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O’Reilly Spars With Atheist Who Doesn’t Want Obama to Use Bible During Inauguration: ‘You Are in the Minority…Does That Matter at All to You?’

Jan. 19, 2013 1:14pm Madeleine Morgenstern

Barack Obama, left, joined by his wife Michelle, takes the oath of office from Chief Justice John Roberts to become the 44th president of the United States at the U.S. Capitol in Washington, D.C., in this Jan. 20, 2009 file photo. (AP Photo/Jae C. Hong, File)

Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly on Friday clashed with an atheist activist who doesn’t want President Barack Obama to swear on the Bible during his inauguration.

Andrew Seidel, a member of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, declared America is a “nation of laws” and the use of the Bible is inappropriate at a national event. The organization previously circulated a petition to get Obama to abandon the tradition.

O’Reilly said the “overwhelming majority of Americans disagree” and would be furious if the president didn’t use the Bible. Obama will in fact swear on two Bibles — ones once owned by Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. — during Monday’s ceremony.

Seidel countered that the “demographics are shifting rapidly,” saying his organization now has 19,000 members and that 19 percent of the country considers itself non-religious.

“Even non-religious people don’t want to boot the Bible — especially Abraham Lincoln’s and Martin Luther King’s — out of the inauguration,” O’Reilly said. “You are in the minority. The folks want the ceremony to include the Bible. Does that matter at all to you?”

Seidel said the “Bill of Rights exists to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.”

“We are a nation of laws, and neither our laws nor our morality are founded on the Bible,” Seidel said. “Religion gets its morality from us, not the other way around.”

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wildwood
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:19pm
HE shouldn’t use the Bible, he is going to lie under oath with his hand on the bible just like last time! HE SHOULD US THE KORAN THAT IS SUI TED TO THE MUSLIN !!
i DON’T HAVE THE STOMACH TO WATCH IT!!!

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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:37pm
  Yeah this is one train wreck i can’t watch as it won’t kill a few it will kill untold numbers.
  
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- kat747
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:40pm
  It is an insult to the Bible that this fraud will be putting his hand on it.
  
  It is an insult to the USA that this fraud is still President.
  
  Will not be watching this disgraceful act called an inauguration. Shame on Congress for
  allowing this to happen to this once great country.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:52pm
  It must suck to be an atheist, being all alone in this world, not knowing a higher power and the love from above that comes with it. I know the man is upstairs. I have had way too many ‘coincidences” in my life. There is no such thing as coincidence. Can you imagine, running around your whole life denying the existence of God, thinking that all of this, this entire universe, just ‘is’. What a pathetic existence these cretins lead. I am actually quite sick of their asses. They must be driven out at the first opportunity, along with all the other vermin.
- Thomas
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:58pm
  Those things this atheist mentions as flaws in the bible are things that have slowly been removed from man’s culture by the things written in the bible. “Where the Spirit of the Lord IS there IS liberty”. God new what is already part of man’s culture in the times even before any books of the bible was written. Man has freewill and therefore God deals with man and his reluctance to change for it could not be an instant one. The bible shows a record that God slowly familiarize man with His nature and allows man to slowly make a transition by his own choice. We do not take the bible dogmatically but with God’s understanding not our own. Dogmas of theologians are man’s nature and so are conclusive stances of the Atheists.
  
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- Keatonc33
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:24pm
  I have asked this question a 100 times on here and never got an answer. so i’ll try one more time. Can any of you name one piece of tangible evidence that leads to your belief that Obama is a Muslim?
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:39pm
  WILDWOOD – I suppose you have proof that he’s a Muslim, care to offer it? Love you nutjobs, so entertaining!!! And you hep Democrats win elections.
  
  As an agnostic it doesn’t bother me that they swear on a Bible, but it is ridiculous. Anyone who doesn’t stone people to death for working on Sundays isn’t following the “morality” of the Bible. The thinking of the Enlightenment figures has impacted our Republic far more than the dogma of the Bible has.
  
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- Exrepublisheep
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 4:07pm
  KEATONC33. Hmmm, the reply button works.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 4:22pm
  KAT747 – What the hell are you talking about? Obama won the election. Decisively. What is Congress supposed to do: ignore the election results? The republicans nationwide didn’t even win as many votes for House members as Democrats did; they only have a majority because of gerrymandering.
  
  You don’t like the results? Stop being such an extreme right party that appeals to the worst tea party and religious right elements and actually win an election. You only won the popular vote for President once in the last 6 elections, and that was a war time president.
  
