World

Ex-Italian Premier Berlusconi’s Shocking Comments: Mussolini ‘Did Good’ Despite the ‘Extermination of the Jews’

Ex Italian Premier Berlusconis Shocking Comments: Mussolini Did Good Despite the Extermination of the Jews

Getty Images

ROME (AP) — Former Italian Premier Silvio Berlusconi praised Benito Mussolini for `’having done good” despite the Fascist dictator’s anti-Jewish laws, immediately sparking expressions of outrage as Europe on Sunday held Holocaust remembrances.

Berlusconi also defended Mussolini for allying himself with Hitler, saying he likely reasoned that it would be better to be on the winning side.

The media mogul, whose conservative forces are polling second in voter surveys ahead of next month’s election, spoke to reporters on the sidelines of a ceremony in Milan to commemorate the Holocaust.

In 1938, before the outbreak of World War II, Mussolini’s regime passed the so-called `’racial laws,” barring Jews from Italy’s universities and many professions, among other bans. When Germany’s Nazi regime occupied Italy during the war, thousands from the tiny Italian Jewish community were deported to death camps.

`’It is difficult now to put oneself in the shoes of who was making decisions back then,” Berlusconi said of Mussolini’s support for Hitler. `’Certainly the (Italian) government then, fearing that German power would turn into a general victory, preferred to be allied with Hitler’s Germany rather that oppose it.”

Berlusconi added that “within this alliance came the imposition of the fight against, and extermination of, the Jews. Thus, the racial laws are the worst fault of Mussolini, who, in so many other aspects, did good.”

More than 7,000 Jews were deported under Mussolini’s regime, and nearly 6,000 of them were killed.

Reactions of outrage, along with a demand that Berlusconi be prosecuted for promoting Fascism, quickly followed his words.

Berlusconi’s praise of Mussolini constitutes “an insult to the democratic conscience of Italy,” said Rosy Bindi, a center-left leader. `’Only Berlusconi’s political cynicism, combined with the worst historic revisionism, could separate the shame of the racist laws from the Fascist dictatorship.”

Italian laws enacted following the country’s disastrous experience in the war forbid the encouragement of Fascism. A candidate for local elections, Gianfranco Mascia, pledged that he and his supporters will present a formal complaint on Monday to Italian prosecutors, seeking to have Berlusconi prosecuted.

Advocating aggressive nationalism, Mussolini used brutish force and populist appeal evoking ancient Rome’s glories to achieve and keep his dictatorial grip on power, starting in the early `20s and lasting well into World War II. His Fascist `’blackshirt” loyalists cracked down on dissidents, through beatings and jailings.

He encouraged big families to propagate the Italian population, established a sprawling state economy and erected monumental buildings and statues to evoke ancient Rome. Mussolini sought to impose order on a generally individualistic-minded people, and Italians sometimes note trains ran on time during Fascism.

With dreams of an empire, he sent Italian troops on missions to attack or occupy foreign lands, including Ethiopia and Albania. Eventually, Italian military failures in Africa and in Greece fostered rebellion among Fascist officials, and in 1943 he was placed under arrest by orders of the Italian king. His end came at the vengeful hands of partisan fighters, who shot him and his mistress, and left their bodies to hang in a Milan square in April 1945.

Berlusconi’s former government allies have included political heirs to neo-fascist movements admiring Mussolini.

In 2010, he told world leaders at a Paris conference that he had been reading Mussolini’s journals, and years earlier Berlusconi had claimed that Mussolini `’never killed anyone.”

Berlusconi is running in Feb. 24-25 Parliamentary elections and has repeatedly changed his mind on whether he is seeking a fourth term as premier. Monti is also running, but polls put him far behind front-runner Pier Luigi Bersani, a center-left leader who supported Monti’s austerity measures to save Italy from the Eurozone debt crisis.

Polls show about one-third of eligible voters are undecided.

Benghazi, IRS, AP...What's next? Only TheBlaze TV offers the truth from Glenn Beck, Andrew Wilkow, and Real News from TheBlaze. Get instant access and a free trial here.

Comments (107)

  • thegreatcarnac
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:15pm

    Anytime anyone makes a remark that does not utterly dam* Hitler or Mussolini the left gets agitated. The left hates both of these dead men because they had the nerve to attack their icon…mother Russia. As bad as they were they both did some good for their countries. Comparitively, Mussolini was a boyscout and Hitler was……Hitler. It can also be pointed out that no Italian Jews were killed until Germany came in and took over Italy to support their southern flank. The Germans virtually ruled Italy after that and Mussolini really did not kill those Jews.

    Report this comment

    thegreatcarnac  
    • stealthman
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:42pm

      In 1935 when Hitler was adopting all kinds of anti-Jewish laws already, Mussolini was asked why he was not doing the same in Italy. His answer was telling, “If Jews were citizens of Ancient Rome (which was true), why should it be any different in my Empire. Why should I change that status quo?” Yet, don’t get me wrong. I believe Mussolini was a racist, but not against Jews. I think he hated blacks. I remember that really sad video of Haile Selassie appearing before the League of Nations pleading for international help to repel Mussolini’s invasion of Ethiopia because Mussolini was using chemical weapons against his people. So Mussolini was a real tyrant, and not one I would ever want to be in the company of.

