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Do You Know the Fascinating and Troubling Story About the Woman Behind the Roe v. Wade Case?

Jan. 22, 2013 2:53pm Billy Hallowell

Today marks the 40th anniversary since the Supreme Court ruled on the controversial Roe vs. Wade case. The result, of course, was legalized abortion across the United States of America and a seemingly never-ending debate surrounding theology, public policy and women’s rights.

While many people are well aware of the general themes surrounding the legal battle, the background of the woman at the center of it all, Jane Roe (real name: Norma McCorvey), may be somewhat unknown to most Americans. Her story is a fascinating one, as the plaintiff-turned-activist quickly became the catalyst — and face — of legalized abortion, later renouncing her role to become one of the nation’s most outspoken pro-life advocates. And even if you might have known that, there’s plenty of other fascinating details you may not.

McCorvey, who went by the pseudonym ”Jane Roe” for the purposes of her role in a legal battle that set off decades of furor, has gone through some fascinating evolutions over the past four decades (in case you’re wondering, “Wade” was Henry Wade, Dallas County’s District attorney who was attempting to uphold Texas law). Contrary to what one might expect from the woman who once fervently challenged abortion regulations, McCorvey, in her later years, has expressed sadness about the Roe vs. Wade verdict. In 1997, about the ruling’s anniversary, she told the outlet that it made her “very sad.”

As was documented in a past CNN interview, McCorvey, who was only 21 when her case made it to the nation’s high court, didn’t have an easy life. Interestingly, while she fought for abortion rights, McCorvey never actually had the procedure. At the time that Roe vs. Wade was heard, she was on her third pregnancy (the case wasn’t decided until two years after her child was born). She ended up giving birth to a baby girl, who was subsequently given up for adoption. In addition, her first child was raised by her mother and her second was cared for by the father.

According to her book, “I Am Roe: My Life, Roe v. Wade, and Freedom of Choice,” McCorvey described suffering many abuses in her early life. Among them, she was a ninth-grade dropout, she was abused emotionally and physically as a child, she was married at 16 and subsequently beaten by her husband and she was raped. Additionally, McCorvey experimented with individuals of both sexes and also used drugs and alcohol in her younger years (at least one interview seems to indicate that she used these substances until later in her life). In a past media interview the advocate also described herself as a “street kid” and “a rebel” during her teen years.

A 1994 New York Times profile, outlining McCorvey’s more than two-decade romance with a woman named Connie Gonzalez, provides a more complex depiction of McCorvey’s early life, delving into some fascinating details surrounding her background:

Her grandmother was a prostitute and fortuneteller. Her father was a television repairman, her mother an alcoholic. Part Cajun, part Cherokee Indian, and raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, Norma Leah Nelson was 10 when she took money from the gas station where she worked to run away from home. After that, her education came from reform schools until the ninth grade. By the time she was 15, she had been sexually assaulted by a nun and a male relative of her mother’s. At 16, she married an itinerant steel worker, Woody McCorvey, who, she says, beat her. She left him and returned to her mother’s house in Dallas with plans to raise her unborn child alone.

But after her daughter, Melissa, was born and Ms. McCorvey confided in her mother that her sexual preference was for women, she says, her mother kidnapped Melissa, banished Ms. McCorvey from the house and raised her granddaughter herself. Ms. McCorvey writes that when she was drunk, her mother tricked her into signing adoption papers, giving away custody.

Meet Norma McCorvey, the Real Jane Roe from Roe vs. Rade | Supreme Court, 40th Anniversary

Norma McCorvey who was “Roe” in Roe vs. Wade, the controversial, Supreme Court abortion case (Photo Credit: AP)

It wasn’t until the 1980s that her book — and her identity — were known to the American public. Once she released her name and officially emerged from the cloak of protection that “Jane Roe” had afforded her, McCorvey apparently worked in clinics that provided abortions and became a public speaker (she also cleaned homes, among other jobs). A Seattle Times article from 1994 provides a recap of how she came forward, while also providing some additional details about McCorvey’s life, including her sexuality:

First – shaking, sick to her stomach and fortified by vodka and Valium – she told a Dallas television reporter she was Jane Roe of Roe vs. Wade, the anonymous pregnant plaintiff whose case led to the 1973 Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion in the United States.

Next, she admitted she had lied about that pregnancy in the hope it would help her get an abortion: It was a casual affair that made her pregnant, not rape as she told her Roe lawyers.

And, little by little, through occasional interviews, sporadic speaking engagements and a 1989 television movie, she revealed that before she gave birth to the Roe baby and gave her to adoptive parents, she had given birth to two other children (one adopted, she believes, by its father; the other adopted by McCorvey’s mother). Slowly, she began speaking of her long-term lesbian relationship, her job cleaning houses, the joys of being a grandmother herself.

For more than 20 years, McCorvey worked for the pro-choice movement, continuing along the same path that had led to her 1973 victory, as CNN documents. But in 1995, her situation changed. At the time, she was working at a clinic in Dallas, Texas, when a pro-life group called Operation Rescue moved in next door. At the time, McCorvey was extremely pro-choice, voicing her disdain for the group and continuing to dig her heels in on the abortion issue. But after striking up a relationship with one of the evangelical faith leaders working for the organization, her outlook began to change.

After meeting The Rev. Phillip Benham, national director for Operation Rescue, she converted to Christianity — a startling evolution, considering her background and the battle she had engaged in over abortion rights. Following her change-of-heart, she was baptized on national television, wrote another book about her faith experience (“Won By Love”) and began working for the pro-life movement.

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As CNN noted 15 years ago when it completed its profile on McCorvey, her conversion and subsequent emergence as a pro-life leader has widely been viewed as a positive for those who oppose abortion. Pro-choice advocates, including the lawyers who once represented her, have obviously been less-than-impressed by her decision to join their opposition. The differences between McCorvey’s then-and-now are shocking.

