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• Maximus767676

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:31pm

  First you should know that these “Smart” Meters give them the power to turn off whatever they want, when they want. They also have been known to make people sick, or act differently. Secondly a smart lawyer will get her off, as long as the neighbors back her. Third, you will notice how the installation men showed up when no one was home. Time to get a really angry junk yard dog, and put up a notice not to enter. Fourth, i have heard that even after installation, you can pay to have a someone else install the original, or similar back on. Not sure if that is legal or not. But just what i’ve heard. JENNIFER STAHL IS MY KIND OF AMERICAN! IF YOU DON’T STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS, YOU DON’T DESERVE THEM!

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:49pm

    Alex Jones Kook Alert

     

  • TH30PH1LUS

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:50pm

    Smart Meters, ObamaCare, etc – “Big Brother” will shove it down your throat whether you want it or not “for your own good”, and tell you it’s illegal to resist.

    My fellow Americans, if you wait until they are going door to door to confiscate guns to act – you’ve waited too long.

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  • valiant1776

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:03pm

    We are a bunch of pathetic cowards. Our second Amendment is there to protect our other rights, not to protect our guns. We are a nation of wusses.

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  • Uncurable wound

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:04pm

    These meters hate magnets! Make sure you DONT place a big magnet on these units,it could destroy them….Also check out carbon shielding

    Molon labe

     

  • 13th Imam

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:05pm

    Drill a hole in the meter. Fill with H2O

     

  • seek.the.truth

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:16pm

    I have been receiving notices that compare my usage to the other homes in my neighborhood. It says our usage is too high. I hadn’t even considered that a smart meter might have been installed because I thought they needed to notify the customer. Guess I was underestimating my rights.

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  • seek.the.truth

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:20pm

    Correction — OVERestimated

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  • civilwarcometh

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:25pm

    Glenn talked about this…http://sidewalkschalk.com/2012/11/21/glenn-beck-discusses-agenda-21/

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  • Walkabout

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:32pm

    “The more planning the government does the less planning an individual can do.”

    This is an example of government planning.

    “Dispute Over Line at Food Stamp Office Turns Into an All-Out Brawl”

    How much freedom do these people have if the government wrecks the economy & they have to depend on the government?

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  • ree758

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:52pm

    They have to install the smart meters communisum doesn’t work there will be shortages!

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  • rc30

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:07pm

    When are we going to work together and say enough is enough. I’m not saying to grab your guns and start some civil war. But why is it that we don’t fight this type of stuff anymore. We just say ok they say it will be better so it must be. I’m 42 and one thing I have learned in that time. If it don’t feel right or you don’t think its right most likely its not.
    As for all cops in this country your oath means nothing. You also need to make a stand also. Because one day you also will have to live in the same crap that is coming. If we don’t change and say enough we won’t know this country in a few short years.

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  • toto

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:13pm

    We declined to have a Smart Meter, two months later we got a bill that was more than double for the same period the previous year and the months before and after. Of course we fought it, and it was “fixed” without explanation. Convinced they were messing with us. Unite good people. The Smart Meter is just a tiny part of what Progressives/socialists/communists have in store to control every aspect of our lives. Most people have no idea what the Smart Meter is capable of. Total control of your energy usage, individual denial of power. It is in no way benign. Never, ever relinquish control of your lives to others, it will not turn out well.

     

  • butthedd

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:18pm

    She stood her ground like a good American, and was arrested. Three cheers for Jennifer Stahl!!!

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  • Desertcatn

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:41pm

    It’s true about them just shutting off your electricity, they installed one out on our property, the power company stopped giving any warning about shut-off. In addition, the power company shut down all customer service offices, you have to call them and go through a long menu; good luck getting to talk to anybody. Also, our electricity bill doubled without any explanation, they get away with it because people just pay the bill.

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  • missdagnytaggart

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:55pm

    Stand strong Mrs. Stahl!

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:58pm

    Why be a martyr? This isn’t the civil rights movement where you have the tide of society and the media in your favor. There will be no university hunger strikes, or long 60 minutes episode on you, the jailed. As far as the global enthusiasts and the media are concerned, going to jail for a smart meter means your an unenlightened right winger that deserves to rot there.

    Instead let them put the meter on your property. Say nothing. Then go buy 200,000 volt stun gun.
    When the stun gun is placed at the meter’s metallic base and triggered it takes about 2 seconds to turn an expensive smart meter into a pile of non-functional junk. After the meter mysteriously shorts out every month, they will go back to the old meter. If they do an investigation…consider your activities good training in subterfuge.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:15pm

    great job ranger – there is the solution

    1,000 papercuts….brilliant

     

  • deskjockey

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:25pm

    Civil Disobedience is hardly Alex Jones-esque. You really need a history lesson, Soybomb. Think Henry David Thoreau or Martin Luther King Jr. Actually let’s just start with think.

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  • duek

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:47pm

    I am a meter-tech for an electrical co-op and i suspect these particular meters are called AMR’s. Automatic Meter Reader. They are not the so-called ” smart meters ” that eco-geeks want us all to have. I am in Ohio and should not speak for Illinois but smart meters require smart houses also, no matter what state your in. No one can turn off your A\C, your appliances or anything else in your home without your home, with all its myriad of breakers and switches, being compatible to your meter. The option is there to cut your whole power but that option is quite expensive and extremely impractical. ( per unit costs ) If it is an AMR, these meters have an approximate failure rate of 5% per month causing folk like myself to go out and read them the old-fashioned way. When people ask, I merely tell them that technology isn’t all its cracked up to be.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:49pm

    what are you talking about deskjockey. Ranger had a good idea

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  • love the kids

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:57pm

    Police are supposed to serve and protect the public, not be thugs for privately owned companies.

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  • ExtremeRight

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:57pm

    Valiant,

    You are 100% right. We have no Balls, No spine nor any intestinal fortitude. That is the reason we have been enslaved and our children will suffer even more. Now or never boys.. Now or never… RISE ! RESIST ! REVOLT ! FREEDOM !

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  • murphdog

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 9:06pm

    You left one out. Buy and install your own wind and solar power and pray they don’t charge for wind like the Canadian Government is thinking of doing. There’s that Socialist movement again.

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  • eagledown

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 9:14pm

    @RANGER1965 Dude, your a living MacGyver, that’s awesome!! Will be reporting for duty if sh** hits the fan. Vietnam I presume? Army Ranger?, may need your (keep this cryptic) lets say, diabolical field experience the way things are going. Hooah!!

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  • zman173rd

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 9:42pm

    @ Ranger P: “Instead let them put the meter on your property. Say nothing. Then go buy 200,000 volt stun gun.” It only works if EVERYONE does it. The problem is there are many progressive/democrats etc that freely give their lives to the collective. An example is the new phones that will allow you to turn off your furnace “remotely” in case you left in on while away from your home. I see the ads on TV all the time. Who is stupis enough to ASSume the gov’t won’t control that?
    Divided we fall. And I’m guessing the bottom is rushing up to meet us so we won’t know when we hit it. In other words we don’t have that far to fall.

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  • LogCabinRepublican

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:00pm

    There has to be some attorney out there reading this that is willing to help this single mom defend herself against this corrupt city and represent her free of charge. Come on Freedomworks HELP HER if you haven’t already stepped up.

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  • valiant1776

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:00pm

    @ExtremeRight Take heed:

    North Carolina Police Lieutenant Warns of Gun Confiscation

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISATXfAUxjc

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:09pm

    @DeskJockey: History shows that civil disobedience does work if there is some spine behind it. In fact it works almost too well. The danger isn’t that it won’t work, but that the movement escalates into open warfare and total rebellion. If the media and the majority of the people are NOT behind your actions, in fact actively oppose what you’re doing, then being a martyr is not only useless, it’s self destructive.

    @Eagledown; Yes Army Ranger 3/75th. Vietnam was long before my time however.

    @ZMAN: If everyone does it, it will be much more effective, but these kind of things always start with just a few pissed off people, and then grow. It might be too little too late but I believe your analysis of the Left is bad intel.
    I could be wrong but what I see is cowards, a multitude of them. Fair weather pansys that talk an unbelievable amount of crap, but would fold like an accordian if they had to stand up to…or for anything. That’s the overwhelming majority of the left. If truly tough times come the entire movement is over. Deep down where it counts most of these guys know this brave new world they are building is a fantasy. It won’t stand up to a breeze, much less a storm. As far as I’m concerned they are all polishing brass on the Titanic.

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:13pm

    I installed these meters and I’m also an electrician. Deuk nailed it. Everyone needs to calm down and realize this is just technology saving time and money. These meters do not give the utility the ability to control ANYTHING inside your house. They also don’t give the utility any more information than they previously had. Remember that the whole purpose of a meter is to measure the amount of electricity you have used so they already know your usage. This is the only thing both meters do. The only difference is one has the ability to be read remotely and one doesn’t. Also remember that this is the utilities meter and you are using the utilities power. You are choosing to use their service and when you do you are subject to their terms. These meters are, as deuk stated, AMR meters that can be remotely read by a truck that can simply drive down the road once a month instead of a meter reader getting out at every house and reading them manually. Driving down a road at 35 mph logging meter readings straight into a laptop reduces many expenses for the utility which will not need to be passed down to us, the consumer. Man hours and a smaller fleet of vehicles are the biggest. Listen I’m as conservative as one can get but you are utilizing a service from a provider. If the provider wishes to change the meter in which they calculate your usage your only option is to go along with it or switch to an alternative means of power. I see no reason as of now to be concern

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  • welovetheUSA

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:45pm

    Refuse the service…..altogether…or move out of that state.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:45pm

    Your missing the point Naggs. It doesn’t matter if it’s a simple time/money saving tool, or the ultimate expression of power. It was HER! property. For whatever reason, bad, good, or indifferent she decided she didn’t want a smart meter. It was her decision as a property owner.

