Was Adam Lanza really the only shooter at Sandy Hook Elementary School? Why are there supposed inconsistencies surrounding the weapons that were used during the attack? And are some of the parents really “crisis actors” brought in to make the situation that much more believable?
Those are only a few of the questions that have been posed by conspiracy theorists who have used the Internet to virally spread their doubt about the horrific massacre that unfolded in Connecticut on Dec. 14.
The main crux of the arguments presented in documentary-style videos is that the Sandy Hook massacre is either a government-planned hoax intended to lead the nation to overwhelmingly embrace increased gun control measures. Or, at the least, those who have put the videos out believe that essential information is being withheld from the American public surrounding multiple shooters and other game-changing elements. The motivations of those who have created these theories are difficult to pin down, as most are spouting their views anonymously.
A video documenting purported inconsistencies surrounding the tragedy that killed 20 children and six adults inside the school has gone viral, gaining more than 11 million views in just two weeks. And a follow-up “documentary” has also been released, adding further “evidence” to the claim that the event either didn’t unfold at all or that it happened contrary to the media narrative that has been advanced.
To most people, the idea that any of it is true is repulsive. So we decided to visit the most popular of the theories and break them down in a point-by-point debunk.
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In addition to questioning the official account of weapons used and whether or not crisis actors were employed by the government, theorists have taken aim at parental reaction to the shootings and have claimed that memorial pages for the victims were published before the shooting took place. And these notions only scratch the surface that is the bizarre world of Sandy Hook Trutherism.
The shadowy individual behind the first video, entitled, “The Sandy Hook Shooting – Fully Exposed” (30 minutes in length), weaves together sparse details and attempts to poke holes in the overall story. As for the first video, Snopes.com, a web site known for debunking untruthful information, dismissed it as “a mixture of misinformation, innuendo, and subjective interpretation.” You can see the clip here:
The second part of the Truther initiative, titled, “Sandy Hook Fully Exposed” (19 minutes in length) tackles similar themes, builds upon the first video and attempts to defend those individuals who are questioning the details associated with the event. In addition to asking a variety of questions about family members who lost children, the videos even devote time to questioning whether “crisis actors” were brought in to speak with media in the wake of the attack. See Part II, below:
“Isn’t something like Sandy Hook just what the government needs to start disarming the public so they don’t have to worry about people being a threat to them anymore?,’ text embedded in the video reads.
TheBlaze has decided to go through both videos to provide you with a recap of the major points that Truthers are raising. In addition to presenting the arguments that those perpetuating an alleged hoax are positing, you’ll see reasonable explanations that essentially debunk their claims and questions. In any crime scene – especially one as traumatic and dramatic as what unfolded at Sandy Hook – information flows quickly and it isn’t uncommon for incorrect details to make their way into media. This, as you will see, is the case when it comes to numerous elements surrounding this tragic shooting.
THE MAN IN THE WOODS & ADDITIONAL SHOOTERS
Sandy Hook Truthers have spent a great deal of time and energy reporting about a man who was allegedly chased in the woods nearby the school; the individual was subsequently apprehended and the entire spectacle is captured on video — footage that is now being used to advance the idea that there was another shooter. The first “expose” shows media interviews with witnesses who claim to have seen this individual in handcuffs following the incident. If it is true that there was more than one shooter, this would obviously turn on its head everything that has been said about a lone murderer (i.e. Lanza).
The man in the woods, though, isn’t the only theory about additional shooters floating around. Additionally, others claim that there were two men who fled the scene in a van. Initial media reports did say that there may have been more than one shooter involved, but as the details came in and the events were clarified, Lanza was the only gunman named and the evidence cleared every other initial suspect.
While conspiracy theorists continue to question where these additional suspects are and why the media has allegedly failed to report about them, there are some pretty convincing counter arguments and debunks surrounding this matter.

Heavily armed Connecticut State troopers are on the scene at the Sandy Hook School following a shooting at the school, Friday, Dec. 14, 2012 in Newtown, Conn. A man opened fire inside the Connecticut elementary school where his mother worked Friday, killing 26 people, including 18 children, and forcing students to cower in classrooms and then flee with the help of teachers and police. (AP Photo/The Journal News, Frank Becerra Jr.) MANDATORY CREDIT, NYC OUT, NO SALES, TV OUT, NEWSDAY OUT; MAGS OUT Photo: Frank Becerra Jr., AP
The Newtown Bee, a local outlet, reported that a law enforcement official told them that the man seen in the woods had a gun and was nearby the school. He was apparently an off-duty tactical squad police officer from a nearby area. Also, Chris Manfredonia, the father of a 6-year-old student at the school, was handcuffed briefly by police after he ran around the school in an effort to find his daughter. And another unidentified man was briefly detained, but later released when he was found to be an innocent bystander, Snopes.com claims.
Those being interviewed by media likely saw one of these individuals, leading Truthers to suspect something sinister. Lt. Paul Vance, a media relations representative with the State of Connecticut, dismissed the notion that there were other shooters, while also highlighting and confirming the fact that authorities did end up detaining and quickly releasing other individuals.
“Were there other people detained?,” Vance rhetorically asked. “The answer is yes. In the height of the battle, until you’ve determined who, what, when, where and why of everyone in existence…that’s not unusual.”
THE WEAPONS USED INSIDE THE SCHOOL & THE VICTIMS’ BODIES
Another point of contention that Truthers seem to be focusing upon is the weapons that Lanza used in committing his crime. In the first video, the narrator claims that, according to media, three guns were found at the scene (two handguns and one assault rifle). Four handguns were also allegedly found inside the school. The inconsistency here comes from the Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, the chief medical examiner, who said following the incident that the assault rifle appeared to be responsible for the children’s deaths.
Here’s why Truthers are jumping all over the claims surrounding the assault rifle. The first video alleging a hoax claims that this particular weapon was later recovered from the trunk of the car that Lanza was driving. If this is the case, then critics are questioning how Carver’s claims could be possible. The shooter clearly couldn’t have used the assault rifle to commit his crimes if the weapon was in the trunk of the car the entire time.

In this photo illustration a Rock River Arms AR-15 rifle is seen on December 18, 2012 in Miami, Florida. Credit: Getty Images
But there’s an understandable answer here as well. A few days after the attack, clarity surrounding the guns finally emerged. Lanza left a shotgun in the car, but he had three other weapons that were brought into the school – a Bushmaster AR-15 rifle, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm (the latter two are handguns). The fourth weapon – the shotgun – was left in the vehicle’s trunk. Carver was correct in making his claim that it was the AR-15 that was responsible for the children’s deaths – a firearm that was not in the trunk as the first video indicates (CNN actually has a great primer on the weapons that expounds upon this in detail).
While we’re on the subject of Carver, it’s important to dispel another rumor – that the parents never saw their children’s bodies. While they did not identify the bodies in their entirety, pictures of the kids’ faces were provided to the families. This wasn’t done to be sinister or to hide details; quite the contrary, the doctor was trying to spare the families the pain of seeing the horrific injuries the children sustained, so photos of their faces were used instead.
SCHOOL NURSE’S ALLEGED CLAIMS ABOUT THE KILLER’S MOTHER
Andrea McCarren, a reporter for WUSA, reported in the wake of the killings about a conversation she had with Sally Cox, the Sandy Hook school nurse. Cox, who McCarren described as “fairly traumatized,” apparently told the reporter that she knew the killer’s mother, a kindergarten teacher at the school. Initially, media reported that Lanza may have been the son of a teacher, but this was soon dispelled.
Truthers are questioning this story, though, obviously wondering how McCarren was given information about the killer and his mother that ended up being entirely untrue (they argue that the school nurse should have had the information correct and that her mention of a teacher at Sandy Hook is curious, especially considering the details we now know).
During McCarren’s report, the journalist also said that the nurse expounded, claiming that Cox said that the kindergarten teacher was kind and exactly the person one would want his or her children to spend time with. Snopes notes that the USA Today also “mistakenly reported…that Nancy Lanza” was a teacher at the school. Perhaps this report and McCarren’s were based on the same misinformation.

Sally Cox’s credentials in the State of Connecticut (Photo Credit: CT.gov)
Some have also claimed that Cox is also not a registered nurse, but her real name is Sarah and a search of that name does, indeed, yield results that show that the woman is a registered nurse in the state’s registration system. Since “Sally” isn’t her birth name, it’s obvious that a license attacked to that name isn’t available in the Connecticut database (see above).
ROBBIE/EMILIE PARKER & LYNN/GRACE MCDONNELL
Emilie Parker, one of the 20 children killed at Sandy Hook, is a central character in Truthers’ questioning, as they throw a number of theories about her very person and her family’s reaction to her death into the mix. In addition to claiming that the young girl was Photoshopped into at least one family image, those questioning official accounts claim that her father, Robbie Parker, can be seen getting “into character” before a press conference — something they dismiss as proof that he may, indeed, be acting or playing the role of a grieving father.
This latter accusation relies upon footage of Robbie purportedly laughing before a press conference. In the clip, he can be seen smiling, taking a moment to compose himself and then allowing emotion to overtake him. “How many parents are laughing and joking a day after their first child has been shot,” a text message reads across the screen in the first hoax video. Later, the words, “I smell B.S.,” are added to describe the father’s reaction.
The video also claims that Parker wasn’t in her class photos and that she appears in images with President Barack Obama following the shooting (something that obviously wouldn’t be possible had she been killed during the incident). But the below video explains that the little girl shown in the image is one of Emilie’s sisters, not the young girl who perished just days before:
At least one other parent was targeted for the same reason – for appearing too chipper in the wake of losing a daughter in the horrific incident. Footage of Lynn McDonnell, mother of a child named Grace, came under scrutiny after the parent spoke with CNN’s Anderson Cooper about her immense loss. While remembering her young child, she expressed facial expressions of joy. However, considering the content of her commentary (she was remembering her young child) it seemed entirely appropriate (in fact, TheBlaze covered the inspirational interview when it aired in December).
CHILD SECURITY EVENT PLANNED FOR DEC. 14
Those embracing the notion that Sandy Hook was a hoax also question an event that was put on by the Division of Emergency Management and Homeland Security (this department falls under the state’s Division of Emergency Services and Public Protection). This particular event was purportedly planned before the shooting and aimed at helping explore strategies for protecting kids in the result of emergency situations like what happened that same day at Sandy Hook.

A list of classes that occurred before the training that has come under scrutiny (Photo Credit: CT.gov)
This event did occur, but it isn’t as surprising as some might assume. On the surface, it may seem odd that the FEMA class, called “Planning for the Needs of Children in Disasters,” was offered on the same day that Sandy Hook unfolded. But this course was also offered six additional times in the state of Connecticut during November and December. It wasn’t a rare occurrence only planned on the day of the shooting; it was an event that had been repeatedly held within the state’s boundaries during recent days and weeks.
MEMORIAL PAGES & ASSOCIATED INTERNET TIMESTAMPS
The Truthers are particularly fired up about various memorial pages and social media initiatives that they claim were created days before Lanza’s crimes at the elementary school. In addition to teacher Victoria Soto’s Facebook memorial page, which they claim was created on Dec. 10, four days before the shooting, the individuals behind the video and movement also point to a GoFundMe initiative, among others, as also having timestamps that precede the event.