      Berlusconi is a different matter. I would like to one day have a discussion with him in his office. I would not want to be with him at night though. He is a predator with multiple women at the same time. His appetite for multiple sex partners at the same time is disturbing. He said he learned Bunga Bunga from Khaddafi. Go figure.

      Report this comment

      stealthman  
    • techengineer11
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:19pm

      Funny how many in America in the day thought Lenin and Uncle Joe Stalin were just damn dandy despite slaughtering milllions of Russians..

      For whatever reason some people are just far more important than others in the eyes of the Media.

      But not in my eyes.

      Report this comment

      techengineer11  
    • stealthman
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 6:16pm

      Yes, Mussolini was no Hitler, but look out this dignified Emperor of Ethiopia is treated by the Italians at the League of Nations. And the hypocrites in Europe lifted the sanctions against Mussolini despite this travesty!!

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyX2kXeFUlo

      Report this comment

      stealthman  
  • Canada_Goose
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:47pm

    I’d love to hear Mr. Beck and Mr. Goldberg tell me again how fascism is a left wing ideology if all the condemnation against Mr. Berlisconi’s statements are coming from the left. All you hear from the Italian conservative parties is crickets.

    Report this comment

    Canada_Goose  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:14pm

      Terms like left and right have ambigious meanings. Fascists and communists are both totalitarian in their approach only differing in goals. Many in the US use “left” to refer to big government. In Europe, “left” is usually used to refer to policies of wealth redistribution, equality in terms of living standards, and government nanny-state welfare programs.

      Report this comment

      tzion  
    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:40pm

      Does the ‘left wing’ refer to size of government?

      Yes, there is a positive correlation between the size of government and how ‘left’ you are or a government is.

      So yes, fascism and communism only have one difference: the idealism of Marx and Engels, which has inspired communism and, later on in history, the progressive era, SDS and virtually every president since Calvim Coolidge.

      Report this comment

      The_Cabrito_Goat  
  • stealthman
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:13pm

    I am a Jew, and I will give Berlusconi a pass on this one, because frankly it is true. Mussolini may have been a brutal Fascist, but he did everything to prevent the Final Solution from being imposed on Italian Jews as long as he was in power. He took power in 1922. He did not pass one anti-Jewish law until 1938. Even his Minister of Propaganda was a Jewish mistress of his. He started to pass such laws when he saw how easily the Anschluss with Austria went. He started to wonder would he be Anschlussed next. So he passed dummy laws. And when he made Concentration Camps, yes Jews lived in them, but they lived together as families and even kept Jewish holidays, but it kept Goering and Eichmann from pestering him. Even after 1943, when Germany basically took over what the Allies had not taken over in Italy, Mussolini tried to play chess with Eichmann and others to keep his Jews alive and in Italy. He did not succeed at that time because by 1943 he was basically a puppet.

    In many ways Mussolini was a lot like Berlusconi except that Berlusconi was an elected leader and Mussolini was a tyrant. They both had massive appetites for women and power. Yes, Hitler was a monster in a league of his own along with Stalin and Mao. Mussolini was a despot but not in Hitler’s league.

    Report this comment

    stealthman  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:51pm

      You’ve described the plight of the Palestinians under Zionist control. They’ve learned their trade well.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • thegreatcarnac
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:56pm

      You are correct…..good post.

      Report this comment

      thegreatcarnac  
    • Fubared
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:06pm

      Jihad jerk…plight and trade? Moron.

      Report this comment

      Fubared  
    • techengineer11
      Posted on January 28, 2013 at 12:03am

      I appreciate that insight. I had often held Mussolini in high regards now I see that he was simply trash.

      Hilter should have had him removed and found a real leader for Italy.

      Report this comment

      techengineer11  
  • LoneStarGigger
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:48pm

    Right up until Mussolini started helping the Nazi’s eradicate Jews (which he really had no taste for, but I guess when a pistol is held to your head you do what you’re told) many, many so called American leaders had nothing but praise for Mussolini up to and including today’s Socialist hero FDR.
    Mussolini was a Socialist and very proud to be one as he stated many. many times. Though the libs in this country like to say that a Fascist like Mussolini (he invented the word) is”right wing” and they may have a point, but they don’t go all the way, Mussolini was a right wing SOCIALIST but a socialist none the less.

    Report this comment

    LoneStarGigger  
  • cja23
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:44pm

    Talk about your total whackjob: Berlusconi.

    Report this comment

    cja23  
  • Verceofreason
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:55pm

    This guy wears more makeup than Palin.

    Report this comment

    Verceofreason  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:08pm

      Almost as much as WANGO, right?