    The proper and right response by the Utility company would have been to tell her that if she didn’t get the “smart” meter, then their company wouldn’t supply her power, no exceptions. It’s their company and they have rights as well. Then the ball is back in her court, and she can make a decision.

    The WRONG! AND CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGAL THING TO DO! would be to invade her property over her lawful protests, destroy her backyard lock, and when she wouldn’t get out of their way, ON HER PROPERTY!! have the police ARREST her. I know this is minor to some of you, but to me…these are the incidents that flare up into violent rebellion. Utter disregard for her rights as a citizen and property owner, by a police force that has NO RESPECT for the citizenry. This type of elitism is a hateful, and spiteful thing that always results in blood.

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:53pm

    As for the comment of drilling a hole in it and filling it with water. I really, really hope no one will try this. I think everyone knows what happens with water and electric. It wont turn out good for you or your house.

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:54pm

    If you really think ruining the meter will work just remember that what goes up comes back down. A utility will not lose money. YOU WILL.

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  • candymanal

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:56pm

    But you don’t undersatnd the whole picture.
    These intellectual’s know what’s good for us, so don’t argue. Just sit down and shut up.
    Remember, they call the NRA, a lobby group.
    Since when, do we need a lobby group, to protect the very rights, granted us, under the bill of rights?
    OBama and his fascist underlings, will do whatever they want, whenever they want.
    You ain’t got no rights … period.

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  • SendTheMeteors

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:57pm

    valiant1776, every the valiant one, says, “We are a bunch of pathetic cowards. Our second Amendment is there to protect our other rights…”

    So Valiant, what are you suggesting a person do when the City comes to install one of these smart meters at their house? Can you be a little more clear about that? In your totally macho view, as a real man with big cojones, what are you going to do when the City tries to put one these on YOUR house? Whatcha going to do? Take a stand for Freedom? And, in the meantime, what do you recommend others do?

    Your city already monitors your electrical usage (duh, that how they bill you) and the city can already cut off your electricity, although I’d like to hear a single example of that happening. Unless you didn’t pay your bill. Hate to tell you this, but your cell phone use is monitored real time, as well as your internet use. While your at it take a stand against those things too just to be consistent.

    Somebody said these smart meters cause people to “act differently” or “make them sick.” I can see from the posts here that even reading about these meters can make people “act differently.”

     

  • Silvertruth

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:36pm

    I have one of these meters and I actually enjoy reading the reports on line to see where my power is used. I specifically signed a contract with the Power Company stating that they do NOT have the authority to reduce my power at any time only turn it off for lack of payment to them.

    You do have an option to get rid of the smart meter: tell the power company to come pick up their meter and turn off their power. You can generate your own power in many ways. Neighborhoods can create their own power companies, with their own generator facilities. You can purchase a natural gas powered generator to power your home, or if in more rural areas, run more powerful generators.

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:38pm

    Ranger, I agree with you that I do not like someone getting arrested on their own property. The problem is, when you agree to electrical service you also agree to give the utility the legal right to access your property to maintain or upgrade their equipment. Technology has come out to make their system more efficient so they went to upgrade their system which they have a legal right to do. Remember that every month they come around to read the meter. They utilized their right to have access to this meter every month.
    Instead of being arrested she should have allowed them to install the new meter without getting herself arrested. Then she could have called the utility and asked that they remove the meter immediately even if it results in the loss of her power. They would have come back out, removed the meter and left her powerless without the meter.
    I just think we are acting like liberals on this issue. We are demanding that a company supply us with something. That’s not the way it works, you do not get to decide what kind of meter the utility uses to measure your electrical usage. If you don’t want to grant access to the utility that’s fine. Don’t order their service.
    In the end she signed the agreement and then she didn’t want to abide by it.

    We all knew this technology was coming. Just think how much money is spent sending a meter reader to every house in the country every single month. I wouldn’t want to see the bill that comes with doing t

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:47pm

    Ranger, It would be like granting someone a right of way through your property and then when they came with the back hoe you laying down in the middle of it. You signed over your rights to someone else to access that part of your property. They will show that they have a legal right to it and have you removed, by force if necessary. It was an agreement made freely by two parties.

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  • Maji

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:58pm

    Uhh My Question is how is it the power company’s property???
    Most Southern states;
    The meter base is mine (I pay for it and installation) along with all
    the materials wire,diconnect,mask and as I said installation.

    So other than the actual meter which the guy was holding in his hand is company’s

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  • taintso

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:00am

    Kinda like our smart vote counting, that we let Spain do, welcome to socialism.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:03am

    @Naggs,

    Negative. The power companies response to “I don’t want your smart meter”… isn’t to cut locks and have people arrested on their own property.”

    The response is this: “Mam, if you don’t want the smart meter we can’t supply you with power. If she still says no, then turn her meter off and call in to have power cut. End of Story. The company’s rights to monitor power in a cost saving way is preserved.
    The right’s of the property owner is preserved. Everyone’s happy.

    And the little story above isn’t just what should have happened. It’s what the CONSTITUTION says should happen. If it were me, the police and the power company would have paid for this and paid the price for years to come. And if someone were to put a sign or meter in my yard AGAINST my wishes, I would warn them not too once. If they persisted and called the police, I wouldn’t say another word. I would be the soul of cooperation, and I wouldn’t go to jail.

    But over the next few months both the power company and the police would rue that day. They wouldn’t know why bad things kept happening to them. They wouldn’t know why their budgets were busted, but pay they would. And yes, I would get away with it.

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  • lowerclassrepublican

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:15am

    No she won’t get off! she may not know it but she or her other signed a agreement with the electric company that aloud them access to the meter. She is what we on the left would call a idiot! She can keep them from installing the new meter, but that would leave her with no power to her house. All other arguments on this are stupid. I am sure the libs are recording all these commits and laughing at us.

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  • sillyfreshness

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:20am

    What do you expect for Illinois? I’d get out of that state sooooooo fast all you would see are tire burn marks.

    “The city has always had and maintains the right to access our equipment” so the city owns those meters? I thought the electric company owned the meters. That’s new to me that the city owns the electric company. I thought the electric company was either a private/public company or coop.

    What’s more about this whole meter scam is if you wanted to put your own generator on your house to make your own electricity, the city would tell you “oh no, you HAVE to buy your electricity from company X.” The US used to be all about individualism, but now it’s about corporatism. Big corporatism. The government will actually make laws that forces you to be a consumer and forces you to buy your utilities from some corporation. It’s called corruption. Places like New Zealand and Australia actually encourage their citizens to be self sufficient with rainwater collectors, solar power collectors, wind generators. Not in the US. You have that stuff that takes you “off the grid” and you get labeled a terrorist. They will force you to be dependent on some big corporation. Corruption, plain and simple.

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  • DarkJello

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:24am

    This is not a battle worth fighting. Focus on the low-hanging, large fruit.

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  • DarkJello

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:29am

    This is not a battle worth fighting. Focus on the low-hanging, large fruit.

    @”classless”

    Many interesting points here, but you refuted them all… somehow… in your mind.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:40am

    @DARKJELLO

    Jedi are not to be underestimated.

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  • The Giver

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:44am

    We refused to install the smart meter and the electric company offered an op- out because of all the controversy at the town hall meetings over it. Theses meters that were going to be installed were not just the type that can be read from the road to make it easy and cheaper. These were smart meters that send your info frequently ( several times an hour?) and is bounced over the whole neighborhood’s houses till it reaches the company. Very invasive as to your real time usage. We opted out and have to pay an additional $ 12/mo to keep the old meter. I live in the communist state of Maine, so don’t think all people who oppose this are right wingers. This is something many on the left here opposed too. Some towns didn’t fight it as hard and had to do it. This is something where right and left can unite.

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  • Obama_In_PeePee_Is_Becks_Art

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:46am

    “The police — including the police supervisor, a sergeant — were called. Stahl said the sergeant explained the workers had authorization to access the meter, but Stahl stood her ground saying she didn’t approve it. The sergeant continued to try and convince Stahl to comply and said if she didn’t, he’d arrest her.”

    So-o-o-o, how’s that whole “Police (standing army) Department” thing working out for everyone? America’s Founders knew what they were talking about (they had it, too) when they warned us of it, eh?

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  • michaelmoron

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:56am

    A Bunch of neighbors should group together to buy an empty lot in their neighborhood and install a MASSIVE GENERATOR. They could all split the cost of fuel to run it. I am sure this would be cheaper than the Monopolized system we have now.

    Also, enteprenuers could do this as a small business.

    Our local power company charges every customer about 5 dollars a month for a facility they MAY or MAY NOT build in 2017 or beyond.

    Paying more per kilowatt of power after 1000, is a FINE IMPOSED for using TOO MUCH ENERGY.
    This is a U.N. Initiative. They believe americans use too much energy and are spoiled.
    THEY attempt to RATION OUR ENERGY USE by imposing FINES.

    If they had it their way 100%, Americans would only be allowed to use 1000 kilowatts per month.

    These bureaucrats have legalized their CRIMES.

    The reason this woman can’t keep these criminals off her property is because she is a actually a tenant of the State (a Private Corporation).

    Look on your “DEED”. It says in the fine print your are just a tenant. That is why you pay property tax.
    It is just rent paid to your landlord. The State can call it what it wants.

    The politicians can call themselves what they want. I call Them CRIMINALS !!!!!