  Anti-gay marriage, anti-government, anti-science – the country is passing you by.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 5:02pm
  anyone? anyone have a viable reason to think Obama is a muslim? anything tangible?
- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 5:15pm
  I can’t say that I’m all that against Obama not using a Bible to be sworn in on. I mean really, what’s the point?
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/that-sickening-feeling-about-obama-and-this-election/
  
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- wowjustwow
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 7:15pm
  If any of you even suggest that you’re Christians, I would like to know what planet you’re from. I went to 16 years of Catholic school (college incl) and the Jesus I was taught about would not want His creations being called pos. Christ teaches that NOBODY is beyond redemption and NONE OF US has the right to judge. That’s all most of you do. Black hearts…anti-Christian…not because I said so, but because you say so in everything you say. He loves the worst sinners among us and wants them to come to Him.
  
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- Independent4233
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 7:43pm
  “Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly on Friday clashed with an atheist activist who doesn’t want President Barack Obama to swear on the Bible during his inauguration.”
  
  He’s not really an atheist He’s a homosexual activist who thinks if he can reduce religion to an insignificant influence it will help usher in his all-inclusinve rainbow utopia that that he perceives will accept homosexuals as just another “lifestyle,” rather than a severe mental illness.
  
  If Christianity accepted homosexuality he wouldn’t be an “atheist.”
  
  Although Islam is gaining in numbers and strength here, I seriously doubt you will see him openly challenge them, though, because he knows if he does he’ll be decorating a lampost somewhere.
  
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- RamonPreston
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:56pm
  The Obama family likes to kill Christians. Leave the Bible home. He’s no “Christian.”
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:18pm
  Obama is a Muslim, shouldn’t he be using the unholy Koran?
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:28pm
  “Obama spoke at a White House dinner he hosted Friday night to celebrate the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. Obama singled out Huma Abedin, an aide to Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton who is Muslim. Obama called Abedin “an American patriot” and “an example of what we need in this country.”
  
  ‘Rep. Steve King: We Must Investigate Huma Abedin’s Muslim Brotherhood Connections’
  http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/10/27/Steve-King-s-Outrageous-Statement-About-Huma-Abedin-Was-True
  
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- 1947
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 11:34pm
  If the Bible isn’t used then America will now that Obama is behind the “ATHEIST” movement. He’s the one who helped all the “ATHEIST” make this happen……Hitler did the same thing……America read some history and you will see the same foot prints……Just like Obama used the children concerning Gun Control…..Hitler did the same thing……
  
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- Ded-Bred
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:03am
  Oh, quit whining & take responsibility already. IF you knew this but didn’t do all you could to prevent it, it’s your fault. Period. I love the spectacle: He places his hand on a president’s Bible who was an atheist himself. And had no intentions of “freeing” blacks, regardless of all you learned in history books.(What do you think Liberia was for? Former slaves. Many did go, & look- a constant series of despots using 6-14 yr. olds as “Death Squads”. Martin L. King, Jr. was a notorious womanizer, FBI under J.E. Hoover kept an extensive dossier on him. Don’t believe me: FOIA(freedom of info. act spills the beans.) As a believer in Christ, I trust my God. He will reward us all, for good & for bad. Nothing any of us could possibly imagine can compare to the righteous judgment of God.
  Look @ the toadie for the DummyKrats & Ripoff-a-Klans, your hero Glenn Beck. You & the rest of the Beckies. Wake up! He slanders a true patriot(Ron Paul) while spinning his fellow cultic Mormon(Beck- MORMONS are NOT Christians- Mormons believe that Jesus & Satan are brothers. And they don’t believe in heaven and Creator God. No, they teach GOD used to be a man like us, only he practised Mormon magic & got to be God, & 144,000 more mormons will get to be god of their own universe. That is Glenn Beck & Mitt Romney’s idea of “Christian.” But Ron Paul, patriot. Honest. Serious about saving our nation. Beck lies about Ron. He’s a do-boy for Obama & Mitt. So you get what you asked for.
  
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- Bad_Ashe
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:29am
  @FREEDOMLOVER
  
  I can’t tell if you’re willfully obtuse or simply a moron. You write as if the founding of the United States occurred in an idea vacuum, like an 18th century philosophical version of a single-format radio station, on which the selections on tap were simply all Enlightenment, all the time.
  
  Much of the original framework of our country is based on enlightenment ideas, but the part you leave out is that it was filtered through a extremely powerful Christian lens.
  
  Shall we talk about how there were more Christian Bible translators who signed the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution than there were, say, deists (the historically ignorant atheist label of choice for the founding fathers), or shall we talk about how often the Bible is referenced in the communication between these men during the Revolutionary period?
  
  There is little doubt that while borrowing heavy from Enlightenment ideas, America was founded by Christians, and intended to operate within a predominantly Christian framework, albeit one in which there was no government-operated religion a la The Church of England. The modern take on the separation clause is a bastardization of the original intent.
  
