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Jan. 20, 2013 1:07pm Madeleine Morgenstern

Retired Gen. David Petraeus resigned his post as CIA director last year after it was revealed he had had an extramarital affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell. Statistics compiled by the Associated Press reveal that sex is among the major reasons that senior military officers are fired. (Getty Images)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Sinclair, fired from his command in Afghanistan last May and now facing a court-martial on charges of sodomy, adultery and pornography and more, is just one in a long line of commanders whose careers were ended because of possible sexual misconduct.

Sex has proved to be the downfall of presidents, members of Congress and other notables. It’s also among the chief reasons that senior military officers are fired.

At least 30 percent of military commanders fired over the past eight years lost their jobs because of sexually related offenses, including harassment, adultery, and improper relationships, according to statistics compiled by The Associated Press.

The figures bear out growing concerns by Defense Department and military leaders over declining ethical values among U.S. forces, and they highlight the pervasiveness of a problem that came into sharp relief because of the resignation of one of the Army’s most esteemed generals, David Petraeus, and the investigation of a second general, John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan.

The statistics from all four military services show that adulterous affairs are more than a four-star foible. From sexual assault and harassment to pornography, drugs and drinking, ethical lapses are an escalating problem for the military’s leaders.

With all those offenses taken together, more than 4 in every 10 commanders at the rank of lieutenant colonel or above who were fired fell as a result of behavioral stumbles since 2005.

The recent series of highly publicized cases led to a review of ethics training across the military. It also prompted Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, to conclude that while training is adequate, it may need to start earlier in service members’ careers and be reinforced more frequently.

Still, officials struggle to explain why the problem has grown and they acknowledge that solving it is difficult and will take time.

“I think we’re on the path. I think the last two defense secretaries have made this a very high priority and have very much held people accountable. But we’ve got a ways to go,” said Michele Flournoy, a former undersecretary of defense under President Barack Obama.

She said the military must enforce a “zero tolerance” policy and work to change the culture so service members are held accountable and made to understand that their careers will be over if they commit or tolerate such offenses.

“The policy is in place,” she said. “I don’t know that it’s as evenly and fully enforced as intended.”

For top officers, the numbers are startling.

Eighteen generals and admirals, from one star to four stars, were fired in recent years, and 10 of them lost their jobs because of sex-related offenses; two others were done in by alcohol-related problems.

The figures show that 255 commanders were fired since 2005, and that 78 of them were felled by sex-related offenses. A breakdown: 32 in the Army, 25 in the Navy, 11 in the Marine Corps and 10 in the Air Force.

Alcohol and drug-related problems cost the jobs of 27 commanders – 11 in the Navy, eight in the Army, five in the Marine Corp(s and three in the Air Force.

“It’s troublesome,” said Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy’s top spokesman. “Navy leadership is taking a look at why personal conduct seems to be a growing reason for why commanding officers are losing their commands. We’re trying to get to the root causes. We don’t really fully understand it.”

He and other military leaders agree that poor leadership, bad judgment, and ethical lapses, rather than operational failures, are growing factors in the firings. But Kirby said it’s not clear whether that has anything to do with the strains of the past 10 years at war or simply reflects deteriorating morals among the general population.

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the ethics review in November. He said that “when lapses occur, they have the potential to erode public confidence in our leadership and in our system for the enforcement of our high ethical standards. Worse, they can be detrimental to the execution of our mission to defend the American people.”

Anu Bhagwati, executive director of the Service Women’s Action Network, said there is more focus on this issue now than ever in the past, but that there really is no sufficient deterrent in place. She said a major problem is that military commanders are responsible for deciding what cases should move forward.

She said military lawyers, who are trained and have a greater appearance of impartiality, should make such an important legal decision.

The statistics gathered and analyzed by the AP represent a very conservative estimate of the problem. While the Army, Navy and Marine Corps provided details for all military commanders who were lieutenant colonels or commanders and above for 2005 until now, Air Force officials said they could only provide data for colonels and above from 2008 until today.