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
    • Brasil2520
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:01pm

      Italy was safer in Mussolini’s time 1920′s 30′s, look at (GASP!) I’m going to say it – wait for it – wait for it – CRIME STATISTICS !!! You Blaze liberals miss/ignore that point.

      After Europe last the 45 war, Africans started moving in, Africans are synonymous with crime, drugs, rapes . . . I’ll say it again for FUBARED – Italy was safer under Mussolini, no not perfect, but parts of Italy today look like Haiti

      FUBARED – can you name me one mostly black city that has prosperity, I’ll bet anyone $100.Reichsmark that FUBARED doesn’t reply to my question.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqDL9WR1QT8&feature=endscreen&NR=1

      Report this comment

      Brasil2520  
  • jnfomo
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:41pm

    @ momrules

    You are correct. Part of this anti-semitic movement, besides hatefulness, can be blamed on a doctrine that is in vogue right now. It teaches that the Church has replaced Israel in the plan and heart of G-d. This doctrine is known as replacement theology, progressive dispensationalism or supersessionism. It has infiltrated many churches and is responsible for the rise in anti-semitism. Its roots date back to the European Church; the early Church did not teach this. This doctrine stated that the Jews have been rejected by God, and the Church has taken the place of Israel in
    God’s plan for the ages. It also states that the Jews are blind in that they crucified Christ, and that Israel failed God and as a result was replaced by the Church. It teaches that the Church is a spiritual Israel and that Jerusalem is any town in which there is a church. Pair this with The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which fueled the Holocaust and Russian pogroms – you know, the old and tired lies that the Jews are out to take over the world nonsense – and you have a new insurgence of anti-semitism. Unfortunately these same lies were responsible for so much unwarranted violence and loss of life many times throughout history. Hopefully, with an accurate understanding of history and the Bible (for Christians) more people will grow tired of the lies and seek the truth.

    Report this comment

    jnfomo  
    • momrules
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:16pm

      I have read about the replacement theology and I could never understand how a Bible believing Christian could believe that nonsense. God’s word does not change. Israel is His and the Jews are His chosen people. Satan has always hated them and has reached into the heart of mankind to cause them to hate them too.
      This is all just more of the prophetic word being revealed and carried out.
      Thank you for the information.

      Report this comment

      momrules  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:55pm

      Jnfomo, unfortunately these religious Jews do not agree with your fiction: http://www.truetorahjews.org/antisemitism

      Nor does the New Testament. Yours sounds more like excuse making, confabulating the acts of secular Jews with those of the religion, Judaism.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Cabrito_Goat
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:46pm

      Aha! So you think secular Jews spoil the bunch, right? Not that all those who practice Judaism are corrupt people?

      Report this comment

      The_Cabrito_Goat  
  • freeberty
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:39pm

    Booby Jindal blasting Paul Ryan, and calling the Republican Party the stupid party.
    Paul Ryan praising Hilliary Clinton for being a fiscal conservative, is he hoping to become her Vice Presidential candidate?.
    John McCain seems to be Obama’s biggest supporter on immigration reform.
    Yea, I guess with the republican party completely imploding and joining the democrats to completely dismantle America, The Blaze Has no choice but to run a story about a washed up ITALIAN nobody.

    Report this comment

    freeberty  
  • truthnstuff
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:22pm

    Ah, another 0bama hero speaks out on the plan.

    Report this comment

    truthnstuff  
  • RANGER1965
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:58pm

    If Berlusconi’s intent was to judge Mussolini in the times that he lived, and to say that Mussolini wasn’t all bad and likely did some good things for Italy, then he is correct.

    If his intent is to soften Mussolini’s image to justify his evil, then he’s an idiot, and will likely do so much damage to himself that his credibility will be ruined for years to come.

    Report this comment

    RANGER1965  
    • Micmac
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:06pm

      The question begs to be asked: How much good offsets the extermination of 7000 Italians? The guy was a evil man, and there is no good in an evil soul. Typically I agree with your comments, but you need to revisit this one.

      Report this comment

      Micmac  
    • RANGER1965
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:17pm

      @MICMAC

      Re-read my second paragraph.

      Since I totally agree with what you said, I don’t think we have any conflict.

      Report this comment

      RANGER1965  
    • Micmac
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:32pm

      @ RANGER
      Ya I figured you felt different than the post.
      “then he is correct.” This is what I hung my hat on. Sorry if I offended you because I agree where you typically come from. Gotta love the hanging preposition. My daughter and her husband live and work in Italy and everyone there has no respect for this idiot of a man and know he’s as sick and crooked as they come. Cradle robber. As an fyi, if the ECB stays out of meddling in Italy’s finances, it will come out fine, not because of the government, but because of the people. Personal debt among the populus is low (e.g., no debt on properties).

      Report this comment

      Micmac  
    • 1stKENTUCKYREGULAR
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:42pm

      @micmac
      7000 italians exterminated under Mussolini does not compare to the # exterminated in the 40 years of ROE V WADE in this country. If Mussolini was evil, what does that make our progressive government.