While in 1994, before her conversion, McCorvey said that she would have had an abortion “in a heartbeat” had the procedure been legal in 1969, her tune changed just a few years later when she said that the pregnancy was already too far along for her to have gone through with it.

Contrary to past interviews before her conversion during which McCorvey seemed to have no regrets about being the woman at the center of the infamous abortion case, her comments over the past 15 years have painted a different picture of her experience. A web site called EndRoe.org explains her role in the Supreme Court Case that came to starkly divide Americans:

[McCorvey] describes herself as having been relatively ignorant of the facts of her own case, and claims that her attorneys simply used her for their own predetermined ends. They “were looking for somebody, anybody, to use to further their own agenda. I was their most willing dupe.” She had indeed become pregnant with her third child and sought to end her pregnancy, but she was not aware of all the implications of abortion or even what the term itself meant. “‘Abortion’, to me, meant ‘going back’ to the condition of not being pregnant.” She did not fully realize that this process would end a human life. She says that her attorney Sarah Weddington, rather than correcting her misconceptions, deliberately confused the issue: “For their part, my lawyers lied to me about the nature of abortion. Weddington convinced me, ‘It’s just a piece of tissue. You just missed your period.’” Another problem was that Norma claimed that her pregnancy was the result of a gang-rape, in order to present a more sympathetic picture. As she has since admitted, this was totally untrue.

Norma states that her actual involvement in the case was minimal. She signed the initial affidavit without even reading it, and “was never invited into court. I never testified. I was never present before any court on any level, and I was never at any hearing on my case . . . I found out about the decision from the newspaper just like the rest of the country.”

TheBlaze reached out to Weddington to discuss the case and the allegations that McCorvey has waged against her, but she declined to comment (she has enjoyed widespread success, though, as a result of the case). The plaintiff and her legal representatives have drifted apart over the years, particularly following the activist’s political change-of-heart on the issue of abortion.

Diverting from Weddington and her former pro-choice compatriots, McCorvey has been heavily-active in pro-life activities since concerting to Christianity. She launched an organization called “Roe No More” in 1997, although it appears that the initiative is no longer in operation (a phone number listed on its web site has been disconnected).

In addition to numerous appearances, speeches and commentaries, McCorvey also attempted to take legal action against the Roe vs. Wade verdict. In 2004, a court struck down her attempt to have the case overturned. The 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, Louisiana, dismissed the case after McCorvey claimed that abortions cause long-term emotional damage to the women who have them. And in 2009, the activist was arrested for interrupting Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor‘s nomination hearing.

Of late, McCorvey, now 65, has seemingly left the public eye, but in Oct. 2012, she emerged to record a controversial video aimed at President Barack Obama’s abortion record. In the clip, she encouraged viewers not to vote for the president and said that he “murders babies.” She was paid $1,000 for the spot:

In a recent Vanity Fair article, a plethora of details about McCorvey were released — not all of them favorable — as the outlet attempts to recap the woman’s complex life. Among other tidbits, Gonzalez, her former lover, is quoted as calling the Roe plaintiff a “phony” and her own mother discusses the difficulties she encountered in raising McCorvey. Her daughter, too, has less-than-favorable words for her mother.

TheBlaze reached out to Fr. Frank Pavone, a Catholic leader who has worked closely with McCorvey to learn more about her character, her current status and how he believes the Roe vs. Wade case has impact the woman’s life. Today, Pavone claims that McCorvey is living in Texas and is attempting to “step away from the limelight and take care of herself.” As for those who have criticized the woman who brought legalized abortion upon America, the priest had only favorable words for her.

Pavone knows McCorvey’s character well, as he is one of her spiritual advisers and he received her into the Catholic Church in 1998, following her earlier conversion into the evangelical Christian faith.

“She had a sincere conversion, just as many Americans do every day and many former abortion clinic workers have had. I have never known Norma to be greedy,” Pavone wrote in an e-mail to TheBlaze. “She did serve the pro-life movement full-time, and as hundreds of Americans do, she drew a legitimate salary for that employment. However, I have been side by side with her in many projects and activities in which Norma gave of her time and effort without either seeking or receiving a penny.”

No matter where one stands on McCorvey, one thing is clear: The historical figure who was the centerpiece of one of America’s most contentious Supreme Court cases has a complex past and, subsequently, is an individual who is viewed with a diversity of opinion by people on both sides of the aisle.

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yaya
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:02pm
What a sad state of affairs…..killing babies….Christian bashing…uneducated teachers in charge of our children….electing politicians who swear to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States “So Help Me God” all the while totally ignoring it. I guess we get what we deserve!

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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 8:03pm
  Amazing that we all FORCED to live under laws created by people like this.
  Abortion is the law of the land due to a drunen, drug-addicted lying lesbian who would get on her back
  for anything short of a donkey. She was then USED as a wedge by 2 wing-nut progressive feminazi activist lawyers to push the cause into the Federal lexicon.
  
  Im glad she’s apparently turned herself around but its a little late now.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 9:59pm
  so now you know the story….But do you know the solution???
  
  http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/14292-congress-has-the-power-to-overturn-roe-v-wade
  
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- Sosorryforyou
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:01pm
  @BODYBAG
  
  Actually, “Abortion is the law of the land” because a Republican-appointed majority in the Supreme Court made it the law of the land.
  
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- USAMama
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:51pm
  Bodybag, it’s not too late for her in Gods eyes! Yes she is responsible for this atrocity but if her conversion is sincere (and I see no reason to think that it isn’t) then she has been forgiven and made new. Praise God she is not that person anymore! She is beautiful to Him despite her past.
  
  Unfortunately for her lawyers, judges who voted for it and all those still supporting it unless they too see the error of their ways and ask His forgiveness they will face His judgement. May He have mercy on their souls!
  
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- spikebu
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:41am
  @USAMAMA…Amen, sister!
  
