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Teenage Boy Allegedly Shoots 5, Including 3 Children, to Death in New Mexico Home

Jan. 20, 2013 2:55pm Madeleine Morgenstern

A Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Department crime lab is stationed outside a home south in Albuquerque, N.M., on Sunday, Jan. 20, 2013, where two adults and three children were found shot to death.(Photo: AP)

(AP) — A horrific scene awaited officers responding to an emergency call at a New Mexico home – five family members dead, all with multiple gunshot wounds. The victims were later identified as parents and their three young children and the suspected attacker as their 15-year-old son.

Investigators trying to piece together what led to the violence late Saturday night found several guns believed used in the shootings, including one assault rifle, Bernalillo County Sheriff Dan Houston said Sunday. The owner of the weapons hasn’t been determined.

“There’s no other way to say it, except that we have a horrific crime scene down there that we are working on,” said Houston.

Nehemiah Griego, 15, was arrested on murder charges following the shootings at the residence in a rural area southwest of downtown Albuquerque, the sheriff’s department said.

Authorities identified the victims as Greg Griego, 51, his wife Sara Griego, 40, and three of their children: a 9-year-old boy, Zephania Griego, and daughters Jael Griego, 5, and Angelina Griego, 2.

“Right now we’re to the meticulous points of processing the scene and collecting physical evidence, and this is a vast scene with a lot of physical evidence,” Bernalillo County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Lt. Sid Covington said Sunday.

Word of the shootings traveled quickly through the law enforcement community, and officials began offering their condolences for Greg Griego, a spiritual leader known for his work with firefighters and the 13 years he spent as a volunteer chaplain at the county jail.

“Chaplain Griego was a dedicated professional that passionately served his fellow man and the firefighters of this community,” Fire Chief James Breen said in a statement. “His calming spirit and gentle nature will be greatly missed.”

Jail Chief Ramon Rustin said Griego was instrumental in the creation of the Metropolitan Detention Center’s chaplain program and worked to get inmates integrated back into the community.

Griego also was a former member of the pastoral staff at Calvary, a Christian church in Albuquerque. As part of his work there, he oversaw the Straight Street program for jail inmates.

On Sunday, a police roadblock cut off public access to the narrow dirt road that leads to the home, which is surrounded by trees and an agricultural field on one side.

Neighbors said they saw the first police cars and ambulances arrive at the home Saturday night. The road was blocked and word of the shootings began to make its way through the neighborhood.

Peter Gomez, a 54-year-old carpenter who lives about 200 yards from the home, said he had seen the family – a husband and wife and their four children – pass by many times but didn’t know them personally.

“It’s a horrible thing,” Gomez said. “You see all this stuff that happens all over the country, the shootings in the schools and theaters, and then it happens right here. It’s sad.”

Authorities declined to release details of any conversation that the 15-year-old had with investigators, but they said he was the Griegos’ son. The sheriff’s office said he is charged with two counts of murder and three counts of child abuse resulting in death.

The sheriff’s office said it wouldn’t release any further information about the case until Sheriff Dan Houston holds a news conference Tuesday morning.

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Associated Press writer Jacques Billeaud in Phoenix contributed to this report.

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This post has been updated.

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Comments (309)

KingCanon
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:51pm
Let’s face it folks…
Satan is alive and well on planet earth!
Like Dems he never lets a good string of crisis’ go to waste!

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- barber2
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:53pm
  KING: When one looks around at world events today, it is hard to disagree with your statement. We need a world-wide exorcism…
  
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- KeystoneState
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:38pm
  Ban 15 year olds!
  
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- sbish
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:54pm
  Ban New Mexico homes!
  
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- AR does not stand for ASSAULT RIFLE
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:16pm
  Ban New Mexico homes!…but I keep all my stuff in one.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:21pm
  Keep in mind, the MSM is out there looking for every crime possible, where an AR could be used.
  
  They ignore reality, in that of the average 100 murders in the US, rifle of all designes are used less than 3 times. I will say it again, of all murders in the US, rifles are used in less than 3% of them. Last year, more people were killed in America with knives, than with rifles.
  
  So why is it that Obama and crew want the rifles, but ignore the over 6000 murders with pistols?
  
  Last year in the US, half of those murdered were black, and most were young black males.
  
  In the US, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, and do 1/2 of all murders. If we could lower black murder rates to the same as whites, we would lower the national murder per capita rate by 40%, and save so many black lives. I sure would like to save black lives, how about you? Nothing will be done about it, until people become vocal about it.
  
  There is no such thing as an atavistic criminal (born criminal). Crime is not genetic.
  
  While it is not genetic, we do know that our violent crime in America is intrinsically tied to our welfare population and democrat initiated programs like federal housing.
  
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- patmajek
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:44pm
  Seems to me that most of these recent mass shootings are primarily in Blue states. Yet another reason to live (and I mean that literally) in a Red state! Naturally, the media will blame this on guns. How about we finally admit it might have something to do with progressive indoctrination in liberal public schools while being raised by union parents in a Democratic state!
  
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- Freedomlover_US
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:51pm
  I find it interesting that people accuse Obama of “exploiting a tragedy,” yet the religious right uses this to say that these things happen because there isn’t enough Christianity in the country.
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:09pm
  I’ve said this before, and I’ll say it again. This not a gun problem. This a cultural and moral problem, wherein society (we the people), not Government, needs reform. There were more guns in the hands of citizens during the revolution and afterwards then there is now, and there wasn’t blood spilling on the streets, except against tyrants and their minions. In fact, there was very little or no crime in most neighborhoods. Even up until the 1960′s students would go to school with their .22 rifles, or shotguns in their pickup trucks, and kids would not shoot each other heads off just for the heck of it. For the most part, a respect for the life and liberty of others, and a sound knowledge of good and bad, was instilled from a very young age, and all through out school. Obviously, our nation is facing a moral and religious crisis, not a ‘gun problem’. By the way, there’s no such thing as ‘gun violence’. We don’t address drunk driving by calling it car violence, but confront the drivers responsible, punish their actions, and in most cases petition the court to obligate them to attend driving classes and alcohol treatment classes. We punish the individual for his acts, not the public and their property.
  
  “A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.”
  
  “And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.”
  
  “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer.”
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:13pm
  @Freedomlover_US Ah, yes, because these last past decades of radical change and a Marxist ideology shoved down our throats have been so well. Truly they have made our once great cities even better! Just look at what the far left liberals have done to Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louise, Chicago, Los Angeles, Atlanta, etc. Such great cities for the rest of us to emulate.
  