  Comparatively speaking, we’ve seen what kind of event occurs when you base political revolution on Enlightenment philosophy not having been filtered through a heavily Christian worldview…it was called the French Revolution, and it was atheistic, horrifying, and barbaric.
  
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- Bad_Ashe
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:11am
  @FREEDOMLOVER – I would refrain from doing too much self-fellating. Willful ignorance and misplaced symbolism simply make powerful partners.
  
  Obama being reelected was not as much public affirmation of his policies as it was a popularity contest between the media-anointed liberal messiah and the media-vilified rich white evil cultist. A majority of people who voted for Obama are emotionally tethered to him because of what he symbolizes; everyone else stayed home. This is how he managed to be the only president to get reelected with such a deep economic downturn, near record fuel prices, unemployment and record debt. Even Obama’s campaign management said that their strategy wouldn’t have worked for another candidate.
  
  You seem to have forgotten that when polled, the electorate largely sides with the right on most issues, whether they realize it or not. Also, people won’t buy into yet another progressive messiah…you only get that once.
  
  As for extremism, need we go into detail on the pervasive and often leftism that has cemented itself in government and media over the last decade and a half? I’m proud to cite endless examples. The Tea Party is simply a response to extreme leftism and fiscal irresponsibility.
  
  FInally, supporting traditional marriage, limited government, and being rightfully skeptical of an authoritarian collective who will do just about anything for grant money is not necessarily being “anti” anything. Stop with the mindless liberal scare label
  
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- kat747
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:50am
  @ KeatonC33
  There is a clip on YouTube of Barry stating in his own words that he is a muslim. He is speaking
  to an international group where there are muslims in attendance.
  
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- kat747
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:42am
  @FreedomLover_US
  For the first part, I did NOT say that it didn’t win the election (decisively as you put it), the election was “fixed”. How do you explain no votes in a city the size of Philadelphia PA for a republican or an independent ? Some computer problem ? And that wasn’t the only city.
  As for the second part, calling me Anti-gay – cretin democrats like you love to “assume” everyone that disagrees with your marxist mentality is “anti-gay”. You have absolutely “NO CLUE” how I feel on that subject, because I have never mentioned it.
  As for the third part, calling me “Anti-government” has to be corrected to “any government that is violating the US Constitution”.
  As for the “anti-science”….specifically what part of science are you talking about ? This is one hell of a generalization that did not make any sense …again, on your assumption.
  As for the Tea Party being “the worst” as you worded them, you should take a long, hard look at the New Black Panther Party that has intimidated voters in Philadelphia for two elections and has the brass to put in print how they advocate killing white people. The Tea Party pales in comparison to those activities.
  As for the “religious right” – there is another assumption on your liberal, democratic part. There is no problem with any religion or no religion, JUST DON”T LIE ABOUT IT especially if you are President of the United States of America.
  Someday YOU will see what I am talking about.
  
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- kathy@49
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:21pm
  Keaton33, I seem to recall atheists are just as guilty as Christians with the name-calling and making fun of their beliefs. I don’t care what you believe or don’t believe I just want the same consideration. I have the right to believe that God exists just as you have the right not to believe he exists.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:47pm
  @KAT747 – Investigative reporters went to the districts where Obama got 100% of the vote and couldn’t find one person that voted for Romney or anyone else. These districts have always gone 99+% to the Democrats. They even interviewed the registered Republicans, most of who didn’t realize they were registered as one. There is zero evidence of any voter fraud.
  
  @BADASHE – I’m certainly not denying there were fervent Christians amongst the founding fathers, but to say they viewed the Enlightenment thru a “very Christian lens” is simply not true – stop reading David Barton, the guy is full of you know what.
  
  You know what? All the founding fathers, all of them, were evangelical preachers. What the hell do I care – I’m tired of this argument. Believe whatever you want – doesn’t change the fact that we are a secular government and there is a very clear seperation of church and state – the way it should be. I have no desire to live in a Christian version of Iran.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:04pm
  @valiant1776
  Where do you get off calling Koran unholy? It’s not enough that you simply disagree with Muslims, but you have to degrade yourself by throwing insults. I can’t help sit back as Atheist systematically destroy your beliefs and traditions, just like Christianity did to so many religions before it. There have been plenty of good Muslims in the past to go with the bad. How about every time to try to extol the virtues of Christianity I bring up the dark ages, the inquisitions and the Salem with trials. How about I remind you that Hitler was Christian and that the KKK was and always has been a Christian organization. Even if Obama came out and said he was Muslim it wouldn’t make me hate or love him any more than I do now, it shouldn’t matter to you either. By the way, it’s because of bigotry like that your losing the war on Christmas and all similar battles your facing at the moment. I can’t wait until Easter is no longer associated Christ.
  
