcher said serenely of the Labor Party socialists she later overthrew: “They always run out of other people’s money.”

Krauthammer isn’t alone in this thinking. The Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein agrees:

[Republicans] should give Obama his debt limit increases without preconditions, and they shouldn’t allow any government shutdowns.

Meanwhile, Republicans should use their majority in the House to pass bills that actually do address the nation’s problems — its economic stagnation, rising energy and health care costs, mounting debt and so on. At the same time, they can keep blocking major new expansions of government.

This two-pronged strategy would allow Republicans to isolate Obama and establish themselves as the responsible ones. If he refuses to get serious about addressing the nation’s debt problem, it will be a lot harder to escape responsibility if he can’t point and say, “Hey, look over there, House Republicans want to blow stuff up.”

In the unlikely event that this forces Obama to get serious about tackling the national debt, great. But if he doesn’t, Obama’s legacy will be that of a president who came into office promising to make the “tough choices” necessary to solve our nation’s problems, then proceeded to duck them. Meanwhile, Republicans will have laid out their own vision, and their candidates will have a stronger case to make in 2014 and 2016.

Klein concludes by saying that the GOP can either back off the “hard sell” and allow the president to dig his own economic grave or they can continue losing to President Obama.

And now we come to the important part — the part where House Republicans announce that they will authorize a short-term extension of the debt limit next week:

Cantor: “Next week, we will authorize a three month temporary debt limit increase to give the Senate and House time to pass a budget.”

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) January 18, 2013

“All options are on the table as far as we’re concerned,” Rep. Ryan (R-Wisc) said yesterday. He added that GOP leaders were currently discussing how best to “achieve progress on controlling our deficits and controlling our debt.”

“The worst thing for the economy is for this Congress and this administration to do nothing to get our debt and deficits under control,” he added. “We think the worst thing for the economy is to move past these events that are occurring without any progress.”

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wisc.). (Photograph by Bill Clark/CQ Roll Call via Getty Images).

The Senate Minority Whip agrees with Rep. Ryan.

“We will raise the debt ceiling. We’re not going to default on our debt,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas). “I will tell you unequivocally, we’re not going to default.”

Exit Question: Are House Republicans rallying behind this short-term extension because they are caving to pressure or is this part of some larger plan to reign in President Obama’s spending policies?

Boehner spox says the ONLY condition of the 3-month debt limit hike is Senate passing budget (or it gets no pay). No spending cuts attached

— daveweigel (@daveweigel) January 18, 2013

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UPDATE: This article accidentally referred to Krauthammer as a “conservative communist.” We meant to write “columnist.” Krauthammer‘s a conservative columnist. Huge, huge difference.

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Comments (195)

SamIamTwo
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:34pm
Quick kick that can one more time and we’ll get a new can to kick later…pffft.

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- smokeysmoke
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:46pm
  im for cuts now…..
  
  but i think that if you were playing chess, this is a good move… spend a little more money on the shot term and force the senate to put their plans on paper….
  
  so that republicans can argue against something, instead of the media just making up that republicans are so draconian, as democrats spend more than any administration in history, and we have seen little gain, is that draconian?
  
  and the congress needs to keep only giving omney to pay the debts, NO MORE, and force obama to make cuts or push for more and more taxes on a struggling economy… but dont let them debase the currency to make obama look good for the history books… its unethical
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:55pm
  Win the next election??? What a joke.
  
  The only way the people will ever have another honest election will be a similar action as was taken
  in 1946 Athens Tenn.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:57pm
  @Smokey
  
  There you go, playing the “let’s play to the media” game. You can’t force the Senate to do anything, and even if you did, the media would blame the GOP, especially the “hard line tea party radicals!”.
  
  You cannot win the PR game with the Left. They are monolithic and unthinking and their propaganda machine budges for no fact that opposes their agenda.
  
  Stop with this “chess game” crap. Oppose this now, you’ll get the blame no matter what, so you might as well make it worth it.
  