Inquisitr explained how the Internet, despite being quite advanced, still has its hiccups. Here’s a brief recap that explains some of the reasons behind date stamps seeming incorrect on various posts and web sites:
To understand the Sandy Hook websites that seem to have been published early, you must first understand the way the internet reconciles dates as well as how Google crawls them. If a page is repurposed to host other information than it originally displayed, it may show up as having been “published” earlier.
Further, servers and sites often have incorrect dates. Having used a number of WordPress panels in my career, it is a job to keep track of where dates and times are set in order to avoid publishing in the past when scheduling a post, something that could be at play and an easily explainable factor not often acknowledged by Sandy Hook truthers.
And given the fact material can run afoul on an individual computer, a site’s panel and then a search engine, sites like the United Way’s Sandy Hook page could easily register as a prior date on Google.
When it comes to Google results – another target the Truthers point to – the Internet giant isn’t always correct. Sometimes, search results have the incorrect dates associated with them, clearly a factor that is overlooked in the conspiracy theory videos. As for the web sites that seem to have an earlier date stamp, another theory is that certain donation and Facebook pages that were created for other reasons were edited and amended to assist with Sandy Hook efforts following the shooting. While they retained their earlier creation date, their intended purposes changed.
TheBlaze spoke with Justin Basch, CEO of Basch Solutions, a web site production company. The tech expert dismissed conspiracy theorists’ claims, calling them “nonsense.” He explained the many ways that dates can be manipulated in WordPress (the platform running at least one of the web sites at the center of the debate).
“It’s very, very easy to manipulate a date that content was published — whether it’s through text, whether it’s through date manipulation, etc.,” Basch explained.
THE SYMPATHETIC AND HELPFUL NEIGHBOR: GENE ROSEN
Then there’s Gene Rosen, the neighbor who lives nearby Sandy Hook. He began appearing in media immediately following the shooting, telling of his involvement in housing six children who had escaped the school that fateful morning. Rosen has been interviewed numerous times by the mainstream media and he has explained how he entertained the children inside of his home after they fled the school in terror.
The Truthers, though, claim that Rosen’s story has some troubling inconsistencies. Among them, they charge that he is a member of the Screen Actor’s Guild (SAG), a professional union of acting professionals (thus, advancing the theory that he might be a crisis actor). They also claim that Rosen’s story about discovering the children in his driveway changed and evolved during various appearances. While in some interviews he described the six kids sitting with a female bus driver, in at least one other account, he described a male adult talking harshly to the children, the video proclaims.
Additionally, Rosen, a retired psychologist, told reporters that the children told him their teacher, Ms. Soto, was dead. Initially, some media reported that only one child escaped the classroom where the majority of the kids perished, but this ended up not being the case (others seemingly escaped as well). Rosen also said in one interview that he saw the list of victims not long after the shooting, but conspiracy theorists claim this isn’t possible, as it wasn’t released until after the time he claims to have seen it.
A list of casualties, though, was released the day after the shooting and, as Snopes documents, the Gene Rosen who is a member of SAG is a different individual – one who has never lived in Connecticut. The retired psychologist at the center of this particular case has always lived in the state (while both are in their 60s, the actor is 62 and the Newtown resident is 69).
LANZA’S VEHICLE ON THE DAY OF THE SHOOTING
In the second video, which spent some time defending Truthers against attacks, an bizarre claim is made about the vehicle that Lanza drove to Sandy Hook on Dec. 14. While it has been widely reported that the car belonged to his mother, whom he also shot dead before heading to the school that morning, hoax theorists believe that the car is registered to a man named Chris Rodia.
While it may be tempting for those looking for holes in the story to wonder if Rodia was complicit in helping Lanza with the attack, Snopes.com debunks this, claiming that Rodia was pulled over at a traffic stop and, thus, ended up being named on a police scanner. Salon recaps how this particular element of the story was debunked:
This one was debunked by the theorists themselves just a few days after the shooting. Blogger Joe Quinn obtained the police audio, which definitively debunking the myth. (Rodia appeared on the scanner because he was getting pulled over in a traffic stop miles away, but his license plate doesn’t match Lanza’s car). “This was a huge blow, because lots of people were making big leaps on this … but we now have to look elsewhere,” another amateur investigator said on YouTube.
To clarify: Rodia is not a suspect and he did not own the car that Lanza drove to the school, as the video seems to allege. Rodia was also not at the school at the time of the shooting. Snopes claims that “he was driving a different vehicle in another town at the time.”
CRISIS ACTORS DEPICTED IN MEDIA
Truthers’ have gone out of their way (there’s even a disclaimer at the start of the first video) to claim that they are not trying to dismiss the event as though it never happened. Instead, they say that they are merely asking pertinent questions and, in a sense, exercising their civic duty as caring and in-tune Americans (a tactic likely being used to separate themselves from the criticism being thrown their way). Among those curiosities, a consistent theme emerges: The idea that crisis actors were used.
We already covered Rosen and the theory that he is one of these individuals. But there are others who are being dubbed potential crisis actors. One couple in particularly has come under scrutiny. CNN interviewed Nick and Laura Phelps, parents of two children at Sandy Hook Elementary School. In the exchange, Nick becomes emotional while describing the principal at the school as “a very special person.” It’s clear that the family was impacted by what unfolded.
But Truthers question the motivations, sincerity and identity of Nick and Laura, claiming that they may actually be Richard and Jennifer Sexton, two actors from Florida. This bizarre claim — that the couple was brought in to merely depict parents who have children at Sandy Hook Elementary, is one of the more curious ones being floated. The evidence being posited?
The hoax video shows images from an alleged Picasa account belonging to Richard and Jennifer (the actors). Those who believe that something isn’t quite right about Sandy Hook claim that the photo album was deleted after it gained attention. In addition, Truthers are using a clip showing Laura (or Jennifer) giving what appears to be an audition or performance.
But Snopes claims that the husband and wife duos merely resemble one another and that they are not, in fact, the same individuals. While the videos seem to indicate that there may be a connection between the Crisis Actors company – a group that provides actors to simulate traumatic and disastrous events, there is no connection between the actors provided by the group and the individuals shown in media interviews. Plus, a simple web search shows that the family does, indeed, live near the school.
Crisis Actors (the company) also makes it clear that its performers do not engage in real-life events. While the video alleges connections between the Sandy Hook families and these individuals, no such connections exist. In fact, the company has gone out of its way to dispel such rumors.
See Anderson Cooper address some of these controversies:
UNDERSTANDING THE VIDEOS AND THEIR CREATOR
While the conspiracy-laden clips have intrigued some, others find themselves completely horrified, sickened and offended by their contents — especially considering the pain that the families of Sandy Hook victims have already endured. Following the publication of the first video, reaction and media coverage was swift. As noted, the creator of the videos made it a point to vehemently defend himself against critics.
“This video was made to clear up confusion and shed light on new information. Apologies to anyone offended by the past videos,” a caveat at the beginning of the second clip reads. “[W]e hope this one is easier to digest. Would you rather be hurt temporarily by the truth, or comforted forever by lies?”
Later, the anonymous individual behind the clips claims that it is unfair for critics to label him and others supporting his ideas as “Truthers” – or even “conspiracy theorists.” Such labels, text embedded in the video reads, implies that those questioning the event are “over the top, crazy, and against everyone else.”
“These are millions of everyday people that deserve answers to their questions,” the text continues. “And it seems by labeling them like that, it’s easier to dismiss them and not have to look at the facts.”

Mourners embrace following funeral services for Connecticut elementary shooting victim Emilie Parker, Saturday, Dec. 22, 2012, at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, in Ogden, Utah. Emilie, 6, whose family has Ogden roots, was one of 20 children and six adult victims killed in a Dec. 14 mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn. Credit: AP
However, those looking to debunk the Sandy Hook debunkers would dismiss these views as fringe. Even the person who created, “The Sandy Hook Shooting – Fully Exposed” and its companion video was surprised by its viral nature. In an interview with Gawker before the video released, he seemed surprised by its viral nature, telling the outlet that he would have “spent more time on it” if he knew it would be so popular. TheBlaze reached out to him to get further comment, but we did not receive a response.
“[I]t all started when me and my friends used to research 9/11 in high school,” said the source, who refused to identify himself to Gawker. “That’s what really got me started when it came to researching government cover ups…Once I learned about all the false flag attacks in history that have been proven to be true, I knew it was only a matter of time before another came a long.”
Apparently, in the mind of the individual behind the videos (which were published on a YouTube channel under the account ThinkOutsideTheTV), Sandy Hook was next in this purported line of government cover-ups. The individual went on to tell the outlet that he felt as though the event was “too perfect” and that the people and the town involved had an “artificial vibe about them.”
OTHER THEORIES
Since Sandy Hook unfolded, other conspiracy theories have emerged, although the aforementioned YouTube clips have become the most pervasive and widespread. TheBlaze already told you about James Tracy, a communications professor at Florida Atlantic University (FAU), and his controversial comments about the Sandy Hook massacre.
Tracy, too, appeared on radio interviews, where he advanced the crisis actor angle, claiming that the Obama administration might have deployed these individuals to stage the attack in an effort to further crack down on guns. On his personal blog, he cited InfoWars.com as well. Later, he clarified his comments, claiming that while “one is left with the impression that a real tragedy took place,” images and information have been withheld from the public.
The entire ordeal, which captured national attention and was covered by TheBlaze earlier this month, led FAU to separate itself from Tracy’s comments. Lisa Metcalf, director of media relations, said, “James Tracy does not speak for the university.”
In the same Blaze report, Jason Howerton covered Dr. James H. Fetzer, a professor emeritus at the University of Minnesota Duluth (UMD). In an op-ed published in an Iranian (state-owned, of course) outlet, he charged that, perhaps, the Mossad (Israeli security forces) were responsible for the attack.
“The killing of children is a signature of terror ops conducted by agents of Israel,” he wrote. “[W]ho better to slaughter American children than Israelis, who deliberately murder Palestinian children?”

Parents leave a staging area after being reunited with their children following a shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., about 60 miles (96 kilometers) northeast of New York City, Friday, Dec. 14, 2012. An official with knowledge of Friday’s shooting said 27 people were dead, including 18 children. It was the worst school shooting in the country’s history. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)
These, of course, of just two of the numerous alternative conspiracy theories being floated. There are plenty of other ideas that have circulated since Dec. 14. However, the growth in popularity of the latest videos creates some serious questions that deserve to be answered in order to properly educate readership.
At least one father of a first-grader at Sandy Hook took the issue to heart, showcasing his frustration in an on-air phone call that was placed to radio host Glenn Beck. The father, named “Pete,” expressed his dismay at the conspiracy theories, calling Trutherism an “unimaginable way to even look at a tragedy or horrific event.”
“I was there. I’ve been to the funerals,” he told Beck. “I know the families very closely. I know a lot of those children. It happened. It really happened.”
But if thats not convincing enough, consider BuzzFeed’s logic: ”The evidence on which these budding theories are based is, even by the standards of fringe conspiracy theory, remarkably thin, and demand massive collusion between hundreds of private citizens, the federal government, local authorities, and the news media.”
While the viral nature of the videos has begun to simmer, the mainstream media has not provided a level of coverage that would disseminate the truth fervently enough to dispel the rumors. Setting the record straight and showcasing the truth, though, is essential.

























































































