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- kat747
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:29pm
  @FreedomLover_US
  I would NOT believe that “investigative” business of interviewing people in Philadelphia for one New York City second. Next you are probably going to tell me that the NBPP was NOT standing in front
  of the voting poll with a club in his hand. Those pictures were in the newspapers and on the internet for both of his elections.
  It is your right to believe that liberal spin if you want to, but I don’t believe that or any of the garbage spewed out of this administration. Anyone who has sealed records to hide his past and has lost a law license for fraud is not above fixing an election. His wife lost her law license for insurance fraud….so much for ObamaCrap. The St of Illinois can prove both to you.
  Like I said before, we will let the future prove whether I know what the “hell” I am talking about….and I hope you along with the rest of us are not living in a moslim version of Iran or a Christian version of Iran or any version of Iran, all of which would be the definition of the phrase “living death”.
  
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- rose.777
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:32am
  abomanation
  
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hi
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:14pm
Obama hates Jews and Christians. He should not be allowed to use our Bible. Also, his secret service should not be allowed to use guns.

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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 4:09pm
  Really? He HATES Jews and Christians? Care to offer ANY proof? Wingnut…
  
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- chershaw8
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 9:43pm
  BHO calls Jews terrorists and Christians cling to thier Bible and guns….need more proof Freedomlover ?
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:24pm
  Obama admin refuses to call Jerusalem Israel’s capital.
  http://www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/23174/Default.aspx
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 12:08am
  CHERSHAW8 – Obama never called all Jews terrorists. Maybe he acknowledged the existence of Jewish terrorists (as does Israel.) And he didn’t say all Christians cling to their guns and religion; he said some on the far right do.
  
  It’s your right to not like him, but at least be fair in your criticism and dislike him based on what he actually means and believes, not what you choose to infer.
  
  VALIANT1776 – No country in the world calls Jerusalem the capital of Israel, other than Israel. Per the peace agreement between the Palestinians and the Israelis, the status of Jerusalem is to be directly negotiated in a final future peace agreement. Hence, every country in the world has their embassy in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:15am
  The sheep that are still fawning over Obama will follow him straight into hell at this point, sometimes you just can’t fix stupid and I pray God has mercy on them but one thing is for sure, this world will not have any mercy on them at all.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:08pm
O’Reily would have been correct if he didnt resort to popularity contest. Any christian should know that the majority is usually wrong

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- ReformSchool
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:28am
  The man who misses no opportunity to remind the audience that the United States is not a Democracy, reminding a caller that he in the minority is disingenuous at best, or more likely a hypocrite.
  
  Has the world gone mad, or just grown incredibly stupid?
  Christian parents might (or might not) name their sons Barry.
  They most assuredly do not name them Barack, a bastardization of the Hebrew Baruch (Blessed). Nor do they name them Hussein, as the Prophet Muhammad named his son.
  
  In Islam, the practice of Taqqiyah (deception) is a time-honored tradition. Naive Christians have met their Maker by the thousands, believing to the End all men are the same. They are not. Christians naively believe Muslim rites must automatically follow Christian traditions. They do not. The ring on Obama’s finger means far more than the left hand on the Bible or Quran, for it is present all the time, like the ring through the nose.
  
  If there truly were justice in the world, as Obama swears the Oath of Office, the world would witness his nose instantly grow by eighteen feet. Watch both his hands for crossed fingers and for a forked tongue..
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 11:13pm
  And Christ would return, only to find that modern Christians have done nothing but corrupt his original teachings and see this he would burn them all to ground for the fowl deeds they have perpetrated in his name.
  
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- searcher619
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:53pm
  RogueRequest:
  
  And just what are his ‘original’ teachings? We do not have a sample of those. the closest thing we have is not being acknowledged by the church because it actually takes power AWAY from the churches and gives it back to the individual. Try to remember the bible is not a book written by Jesus or his direct followers. The bible was written 200 or so years after the supposed death of Jesus. For all you know, very little of what’s in the bible is anywhere near what Jesus taught.
  
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daniel3839
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:07pm
It just amazes me how UTTERLY EVIL and IGNORANT these haters are. THEY MAKE ME SICK. Can you imagine the HATE these God hating Monsters grew up with, what kind of sick, twisted parents they had?

Right. The current bible teaches Christians to treat their women as chattel? WHAT PLANET ARE THESE ATHEISTS FROM!? We can all see how well children are doing in society now after mothers abandoned raising children so they could have career’s. Now they are MASS MURDERERS and MONSTERS!

How many kids were doing mass murder 20 years ago before the FEMINIST MOVEMENT that the progressives / communists pushed mothers out of the home to pursue JOBS? THERE WERE NONE!