Also, the figures reflect only officers who were in command positions. The numbers don’t include what could be hundreds of officers fired from other jobs, such as administrative or other military posts. Military officials said they only collect data on officers in command who are fired.

The reasons for the firings are also murky. In some cases, no reason was listed; in other cases, it was vague – such as “ethics” or “leadership” or for fostering a bad command climate.

There also are varying degrees of publicity when such action is taken.

In Sinclair’s case, the charges and impending court martial have received extensive coverage. The five pages of allegations, which involve his conduct with five women who were not his wife, include one count of forcible sodomy, two counts of wrongful sexual conduct, six counts of inappropriate sexual relationships, and eight counts of violating regulations. He could receive life in prison if convicted.

But in many other cases, particularly of those below the rank of general, there is little public notice if the senior officer is in the Army or Air Force. The Navy, however, issues a public statement every time a commander is removed from a job.

The figures also highlight the Navy’s reputation for being quick to justice. Although it is the second smallest of the four military services, the Navy has relieved the most commanders, 99, over the past eight years. By comparison, it was 83 for the Army, 41 for the Marines and 32 for the Air Force.

Dismissing a commander from a job does not mean that officer is forced out of the military. In some of the more serious cases, officers may be discharged or forced to resign. But in many other cases, service members may go on to another job for some time.

Still, a dismissal often signals the end of an officer’s career, and with no chance for promotion, officers will often retire or leave the service.

The Army is the largest of the military services, reaching a peak of about 570,000 active duty soldiers at the height of the Iraq war. It is supposed to cut 80,000 troops by 2017. The Marine Corps is the smallest service, with about 202,000 at its peak during the wars and is set to slim down to about 182,000. The Navy has about 322,000 active duty forces and the Air Force has about 328,000.

The other reasons for dismissals by the services cover a broad range of offenses, from assault and drug and alcohol use to being a poor or abusive leader. There are also instances of fraud as well as a few cases where Navy officers commanding a ship have hit something, such as a buoy or another ship.

Four generals have lost their jobs in recent years as a result of public scandals. All were dismissed while Robert Gates was defense secretary:

-Gen. Michael Moseley, the Air Force Chief of Staff, was dismissed in 2008 for failing to address several nuclear-related mishaps by the service.

- Army Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley and Army Maj. Gen. George Weightman were dismissed because of the poor outpatient treatment of wounded soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in 2007.

-Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal resigned after members of his staff made disparaging remarks about Obama’s national security team, including Vice President Joe Biden. A Pentagon investigation later cleared him of wrongdoing.

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strawberry411a
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:48pm
What a surprise. So the military is reflecting the complete disintegration of American morals, culture and tradition. What do you expect when you remove every semblance of honor, order and Christian virtue from every aspect of our lives. It will get much worse.

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- Gold Coin & Economic News
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:31pm
  Well Bill Clinton started the trend or sexual misconduct so what do we expect from our military leaders? And Obama is the second coming according to Newsweek:
  http://www.isthatbaloney.com/creepy-newsweek-cover-calls-obama-the-second-coming/
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:39pm
  “”Sex has proved to be the downfall of presidents, members of Congress and other notables. It’s also among the chief reasons that senior military officers are fired.”"
  
  Only the ones that do not comply with the liberal, socialist agenda.
  
  Slick willy comes to the top of my mind.
  
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- Sgt_Rock
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:41pm
  Strawberry – I completely agree. There was a time when an officer in any branch of our military could be counted on to be honorable and ethical. Things have certainly changed . The military is generally the last bastion of values in a free society. The actions of the leadership will be mimicked by the rank and file. Leadership sets the bar and the bar gets lower and lower by the day. Our military is losing its way, led by a by a commander in chief who never held any true American values in the first place. God help us…we need it now more than ever.
  