      Report this comment

      1stKENTUCKYREGULAR  
  • Liekiller
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:56pm

    Gee, I liked Jeffrey Dahmer, just didn’t care for his dietary choices.

    Report this comment

    Liekiller  
    • Chuck Stein
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:19pm

      Yup, it goes along with: “aside from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you enjoy the show?”

      Report this comment

      Chuck Stein  
    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:20pm

      Let Them Eat “FIDO”

      Report this comment

      13th Imam  
    • ThomasUSA
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:31pm

      Sort of the same thinking that says… We just saved the American people 50 billion dollars by cutting the 1 trillion dollar deficit by 5%…?

      Report this comment

      ThomasUSA  
  • IMCHRISTIAN
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:29pm

    A lot or a little of evil does not make a one bit of good. God will judge.

    Report this comment

    IMCHRISTIAN  
  • 13th Imam
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:21pm

    Adolph created great roads

    Barry created the Union Stimulus. He sole from ACTUAL TAXPAYERS and gave the cash to his Union Goobas to buy votes.

    All three will go down in history as thieves and murderers

    Report this comment

    13th Imam  
  • momrules
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:21pm

    It is becoming quite the thing, again, to openly hate the Jews. No fear, no shame or embarrassment because it can always be justified someway, somehow by the ignorant haters. In this idiots mind the deaths and betrayal of all those Jews were justified in the name of safety and economics.

    This will happen here in America to both Christians and Jews in the coming months. We Christians seem to be holding the country back with our constant demands of morality that the left just hates and hating Jews is a worldwide pass time.

    With the rise of Islam and the escalation of communism in America it is just a matter of time.

    Report this comment

    momrules  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:35pm

      Momrules: “It is becoming quite the thing, again, to openly hate the Jews.”

      No mom. It’s not. People grow tired of the asymmetrical power practiced by such a small group, and their influence in changing the culture and traditions of the nations to which they emigrate. This is why their history is replete with suffering.

      People grew tired of the Italian Mafia too.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Almighty_Creestof
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:52pm

      @ The Jerk

      Then, couldn’t the same thing be said about our illegal aliens?

      And if you leave out the emigrating part, couldn’t you say the same thing about blacks & athiests? Or anyone else who arrives after the status quo develops and refuses to conform?

      Report this comment

      The_Almighty_Creestof  
    • Micmac
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:54pm

      @ the jerk

      Simple minds have simple thoughts

      Report this comment

      Micmac  
    • 13th Imam
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:09pm

      “The Jews”
      An easy target for the small of mind.

      Report this comment

      13th Imam  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:17pm

      The_Almighty_Creestof: “Then, couldn’t the same thing be said about our illegal aliens?”

      The economy and the media have the most pronounced and asymmetrical power over a culture. Anyone with more than two neural cells understands that truth. This is why dictators target both first. This is why Amsel Rothschild in 1838 said, “Let me issue and control a Nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws.”

      Who controls our money? The Federal Reserve, who answers to no one. The chairman of the Federal Reserve has been Jewish during my entire life, just like the Rothschild previously quoted. Jews are 1.3 % of our population. That’s asymmetrical, cultural changing, power.

      Who controls our media? Ask them. Ask Joel Stein (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-stein19-2008dec19,0,4676183.column). Jews are 1.3% of our population. That’s asymmetrical, cultural changing, power.

      Per Rabbi Daniel Lapin, “ACLU’s leadership is almost reminiscent of a temple board meeting.” That’s a cultural changing organization.

      The founders and funders of the NAACP were Jewish. The “Hollywood Ten” were Jewish. The Rosenberg’s were Jewish… .

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:51pm

      Micmac, here’s another simple mind. Einstein: “”So often in history the Jews have been the instigators of justice and reform whether in Spain, Germany or Russia.”

      Instigators are changers. They are changers to their world view of justice and reform, in deference to the majority. This becomes the problem.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:12pm

      @Jerk
      Change and reform, for better or worse, are inevitable. Nothing stays the same for very long and it has always been the case that the successful and influential are often the movers of society. Can you honestly claim that Jews have only been the cause of evil within society? It was a Jew named Levi Strauss who invented the blue jeans that you almost certainly have worn. It was a Jew named Irving Berlin who composed “God Bless America” and “White Christmas”. History has shown the Jews to be generally successful and you seem to hate that.

      You contradict yourself Jerk. With your left hand your crticize blacks and Hispanics for bring a burden to society while with your right you critcize Jews for contributing too much to society. Would you prefer that Jews not try their hardest to succeed and instead accepted government handouts like so many others? Would you have us restrain our full potential so as to appease your sense of superiority? Or perhaps you think that we should simply “pay our fair share”. Jews are active within society becuase they know from experinece that they can count on no one else for their prosperity.