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- NativeTexan71
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:01pm
  smokey – if you had a brain you still would be stupid. The house can’t pick and choose what to pay nor can they only give money to certain causes. the only way to ensure the money flows as needed is to stop loading bills up with pork and have each bill pass on it’s true merit. Case in point as recently as this week is Sandy relief. Do you think $60 bil was really necessary? Guess again. Over $50 bil of the bill was pork and the stupid losers in DC voted for it. HERE’S THE PROBLEM – IT IS NOT THEIR MONEY – THEY DON’T CARE WHERE IT COMES FROM. JUST THAT IT GOES TO THEIR CRONIES. Here is the solution smokey – JUST SAY NO! If they don’t understand, then make it more plain – HELL NO!! Can you say term limits and impeachment and jail time?
  
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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:03pm
  This is an interesting take on the issue – http://godfatherpolitics.com/9022/democrats-want-children-to-inherit-as-much-debt-as-possible/
  
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- happygranny
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:23pm
  This sounds great, if you are playing with people who have a full deck. Liberals are all short of Aces – therefore they are not able to respond like a normal person. IF you can pass a bill to accept a 3 month extension with the added “you will not get paid if you don’t do what you are supposed to do” how do you enforce that? My persobal preference is to say NOT JUST NO BUT HELL NO, pack up your stuff and leave.
  
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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:19pm
  But when do republicans/conservatives just tell Obama, NO you can have any more money? I’m not sure I can agree with just kicking the can down the road yet again 3 months. Disaster is looming:
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/will-2013-be-a-time-of-economic-disaster/
  
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- Hobbs57
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:53pm
  I say it is the only logical move at this point. Those of you who think we won’t win the election are seriously wrong. You have to remember, the Obama campaign spent nearly a Billion dollars in order to get all those idiots out to the polls. I very much doubt, DNC is low on cash and with these tax hikes, they will have a hard time getting wealthy donors.. Besides Hollywood and the Unions of course. But even the Unions are suffering terribly, take one hit after another. Our motion, if it was as in 2010 was purely grass roots. … Let’s just hope the bigots of our party aren’t still holding it against the GOP for putting a Mormon up for president … ;-P
  
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- Secret Squirrel
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 6:49pm
  When the republicans again picked Boehner to be speaker, that told me they are not serious about
  anything except re-election. Tax and spend. Buy votes, pork.
  Our only salvation is a new conservative party, and let the dems and GOP merge into the “Gimmie”
  party.
  Sooner or later, the piper will be paid.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:07pm
  This is not a cave in – 2 days ago on a Foreign News Broadcast – China Gave Barry the okay to raise the debt ceiling.
  
  Give up on US news. Start looking at multiple foreign news to find out what is going on. Why was this not reported by any US news agency?
  
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- Red Meat
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 8:13pm
  Wow! It’s almost like the Blaze and by extension, the aholes at FOX News, are the establishments shills once again. I wonder when Kucinich and Juan Williams will be writing articles here?
  
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- freeberty
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 9:22pm
  Absolute Genius!! Agreeing to anything Obama wants, yea that’ll show him and teach him a lesson he’ll never forget!
  
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- SendTheMeteors
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:52pm
  You guys are confused, but thankfully SendTheMeteors is here to help. First, no, this isn’t a conspiracy of the MSM, as exciting as the conspiracy idea is.
  
  First of all you need to understand that the US already owes this money. This isn’t new spending, it’s not a “blank check.” Raising the debt ceiling only allows the US to pay debt it already owes. As private citizens, you probably understand the concept. You commit to paying someone for something, you have to pay it. The US government pays the debts is owes.
  
  Something else you need to understand what happens if the US defaults on it’s debts. The US economy and probably the world economy would collapse. Again. Wall Street and even the Koch Brothers don’t want that. Their business would suffer. You know what else? The rest of the world doesn’t want that. Nobody wants that. That’s the reason the Republicans are giving in on this. Capitalists in this country and the rest of the world don’t want this gun held to their head.
  
  The other thing is that this is the United States of America. Our Democracy has ceased to function if a group of Republicans in the House holds a gun to the head of America, and the entire world, and say “if we don’t get what we want, we’re going to make America a deadbeat nation, crash the American economy and the world economy.”
  