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  • Thatsitivehadenough

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:58am

    If the installer can jump the fence to install it, I’d charge him with trespassing. Everyone should put up NO TRESPASSING signs. Then take a double barrel shotgun and shoot the meter.

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  • debrarae

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:02am

    You’re correct. It makes me livid that they know these ‘smart meters’ are proven health risks for young children … yet they’re still installing them.

    I bet neither the White house, or any of the Governor’s mansions have ‘those’ meters.

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  • myrwo6

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:07am

    I agree with everything except for the dog part. I love dogs and in a case like that, I don’t think the cops would hesitate to shoot the dog.

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  • michaelmoron

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:11am

    In addition to Neighborhoods having private or co-op micro-power companies to end the monopoly perpertarted by the International Bankster Cartel, we could aslo tell the EPA, USDA, FDA, and Dept of Agriculture to F#@k off and install Micro-FARMS to grow NON-GMO Fruits and Vegetables.
    Some could aslo support cows for milk and Chickens for eggs.
    TIME SHRINK the OVER BLOATED FEDERAL and STATE GOVERNMENTS down to about 10% of what it is !!!
    QUIT THE U.N. !!!!!
    END the FEDERAL RESERVE PRIVATE BANK MONEY MONOPOLY !!!!!
    BRING BACK SILVER AND GOLD COIN ONLY !!!!! (Actually, other metals incuding titanium and platinum could be utilized.)

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  • myrwo6

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:11am

    valiant; Takes one to know one. Wuss!

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  • michaelmoron

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:22am

    *Perpetrated

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  • WATER-THE-TREE

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 2:52am

    A twelve pound sledge hammer can fix that meter right up !

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  • antiprogressive

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 3:51am

    ok
    2 types of meters – we are talking the NON smart meter here – at least the story appears to be.
    The smart meter is a whole other animal, and as mentioned, you have to buy appliances to MATCH to use it. Just wait – they will be the only thing available in stores in a few more years – like low flush toilets.

    But TILL then,

    PHYSICAL damage to the meters – smashed or tiny drilled holes – will result in the cost of a new one being added to your next bill – if they even continue to ALLOW you power at all.
    not the best choice.
    And pouring water on/near 240 volts is something you may want to think TWICE about…

    And ANY damage that results in the meter not working properly may result in immediate power loss at the same time. I suggest April and May when you are least likely to need Heat/A/C.
    It may be a WHILE before you have it back – or your TV/microwave/etc.

    Uncurable Wound has it right.
    Large magnets – Neodymium are the strongest – would be best if this is really an issue to you.

    Also old school tape degaussers – now a bit hard to find but still available – are also VERY good at erasing magnetic disks and jacking up electrical signals – yet safe to use.

    But again, be prepared for NO POWER if you are successful – and plan ahead.

    I’m more concerned about the SMART meter personally.
    But until I have no options other than a $3000 Smart Refrigerator, I’m not gonna fret about it.

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  • old white guy

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 7:09am

    home of the free, i don’t think so. home of the sheep would be more like it.

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  • Perspective

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 7:35am

    Glad you understand the real reason for smart meters. It’s so they can shut off your power remotely at will. If you have a smart meter don’t be surprised on peak overall usage days if your power gets shut off. Piss off the govt.,don’t be surprised if your power gets shut off. Trying to defend your home from tyranny,don’t be surprised when your power gets shut off.Late on your bill due to Obama’s necessary skyrocketing of electricity prices….well,you get the idea.

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  • 000degrees

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 8:05am

    Another point to consider…In some locations your concealed carry permit will be suspended for certain “violations”…..is this one of them? Kind of put law abiding citizens in a catch 22 does it not? Slowly they come for bits and pieces of your liberty and all of a sudden….it’s gone.

    Remain vigilant Semper Fi

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  • Wilsonwolfpack

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 8:14am

    When the smart meter was installed at our house,we had no idea what it was,neither the installer. I think it’s getting bad when these policies turn our few good cops we have left, into blind nazis. “Just following orders” “Don’t record us,or I’ll arrest you”. Some folks need to ask some older “German Jews” how it all started. How easily we forget.

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  • ThemDemsLie2much

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:02am

    Don’t understand how this is not a civil matter. The Cop should have told the utility company to settle it in court. That Cop had no business violating her rights without a proper search warrant.
    This is the Socialist tacktics of the Obama obotts. You have no private property anymore. Only Government has such. Next you’ll be charged a fine for staying in the shower to long or doing laundry at the wrong time of the day.

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  • battles

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:14am

    Wrapping a thick layer of tinfoil around the meter might block the signal, possibly even with a small hole to see the meter dials. The suggestion above of drilling a hole in the meter to inject water is a definite no no.

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  • ArchaicSEAL

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:15am

    @ SOYBOMB, You and people like you are serious morons right alongside the liberals in this country. Why is ANYONE who WANTS PRIVACY or DOES NOT want to give CONTROL TO ANY FORM OF CENTRALIZED GOVERNMENT suddenly being labeled in a negative way? That is a play RIGHT OUT OF THE PROGRESSIVE PLAYBOOK. All the guy said was that he doesn’t want usage data collected on him and used against him in the future (carbon taxes perhaps.) Moreover, he doesn’t want to run any risks of smartware allowing ANYONE to limit and/or shut off his power based on usage. He also feels that the meters could pose a risk to his health. HE BELIEVES THESE THINGS. They are HIS OPINION. And for that you label him in such a way right off the bat?

    You, sir, are not part of the solution. You are part of the problem. Just like all of the ********, progressives and outright morons (such as yourself) out there calling themselves “American.”

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  • Miljunk

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:31am

    Correct, it gives them/someone the power to turn off appliances at their discretion. The way it is being sold to the public would have us believe it is for balancing out the power grid so as to avoid peak usage, brown outs and the like.

    However there was another poster from Ohio who is a utility worker and he is correct in saying in order for the Smart Meters to work Smart Houses are required. I shouldn’t say work…in order for their capabilities to be fully utilized they would have to be installed on Smart Houses. However, I don’t think the lack of Smart Houses prevents the Installation of Smart Meters. Not too sure about that part though. It would be interesting to see or find out when companies are going to start making Smart Appliances and “only” providing those to consumers?

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  • texastommy

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:47am

    @soybean.

    Thanks for the kook alert to announce your presence.

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  • Faith in God

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:27am

    I told my dad, over 7 years ago that there was only one way that people would give up gun rights. to keep the electricity on in winter to keep their kids warm..

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  • jorge_washington

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:33am

    “These meters hate magnets! Make sure you DONT place a big magnet on these units,it could destroy them….Also check out carbon shielding

    Molon labe”

    Or you could just go find a cop and slug him in the head from behind. Either way, both are a sure ways of getting arrested, fined and having a criminal record.

    Keep having Beck feed your paranoia. It will be a costly lesson.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:44am

    I think the main point is being missed.

    It doesn’t matter whether the smart meter is a great way for the utility company to do their jobs remotely, and save you money….or if they are the next harbinger of government control. That is for you, a free American to decide. If you own your property it is for you to decide what goes into it, and what stays out. It is for you to decide who is allowed on your property, and who isn’t.

    Those of you spouting about right-of-ways by utility companies built into your property agreements are also missing the point.

    The woman didn’t want a smart meter on her property.
    The proper response by the utility company would have been to tell her that without the smart meter the untility company would not provide her power.
    The woman could then decide.

    The above is a constitutionally fair situation. What actually occured was unconstitutional. Some of you need to understand that. Constitutional property rights override, and exceed any federal, state, or county mandates. Just because no one has the money to challenge it all the way to the supreme court doesn’t mean that it isn’t true.

    Whether she is right or wrong about the smart meter is not important. What happened was evil, and she needs to be avenged. The local police and the utility company need to be taught a lesson. And that’s a fact.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:49am

    @Jorge

    What will be a costlier lesson is taking your advice.

    “When the government fears the people there is liberty. When people fear the goverment there is tyranny.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

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  • jinxycat

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:52am

    @Sillyfreshness – The point is that we don’t HAVE a choice of what company to get power from. Here in our city in Illinois we have one choice, so not really a choice is it? Our garbage company? – we can’t pick them either. The city bids it out and decides. This last time our city contract was up city hall sent out a letter to all the residents to “ask” which company to use. They included in this a request from our usual garbage service worker a plea to continue with him, because we all like him so much and he’s nice, does a good job and we don’t really want to have to get used to another driver right? That was their official notification…oh did i forget to mention their bid was the highest by quite a bit, but yup, that’s the company the picked. I can’t stand Illinois.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:57am

    Here are a few ideas. Research this on the internet.

    (1) Attacking a smart meter’s memory-through hardware – If a smart meter hasn’t been built with protective features, inserting a needle on each side of the device’s memory chip can do the trick. The needle intercepts the electrical signals in the memory chip. From these signals, a device’s programming can be determined. If security features are in place, it is still possible to obtain the data through customized tools.

    2) Using a digital radio – The two-way radio chip in a smart meter allows the device to be read remotely and receive commands over the network. A hacker, who has cracked the meter’s programming, can use security codes from the software in the chip to get on the network and issue commands.

    3) Accessing the meter – Another method of hacking the smart meter is through a wireless device. Using a software radio programmed to mimic a variety of communication devices, a hacker can listen in on wireless communications in the network and guess over time how to communicate with the meter. Another method is to steal a meter and reverse-engineer it; although inexpensive, the process would require a good knowledge of integrated circuits.

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  • Pirate_Jim

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 10:57am

    You could build a steel box around the meter (without touching it). Make sure the steel a plate covers the back wall behind it.