Comments (658)
PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:00pmWhat county came out FIRST demanding the U.S. citizens be disarmed. CHINA.
Who has the most to lose if CHINA is not appeased? The U.S. Treasury and the Federal Reserve.
Why is that?
China is now buying up large swaths of land and Industries all over America.
The Federal Reserve & Treasury are going to convert our debt to China into U.S. equity. The “government” is guarantor against default of the investment principle to China. China is setting up “special economic zones” and “China Cities”.
We are being destroyed to China’s benefit and China wants America disarmed.
http://www.infowars.com/does-china-plan-to-establish-china-cities-and-special-ecomonic-zones-all-over-america/ By Michael Snyder
This lists all the States, Cities and Companies and plans that China and U.S. have and are implementing.
(sorry, in my above link i spelled adam wrong in the link so just go to the website the story is there)
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Mik_The_Truth_Blazer
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:29pmIf it is Infowars it is wrong, if you find a real source then I will read it.
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Raging_Waters
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:27pm@Billy Hallowell
You forgot the allegations that the father of Holmes and Lanza were both set to testify regarding the LIBOR scandal. If true, these allegations would be quite profound, in my opinion.
Also, let’s not brush aside the main reasons so many are questioning Sandy Hook: An untrustworthy mainstream media and a pathetically non-transparent government. If these had some credibility, people would not be questioning so rigorously.
BSdetector
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:43pmI stopped reading at “according to snopes”.
Snopes is a huge leftwing shill just like polifact. Regardless of the accuracy of these theories, or if polifact are correct on THIS story or not, they cannot be trusted and should NEVER be used as a source.
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Heather Cocolin
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:23pmI guess I have just one question? Where are the wounded?
Children are the most resilient age group and yet there is not one wounded survivor. Not one who a cop found with a pulse, not one that made it to an ambulance and not one that died at the hospital.
All mass shootings have wounded except this one.
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:24pmYou call this article investigative journalism?? All this story is is just a repeat of the official government. Just like a parrot you guys are only repeating what we are to believe. You guys didn’t investigate anything. You just used Snopes as your news source. Try getting off your lazy @sses and actually hit the pavement investigating. Find out first hand if Robbie Parker is his real name and if he really had Emilie. Too bad YouTube is where real investigative work happens anymore by private citizens. This article is lame at best.
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TrueColours
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:24pmMik_The_Truth_Blazer
Posted on January 23, 2013 at 12:29pm
If it is Infowars it is wrong, if you find a real source then I will read it.
Oh, like extreme left wing Snoops? That cra**p is REAL but not Infowars? We know Glen has a hard(on) about Inforwars Alex Jones. Glenn apparently doesn’t like the competition.
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desertspeaks
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:25pmthe so called main stream media has LIED to us so often about EVERYTHING, they cannot be trusted EVER!!
there are entirely to many anomalies with this story that just do not make sense, so any critical THINKING human has to question the story that changes on a DAILY BASIS!
Is our government above staging an event? NO!
Has our government killed innocent children before? YES! waco texas!
Are there elements in our government with ulterior motives? YES
Are there individuals in our government that feign allegiance to our country? YES
When you take the aforementioned questions into consideration, WE MUST QUESTION EVERYTHING!
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pitboss711
Jan. 23, 2013 at 4:12pmHere’s the right link for the infowars article…
http://www.infowars.com/does-china-plan-to-establish-china-cities-and-special-economic-zones-all-over-america/
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donkeykong
Jan. 23, 2013 at 4:36pmHeather – spot-on, IMHO. Even in war, if you
hit 26 people statistics show not ALL will be
hit fatally. And, I can’t get out of my mind the
section of video, broadcast live, as it were,
of the supposed ‘grieving father’ laughing and
joking, then getting ‘into character’. WHERE is
this truly debunked ? Nowhere, because it is
in the archives of world-wide news agencies
everywhere, and will forever be public record.
This footage, sick as it is, DOES exist, and
millions saw it live. Out of all the coverage
I have seen, it certainly wasn’t faked – it was
broadcast live that night….grieving father my A$$.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:13pmMan, look at Beck and his henchmen towing the gov’t line. “Hey, the gov’t said this and that, so it must be true (sniff, blink eyes, mouth-breathe, gulp).” What a crock. Like others said, if the MSM and the govt were more honest, there would be no conspiracy theories. I quite frankly quit believing ANYTHING they say decades ago. You reap what you sow.
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:28pmThis article is a complete joke. Nothing investigated except what Snopes.com says. Why even bother running this story?
Why not investigate to find out who’s car Adam Lanza drove to the school. Snopes and the government says it was a RF line that got crossed. All you guys have to do is run the plates and see who the car belongs to. That’s too much work though.
Who is Emily Parker? Did she ever attend that school? Track down Robbie Parker and find out his background. Find out where he lives. It’s not that hard for an “investigative reporter” to do with your resources.
Ask experts on your own whether or not those Parker family photos were photoshopped. Ask computer programming experts if it’s common for Facebook and websites to put dates that are several days before the page was actually created. I don’t see it being that common.
Ask the neighbors of the Lanza’s if they knew the family. There are videos out there of neighbors saying they don’t know who they were or anything about them, even though they supposedly lived by them for 15 years. Do your due diligence and go ask the neighbors yourself (the investigative journalist) whether or not the Lanza family was known.
This article is just a regurgitation of the official government storyline. No actual investigation was done. You guys might as well have just said “the GOVERNMENT says no other shooter is possible because…..” and not ask any questions.
That’s what this article is, no q
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:47pmLet’s not forget to stigmatize anyone who doesn’t believe the government or Juden controlled Marxist Media. Label them Truthers or Birthers or some other stigma to make them sound crazy. That’s an old communist trick-to label anyone as mentally ill who challenges them. “Why you would have to be CrAzY not to believe the government.” “You would have to be cRaZy not to love communism.” Give them a label and call them crazy. People are on to the leftist name calling tricks. Subtle little tricks is what they are all about.
TheePolitinator
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:51pmReally, I can name 100 times Info wars has nailed it. That’s the issue with you lemmings. Oh and this article don’t debunk anything. EXCEPT. GB we know your heads big. We do not need more articles of you trying to once again be the supreme being in “real news”. IF anything this article just proves theres much about the entire event that screams foul.
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ConnConservative
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:16pmHallow ell- pls explain how 120 lb Lanza carried 100 lbs of ammo? ALso Rosen said he looked at the list on that Friday and that mothers kids name was on it. Impossible! Why would a bus driver drop the kids off at his house when it was past the firehouse?disgusting that the Blaze would use SNOPES to verify the truth. You have lost credibility with me!
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techengineer11
Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:06pmRaging_Waters
“Also, let’s not brush aside the main reasons so many are questioning Sandy Hook: An untrustworthy mainstream media and a pathetically non-transparent government. If these had some credibility, people would not be questioning so rigorously.”
Great post. This is what I find most frustrating. You know this Media trash is vile filthy and utterly perverse yet when it comes to a story like this we’re just suppose to trust these disgusting mfkers?
Well I’m glad for one that many are beginning to see Beck for the Shill he actually is… Beck is as phony as a 3 dollar bill!
Wouldn’t surprise me if he were not working for the Mossad given his close relationship with Murdoch.. Doesn’t Murdoch have citizenship in Israel, Australia, and the US?
Wonder where his loyalties really stand?
Anyway even far more questions about 9-11 yet the “official” story is as the Gospel Truth acccording to Beck…
Ole cry baby Beck.. So glad so many are seeing through this pathetic fool!
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Jarhead 88
Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:04pmSnopes? Really Beck? Have you gone to the darkside? You disgust me right now. So many unanswered questions and you throw Snopes out? WTF!!!??? You better WTFU buddy.
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:49pmHey Glenn, explain how Adam Lanza had his brother’s ID on him when his brother claims to have not seen Adam in years. Explain that. Why doesn’t any reporter interview the father or brother of this so called killer? The silence by the media speaks volumes. Investigating this incident wouldn’t fit the agenda. The silence from the media is deafening. They have a definite agenda.
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Twobyfour
Jan. 23, 2013 at 9:06pmCan someone explain to me how teh “shooter” Adam Lanza was shooting people at Sandy Hook, on December 14, 2012, when he was according to SS administration record deceased a day earlier (Dec 13,2012)?
Debunk that!
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Timesupsoon
Jan. 23, 2013 at 9:07pmNew video from MSNBC says four guns and no AR. Who’s crazy?http://videodelivery.msnbc.msn.com/now/stitched/mp4/3aaae01e-e0f4-439d-aa7a-8d5e3e774105/00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000/8c913e59-c00a-4d37-925b-27b6ed698fcc/4dda96b9-290c-4e01-a645-f71f9a790cfb/0/0/95/-229570452/tdy_1_pwi_presserinfo_12121.mp4
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Keatonc333
Jan. 23, 2013 at 9:41pmHeather.. all the children were shot and killed on the spot. they were all shot multiple times, many in the head, with a high powered rifle.. There were no survivors. I don’t care how resilient you are.
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mrsuperpat
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:00pmHow about some CCTV images. The media always releases images of all other crap. This school had just upgraded it’s security. I’m sure there are some pictures that could settle this.
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truthupordown
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:04pmThose darn conspiracy theorist they’re always believing and making up things that aren’t real. Like Christ dying on the cross and dying for your sins or if you’re a Mormon you could take Joseph Smith for instance, a man that professed to know Christ was a profit and a Mason and then was killed by the Masons talk about conspiracy Theory. We are good at at labeling people in this country. we dehumanize people by Nigerizing them therefore we try render them sub human and unworthy of our time or in some cases rights. The people in our communities or those trying to bring the truth to light are not the enemy. We should be uniting not bickering about this or that. there are still many good questions raised around the Sandy Hook shootings. I think Glen just doesn’t wont to be labeled as one of those guys. Well Glen you are.
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CynicalPatriot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:14pmGlenn Beck is the one who taught me about progressives, how they don’t value individual human life, and that our government is infested with progressives of both parties, but then he also says it’s crazy to suspect that they would murder people to acheive their political goals. Which is it, Glenn?
Between this, and telling me that I should meekly get on the train when they come for my guns, I’m done with you, Glenn. You’ve jumped the shark with me.
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CynicalPatriot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:18pm“How about some CCTV images. The media always releases images of all other crap. This school had just upgraded it’s security. I’m sure there are some pictures that could settle this.” MRSUPERPAT
No. No. NO. We can’t ever do that. It would make the relatives cry, so those pictures must be locked up in a vault at DHS for ever and ever.
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treyeanglelockdown
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:30pmIt does make me wonder why several shootings have happened in the last few month most done with assault rifles. Sounds very convenient for the gun control creeps who for some odd reason want to leave us defenseless and relying on government protection. Infowars is not mainstream and is easily dismissed as hot headed conspiracy theories do to some of Alex Jones earlier work. Glen will debunk and let rest assured because he said so kind of like Brad Metsler from decoded witch is bunk.
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Charleyhorse
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:45pmThis article is weak. Sorry Glenn, no sale. You are just another part of the problem.