  Folks, that’s just stupid. Everybody knows that’s stupid. Except you.
  
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- JohnGalt
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:53pm
  Who will Obama blame if Republican’s give him what he asks for? When things don’t change in 4 years or are worse then who’s policies are clearly to blame?
  
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- pissantno.10
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:03pm
  roll another one meter maid to late to fix your stupid .
  
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- DRSAVAGE24
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:55pm
  Its not a cave, people. This is what the republicans want. All the arguing is nothing more than pro wrestling.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 12:36am
  @sendinthemixbagofnutz – how much are you costing the American Tax Payer – What government hand outs do you get?
  
  Answer the question: Why was it not reported by any US media that China gave Barry the Okay to raise the debt limit?
  
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- muffythetuffy
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:08am
  WHY DON’T ALL THE REPUBLICANS JUST PACK UP AND LEAVE
  
  They are not doing anything except vote with Democrats and Surrender to Obama.
  
  Nothing is going to be fixed until after secession of the many states. The secession has already started.
  
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- hallkbrdz
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:44am
  Here”s a better idea. Americans – don’t pay your taxes until the Govt. can create a budget to plan where the money will go. That will put a big dent in the can.
  
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- bijobe
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:03am
  Wh the heck don’t the OP go home, cut their salary, get a part time job, and the maybe the wll have something useful to contribute to the country since obviously they are failing in their present job!
  
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- BSdetector
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:03pm
  If there’s a can to be kicked, or a Cave to be entered, you can count on establishment Republicans to find it…
  
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NativeTexan71
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:33pm
We forced Hutchison out in favor of Ted Cruz and, with this really stupid comment from the other loser, Cornyn’s name now moves to the head of the list. He will get a true conservative primary challenger in 2014 and he will be gone. You can take it to the bank. I applaud other commenters such as AZthunder and shorelineliz whose sentiments are what I have been saying for four years. SHUT THE F$$$ING GOVERNMENT DOWN. obama is a radical ideologue dead set on destroying our country. Until the idiot repubs in the house accept this as a truth and realize that the power of the purse controlled entirely by the house is the only thing currently saving this country from utter destruction at the hands of a raving corrupt lunatic, they will continue to be looked upon as totally irrelevant. This is all they need to say – NO BALANCED BUDGET, NO SPENDING CUTS – WE WILL SHUT IT DOWN COMPLETELY. I am willing to make that sacrifice for my grandkids. Are the Cornyn’s and Boehner’s in Washington DC willing to make the same commitment???

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:59pm
  We need to get to the point where our elected representatives are representing their district or state rather than their political party. So when the question of debt ceiling increase comes up, the representatives from Texas will have a position and so will representatives from New York. There would be at least 50 different positions on the issue. And then the debt ceiling law would have to be crafted in order to get the majority of vote, which means they would need to appease at least a few red state representatives…..That way nobody has to compromise and the laws will represent America instead of Boehner or McConnell
  
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- VRW Conspirator
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:23pm
  @Native
  
  1) in TX after 38 years in CA…my poor home state has been killed in the last 20 years by these A-holes…
  
  2) right there with you…shut it down…if in the past, when there was a government shut down, over 70% of government employees stayed home with no pay… those non-essential personnel…then shut the government down. the first thing that happens is anyone deemed to be non-essential gets FIRED!!! meet them at the door with a pink slip and a handshake and say GOODBYE!!
  
  3) if the average government worker makes $71,000 plus benefits and retirement….and we have nearly 1/2 million workers in the federal government right now…over 70, almost 75% that are non-essential…. this does not include military….that would giver you about 325,000 employees FIRED at $71K a year….saves $23 Billion a year…plus benefits and retirement…that would probably jump to about $40 Billion….just in salaries and benefits….
  
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- JacquesChirac
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:34pm
  Native – love the post!
  