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- Oath-keeper
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:40pm
  Here we go again, ready here is the unverified possible story before any facts are in, it could have been military style ar 15 and there are multiple guns maybe possibly more than one shooter maybe lets not wait until we get any facts we will continually change our story as possible facts come in… Stay tuned.
  
  Oathkerpers.org
  
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- valiant1776
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 10:54pm
  Where’s the leftist fake News Media? Where’s their nationwide propaganda machine on these stories? Oh, right, it doesn’t fit their agenda.
  
  Fla. teen Tyler Hadley killed parents with hammer, posted party info on Facebook, say cops
  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20080478-504083.html
  
  14 year old kills most of his family with a butter knife and a small piece of twine
  http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2011/01/18/14-year-old-kills-most-of-his/
  
  Police Say Man Killed His Family With Bat
  nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/PHI-Police-Say-Man-Killed-His-Family-With-Bat-124127144.html
  
  Son charged in baseball bat attack on Mich. family
  news.yahoo.com/son-charged-baseball-bat-attack-mich-family-184738292.html
  
  NYC Teen Beats Mother To Death With Bare Hands During ‘Drug Induced Seizure’
  elitedaily.com/elite/2012/nyc-teen-beats-mother-death-drug-induced-seizure/
  
  Georgia teen kills father with Samurai sword
  examiner.com/article/georgia-teen-kills-father-with-samurai-sword
  
  Staten Island Boy Accused of Murdering Family, Self in Gruesome Crime
  abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/staten-island-boy-kills-family-slashes-throat/story?id=11236997
  
  California Clinical and Forensic Neurological Psychologist Michael Perrotti said, “It’s a mental state, staging of violence leading to greater violence,” he said. “It percolates inside them, long before the act happens, particularly within families.”
  
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- phil1765
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:48am
  Freedomlover_US
  Are you suggesting that the religious right are using crisis to force you into christianity you moron? I don’t here the religious right calling for legislation that makes it illegal not to be a christian. You should probably have another hit, and rethink that.
  
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- Quagmir
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:53am
  @rangerskippy
  What you are saying and what the Dems do…. they Ban things when a problem is there. From your information all we need to do is ban ______’s.
  
  I dare not say it for being labeled a racist for using a dem talking point to simply show how dumb the thought proces that they have is.
  
  I live west of St. Louis. East STL(which is in Illinios) is very well known for its crime. We are 2nd to Detroit for the last 2 years and have been in the top 10 as long as i can remember. Chicago may take 1st place year though…
  
  Anyway, even though I live minutes from the crap hole that is east STL. We do not see violent crimes very often(not counting family types, they happen everywhere). No one is breaking into cars, houses or holding stores up for cash much less the worse crimes of rape and murder and so on.
  
  I dare say that the culture in our Suburb life is different from that of east STL.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 4:27am
  Assault is a human problem, inanimate objects cannot assault anyone. This is a human problem and until they look at that, all your arguments are wrong. ANYTHING can be used to assault people, that is just the tool they used for their assault. Grow up.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:30am
  Noticed that this story did not identify the actual weapon or weapons used. Pulled up several other stories and naturally HuffPo mentioned that several guns were found in the home, and ONE was a military styled weapon. Other articles gave a very brief over view of the story then jumped into Sandy Hook to and straight to AR15s.
  
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- db321
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:33am
  What does it mean in the Bible, when God said he would remove lawlessness from the earth?
  
  Based on the Sins of this Country for voting for Abortion, Gay Marriage and non support of Israel, we have not seen anything yet. I would love to have a Pastor debate me on this, because I would throw it back in their face for not teaching the Word of God on Sunday.
  
  How is that “if it feels good do it” sermon working out for your Congregation Pastor.
  
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- loriann12
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:45am
  @Quagmir – I have to totally agree with you. My husband is from Granite City (we met in the military) and I lived there for about 5 years after he got out. The very first time I drove from Cape Girardeau to Granite City, I made a wrong turn and ended up in East St. Louis…the only white face there. I got stares, but didn’t feel threatened.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:46am
  valiant1776
  
  Outstanding comments once again.
  
  Keep posting that list of murders the MSM does not want folks to see.
  
  I would add in there the recent murder of 12 year old Autumn Pasquale. She was killed for her BMX bike. As soon as the MSM discovered that her killers were two black teens, they dropped the story and ran from it.
  
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- JRook
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 8:57am
  One of the most obvious signs of ignorance is an individual who lets their ideology get in the way of their brain. So you sleep better at night using terms like “libs” and equating them to satan. Here’s a thought how about considering how a 15 year old could have had such easy access to an assault weapon. In most states it is illegal for a 15 year old to buy a cigarettes and beer and can’t drive a car. While I don’t believe there is a need to ban any particular gun there is a need to have every gun registered and the registered owner held criminally and civilly liable for any criminal activity their gun was involved in, unless they report the gun stolen within 72 hours. There is no reason this gun should not have been kept under lock and key.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:20am
  JRook
  
  So what if a 15 year old stole car keys, and use a car to run up on a sidewallk, and run a bunch of people over? What if a 15 year old used house hold chemicals to poison folks. What if they made a bomb?
  
  This whole “assault weapon” is a term used by folks who are ignorant. Had he grabbed a short barrled pump shotgun intended for deer hunting, and killed a whole family, would you call it an “assault weapon”? In the dark of night, had he slipped through the house, and beat people to death with a seven iron, would it be an “assault golf club”? “Assault” is an action, not an object.
  
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- rosegrower
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 10:00am
  @Rangerskippy
  “There is no such thing as an atavistic criminal (born criminal). Crime is not genetic.” – I would disagree with that, Ranger. There are people who are genetically predisposed to violence. A study done at Chino State Prison in California (the results of which were censored to the MSM by the NAACP, alleging they were “racist) showed a link between having violent offenders in one’s background overrode upbringing in a sampling of white male adoptees who were convicted of violent crimes. Each of these offenders had been taken out of their bio-parents’ home and placed in infancy with normal, middle- to upper-middle class families in which there was no history of crime – and every one started showing signs of psychopathy by age 6.
  