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- DesdemonasCrew
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:02pm
  @TONYPRO
  Any sentence beginning with “Slick Willy comes…” should not be used.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:16pm
  I am an active duty LTC with almost 26 years of service
  
  Leaders at the highest levels of our military have traded morality for popularity. They are more worried about what John Stewart thinks, than what John Adams wrote.
  
  Their character is less in line with the founding fathers, and more in line with Lady Ga Ga.
  
  Just over a year ago, they surrendered the moral high-ground. When Obama ended DADT, they shut their mouths, knowing it would hurt morale and discipline, smiled, and lied and claimed it is all about leadership and respect.
  
  Respect? Really? 2.5% of the population has 64% of the nation’s syphilis, made up 57% of new HIV cases last year, did 1/3 of all child molestations (yes, Jerry Sandusky is gay), and they have the highest suicide, drug addiction, and alcoholism rates.
  
  Recently, an officer at the Command and General Staff College was fired, when he told the truth in his class on radical Islam. Another retired Colonel at the same school is teaching a scenario where leaders train to go to South Carolina and fight Tea Party Members. Hmmmm, what do you supposed would have happened if his scenario was more realistic, and he had folks training to shoot OWS people?
  
  We call good bad, and we call bad good.
  
  As a nation we are crumbling, and our military is crumbling.
  
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- Bum thrower
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:49pm
  Place women in every conrner; every command and duhhhhh. I’m not supposed to notice her “DD”‘s under her tunic?? Now deploy us to ‘some unknown locatoin’…and what do you think is gonna happen……duhhhhhh.
  
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- Befuddle
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:15pm
  This video is a must see – https://vimeo.com/52009124 – Agenda: Grinding America Down – Written, produced, and directed by a State Representative. Starting 40 years ago you will see what has been stealthfully happening to our country without us ever being aware. Afterwards, all of what has been/is happening will make sense ( although it will make you feel sick at the same time ) and you will be able to connect the dots from Karl Marx/fabianism, and the Communist Part USA, straight to Barrack Obama. A must see and a must share.
  
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- FieldJudge
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:20am
  Glenn Beck Predictions & Warnings: Watch for the Left to attack and discredit our military, one of if not the remaining institutions that stands to defend America. Note how the Left will focus, take actions do anything to weaken our military and their ability to defend US citizens, the states and country… Up investigations, dig, dig, dig. Plant, create turmoil, distrust to soften the target: The US Military.
  
  Imperial President edict to Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the ethics review in November. He said that “when lapses occur, they have the potential to erode public confidence in our leadership and in our system for the enforcement of our high ethical standards. Worse, they can be detrimental to the execution of our mission to defend the American people.” (of course!)
  
  Ding ding… Wake up folks
  
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- NavyAFCM
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 4:04am
  Political Correctness and the input from civilians in government has been slowly destroying out military for the past 25yrs. This is by no means to take anything away from the patriots in the military today, they are all true patriots and hero’s. Our leaders today in the military, grew up in a society where we must be kinder and more gentle and they know what is better for our young men and women. Well I hate to tell you, it isn’t working! Perfect example…pushing Don’t ask/Don’t Tell and then even doing away with that and making homosexual practice excepted. Look at the handwritting on the wall….It is all about destroying our country slowly.
  
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- Melvin Spittle
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 1:27pm
  rangerskippy, I agree with your assessment as it is obvious to all career servicemen & women. I am a retired senior noncom and have observed the train wreck social experiment the military has been. Combat readiness and training are secondary to this experiment. We are sacrificing readiness to accommodate a small minority. Now that the door is open, transsexuals are pushing to serve openly in the military. The military is now actively supporting gay chaplains while pressuring chaplains that do not agree to get with the new program or resign. There is no place for Christians in the military anymore. What is happening with senior leadership at all levels of the command is not surprising.
  
  Get ready for the military’s new government approved & supported religious doctrine for spiritual readiness.
  
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- ConservaTEA
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:48pm
  You nailed it (no pun intended).
  
  I saw it first-hand during my Navy career. It will definitely get a lot worse before it gets better.
  