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:53pmHere’s the deal with Glenn. He is too busy fantasizing about his new city he’s going to build….Jonestown Part 2. He is looking for investors for it and he’s not going to get investors if he says anything controversial. He is towing the government line. Plus, the government might not grant permits and zoning ordinances if he’s saying the government did a false flag. Moreover, Judens don’t want Americans to have guns and those same Judens run the media. And those same Judens might invest in his new city, so he must obey them. It all makes sense why Glenn is taking the position he is, when you really think about it.
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ishka4me
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:02pmMany of the false reports from the media created the conspiracy theories. I have seen the msnbc clip where they state an ar 15 was found in the car on several websites. Since when is msnbc a reliable news source? Closer viewing of the msnbc clip shows a cop unlaoding a shot gun. There are bad people out there that kill innocence and it doesn’t matter to me if they push them into a train, poison tylenol, drive a car into a crowd, etc… there is evil out there and will kill when they feel like it, with a limitless amounts of tools to do so.
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Oldmantex
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:52pmMan in the Woods section – Umm first off if a tactical officer was at the school from another location, he would not have been then without notifying the locals. Its a good way to get shot. Run around in plain clothes at a massacre with a gun….RIGHT.
Second, if he was dumb enough to be there, maybe out of a misguided idea he could get there faster and help save someone, he WOULD NOT HAVE RUN. Which clearly happened, not only is it on video, its on the police scanners. Plus there were two men and that is on police scanners as well.
The men in the van were being looked for and we being called out on the police scanners as well. So it wasnt a rumor, police were looking for men in a van.
Finally you quote a local paper that posted a quote about the shooter from the PRINCIPAL that was supposedly DEAD. Could you use anymore unreliable sources in your investigative reporting?? WOW
I honestly dont know what happened, and really dont care. But watch the video below and maybe even hire the guy that made it. He clearly did more research than Billy did…..at least he presented police scanner audio and video, not just Snopes, a site Glenn has railed against for years. SHEESH.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwIvy1GXRU&list=PLEC70437FC0A27241&index=1
I submit the only one propagating this thing now, is Glenn and company. Makes for lots and lots of hits doesnt it…Shameful!!
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13a
Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:43am@ALL OF YOU CONSPIRACY THEORISTS:
It’s sad because maybe some of you are intelligent people and a mind is a terrible thing to waste. You guys will rationalize anything that you think proves that there is a reasonable doubt of any event. The community at Sandy Hook is grieving yet you disrespect them by repeating half truths and outright lies being passed around. If you want lies, then go to infowars so you can share your neurotic schizophrenic behavior amongst people who share your same looney ideas.
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bioengineer
Jan. 24, 2013 at 1:06amSo this Lanza guy, he must really be a Chinese spy. I bet he had plastic surgery to make him look like a mentally disturbed white kid.
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Twobyfour
Jan. 24, 2013 at 2:18amKeatonc333: “Heather.. all the children were shot and killed on the spot. they were all shot multiple times, many in the head, with a high powered rifle.. There were no survivors. I don’t care how resilient you are.”
So, you saw the bodies? That’s interesting, because the Canadian father of one of the alleged dead teacher was not allowed to see her body. In fact, no family of the alleged victims was allowed to see the bodies of their respective relatives.
Why?
@ 13A
No. I am not a conspiracy theorist. It’s just this whole sad Sandy Hook affair reeks of so many contradictions and incongruities, that one has to be pretty dense not to see that. It is almost like on a purpose: “Let\s see how much wool we can we pull over sheeple eyes!” The sheeple baaaa like expected and to the rest, “See, even when we make so many obvious *mistakes*, there\s still nothing you can do about it, we control the vertical, we control the horizontal!”
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Twobyfour
Jan. 24, 2013 at 2:34am13A, I don’t care about infowars or Alex Jones. I don’t get info from there, period. My opinion is not formed by anything anyone says or by whatever dots someone may try stringing together. Just the networks footage, police scanners and hard bits of evidence like official records.
They all indicate that there is something seriously amiss with the official narrative.
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sillyfreshness
Jan. 24, 2013 at 2:38amHere is a new investigation by another private citizen (since the Juden Marxist Media remains silent).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EwIvy1GXRU&list=PLEC70437FC0A27241&index=1
So you can trust Juden owned Snopes (David and Barbara Mikkelson-Judens) or believe the above link. I know with Glenn Beck and Blazers love of “chosen people” it won’t matter. Just “useful idiots” that trust the “chosen people” controlled Marxist Media.
http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/media/internet/news.php?q=1227232155
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Stoic one
Jan. 24, 2013 at 3:34amMik_The_Truth_Blazer
ANY story worth it’s salt provides sources. Here on the web I have my ‘links’ (sources) highlighted. When I find it pertinent; I will spend HOURS following all of those links. I just finished an hour + going through Infowars links..and formed my own opinions. I have done this with the Nat’l debt, Benghazi, and here with Sandyhook.
Consistently the Fed ‘SPINS” things to what the fed perceives as it’s advantage. The fed no longer serves The United States of America. The fed sees we the people as the enemy. What REALLY happened at Sandyhook? To paraphrase Hillary: It does not matter; a bunch of children are dead! And what is the government going to do? Restrict the rights of law abiding citizens–THIS WILL MAKE OUR CHILDREN SAFER!
So sayeth Bathhouse Barry…..It is so…..
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22
Jan. 24, 2013 at 6:11amDoes anyone remember when it was a badge of honor to be called crazy for believing in Glenn’s theories and conspiracies? Remember not being alone in the way you thought and felt? Now Glenn, who in the past has asked us to question everything that the MSM and gov’t. say and do, is calling us crazy! I’m sorry but somethings don’t sit well with me and this story. I question all of it. Glenn, I’ve been a fan since 2002 and it saddens me to say that I’ve cancelled my subscription and I can’t listen to you anymore. The way you have treated Alex Jones, who I’m not a fan of, and the way you’ve been throwing around the “crazy” term just ****** me off. He’s a Christian too and should be treated with some respect, right? The money and power you’ve attained, through our subscriptions and donations, has gone to your head. Who are you now? I’m supposed to believe all of the Agenda 21 crap and the Soros conspiracies but a false flag at a school is out of the question! What about your build up to the FEMA camps and within 8 hours time it’s a non issue. You’ve changed, and it really does sadden me because so many of us looked to you as beacon of hope in these dark times. I guess its time to get my flashlight out of that expensive emergency kit that I bought from you, and go it alone again. I liken you to these Freshman congressman who go to DC with fire in their blood to change the country, only to be corrupted within a couple of weeks. Pat and Stu, you guys are
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lordjosh
Jan. 24, 2013 at 7:41amThe sheen is coming off, isn’t it?
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22
Jan. 24, 2013 at 8:06amYes it is. Instead of bright and shiny, it has dulled and corroded. Sadly…..
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ZengaPA65
Jan. 24, 2013 at 8:57amMore establishment propaganda from the neocon government shill Beck ever masquerading as a libertarian.
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:06am@truthupordown
Great post man
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CABERNETQHS
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:06am@SILLYFRESHNESS
I say we call ourselves “sandy hookers” and save the left the trouble.
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CABERNETQHS
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:13am@ 22
My feelings exactly, great post.
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ConnConservative
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:34am22- you said exactly what is in my heart! I will be very sad today over Glenn. I went to Restoring Honor, Love and donated to Mercury One and have attended 9/12 meetings for over 2 years. I have learned so much from him and I am eternally grateful to him for that. It appears that it is time to move on and further my growth in other ways. I am going to pray for more like minded souls to connect and help form communities. Something Glenn has recently espoused. Blessings to all.
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SLAPTHELEFT
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:52am“massive collusion between hundreds of private citizens, the federal government, local authorities, and the news media.”
Oh thats all that would be required for these theories to have any merit? Doesnt seem like a strecth anymore does it?
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SavvyCowboy
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:20amThis whole Sandy Hook thing (and this article) do NOT pass the “Smell Test” whatsoever!!!! It’s all a huge Ovomit LIE!!!!!!!!
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encinom
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:39amAnd Frankenstein’s Monster turns on its master and creator.
I am enjoying this, the Beckerheads have gone full ******, after being fed a steady diet of paranoia and fear by Beck, so much so that when Beck attempts to tell them the truth they turn on him.
Keep spewing these insane, Alex Jones inspired conspiracy theories, you are only proving to the rest of America just how out of touch with reality the Tea Party and the Gun Nuts are.
Where is the pop corn, the show is just getting go.
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CABERNETQHS
Jan. 24, 2013 at 12:51pmIf ENCINOM is agreeing with Beck, I know there’s a problem.
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ccseng
Jan. 24, 2013 at 2:00pmI don’t think that the Sandy Hook shootings were fake or were a “false flag” or were a government training op. I also don’t think that this awful tragedy is being exploited by “truthers”. I think the generalization of all people as kooks who see something wrong — in our leaders’ (that’s “leaders” in the ironic sense of the blind leading the blind) irrational reactions and self-serving politicization of tragedy — is disgusting and insulting. If you don’t see something wrong in the slanted reporting and the attacks on Constitutional rights, you aren’t paying attention.
In 50 or more mass murders or unprovoked murder/suidices like Sandy Hook, Zoloft, Prozac, Paxil, Ritalin, Luvox, Effexor, Celexa, Lexapro, and/or many other anti-depressant and psychoactive prescription drugs were being taken by the shooters. The fathers of both James Holmes and Adam Lanza were both scheduled to testify before a Senate committee on the LIBOR scandal. Could such father’s sons be on anti-depressant drugs? Do you ignore the implications? Do you ignore the possibility of a hidden motive in cover-ups, suppression of news immediately after first release, suppression of police reports, and straw-man attacks on gun owners, the right to bear arms, and the gun industry? You don’t have to have a massive conspiracy for drug companies and politicians to take advantage of a tragedy. You don’t have to have a massive conspiracy to doubt the news media and the government. I do.
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encinom
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:57pm“The fathers of both James Holmes and Adam Lanza were both scheduled to testify before a Senate committee on the LIBOR scandal.”
That is a debunked internet lie, there is no Senate hearing into the LIBOR scandal, the businesses the men worked for had little to do with the scandal and neither men were in a position to have nay information. Basically, this is a litmus test and you passed. You proved the lack of intelligence of Beck’s audience.
Keep spewing the debunked conspiracy theories, keep proving the sane Americans just how crazy the tea Party/Fringe Right is.
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Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art
Jan. 25, 2013 at 3:55am“This Is TheBlaze’s Point-by-Point Sandy Hook Conspiracy Theory Debunk”
Well, TheBlaze (and Billy Halloween), once to get Barack Hussein Obama’s birth certificate right, THEN you can move on to the likes of Sandy Hook.
Until then, just paste-and-copy your A.P. stories and leave that blame where it belongs …
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CulperGang
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:58amThe Blaze is relying onSnopes??? A Hollyweird affiliate.
Does Beck know he has been inflitrated by the sons of perdition? http://www.mrm.org/sons-of-perdition
History of Snopes
David Mikkelson used the username “snopes” (the name of a family of often unpleasant people in the works of William Faulkner)[8][9] in the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban.[10] The Mikkelsons created the Snopes site in 1995,[11] and later worked on the site full-time.[6][9][11]
A television pilot based on the site, called Snopes: Urban Legends, was completed with American actor Jim Davidson as host, but major networks passed on the project.[9
SH was a false flag to ” Infringe” and disarm the righteous so elite can continue the abuse of power.