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- QuincySmith
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:33pm
  Actually, Mama, as I understand it, the Congress could end abortion simply by defining when life begins. Since the (presumed) supreme court acknowledged that their collective wisdom could not identify when life begins, they allowed (legal) abortion. They asked Congress to clarify the ‘question’. I pray that Congress will shortly take up that question and answer it.
  
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- BODYBAG
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 2:37pm
  @SOSORRYFORYOU
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:01pm
  @BODYBAG
  Actually, “Abortion is the law of the land” because a Republican-appointed majority in the Supreme Court made it the law of the land.
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  The anonymous pig had to force its way to the trough. The MOST COMMONLY held opinion now
  is that it was a mistake for SCOTUS to accept this case in the first place as it should have remained
  a State issue to be decided “By The People”.
  http://www.gale.cengage.com/free_resources/whm/trials/roe.htm
  
  “Norma McCorvey became pregnant in the summer of 1969. The 21-year-old woman’s marriage had failed, and her mother and stepfather were raising her five-year-old daughter. McCorvey did not want to continue her pregnancy. Since Texas law prohibited abortion except to save a woman’s life, McCorvey began to look for someone willing to perform one illegally.
  
  Although she was not successful in that search, she did meet Sarah Weddington and Linda Coffee, two attorneys interested in changing the abortion laws. McCorvey agreed to become plaintiff “Jane Roe” in a test case.”
  
  TRUTH:
  The consequences of irresponsibility SHOULD be failure and hardship. People seem to really enjoy the screwing part, but want to shirk the responsibility of the resulting pregnancy that occurs.
  
  @USAMAMA
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:51pm
  Bodybag, it’s not too late for her in Gods eyes!
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- tradcatholicgirl
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 4:37pm
  Bodybag,
  
  God forgive you for judging this person. Although troubled, she sought, and is still seeking, a redemptive life, and better choices.
  
  We all have stories to tell about woundedness and mistakes. You are not better than her. Just less humble.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 10:42pm
  Her mom is BARYMETHELIZABETH? I had no idea that she was that old.
  
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- redfish52
  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:38am
  Study that face hard….its the face of Progressive Liberalism……
  
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- by faith
  Posted on February 15, 2013 at 11:08am
  Roe v. Wade (1973) Supreme Court ruled 7–2
  Majority
  Warren E. Burger 15th Chief Justice nominated by Nixon – Presbyterian
  William O. Douglas – FDR – Presbyterian
  William Brennan, Jr – Eisenhower – Catholic
  Potter Stewart –Eisenhower – Episcopalian
  Thurgood Marshall – LBJ – Episcopalian
  Harry Blackmun – Eisenhower – Methodist
  Lewis F. Powell, Jr. – Nixon – Presbyterian
  
  Dissent
  Byron White – JFK – Episcopalian
  William Rehnquist – Reagan – Lutheran
  
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The Third Archon
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:00pm
“The result, of course, was legalized abortion…”
Not exactly–the result was legalized abortion within the FIRST trimester; the second and third trimester can be regulated in ascending order of strictness even under Roe v. Wade (hence why Bush was able to pass an outright ban on third trimester abortions).

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- Walkabout
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:35pm
  “hence why Bush was able to pass an outright ban on third trimester abortions”
  
  Do you know what you just said?
  
  Why would we have to pass a law delineating what is clearly immoral? But if we don’t pass a law then at some future point let’s say 150 or 200 years, some wag will that was not the framer’s intend to outlaw that, because they never wrote a law to cover it.
  
  And the only reason that they did not was because it was understood to be wrong. Who think it much less do it.
  
  And it is clearly immoral. A baby at the 3rd trimester has DNA, feels pain & has a functioning brain which is even then processing information & integrating.
  
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- Locked
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 9:03am
  @Walkabout
  
  “Why would we have to pass a law delineating what is clearly immoral?”
  
  Because laws and morality are never the exact same thing? Morality is incredibly personal; what is “moral” for one person is not moral for another. Divorce and remarriage are immoral (by biblical standards), but they are legal. Adultery is immoral but legal (in most places). You can get drunk, and it’s legal; but if you can smoke peyote (a traditional part of many Native American cultures) it’s illegal.
  
  If you’re wed morality and legality in your mind, you need to divorce the two. They’re distant cousins, not a married couple.
  
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- The Third Archon
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:29pm
  “And the only reason that they did not was because it was understood to be wrong. Who think it much less do it.”
  No, the reasons they did not include anything about abortion in the Constitution are (1) They didn’t KNOW about abortion–nothing at all comparable was technologically possible in 1787; and (2) They didn’t have the TIME to go through, consider, and develop a thoughtful response to EVERY specific eventuality that MIGHT confront Americans into perpetuity–and they REALIZED this and PURPOSEFULLY left some things, many things even, open-ended.
  
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Lois150
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:43pm
We’re all sinners. Kudos to you Ms. Norma for opening your eyes and heart. You are forgiven on behalf of the One who defeated death. God creates life and ALL life is precious in His sight. The destroyer of life, satan is celebrating this horrible anniversary. Not only does he rejoice in the death of the child but the future mental torment of the mother is the fuel that keeps him going. We are fooled into thinking that it’s “just a piece of tissue.” When the truth is satan laughs just as loud whether it’s a piece of tissue or a mass public shooting.

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- PilgrimStuckInBizarroWorld
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:40pm
  ,I too, am glad she has repented and change her views but this goes to show that the choices that we make in this life can/do effect/affect many lives. 55 million babies who never had a chance to see this world. This genocide needs to be stopped by WE THE PEOPLE.
  
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- The Giver
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 10:26pm
  Yes, we are all sinners. Thank God she speaks for the unborn child now. When we abort a child, we’re also aborting all the children, grands… they would have had. We are eliminating someone’s Love. God, please forgive this country and help us reverse Roe vs Wade in the name of Jesus.
  