Now you know why the bible said that a women’s place is to raise children and take care of the home. Now that we are straying from God we have MONSTERS for children RAISING THEMSELVES like cavemen with no guidance while MOMMY pursues her own selfish desires.

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- whatthecrazy
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:33pm
  I agree whole heartedly but you forgot about dad who was with the secretary down at the motel 6.just sayin………..
  
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- jblaze
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:35pm
  100% true! However, most people are too selfish and vain to admit it! So goes the Family!
  
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- jblaze
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:52pm
  Besides that, the Bible says not to swear by anything but let your yea be yea and nay be nay! Mat. 5:33-37 swearing on a Bible gives no proof to me that he will be true to his word! If we just go by his record of not keeping his word so far, we have all the information we need.
  
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momrules
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:02pm
I would like to know on what holy book, if any, Obama actually uses to swear his oath on when he is secretly and privately sworn back into office on Sunday.

As far as the atheist on O’reilly’s show, typical anti God nonsense. Of course his stance is right along with changing America’s traditions.

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- greatgrandma
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:46pm
  If the atheist do not believe in God, then they also don’t believe in mohammed & the koran. But, if they choose to chase God out of our country, it may open a bigger door for another mythical god, sharia law, and a lot of heartache for us who do not assimilate
  
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- duckyack
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:03pm
  And, of course, we all saw how the atheist, over and over, misinterpreted history, if he knew it at all, and oh boy, 19,000 members, he boasts, is not an exploding movement by any stretch. He is a doofus, and I’m embarrassed for him.
  I don’t call myself an atheist, nor do I say I am religious–I don’t believe in traditional religion/Christianity, or any other traditional denomination, but I will fight to the death to help defend anyone who wants religion/Christianity in his or her life! The flip side is that I will fight against the religion of Islam, mainly because I don’t see it as a genuine religion with humane values. Islam is a hateful cult practiced by many, many millions with nothing in their hearts but murdering and genocide. Their prophet was a pedophile, the people are kept living in a dinosaur age, and their women are treated as subhuman. Their beliefs in what awaits them in the hereafter, reflects how completely vulgar and shallow these people are. Sex, to them, is heaven whether it is with 70 virgins, a pig/hog, or a child. It makes no different to those people. They are unclean in more than their minds!
  
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watashbuddyfriend
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:02pm
Well, Bill O’Reilly, did you take the opportunity to lead the atheist to choose the Right Road, before it is to late?

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justangry
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:00pm
Way to go with the mob rules argument O’Reilly… Did they teach you that at Harvard? Or perhaps the hazards of a society based on mob rule?

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- resme
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:48pm
  Ya, I’ve heard it time and time again. Example: Justin Beaver is popular. Jersey Shore is awesome, etc, lol… We should have learned by now the majority has “shiite” taste and ideology.
  
  Just look at current popular movies,music, and politicians.
  
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RDavis49
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:58pm
Atheist are no different than gays IMO. They have very little if any moral code by which they live and conduct their immoral lives. If atheist don’t like the Bible, leave it alone. If you have a problems with the laws and the rule of the majority, then change it through properly established channels or STHU.

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- TheePolitinator
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:33pm
  I agree, this whole argument on atheism is disgusting, I would like ten minutes alone with the little punk. So I could “educate” him of course.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 4:39pm
  You’re right of course. Because I don’t stone adulterers or people who do manual labor on Sundays, I have no moral code. My list of top ten rules to follow does not omit bans on slavery and rape, and instead omits “keep holy the Sabbath,” which is clearly more important.
  
  I don’t expect you to understand this, but we do have moral codes. It’s a superior moral code than the one you get from a book written in the bronze age written by desert dwellers who would have thought a wheelbarrow to be an amazing piece of technology. It’s a moral code that requires thought and empathy.
  
  The way people like you treat homosexual people, and people who do not think like you, is absolutely reprehensible. It’s one of the many reasons the country is passing you by.
  
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- Keatonc333
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 5:06pm
  Christians don’t have the best moral code either.. at least some. you see its not a religion or identity thing. Its just that there are good and bad people in all walks of life.. otherwise explain to me how priests, some of the most christian and godly people on earth, could rape a child.
  