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- jdtanker
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 10:15am
  MSM only exploits “white gun crime” with “assault rifles” while they ignore Chicago. Definition of “assault”; a : a violent physical or verbal attack
  b : a military attack usually involving direct combat with enemy forces
  c : a concerted effort (as to reach a goal or defeat an adversary)
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  a : a threat or attempt to inflict offensive physical contact or bodily harm on a person (as by lifting a fist in a threatening manner) that puts the person in immediate danger of or in apprehension of such harm or contact.
  Ban all “assault words, rocks, sticks, knives, cars, fists, in Bush’s case(shoes), rope, candlesticks, poison, baseball bats, hockey, football, wrenches, bows and arrows, axes, nun chucks, and of most of all, bow staffs. Then we can all live in harmony and no one will ever be hurt.
  
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- TH30PH1LUS
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 11:08am
  BLAZE,
  
  I wonder if you will also be posting articles on the people murdered today by drunk drivers? Or are you taking your cues from MSNBC & CNN, and only reporting murders with the “weapon of choice”?
  
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- mecanic
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 11:22am
  @rangerskippy……outstanding post. liberals just hate facts.
  
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- WATER-THE-TREE
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 6:29pm
  The parents took his xbox away as a form of punishment so he just decided to play his FPS game in real life.
  
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- Yeah_Buddy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Nehemiah? They could have gave him a biblical middle name…
  
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Platonician
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:51pm
This is horrible. America’s Gestapo, the FBI and the CIA will keep carrying out such atrocities until the public begs to be disarmed.

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- RDavis49
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:35pm
  Like you… I believe the government is behind all these shootings. I believe they find the weak depressed minded, the losers, the socially rejected, the bullied, the killer video game addicts and any others they can effectively manipulate or drug them up by whatever means (directly or indirectly) and thus we see the results manifest itself in these sort of incidences. The liberal socialist have laid the ground work through movies, video games and a host of other desensitizing to have any number of these idiots at their disposal. Trust the socialist communist government if you wish, but I don’t trust them any further than I do Charles Manson. They’re crooked, corrupt, cold, calculating, lying, deceiving mobsters that are drunk with power and control and an unsatisfyable appetite for more. This is all about getting control of our 2nd amendment rights, nothing more.
  
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- Trigus
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:36pm
  “Police believe the teenager used an AR-15 semi automatic rifle in the shooting.” “Multiple weapons were retrieved from the house.” – It will always be the AR-15. There must be more to this since this senseless act of violence happened Saturday night and is not 24/7 on all media outlets.
  
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- Soulfire1975
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:40pm
  So an under age boy killed people, didn’t he know the law that he had to be 18 to buy any kind of rifle or shot gun and in some states 21 for a hand gun?
  
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- TheCalmOne
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:55pm
  You actually believe that the government orchestrated this?
  
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- The_Cabrito_Goat
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:21pm
  Plato, I wish just as much as you do that this event had never occurred in the first place.
  
  But it has, and we cannot blame government or society for the free will of a single individual.
  
  Assigning blame on scant evidence makes us no better than those who blame the Tea Party for every ill that befalls the nation. We simply cannot become those we hope to defeat.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:24pm
  @TheCalmOne
  Yes, I do, history teaches us that power corrupts the soul of individuals at the top, so I know that politicians are capable of that and more.
  
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- notalib56
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:28pm
  Are you people nuts? You think this is a government killing? Get help soon.
  
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- SpankDaMonkey
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:41pm
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  To the left this should be nothing but a late term abortion…..
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:58pm
  Forgot your meds, hon.
  
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- jungle J
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:03pm
  you can read the progressive operative comments designed to draw negative attention to anything sane…only the sane understand.
  
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- ViewPointtt
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:14pm
  With gradual increased frequency, reports are being released without inclusion of the suspect’s ID/name. In many instances the suspect is already in custody and still the identification is withheld. Choosing an underage teen for the purpose of demonization is very convenient because they then have the customized excuse to protect his identity. Not only is the teen demonized, but of all those “evil” weapons that “must be immediately confiscated before any other innocent is victimized” is especially demonized. They first began releasing reports without a photo ID… now, the name is also often excluded, or unidentifiable. This creates the ideal environment for free reign to artificially generate the news to feed to the masses for the purpose of social engineering to fit a particular political agenda; to cue the sheeple into one direction or the other… depending on what best suits the malevolent objective. After all, without a name/ID, reports cannot be validated… subsequently, the ulterior motive is easily and brilliantly accomplished.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:35pm
  @ViewPointtt
  You got it! Contrary to popular and naive belief, legislation will play a minor role in the confiscation of guns.
  They will rely on social engineering and mass manipulation. They have at their disposal all the techniques provided by social psychology. They will make people beg to be disarmed.
  
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- afishfarted
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:39pm
  So we can’t just say a moral society has broken down. We have to look for the boogie man behind under every rock. Did you ever stop to think that the boogie man you seek comes straight from hell? As the church goes, so does society
  
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- VoteBushIn12
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:46pm
  @VIEWPOINTTT
  
  Maybe it’s my fault for not wearing my Beck-issued tinfoil hat today, but your rambling sounds more like the subconscious mutterings of a paranoid schizophrenic than the logical analysis of our current socio-cultural situation as I’m sure you intended it to be.
  
  That being said, I will comment on its content nonetheless.
  
  There is much work published explaining the best way to deter violent psychopathic outbursts is to refrain from glorifying [reporting on] the perpetrator and to instead focus solely on the non-distinguishable characteristics of the attack and/or its victims. This disincentivizes future attention seeking sociopaths from following suit because infamy no longer becomes an achievable outcome.
  
  Does that make sense?
  
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- rickc34
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:55pm
  Could the government be behind this? It is possiable. An AR 15 ?
  
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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:00pm
  Yeah, now that the flashlight of the media is turned on you will hear more about the “Mass” shootings/murders since they decide that 4 or more equals a “MASS”. It’s like all other things in the News, if the Media has an agenda it will be spread all over the print and digital media until they get their way.
  
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- nzkiwi
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:11pm
  @ RickC
  
  No, it’s not possible.
  
  This is another sensless tragedy that occurs with dismaying frequency all over the world. Assigning a left-wing conspiratorial motive in order to support proposed gun control legislation is foolish.
  
  That said, the left will trip over each other in their haste to utilise this tragedy for their own political purposes.
  
  Even if the Obama administration is successful with their legislation, murders will still occur and they will continue to be used to further limit the 2nd Amendment.
  