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ghostlyspirit
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:43pm
The country is dieing and I will mourn for her until Americans put the spirit of life back into her soul . The breath of life lay with the love God has given us. I will not wait for God to rise up I will rise up first to show him the respect and courage of my conviction. He gave us all free will and a mind to fight for what we believe. The test is upon us and God is waiting for us. If I die for freedom then all faith lies within me. I can’t wait for God as God is waiting for me. God’s fight is to save my soul. visit my website http://www.godandspirit.com ty

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oldsoldier10
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:31pm
Do You Know the Fascinating and Troubling Story About the Woman Behind the Roe v. Wade Case? Is the story how she tattooed he eyebrows on and looks really scarey? cause i am feeling scared of this story

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Nobamazone
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:19pm
This is just the beginning- the woman behind Doe v Bolton is also pro-life and her story is even MORE incredible because she never wanted an abortion in the first place! Not sure if my link will post or not, but just do a search on Doe v Bolton or Sandra Cano – who has been fighting for years to clear her name from that case.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22/sandra-cano-doe-v-bolton_n_2527521.html

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strawberry411a
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:16pm
As sad as her story is, it is no surprise that a ruling for the liberal cause was the direct result of a disgusting pathetic lifestyle. Glad that she has seen the errors of her past unfortunately the damage is done and it is significant in it’s impact to human life.

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- JRook
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:41pm
  Ah yes but somehow it was different when Rush was a drug addict. For every so called liberal cause or failing you reference as being negative, there are an equal amount or perhaps more on the conservative side. So how’s about growing up.
- Walkabout
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:50pm
  “there are an equal amount or perhaps more on the conservative ”
  
  Guessing, knowing, or hoping this is true?
  
  Certainly there are a few liberal websites that makes lists of politicians of both sides & they are most assiduous at detailing the immorality of Republicans. But Democrats? Not so much.
  
  Watergate & the Madam who hung herself in Florida come to mind? I do not believe that Vitter is the only Senator fooling around. Somehow the press lost interest in printing the whole book of Johns.
  
  ***
  
  As an aside, I expect women to become lesbians, when guys treat them like dirt. Does it happen 100% of the time know. It is merely a probabilistic predictor.
  
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- strawberry411a
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 7:04pm
  JROOK..for you specifically..”What in the hell are you rambling on about Rush Limbaugh”? Maybe you should read the flipping article if possible..if not just woo us with your impression of Michelle’s eating habits…get a life.
  
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- strawberry411a
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 7:08pm
  ..oh and I see your point ROOK….addiction to pain pills and the impact that had on millions of lives and the abortion issue.. WOW..What an intellectual you appear to be.
  
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Shreknangst
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:54pm
The Economist, 22 Jan 2013, published “Daily chart: Roe v Wade at 40″
In 1965, in the USA, TWO HUNDRED women died per thousand abortions. Today there are twenty abortions per thousand women.
So: Prior to Roe.v.Wade, one in five abortions resulted in the death of the woman. That means, today, the anti-abortion group (Right to Lifers) are lobbying to annually KILL four of every thousand women in the 15-44 age group.
The shame of Roe.v.Wade is that there are people who openly lobby to murder 4-in-1000 women … and nobody in the media is calling them on it. For this group, calling them selves proponents of The Right-to-life, the reality is, the want the Right-to-Murder to become law.
If they support life, what are they doing to support the babies that are born? Are they providing them with medical care? Covering the cost of the pregnancy? Providing education, or anything that supports the living and ensures a fruitful growth to a productive adulthood?
!!!!!! NO !!!!!!
What they want is dead women, and sickly, illiterate children..

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- Granny58
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:11pm
  but instead we are getting over a million people (young, very young) murdered every year by abortion. I don’t see how that is better.
  
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- davidj2k
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:27pm
  First off, according to http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2510/before-em-roe-em-v-em-wade-em-did-10-000-women-a-year-die-from-illegal-abortions the number was likely 5000-10000 a year with the 10000 being “inflated”, but regardless of that, there have been 54,000,000 abortions since Roe v Wade, that is 54,000,000 people who were not given a “choice” of life, given a roughly half female population you have 27,000,000 women dead compared to 600,000 (number of women plus half the number of female babies of those women) over the same time period. I am a huge proponent of fixing the adoption system and promoting adoption over abortion, I have had family members who waited YEARS for a child through adoption only in the end having to go to another country and adopt three children from one family because our system is that broken.
  
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- John Valentine
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:32pm
  Dr. Bernard Nathanson disputed the statistics on how many abortions were performed and how many women died. It is also important to note “that The chemical structure of penicillin was determined by Dorothy Crowfoot Hodgkin in 1945.[28] Penicillin has since become the most widely used antibiotic to date, and is still used for many Gram-positive bacterial infections.”(From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). So, penicillin did not come into wide usage until years later. As far as your gibberish that Pro-life people want women dead and children sickly, nothing could be further from the truth. That fact is supported by the many post-abortive women who are “Silent no more” at the March for Life Rally. The conditions at the Philadelphia abortion mill, and the four women who have been rushed to the hospital since Thanksgiving, 2012 show utter disregard for women’s health.
  
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- John Valentine
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:42pm
  I wish to clarify one point. I said “and the four women who have been rushed to the hospital since Thanksgiving, 2012″ that happened at the St. Louis Planned Parenthood.
  
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- Ahmed Anassofu
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:49pm
  SHREKNANGST, I am in favor of you aborting your kids and grinding them up for stem cells to cure Michael J Fox.
  
  It’s the right thing to do, the greater good and all.
  