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  • jorge_washington

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:03am

    “First you should know that these “Smart” Meters give them the power to turn off whatever they want, when they want. They also have been known to make people sick, or act differently. ”

    First you should know is that you have been lied too and have been made a fool of.

    Smart meters provide live current information about your power usage. In the past this was done once a month when the guy went to read your meter. With this live up to date info you can log into you local utility company and view how much electricity you are using on a daily basis.

    A smart meter can not turn off power to any device in your home. The only way to turn off power is to go and manually turn off the breaker, light switch or unplug an item from the wall. A smart meter can be wired or wireless. No more dangerous then your wireless network, phone or cell phone. Except a smart meter is located on the outside of your home.

    Keep having Beck feed your paranoia. It will be a costly lesson.

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  • mecanic

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:06am

    @soybomb315_II…..so standing up for your rights makes you an ” Alex Jones Kook Alert ” ? your post makes you sound like an idiot.

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  • bkf

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:08am

    If she doesn’t want a “smart” meter why on earth would she want a “smart” lawyer…those are much less reliable than meters.

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  • sndrman

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:20am

    Valiant:
    to a point i do agree with you,we have elected officals who are suppose to give us a voice(called the republican party) unfortunately that voice has been silenced by the msm,and themselves………..sure we see our rights being taken away i right at a time……….we need to somehow band together……….sure the TEA PARTY was/is a factor but our own so called party(republican) shut the TEA PARTY down and took them from positions of true leadership………..the Revolutionary war was started by a shot heard around the world………(not condoning violence),so we that metaphorical shot heard around the world that one action/law that stirs people into action…..where is JOHN GAAL?

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:22am

    @ Jorge,

    Who cares if Smart Meters are good, bad, or indifferent? The only question is; do you personally want one?

    If so, then there is no conflict.
    If you own your property and don’t want a smart meter, (for whatever reason, fair or foul), then you should be able to tell the utility company to take a hike. The company may turn off your power which is their right, but that’s your choice. It’s your property, your life.

    When the utility company or the police walk over you, your property, and your life, then what they are doing is unconstitutional. And they should be punished for this. If the state refuses to give justice, then it is your right and duty as an American to insure that Justice is done.

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  • Techcon

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:30am

    First came those satanic, new fangled ATM machine thingies that put all them tellers out of a job, and now these SMART (so-called) meters are going to put lowly meter readers on the unemployment line.

    WHERE ARE THE UNIONS? WHERE’S ANTI-TECH OBUMMER?

    NO JUSTICE! NO PEAS!

    “City equipment”? Seriously? Uh, where does the city gets ITS money to BUY that equipment? The taxpayer…the citizens of the city…the home owner getting ARRESTED!

    WE OWN THE CITY AND ITS DAMN EQUIPMENT–PERIOD!

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  • redfish52

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:41am

    Her biggest mistake was being a white woman. If she had been black or Hispanic they would have given her a check to install the meter and then pay the bill for her.

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  • irishfan09

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:07pm

    I work for a power company in Ca. with us you are given an opt out so you can keep your old meter but you must pay a monthly fee to have your meter read. Yes they come and install your new meter when you are not home. What do you expect them to do what till you get home? Why is she afraid of a smart meter unless she has something to hide. If I was growing I would not want a smart meter. All the BS you hear about the meter is what it is BS.

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  • jorge_washington

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:14pm

    “Who cares if Smart Meters are good, bad, or indifferent?”

    It matters to anyone who is interested in facts and truth; not paranoia or hate mouthed by multi-millionaires to fill people’s heads with fear.

    “The only question is; do you personally want one?”

    It is not a question of personal choice. The only choice you have is such a matter is to refuse electrical power to your home. While you’re at it, might as well disconnect the water. Obviously community living is not for you since you are so susceptible to fear-mongering. You should look to homesteading; plenty of room there for all your paranoia’s.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:19pm

    @Jorge

    You see, when pressed even you have to agree that it is a matter of personal choice.

    Sure she may have to get her power cut off, sure you think anyone that isn’t as enlighted as you about smart meters, and the world in general, is a right winged Cromagnum, conspiracy theorist, but at least she CAN choose. IT”S HER PROPERTY.

    But you see that didn’t occur here. The State chose for her. They walked all over her rights as a citizen of this nation, and as a property owner. Regardless of Utility right of ways and other such municipal garbage, what they did is unconstitutional. It was wrong. If the State refuses to address this injustice, then the Utility company and the police will need to be taught this in a painful way.

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  • BlueEmpire

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:37pm

    Funny how the cops did this to a woman with no man in the house. I bet they would have tread a little more lightly. Then again, it is Illinois, they know they probably don’t have a gun. I mean at what point is enough enough and you have to stick the business end of a Model 870 in someone’s face, including but not limited to police?

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  • onlylogic

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:40pm

    People getting sick or acting strange because of smart meters installed on their homes is crazy talk.
    They are no different from a cordless or cellular phone in yours or your neighbors house. The power company could always read your meter whenever they wanted, that’s how you get your power bill. They can also turn your power off at the street or the pole whenever they want, they don’t need to pull your meter. A smart meter just lets them be cheap and not pay for a meter reader. But I do agree if you don’t want a smart meter on your home you should be able to opt out by paying a small fee to have someone come out to read your meter. Likewise if you do get a smart meter installed you should get a small credit for the money you are saving them by not having to send a meter reader out.

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  • OnSheepdogs

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:48pm

    I have some serious search and seizure issues with the cops arresting this woman. First, this seems to be a civil issue between Stahl and the power company/city. She has a right to be secure in her person and property. She especially exercised this constitutional right both physically (chaining the gate/no trespassing signs) and verbally (refusing them access to her property). A law enforcement officer cannot force a citizen to give up their rights…especially to another private citizen. Now, if the power company/town had a court order specifically naming her in the suit, that may be another story. Even then, it would be a civil court order, one which a law enforcement officer could not enforce with a criminal arrest.

    Personally, I believe this officer violated her fourth amendment rights. This as a trumped up charge of resisting a police officer. An officer cannot arrest someone, for refusing not to give up their rights. If I was this guy’s Lt. his lack of knowledge regarding search and seizure would be reflected in his eval.

    Not only will she get off, but she probably has a decent law suit for the violation of her rights. IMHO.

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  • SimpleTruths

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:49pm

    DEBRARAE
    Proven health risks for children? Please provide that ‘proof’.

    Sounds like your FOR regulation, I thought that was not the case. hmmm

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  • bicyclemilitia

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 1:57pm

    Well said!

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  • cantstandlibs

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 2:04pm

    hey soybreath, why don’t you just f.o.

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  • desertspeaks

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 2:34pm

    Needs to post a PRIVATE PROPERTY, NO TRESPASSING! sign on the front and back gates, THEN post a notice next to the electric meter, ATTENTION, removal of this meter and replacing it with a smart meter will only be allowed by the payment of 1000 ounces of .9999 fine gold or 5,300 ounces of .9999 fine silver. By installing a new smart meter, you as the electric companies representative agree to this contract and payment is due upon demand!
    search your states UCC for the correct statutory and obligatory contractual wording.
    If they are going to trample on your private property rights, MAKE THEM PAY FOR DOING SO!!!!

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  • jdare

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 2:45pm

    You don’t know what you’re talking about. They don’t make you sick and you can’t turn off what you want, when you want. They also allow your meter to be read without workers having to come on your property. They allow the power to be turned on and off remotely instead of a worker showing up. This gives much faster service when you are moving and lowers the cost.
    If I were you, I would worry more about Obama trying to bankrupt 40% or the current power supply produced by coal and at the same time attempting to move automotive power to the electric grid instead of the gas pump. This only adds up to 1 thing, “skyrocketing energy costs”. Think about it.

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  • williemcd

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 3:10pm

    To address the two individuals that state they are electricians or installers of Smart Meters and the fact that the power company cannot control usage beyond a On Off option.
    Two Issues with your support:
    1. It’s my understanding that SM emit a pulsating signal periodicity that has been proven to be a health hazard to inhabitants.
    2. With the number of home invasions….some appearing as utility workers, the plan at my home is to shoot first, ask questions later.

    Is any of this getting through to you?

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  • James

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 3:11pm

    Check with your local codes. I believe if you don’t receive or have electric you may not be allowed to occupy the premise. I believe that is how it is where I live.

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  • RANGER1965

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 3:37pm

    @James,

    Alright, I’ll play…if a municipality makes such a code/rule then it’s unconstitutional. It might not have been challenged but if it were challenged it would eventually be deemed unconstitutional.

    Now I realize that most people want electricity in their homes, and burning oil lamps for light is dangerous, but the issue is not about who is smarter, or more enlightened regarding their living habits.
    The issue is about freedom of choice, and whether its an electric company, local police, or municipal codes telling me and you that (in this case) you don’t have that freedom of choice; well they’re wrong. It’s just that simple. The Constitution trumps your local mayor. Just because the battle hasn’t been fought in a court of law yet, doesn’t make it right.
    As for me, I’m not going to jail or be a martyr for the state. I’ll handle these type of injustices in my own (more effective) way.

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  • jhrusky

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 3:57pm

    @ silvertruth

    “I have one of these meters and I actually enjoy reading the reports on line to see where my power is used”

    I am not following something here … @duek stated: “but smart meters require smart houses also, no matter what state your in. No one can turn off your A\C, your appliances or anything else in your home without your home, with all its myriad of breakers and switches, being compatible to your meter.”

    OK … so if they cannot turn something on/off, can they still tell what is running? I’ve read somewhere that based upon vibrations and frequencies, that it MIGHT be possible to even hear what is being spoken in a home with these meters. I know that may sound crazy, but so does making a ‘star trek like tractor beam’. Where there is a will, there is a way.