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- ArchaicSEAL
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:16pm
  I always see people thinking others are crazy for believing the government could orchestrate such evil events in an effort to PAVE a way towards a goal. Why is it so crazy to believe such things given that ALL mankind has to propensity for evil and usually apply it? We always have seen evil manifest itself through government all throughout history… The Nazi regime under Hitler, the entire Mao regime and Stalin regime, and the late Roman empire are just a few. Was it a conspiracy theory at the time to say that: “Hitler was behind the ‘night of long knives?’” Or is it just everyone else out there that is evil and no evil exists within America? It is always the same story with human beings, it can happen ANYWHERE ELSE but once it happens at home they bury their head and yell in anger at anyone who points out the possibility to them.
  
  I keep an open mind. Will I jump to the conclusion that the government was somehow involved with mass shootings? No. But will I keep that possibility open as realistic, yes. Hell, we see and recognize “Fast and Furious” for what it is, a government conspiracy to cover up the fact that they were gun running. We see the whole Benghazi incident where the administration left some of my brothers to die and are trying desperately to ignore it and/or cover it up now. Are those things conspiracy theories? Government is not the good. Hence why many believe in small government. They are capable of ANYTHING… keep an open mind. Always.
  
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- BlasberryStrat
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:33pm
  I agree that there is way too much coincidence and ‘good’ timing with the amount of killings, types of killings (children, adults, celeb’s), and the weapon “of choice” used. First off this kid could have easily gotten the job done by use of a 9mm, but that’s for another time. The Gov. is after the AR platform because it’s the weapon that puts the average civilian on the playing field with the military choice of weapon. But let it be clear that the Middle Eastern people are far above ‘experts’ on URBAN fighting, and their #1 choice is the 9mm round – for a huge reason.
  
  Although I’m uncertain that Pelosi just hands people huge amounts of money to “kill”, I wouldn’t put it past a power with an agenda to “guarantee a life time of comfort” for that person’s remaining family. More so I believe that these “so called ” killings that are popping up are as staged (and faked) as every reality show produced. We’re dealing with a power that has George Lucas on their side. By use of propaganda and proper full blown movie magic, the Gov. is able (whether they do or not – they ARE able) to drum up faked mass killings all over and report as real. Then, simply clean off the makeup and assign the ‘actors’ to a new life of luxury. So “tin foil” or “not” – it can easily be done, and especially with a Country so full of Lemmings who actually believe that reality shows are..uh…real.
  
  So good post Platonician, there are many who believe as you do.
  
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- techengineer11
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:41pm
  This is horrible. We’ve literally lost a generation.. Not because we have semi automatic weapons but because the minds of our children have been poisoned by Hollywood and a Godless society.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:50pm
  Why can’t it just be that the 15yo boy was sick in the head? Is it so hard to simply believe in the simplest explanation that you have to invent contrived fantasies that do more harm than good? The truth is that getting rid of certain weapons won’t stop the crimes from being committed but only change how they are committed. Conspiracy theories like this are what’s sending all the moderates into the arms of the left. Quite frankly with talk like that I am start to become more and more ashamed of identifying myself as right leaning when there are just too many Birther and Truther whackjobs that also claim to be right leaning. I thought the lefties that claimed Bush was an alien to be weird, but you people have to take the cake!
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:54pm
  Hmmmmm, we do know though that the gov killed Seventy-six men, women and children in Waco, Texas.
  
  Can you believe just how racist the MSM is?
  
  Day after day, blacks are murdered across the land, and not a peep from the MSM. It is as if they want to keep it a secret.
  
  Last year in the US, half of those murdered were black, and most were young black males.
  
  In the US, blacks make up 12.5% of the population, and do 1/2 of all murders. If we could lower black murder rates to the same as whites, we would lower the national murder per capita rate by 40%, and save so many black lives. I sure would like to save black lives, how about you? Nothing will be done about it, until people become vocal about it.
  
  There is no such thing as an atavistic criminal (born criminal). Crime is not genetic.
  
  While it is not genetic, we do know that our violent crime in America is intrinsically tied to our welfare population and democrat initiated programs like federal housing.
  
  I am sure MTV is proud though, being for the past three decades, they have over and over shown the black man to be a thuggish brute, who has bitches and hoes, how treats women badly, sells drugs, takes part in gang activity, and does see after his own family. MTV is racist, and has perpetuated stereotyping against the black man.
  
  Keep it real.
  
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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:59pm
  Hey, shouldn’t you people be busy sending death threats and taunt to the grieving families of Newtown victims, all the while patting yourselves on the back for being love-filled Christians, unlike those mean Godless atheists?
  
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- am123
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:13pm
  I don’t know what happened in this particular case, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest the Sandy Hook shooting was NOT the work of a lone gunman. Here is the best work done so far on the Sandy Hook shooting and it blows the “lone gunman” scenario out of the water. Eat your heart out Glenn Beck. Eat your heart out lamestream media. Here is what you all should have been doing from day one when this story broke. Please share this video with everyone you can because America has been lied to:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwIvy1GXRU&list=PLEC70437FC0A27241&index=1
  
  The lone nutjob scenario is one thing, bringing a kind of closure to the story where the authorities can spoon feed a story of a lone madman to the gullible (or complicit?) media and then it is written in stone ever after to be used by those further their agenda. But a multiple shooter scenario is an entirely different animal altogether. Such a scenario speaks not of a lone, crazed gunman, but an organized, cold, calculating, unfathomable undercurrent of evil.
  
  Beware America. Evil is on the loose. It has an agenda. And the mainstream media is playing see no evil, hear no evil, report no evil.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:14pm
  @rangerskippy
  I won’t stand up for the government. The government has done unspeakable things. Waco and Ruby Ridge are two perfect examples of government evil at it’s most evil. You won’t hear me standing around praising big brother for keeping me safe. You also won’t hear me looking for conspiracies where there are none to be had. This is one of those times. This crime had nothing to do with black people, MTV, violent video games, violent movies, or lack of religion. It has everything to do with a sick kid that would have grown up to kill people regardless of whether he had access to an assault rifle or not.
  
  Btw, the last time I checked, the only think MTV was really promoting is that New Jersey is filled with idiots like Snookie and Jwoww. You’re like a decade behind in your scatological rhetoric.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:19pm
  Noam Chomsky on propaganda and manipulation, from his book “Manufacturing Consent” we can trust him in this case, his followers have the power now.
  