      Report this comment

      tzion  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:25pm

      @Jerk
      “They are changers to their world view of justice and reform, in deference to the majority.” Your statement is a contradiciton in and of itself. If Jews were the cause of changes within society it would have to be with the support of others since the Jews have never held any position of absolute authority. And since many governments have been hostile to the Jews and often lacked the power to change society from the inside, these changes would have been grassroots like so many others.

      I find it strangely dogmatic of you to claim that only a member of a majority group can enact positive change. So much for the idea of individualism. After all, by your reasoning people are solely defined by the ethnic group they belong to. Moreover, one could argue that as most people today don’t hold your perspective, that it is you who, as a minority, are trying to change society in defernce of the majority.

      Report this comment

      tzion  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:48pm

      Tzion, I don’t have to be schooled in the many accomplishments of Jews or Gentiles. But the fact is, communism is Jewish, with Jewish roots. The fact is, it is a political philosophy espoused by Jewish tradition (Understanding that there are exceptions, just like not all Germans were Nazis, but Nazism had German roots.).

      Today, here in America, Jews espouse that same un-American tradition, and they have the power to make that change. The change began here, in America, shortly after the mass immigration of the eastern European Jews. Be proud of it. But, they are not. They hide it at every turn. They deceive, and change the vocabulary from communist, to liberal, to progressive, for that very purpose.

      They know that they must, because they are an extreme minority. They know that societal division helps them along the way, which is why you find them in the homosexual movement, feminist movement, black movement, ACLU, SPLC… . Their history is the same everywhere throughout time.

      At some point one realizes that the problem is not with the schools in district after district, state after state, that continues expelling the same child time after time. At some point one realizes that it is the behavior of the child that is the problem, no matter how many times that child cries foul.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:01pm

      Tzion: ” If Jews were the cause of changes within society it would have to be with the support of others since the Jews have never held any position of absolute authority.”

      No contradiction. Through wealth and influence one can get monkeys to do anything.

      Imagine being a politician and surviving an attack from the Jewish New York Times empire and holdings. Imagine the influence over a culture when you have the controlling interest in their media culture. Look, Hollywood is not communist by accident. It was no accident that nine out of the Hollywood Ten were Jewish.

      It’s no accident that Jacob Schiff and Max Warburg funded the Russian Revolution, and you might want to look at Schiff’s first attempt at removing the Russian Czar who would not play by the Jewish banking rules.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:03pm

      Tzion, lest I forget. It is also no surprise that the Jewish, George Soros, is funding the communist demise of America. You see, that is power and influence. And, that is the Jewish way.

      Do you really think that all of these facts are coincidence?

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:37pm

      @Jerk
      “But the fact is, communism is Jewish, with Jewish roots. The fact is, it is a political philosophy espoused by Jewish tradition”

      Once again, which tradtion are you speaking of? Every single Jew who was a communist rejected the very core of Jewish culture, Judaism, with almost no exceptions. The real fact is, Communism is a secularist ideology, with entirely secular roots. It is a political philosophy espoused by secularist tradition. The proof: I can name over a dozen non-Jewish communists who truly believe in communism but you can’t name a single religious communist, or at leat not a religious Jew. The only reason there are so many communist Jews is because Jews had greater incentive to be secular than most people. You yourself have lamented the fact that so many Jews don’t embrae their host culture.

      You listed Savage as an exception to your rule but Savage is just as secular as any of them, only differing in which non-Jewish culture he embraced. How do you account for Jews who are more connected to their culture than all the politicians you cite but are more conservative than all of them put together. Just look at people like Michael Medved or Mark Levin: strongly conservative, far more deeply involved in Judaism than any typical leftist Jew, strongly pro-Israel, and even are in favor of things like prayer in schools. How do you account for those people or even myself for that matter?

      Report this comment

      tzion  
  • AxelPhantom
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:16pm

    Burlesconi is simply reiterating what every Socialist/Facist has done since Marx….the Philosophy of Communism is not flawed, it is just that no one has done it right yet.

    Sounds like a lot of the trolls we get around here.

    Report this comment

    AxelPhantom  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:30pm

      Fact is, both Moses Hess and Karl Marx were Jewish. Communism is world kibbutz-ism.

      Another untold fact of history is that there was a world depression when Hitler took office, and his nation was at the bottom of that depression. Germans needed wheelbarrows full of money to by one loaf of bread. Once Hitler removed the Jews from power, well before his heinous Holocaust, Germany climbed to the top of the economic ladder. In 5 years Germany went from the bottom to the top in finance, education, and the arts.

      The Holocaust is a stain on humanity. But, so is ignoring the truth.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:58pm

      Jerk,

      O.k. so let’s just say for the sake of arguement, that you are correct and it is all the fault of “The Jews”, what pray-tell do you suggest be done about it?

      Please tell me how it should be approached any differently than say if “everything” is the fault of the Catholics, Muslims, Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Liberals, Progressives or Barry the Cherry.