  However, let’s just say that the House holds the line and does NOT increase the ceiling. Let’s just say that as a country, we make it to the 2014 mid-terms. The emperor and his media will run the Repubs not only out of control of the House, but out of D.C.! Now, armed with the legislative branch, what’s to hold the emperor back? (You know better than to say the judicial branch…)
  
  Too damn scary in my mind; although I know many of you will tell me that we won’t make it to the 2014 mid-terms by raising the debt ceiling every three months anyway.
  
  I don’t know the answer. All I know is that someone needs to stop the emperor’s winning streak. Even though the country I grew up in is dead and gone, it would be nice to save at least a speck of it for the next generation…you know, the ones who surrounded the emperor during his announcements/signings on Tuesday…
  
  And I know it’s besides the point, but didn’t Cruz defeat the progressive Dewhurst in the run-off for Hutchinson’s seat, due to the fact that Hutch announced her retirement???
  
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- Racemosa7
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 10:37pm
  When will we realize none of these fixes will come about, and or work. Proof? Want facts? Here it is.
  Psalm 2 in the Authorized King James Bible. Get to the root of the problem neighbor.
  http://www.soulwinner.com
  
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- bigdaddyt46
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 12:15am
  Cantor is bucking boener as we speak. he has put together something that is getting wide support. it’s a budget v pay plan now beeing cooked up. simply put it’s offer and put in place a solid budget or don’t get paid. that’s 1 step, step 2 which i hope they move on is to follow gingrich era ways which is shut down and force obama into a corner like gingrich et al did to clinton to get to a balanced budget.
  boener and mcconel are agaist this drastic step, but cantor, ryan and others are starting to see the logic of it. it’s going to be a looooong 6 months
  
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- dnewton
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:59am
  When the government is shut down, we find out what is truly needed and what is not when they begin doing exemptions within agencies. Essential people will stay on and work. The bureaucrats know the system way better than the congress and can manage it. Not everyone in the SSI system is writing checks, though I do have a distant relative, who is a Democrat, and who believes that unemployment could be eliminated by hand writing all of the social security checks. He is serious about this too.
  
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Redhawke
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:30pm
“allow the president to dig his own grave ”

The president is not digging his own grave, he is digging all of our graves and the graves of our children.

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- DRSAVAGE24
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 11:54pm
  Not this we’re only one half of one third of the federal government talk again. Yes, you can govern from just the house. Say, “We’re not raising the debt ceiling.” And the president and senate will be forced to not go over the debt ceiling. There, it’s that simple. No more of this wait until the next election crap. Like it will make a difference. Obviously we can see how incompetent they are right now. Give me one reason to trust them. Just one,
  
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Anonymous T. Irrelevant
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:27pm
“Win the next election.” Right. By then, the low-information voters will outnumber us all.

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- SocialistSlayer
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:35pm
  I agree – Why is the GOP – taking it’s cues from the Media ! Cantor and Boehner don’t have one ball between them !
  
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- SimpleTruths
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:38pm
  No you won’t.
  
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- PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 5:37pm
  It is already too late. The 2012 elections told us that.
  
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- YOURSENSEI
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:52pm
  This is what you must know:
  
  I didn’t think conservatives could get any weaker. I was wrong.
  
  It is so.
  
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jakartaman
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:23pm
These b-ll-less bunch of b-stards are selling out AGAIN.
Stop the Spending – fools!
We need a tax revolt

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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:29pm
  how about the federal government can only spend what they collected in revenue the previous year?
  
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Cavallo
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:15pm
What the hell is the purpose of having the GOP in the House if they just cave? Better that the GOP vote present then, and let the Dems do all the actual voting and sink the ship as fast as we can?

The new normal: High unemployment, anemic economic activity, high taxes, high regulation, astronomical government spending.. and soon inflation, lots and lots of inflation. You can’t invent that massive amount of imaginary money to publicly spend and not have an extremely negative effect on the economy. If this government can’t run itself on 2+ trillion brought in a year, it doesn’t deserve to run at all.

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- drs1969
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:54pm
  We could buy gold, guns, ammo, then vote Dem. and get the collapse over with!
  The Rep’s don’t want to be seen raising the debt limit $2-3 Trillion, at one time, to get them past the next election. This way, they can keep ratcheting it up 3 mons. at a time, by about $400 billion, and the sheeple won’t notice. Suckers!
  