  “To start with, there are two different groups, we can get into more detail, but at the first level of approximation, there’s two targets for propaganda. One is what’s sometimes called the political class. There’s maybe twenty percent of the population which is relatively educated, more or less articulate, plays some kind of role in decision-making. They’re supposed to sort of participate in social life — either as managers, or cultural managers like teachers and writers and so on. They’re supposed to vote, they’re supposed to play some role in the way economic and political and cultural life goes on. Now their consent is crucial. So that’s one group that has to be deeply indoctrinated. Then there’s maybe eighty percent of the population whose main function is to follow orders and not think, and not to pay attention to anything — and they’re the ones who usually pay the costs.”
  
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- Publius
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:23pm
  The police said “We do know there was more than one weapon used in the crime, and it appears that one of them was a military-type assault rifle similar to an AR-15,”
  
  So it APPEARS similar to an AR-15. So these police officers DON”T know. So what are they trying to do, use this incident to further an agenda? These must not be trust worthy cops. They gie police a black eye and a bad reputation. I hope they appear to be terminated while on duty.
  
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- kryptonite
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:33pm
  Let me put it this way: Fast & Furious was true and we never would have found out, except for a whistle blower (who BTW was fired after the fact). There was the initial cover-up and then a cover-up of the cover-up.
  
  I don’t know about this case. It may be a drug-related crime. We won’t know if the criminals in the WH and DOJ are involved. However, it is a fact that the media is exploiting any crime committed with semi-automatic weapons.
  
  Twenty-nine children have died of the flu already, and we’re only half-way through this season. The elderly are being hit especially hard, but they are expendable. There are spot shortages of the vaccine, but that has been underplayed, as per usual. But stay focused on guns, Obamamedia. Your savior can’t control the flu, but he sure can control nut jobs and drug dealers.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:48pm
  @Publius
  Since you just promoted the killing of American Policemen for doing none other than their jobs, you have just won the “****** of the Week Award”. Congratulations for proving that no longer deserve the respect of your community. I only wish I could inform the police in the area of your view towards them. Even if I could, I am certain that most of them would still sacrifice their lives in the protection of yours.
  
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- am123
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:00pm
  Compare the footage of this school shooting in Brazil to the footage the media has provided for the Sandy Hook shooting:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3id88P6xlUk
  
  Now ask yourself, does the footage provided to the American public regarding Sandy Hook look realistic?
  
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- soundtracktowar
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:13pm
  You two are nuts. Go watch some Alex Jones.
  
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- msjoe43
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:15pm
  The majority of the media still continues to put the blame on the AR-15 as the gun that killed ## people in (fill-in-blank) town or city, (fill-in-the state) in order to push for the assault weapons ban.
  
  Police say a teenage boy fatally shot two adults and three children inside an Albuquerque, N.M. home with an AR-15-like weapon Saturday night. With an AR-15-like weapon…Police are you also pushing for the assault weapons ban? Tell us the truth to the true identity of the weapon that said teenage boy fatally shot two adults and three children inside an Albuquerque, N.M. home.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:16pm
  RogueRequest
  
  The stats I quote are up to date. Last year, 50% of all murders in the US. were done by African Americans. 50% of those murdered were also black Americans.
  
  Ignoring it will not make it go away.
  
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- BIG_G
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:33pm
  You are correct BLASBERRY, just like the witness protection prgm. Witnesses testify and then the FBI/GOVT dissappears them. It could have been easily done at sandy hooks, even by fooling the neighbors, school mates, and faculty.
  
  Someone may need to be waterboarded to get the truth out..
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 11:10pm
  Ranger, I think even you can agree that wishing for cops to dies isn’t going to make he African-American crime rate any lower than it is. I know your telling the truth about the discrepancy in murder rates between whites and blacks. Heck, I am NOT even calling you a racist, because I don’t believe you are one. I am saying that we need a little less, “THE BLACKS ARE KILLING EACH OTHER!!!” and a little more, “What can we do to solve the problem that has NOTHING to do with taking people’s guns?” Also, the African-American murder rate probably doesn’t have anything to do with this story, since they haven’t release the race of the kid as far as I know. Also, if you want to know something interesting, the vast majority of all serial killers tend to be white males. Female and black serial killers are super rare. So maybe there is something to be learned there as well.
  
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- ViewPointtt
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 2:39am
  Votebush,
  Your fault lies in not using your brain… so, you needed bother with your tin hat… as you do not have much to protect… and wouldn’t recognize an assault to your mushy little brain in any case. The proof is in the pudding, knucklehead. The proof is already apparent in the steady increase of unidentifiable suspects and unverifiable reports. This is rather new and so it is not difficult to see the gradual transformation in journalism. It was not long ago that respectable journalism required the basic facts… anything less was dismissed as weak and unprofessional. Even you should be able to see it eventually… unless you are too distracted following along with all the other mindless, putty-brained sheeple. You just have to start observing the increasing number of such reports to see it… even someone with a lazy brain will be able to see the pattern and the potential for social manipulation.
  
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- Jarhead 88
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 3:32am
  Tech, completely agree with your statement above.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 7:52am
  RogueRequest
  
  You are wrong. Black killing blacks has everything to do with the current topics on gun control, murder, mass killings….
  
  It is 50% of the national murder per capita rate. Thus it matters.
  
  Libs like to tell you that we have the highest murder per capita rate in the industrialized world, but they never tell you who is doing the killing, or being killed.
  
  The murder and violent crimes is tied to the hip with those on welfare and democrat socialism programs.
  
  Multiculturalism in the public schools, welfare, violent rap music, MTV….. all play a hand in the current murder rates, but the MSM and democrats want to paint it as a gun owning white problem.
  
  I will continue to spout the same statistics on every gun article the Blaze puts out. You may not know it, but my statistics (word for word) are now appearing all over the internet. People are copying and pasting what I write, and using it in other blogs and on all manner of internet sites.
  
  Keeping it real.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 8:57am
  Ranger, you are a bigot. Period. End. Of. Story.
  The real reason you want black people kicked off welfare is so your draw check can get just a little bigger and you can get more food stamps for yourself.
  
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- GuruMeditation
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:41am
  @SpankDaMonkey: Strongly agree.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 3:20pm
  RogueRequest
  
  Sorry bud, I do not get a welfare check, but I do get a government check. Being I am active duty Army, with 25 years of service and three combat deployments. When I retire, I continue to get a check.
  
  Actually, I do not want welfare to end for black folks. I want it to be systematically phased out for all folks. It is not sustainable, and it breeds crime and immorality.
  