      The problem with bigotry Jerk, is that you are focused on the wrong thing and fail to erradicate the evil. So that in the end you are right back where you started and simply find yourself moving on to another group to blame, having solved nothing.

      It is the ideology/philosophy, not the ethnicity, religion or skin color of the person that is the enemy. IF you want to do something effective about the spread of Communism you need to broaden your horizons.

      Report this comment

      AxelPhantom  
    • Micmac
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:09pm

      @ the jerk
      Rewriting history? Study Austria at this time and maybe you’ll learn something. See comment above.

      Report this comment

      Micmac  
    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:14pm

      Here’s a Hint Jerk: Three of those cannot be changed (Blacks, Asians, Hispanics) they are what they are and will always be so it is pointless to pursue a crusade to identify that as the problem unless your only goal is to b^tch about it and stir up trouble.

      The others can be changed because they are an ideology and thus a personal choice. If you find what they believe troubling, go about changing their minds in a constructive manner, but at least be smart enough to know what can be changed and what cannot.

      Report this comment

      AxelPhantom  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:26pm

      AxelPhantom, exposure. Highlight the truth. Don’t hide it. Trust people to make informed decisions based on the truth, the whole truth. As it is, people are shocked at the facts that I present. They see bigotry because they’ve lived in that uninformed ignorance for so long a time. They strike out at me, because I am the messenger.

      I didn’t like where our culture was heading. For over twenty years, I looked for the cause. That search has led me to a place, and places, that were in the historical shadows.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • barber2
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:30pm

      JERK: Saying Marx was Jewish is like saying Hitler was Catholic: they came from those family backgrounds , but, obviously were not ” practicing” the tenets of those faiths. Many of our atheist Trolls here probably had the some religious exposure but turned away from it. Marx, like many of our Far Left Democrats, replaced the belief in a spiritual God with the belief in a materialistic Big Brother government who was supposed to ” redistribute” material needs to each . Big Brother does not believe in the after -life. What you see here is what you get. Materialism is all. Your rights come from the government, not from God. What Brother” gives, ” Brother can take away. You are just a clog in the wheel.

      Report this comment

      barber2  
    • AxelPhantom
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:13pm

      So according to your theory, the cause of what is wrong in this world is something that is not the choice of the individual but what they were born as (skin color, ethnicity)?

      That is messed up and that is what I am telling you, IF you want to change something for the better then you do not target the un-changeable aspects.

      I too have studied this stuff (for a decade longer than you have) and have reached a different conclusion, additionally I have thebenefit of the personal testimony from my relatives who were there before the start of the Russian Revolution, through the invasion of Poland by Hitler, the invasion of Ukraine by Stalin and their escape first to Italy, then at the end of the war to Germany and finally the United States. Despite not being Jewish, my grandmother even did a short stint in Auschwitz, there is a hell of a lot of things that your books won’t tell you.

      Targeting a group based on an inmovable reality is an exercise that leads to no solution only to more divisiveness, hate and death. That is the only fruit your crusade will bear.

      Report this comment

      AxelPhantom  
    • jnfomo
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 2:15pm

      @ thejerk

      Your quote, “Another untold fact of history is that there was a world depression when Hitler took office, and his nation was at the bottom of that depression. Germans needed wheelbarrows full of money to by one loaf of bread. Once Hitler removed the Jews from power, well before his heinous Holocaust, Germany climbed to the top of the economic ladder. In 5 years Germany went from the bottom to the top in finance, education, and the arts.”

      If you had family in Germany during that time period or had access to accurate history, you would know that the German people were STARVING and OPPRESSED and BROKEN.

      Report this comment

      jnfomo  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:07pm

      Barber2, but saying that Hess, Marx, Rosenberg’s, Hollywood Ten, founders and funders of the NAACP, Alinsky, Soros, Schiff, Warburg, Piven, Stern, Sunstein, Bloom, Berwick, Emanuel, Axelrod, Klain, Bernanke, Greenspan, Volcker, Berstein, Plouffe, Summers, Orszag, Lew, Zeints, Perle, Feith, Wurmser, Wolfowitz, Libby, Ellsberg, Ginsburg, Breyer, Kagan, Zelikow… are all Jews, makes it a pattern.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 3:15pm

      AxelPhantom: “So according to your theory, the cause of what is wrong in this world is something that is not the choice of the individual but what they were born as (skin color, ethnicity)?”

      Good god, does anyone think anymore? No, it’s not the individual. It’s the culture. Michael Savage grew up in the typical, liberal, left wing, communism/international socialism, Jewish tradition. As an individual, he later changed, but the prevalent Jewish culture has not. There are other examples, but that’s the gist.