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  • val_d

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 4:08pm

    Alex Jones is my hero…he stood up to the kook Piers Morgan, who is not welcomed by the public in his own country. He needs to GTFO of our country and quit making ridiculous statements and idiotic arguments that are fitting to HIS AGENDA, and he doesn’t even belong here! He bends, shapes, and manipulates every argument like a child or teenager does. He does not interview fairly. I wonder if Pierce Morgan is protected by armed security–because he really needs to be at this point in his life.

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  • Pergolesi

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 4:27pm

    Duh! the power company can turn off the power anyway. Like if you don’t pay your bill. Has nothing to do with the ‘smart meter.’ This debate is bringing out the weevils from the woodwork.

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  • jhrusky

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 5:03pm

    @ pergolesi

    “the power company can turn off the power anyway. Like if you don’t pay your bill. Has nothing to do with the ‘smart meter.’ This debate is bringing out the weevils from the woodwork.”

    I think you are misunderstanding. Anyone who has read up on the controversy on these so-called ‘smart-meters’ knows there MAY be issues that are yet unknown. The hacker community claims they can hack in and these meters have all sorts of “surveillance” capabilities. I do not know if that is true or not, but I also wouldn’t put it past ‘big brother’ to be involved, and any thinking person knows that the utility companies will do big brother’s bidding as it’s their demise if they do not.

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  • shandog

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 5:50pm

    No they don’t. You need to really learn what you are talking about. My husband worked for a company that builds the meters..he helped design the technology that makes them run. You sir are an idiot. So can you tell me the difference in frequencies for microwaves, RF waves, and variable frequencies..no, I thought not. Quit talking about stuff of which you have no clue! This is a conspiracy theory at it’s highest level and displays the ignorance of those who believe it.

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  • shandog

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 5:52pm

    Desertecatn- they can do that with existing meters…duh…

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  • Freelyn

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 6:31pm

    So let me understand, these “Smart” meters are supposed to track usage and allow people to save money by using energy at off peak times. Something electric companies have been trying to get people to do for years and failing because people want electric when they want electric. They have been deployed worldwide and found to not save any money, in fact they do the opposite, the cost millions to install and there are no energy savings to the customers just extra costs on their bill

    Why does this all strike me like every other “Green – read Red” energy project that has been going on for the last decade? This is all about more control and spending our hard earned dollars on someone’s dream of alternative energy. We’ve wasted Billions on solar and wind energy which are not cost effective ways to generate electric and now we are spending money on smart meters will remote kill switches.

    These remote kill switches couldn’t be abused by say someone who decides that anyone on a certain list shouldn’t receive power any more. Nope, that’s just crazy talk this is all just so that someone doesn’t need to come to your house to disconnect your electric if you don’t pay your bill or move.

    WOW! I have zero problem with remote meter reading so my meter reads are actual each month but these Smart Meters are for the birds. Just the cost alone should be enough to tell you they make NO sense!

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  • Walkabout

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 7:18pm

    seek.the.truth

    “I have been receiving notices that compare my usage to the other homes in my neighborhood. It says our usage is too high.”

    That is a scary statement.

    A person’s footprint should not matter if they are paying their bills. A person might use more electricity but less gas. It should be no one’s business.

    I was following a development of stirling engines being used for solar power. The concept was being developed by ideal labs in California. Their concept was to make an 6′ by 8′ array of stirling engines to power a house. I think form the specs 2 arrays would be needed.

    Keep pushing & there won’t be as great of need for “public utilities. Which means the politicians & activists will have less power.

    Use solar (active & passive for) for energy & heat. Use geothermal also. Then go tell Washington & others to F___ OFF!

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  • Sister_Mary

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 7:49pm

    Yea – kook alert .. “But EcoFactor, a startup in the Silicon Valley suburb of Redwood City, aims to take things even further by gathering data about the weather, as well as consumers’ individual climate-control habits, “TO ADJUST” a home’s air-conditioning and heating systems.”

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  • petey

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 8:27pm

    Silver Spring and Al Gore.

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  • sheila0405

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 8:35pm

    You have to have appliances with smart technology in order for the smart meter to turn any off. As to getting an angry junk yard dog, or other attempt to block the electric company from access to its own property, I’m certain an owner would face criminal charges for that. There is an opt-out, so I can’t see why these folks are so riled up. They are probably already exposed to RF from their microwaves and cell phones. I did some online research about smart meters. I doubt those up in arms did. They relied on hysterical “information” from those who think the way they do.

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  • Cherilyn

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 8:50pm

    this is wrong now I know why I hate cops…smart meter isn’t smart at all huh???…I might get in trouble for saying this but she should have gotten a gun if she had it and shot at the pigs saying get off my property you pigs..isn’t this the land of the free???????….guess not I guess the national anthem needs to be rewritten land of the not so free and the home of the cowards huh????..this comment isn’t violating your policy this is what she should have done in my opinion

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  • Quester55

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:10pm

    When will it sink in People, Thanks to Obama & his Little Book of P/O’S, We No longer Have any Property Rights!
    For the longest times in the Country, Those Power Meters where Located on Power Poles, Near the Streets, Where a Meter reader could read them without Getting Mauled by the Farmers Watch dogs while he was out in the Fields. Next they Moved the things to the Front of the Home nearest to the Roads or Streets, Then They Slowly where moved next to the houses Side or Back door closes to the main Power Control(FUSE)Box. 7 believe you, Me, There were many a POWER Meter Reader, in my day that Got His Tail Peppered with Rock Salt, When that Meter Reader was Caught Peeping into Windows!
    now a days, These Power Companies have Gotten out of Hand, Those New Meters JUST DO NOT WORK All of the time & In the case of some, They’ll never work! Strange what an Electric Magnet can Do to one of those,” Fool proof,” Boxes, Problem is The Power Drones can never find a Fool when they need one! EVEN a Kids Simple Walkie-Talki can Cause them (RADIO METERS) to go Nuts.Mine has been Replaced 4 times in 2 years, the Reader seems to think that it has Something to do with Lightning Strikes, Could Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

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  • htMac

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:25pm

    @soybomb315_II -u b a$$h01e

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  • One_of_many

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:40pm

    I wished everyone could send her 50 cent or a dollar for being able to confront the tyrants head on; She has put herself out there and deserves our support! How could we do this?

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  • robertgsr44

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:22pm

    This is just a general reply to the original article and not directed toward Maximus767676. (Am new to this electronic computer posting stuff)Just another good reason to pack up and head to the country side off grid. This isn’t always possible or easy financially so in that case go off grid in town!! have a natural gas generator system installed(if gas is available) or if you can, do a whole house solar system for about $25,000 and sell the excess electric to THEM. let them pay us for once. I have thought about just having a 12 volt system run for lighting and the refrigerator and try to do solar hot water but haven’t got that part figured out totally yet. Of course if you don’t pay your smart meter, what happens? Yep. they come shut you off. Buy a lot of candles and some ice coolers.I guess if enough people just didn’t pay their electric bill they would have to come get their intrusive meters.Second thought, it doesn’t seem that they would care. Nice world we live in today.If all else fails yell RACISM. Seems to work for the progressives

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  • jhrusky

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 12:20am

    To those of you whom want to ridicule and laugh:

    http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/index.php/smart-meter-questions-answers

    You’re doing the typical thing that most uninformed people do … ridiculing the messenger. The jury is still out on possible harmful effects of smart meters. Since they emit an RF frequency there is a possibility of a cancerous emission in some instances, depending upon where the smart meter is installed and how close someone is to it, as well as the length of time spent near it. They laughed and ridiculed those that were talking about possible brain cancer to smart-phone cell phone usage as well for years, and now know that people who keep that phone close to their heads for long periods of time ARE at an increased risk for cancer. Do not ridicule what you obviously do not know for certain.

    While the risk may be small, it’s still a risk, thus a person should be able to opt out if they so choose without that opting out being an expensive proposition. There is no reason a homeowner cannot keep their old meter and self-read it, sending that reading in monthly so the utility only has to read it, say, 2 times per year. The $25.00 additional meter reading fee per month is ridiculous and just a way to ‘encourage’ people to allow the meter on their home.

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  • bigone4u

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 3:22am

    No dog. The cops today will just shoot it.

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  • PATTY HENRY

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 3:58am

    ASK YOURSELVES THIS: What is Owned by the GOBMENT but pretends it’s non-profit? What is in every single house and commercial building in the USA? Where is the largest depository of $$$ in the USA (and any country really) ??? ANSWER: Your Power Company.

    In Canada, no Prime Minister has been elected except those who came up the corporate (Power Company) Ladder. These companies take in so much money it’s staggering. NOW they have let a few people (good ol’ boys of Chicago now) have patents on the plugs that THEY put in your outlets to control your amount of electricity; They are behind this whole Carbon Footprint B.S….In other words, they have finally learned how to TAX US FOR THE VERY AIR WE BREATHE.
    The fired CEO of Fannie Mae got the patent for the plug as part of a Chicago “corporation” that included Axelrod and Jarrett. DO you begin to get the picture? Think about this. You will be able to connect the dots.

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  • 19RANDY59

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 12:12pm

    Standing up for her rights, would be to shoot the bast**ds. This is the reason for the 2nd amendment. You know, the one that is no longer in affect. Simply because no one has the guts to exercise it. Now, for those who think I’m crazy, ask yourself this. Was that p*g fulfilling his constitutional oath? And would he have shot the woman? If she would have resisted. I’m sorry proud Americans, but do to your collective lack of heart, and soul, you no longer have any rights. You, my fellow subjects of the state, have privileges, that can be taken by your friendly neighborhood p*g, anytime he feels the urge. Are you old enough to remember that nation, called America? Silly Fools

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  • Walkabout

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 12:18pm

    jhrusky
    To those of you whom want to ridicule and laugh:

    http://www.smartmeterdangers.org/index.php/smart-meter-questions-answers
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    There have been numerous studies on cell phones & living near power lines.