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- itchytriggerfinger
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 7:11pm
  @ Keatonc333…
  
  That’s because they were homosexual before they became priests. A homosexual wearing a roman collar is still a homosexual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXB8eACUwjM
  
  But don’t worry, if organizations like NAMBLA are successful in lobbying the APA to drop pedophilia from the DM, pedophilia will no longer be frowned upon and it will eventually become a socially accepted lifestyle and sexual orientation. State legislatures will vote on it and because we are a progressive society, the laws against pedophilia will be wiped away and pedophiles will be able to enjoy the same freedom that homosexual’s enjoy as well. They will be able to sue those who infringe on their constitutional rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Then no one can ever come down on Catholic Priests ever again because pedophilia will be legal and your comment will be obsolete. Have a nice day. :o)
  
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- GetRight
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:32pm
  FREEDOMLOVER, I am sorry you disdain us Christians. That is okay. I do not hate you for it. I will not try to argue with you or start a fight to try and change you. I can tell you are firm in your beliefs. However, I do want to clear up a misconception you have about what we as Christians believe. You think we are hypocrites for not following the law in the Old Testament. With minimal research you will find that those laws (Mosaic laws) such as the Sabbath, etc were all fulfilled with Jesus coming. This is why we believe differently from Jews. We are no longer under the Law of Moses. Please do some research and you will see why we believe certain things or do not follow the laws in the Old Testament. Please take the time to see for yourself. This is your life, your beliefs, your eternity. Know for sure by taking the time to study and seek out Biblically educated people. You may be surprised by what you find! Good day.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 10:40pm
  @Freedomlover_US You’re a f’n idiot. No Christian church today teaches anyone to stone or rape another person. Your ignorant and bias opinions hold no value or importance. STHU.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 12:17am
  I don’t disdain Christians – I disdain people who think people who don’t think exactly as they do are evil. Most Christians I know are very, very nice people. Same with most Muslims I know (I work for an international company with many Muslims for Europe and Africa) as well as agnostics. It’s the haters I can’t stand. I’m not a hater of Christians, I hate the people who post ridiculous nonsense about nonchristians on here.
  
  FYI, I also believe Islam is ridiculous. I believe that it is more dangerous than Christianity, but I also know that most Muslims ignore the more violent parts of the Koran just as most Christians ignore the more violent parts of the Bible.
  
  And not every Arab or Muslim person in the world is somehow connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, which most conspiracy theorists on this site seem to believe.
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 3:37pm
  Atheists live as good law abiding people without the threat of burning in eternal hellfire. I think this would make their morals superior to that of Christians. Sad but true.
  
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Lukabrassi
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:45pm
Obama swearing on the bible is as credible as him swearing on my mother-in-law.
He doesn’t hold faith for either one.
I don’t think you’ll see him swearing on the Torah though. Not for this country anyway.

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RDavis49
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:45pm
How does this work? “the bible gets it’s morality from us, not the other way around” What sort of dumb ass thinking is that? Christianity is all about teaching morality. Jesus was all about morailty. Atheist are such stupid, illogical people…. This man clearly has never read the Bible. If it wasn’t for the teaching of Jesus Christ, we’d all be just like the muslims with their sick form of morality where chopping off the heads of their own people is considered moral. This guys a total idiot.

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- Pnis
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:00am
  The Bible was written by men. There is nothing in the Bible that couldn’t have been written by someone in the first century. This should be a red flag that perhaps it wasn’t inspired by god. Every atheist I know is a good moral person. We don’t need to get our morals from a book. We use common sense and logic.
  
  If not believing in super natural beings, people rising from the dead, virgin births, etc, makes us “illogical” then so be it.
  
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- U4eeeahhh
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:36am
  DR49, look at Christian history – just a few hundred years ago Jesus’ followers were happily burning a few hundred thousand at the stake all across Europe and a few here in the American Colonies, millions more were tortured, ostracized or otherwise persecuted. A millennium ago the Christians were fighting wars of dominance killing Jews and Muslims and beheading them. Your religion was in the same growth phase as Islam is now.
  
  Did you know that the first group Hitler went after when he call to power in 1933 were the German Freethinkers & Atheists? The organized Freethinker movement in Sweden and Germany dates back to the middle of the 1800s by 1930 the German Freethinkers League had a membership of over a half million Germans. The League was closed down in the spring of 1933, when Hitler outlawed all atheistic and freethinking groups in Germany. Freethinkers Hall, the national headquarters of the League, was then converted to the Nazi’s office on church matters. Nazi hunter “heretic and atheists” in Poland, Yugoslavia and Scandinavian nations. Hitler hated the Atheist more than the Jew and his move against them was one of his very first actions. Hitler was primarily motivated by a wrapped version of Christian mythology and use the deity to justify his actions and rationalize his nation’s place in destiny. Read Mein Kampf, search Hitler’s speeches, he calls on the Creator just like the Founding Fathers did.
  
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whatthecrazy
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:45pm
You can bet he doesn’t like touching the bible as it probably sends painfull shockwaves through his evil body..

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Bad_Ashe
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:44pm
There are lies, damn lies…statistics, and then there are atheist statistics. I always love it when the intellectually dishonest godless start talking about their ever-growing numbers.