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Triple7
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:33pmYeah snopes, I recall Glenn saying on his radio show that you shouldnt rely on snopes. He asked who the hell is snopes?
Theories of conspired events will always be part of human minds. People still talk about JFK. Pearl Harbor. Moon landing. 9/11. UFO’s
This is brought by leaders who lie. If somebody lies to you enough you tend not to believe them. You want to believe in people, Lance Armstrong for example but……
Lie lie and deny. Truth? Dont ask why, do a Hillary and fake a cry.
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Trigus
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:57pmWho would have thunk. Glenn, true colors always come out.
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Mairi Kay
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:24pmSnopes is actually a husband/wife duo who have lied repeatedly and changed information at their site to align with Barack and cohorts. They are huge supporters of the fraud. If Glenn wants to rely on them for verification, his head is stuck where it doesn’t belong.
CNN and others were using live feed footage from a second school St. Rosa. They were holding a safety drill, and it is more than apparent to anyone who watches the CNN video and looks at the two schools just 1.4 miles apart, that you are seeing footage of a drill being labelled as the active ‘shooter footage’ at Sandy Hook, that is actually footage of the drill at St. Rosa.
Give me a break, Glenn. I *used* to admire your researchers, but if snopes is the best you can do to support your debunk…..you are truly off the reservation.
“http://theintelhub.com/2013/01/19/sandy-hook-smoking-gun-revealed-factions-of-government-law-enforcement-and-mainstream-media-including-anderson-cooper-engaged-in-treason-against-the-united-states-and-its-citizens/
By Shepard Ambellas
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Note: In no way is the author of this article claiming that there were no victims shot at Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012, rather the article points out a complex false flag operation with very real victims.”
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AtTheReady
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:37pmCulpergang – you said a mouthful about Snopes. Snopes.com has been debunked for being a leftist propaganda tool on previous stories – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes. I remain on the fence about Sandy Hook – the video does not lie about blocked parking lot exits, lack of emergency vehicles within immediate proximity to the school after all was done, etc. What I AM convinced of is that I believe this government is CAPABLE of perpetrating something like this, even if they didn’t do this particular event.
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jcldwl
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:37pmFunny the Blaze, established by a man who’s GBTV used to say “The truth lives here” is using snopes to debunk a conspiracy theory. If I remember correctly it was Glenn who introduced us to the statement of Cass Sunstein, “Call it a conspiracy theory even if it is the truth.” I know people died but there are still so many questions and the reason I question is because so many of these massacres occurred during just the first term of our known, thanks to Glenn, communist president. Whom we all know, thanks to Glenn, is pushing us “forward” into collapse, so they can form one world communist society. And we also know, thanks to Glenn, that the man pulling the strings is George Soros and that he has said the biggest obstacle to his new world order is the United States of America. And we now know, thanks to Glenn, that the progressives have been working since Woodrow Wilson, whom he hates, to push us into communism. We also know, thanks to Glenn, that history shows tyrants that have taken their countries into communism or hard left socialism have disarmed their citizens through the use of proganda, (Lies). We also know, thanks to Glenn, that the communists in charge of our country follow Saul Alinsky’s ,”the end justifies the means.” I could go on and on but can you begin to see why we now doubt everything and we seek the truth. Call me a truther if you like but that last time I checked, it is the truth that shall set you free, not snopes.com
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SandboxSoldier
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:44pmGlen is relying on snopes, is equivalent to the National Enquirer relying on The Daily Sun for credibility. Seriously Glen, you lost credibility by publishing this story that glosses over key issues or even fails to address most of the facts as known.
For example: the car from Rodia was at the scene, how was it there?. Why was it there?. The supposed shotgun is the trunk has a charging pin?, since when?, in the video you can see the officer using the AR, CLEARING THE AR. you dont operate a shotgun in this manner.
The Blaze is really in need of better writers and fact checkers, relying on snopes?, really?….pfffffftttt.
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ryan
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:45pmI agree about the use of snopes! Really? Snopes?
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theaton
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:05pmI’m disugusted that Beck and The Blaze are turning into the MSM that they said they wouldn’t. I don’t believe that SH was an false flag operation. There is no need to do these types of false flag ops. The side effects of ADHD (psychotropic) drugs are homicidal and suicidal thoughts. Convince enough parents that their children have a disease, force feed those children deadly drugs and you’ll eventually get the outcome that you want. I recently heard a report that ADHD cases are up 38%. We can expect more of the same.
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walkintruth
Jan. 23, 2013 at 4:38pmI am also beginning to wonder the same thing. There are too many things to debunk. Snopes is not a credible source and did not explain the questions I have about his case. Frankly, I am surprised at Glenn for not looking deeper in to this. He knows history better than anyone. He knows about the false flags Hitler used to gain power. What is going on Glenn?
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:35pmI just watched the YouTube video of the cop and the gun in the trunk. You guys here know me. You know where I am coming from. I put ARs together from scratch. Every single piece. I know what I see there. It is not an AR. The weapon the cop is clearing is a semi-automatic shotgun. I will say it now, it appears to be a Mossberg 930 SPX. He turns it so the left side is down, ejection port up, and racks the charging handle mounted on the right side. That is the first time I saw it and it was obvious. That is a fact. Come on, you vets on here. You know better than that. Take another close look at it.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:44pmHere is the YouTube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLrxSgkqJQc
Look, I despise progs and the MSM. But, it is a semi-auto shotgun.
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Canyouhearus
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:27pmThe Truth About Snopes, Obama and Aspartame
http://drleonardcoldwell.com/2010/08/13/snopes-exposed-dont-use-snopes-do-not-use-snopes/
Is this true? Who knows? But it’s a bit on Snopes.
As far as Sandy Hook, I don’t know what really happened. Right now only those involved know for sure. I do know I would have been a basket case for some time… no big smiles for the cameras had one of those children been mine! What I do know is there are far too many questions unanswered. And I know I am disappointed in Glenn for producing this story… and really for being so demanding that we are ignorant for questioning and not blindly accepting his point of view. What happened to Question with Boldness? Guess only he can question. I may be looking elsewhere for my info from now on.
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urcrazyimnot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:49pmYou folks are morons, they didn’t cite the whole article from snopes, they simply made a quote from it. I hope to Hell you people never wind up in a job that involves fact checking, you’re an embarrassment to Americans that believe in logic and fact.
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Gary Ogletree
Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:35pmBeck’s sleazy side is on display. Too many valid qestions he can’t find answers for. Can’t erase the police scanner and all that footage.
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liberated_patriot
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:02am@triple7 JFK is not a conspiracy in my mind. Look up his infamous speech and I think it will be more clear today than it was back then. He spoke out against international bankers, the media and the people behind the curtains running the show. The powers that be had him assassinated ONE week later. Any president that is openly against central banking has either lost their life or has had an attempt on it. Not conspiracy my friend.
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Tom Gantert
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:58amI don’t believe in any of the conspiracy theories. However, all this story does is piggyback on 2nd hand reporting from other news sources. It links to Snopes and references other news organizations reporting. That’s not only incredibly lazy, but it also is what the conspiracy theorists are doing. Snopes isn’t reliable. I’m a reporter. They change their “findings” and then play it down when confronted. I got burned by Snopes when they changed their findings months later and people accused my news site of being inaccurate.
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greenongreen1
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:53pmAgreed. This was lazy reporting. I’m disappointed with The Blaze on this one. Not only did they piggyback the information/reporting, but this article (as many others) is not without obvious typos.
I’m a fan of The Blaze and get the majority of my news from The Blaze, or related sources, but this is disappointing. Relying on Snopes and other slippery sources is less than acceptable, as far as I’m concerned.
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zapparules
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:05pmInteresting. You call The Blaze lazy for relying on snopes when… that is exactly what you / your ‘news organization’ did. Perhaps you and your news organization – as well as the resource-capable Blaze should maybe do some of their OWN investigating – eh?
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ellietoo
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:09pmI agree that much of the writing the Blaze puts out is very amateurish. I heard them talking about how fast they get the story online. Maybe they care more about getting a story out first than they do about accurate and complete information. You would think that a site that claims to only put out the truth would do some fact checking on their stories.
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frust@ted
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:50pmI don’t think that Sandy Hook is a Conspiracy, i think it happend. But this aritcle wasn’t really the best at debunking either, it was no popular science article on 9/11.
That being said the main stream media is to blame for the conspiracy theories, the rash nature to be first at reporting something causes the problem. It creates a conflicting report that can never be taken back, now you have people out there showing clips of what is just bad journalisim and using it to say their is a consipiracy.
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riseandshine
Jan. 24, 2013 at 11:17am“But this aritcle wasn’t really the best at debunking either, it was no popular science article on 9/11″…….LOL……Popular Science didn’t debunk anything.
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TX_45_ACP
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:54am“Sandy Hook Truthers” Wow checkout the Blaze dish out labels!
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imperative
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:06pmI remember some years ago when Beck was on Fox News that he talked about a new strategy used by the left wing progressives. He described how instead of going after the particular topic, they now go after the individuals associated with that topic by giving them labels ending with “ers”, as in “Pro-lifers” or “Birthers”.
It now makes me cringe when Beck and his organization frequently uses the same tactics.
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jcldwl
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:43pm@ imperative
I agree…seems Glenn thinks we have short memories as well. Well I have his last two years on fox copied to DVD. Perhaps I should revisit them.
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imperative
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:01pm@JCLDWL – I wish I could remember exactly when it was. I think it was early in the “Birther” days, and perhaps around the time that Beck made his controversial claim that Obama doesn’t like white people. I can’t say for certain though.
If Fox News has public transcripts that can be searched, I may be able to find it. I’ll look around.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:58pmI know. Shows you what they really think of us. Even if the kids were shot with an AR, that does not disprove the theory of multiple gunmen or that Lanza was lured there to be nailed as a patsy, a dupe. Just like Ozwald was. Oz thought that he was the only guy pumping Kennedy. In fact, I have seen interviews where those in the know say that 2 Italian snipers dressed as railroad workers shot Kennedy from the grassy knowles, broke the rifle down, threw it into a long tool box and carried it away. Witnesses saw this. So, I am convinced that there is an evil secret bunch of well connected wealthy goons prying their craft here in America. I do not put anything past our govt. I used to be red, white and blue for this country, but now, I hate and distrust my govt at all levels. But, I still hope for the best and will join other patriots when the time comes. Stand tall patriots.
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AUsername
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:02pmwere not done with 911 yet either and likely sandy hook was an inside job to.
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Sir_Templar
Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:37pmI guess it’s fair to call me a Sandy Hook Truther being that the ENTIRE 2nd Amendment is riding on this massacre. I DEMAND the damn facts and the Blaze failed miserably to deliver any facts, just refute allegations and conjectures that were there in the first place because the media did a half @ss job on reporting the facts. Glenn, you are right. The Truth no matter how much it hurts us, the families is going to have to be found. We aren’t getting it. Now, I wonder if we will even get it from you. I don’t question your integrity on this one as much as your method. I feel for the families, not so much by so called truthers, but by a Gov’t who would exploit their deaths in order to push an agenda, you did not even mention THAT FACT once. The bodies were not even cold and they were writing legislation and how abominable is that? The truth is, what the hell is the truth? That is why we subscribe, give me more than this. Who are we to believe SNOPES? First Investigative Report should be Sandy Hook, that is the only way to redeem yourself on this one. The Constitution is at stake and it’s all on the backs of the innocents who happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Go after the REAL CRIMINALS the US Government and their complicit media sidekicks. The Blaze is a result of Citizen Journalism, not driving it.