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stopprintn
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:10pm
Well I guess it will be easier to correct all the spending problems, when the dept is 20t. You know, why bother when it’s only 16t. Let them get another 10m or so on food stamps, and expand all the other hand out programs. Yes it will all be easier to deal with then.

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GhostOfJefferson
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:09pm
Right, Kraut-y ol’ buddy ol’ pal. The last thing an opposition party should do, is oppose.

Meanwhile, when Dems are in the minority, they rail and scream and kick and protest, and then what do you do? You cave then too.

Cowards. The lot of the GOP is made up of cowards. There is no saving these cursed fools, to hell with the lot of them.

Vote Libertarian, or you’re wasting your vote. If you can’t see that by now, you’re lost.

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- justangry
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:25pm
  Krauthammer is a douche bag neoconservative Bilderberger. As long as we’re blowing up every country that won’t submit to the NWO, he’s happy.
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:33pm
  We’re 16 + trillion in the hole and we didn’t get here entirely because of the Marxist fraud currently dismantling capitalism. I bash Barry on a daily basis but I have to be honest we got here because of our one party system,we think we have a two party system but we don’t, you didn’t see any cuts when Bush held office for eight years,he gave us medicare part D,DHS and the patriot act. No,we have a one party system and it’s the big government party and it’ll bebrought down to size one way or another.
  
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- GhostOfJefferson
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:40pm
  Yeah. The problem is, that the GOP by and large has his view, so on this he’s spouting the rationalization for once again caving like spineless bastards.
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:36pm
  The GOP doesn’t negotiate it tries to extort.
  Now working this time.
  
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- joey g
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:18pm
  only good news …the repukins and democrat/communists children…grandchildren are all going to suffer too..
  
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- truthnstuff
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:31pm
  The GOP is spineless, incompetent, crooked, and unable to articulate conservative values. All the constitutionalists need to move to the Libertarian party and start campaigning for 2014-2016 now.
  
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NOBALONEY
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:09pm
In exchange for a Senate Budget Resolution? Ask Israel suuporters about how well the Senate intends to back up their Resolution in support of Israel. Speaker Boehner is a mere figurehead, the House majority are the Dems, and the GOP Rinos. Obama’s second term will be much worse than his first term. Obama has the narrative, and the changing of the lexicon that the main stream never questions. “Forward’ is Tax, Spend, and Raise. All under the guise of “paying our bills”.

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@leftfighter
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:08pm
We’re reliving the 1930′s.

Round about 1936, the Republicans began caving to every FDR whim and got 10 more years of losing elections for their lack of putting up a fight.

What a joke.

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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:12pm
  time to clean house……..FLAT TAX…………TERM LIMITS
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:24pm
  The only difference is this depression will be a hell of a lot worse than the last one because this generation has the sense of entitlement that didn’t exist back then. When the gravy train stops and it will there’s going to be widespread violence. On the other hand it’ll be a good time to thin the herd.
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:41pm
  Hon, Don’t try to rewrite history.
  FDR’s programs not only got us out of the depression they
  were and STILL are overwhelming popular and supported, by the American people.
  YOU are totally wrapped up in your dogma.
  
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- 13th Imam
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 4:29pm
  That was a great joke about FDR getting us out of his depression. He got out of his depression by making sure we forced Japan to Surprise? Attack us.How will Barry try to get out of his depression? What will be his big Crisis?
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 7:09pm
  DORA, I agree that FDR did pull off some wildly popular stunts, but none did anything to turn the depression around. In fact, he took office when the depression was in the process of being turned around and his first projects began to dig the hole even deeper. 13TH IMAM is spot on regarding that it took going war to end the depression. Naturally you and media will never agree, but….
  
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balrog25
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:06pm
Stupid. Draw the line, shut the M-F-er down. Now is the time. These politicians should know if they do it now, the fools (electorate) will forget by the next election. If they wait and try to convince us of their conservatism later, the ones that count (us) won’t be fooled. If they don’t do it now, then it means they are just progressive-lite. Elections have consequences, that includes the election of the people’s house, where the finance (and sense of responsibility) is suppsed to begin.