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- cdawg516
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:54pm
  If I remember correctly, while your facts are technically correct, the dip in maternal deaths as a result of abortion also conveniently parallel the onset of the widespread use of antibiotics. It’s been a long time since I’ve thought through this point, but again, if I remember correctly, the reported numbers of abortion related hospital treatments or maternal deaths the year before and the year after Roe v Wade would lead someone to either think that a) there were many fewer abortions happening illegally pre-Roe than were used in the arguments in court, or b) post-Roe abortions were just as deadly. The most common perception of the data is that Pre-Roe, abortions were not done with hangers in back alleys, but more likely, done by the same doctors who later did it legally after hours and paid off the books.
  
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- mycomet123
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:55pm
  First off, since you seem to be so concerned about women’s health. Why don’t you start advocating for the medical staff in these abortion mills to at least be licensed health care providers. Most of these abortion mills are run like third world medical units. Very little (if any) sterilization of instruments. I pray in front of an abortion mill every Saturday morning & I can assure you that the doctor/butcher there would pretty much let his patient’s die outside in the cold before calling for an ambulance if the woman started hemorrhaging because having an ambulance come to his office would “look bad” for his business! As far as who takes care of all these unwanted babies, there are millions of couples who would love to adopt them!.
  
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- freebird1957
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:59pm
  You want to kill within the body: the unwanted, the unloved, those considered a drain on society, those who are considered less than human. Within the body of Germany, Hitler decided who should die. You have a lot in common.
  
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- minorityconservative2
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:00pm
  Your words are moronic. No one wants dead women except the people who abort baby women. The thing is that when there is a law most people follow it. So if it were against the law then there is an easy way to avoid dying from it and that is to not do it. In the past women were looked down on for getting pregnant before marriage, but that is not the way of the world anymore. Sickly illiterate children… Um I think not. We have a nation full of illiterate children and we have legal abortion. We have a bunch of people who no longer take responsibility for themselves and this includes have sex with many people without being married. Abortion has only made it so that they don’t have to take responsibility for what they do. There are pregnancy centers all over this country that try to help women so you know nothing. Most of all people need to take responsibility for themselves. It is not my job to help a woman that goes out and has sex and gets pregnant and then keeps on doing the same thing over and over. I had a friend who fostered kids and the mothers would just keep getting pregnant. People should learn their lessons and wake up and grow up. Then again I think the average I.Q. is hovering just above 70 these days. All you have to do is look at the trolls who come on here to know that.
  
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- pagraywolf
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:04pm
  What an idiotic logic you use. Using your logic, I am responsible for the death of Dale Earnhart, race car driver who chose to drive not using the safest equipment available and hold a job that is very dangerous. His choice, not mine. Women who chose to have an abortion choose it – they are not forced. If something bad happens because of their choice, it’s on them, not me.
  
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- tzion
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 7:28pm
  You seem to be missing some major points. Specifically, you failed to mention that Roe v. Wade does nothing to make abortions safer or less life threatening. On top of that, you have implied that without Roe v. Wade abortion would be entirely illegal (which it wasn’t even before the decision) and that overturning it would make all abortions illegal (which is nothing short of an outright lie). You didn’t even bother to compare statistics from states with different approaches to the abortion issue or even to compare the number of deaths before with the number from a few years later.
  
  Then again, of course, you clearly aren’t the kind to actually do your own research, are you? After all, all you did was quote from an article published today. At least you could put some effort into your arguments.
  
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- Hotconchick
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:40am
  We are paying taxes to support born children.
  
  In fact, my sister had everything covered by Medicaid as did her child when he was born automatically because she lost her job.
  
  That’s what we are doing.
  
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- andrew36
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 1:55am
  No Freebird, they have nothng in common, if you cant tell the difference between aborting a foetus and killing actual babies/adults then you have a serious problem. Yes ahmed of course you are, funny how anti abortion people are anti abortion unless it someone they dont agree with, then its fine.
  
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- lemkete
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 9:49am
  That is the most illiterate straw man argument I think I have ever read. That would be like me saying because I want the right to fly on an airplane I am a proponent for the death of thousands of people a year who die in plane crashes. Typical *******.
  
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- rosegrower
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 11:35am
  Shreknangst
  Prior to Roe v. Wade, there were states that allowed abortion and I would bet that in those states, the death rate was much lower. However, in states that did not allow abortion, there were 3rd rate physicians who performed them – usually in a storefront clinic. There are still 3rd rate physicians performing a lot of procedures, only they’ve found a more lucrative situation – they round up anyone in the ghetto who has a Medicaid card, bring them into their office for a few minutes, then bill Medicaid for thousands of dollars. Most don’t get caught, because government auditors are too overwhelmed with prying into the books of small businesses and can’t find the time to reduce fraudulent billings to government.
  
  As for “voting for illiterate children,” that has been a growing problem thanks to the various welfare programs available. Think about it, Shrek, we pay women who are incapable of taking care of themselves to have children! These women are, by and large, illiterate, slovenly addicts – and we foot the bill for their lifestyle. Every child they bear gives them a raise – and there really is nothing that forces them to actually care for the child. I’ve known welfare queens who use the formula they get compliments of WIC to cut the cocaine the baby daddy sells out of the government-subsidized apartment they share. So tell me, who is really voting for “dead women and illiterate, sickly children”?
  
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micko77
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:39pm
Hi there, friends and foes. My thoughts as both a recovering alcoholic and a nurse: in both these primary areas in my life I have run across numerous women who have had abortions, and men who have had a child aborted (myself in that group). In the women/abortion groups, I find it very rare that a woman is proud of having had an abortion; rather, it is often the self-recrimination that is a trigger for drinking/drug abuse, psychological traumas of various forms (depression, suicide attempts, PTSD); additionally, in the male group, I find a profound sense of loss rather than relief, which seems to be what most folks would expect the “baby-daddy” to experience. Speaking for myself, I have counseled my sons with these issues in mind. Everyone involved is affected, and the ones who claim no psychological are either lying or sociopaths. My 2 cents.