    I actually tried to live next to a power line. It meant that in a neighborhood I was considering on living in that I would have not neighbor out back. It just gives you a feeling of space & privacy. Well that ideal was nixed by the more highly educated spouse.

    Personally for cellphones I would minimize the small exposure by using blue tooth or plugging in a head set especially for children. For children they have shown an increased risk of non-malignant lymphomas near the ear.

    People including scientists have questioned having so many wireless devices & being in a “soup” of man made electromagnetic radiation.
    *********
    Send-The-Meatballs.

    I noticed that you have a preference to responding to Valiant1776. It looks like your intention is to respond to all their posts until they give up & then move on to the next person. Meanwhile you scream when anyone returns the favor. What a crybaby.

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  • Walkabout

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 12:21pm

    Smart Meters Privacy & Unemployment

    I would rather a person go around & read the meters than have a smart meter that can be used to throttle or shut off power.

    After all we have such high unemployment.

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  • napoleon_solo

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 4:23pm

    Tell ya what there soybomb315_II, come back and tell us how you feel when someday you are uncomfortably cold and you go to your thermostat to turn up the heat and nothing happens. Why? Because some liberal bureaucrat lunkhead at the utility office has decided that you have consumed your allotment of energy and slapped a limit on further consumption on your meter. That may not be how these meters work, but that is what they are aiming for.

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  • RamonPreston

    Posted on January 26, 2013 at 6:48pm

    @UNCURABLE WOUND
    What you’re saying is to keep your neodymium magnets on your smart meter? Good thinking. Those things are unbelievably strong.

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  • Yuuperguy

    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 9:45am

    Ok, a few points here. Number 1. Yes smart meters allow them to turn off your power. If you don’t pay your bill, they can flip a switch and off it goes. As opposed to spending the expense to come to your house and turn of the power manually. (What I’m saying is pay your bill.) Number 2. You are no more likely to have a reaction to the wireless on this than on your cordless phone (or cell phone for that matter.) Anybody who tells you otherwise is an idiot. 3.The only information these meters convey is address, and usage. I personally will welcome the worker who comes to my door to install it. And thank him when he is done. I applaud this womans will, however misguided. But any of you who think these meters are in some way infringing on your rights, or perhaps “spying” on you, are paranoid and delusional. Read a science book for god’s sake.

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  • uralrider

    Posted on January 31, 2013 at 12:22pm

    Wrap the meter with Faraday Cloth.

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  • bertamus

    Posted on February 7, 2013 at 6:48pm

    @soybomb315_II Better than a government loving pansie.

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  • MyGodGivenRights

    Posted on February 10, 2013 at 2:05am

    @LOWERCLASSREPUBLICAN, you said, “No she won’t get off! she may not know it but she or her other signed a agreement with the electric company that aloud them access to the meter. She is what we on the left would call a idiot! She can keep them from installing the new meter, but that would leave her with no power to her house. All other arguments on this are stupid. I am sure the libs are recording all these commits and laughing at us.”
    You say you are “on the left.” In your comment, you called this woman an idiot. Be careful what you say about others – especially in writing when you can’t spell. Spell-check helps with a lot of things, but not with words that sound alike but are spelled differently, like aloud and allowed or commits and comments. This woman had already told the company she didn’t want the meter installed. The company didn’t try to work anything out with her after she started a conversation with them in advance of the installation. Their response to her was to force their way onto her property, police in hand, and install a device she had already told them she didn’t want. That’s not service, that’s forcible compliance. What happened to “the customer is always right?” Her commitment to her property rights speaks volumes over your lack of spelling skills. You could learn a few things from her.

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  • uralidiots

    Posted on February 20, 2013 at 9:13am

    Maximus first off to turn any thing in your home off remotely like your hotwater heater,AC unit things like that they have to have a device installed on them to allow them to do that. The other thing you said is they are making peaple sick is not proven. As far as the dog well we all have a basic right to defend ourselves and if my steeltoed boots to its head dont stop him when he attacks me then the screw driver i carry will when i run it in his eye to his brain sorry but just the way it is.

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• Joe_The_Patriot

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:29pm

  Weren’t the police violating her private property rights??? they didn’t have a warrant…..
  the electric company would need a court order to install the meter against the homeowners wishes and then a sheriff to deliver the court order and then accompany the utility worker to install the new meter… is that not due process???
  From what I read what happened was thug tactics and wrongful prosecution.. I would lawyer up, make it a national issue and get others to join the fight to stop the implementation of these intrusive devices…
  We are paying the electric companies for their service @ what point does that give them the right to install whatever they want on YOUR HOUSE ???

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  • Maximus767676

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:37pm

    Bet you they planned ahead, and knowing exactly who she was. Time to start buying your own solar panels, or a wind mill, or anything to get off that grid.

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:43pm

    When you build a home the HOMEOWNER or builder is responsible for providing the meter socket and all connections up to the weather head…. If I own the meter socket I dictate what goes in it…… You will NOT install YOUR device in MY Property without my consent…

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  • booger71

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:46pm

    So far they are not in my neck of the woods, but I already have a natural gas whole house generator, and if the Agenda 21 crew ever did install one, I would simply turn on my generator.

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  • brother_ed

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:46pm

    @JOE

    You have no property rights, because you have no property.

    You do not own your house, you are renting it from the government. You pay this rent under the guise of ‘property taxes’.

    Name one thing you own that the government can’t access.

    Sorry, but that’s the way it is…

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:53pm

    And people have the balls to say theres nothing to worry about, the gov’t isn’t going to take your guns….. And this is an example of exactly hows it going to happen… We are going to be bullied

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  • kennyg933

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:56pm

    The utility company has an easement on your property. Read your title insurance policy and you’ll see when it was recorded with your Register of Deeds. This does give them the right to enter your property to handle their equipment. If you really want to take a stand, get off the grid. Get a windmill and some good solar panels with adaquate storage and power transfer.

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  • Judeo_Christian

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:02pm

    Joe, you are right. This was a civil mater a not a criminal matter. The city could attempt to sue the family to gain access, but for the police to come on personal private property to enforce wait the city utility wants to do is a violation of the 4th Amendment. The police department better have deep pockets. This is going to cost them dearly. Someone also needs to educate the officers on the difference between civil and criminal laws and when police actions can and cannot be used.

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  • Oldphoto678

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:02pm

    Sure Joe whatever you say. You’re full of crap. As long as you have electrical service I will put whatever kind of meter I want on your house. And if you interfear with me I’ll have you arrested. I WILL WIN this fight.

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  • henryKnox

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:05pm

    We knew fascism was coming. We now are seeing public employees violating citizen property rights. When will gov’t employees take a stand against tyranny? The german soldiers never did take a stand against tyranny and we know that history.

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  • mycomet123

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:08pm

    I live in Omaha. I received a card in regards to the smart meter several months ago–basically it stated if I decided to have it placed, I would receive a $20.00 credit over the next year (yippy skippy). Of course I optted out. I was suprised because the card did state that the meter would control turning on & off your service for short periods of time during high usage in the area. It’s very much like big brother controlling your service. I really don’t want my air conditioning turned off when it’s over 100 degrees outside, even if it’s only for an hour.

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  • Endyr

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:26pm

    They live in the People’s Republic of Illinois. She has no rights.

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  • woodyee

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:50pm

    Maximus, a lot of Californians are falling for the ‘free’ solar panel trap. The companies are offering free installation and panels, and all the owner has to do is pay the solar company the lower energy usage fees. They get them ‘free’ because of some gobblement grant. Now I don’t know the stipulations regarding accepting these panels, but i feel you don’t really own them, because nothing is free. In the meantime, you THINK you’ve taken yourself off the grid for the life of the panels – 20yrs. Then what?

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:12pm

    @oldphoto
    B.S. I pay for the service You and the electic company WORK FOR ME!!!!!!!!!! PERIOD END OF STORY!! I own the meter socket, the weatherhead , the CDX, the breaker panel Ect. Any easement allows access but NOT TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE LANDOWNERS WISHES..

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  • Ditto Head

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:38pm

    @Joe
    Then you don’t get electricity…get it? People can p!$$ and moan til their blue in the face, but in the end, they will either get the meter the utility company requires them to get, or they will forfeit having service from said company. It’s really pretty simple. Maybe people’s time would be better spent getting themselves “off the grid” if that’s where they want to be. We can’t have it both ways. Man up. “Joe”

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  • GardenoftheGods

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:01pm

    This is all part of Agenda 21, if your town has bought into this UN BS, you’ll be facing the same issues as this Patriette did. Do your research people, Agenda 21 is all around us….ever hear the words “green space” used in your town? It’s there! We must take a stand together; or we’ll be falling apart alone.

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  • BoyScout_Mom

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:19pm

    ONCOR has been knocking on our door for 2 months now. The TX PUC just announced forthcoming opt out rules, but I noticed in the original story her company is offering the same for a price of $25-50 for the equipment install and $75 per month reading fee? That’s quite a hike for us.

    I noticed Glenn a couple of days ago mentioned hoping to “rush” the deamlab on an “alternative energy method” that’s a Secret… Sure wish he would hurry it up. Anyone have a clue?

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  • Tipdog

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 8:31pm

    Her property rights belong to the School District.