  The founding fathers never envisioned a system, where the hard working, pay for the lazy and criminal.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 8:48pm
  @Ranger, your a bigot. You don’t just hate black people, you hate the poor too then. Good luck with trying to force millions out on to the street. Where do you think they will go when they have no food? They will come into your house and take yours. I hope you save the last of your ammo to save yourself and your family from the raping that will follow the looting.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 9:55pm
  RogueRequest
  
  There is much truth in your comments.
  
  When the system breaks and the welfare check does not go out, the welfare rates will rape, loot, and kill.
  
  Fear not, RangerSkippy is not running out of ammo any time soon, nor is he running out of food or water any time soon.
  
  So what did poor people in America do, prior to LBJ and the libs, deciding to hand our my tax money to the lazy people?
  
  If you do a little study, you will find that they were not starving to death, but they also were not the fattest people in the nation like the poor are now.
  
  You do not end welfare overnight, you do it systematically. You shut down the border, and you start transitioning the welfare crowd over to the jobs the illegal immigrants were doing.
  
  It is a win win situation. We fix immigration, lower crime, and lower taxes, and the fat welfare folks wil lose weight when they get off the couch.
  
  Hunger is a motivator. I know, I have been hungry before.
  
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- rangerskippy
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 10:11pm
  ment to say welfare “rats”, not “rates”.
  
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catty
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:39pm
same story different day

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- SR1911man
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:47pm
  Fast & Furious guns anyone?
  
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- Dkoonz
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:55pm
  Here we go again.
  
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- tonypro
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:03pm
  I am waiting for the next LARGE false flag to be used for their agenda.
  
  It’s only a matter of time, until then we can expect every means of sensationalism and false reporting, and word manipulation (lies) that can be mustered to keep it at the front of the fear tactics.
  
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- the-most-interesting-troll-in-the-world
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:15pm
  I do not always respond to news announcements of a massacre, but when I do, I prefer to have NO substantiated facts before I begin describing MY version of the killer’s politics, medical condition, mental state, game playing habits, race, religion, motivation, and specific details of magazine capacity.
  
  Stay defensive, my frightened friends.
  
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- The-Monk
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:21pm
  LOL Wang… : )
  
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- chicago76
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:46pm
  Most un interesting Troll. You are the one afraid. That is why you want our guns taken away. It’s just that we are not stupid enough to let you and all your juiced up, psyched out, psychotic buddies take them. And as for san antonio purple. As far as I can see, we still have the guns and you do not. You people from Mexico come here and bring all the crazy azz **** with you. You want to turn America into the same corrupt, failed, communist country you left. WTF.
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:55pm
  .
  LOL with you Monk at “” YOUR SENSEI “” s/he’s very articulate
  @ interesting troll ..that is a clever moniker lol
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:01pm
  Right on, CHICAGO!
  
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- theBru
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:47pm
  too funny trollster!!!
  
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- barber2
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:51pm
  MOST: New identity from SENSI: “but when I do” has replaced your old ” this is so.” You have more names then Barack Obama and make about as much “composite ” sense.
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:59pm
  When contacted about this Lapee-er said “MUAH HA HA HA HA HA HA”
  
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- usedCZARsalesman
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:01pm
  TROLL…both you name and you comment actually made me “laugh out loud”…I look forward to your future comments, don’t let me down!
  
  Stay cleaver my friend
  
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- highcarry
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:17pm
  troll. i would like to suggest to you a course of action that you could take to prove all the pro- gun people wrong. it’s very simple, almost cost free, and you could probably get all your friends to contribute. it is very simply this. all liberals and anti-gun people should immediately place large ” gun free zone ” signs in prominent places around their homes. it would be a very cost effective idea because you could use the cardboard and magic markers left over from making your “occupy” signs. the placing of these signs would accomplish a number of things. 1. you could prove to the world that with these signs, no criminal would ever enter your house with a gun. 2. i would not have to use my gun to defend my home. 3. you can show everyone that this is the ultimate defense to use in our schools. 4. eventually, the president and congress would see the sense in making all gov. buildings, including the white house and capital building “gun free zones”. just think, you would have national fame by showing us all the light. thank you very much for your immediate implementation of this idea and good luck.
  
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- RogueRequest
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:33pm
  @the-most-interesting-troll-in-the-world
  So true. Btw, I think I am going to start trolling these fools as well. By tomorrow they will have forgot that I just said that and will then rage at what I say despite the fact that I will not be going back to read their comments after I’ve ruined there day.
  
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- phil1765
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 4:05am
  honeydijon13
  Yea you ignorant moron it is all the fault of the NRA president. Do you even check the stupidity level of your comments before you hit reply?
  
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TRILO
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:38pm
“several guns were inside the home and used” yet the AR -15 will get the blame. There is no motive yet. It sounds like others may have owned some of the guns. Will they look at the medication this kid was on? I doubt it.

Murders happen every day. Where are the stories about gun owners saving lives.

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- LIBSALWAYSLIE
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:56pm
  Here’s the gun stories they dont want you to know about…
  
  http://www.nraila.org/gun-laws/armed-citizen.aspx
  
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- junior1971
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:06pm
  Certainly not on (lay down and spread em) Becks websites!
  
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jackact
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:37pm
So now that we know that not one single gun law on the books would have prevented this tragedy will we now, as intelligent Americans, begin to admit our national failure in NOT addressing MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES?

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- NOTAMUSHROOM
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:37pm
  I think we should ban all hormonally over-stimulated boys between the ages of 15 and 30.
  
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- 1TrueOne55
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:17pm
  Actually we should do what they did in my ERA. Draft them into the military for 4 years and when they are done they come out at least knowledgable on gun safety. And their mental health can be dealt with in Basic Training.
  
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- VanceUppercut
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 8:01pm
  @jackact
  
  Addressing mental health issues was part of Obama’s executive actions the other day, but that was “tyranny” though, so…
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:35pm
bet he was on psychotropic drugs

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- Advection
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:42pm
  Bet he played violent video games and watched violent movies and TV shows.
  
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- ranepowel
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:16pm
  He was 15. If he was “watching violent movies” or “playing violent video games” it’s because his parents bought them for him. You can’t buy R-rated films, see them in theaters or buy MA-rated games when you’re 15 years old.
  
  Additionally, there is no link between violent video games, violent movies or “violent” music causing real life violence in anyone. Not one study. Not one shred of proof. It’s merely an insane claim made by people who would rather limit the first amendment than limit the second amendment.
  