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- Bam24
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:40pm
  I couldn’t agree with you more. I personally knew two women who told me they had an abortion and never stopped regretting it. Abortion changes and scars you for life. No one ever regrets not going through with their abortion plans.
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:13pm
  And yet the earth is overpopulated even with all of the abortions. By the way, I knew a guy long ago who was extremely relieved that his girlfriend had an abortion. I heard he wanted to be free.
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:00pm
  No one I know who ended an unwanted pregnancy ever regretted it. So there ya go.
  
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- RJJinGadsden
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 10:46pm
  But DORA/HONEY, you and your crowd are simply disgusting and immoral.
  
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DisgustedinUSA
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:39pm
It just goes to show you the Power of God and His complete forgiveness. She has to live with what she did, but God forgives her and like the bible says, “He remembers her sins no more”. You do reap what you sow, but God is merciful, and loves us.

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- Granny58
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:24pm
  your lovely post brought a tear to my eye. thank you.
  
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another pucker
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:30pm
I would think that Roe vs. Wade could be revisited just on the basis that the arguments used were completely exaggerated or false! Tell me if I’m completely off on this thinking but I also thought that since Obamacare was passed based on the commerce claus, the reason they needed fewer votes, and it is unconstitutional as regulating commerce but legal as a tax then it should have to pass through congress as a tax! Why is this not the case? Voted through under the commerce clause illegal as such, made into a tax but does not have to pass as such!

XOXOXO

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wantsfreedom
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:29pm
the lord obama prayer:
our president who art in office, how did you get thy name..
thy kingdom comes, thy will be done, by lie, force, or executive order..
give us this day your daily rule, and forgo the constitution..
as we know the constitution bothers you..
and lead us not into freedom, but deliver your socialism ..
for you believe you are the kingdom the power and glory foever.
Ameen

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- Alina.D
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:45pm
  Haha exactly.. But disgusting!!
  
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wantsfreedom
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:23pm
come on peeps.. we need to encourage this type of behaveior..the more these liberal baby killing a- holes kill themselves off the better off this country will be..

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- Jim S
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:50pm
  ..she was the face chosen for the cause..much like Rosa Parks and the NAACP and setting up a case to challenge a law…if it wasn’t Roe it would have been someone else,the movement was started, almost any face would do…the individual is fairly meaningless in political movements.
  
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- minorityconservative2
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:19pm
  Guess what peep… I am a child of one of those holes you are talking about. Just because a parent is an idiot does not mean the child will turn out the same. Every zygote, embryo, fetus or as I like to call them human beings, deserves life not just the ones you or some pro-abort declare deserving.
  
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Voter713
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:00pm
Im an Ambassador for our local pregnancy crisis center as well as a volunteer when I can. This womans story is inspiring to our community. She is proof that knowledge and love are more important than fear when it comes to pregnancy. Want a real shocker read the true history of Planned Parenthood.

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- micko77
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:55pm
  Tru dat… forgive the vernacular, but one sometimes must speak to the audience in a manner the intended audience may understand. Why are so many PP facilities in areas with high minority populations? Answer: Thinning the herd. One may call that racist, but it’s merely stating the facts, paraphrasing Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood. Reduce the amount of the developmentally challenged, the black population, and others who didn’t fit her Utopian ideal. So those of you who wonder (I imagine there are few in the echo chamber) where Planned Parenthood came from and what the “Plan” was, google something other than porn.
  
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Lumen
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:44pm
I never knew all that. Interesting, It kinda makes me think that real evil still exists in the world and we need to wake up as people or it seems to make it way thru us without anyone really needing to do anything at all.

Makes me wonder who really had interest in getting all this moved forward and for what end… What are they doing today?

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- drs1969
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:07pm
  The goal was to take down the relatively rich middle class, and transfer it’s power to DC through the voting booth, that’s always the Dem’s strategy. You now have a welfare class that’s never worked and was born after Roe. Before Roe, doctors had to send their patients to DC for abortions. They could get one if they told a ‘shrink’ they’d kill themselves.
  It’s not surprising the courts wouldn’t hear her lawsuit, since they already crammed the unconstitutional law down our throats. They aren’t going to give up the power they stole.
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:13pm
  I forgot to add, that the current push for **** rights is a natural extension of this. They have to convince white, middle class kids that they are queer, before they are child-bearing age. This accomplishes two goals. Suppresses the white vote, which isn’t as favorable to leftists, and enlarges their demographic, which they have been killing off through abortion.
  Abortion can singlehandedly explain why this country has become so polarized. Those voters in the middle were killed off!
  
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- drs1969
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:24pm
  Since h o m o was censored, I replace it w/ f a g g o t.
  
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biohazard23
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:42pm
May God forgive our nation and have mercy on us for shedding the blood of 50 million innocent babies. What a horrible milestone to be marking…

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- psadie
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:55pm
  How sad that an entire generation was slaughtered. It makes me sick.
  
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mcsledge
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:40pm
Regardless of where you stand on the topic, GOD will not hold one blameless for having an abortion except where a mother’s life is threatened or consent was not present.

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- YellowFin
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:10pm
  McSledge, – “except where a mother’s life is threatened or consent was not present.” ?
  
  Does the Bible, God’s Holy Scriptures support that comment ?
  
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- DeathRattle
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:34pm
  I am hoping you are saying God will not hold one blameless for having an abortion, unless, one asks for and has received forgiveness. Those that have an abortion as a manner of contraception and do not seek forgiveness, then I agree God will hold them accountable.
  
  God is a forgiving God, but time is short and I can only imagine His patience is well frayed to the breaking point.
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:57pm
  Actually, scripture does support any part of that comment. We are all blameless in Christ Jesus:
  
  [3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places,
  [4] even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love [5] he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will, [6] to the praise of his glorious grace, with which he has blessed us in the Beloved.
  
  (Ephesians 1:3-6 ESV)
  
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- Dan_o
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:00pm
  Excuse the typo. Meant to say, scripture does not support any part of that statement. However, even with forgiveness there are consequences for sin in this life.
  