After large jumps the last decade, those who self-describe as “nones” only increased by 0.3% last year. In other words, the modern “godless” movement, not unexpected in a society making technological leaps in concurrence with financial advantages, is coming to an end. This dovetails into the historical fact that in economic turmoil, people return to God.

The rub of course is that despite claims by guys like Seidel, most of the “nones” aren’t atheists and actually believe in a higher power.

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woodyee
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:41pm
Gaybama will swear on the Bible (twice) because lying means nothing to him, except that it is a means to his end. He was specific in citing his support of Muslims in his book.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8snQbQzqOg

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unwinethirty9
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:38pm
Way to go, Mr. President. You’re doing a great job stifling theism and deism in government and in general — let us not relapse back into christian and religious fanaticism from this point FORWARD. Great Great Great Job — It’s about time.

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- kathy@49
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:26pm
  We don’t have to worry about slipping back into religious fanaticism, there is more than enough liberal fanaticism to take its place.
  
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Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:38pm
The Constitution and the Bill of Rights exists to guarantee our freedom from a tyrannical government.

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Dagnabbit5
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:37pm
We shouldn’t swear on a bible anyway. At least those that believe in the bible shouldn’t, imho.
James 5:12
Above all, brothers, do not swear oaths by heaven, by earth, or by any other object. Instead, let your “Yes” mean yes and your “No” mean no! Otherwise, you may fall under condemnation.

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- Welcome Black Carter
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:20pm
  I would bet at his NEXT swearing in he uses that verse to justify not using a Bible. That is how fast the rate of decay in this country is. By his design.
  
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Acena
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:33pm
Isn’t the point of the swearing on a bible is that the person doing the swearing believes deeply in their religion and their oath to god and country is nationally ,politically,socially and morally binding them to the duty the people have entrusted him with even if it means death?

And since freedom of religion grants everyone their choice of religion ,the president chooses his own religious text ? Why would you swear on a Torah if you don’t believe in it ?

I bet if Obama used a koran,this man wouldn’t say a word.

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JoeKing
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:31pm
Wow O’Reilly got schooled in this interview by ingoring the Constitution itself:
Article. II.
Section. 1.
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

What doesn’t isn’t clear about those words? If the President wants to put his hand on the bible and repeat the above lines, have a day, but Constitutionally God has no place in the swearing in.

On a second note O’Reilly and BARBER2 obviously don’t understand the difference between a true democracy and a constitutional republic.

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teapartyconservatism
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:29pm
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” – Declaration of Independence

Obama often omits “Creator” when speaking of our “unalienable” rights, reducing rights bestowed by God, to mere privileges permitted by politicians! Dems boisterously booed God three times at their national convention!*

One of their ploys uses atheism to attack America with a false argument of separation of church and state, which is not in the Constitution! Quite the contrary, Judeo-Christian tenets form the foundation of our Constitutional Republic. If there is any valid pretense for separation of church and state at all, it is that government influence on religion is the antithesis of Christian influence on government.

* Democrats Boo Inclusion of God, Jerusalem as Capital …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUJE9YfsbNQ

Wake up America!

Mario Apuzzo, Esq., Barack Obama Is Ineligible to be President, For He Is Neither a “Natural Born Citizen” Nor a “Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution”
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/10/barack-obama-is-ineligible-to-be.html (10/28/2012) (updated 11/10/2012)

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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 4:14pm
  Hate to break this news to you but creator does not mean god. Look it up in the dictionary. My creator was my mom and dad. An imaginery character who himself is a creation by humans cannot endow humans with rights. All rights are provided by man. If you have other evidence please provide but I don’t remember hearing about god coming down to tell us what our rights are and what they are not.
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 4:15pm
  Also I think you know that those dems were booing voter fraud not god or jerusalem.
  
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girlnurse
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:29pm
We are the most HYPOCRITICAL nation in the world! We take down the 10 commandments from every government office we can–we constantly scream “separation of church and state” (even though our forefathers put those carvings, bible verses, and memorials there). We’re lucky if we get to have a nativity scene up anywhere. Obama touts the beauty of Islam, athiests, abortions, and homosexuals. AND THEN…he swears in on a bible!
Im for keeping the bible because Im a Christians and our forefathers (most of them) were too! And our country was founded on Christianity…but the HYPOCRICY is sickening and when Obama touches the bible I wouldn’t be surprised if it goes up in flames because he is a liar and the father of liars!

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- USAMama
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:36pm
  You got that right! I’d rather him not desecrate the Bible, swearing on it while telling blatant lies. “Protect and uphold the constitution,” when he intends to do no such thing!!
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:42pm
  I would prefer that Obamo go up in flames instead.
  