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- drs1969
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:01pm
  I held my nose and voted for my Rep, even though, they voted for the last debt ceiling increase. No more. I think a lot of people will not bother if this drags out for 2 yrs.
  
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@leftfighter
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:05pm
“conservative communist Charles Krauthammer”

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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moreteaplease
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:01pm
” asks conservative communist Charles Krauthammer ”
—————————————
Excuse me

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barber2
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:00pm
To the Chicago radical Democrats this is a cave. They must be thrilled that their War on Capitalism proceeds Full Steam Ahead : Destroying American capitalism one bad economic move after another..unchallenged by their Lefty the Lap Dog MSM and the cowering Republican Party.

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jrcess
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:55pm
If you cannot steal it or bribe someone for money, Harry Reid will not have a clue how to approach it. Harry is a crook and a thief.

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awakeandwatching
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:54pm
This all eventually ends the same way. The big crash in the end. I say let them go spend all you want the sooner it all crashes the sooner we start the recovery.

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Plan B
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:53pm
conservative comminist??

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- carpee
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:23pm
  i saw that too.
  
  You need to correct “conservative communist” to conservative “columnist”
  
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AzThunder
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:53pm
GOP, you frikkkkin spineless weaniiiies…. draw a line in the sand, progressives cross it over and over again !!!

You moron GOP members need to stand firm NOW.!!!
NO BUDGET – NO DEBT CEILING INCREASE

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elvascon
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:53pm
“Can you govern from one house of Congress? Should you even try?” asks conservative communist Charles Krauthammer in a recent Washington Post op-ed.————– I know he’s not a communist.

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- stopprintn
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:03pm
  Big type-o
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:51pm
If this is some kind of long-range strategy and not the usual complete cave-in then I can only figure one reason for it:

Force the hand of Obama over his demands for personal control of the debt-ceiling or the elimination of it completely. In passing the three-month extension the ball passes into Reid’s and Obama’s hands. If they pass it then the Republicans are the heroes, if not then the truth of the uncaring and unyielding policies of Reid and Obama are again revealed.

No matter what, the Republicans will be blamed and any success on their part will be made to appear as a failure and a cave-in to the masses.

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- kaydeebeau
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 2:03pm
  I’m with you on this Snow – It always seems to turn out “damned if you do and damned if you don’t” – I am not sure how we ultimately win…..
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 18, 2013 at 3:04pm
  BHO grabbing control of debt ceiling = collapse of dollar by year’s end. That’s all the Rep’s are good for.
  
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- ecmo
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 9:36am
  The GOP needs to stop worrying about who will get the blame. That is the political part of it. Lets do the moral part of it and shut it down!
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:50pm
Cave. Cave. Cave. Cave.

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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 12:48am
  They didn’t cave.
  They have been running on empty since the election.
  All Obama asked was for Ryan to name even ONE loophole he wanted to close.
  
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shorelineliz
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:49pm
The very thing this country needs right now IS a government shut down. Shut the darn thing down. If the GOP gives even an inch it just means more spending and more debt. They have an opportunity to shut this out of control Government down but of course that would mean THEY wouldn’t get THEIR next paycheck would it? Just a bunch of gutless wonders!

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elvascon
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:48pm
“Can you govern from one house of Congress? Should you even try?” asks conservative communist Charles Krauthammer in a recent Washington Post op-ed. ————— I know he’s not a communist.

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RoDogg
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:48pm
Cantor: “Next week, we will authorize a three month temporary debt limit increase to give the Senate and House time to pass a budget.”

smoke and mirrors!!! They HAVE YET to pass a budget in 4.5 years. That statement in itself proves they are just playing games to me.

To me the worst part is…… the longer the can gets kicked … the longer/harder it will be for America to recover.

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EqualJustice
Posted on January 18, 2013 at 1:48pm
It’s something bigger. Passing a budget and PAY-GO tied to debt ceiling bill. This will never pass the Democrat controlled Senate. So who will be blamed?

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