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moreteaplease
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:27pm
They “were looking for somebody, anybody, to use to further their own agenda. I was their most willing dupe.”
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Hmm…now where have I seen that tactic used before? Oh I remember! The current administration uses it all of the time.

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BetsyRoss1513
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:25pm
The ironic thing in all this? An abortion was not for ‘saving the mothers life’ nor due to rape or incest’. Apparently, she made it through the pregnancy just fine.

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BetsyRoss1513
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:24pm
I would be ashamed to be called her daughter; someone whom my mother wanted to kill when I was a zygote.
Nice.

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- thyrsdei
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:30pm
  I think I would be proud to be her daughter. What a testament of God’s faithfulness. Her daughter, and other two children for that matter, could likely have never been born, but they lived to see this change in their mother, who maybe was just the face of the case after all, but regardless, still a pretty big deal. It’s an amazing thing to be the daughter in a story like this.
  
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mcsledge
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:24pm
Choice – Intimacy
Consequence – Conception
**Abortion is not a choice but an attempt at removing nature’s consequence to a choice!

If only those who stood in front of a traffic/bus/train, jumped off of a building, put a gun in their mouth, took a handful of pills, etc. had the ability to cover up and eliminate their bad choice.

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rpw4547
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:16pm
Even for you Jesus will forgive you if you trust in him and ask for forgiveness for your sin. If you don’t ask him to forgive you, go turn on your kitchen stove and put you finger on the hot eye, that will give you an Idea of your future without him.

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TheBurningTruth
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:14pm
What a garbage story. It completely (perhaps intentionally) misrepresents the whole Roe v. Wade decision.

First, the court doesn’t rule that something is “legal” it rules as to whether a challenged law is in conflict with established law, usually the Constitution at the Supreme Court level. In fact, the famously misrepresented ruling STRUCK DOWN a Texas state law that sought to make abortion ILLEGAL.

The Texas law was struck down because it was so restrictive and so draconian that not even a medical professional could order an abortion to save the mother’s life. The doctor had NO say in it, the law was absolute. 24 other states that had very similar laws either removed them or decided not to enforce them. Any state could write an anti-abortion law today, and if they took cognizance of what the Supreme Court ruled against, that law might well survive appeals.

Interestingly enough, the court was NOT able to tie their decision to ANYTHING in the Constitution as they always try to do. The Constitution doesn’t address reproductive rights or options in any way. That is why there is such a huge fight over Supreme Court nominees as legal experts on both sides of the law understand that the only thing stopping new anti-abortion laws is the public’s political pressure on their legislatures.

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- rs9
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:21pm
  You’re right the constitution doesn’t say anything about reproductive rights it just gurantees evryone the right ” to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness” I guess the dead baby can no longer do these things so that makes it ok
  
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- honeydijon13
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 11:04pm
  A fetus has no rights.
  What don’t you understand.
  
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soybomb315_II
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:05pm
The problem with the way “conservatives” discuss Roe v. Wade is that they frame it in terms of whether abortion is OK or not.

But the reality is that we should look at it from a state’s rights perspective. Roe v Wade took away the ability of a state to make abortion illegal. That is unconstitutional – no matter what your position on abortion is….

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- Gonzo
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:07pm
  Unfortunately, state’s rights died during the Lincoln administration.
  
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- TERossi
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:22pm
  The problem with Ronulans is they’re just as souless, heartless, and delusional as Liberals.
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:22pm
  And the best legal way to defend against “homosexual rights” would have been to explain that homosexuality can not be differentiated by any group excepts by mere sexual desires. And no place in common law in sexual desires a legally classification of a race, religion, sex.or creed.
  
  But, then you have to remember that if you’re standing before a liberal judge, law and reason are out the window.
  
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- PATTY HENRY
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:23pm
  REALLY? I say: It’s NOT A CHOICE — it’s a BABY.
  
  There is no other side. Abortion = Killing a BABY. There are a zillion ways not to become pregnant and there is no excuse (except rape/incest) and even then, it’s still a BABY. MURDER is wrong. there is no other POV. MURDERING AN INNOCENT CHILD is really wrong. NO other POV.
  
  Being Pregnant when you don’t want to be, don’t plan to be is not fun but the alternative involves killing a Baby. Instead of saying it’s “OUR RIGHT TO OUR BODY” we ought to be saying that its a real, live Baby and what may seem like the worst thing that has ever happened to us can become the best thing if we Trust God. We didn’t give ourselves life — GOD DID. We don’t “own life” like car, GOD owns it. We probably won some type of Heavenly Lotto to be here to learn and grow.
  
  We can’t have it both ways. I say it’s a BABY. I say it’s LIFE. I say if you find yourself in this situation for any reason that murder is wrong. I also say that Planned Parenthood is nothing more than a money-making abortion mill regardless of their so-called non-profit status…someone is making billions.
  
  What a tortured life this ROE person had, but God uses each of us for His purposes to teach and learn from. IT IS NOT A CHOICE…
  IT
  IS
  A
  BABY
  
  This is one of those facts of life that no committee or “wishing” can change. Time for us to GROW UP.
  
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- P8riot
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:51pm
  Hi Soy,
  
  Thank you for bringing another important argument into the conversation. However, the morality of abortion must also stay at the forefront of the conversation since we believe that killing a baby is so immoral that it must be outlawed even if a state legalized it.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:22pm
  Two options we can fight for….
  1. Allow the states to decide their abortion policy and you will see 30+ states outlaw abortion within 1 year. Abortion laws will be crafted by each state and the best abortion laws will quickly become apparent. If you live in a pro-abortion state, you can move to a different state that suits you better.
  2. Make it a federal issue and abortion will be legal in all 50 states for the next 10 years. If by some chance you are able to swing the supreme court, it might become illegal, but the court will eventually swing back and make abortion legal in every state again.
  