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Lloyd Drako
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:52amIt’s way too late. Conspiracy theories have a life of their own, and it takes more than facts to quell them. Otherwise we would not still be hearing that the Jews assassinated Lincoln, that Bush planned 9/11, or that George Soros is masterminding a plot to destroy America.
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CulperGang
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:01pmyou don’t read much do you?
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Lloyd Drako
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:12pmI read everything I can get my hands on. That’s why I’m reasonably sure that the Jews did not assassinate Lincoln, that GW Bush had nothing to do with planning 9/11, and that George Soros is a multibillionaire who contributes to progressive causes and has interesting, though by no means completely correct, ideas concerning the sources of our current economic and financial problemsl. Let me ask, have you ever read anything by this “evil Nazi Jew” yourself? I have, and until you have made some serious study of his life and theories, as I have, then you would be well advised to STFU.
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Vilgax
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:47pmSoros is a Jew who worked as a teen for the Nazis. He turned in his own people and confiscated their property. He has said in interviews – filmed interviews – that they were some of his happiest days. His funded organizations are all progressive, radical left agenda, groups whose sole purpose is destroying America’s economy (he has a published track record of destroying economies) as he admitted again in filmed interviews. He said America was his biggest challenge. You can watch taped interviews and actually see him say these things. He’s evil. There is no question.
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Lloyd Drako
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:02pmI have a question. The same one I asked CulperGang: Have you ever taken the trouble actually to read anything Soros has written? Yes, he is a progressive, and wrong about some things, but hardly “evil.” As a teenager in Hungary during WWII, he accompanied his Gentile guardian who was taking inventory of the property of a Jewish family that had fled the country. (That family survived.) He has said he does not really think of himself as a Jew or care particularly about Jewish causes. Is there some reason why he should? He has never singlehandedly “crashed” any country’s economy, though he did once make a lot of money speculating against the pound sterling–as did many others, since the signs were not difficult to detect. He did help finance some of the opposition movements that brought down Communist governments in East Central Europe in 1989-90. I should think that at least would count in his favor. He does not hate America, but he does hate the way it’s failed to get its financial house in order, as I’m sure you do also. I recommend breathing into a paper bag while counting to 10. Make that 100.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:15pm“The destruction of America wil be the culmination of my life’s work” – George Soros.
And before you attack with unfounded claims, I am not a birther, truther, etc. I only believe what I see with my own eyes anymore. However, I urge you to study video of implosions so YOU are better informed.
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Lloyd Drako
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:45pmI’ve done some due diligence and the origin of this Soros quote seems to be an interview he gave to one Peter Wilson for “The Australian” in 2009. The relevant portion reads as follows:
SOROS; The financial crisis, and how to solve it. . . . was not something that I was particularly concerned with prior to the rise of the crisis and I am also involved in the activities of the (Soros) Foundation.
WILSON: But for the past 18 months you have been keeping an eye on the markets?
SOROS: Yeah but I have also been writing a lot more than I was writing before because the crisis really stimulated me. I wrote a series of articles in the course of the year, I wrote a book, I published a book and I’m just about to publish a sequel to last year’s book, bringing it up to date, I am just working on it now.
WILSON: So do you have a sense that things are coming together for you now?
SOROS: It is in a way a culminating point of my life’s work, so to speak.
WILSON: Everything is coming together.
SOROS: Yeah, the American election, the financial crisis, the theory of reflexivity. So it is actually a very stimulating period.
Perhaps this is Soros wishing and working for the destruction of America, but that is not what actually comes out of his mouth. You can check for yourself at:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/soros-interview-part-one/story-e6frgabx-1225690077292
Let me know what you think.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:12pm@Lloyd – good find. That said, I strongly question his motives; what is he doing at the highest levels of our government. I think we would agree that private charity is much more efficient than gov’t programs, but don’t want to speak for you. Certainly, he knows this too. Soros funds Tides and CAP almost exclusively with the intent of changing the direction of our nation, not for “good”. His world views are opposed to those of American Sovereignty, are yours? The left-right paradigm is dead. As you seem intelligent, I recommend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SyKuOpIAI&playnext=1&list=PL6C0804E80A28D0FC&feature=results_video – link to Jim Marrs banned college lecture
as well as Paul Harvey’s warning to America circa 1965 or so, also on youtube, not real meaty, but spot on.
“A man with no education is uninformed, a man with a liberal arts education is misinformed”- Mark Twain
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:08pmYou might not agree with Drako, but at least he brings forth cogent arguments with facts and leaves out the personal attacks. You have to give him that much. We conservatives should never be afraid of a solid fair argument. Unlike the prog freak Sensai. He is mentally ill. Good debate guys.
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YOURSENSEI
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:49amThis is what you must know:
Lunatics explaining lunacy to lunatics. Ah conservatism. No wonder you all wear shoes with Velcro straps. “It’s called a spork. Yes. Isn’t it funny? A fork and a spoon all at once. Plus you’re much less likely to hurt yourself with it. Go ahead, try it in your mac ‘n’n cheese.”
Honestly, how do you people make it though the day?
It is so.
bumfuzeled
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:14pmwow such a pompous a$$ calling everyone else stupid your remind me of your socialistic president.
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Polarized America
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:16pm.
..I don’t often Reply to you. but when i do i may or may not agree with you ,,,/;-)
hows it going interesting troll …lol
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Jaimo
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:19pmReally? I have an idiot leftwing nutjob of a brother-inlaw who to this day thinks that George Bush blew up the World Trade Center so he could go to war with Iraq to punish them for attempting to assassinate his father. So don’t talk to me about conspiracy theories, we’re just as entitled as the leftwing to think the other side is out to get them. Remember just because we’re paranoid doesn’t mean that someone isn’t out to get us.
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ssbstspd
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:07pmAre you serious wanker Wacko what ever you call yourself these days ? You are dispicable, you really are. When and if tshtf i hope you suffer in the gutter thinking about all the times you called us conservatives idiots and stupid. I hope you rot in hell F@gg0t
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john koenig
Jan. 23, 2013 at 4:43pmSensei, as long as you keep bringing us our coffee and cleaning our toilets, we’ll make it through the day just fine.
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:34pmI am here to tell you that Wango is mentally ill at the very least and a tactical amateur at best. Notice how he uses his grizzly mug as his avatar. What a chump. Every patriot this side of the Hudson will be scoping for his ass when the time comes. He will be running like Logan with us hot on his trial. Now that is gonna be a hoot. LoL
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Cuthalu
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:47amThis story is no more than a hit piece directed at anyone questioning the government/media’s “official” story of the events than it is about debunking anything. How shameful. Oh, Billy Hallowell your story would have been more believable had you not made HEAVY use of logical fallacies to push it through as well as making backhanded insults to those questioning the story instead of actual facts being presented.
Covering up or making excuses for the government is very telling. Indeed.
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VanceUppercut
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:07pm@Cuthalu
Since the whole Newton conspiracy that nuts like you have cooked up is one giant “logical fallacy”, you don’t have much ground to stand on, Skippy.
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Cuthalu
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:31pmOh my, name calling is all you have? That’s your plan? If calling people you disagree with as “nuts”, then that says more about you than it does about me. Someday you and people like you will have to start seeing things as they are instead of just believing what you are told because it is easier to accept a lie than to see an uncomfortable truth. If you and others want to eat up the lies our government, their lap dogs in the media and others who work on their behalf to cover up for their misdeeds, then that is on your kind. The rest of humanity is starting to see and understand what is and has really been going on around them to the point that there will be a “great awakening”, regardless of any efforts to stop it. In an age of worldwide deceit, questioning things become a revolutionary act.
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HellboundandDown
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:21pmyou spelled Cthulhu wrong…
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Cuthalu
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:46pm@Hellboundanddown, Incorrect. I spelled this name exactly how I intended it to be spelled. Had I wanted to spell my name used on here, I would have used the spelling of it as you wrote. I did not for a reason. K, thanks.
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ERRRR_UseYourHead
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:28pmSo maybe one of you conspiracy theory believers can help me out with something. Every conspiracy theorist I see always screams about not believing the media. But then you look at this video and the first thing we are told is to believe a report amid all the chaos and confusion like ten minutes after the shootings occurred as 100% gospel truth. So what is it believe the media or not believe the media? Just kind of funny to base a conspiracy on what the media said but then tell everyone to question the media.
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Chief48
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:39pmYou are correct Cuthalu, this article and the TV show were an absolute embarrassment. Enough for me to cancel my BlazeTV subscription. Glenn has jumped the shark this time.
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RLJMAH
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:47amNot buying any of it….I still think it was a hoax, and I believe nothing that comes from Snopes. They have been proven time and time again to be wrong….People may have been murdered, in this government that is just called collateral damage.
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DoseofReality
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:08pmYou sir are an imbicile, an *sshole and are p*ssing on the graves of 26 victims. I live near here, I know first responders….this happened.
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Uncurable wound
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:10pmTrue and now the blaze has sold out for all to see!
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SimpleTruths
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:43pmPlease provide on solid example of where Snoops has been wrong.
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Blazin Glory
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:55pm@dose calling him “sir” kinda let the air out of your balloon….. He is a “stuck” (stupid fk) not a “sir” j/s
Ever notice how the dumocrats use all those fancy words and still cannot make 1 descent argument ?
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guest18
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:52pmDose, why is it you liberals are incapable of writing without hateful, demeaning name calling? If you had made a comment using common decency, I may have given your statement some consideration.
Can you, or one of the other liberal trolls, explain why no one had seen or heard from Adam Lanza for close to three years? Neighbors hadn’t even seen him! During that same period of time, his mother’s closest friend said she wouldn’t let anyone in her house, including them. Since you were supposedly in Newtown, please explain this anomaly?
Glenn Beck, since you insist a partial, left-leaning facts checker (Snopes) who have been proved wrong many times, and because your site has been overrun by liberal, name-calling trolls, I have decided to unsubscribe from your site. I can’t even recognize you as the man I loved to watch on FOX!
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lisalake
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:01pmHey, DOSEOFREALITY— we know it happened. The ******* questions ARE HOW IT HAPPENED.
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Lovell
Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:00pmI followed this story from almost the minute it broke. There are serious flaws in the governments or the *authorities* tale. Most importantly, what about all the unanswered questions? The ME said all the kids and adults were killed by *the long gun*, but now they say no they sure weren’t! So what is it?
How about the vehicle? Who’s was it? Where are the autopsy reports? What drugs was Lanza on,. if any? Who was his MD?
What happened to poor Mrs Lanza that fateful morning? How did killing her grant access to her guns?
I am hugely disappointed in Glenn Beck and the Blaze. Shameful lack of honest reporting and NO asking of questions. Pitiful.
As near as I can tell this whole thing was a made for tv movie…and honestly, the govt sucks at it. Luckily the sheeple just changed channels after a few days and didn’t question their beloved government..
The magnitude of the deception, the depth of it, is stunning…And that is also part of why people refuse to look further. It is discombobulating.
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Charleyhorse
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:05pmI’m with you rljmah. Let the name calling begin. I remember when truthers used to be called something else……journalists.