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- hi
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 2:00pm
  Haha! Great post!
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 3:16pm
  Girlnurse
  thats right. but you forgot the part about america being pro-life, except when it comes to people in foreign countries
  
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- girlnurse
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:20pm
  SOYBOMB: Well I am pro-life but I think half of amerika loves abortion (otherwise there wouldn’t be so many)(including our government)—as far as people in foreign countries I would pull us out of MOST foreign countries like RP said. Im for sparing those folks our misery that we spread all over the globe too! Obama is pro-death whether it be babies, foreigners, or americans.
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 4:17pm
  How was our country founded on the bible? Please explain with specifics.
  
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riseandshine
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:29pm
More noise.

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RANGER1965
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:27pm
In one statement this person tells everyone the sum total of his belief system.

(1) I will say anything, and do anything to get my way. it doesn’t matter if it’s true.
(2) I will lie to you because I’m more enlightened and you wouldn’t understand the deep complexities of my mind.
(3) The majority rules until they disagree with me. Then I become a suffering victim that need protection.
(4) My ends whatever they may be, justtify any means, because I’m just that important.

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- SoNick
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:45am
  The funny thing is that all the points you mentioned could be used to describe Christians…
  
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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 4:24pm
  lol you just described christianity in america.
  
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teapartyconservatism
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:19pm
Obama is not a “natural born citizen” eligible to serve as President pursuant to Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution![1]

Furthermore his proven identity anomalies i.e., fraudulent birth certificate, altered Selective Service Registration, stolen CT SS#, and aliases: Barry Soetoro, Harrison J. Bounel, Barack Soebarkah, indicate he is not even a U.S. citizen.[2]

Supreme Court Chief Justice Roberts set 2/15/2013 for the full court to hear a case regarding Obama’s forged identity in conference.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=375765

Justice Thomas has admitted they’re evading Obama’s ineligibility.[3] Pray he speaks up again to urge his colleagues to finally enforce the Constitution!

1. Mario Apuzzo, Esq., Barack Obama Is Ineligible to be President, For He Is Neither a “Natural Born Citizen” Nor a “Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution”
http://puzo1.blogspot.com/2012/10/barack-obama-is-ineligible-to-be.html (10/28/2012) (updated 11/10/2012)

2. TPC, Is Barack Hussein Obama II Even a U.S. Citizen?
http://www.obamabirthcertificate.net/2012/06/is-usurper-obama-even-us-citizen.html (6/24/12)

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- teapartyconservatism
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:38pm
  3. D. Zahn, WND, Justice Clarence Thomas: “We’re ‘evading’ eligibility” http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/142101/ (04/17/2010)
  
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- kat747
  Posted on January 19, 2013 at 8:17pm
  Put the aliases aside for a moment. He started out as Barry Dunham and where are the legal papers that establish his adopted name of Barry Soetoro that he used when he attended Occidental College and NYU as a foreign student ?
  Then he “takes” the name of his father. Where are the legal name change papers to prove the name Barak H. Obama ?
  One would “think” that if a person wanted to run for President of the USA he would at the very least
  use his legal name.
  P.S. His “legal” name on his so-called Hawaiian birth certificate should have legally read “Barry Dunham” as his mother was NOT married to his father as his father was currently married to his second wife.
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 12:23am
  Dude if you’re quoting Orly Taitz you’re reaching pretty far. Hawaii already, time and time again, declared and proved he was born there and has a birth certificate. Claiming to be a birther is just telling the world how ignorant you are.
  
  Here’s my question to you: how come so many tea party birthers swear Ted Cruz (born in Canada) is eligible to run for president? The constitution is clear – you have to be born in the US in order to be a citizen, and Cruz was clearly not.
  
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woodyee
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:18pm
“Religion gets its morality from us, not the other way around.”

I understood where he was coming from until he said this. Now I think he’s a Twinkie shy of a defense.

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- qualityrkc
  Posted on January 29, 2013 at 4:33pm
  Religions are man made. Look at the progression of christian morality over time. Obviously the religions morals have changed with society and not the other way around. It’s not even a radical thing to say. To say an infallible being (god) can be responsible for such horrific attitudes expressed in the old testament is insane. Was slavery and stonings moral 2k years ago but not now? Unless slavery and stoning people are moral treatments then that would make god wrong bc these are the actions he called for in the old testament. How could an infallible being be wrong about morality? Only possible answer is that these morals were made by men and written in the bible. And if that is the case, and you get your morality from the bible…then yes religion gets its morality from humans and not the other way around. This is very simple logic.
  
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barber2
Posted on January 19, 2013 at 1:18pm
” The Bill of Rights exists to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority.” Huh ? Dude, the Bill of Rights exists to protect each one of us from tyranny be it from the majority or, lately, from the minority ! Next…

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