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 9:54pm

    @dittohead
    Eff That !!!! If I’m paying for the service it should provided in the way the customer wants!!!!! Man up??? I shouldn’t have to get off the grid.. the grid should get off me!!!! This is all obama the Un and agenda 21 and NOBODY should stand for it!!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!! PERIOD !!!!! Whats next the meter reader has to bang your wife or you don’t get service??? Give me a break !!!! STAND UP AND STAND STRONG FELLOW PATRIOTS!!!!! remember the gov’t needs to fear us for there to be liberty.. otherwise it’s tyranny!!!!!

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  • leebmad

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:26pm

    Your ownership ends at the end of the wires that come out of your house. The utility company “leases” the equipment to you from the meter box all the way to the power plant. They don’t need to have control of your meter base, if they want your power off they can just shut the whole block down. They want to avoid that because of people with medical equipment in their homes. Re”volt”(get it?) all you want, if they want you in the dark, they can put you there.

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  • naggs20

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:43pm

    JOE, take a breath my man, we have much larger battles than this one. The only thing this meter does is allow the utility to read your meter without coming on your property. Isn’t that a good thing for property rights. Instead of them having to pull in every ones driveway, get out and manually log in everyone’s meter reading they drive down the road and all the readings are logged straight into a lap top. I am an electrician and I have also installed these meters. They do not control anything in your house.
    You don’t have a “right” to use their service. If you don’t want their electric they will be glad to take their meter off your house. Then you can put whatever meter you want in your meter socket but I can assure you it won’t make the lights turn on because the utility’s service lines will no longer be connected at your weather head.
    It would be like telling the cable company that you don’t want a cable modem in your house or you don’t want to use their cable box. They would tell you that you have to use one of their boxes or your service will not work. In the end the ball is in your court. You cant make the supplier change their service. You either take it or leave it. Your options are to play buy their terms or utilize an alternative means to provide your house with power.
    I’m as conservative as they get. I just don’t understand how a meter that can be read remotely is causing this much controversy.

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  • BlueStrat

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:35pm

    !.> The electric utility may legally install any type meter it wishes, and it has legal easement to install/service it.

    2.> Theoretically, you should be able to make a choice to not connect to the grid.

    ~BUT~

    3.> Unfortunately, in many if not most areas, zoning and other ordinances require a connection to the electrical grid regardless of actual need, or face having the property condemned.

    4.> Even in cases where a homeowner generates all their own power, in many areas the government still requires a connection to the electrical grid (where they typically outline a plan to buy your excess generation for some set rate-per-kWh). I’ve heard but not confirmed that some areas *require* you to sell excess power generated under such scenarios, and forbid storing it.

    5.> Also heard but not confirmed – Some areas where smartmeters are being rolled out requires the homeowner to allow the smartmeter to control ALL the power to their home, INCLUDING power generated by the homeowner, so that they can decide to route the power you generate to someone else while you freeze/roast and go without AC for appliances, PCs, TVs, etc, if they so decide that is what they want to do.

    6.> Not sure about Ranger’s plan to stun-gun these meters. They were, after all, designed to withstand being on the grid during a lightning storm. God’s TASER is bigger than any of ours. :-)

    7.> Hackers will likely make these things unworkable if the meters have remote-shutoff features, whether ra

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:08am

    @naggs
    ALL battles are important.. The biggest issue here is that COPS are going to arrest you if you don’t comply with what the electric company wants you to do… THAT TO ME IS UNACCEPTABLE !!! And I think it’s just the tip of the iceberg….

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  • I support God's Israel!

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:20am

    LAWSUIT. Americans need to unite and FILE A FEDERAL LAWSUIT AGAINST THIS TYRANNY.

    ANYONE UP FOR THIS?

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  • thebeckster

    Posted on January 31, 2013 at 12:09am

    @Jorge_Washington
    ‘Except a smart meter is located on the outside of your home.’

    Actually, for those of us with older homes, the smart meter will be located IN our home.

    And frankly, although you’re showing great ignorance here, you’re not the only one. I’d suggest that truly open-minded people do what Beck advises and do their own research about smart meters. You can start here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JNFr_j6kdI

    It would also behoove posters here to learn the actual facts about what’s going on in Naperville:
    1. There’s a lawsuit pending against the city for illegally holding closed meetings when decisions were made in connection with the meters.
    2. The meters in question ARE smart meters.
    3. The installation of the meters in Naperville, as in so many places, is the result of crony capitalism. The meters are a cornerstone of Agenda 21 (again, do your own research to get the facts on Agenda 21), a stealth attempt to implement cap-and-trade so that the Lefties don’t have to deal with that pesky Congress or those uncooperative American citizens.
    4. There are many rational reasons to oppose Smart Metersw, including health and safety risks, the possibility of hacking, the fact that the meters are essentially warrantless wiretaps, etc. etc.
    5. We’re already on the road to mandatory Smart Houses– try getting a home thermostat that’s not chipped.

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• LeadNotFollow

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:29pm

  Why don’t police officers arrest REAL criminals?
  How many people were mugged, robbed, raped, and/or murdered, while these officers were escorting meter installers?

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  • Mil-Dot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:56pm

    Where I live the cops are always hiding in the shadows, waiting for unsuspecting motorists to drive by so they can zap them with a ticket. All the while the teenagers are being decimated and lives ruined by drug dealers pushing heroin, crack and meth on them. But don’t worry, the cops are getting those evil speeders. Nothing but revenue goons. That is all most of them are now.

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  • dcraw21b

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:29pm

    I have to agree. In my neck of the woods, all I see are cops sitting on the side of the road or in the parking lot of a church or fire department. Could be using our tax dollars better than trying to get more out of me for going 39 in a 35… Not to mention, several local high schools are overrun with heroin and all other manner of drugs. Seems a bit backwards.

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• Snowleopard {gallery of cat folks}

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:25pm

  And so communism encroaches further and further into our homes and lives, we have nearly no rights anymore. The government of all levels is out of control and too powerful by far.

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  • progressiveslayer

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:33pm

    That’s exactly what it is snow, this collectivist regime has eviscerated the constitution and bill of rights.
    This is now Amerika and our rights are gone,private property rights were killed years ago.

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  • tutilal

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:43pm

    Haven’t you see this is all part of Agenda 21????? is happening in Callifornia already
    God help us!!!!

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  • P J Ritchey

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:53pm

    You are sooo right Snow ….. I sadly suspect that we have passed a point of no return in this regard, and that it is now too late to turn the tides. I wrote a poem back in 2000 that seems to apply more now than it ever did back then ….. I fear what may be coming ….. http://www.thestarlitecafe.com/poems/49/poem_8203013624.html

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  • CatB

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:48pm

    Not to mention that these so called “smart” meters .. are a FIRE HAZARD and have been banned in other countries. Obama gave a BIG payoff to GE .. they made these crappy meters .. I told them I wanted to opt out .. they are coming back when all the other homes in the area are done .. or so they say. If you put aluminum foil over the top of them .. they stop working :-)

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  • bannedfromCNN

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:52am

    Welcome to Obamaville.

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  • VanceUppercut

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 11:58am

    Cons proving once again that they don’t actually know what Communism is.

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• Rayblue

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:24pm

  “Smart” would imply an improvement in functionality..
  “Imply” is the working word here.

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• AxelPhantom

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:23pm

  That solar/wind combo we have been eying is looking almost affordable right about now. Then again for $30,000 so does that property up in the middle of nowhere.

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• LeadNotFollow

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:22pm

  This is how our rights are being taken away.
  The Government starts small, then works their way up to taking away all rights.
  They know that most citizens won’t even realize they have lost all rights, until the deed is done. Until we are in another Holocaust. Then it will be too late.
  WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

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• spirited

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:21pm

  This is most likely how guns will be taken confiscated.

  First cities ASK “folks” to turn them in –for a little cash.
  Then politicians make media covered speeches about necessary gun restrictions in order to save children’s lives.
  Then some politicians compile lists of proposed gun regulations… and make some more media covered speeches; with regular “folks” behind them.

  >In the end, they (probably plan to) go house by house to get them.

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• Larry E

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:20pm

  Welcome to the Fascist States of Amerika! The Constitution no longer is honored or respected by those who’ve sworn to uphold and defend it from ALL enemies foreign and domestic. Looks like they’re not doing a very good job.

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  • spirited

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:26pm

    Under the guise of Village, City, County or Local Ordinances.

    > Lemonade anyone? (sigh)

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• Small World

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:18pm

  Go to http://www.refusesmartmeters.com for more info. on this. Agenda 21.

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• Outlaw_Josey_Wales

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:17pm

  The city employee who cut the lock should of been arrested for destroying private property!

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• geomann

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:16pm

  The other option to avoid this is to call the electric company to have your power disconnected, siting the need for some type of repair, then never hook it up again. Go off the grid.

  I don’t think you can dictate how power is delivered to your home, so demanding an analog meter is like demanding McDonalds cook your burger in the microwave. Not gonna happen.

  Installing a new meter without consent seems illegal to me, but they do have the right to disconnect you if you refuse the only approved meter they offer.

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  • TonyRUS

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:48pm

    Exactly. I don’t get it. Why the arrest? Why not just disconnect the power? If cable TV required a cable company visit to make some equipment change, and you said no, they’d just turn you off, right? Yet no mention in the story of the disconnect option or consideration. ??

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  • BetterNTexas

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:08pm

    TONYRUS;

    Sure, you could disconnect from the grid but unless you can prove you have electricity going to your property how long do you think it would be before the government would show up saying that you’re neglecting your kids by not providing them a safe living space? I guess if she put up solar panels and a windmill or ran her power off a generator 24/7, then she could make the case that she doesn’t need an electrical connection. But my guess is that there are laws/regulations about the “safety” of a property and whether it’s deemed “livable” by the powers that be and if so, can child protective services be far behind?