  You’re never going to legally say, “You can’t make violent movies or video games.” Ever. Not ever.
  
  As for the drugs comment, well, there is no link between drugs and violence. Rather, if this kid WAS on drugs it was his DISEASE that led to this, not the drugs that were helping him. People like you, who think vaccinations cause Autism and spout obvious lies backed up by no evidence, are the worst kind of human beings. You’d rather believe in a conspiracy theory that is obviously based on lies than accept the truth. It’s sad, and I’m sorry for you :(
  
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- Advection
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 1:46pm
  @RANEPOWEL
  
  You said “Not one study. Not one shred of proof.” that watching violent TV shows, movies, or playing violent video games has any effect on people’s propensity for crime.
  
  I can debink that with a quick google:
  
  “A study in the March issue of Psychological Bulletin, a journal of the American Psychological Association, shows that playing violent video games increases violent thinking, attitudes and behaviors among players. And it does nothing to promote positive social behaviors.”
  
  http://voices.washingtonpost.com/checkup/2010/03/study_shows_violent_video_game.html
  
  There are obviously many such studies, and there will be many more soon, but I think the most compelling proof can be found in common sense. Do you really think that a violent two hour movie has no effect on the viewer, but a 30 second ad here and there does?
  
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afishfarted
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:31pm
Ok, so they make sure to tell us right off the bat that there was a “military type assault rifle” at the scene (WRONG! The military doesn’t use AR 15′s). How long before they tell us what kind of psychotic medicine he was using?
Yeah, I’ll hold my breath waiting for THAT one

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Polarized America
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:29pm
This link .—->
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265472/Boy-15-shoots-adults-kids-dead-assault-rifle-bloody-shooting-rampage.html

EXCLUSIVE: Boy, 15, ‘shoots his pastor father and family dead with military-style assault rifle’ in bloody shooting rampage
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- CatB
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:13pm
  Oh look more of the story available on a UK website than on the US but again what drugs and mental health issues the kid has not even questioned. Is someone “programming” these kids?
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:31pm
  CAT,,,,Don’t know why this UK site is ahead on many stories, maybe because they aren’t responsible when they screw things up …?,,or worried about their reputation, like the US media
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:49pm
  POLARIZED, Thanks for posting the link. The Blaze could learn a lot from the U.K. news.
  
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- Polarized America
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:06pm
  HATCHETJOB…theblaze has used this site and the drudgereport as well, it’s how i found it
  but i think it’s a matter of getting the “facts right” before the blaze reports anything
  it’s all about reputation ………….i guess
  
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chips1
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:27pm
“Boo got shot”!!!!!

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Tex Expatriate
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:27pm
What? The story can’t say what the rifle was? Thre is no such thing as an assault rifle that a civilian can buy, and no such thing as an assault rifle at all. Shame on Blaze for even printing this story without printing all the facts.

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- truthnstuff
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:37pm
  Not trying to defend the Blaze, but, they were reporting what the police said. They should have printed what you said also, if they wanted to be responsible reporters.
  
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vandy
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:26pm
My thoughts and prayers are with the families of those slain in New Mexico, as well as the family of this obviously disturbed young man.

Once it has had time to sink in and he realizes the horror of what he has done and he seeks a way to escape the pain within him, my prayer is that God will make known to him the only way to find salvation and forgiveness through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Please accept that offer young man and know that paradise awaits in the next life. For your life upon this earth may be something close to hell for the remainder of your time here.

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Ron Staiger
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:26pm
He could’ve done us all a favor and stuck that gun in his mouth instead!

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paulwbrown
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:18pm
Normal people do not kill so wantonly. I think it is a forgone conclusion he was either a wacko or under the influence of some substance. A numb-nuts spokesman for the SO described the weapon as a military type assault rifle. I wonder which military uses semi-auto weapons?

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- oldguy49
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:28pm
  what drugs was he on………..and they took christ out of the schools to make what better
  
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- lid.smoker
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:37pm
  He killed his father, a pastor, unlikely it was lack of exposure to the Bible.
  
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Liberalslayer_1861
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:17pm
Interesting how all of these shootings are suddenly centered around an AR-15 during a time that Obummer wants to ban them. NBC finally admits that the AR involved in the CT shooting stayed in the vehicle and was not used.

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- ALOHA-SNACKBAR
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:42pm
  Even this isn’t going to push the number of rifles used in murders above .012%. I would bet one of my six yes six .223 semi auto rifles that the one used in this mass murder was a Fast and Furious gun. there is no doubt in my mind that all of these mass murders are F&F Part 2
  
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- Advection
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:59pm
  That video is from the day of the shooting, and it shows police examining a Saiga semi automatic shotgun. You can tell by the shape and by the size of the shell that’s ejected.
  
  But did the police ever release details about the guy they caught in the nearby woods? I don’t believe in conspiracies, but I’d like to hear who he was and why he was at the school.
  
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- saranda
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 9:46pm
  @advection – your newton question has been debunked ad nauseam. read something other than this entertainment site and find some really “real news”.
  
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Liberalslayer_1861
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:13pm
“Never let a crisis go to waste”.

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- CatB
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:20pm
  Even if you help create them … anyone think these are NOT coincidences …. even if they have to plant a rifle after the fact to fit the agenda?
  
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wingedwolf
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:09pm
What is an “AR-15-like weapon?

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- EgbertThrockmorton
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:16pm
  I cannot imagine WHY the Albuquerque police would have arrested the Fifteen year old, instead of the guns themselves. Do they NOT know that these guns just up and kill people? These inanimate objects should be tried and convicted for their crimes, after all, if there were no firearms in that home to commit those heinous murders, this poor fifteen year old would not be left holding the criminal culpability. This is such a shame that modern law enforcement cannot fathom what to arrest, and instead choose to arrest a person instead.
  
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- Cemoto78
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:16pm
  Looks like another gun owner didn’t practice the proper safeguards and keep these weapons away from a minor and someone with mental issues. I’m sure Obama and friends will be all over this.
  
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- chips1
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:21pm
  It’s like an F-103, only you can’t ride in it.
  
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- 3901
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:42pm
  It probably had a black barrel just like all those assault weapons. Close enough for the msm.
  
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SekndAmendment
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:08pm
It’s idiots like this that make it very difficult for the rest of us gun owners to make a case for keeping our 2 amendment rights, “evil” high capacity magazines, and intermediate caliber carbines.