      This list speaks volumes to my point. They are all Jewish. They all are kibbutz-ism, socialism, commune-ism, believers. It’s the Jewish tradition. You explain the result any other way.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:07pm

      @Jerk
      And exactly what is this “Jewish culture” that all Jews are apart of? Not all Jews are communists. In fact, not all Jews are even Democrats by a long shot. The fact is Jerk, the only common culture Jews ever had was their religion of Judaism. I’m currently reading a book by Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz in which he attempts to address the question of who the Jews are and what does it mean to be Jewish. In regards to to whether the Jews can be considered a nation, he finds that as the Jews don’t reside in a single location, don’t possess a common language spoken by all Jews, and in regards to culture, found that “Jews dwelling in different countries were as different as their cultural environment. A general Jewish culture was restricted only to the realm of religion”. The only Jewish politician I know of who was religious to any degree was Lieberman, who is strangely absent from your list. Moreover, he is clearly no party loyalist and even lost the primary. If you think he is someone who would be in lock step with DWS you’d be dead wrong.

      Report this comment

      tzion  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:22pm

      JNFOMO: “If you had family in Germany during that time period or had access to accurate history, you would know that the German people were STARVING and OPPRESSED and BROKEN.”

      Thanks. You solidify my point even further. He got rid of the Jewish influence and walla, within 5 years Germany went from the bottom to became a world leader in finance, education, and the arts. It was no accident that they sponsored the 1936 Olympic Games.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:33pm

      Tzion: “And exactly what is this “Jewish culture” that all Jews are apart of?”

      You were raised Jewish, I assume. That being the case, I know, that you know, exactly what I mean by the Jewish, liberal, progressive, socialist, once called communist, culture. And, though it is true that not all Jews are Democrat or liberal, explain this overwhelming fact not supporting your claim :

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • The_Jerk
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 4:38pm

      Tzion, when you’re done, read a little about Theodor Herzl and his ideas about the Jewish nation. He disagrees. When you’re done, read Al Einstein’s book, “Ideas and Opinions.” He doesn’t agree with the good rabbi either. As you well know, there are many books written supporting the idea of the Jewish race and the Jewish nation, pre-Israel.

      Report this comment

      The_Jerk  
    • Fubared
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:11pm

      Jihad jerk, not looking like to many want to resurrect the reich. But way to ply your trade. Are you enlightened on any topic other than Jews and being a Muslim apologist? Anything?

      Report this comment

      Fubared  
    • tzion
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 5:17pm

      @Jerk
      Actually Jerk, I was raised in a very Jewish home where I was taught the meaning of hard work, the value of honesty, and other very conservative values. In other words, I, being raised in a quite Jewish culture, know absolutely nothing of this supposed Jewish culture of communism. I went to Jewish private schools all the up until I left for college and I can assure you there is nothing inherent to Jews or Judaism that is communist in nature. And as I have already explained, the only common culture Jews have is Judaism, which most if not all of those politicians have rejected.

      In fact, I find it ironic that you use the Kibbutz as an example of Jewish communist culture when the Kibbutz was practically invented by Labor Zionists, the socialist branch of Zionism. It completely contrasts the culture of Jews living in the ancient ghettos or shtetls of Europe, where everyone actually owned their own house, wealth wasn’t equal by any means.

      In summary, you have mistaken the culture of socialism that many Jews have adopted for something that emanated from Judaism. The truth however is that it was only by rejecting their native culture were they able to embrace communism. It has become a substitute for the true Jewish culture which too many have abandoned.

      Report this comment

      tzion  
    • Yakov-Yurovsky
      Posted on January 28, 2013 at 3:42pm

      @BARBER2,

      “JERK: Saying Marx was Jewish is like saying Hitler was Catholic:”

      I totally agree with that statement but my question is, would Karl Marx have the right to return to Israel if he was alive today?

      Report this comment

      Yakov-Yurovsky  
  • XPat
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:15pm

    What do you expect from a politician? Too bad we have a president that’s cut from same cloth.

    Report this comment

    XPat  
  • rickroland
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:09pm

    And he wants to get back into politics? HAHAHAHA!

    Report this comment

    rickroland  
  • UNALIEN
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:07pm

    Can’t wait for the Marxist trolls to defend Berlusconi…

    Fascism comes from Statism aka Progressivism

    Report this comment

    UNALIEN  
  • progressiveslayer
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:03pm

    Knowing Berluscon’s history he meant to say Mussolini would’ve done a better job if all the Jews were exterminated.

    Report this comment

    progressiveslayer  
  • Fubared
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:02pm

    Won’t see Jihad Jerk, SillySally, or MorsiEngineer69 on this story…in 3, 2, …

    Report this comment

    Fubared  
  • Tigress1
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 11:59am

    Hitler was probably a great family man too! A real nice guy. He just looked at things a little differently. No biggie.

    Report this comment

    Tigress1  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:08pm

      TIGRESS1, Of course Hitler would have been a great family man if only had the time. Being an adamant none smoker who refused to allow anybody to smoke near him, and having spent close to nine years in Germany that is saying a lot. So, he would not have allowed anybody to smoke in the presence of his children had he had any. The left wing loons would certainly have praised him for that, but only if he allowed smoking dope. He was also vegan. PETA would have certainly praised him as well.
      Sarcasm off.