  Now, which option do you think is more in line with the principles of the founders and our Constitution? Which option has a higher likelihood of achieving your desired result? The answer to both questions is option #1
  
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- Wino911
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:33pm
  Human rights trump states rights. Our God given rights are LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
  
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- soybomb315_II
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 5:12pm
  It is not self-evident that fetuses have rights. You can believe so and that is fine. But the only reason you believe so is because of the bible. This is a grey area and was not on the radar of the founders when they drafted the Constitution…. Therefore, if you want fetuses to be incorporated into the Constitution, you must amend it. If you think government should overstep the Constitution based on your personal preference – you are making the same mistake as the progressives.it is not
  
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- hatchetjob
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:36pm
  PATTY HENRY, In God’s eyes, all sin is the same. I have read that there is no one sin that is worse than another. Aren’t you being a bit self righteous. Have you lived a life free of sin? Only Jesus was perfect.
  
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- minorityconservative2
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:44pm
  No Soy you are wrong. There are atheists that believe abortion is wrong. Before I was involved in a church I believed it was wrong. I knew when a human life started. I had read the medical books. That zygote has it’s own unique DNA. Destroying any zygote, embryo, fetus or as I like to call them human being is wrong. It takes a special, unique and beautiful individual, that can never be replaced, away. Every human being should have the right to life. A fetus is alive. To kill it is murder.
  
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- minorityconservative2
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 6:50pm
  Hatchet
  You are kidding right? What is self righteous about saying something that is wrong is wrong? No one would be able to say anything is wrong and we would not put people in jail if we went by your logic because the police and the judge have sinned before. Go back to your kind of sites and stop trolling here.
  
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- psychokittis
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 8:59pm
  @soybomb2-
  Remember that the word” fetus” is Latin for little one or offspring. Now look at the Preamble of the Constitutiuon. In it, we are assured that one of the purposes of the Constitution is to secure the blessings of liberty to “ourselves and our posterity”. Those fetuses are our posterity, howbeit unborn. The Constitution protects them, too, SINCE THEY ARE OUR POSTERITY!
  Remember that there is no right greater than that of life. Without life, there is nothing.
  
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- Balzy
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 3:22am
  @soy
  
  hey man, i honestly want to agree with you, but the other people are right… the constitution DOES and should’ve always protected life. You can call it a fetus or whatever term you want, but what makes that small being any less alive than you? What makes the lil one less alive than a already-born baby? They are both completely helpless and they both have their own individual heart beat and set of dna. Is a seedling not alive either? It’s just got a leafy tumor We have to understand that what was thought to be true back 40 years ago has since been utterly proven false… It’s obviously a helpless, defenseless little life form that has every right to having a place in this world as you or I. When you say that term, you know what it reminds me of? A term given to slaves so the people start to look down on them as if they aren’t people, as if they’re property. Just before you start trying to make sense of it scientifically, just remember what all they told us back in the day. it’s like a fingernail… like a tumor… just a clump of tissue… a burden… then comes the widely accepted term “fetus”. I mean CMON people, do we need another bill of rights to once again affirm each and every human being their self-evident unalienable rights?
  
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- Balzy
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 3:42am
  “It’s just got a leafy tumor…”
  
  sry i was distracted and kinda forgot to finish that sentence. I think I got my point across tho
  
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- AntonW
  Posted on January 23, 2013 at 8:16am
  Hatchet, Patty Heny is a bully. She uses GOD like the mob boss uses his muscle man “Rocko” to try to intimidate and instill fear in others. If that fails, she resorts to plan B and accuses others of being possessed by Satan. She lives in the narrow, dark little world that can result from the lack of higher education and being stuck at home with only a small number of people in her world. Emotions like empathy and sympathy are foreign to Patty, and you can forget about expecting her to have the intellect to understand the complexities of issues like abortion. Thankfully, outside of homeschooling her two daughters (poor things) and scolding her husband John for leaving his clothes on the floor, she has no power in the real world. So I guess we can just chalk her mean-spirited rants here on The Blaze forums to entertainment:)
  
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Supah_Patriot
Posted on January 22, 2013 at 2:55pm
Everything’s a conspiracy to you people.

Feeling good after Inauguration Day, that once again the fundamentalists were denied any real power.

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- Gonzo
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:05pm
  What are you babbling about?
  
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- SquidVetOhio
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:06pm
  And really happy you can still murder babies. Good for you.
  
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- civilwarcometh
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:07pm
  Saul Alinsky is proud of you grasshopper. Your training is now complete. You can leave now…..
  
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- The_Postal
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:07pm
  What do you mean by, “You people”? RACIST!
  
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- Ghandi was a Republican
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:12pm
  What? You think people are corrupt when they go about THEIR OWN business. Wait till they are going about YOURS!
  You celebrate an alinsky radical? You are sick. You think an all powerful Government with corrupt bureaucrats all the way down to clerks who sell “Government” services to the highest bidder (usually the mafia, for re-distribution as their power base) will be good for you? That is exactly what happens 100% of the time.
  
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- spirited
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:18pm
  “No matter where one stands on McCorvey, one thing is clear: The historical figure who was the centerpiece of one of America’s most contentious Supreme Court cases has a complex past and, subsequently, is an individual who is viewed with a diversity of opinion by people on both sides of the aisle.”-The Blaze article
  
  ~~>Who are “you people” ?
  
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- progressiveslayer
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:21pm
  It’s just looking for attention,it’s an obamazombie that loves to be a slave to the state but the problem is it wants us to be slaves to the state as well and that’s not going to happen.
  
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- Supah_Patriot
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 3:29pm
  Cry me a river, folks. Cry me a river.
  
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- 00100111
  Posted on January 22, 2013 at 4:26pm
  The only thing I saw you type was “Derp derp derp derp”. Can you try again, please?
  
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