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- shorelineliz
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:13pm
  Of course the news media just HAD to report it was an “AR-Like Weapon” in order to support Obama’s agenda. This is all a sinister set up.
  
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- Marine25
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:53pm
  Until today the owner of that weapon WAS ‘just like the rest of us’. Until we regulate firearms permits like driving permits, and require them to be renewed and evaluated at intervals, the only time we identify irresponsible gun owners is when the coroner is called.
  This debate is going to boil down to whether ‘a well-regulated militia…’ is essential to the Amendment or just a preamble (and no other Amendments have such preambles), and the definition of ‘arms’. It has been established, without judicial dissent, that ‘arms’ can be qualified and defined by the courts. Certain weapons have been deemed illegal for civilians to own. Arguing about that invites questions that are politically toxic; So does our Constitution recognize your neighbor’s right to park a brand new M-1 Abrams main battle tank in his driveway? Should we permit gun shops to hold tent sales offering great low prices on military-grade flamethrowers and nerve-gas-tipped artillery shells? Must the U.S. Government allow you to carry a “suitcase nuke” to avoid violating your fundamental Constitutional rights? Eventually they will ask if one has the right to carry a weapon capable of firing 100 consecutive high-velocity rounds as fast as one can squeeze the trigger? It’s not actually a question about the 2nd. It’s a question of evolving technologies and defining them. The NRA is obviously not ready for that debate. I suppose that’s why the simpletons claim every shooting is a federal
  
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- SekndAmendment
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 5:33pm
  @MARINE25
  
  The whole “why can’t I buy an Abrams or a tactical nuke?” argument is absolutely absurd. Nobody advocates that kind of policy so by exaggerating second amendment rights to such an extreme is just plain silly. Of course there needs to be legislation and limits placed on “arms” owned by private citizens. We had an assault weapon ban already and it failed. The Brady Bill is the most comprehensive gun legislation we’ve ever had, and it has failed. Chicago and DC tried all out bans and they failed. More laws and more bans is not the answer. Until politicians are willing to sit down and have a serious discussion about the causes and contributing factors to US homocide rates and how we might reduce them, I stand firmly opposed to new restrictive legislation. Somehow you have been fooled into believing that more restrictive laws are a good thing. I’m tired of watching democrats fumble around blindly in the dark passing laws left and right in an emotional and reactionary matter every time something like this happens…and somehow miraculously escaping the blame for the countless hundreds of ineffective gun laws already on the books. They wrote and passed the laws and yet blame their ineffectivity on me and on the NRA. Stop the reactionary politics and take an objective and data driven approach to solving this problem.
  
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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:19pm
  Marine25-
  You can shoot a .22 just as fast and it is not called an “Assault weapon”. All the people are the militia, and as militia they require sound firearms technology in order to function when called up. Firearms training should be a part of every schools curriculum so the children can be properly prepared for their duties as citizens. The 2nd amendment is not just a right, it is a duty.
  
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txbigfoot
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:07pm
This is probably the best lesson anyone can read before discussing gun control or new laws by ill-in formed or agenda-driven officials and media.
http://www.assaultweapon.info/

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- firman
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 7:27pm
  Thanks for posting. Too bad the reality is our opponets don’t care about the facts. Our education system and the MSM are failing us. The republic is in grave danger.
  
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stopprintn
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:06pm
Very important to snail mail, call and fax your congress critters. And to join more than one gun rights organization. We may lose on this issue.

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- WarMunger_Al
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:22pm
  we can only lose on this issue if we give up our arms. They can pass whatever bs law they want, won’t mean spit if nobody complies.
  
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blanco5
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:06pm
He was mentally ill and on drugs, etc….can’t wait for the details.

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Platonician
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:04pm
The FBI’s and CIA’s Psyop units are in full mode operation. How many more people will these monsters kill?

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:53pm
  I kind of doubt it. Family dysfunction, high unemployment rate, ever ending bad economic news, drugs legal & prescription, replacing religion with humanism, the ACLU getting rid of the mental health facilities et al is enough to bring about what we are seeing.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 4:05pm
  @Walkabout
  You are right, they destroyed social structures that made America a great country but even so why today? Why on inauguration day? Why in the South? It seems to be a well planned psychological operation to me.
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:09pm
  I suggest you confine yourself to your whatever shed you live in
  and line the wall with tin foil so you don’t miss any signals
  from your masters.
  
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- Platonician
  Posted on January 20, 2013 at 6:43pm
  @honeydijon13
  
  Unlike you I don’t have masters… and I won’t suggest you to line your walls with Barry Soetoro’s portraits, because I know they are already there.
  
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- theaton
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 1:42pm
  Platonician,
  
  New Mexico is not the “South.” They didn’t do anything, a young man killed his parents and siblings. The reasons are still unclear. The MSM and The Blaze should be ashamed of themselves for reporting, actually speculating, on this without facts.
  
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Extremerightwing
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:03pm
OH MY GOD! I want to know, was he on meds? I will not accept anyone echoing crap about these guns, until i hear the answer to my question! Was he medicated by a doctor?

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- Mil-Dot
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 12:44pm
  Millions of productive, happy, non-violent Americans use medicines every single day and they don’t kill people. These goons are mentally ill from birth. Bad DNA, the works. A nut is a nut. They will never be normal. Don’t fall the “the psychotropic medicine” is to blame crap. Only a fool would believe that garbage. These goons are either severely mentally ill already or are being brainwashed. That’s it.
  
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MangoT21
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 3:01pm
So NOT an ar 15…

Holmes’ ar jammed. He used a shotgun.
Lanza left his ar in the car. He used hanguns.
Thia guy used something “like” an ar15. Mental gymnastics to try to pile on another reason to infringe on that which shall not be.

So lets ban the thing that isn’t involved in whats kicking off this “assault rifle” debate.

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- dnewton
  Posted on January 21, 2013 at 10:40am
  If he used handguns, then the floor should be littered with hand gun shell casings, not shells from a Bushmaster. I have assumed that the coroner blamed the rifle because of the large number of rifle shell casings at the scene.
  
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Lefty49
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:58pm
Just one more reason the messiah will try to take away our right to buy and posess guns. Don’t let an opportunity go by to pass his agenda!

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RWwaKo
Posted on January 20, 2013 at 2:57pm
And I’m pretty positive we wasn’t on medication… (Yeah right.)

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