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Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:43pm
This happens for the same reason that so many teachers commit sexual offences – they never grew up and entered the real world. When you grow up you are supposed to leave school. If you are not ready to get a job and join society, you join the army. Then, a few years later when you grow up some more you are supposed to leave the army. Military leaders are like teachers; they are big children who never finished growing up, and never tried to live as an adult in the grown up world

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- SuttonShimai
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:09pm
  After college I lived on my own and worked for a few years, I served a mission for my church overseas, served in the Army in my late 20′s, got married in my early 30′s, raised 5 kids and homeschooled them. THEN I became a teacher. I agree with your assessment that many teachers have never left school to experience the real world.
  
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- causticwit
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 1:43am
  I have to be blunt here. Xylliab your a Idiot. Many young men and woman join or services. Like many professions they have some who have not matured. However most are mature beyond your wildest dreams. As far as sex….its the women that start this crud. Two consensual adults doing what they do….regardless of marriage then one screams this is not fair….normally the female. Or it is the freaking libs that do it and force the female to say she was a victim. I don’t buy into any of it.
  
  Just saying
  
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- Xylliab_of_the_Znarghh
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 3:31pm
  Wow, even if you think I am wrong about the majority of our servicemen and women being overgrown children who opt for the security of being told what to do because they aren’t ready for the responsibility of figuring it out for themselves, your contention that the women are responsible for the transgressions of all the guys in the army who can’t keep it in their pants is the craziest damn thing I’ve ever heard!
  
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RANGER1965
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:41pm
“Keepin’ it in your pants,” will always be a weakness of Alpha Males. I suspect it’s always been thus.

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:38pm
  Campaigning in the boudoir helped seal Napoleon the 3rd’s & France’s fate during the Franco-Prussian war.
  
  Poor chap was so tender from all love bugs he had caught, he had a painful time riding a horse & commanding the troops. So he retired from the field & the rest is history.
  
  Who says STDS don’t kill?
  
  “He had many mistresses. During his reign, it was the task of Count Felix Bacciochi, his social secretary, to arrange for trysts and to procure women for the emperor’s favours. His affairs were not trivial sideshows: they distracted him from governing, affected his relationship with the empress, and diminished him in the views of the other European courts.[53] Among his numerous love affairs and mistresses were”
  
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- CafeConservative
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:04pm
  This
  ““Keepin’ it in your pants,” will always be a weakness of Alpha Males. I suspect it’s always been thus.”
  
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- Mike76
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 3:00pm
  The absence of morality and self control tells me they weren’t “alphas” to begin with. If such a ridiculous thing [alpha male] really existed.
  
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toto
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:38pm
This is an easy one to answer. There has been an erasing of the boundaries between right and wrong, good and evil, to the point that most people can’t say unequivocally “this is good, this is bad” even about the simplest of things. No honor, no integrity, no character, no honesty, just do what ever feels good at the moment no matter the effect on others or society. Liberals say they love children, but they have been, and are an increasingly far greater danger to the health, well being and happiness of children than any gun threat, that is if they are allowed to survive a pregnancy.

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freeberty
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:37pm
What do you expect from people that are in the government’s biggest welfare jobs program?

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:12pm
  What is welfare like about being away from your family 6 to 12 months at a time?
  
  What is welfare about working?
  
  Not even close.
  
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ChiefGeorge
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:37pm
This generations will not turn to God and moral based truths to alleviate the problem, so may I ask who will or who among the military are fit to rise to the top? Who? Who would want to only to face firings at will.

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MisterSarcastic
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:35pm
So what this article is saying is that most men have two heads and only enough blood to operate one at a time.

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Cuthalu
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:30pm
Why? Because when they declare martial law they only want “go along to get along” leaders in place that will do what they are told, no questions asked. Same reason of them removing some secret service agents by suggesting they used prostitutes last year. Look across the board and look at it objectively, they are preparing for something they KNOW and plan on coming. None of what they do is by accident.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:06pm
  Exactly … this is all part of the agenda.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:08pm
a message from alex jones….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Dw6xcV8uNZM

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- MisterSarcastic
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:37pm
  Don’t really care to watch Alex. But thanks.
  