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THX-1138
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:45amUntil I see video I will have doubts. It would be far too easy to set this up. Hell, *I* could have set this up. A few meds here and there, whack a parent and give the kid guns, then whack the kid…
In a sane world I’d believe the official story but I’ve been lied to over and over by these people. *Nothing* is beyond their limits.
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Gonzo
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:37pmThe fact that the government has for years acted in ways that make the people mistrust them enough to consider this conspiracy as a possibility, is a tragedy in itself.
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Max Power 1
Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:08pmI see Beck couldn’t “debunk” this one. What about the bullet EXIT hole in the teacher’s car? An entrance hole in the door,& an exit hole in the pillar. The angles preclude these being from the same shot.
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2012/12/sandy-hook-bullets-hit-teachers-car.html
This proves that whatever really happened there, was not as is being fed to us. A shot was fired INSIDE that car.
Beck has been compromised. I mean, c’mon, Beck ridicules the conspiracy by using snopes?? Oh yea, they are unimpeachable (sarcasm). Just like he investigated election fraud & found none. Who’d he use for that, the DNC?
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Jazaan
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:43amMy theory is that Lanza could have been identified by those who are anti-gun (obamaites) and then through internet gaming and meds been subliminally provoked into the act. plain and simple I believe that this type of phsyop is and has been used for years, I also do not believe that Lanza is the only one, just read the paper.
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:59am@Jazaan
I think that is the most compelling theory.
We know the FBI befriends crazy people, coaxes them into committing terror plots, gives them fake bomb, and then foils it at the last minute. This has happened many times over the past year. Then when you consider Fast & Furious…..Your theory is just a combination of two things the government has already done.
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Soulfire1975
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:02pmDon’t forget the drugs he was on which allows people to be more easily controlled.
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DoseofReality
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:10pmMy gosh,….you people are truly becoming unhinged
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ranepowel
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:30pmLol I love Soy. This guy is just classy, and the way he gives mountains of evidence to support his lies is just…it’s just amazing. I mean, look at all the proof he just used to show that the FBI befriends people and then gives them fake bombs. I mean, he just gave a wikipedia-amount of proof, and always does.
Link me to some more infowars and personal conspiracy blogs, dude. You’re out of your g-damn mind. :)
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jcldwl
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:54pm@jaz
I have the same belief. I started thinking that as soon as I heard in one of the news stories early on that Lanza had destroyed the hard drive on his computer. Doesn’t make sense to me that he would bother to do that. And don’t forget Glenn said one of the Navy Seals killed at Benghazi sent out a call for help through an on line game. Guess Glenn gets the credit for me thinking that way. Thanks Glenn.
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:21pm@RanePowel
Sorry – i didnt know there would be low-information readers who have had their heads under a rock for the last 3 years…..
http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/13263-fbi-celebrates-foiling-its-own-terror-plot-again
http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=41403
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Mil-Dot
Jan. 23, 2013 at 10:03pmI am with Soy. Can you guys believe that the goon Rane thinks that the FBI doesn’t coax plots along only to burn the cretin at the last moment. I knew he was stupid, but not THAT dumb. That is SOP for the feds. What do you think “undercover” means? It means set them up and rat them out.
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13th Imam
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:42amObviously THE MEDIA is responsible for putting out FACTS( rumors) before the other guy. I live 20 miles from this , and can say it did happen. All you have to do is follow the money. These conspiracy theorists just want to cash in on these children’s livers. Just like the Anti-Gun nuts want to capitalize on these murders. Let no crisis go to waste, the philosophy of DEMOCRATS and conspiracy theorists alike.
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GreatScott53
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:03amSo because you live within 20 miles:
1.) You were inside the school and witnessed the shooting?
2.) You personally know most of the Parents whose children were shot?
3.) Obviously, you didn’t see some of the Parents laughing 2 days after the shooting before they gave interviews?
4.) Could you be a paid troll working for Beck or Uncle Sam?
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 24, 2013 at 1:13pm13th Imam can “see Sandy Hook from his backyard”
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Bodacious_Boedi
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:42amQuestion everything, especially in these times. Conspiracy theories can be debunked with no harm to anyone. Dismiss it as ludicrous and that IS what happened and we’ll all find ourselves with streets running red.
I’d rather have things questioned. As far as being labeled, I’m a Libertarian and a staunch 2nd Amendment proponent. I carry a weapon…..ALWAYS….so I guess that makes me a gun nut.
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JESSEBEGATDAVID
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:41amDebunked?
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momrules
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:38amSome of the ways that horrible conspiracies are fruitful are that anyone who believes in a conspiracy is labeled a lunatic, a tin foil hat wearer, made fun of and made to look stupid.
How many believe that the Obama administration CONSPIRED to run guns into Mexico and then conspired a coverup? How about Benghazi? The Arab Spring? Are gun control advocates conspiring to take our gun rights away? Is Obama conspiring with the Muslim Brotherhood and the unions, etc,etc?
Open minds are needed. Not closed minds that only believe what the media, the President or Snopes say.
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Rajabear1
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:37pmThank you, momrules. I think you said it quite well. The idea that we are to take media or gov at their word lest we be deemed lunatic or ‘alinskied’ is not what I signed up for. I will not be a sheep that follows, but I will read, listen and research to find the TRUTH.
For the reasons listed by momrules and knowing who and what we are dealing with, it does not strain the mind to believe that killing innocent children and then creating a straw man to push the agenda one more progressive step, all for the greater good of a new world order, is not far fetched.
Yep, some of the theories can be debunked and can be far fetched, but the story line they have fed us also has some of the same characteristics. Why would you NOT question it? Is it because the victims are children, not ‘just’ an ambassador and a couple of seals???? Then you have fallen hook line and sinker for propaganda and they have finally hit on your weakness.
Keep in mind this is not r vs. d, or gov vs. citizen or progressive vs. constitution. This is the the fight of our lives and for the soul of what is left of this country vs. The rest of the world wanting their new world order (that includes many ‘Americans’–R and D). You really think the UN crowd (including our gov and beyond), would stop at killing US children to achieve their goals? Then you have and are still asleep and have not looked at the big picture.
Easier to believe a kid went nuts rather than the “theories”, but….
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Heather Cocolin
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:56pmThank you MOMRULES!!! I guess no one wants to believe that a hoax is possible since no video, pictures or bodies have been seen, like have been in all the events that you speak of. How backwards is that?
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steve61lindsey
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:38amThis is a conspiracy because many people (rightfully) don’t trust their government. Benghazzi is another good example. The Obama White House told us absurd lies for weeks that no sane person would ever believe.
I would like to see an autopsy report that shows who was killed by what. Names could be omitted to protect privacy by referring to the victims by number. It seems probable that a killer would use a semi-automatic pistol instead of a semi-automatic rifle in such close quarters. Do I think the federal government would lie about the details to help ban rifles? Sadly, yes. The end justify the means to the Obama crowd.
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urnokid
Jan. 23, 2013 at 6:42pmI also wonder why they showed the face of the children to identify them to the parents, were none of the children shot in the head? Just seems strange.
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Whatmeworry-never
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:37amNotice how affraid everyone is of Obama now, even Glenn knees have buckled. Yes, truethers are annoying. Yes, The Regime is using Sandy and the victims as stepping stones to further their Communist Regime. Truethers need and should be allowed to speak, evryone should be allowed to speak, keeps the lid on the pot from exploding and all the hatred spilling out, based on fear.
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VanceUppercut
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:17pmYes, he’s a Communist. That’s why he has gone out of his way to protect Wall Street, elaborated upon in an article called “The Untouchables: How the Obama administration protected Wall Street from prosecutions”. The fact that most Cons can’t tell the difference between Communism and Fascism (or are even aware that there IS a difference) speaks volumes about what happens when a group of people find value in ignorance, and think college if for snobs (yes, that was a reference to Rick Santorum).
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steve61lindsey
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:09pm@Vance – a have a graduate degree in Computer Science and have been a college professor at some fairly large universities. IMO technical colleges are still pretty good, but many – if not most- liberal arts and sciences colleges are worse than being uneducated. They are filling the minds of young airheads with lies. To paraphrase Mark Twain’s quote about newspapers, “People without an education are uninformed, People with a liberal arts & sciences education are misinformed.” David Gelernter’s “America Lite” is a short, but excellent book on this topic by one of America’s greatest professors.
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RaydocX
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:35amthere’s no hoax… a deranged young man so dehumanized children and teachers he could calmly kill them, as well as his mother…
but the politicians have been quick to take advantage of the dead, and damn the facts…
we still have not seen the police reports or after action debrief… what firearms were found where.
we still depend upon the medical examiner’s lamentation about high velocity wounds… no specification as to what type of weapon or weapons…
we have not seen the timeline for response beyond dispatch calls that indicate at least 10 minutes between the ‘shots being fired’ and ‘glass is broken… we need ambulances’ calls.
so we are left with questions that deserve answers, and face politicians twisting the situation to their own ends… to the public’s detriment.
there was no conspiracy or hoax until AFTER the shooting stopped.
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BADDOGGYDESCIPLE
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:25pmWell played sir.
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AdmiralQ
Jan. 24, 2013 at 2:18amagreed. I have no doubt Sh happened but are we getting the truth of what happened. We have heard how lanza got his mother’s guns. I have seen a video where you only see 4 squad cars, no abmulances just a medical SUV. and a firetruck which a guy says has Detroit fire company logos. explain or debunk that. I say in the end we see what extremes the left will go to see there goals met. why not twist SH into something they can use to further it. so set up actors and twist facts. I just like answers to my questions Glenn that’s all
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LetThereBeLight
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:34amWith all that aside, I still haven’t seen ONE picture of a real tear coming from any of the families! That to me is VERY odd! If I had just lost a son/daughter, my eyes would be almost swolllen shut from crying so much! There aren’t any pictures of anyone crying, a real cry that is! Why don’t they address that?
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YouCantExplainThat
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:43amPeople do not have to act the way you expect them to.
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LetThereBeLight
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:54amSo, YCET, you are saying that EVERYONE in that town grieves the same way!?!?! I can undestand if some don’t cry, that I get, but there is NOT one mother who is balling!!!! Show me one?!?!?! Absolutely not natural at ALL!!!!!
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DoseofReality
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:12pmYour full of ****…I live near there – trust me…peoople are crying.
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DoseofReality
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:16pmLethterebelight….you sorry excuse for a human being….come here anytime , Ill bring you the 5 minutes down the street to these parents homes – and you can tell them to their face this didnt happen. Do yourself a favor and kill yourself, the world would be a better place…im sure your spouse would agree
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tomkitten
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:18pmNot entirely true! Didn’t you see the picture of Soto’s sister–she was hysterical! I could feel her pain myself just looking at the pain in her eyes as she cried.
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LetThereBeLight
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:19pmThen, DOR, maybe you can help, and take an actual PHOTO cause not one photo or interview has shown ONE tear! Parents who “lost” kids just days prior, not one tear! I don’t buy this! Doesn’t look anything like Columbine!!! Looks staged!
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DoseofReality
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:23pmEnjoy your life as a paranoid conspriacy nut looking behind every tree for someone out to get them or lie to them. I know this happened…ive seen the sorrow on these peoples faces and here you are calling them liers, saying their grief is staged…go **** yourself, hows that?