    They want to install them here and the power company keeps helpfully telling me that I’m “eligible” to receive one. No thank you. I am not interested in the giving the government the power to turn off my power or monitor the settings in my home. I pay for my power and monitor my own usage, thank you very much. I don’t need a government nanny. I heard recently the alternative is that I will have to pay a fee for them to send someone out to manually read my meter.

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  • DADDYWOREAWHITEHAT

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:16pm

    Why the arrest? Perhaps because she signed onto a lawsuit & they want to make an example of her?
    Seems to me if the control freaks want to turn off power they can just cut the grid & everybody is off anyway they don’t need some cutoff in your backyard. Not having the smart meter is not going to stop the coming control over who gets power & who doesn’t it just makes it a little easier for the poor people who have to work for the power company.

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• DougHuffman

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:15pm

  About solar panels, y’all can’t afford them. WattsUpWithThat.com Who fails to do arithmetic is doomed, not least to nonsense.

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  • Cavallo

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:31pm

    Eh, depends on how you finance it. It’d be like installing good siding. The Westinghouse model puts out 235w/h per panel. The average house uses 1.89kw or 1890 watts per day. So you’d need just over 8 panels. Westinghouse has them for 4pack from Lowes for $3100. So about 7 grand all said and done, unless you have professional installation. It is a major home improvement project, and not like buying a personal generator for when the ice knocks out the power lines. I don’t have solar panels, but if I ever get ahead of my bills I might consider installing them to be energy independent.

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  • DougHuffman

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:45pm

    Disregarding your naive estimation of initial costs, what is payback time? Remember that the average cost of electricity is 8¢ kWh^-1. What you pay in your bill includes the delivery infrastructure costs. Trust me, it is a boondoggle.

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  • soybomb315_II

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:53pm

    how do you store that 1.9kw….Dont you need batteries?

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  • DougHuffman

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 6:20pm

    Batteries store DC at a couple of volts per cell. Good inverters are mindboggling expensive.

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  • davidmundy

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 10:47pm

    You can’t afford the solar panels if you want to use electricity like you do ON THE GRID. If you change your usage habbits.. then the panels become affordable and do-able. Install LED lighting, 25 inch LED tv instead of 55 inch saves 75% usage. Summertime you sleep in the cool basement..now you don’t need airconditioner! … etc etc brings down your usage until you only need a few solar panels and a wind generator. It can be done but it just takes a few changes in lifestyle.

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  • welovetheUSA

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:05pm

    Donot forget the batteries…….they cost a ton, depending where you live..how much sunlite you get etc.around 16 grand for the average 11 sq foot home.

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  • r3dbull4dd1kt

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 11:14pm

    also don’t forget that those panels are about as durable as an egg…if you’re anywhere with snow/ice in winter haha good luck…

    also remember that they’re output drops in half after approximately 2 years outside…now you have the storage and distribution problem–converting DC to AC is inefficient and expensive…batteries are EXTREMELY expensive and last only a few years due to constant charge/drain/recharge cycles (think a cell phone battery!)

    Supposed ‘green energy’ is a farce; the technology for simple, effective off-grid electricity is a dream…it doesn’t exist and the Power Conglomerates KNOW IT!

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• LeadNotFollow

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:13pm

  Under Obama, Big Brother will be everywhere.
  The Government doesn’t give a crap about health risks.
  They want to control every aspect of our lives.

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• ROB RAGE

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:13pm

  Your Property is No Longer Private~~~The Government is longer your Servant~~~You are There’s~~~Resist and you will be arrested~~!!

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• ProPatriaVigilans

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:13pm

  just install your own generator and tell the electric company to cut the service, if they refuse to cut the service stop paying for it.

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• KevINtampa

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:09pm

  The last time I checked this wasn’t a free country.

  If you want freedom, you gotta go somewhere else. As for what freedom looks like, or where to find it, I wouldn’t know as I’ve never seen it. I just know that this ain’t freedom and I don’t remember it ever going away so I must have never had it.

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  • strawberry411a

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:17pm

    What was the charge? City can access “their” equipment but not if it requires destruction of private property. Police and military are going to start having to make some decisions in the field…much like the German army did when the SS followed them through Poland. Sgt, I hope you feel good about this. I suspect it will be thrown out or a fine of some sort will be imposed.

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  • Vickie Dhaene

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:18pm

    They have prepared for that. @ year waiting lists for passports out of the country. Update yours now.

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  • civilwarcometh

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:28pm

    This is how they will come to take our gun’s. One house at a time…

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• DougHuffman

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:09pm

  Fear of health risks from the transmitter brands those as kooks. The easements are a matter of local jurisdiction, often a prerequisite to receive service.

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• spirited

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:08pm

  What if electricity is obtained from another source; such as solar panels?

  May a homeonwer then have the electric company remove it’s equipment from the homeowner’s property?

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  • stopprintn

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:34pm

    That is what they want, solar is crap. I choose to keep my cheep oil and gas, it lessons the burden of an old beat-up carpenter.

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• lesko200

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:04pm

  You can bet there are some lawyers smeliung blood right now.

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• ginger100

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:01pm

  metertruther, meterbirther, metruther, meterearther I give up?

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  • henryKnox

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:32pm

    We can’t give up. The German people gave up and chose to look the other way when they were face with similar gov’t oppression by regulation. The results, as we all know, were disasterous. Fascism by any name (ie Progressivism) has never worked out well for the people.

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• Cavallo

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 4:59pm

  Depends on the deed. If there is not a stated easement in the deed, then they require a Warrant to enter the property uninvited. Then again, this is Amerika, and to assume you have rights is treading on thin ice.

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  • WarMunger_Al

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:06pm

    If she owns the property she should shut off the electricity and smash the box. Then install solar panels and be done with it.

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  • stopprintn

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:15pm

    Do yoy have any idea what solar panels cost?

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:20pm

    @warmonger
    what is she going to do at night??

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  • WarMunger_Al

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:13pm

    You can get a complete solar set-up for between $10-30,000.
    “what do you do at night?”
    It is called a battery. You have a bank of batteries as part of the system along with an inverter. My father had his house rigged.
    If you don’t waste energy, you can get by with a lesser system.
    Also, you could run off propane, you can get everything from the “Lehman’s” catalog. They supply the Amish with propane powered fridges, lights, etc…

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 7:40pm

    And when u drain the battery or the battery doesn’t hold as much charge over time like all batteries do then your running to fire up your generator, your burnin fuel, propane, ect.. now your just some other industries puppet…. lets face it it’s very hard to get off the grid UNLESS your willing to live like the amish… This is AMERICA we should be able to live how we want without the gov’t intrusion that’s whats really at issue here… WE NEED TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!!!! we shouldn’t have to be forced to get off the grid… the grid should get off of us!!!!!

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• mr166

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 4:58pm

  She has every right to refuse the meter and access to her property. The electric company then has every right to turn off service to her home. There is no need to arrest anyone.

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  • lowerclassrepublican

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:19pm

    No if you look at the paper work when you first got service it states that they have every right to access the meter. The meter belongs to the power company and not you. I agree they handled it wrong. The should of given the woman a choice. You allow us to change the meter or we are terminating your service and need to collect our meter.

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  • Joe_The_Patriot

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:34pm

    When you biuld a home the HOMEOWNER or builder is responsible for providing the meter socket and all connections up to the weather head…. If I own the meter socket I dictate what goes in it…… You will NOT install YOUR device in MY Property without my consent…

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  • lowerclassrepublican

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 12:10am

    Yes but the meter is theirs lol! I can not believe the other people on this. Now I am starting to see that we do have as many wackos as the left. I thought we were the smart ones.

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  • BrutalTruth

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:00am

    Lowerclass, your reasoning skills need to be re-evaluated. Mr166 is actually the sound response.

    That the police arrested this woman, should indicate to everyone, your property is an abstract. It’s not really yours, your renting it through taxes.
    The proper outcome should have been the power company disconnecting service to the property. Then the home owner could complain all she wanted.
    This absolutely shows that the police are not interested in following the law, but to follow their power leaders to keep their jobs. It certainly should cause each and every person to reflect on how far they would be violated by the government, before they actually did anything, and what that anything might be.

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• gyro

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 4:57pm

  you cant fight cityhall
  but a good try is always worth it
  she may want to try wrapping tinfoil around the transmitter if its the same *from the street* type they have here
  that may stop them for a short time

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  • WarMunger_Al

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:07pm

    a sledge would work better.

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• Red Meat

  Posted on January 24, 2013 at 4:52pm

  And some so-called conservatives think the jackboots with a badge will be on our side when the SHTF. Wake up lemmings.

  PS: I wish I was a lawyer in Napperville. I believe these women have a huge case against the city PD.

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  • stopprintn

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:06pm

    Yes, cash in dears!

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  • Smokey_Bojangles

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:07pm

    Wish I Could give you a thumbs up just for the “And some so-called conservatives think the jackboots with a badge will be on our side when the SHTF. ” Remark.

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  • chips1

    Posted on January 24, 2013 at 5:09pm

    If you were a lawyer, you would already know the judge has been paid for in advance.

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  • RamonPreston

    Posted on January 25, 2013 at 9:41am

    It’s about more than money. It’s about our rights, too. If the city wins they will use it as a precedent against everybody. Our government spying on us, they want to control everything we think and do.

    I have a tv converter box in the garage. Want to take it apart and see the microphone and camera in it? The perfect device to monitor your living room and everyone in it. 1986 is here.

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