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- PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:19pm
  @SOY – thanks that was a great video from Alex. Not too long either. Beautiful mountain scenery. The message was clear. We are in grave danger.
  
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Chromo200
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:06pm
When you take God off the table you will loose your moral compass .. No morals and one should not get upset that people behave this way. We have been teaching that it is all about “ME”. “It feels good, do it”..

There is no shame that people get caught with their pants down .. These generals will get good, high paying jobs, because they have done a lot of favors to companies that provide support to the military.

A president cheats on his wife, and he is hailed as a great president. A congressman boyfriend runs a escort service out of the house and the congressman get reelected time and time and now may become senator. and the list goes on. People give/sell guns to Drug Cartel, and nothing happens to them, they actually are hailed as great people.

So why wouldn’t people without morals think that they should abide by the laws. Laws are not for them.

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kathy@49
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:03pm
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Rock_Moninoff
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:59pm
So I guess the Commander-in-Thief will fire himself for having sex in the back of limo with Larry Sinclair??

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ForestHollow
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:59pm
So this is something new???? Folks are acting like this is a new behavior when really it has been around as long as soldiers are sent away from their families into foreign countries and are in close proximity to willing partners. I certainly don’t approve of it but this is really a lot of media hype!

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- Dismayed Veteran
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 11:44am
  Well, George Patton did say ” “A soldier who won’t f*** is a soldier who won’t fight.”
  
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Gonzo
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:52pm
Wait until openly gay officers become more prominent. They’ll be immune from dismissal.

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- TheFifthColum
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:12pm
  You are probably right. It will be Politically incorrect to even bring it up.
  
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- Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:27pm
  Absolutely.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:44pm
  They claim they can’t ruin marriage or anything else. But they will. On JMG they were hoping that Pre-exposure Prophylaxis (PrEP) of HIV would allow them to throw away their condoms so they could go barebacking with wild abandon. Those are the smarter ones. But PreP had only a 40% protection rate. You got to ask why they want gay marriage or to serve in the military?
  
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AUsername
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:50pm
well in the military folks are sexually deprived which is why i guess strip clubs do very well in areas with a big military population.

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BlackCrow
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:48pm
Politics pure and simple. All of these staff level flag officers are just as much political animals as any congressman. CnC wants you out you will be out and replaced by one of his lackeys. Either retire, be put out or exiled. If you fight then they will find something to courts marshal you to set an example.

Nothing new. Look up Billy Mitchel.

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- KernelOfTruth
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:08pm
  … followed by the loosening of ethics rules, no doubt …
  
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- honestynow
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:26pm
  Weren’t Gen. Hamm and Admiral Gaouett forced out because they tried to come to the rescue of the men in Benghazi?
  
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ares338
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:44pm
Sex with women other than your wife don’t you mean?

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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:41pm
did you think that people in the military are more moral and superior than the average american?

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- CatB
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:51pm
  Obama and co removing those who might present a “problem” with enacting his agenda .. at least my take on it.
  
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- FlagWavingPatriot
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:18pm
  Do I think everyone in the military is morally superior to their civilian counterparts? No.
  
  Do I think many people in the military are morally superior to their civilian counterparts? Yes.
  
  I find selflessness a superior trait, especially in today’s society.
  
  For those Soldiers, Airmen, Sailors, Marines and Coast Guardsman who understand what they’re volunteering to do and understand their oath, they are superior. It takes a lot of courage, commitment and discipline to go into harm’s way for one’s nation and its way of life. That kind of devotion is rare.
  
  That isn’t to say that the military doesn’t have its fair share of bad apples, it does. I was merely answering your question.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:25pm
  @FlagWavingPatriot
  Yes, i know many serve with the best intentions. But at the same time, you must realize that they are cut from the same cloth as the rest of us. They are not doing it for free and many join hoping to make a career out of it. Also, there are some that join because they like the aggressiveness of fighting/shooting. Just trying to find a balance here. We can pray for them, but should not worship them
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:25pm
  I would say that military people are slightly different. you can find native blue eye blonds in Spain & yet the populations of Spain & Sweden are demonstrably different.
  