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TheGrtDcptn
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:34pm– trust me…
LOL…uh huh…sureeeee…
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LetThereBeLight
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:59pmWell, DOS, your use of “nasty” little words still don’t PROVE A DANG THING! That’s all you guys know how to do! Start slinging insults! Goes no where with me. I’ve seen this typical type of behavior all over the place! Go ahead, keep making a fool of yourself! I will stick to questions that is based on reality!
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theaton
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:24pmAs has been pointed out, not everyone grieves the same. Also, just because you haven’t seen a picture of anyone crying doesn’t mean those pictures don’t exist. Neither every picture nor every minute of video needs to be published for your scrutiny.
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Heather Cocolin
Jan. 23, 2013 at 4:29pmYou know. When I was younger I lost a few friends to car accidents, cancer and suicide. And I can tell you this. At the funeral and after services the father always wore sunglasses and the mother always had bloodshot eyes and face fixed with a sorrowful grimace from countless hours of mourning.
I ask you this. Where are the wounded?
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andrew36
Jan. 23, 2013 at 8:23pmWho TF are u to demand pictures or videos of sad parents. Do you live there, how the F would you know there emotions. So what you are saying is that the whole community is lying that the kids arn’t really dead. Your saying the whole community has joined up with the government to conspire against the USA, Seriously everyone of them, not one of these parants would find that just a little bit disgusting, they would all happily go along for the ride. Seriously what F^%^$#@ drugs are you on. And you wonder why people think people like you shouldnt have high powered guns.
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LetThereBeLight
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:00pmNo “Andrew36″, I am not “demanding” anything! You obviously completely don’t understand my comment! It said, from the “footage” they “meaning MSM” have released, have shown “parents” who have not shed a tear either from a photo or being interviewed! My point is that it is completely not normal. Like Pleasantville’ish or something! Lacking normal emotion. Can you actually say the type of emotional response you have seen seems completely “normal” to you!?!?! Really????
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right_thinking_mama
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:35pmYou are so right on with this, Letthere. I’ve experienced terrible losses, and grieved differently than what would be expected. When my mom died unexpectedly when I was 16, I was reminiscing with friends during the wake and occasionally laughing. When I buried my infant son, I had a stiff upper lip. So I get that not all people will show the same emotion.
What can’t be explained is the lack of a tear. If you are shaken up about something…visibly upset…your eyes will get red, well up, then the tears come. There are no tears. That is not how the shaken up emotion works.
Also, no matter your grieving style, you don’t laugh, smile, stop, work yourself up, then cry like Robbie Parker did. He turned his emotions on a dime. In real emotion, there is progression. He’s clearly acting upset.
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PIGSWILLNEVERFLY
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:33amThe SSDI database shows Adam Lanza expired on December 13, 2012, the day BEFORE. The State of Issure of the death certificate is NEW HAMPSHIRE.
Danbury Superior Court judge sealed the search warrants for the properties and car for 90 days.
http://www.beforeitsnews.com/alterative/2013/01/ssdi-death-index-sandy-hook-shooter-adama-lanza-died-one-day-before-school-massacre-2-2541900.html
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guest18
Jan. 23, 2013 at 3:57pmThe link is not available. Probably scrubbed by trolls to protect their messiah.
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GetPastPolitics
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:06amTry this one for the SSDI notice Lanza died the day before the event:
http://www.genealogybank.com/gbnk/ssdi/doc/ssdi/v1:143EB37C71A1FA78
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GetPastPolitics
Jan. 24, 2013 at 10:28amAnd let’s count: 1) Twitter, 2) Facebook, 3) Vimeo, 4) Google, and now 5) genealogybank.com ALL got their date/time stamps wrong for THIS one event?!? Seriously?!? Each one of these websites had postings indicated BEFORE the event. So if you’re ever in a court of law accused of something supposedly indicated by a date/time stamp from one of these sites you just got a “get out of jail free” card.
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XAndrewX
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:33amThere are simply too many holes in the story that are not addressed by this supposed “debunking”
Who was the man that Gene Rosin saw with the kids? Who was the bus driver and how in the world did she and the man get 6 of Miss Soto’s kids out of the class room? Then they pass the firehouse with 6 kids when that is the staging area?
Why havent these “hero’s” been identified and/or interviewed?
Where is the security footage of the gunman breaking in the front door?
What happened to the 2 black “sweatshirts” (gun sleeves?) that were by the car that is visible in the helicopter footage? /watch?v=PKML6Pn3GaI
There is far too much evidence that this is a conspiracy.
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XAndrewX
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:34amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKML6Pn3GaI
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Uncurable wound
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:32amBlaze has come full circle-sellout liberals-Im with you Jefferson
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Chuck7884
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:23amhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKWgCRBR5qE
This is the fake interview that gets people thinking conspiracy theory. You decide if he was a actor or some nut looking for fame.
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strawberry411a
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:29amObama is capable of any lie you an imagine.
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tzion
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:21amConspiracy theorists are all alike. They ignore information, accuse anyone whose account contradicts there’s as being a part of the conspiracy (with no other evidence to support their claim), argue that all information contradicting them is fabricated (without evidence), and most of all, they rarely seem to agree even among themselves what the “true” events are.
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Robert Treat Paine
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:41amOk, conspiracy nuts are all nuts. But now it comes out there was NO AR-15 used in the event.
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
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13th Imam
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:58amIf MSLSD says it, it must be true.
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RJJinGadsden
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:05pmROBERT TREAT PAINE, The FBI released the weapons count and that only pistols had been used the day after that idiot medical examiner stood in front of the cameras to tell all of his lies. The media’s failure to call him out for his lies, and to seek the answers to the questions they created in the minds of Americans is simply more proof that they have their agenda, and will do anything they can to reach their goals. Wasn’t there a story some time last year that said that the MSM has an even lower rating to the public at large than Congress?
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honeydijon13
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:18amThat this tragic event ever got to the ‘conspiracy stage’ is a testament
to the lunacy of the right wing and gun nuts.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:28amYou are an evil, small person.
You troll simply to get a thrill, which makes you by definition a person of limited intellect.
When you leave this site, and you will eventually, you will not be missed.
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YouCantExplainThat
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:36am100% accurate, these gun nuts are so scared they are likely to accidentally discharge from shaking in their boots
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:44amMaybe you should research operation Northwoods, or operation Fast and Furious or Benghazi or operation Gladio. You trust in your government scares me.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:46amHow nice, you made a second handle.
Just think, you could have done something productive, but chose instead to serve an agenda and dance in the blood of children. I wish you the hard, cold reality that comes from the system you work to implement, that it comes to you directly. You deserve it.
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SLEAZYHIPPOs ILLEGITIMATE OFFSPRING
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:44pmOh don’t forget to lQQk into operation Mockingbird as well. Can’t believe I left that one out.
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Verceofreason
Jan. 23, 2013 at 5:09pm@GhostofJefferson
So you actually think this WAS a conspiracy?
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urnokid
Jan. 23, 2013 at 7:50pmThe fact that this tragic event has got to the ‘conspiracy stage’ is testament to the fact that people believe that this administration will do anything to take guns away from the citizens.
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vickivick
Mar. 25, 2013 at 5:57pmThis is why i am INDEPENDENT…I will NEVER belong to such a heartless party. btw i voted Romney and Im anti obama but some of these so called “conservatives” are embarrassing ….. nuts make me want to puke.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:14amThis is fantastic information to have, so that when you’re sitting in a jail cell, or are hogtied to the floor while they confiscate your guns, you’ll have something to discuss with the other victims Glenn is creating with his “don’t resist, ask to be arrested” tactic. Just think, on your deathbed (or on the kitchen floor as you lay bleeding out your life blood), you can proudly say that while, no, you didn’t stand up for your liberties when you had a chance and let everything disappear out of sheer cowardice, at least you didn’t buy into conspiracy theories!
Meh.
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Celeste.Christi
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:32amGood for you.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 23, 2013 at 11:38amDid you mean to reply to my post? Your reply doesn’t really relate to the post I made in any definable way that I can see. Can you clarify please?
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VanceUppercut
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:09pm@GhostOfJefferson
Are you still mad at your parents for dropping you on your head when you were an infant, or have you finally forgiven them?
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soybomb315_II
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:14pmRemember a year or two ago when Glenn had that author about the holocaust and how the Jews went along with the Nazis and did not resist until it was too late? What was his name and book, I cant remember….
Anyways, Glenn has obviously turned into a shell of his former self. 4 years ago he trashed Ron Paul in the primary, and then regretted it afterward on air when we were stuck with McCain. And just 6 months ago he trashed Ron Paul’s ideas and principles again. Glenn Beck has no more credibility. He seeks to build a media empire built upon soft mud. It is a shame so many listeners who believed in what Glenn stood for are now being deceived.
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Cavallo
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:50pmI don’t buy many conspiracy theories. My main reason is that I do not believe they are competent enough to pull such things off. This doesn’t mean that I believe they are above murdering children or killing their own citizens to advance a propaganda campaign. They’re vile. They’re twisted, but also they’re stupid. There is no part of the federal system that I have had the unfortunately luck to experience that I have seen any measure of efficiency or competence. I also believe that WHEN they come to confiscate the firearms it will be in a clumsy ill executed manner which will make things exceptionally bloody.. for them. As for Glenn, he can sod straight off. Resistance would mean the end of his little empire and he is too old, and too comfortable to give that up. He would rather turn over his guns and cry about the rest of us who are imprisoned and enslaved. I would much rather die a free man than a slave, and be remembered by my children (who I will smuggle abroad the first sign of trouble) as a man who stood up for freedom and died defending the rights of others, than some poor unfortunate jerk carted off to the federal system.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 23, 2013 at 12:51pmOh poor, poor Vance. You could have contributed something of value, but couldn’t muster the effort to do anything except sneer. How sad for you.
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Gary_K
Jan. 23, 2013 at 1:07pmSoy
That is why I am basically done with TheBlaze and TheBlaze TV…3 days of the gay muslim communist’s coronation was enough to make me gag…..Taking my time and $ elsewhere where they report real news instead of surfing the internet for cutsie fluff stories. IF I want to see a video of a (for example) basketball shot from half court or further. I will surf on my own.
Off to seek some real news…have fun with the fluff and BS stories.
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ahremanes80
Jan. 23, 2013 at 2:14pmsomeone hasn’t been taking their medication :)
when mommy comes in to change your diaper you should have her put you down for a nappy-poo too. You seem cranky.
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GhostOfJefferson
Jan. 24, 2013 at 9:02am@ahremanes80
First off you meant to say “somebody hasn’t been taking his medication”. The last I checked I’m not plural, the word “somebody” directed at me indicates a singular subject in the sentence. Please, learn the language if your intention is to mock other people.
Second, my point stands as I posted it, and there’s nothing there to indicate “crankiness”. Glenn is delegating a lot of time and effort to discrediting conspiracy theories, which require very little time to debunk, all the while advising people to bend over when the State comes to the door and tries to confiscate firearms. As Cavallo says, the motives are clear; Glenn has his comfortable empire and clearly does not profit by taking the correct stand regarding this issue. Calling him out on this is vital until he either stops the calls for submissive and suicidal behavior or he changes his recommendations.
I apologize if complex, abstract thoughts confuse you such that you attribute any statement that rises above the level of bumper sticker as somehow indicative of anger. There’s always community college if you wish to brush up on the more interesting and dynamic functions of the human mind and rhetoric.
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