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
    • Verceofreason
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:59pm

      Just think, if Schicklegruber was a better artist he wouldn’t have changed careers.

      Report this comment

      Verceofreason  
  • gyro
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 11:59am

    trains ran on time ?
    quote
    In 1938, before the outbreak of World War II, Mussolini’s regime passed the so-called `’racial laws,” barring Jews from Italy’s universities and many professions, among other bans. When Germany’s Nazi regime occupied Italy during the war, thousands from the tiny Italian Jewish community were deported to death camps
    quote rewriten or usa today
    In 2015, before the outbreak of World War IIl, obama’sregime passed the so-called `’redistrabution laws,” barring conservatives from USA’s universities and many professions, among other bans. When obamas regime occupied the world with drones during the war, thousands from conservative communitys in texas were deported to california reducation camps
    quote

    Report this comment

    gyro  
    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:05pm

      Um, do you know exactly what it means to “quote” something, and how to do so?

      Report this comment

      Lloyd Drako  
    • gyro
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:13pm

      school system failed me ?

      Report this comment

      gyro  
    • Fubared
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:21pm

      Gyro
      I needed a chuckle thanks. I feel so low and base when Lloyd the dragon is perusing our posts.

      Report this comment

      Fubared  
  • RJJinGadsden
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 11:57am

    LOL, Berlusconi just refuses to put his shovel down and stop digging.

    Report this comment

    RJJinGadsden  
    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:05pm

      Good thing it was Berlusconi, whom a lot of people regard as a clown, who said it. Probably a lot of Italians think it.

      Report this comment

      Lloyd Drako  
    • progressiveslayer
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:11pm

      In his case the shovel should be used to bury him and all other fascists like him.

      Report this comment

      progressiveslayer  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:13pm

      LLOYD DRAKO, I’ve visited Italy, but my last time was back in the very early ’90s. Knowing of their massive multiple political parties it is hard to say what any of them will actually come up with. But, by all means, and since you know more than all of the rest of us here, please feel free to elaborate on your quirky statement.
      Oh yeah, I see that you are stepping in the shoes of HORSES_ASS, and recently SUPAH_PATRIOT as the grammar and punctuation police. Yep, you are certainly more ELITE than the rest of us are capable.
      Another sarcasm off.

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:18pm

      PROGRESSIVESLAYER, Yeah, Berlusconi started digging the grave for his political career long ago, he may as well just use if literally as well.

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
    • Lloyd Drako
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:42pm

      RJJinGadsden: I’ve never been in Italy. I don’t claim any special expertise there. However, multiple political parties, widespread corruption, regional divisiveness and economic difficulties seem to be pronounced in today’s Italy, just as they were in the 1920s when Mussolini came to power. That’s why I think it’s probable that many Italians don’t condemn him entirely. If I’m reading Berlusconi right, he admires Mussolini “despite” the way he fell in with Nazi anti-Semitism, once he had become the caboose on Hitler’s train.

      Report this comment

      Lloyd Drako  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:27pm

      LLOYD DRAKO, Having been stationed in Germany for close to nine years, I’ve driven there a good number of times. Like you, I am certainly no expert in their politics, but have been in touch with some of it. I was mostly there through the ’80s though, and recall how seriously some took their politics there when they elected a female porn star from Czechoslovakia to the Parliament. Considering that much of Europe was paying more attention to Chernobyl, attention was diverted. I got a good laugh out of it though.
      But, it does seem that as predicted above, at least one liberal here will stand up to defend Berlusconi and his statement. I can only imagine how your rapid reaction would have set your keyboard aflame had….say….Mitt Romney had said something like “At least Hitler made the trains run on time.” There would be a media sh/tstorm and meltdown. I can just see Martin Bashir’s head….it would look like that guy in “Screamers.”

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
    • RJJinGadsden
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 1:42pm

      My apologies to Michael Ironside and cast, I meant a particular scene in the movie “Scanners.”
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA

      Report this comment

      RJJinGadsden  
  • civilwarcometh
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 11:54am

    I swear i’m living in the twilight zone. WTF is going on anymore.

    Report this comment

    civilwarcometh  
    • gyro
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:00pm

      you will soon wish you were in the twilight zone !!!

      Report this comment

      gyro  
    • UNALIEN
      Posted on January 27, 2013 at 12:37pm

      YES,,

      we have been in an ideological war for decades,, collectivism vs individualism

      Cultural Marxism is consuming society like a cancer by subverting individual critical thought.. a brainwashing through indoctrination from the elitist centralized authority..

      historically these things don’t end well..

      if it feels like the twilight zone, congrats you are awake, self aware and thinking…

      Report this comment

      UNALIEN  
  • CatB
    Posted on January 27, 2013 at 11:49am

    Bolder and bolder .. they just keep showing who they really are .. kind of like our “leaders” and of course MSM … listen up people.

    Report this comment

    CatB  

Sign In To Post Comments! Sign In