  Being in the military is not just about making it a career or financial gain.
  
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Arshloch
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:36pm
To quote General George S. Patton, “a man who won’t f*** won’t fight.” Sex is often used for an excuse to fire a General but the true reason falls more on the side of not bowing and katowing to a civilian, like obummer, on the proper method to obtain a victory.

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- Dano.50
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:37pm
  If you want to go all psychological, wouldn’t a soldier deprived of sex be just about willing to savage, maul and destroy anything in his path in order to get the bloody stinking war over with?
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:27pm
  Dano.50
  
  That could end badly as civilians decide on the tempo of the war & how many resources to put into the effort or not put into the effort.
  
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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 2:26pm
  The so called “civilians” bossing around the military are the most despicable cowardly criminals on the face to the earth. They have been for decades now. I have absolutely zero respect for them.
  
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CatB
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:30pm
Obama trying to get rid of anyone who might cause him a “problem” in his second term .. and the continuing destruction of America and Americans.

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woodyee
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:30pm
Furthermore, foreknowledge of a commander’s pecadillo’s opens him and her up to?

POLITICAL PERSUASION.

THAT, my friends, is more dangerous than anything a commander can be accused of, short of espionage.

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- barber2
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:39pm
  Hmmm: ” political persuasion ” …think that is also known as ” a call from the White House…IRS…FBI .” It’s Obama II time….
  
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banjarmon
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:23pm
Fired for normal sex…but NOT for GAY sex…..SHAME!!!!!!!!

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woodyee
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:19pm
What kind of behavioral barriers can you possibly sustain in the military, when sodomites are openly accepted?

Acceptance of immoral behavior leads to a BREAKDOWN of moral behavior – it doesn’t take a pseudo-psycho-babbling “scientist” from the APA to figure THAT one out! You have nothing more to do than drive downtown in ANY major city, to draw the same conclusion…

…unless of course, you’re a kool-aid, bilge-swallowing, propaganda parrot of the Left…

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- Keatonc333
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:31pm
  so just to get this straight. you blame inner city problems on gay people?
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:42pm
  you know, heterosexual couples engage in sodomy sometimes as well
  
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- woodyee
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:46pm
  Soy, I love ya, bro, but sometimes…
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:07pm
  just pointing out a fact….sodomy is not limited to gays anymore
  
  would be more accurate if you said “****” or “homos”
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:20pm
  wow, i cant believe you cant say the word f_a_g_s anymore…
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:22pm
  soybomb315_II
  
  you know, heterosexual couples engage in sodomy sometimes as well
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  What percentage, how often & in marriage or not? Number of partners, high risk encounters, as well as order are important.
  
  This is shown in comparing lifetime # of partners of Africans with those of American. They are about equal.
  
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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:28pm
  No I blame inner city problems & other problems for making gays.
  
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SamIamTwo
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:15pm
Some of them should not get their pension, others will…depends on the severity of the violation.

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Chuck Stein
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:14pm
“charges of sodomy, adultery and pornography and more”
I do NOT want to know the details, BUT soldiers & sailors have had pornography for decades & when I was in (1970s & 1980s) it was merely a personal problem for them — not a disciplinary matter. The ships stores even sold the junk. As for “sodomy” — that is no longer against Uniform Code of Military Conduct. Adultery — that is still conduct unbecoming an officer.

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- barber2
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:38pm
  CHUCK: ” go figure ” these the new standards in the ” fundamentally changed ” America which used to be known as “degraded ” just like ” redistributed” used to be called ” stealing.!” The Lefties have such strange, new word meanings…
  
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- colascguy
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 1:43pm
  It was sodomy with a female. See if it was with another male he would have been promoted.
  
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